/twg/ - Total War General

Sir_Gallonhead
Sir_Gallonhead

True King of Eight Peaks

Thrones of Britannia stuff:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Fu0UPnk4kc [Embed]
https://www.totalwar.com/blog/thrones-britannia-faq
http://store.steampowered.com/app/712100/Total_War_Saga_Thrones_of_Britannia/

Mortal Empires hotfix patch notes:
https://www.totalwar.com/blog/mortal-empires-hotfix-patch-notes

Empire Divided info:
https://www.totalwar.com/blog/empire-divided-power-politics-faq
http://store.steampowered.com/app/694880/Total_War_ROME_II__Empire_Divided/

How the Combined Map works
https://www.totalwar.com/blog/mortal-empires
https://www.totalwar.com/blog/mortal-empires-with-ian-roxburgh

FAQs and General Info
https://pastebin.com/uGj4AUHR
https://pastebin.com/gZ1T9VCN
http://www.twcenter.net/forums/forumdisplay.php?2191-Total-War-WARHAMMER-Modifications
http://www.twcenter.net/forums/forumdisplay.php?1553-Total-War-Warhammer-II-Modifications

History information:
https://www.totalwar.com/blog/what-the-teams-are-working-on-07-06-17
Summary:
Next big history game is a setting they've never done before. Will feature "important character relations that occur between the major personalities in the game."

Previous /vg/thread/195605654#p195605654

All urls found in this thread:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Fu0UPnk4kc
https://www.totalwar.com/blog/thrones-britannia-faq
http://store.steampowered.com/app/712100/Total_War_Saga_Thrones_of_Britannia/
https://www.totalwar.com/blog/mortal-empires-hotfix-patch-notes
https://www.totalwar.com/blog/empire-divided-power-politics-faq
http://store.steampowered.com/app/694880/Total_War_ROME_II__Empire_Divided/
https://www.totalwar.com/blog/mortal-empires
https://www.totalwar.com/blog/mortal-empires-with-ian-roxburgh
https://pastebin.com/uGj4AUHR
https://pastebin.com/gZ1T9VCN
http://www.twcenter.net/forums/forumdisplay.php?2191-Total-War-WARHAMMER-Modifications
http://www.twcenter.net/forums/forumdisplay.php?1553-Total-War-Warhammer-II-Modifications
https://www.totalwar.com/blog/what-the-teams-are-working-on-07-06-17
http://www.twcenter.net/forums/showthread.php?754084-A-Rebranding-of-Asia-Empires-now-called-17th-Century-Revolution
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Great_Divergence
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p9SIVzjZhlk
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_the_Golden_Spurs
https://youtu.be/n730FWycrTY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XoZw_xS-5kA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7Jm_eUQSYAk
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ec0XKhAHR5I
https://www.totalwar.com/blog/thrones-of-britannia-878-ad
https://twitter.com/totalwar/status/768104126320345089
w8t4u
w8t4u

Fantasies babies BTFO

massdebater
massdebater

first for FANTASY

TalkBomber
TalkBomber

click on Phoenix Guard
no sound
WTF CA?!

Spazyfool
Spazyfool

@massdebater

Haha fantasybum destroyed

happy_sad
happy_sad

Why is this allowed

Methshot
Methshot

*blocks ur path*

Flameblow
Flameblow

Greasus coming in comfortably late!

TalkBomber
TalkBomber

5th for Cunt the Great, true king of Britannia.

JunkTop
JunkTop

@massdebater
LOSING DECISIVELY

Nojokur
Nojokur

They better fucking have town battles, if they don't have town battles in a history game then that's it the devs are dead to me.

Dreamworx
Dreamworx

SPEARMANII REPORTING FOR DUTY!1

massdebater
massdebater

"only divine intervention, or a military genius could bring us back from this disgrace blabla
I thought I'd lose with this roster vs. Feudal Foot Knights and Seargents but as it turns out, Byzantine bodyguards are one hell of a drug.

Techpill
Techpill

@JunkTop
Fantasy, not History.

Emberfire
Emberfire

Halts your progress

Crazy_Nice
Crazy_Nice

YOU SEEK A PACT WITH NORSCAN TRIBES?

happy_sad
happy_sad

@Dreamworx
LOUIE LOUIE!

Playboyize
Playboyize

*steals your cattle*

PackManBrainlure
PackManBrainlure

Memes aside I kinda want to play that SAGA title.

Flameblow
Flameblow

*unintelligible potato*

CouchChiller
CouchChiller

small green humans with swords
small green humans with spears
small green humans with bows
green humans with swords
green humans with bows
green humans that ride pigs
bigger green humans with swords
bigger green humans that ride pigs
african green humans with axes

WOW SO MUCH VARIETY

DeathDog
DeathDog

gonna get to destroy Wessex with Sigurd Snake-in-the-Eye and Throgg the Troll King
can't fucking wait bros

Spazyfool
Spazyfool

Can someone give me a rundown on Darren and links to his stream? He sounds like a soy boy

happy_sad
happy_sad

@Crazy_Nice
Dawi from another hold arrives!

Gigastrength
Gigastrength

@Spazyfool
Darren making posts about himself here all the time to stay relevant

farquit
farquit

Best mods for Empire, Attila & Napoleon?

whereismyname
whereismyname

By Sigmars balls, we're fucked!

Lord_Tryzalot
Lord_Tryzalot

@farquit
the virgin varg vs the chad beige

BinaryMan
BinaryMan

@whereismyname
What turn?

Flameblow
Flameblow

@whereismyname
All mods are cheats.

askme
askme

@massdebater
fantasyfags can't appreciate a nice HEROIC VICTORY made from spearmen and ultraheavy cavalry

Spazyfool
Spazyfool

@Flameblow
Even difficulty ones?

farquit
farquit

hate mazamudi, lads

happy_sad
happy_sad

@farquit
Napoleon
LME or NTW3

Methnerd
Methnerd

@Spazyfool
Yes, all mods upset the design balance of the game in some way. Achievements should be disabled with mods.

TreeEater
TreeEater

@BinaryMan
Turn 80 something I believe
@Flameblow
Meh, wanted stronger Chaos and I got it. As well as stronger Orcs and stronger Beastmen. Orcs and Beast stacks randomly spawn in groups of 10 every couple of turns or so. This is the first attack by chaos. Archon isnt even here yet.

girlDog
girlDog

@Methnerd
jesus christ how miserable is your life

AwesomeTucker
AwesomeTucker

wanted stronger chaos
took lightning strike

Raving_Cute
Raving_Cute

@TreeEater
@girlDog
Stronger Chaos Invasion most likely makes all other factions like you more, since the balance of power is off, making them easier to ally with and making the game easier overall. Pretty much cheating.

Inmate
Inmate

@Raving_Cute
Also you get a bunch of exp and money from killing more armies.

Methnerd
Methnerd

@TreeEater
Do Dwarves still easily win the Badlands Bowl?

Sharpcharm
Sharpcharm

J U S T

Snarelure
Snarelure

The Saga doesn't focus on Based Brain Ború
D R O P P E D

eGremlin
eGremlin

@Raving_Cute
@Inmate
What about increased upkeep for players units?

Fried_Sushi
Fried_Sushi

/vg/thread/195605654#p195631682
Barbarian Invasion for Rome 1 is basically Attila but they made Attila anyway

Given that TWW3 will launch in 2019 and Thrones of Britain in 2018 and the next history game in 2020 or 2021 then Alexander Total War would come out in like 2023 at the earliest, which would be like 17 years after the Alexander expansion for Rome Total War

girlDog
girlDog

@eGremlin
Having more limited resources keeps you focused to the end game.

Spazyfool
Spazyfool

wat do if playing as empire and bretonnia gets marienburg before i do and i dont want to fight leonbro

Fried_Sushi
Fried_Sushi

@eGremlin
Higher difficulties do this, and those are specifically designed by the developers as an intended part of the gameplay experience.

Need_TLC
Need_TLC

@CouchChiller
DEPTH
put spears in a line
put longbows/pavise crossbowmen behind
watch enemy die from arrows/bolts
that's what I did in medieval 1, and medieval 2 and warhamer 2
for rome 1 all I did was
put pikeman in a line
watch AI that can't flank at all die at pointy end

how do history games have more in depth again?
oh, you're talking about campaign?
before warscape
build every building on every province
get 10000 gold every turn by turn 30

afer warscape
copypaste one kind of build for every province
get 10000 per turn by turn 50

PurpleCharger
PurpleCharger

How is this allowed?
Why hasn't CA sued the shit out of them?

5mileys
5mileys

god tier
welves, delves, helves
meh tier
everything else not described below
shit tier
chaos
absolutely disgusting tier
reddit rats

Bidwell
Bidwell

@Need_TLC
implying anything has changed in warhammer

kizzmybutt
kizzmybutt

@Raving_Cute
what about the fucking horde destroying you

PurpleCharger
PurpleCharger

@Sharpcharm
Is this Darren's current grill? She's not bad at all, how can this be?

Booteefool
Booteefool

Wungo smash puny fantasy nerds

Harmless_Venom
Harmless_Venom

@PurpleCharger
step up nigga

Fuzzy_Logic
Fuzzy_Logic

Since every TW game becomes mainly siege battles by mid-game, which TW has the best sieges?

Bidwell
Bidwell

@Bidwell
implying that's what I implied
I literally said I use the same tactics from med 1 and 2 in warhammer 2
it's all the same shit
saying "history games have more depth" is laughable. Nothing changed. AI is just as retarded, campaigns are just as easy. Only REAL difference is fantasy has flying units.

implying magic isn't just artillery and buffs

ZeroReborn
ZeroReborn

@CouchChiller

muh spearmanii vs spearmanii
muh barbar faction #934503
muh build the same buildings in every province

WOW SO MUCH VARIETY

no sweetie, slapping some beards on pre-existing barbar models doesn't constitute a new faction.

hairygrape
hairygrape

@Fuzzy_Logic
shogun2

StrangeWizard
StrangeWizard

@Bidwell
saying "history games have more depth"
well i didnt say that either
@ZeroReborn
buh buh why is this game about history accurate where are da elfs DDD:

WebTool
WebTool

@Need_TLC

The reason that spear/bow line does not work in Warhammer is because of stats or the absence of archers from a roster. So clearly the simple solution is to do some of the warhammer stat choices for a history game and follow a bit more gameyness over historicity.

So for instance stat Sassanids so they are Bretonnian style. Knights who can literally stay submerged in melee no problem and behave like line infantry. But also have dogshit of dogshit spearmen who can't hold the line for more than five seconds. Have Marcomanni be like orcs with high charge and damage but low morale and abysmal armor. Have Romans be Empire-esque where you can't win if you dont have a balanced army. Have Huns be horsefucker but also maybe an element of the Vampire counts - severe morale shock if the leader is killed given the Huns are fielding a confederacy.

@Bidwell
Flying units and magic. You could also argue monstrous infantry and monstrous beasts. Elephants come close to the latter but there's nothing really to fill the role of the former.

Shitposting aside there's charmes and values of Warhammer and of Historical.

farquit
farquit

Why can't people just like both History and Fantasy?

Skullbone
Skullbone

@StrangeWizard

historical titles
accurate

hahahahahahah oh boy you really fell for that meme didn't you?

There was NO point in history where barbarians put themselves into units based on what weapon they have. There were no barbarian units of ALL swords or ALL spears. I understand CA is too incompetent to add units that can use multiple types of melee weapons at once but plz don't say that their games are anywhere near "accurate"

Firespawn
Firespawn

Tomb Kings still not announced

whereismyname
whereismyname

@farquit
autism simply will not allow it

viagrandad
viagrandad

@WebTool
Shitposting aside there's charmes and values of Warhammer and of Historical.
The nerve of some people.

likme
likme

@farquit
I do, I just want to start flame wars

Sharpcharm
Sharpcharm

offer trade agreement to someone
diplomacy menu says around 900 gold profit
accept
look at trade income from faction i just got the agreement from
2500 gold
total income went up by 1000

wut da zog is happening here

SniperWish
SniperWish

someone tell me why i should use kroxigars instead of more saurus or cold ones

Bidwell
Bidwell

@WebTool
Shitposting aside
NO
FUCK YOU

Emberfire
Emberfire

@PurpleCharger
CA actively help them by giving them early releases.

hairygrape
hairygrape

@SniperWish
THEY'RE CUTE
CUTE

viagrandad
viagrandad

@Sharpcharm
Your resources get distributed around all the factions you're trading with. Your new trade partner is buying up stuff you were selling elsewhere before.

Emberfire
Emberfire

darren thinks attila battles are buggier than r2 battles
Thank god this faggot is going to be forced back into his parent's basement soon

whereismyname
whereismyname

@SniperWish
They go nom nom

VisualMaster
VisualMaster

@viagrandad
o

kizzmybutt
kizzmybutt

@SniperWish
You shouldn't use kroxigars
They underperform

JunkTop
JunkTop

@WebTool

You can do this while still being historical.

Romans remain as they are for the babbies who can't handle strategy, but suffer from shit missiles, subpar melee cav, and utter shit ranged cav.

Persians get insane shock cav, good ranged cav, good archers, but can't form a good melee line. You have to win the battle fast, or else your infantry and archers are dead.

Barbars have an elite core that can hold a shieldwall to rival Romans, but most are mobilized farmers with decent melee stats, good charge, but shit armor.

Horsefuckers are like the Persians but even more dependent on cav. Cataphracts should be rarer but light horsemen should be a hell of a lot cheaper, as cheap as infantry for other factions.

girlDog
girlDog

@whereismyname
Is this Dryrain's or CA's texture?

CouchChiller
CouchChiller

@girlDog
CA

Emberburn
Emberburn

@whereismyname

pomf~

PurpleCharger
PurpleCharger

tiranoc bullies the stuffing out of malekith
prepare to invade and take all his shit
halfwit high elves bordering skaeling start losing whole provinces
have to postpone bullying dark elves to save these idiots
malekith starts growing in strength significantly and taking territory back while I'm occupied
The absolutely state of the Asur.

CouchChiller
CouchChiller

I, the first Temujin poster, will post the rightful ruler of all the world, the bedder of a thousand women and the conquerer of all before him until we get a proper Mongol total war.

Evil_kitten
Evil_kitten

@PurpleCharger
this is his army comp

w8t4u
w8t4u

I can't decide whether Darren is a cuck for quitting his well-paying industry job just to bitch about his employer or an alpha for casually quitting his dream job on the false assumption he had massive, overwhelming internet charisma. Which is it?

Methshot
Methshot

@CouchChiller
Will you accept a China: Total War as tribute?

Spamalot
Spamalot

@w8t4u
I think he was fired to be honest

haveahappyday
haveahappyday

@PurpleCharger

Don't be a faggot, if we stop people who make actually good stuff from earning money then the only people earning money will be sluts flashing their creamy roasties

askme
askme

@Spamalot
Darren tried to save us from Total War: Vikings and they did the blood eagle on him

TechHater
TechHater

See fantasy shitposting about muh variety
Ask Warhammer buddy about the rosters
Its just like the historical games with the occasional monster/beast in the non-human factions.
I'm laffin brehs
@Spazyfool
@Sharpcharm
@Emberfire
@w8t4u
Fuck off Darren

Supergrass
Supergrass

@Evil_kitten
That doesn't look like my army comp.

Crazy_Nice
Crazy_Nice

@w8t4u

Who is darren and why was darren fired?

Harmless_Venom
Harmless_Venom

@TechHater
Its just like the historical games with the occasional monster/beast in the non-human factions.
That's true of like the Empire and that's it.

likme
likme

@Spamalot
It doesn't make any sense for CA to lie then though and say he did quit, when they fire him and he immediately bad talks them.

ZeroReborn
ZeroReborn

I found out Darren is a year younger than me. I assumed he was older since he used to have a job but I guess not. Now we can both be unemployed Though I can probably make more than him each week doing online and seasonal work lel

@Harmless_Venom
redditors whine that SFO is a nazi
he still makes 25,000 a year just tweaking stats and shit in his mod

Need_TLC
Need_TLC

I think we should all start a campaign to bring back darren

TalkBomber
TalkBomber

@Need_TLC
who on earth would we play as to achieve that?

iluvmen
iluvmen

@Need_TLC
I only endorse people with hair, sorry Darren.

Methshot
Methshot

god damn Darren is a such a fucking butthurt

BinaryMan
BinaryMan

@ZeroReborn
The real problem with spearmanii is that most TW historical games take place in roughly similar eras like the ancient era to the medieval era, even TOB is like that.

I want some fucking Gilgamesh to Nebuchadnezzer instead. Or if that's too much then maybe just the Neo-Assyrian empire to the rise of Cyrus.

SniperGod
SniperGod

warming up with parthia man armored horse archers are a funny unit i just imagine all the light skirmisher projectiles plinking off the general

WebTool
WebTool

@ZeroReborn
redditors whine that SFO is a nazi
Huh?

Dreamworx
Dreamworx

Histfags:
Why would I want to play as interesting, varied races? Give me 10 different variations of white guys wearing tunics

Methshot
Methshot

13 cannons, THIRTEEN cannons, only plinked 1/4th of this things health. This is one of the most expensive units in the Skaven army and they suck at their job.

Ignoramus
Ignoramus

We should all go to darren's patreon and pledge at least $20 a month to show solidarity with his cause. Too many of us history homosexuals have been penetrated over by Creative Assembly™.

BinaryMan
BinaryMan

all this fantasy vs history posting in this thread

why...why cant we both enjoy total war as a serie regardless of settings ?

FastChef
FastChef

@Methshot
How many shots actually hit though

hairygrape
hairygrape

@BinaryMan

The fantasy games are shit and because CA are such faggots you aren't allowed to mod it into LOTR even though it's literally just stolen from LOTR.

Fried_Sushi
Fried_Sushi

@Ignoramus
My life is defined by my thrift- as in I don't donate to fucking retards.

Spamalot
Spamalot

@WebTool
watched/subbed to unironic neonazi propoganda on the same yt account he promoted the mod with - when called out he did a bit of pr-judo by claiming he was a former muslim (kevin spacey take note). Now he lets his "community manager" and the other autist behind the mod do all the talking

Emberburn
Emberburn

@Methshot
If you slow the battle speed down you can watch the projectiles, usually the AI moves its units out of the way.

DeathDog
DeathDog

Pretentious_platitude33: Can your shills stop spamming on /twg/ please? Thanks

REEEEEEEEEEE

5mileys
5mileys

@FastChef
More than half, 3 volleys before the dinos hit the lines. One routed, but two are more than capable of doing major damage. 13 units of these canons can't focus down one carnosaur unit.

This is a ridiculous composition, but just for testing purposes, why would you ever waste a slot ONE cannon when you know it won't do any noticeable damage compared to THIRTEEN.

TreeEater
TreeEater

@massdebater
Those bodyguards are so fucking stupid, I had a FULL stack of horse archers spend their entire ammo on one unit of bodyguard, had to cycle charge with two of mine, after he was exhausted, and he still nearly killed both.

Skullbone
Skullbone

Can you get your shills to stop spamming on /twg/? Thanks.

Evilember
Evilember

@Spamalot
Kevin spacey learned that shit from him.
It was literally, I have a black friend

farquit
farquit

grace reads Veeky Forums confirmed by darren

AAAAAAHAHHHHHHHH

Techpill
Techpill

@Spamalot
Kek. I think the mod is alright.

VisualMaster
VisualMaster

Darren wants to join us but he can't navigate Veeky Forums
"I just like reddit though cuz it's kinda easy
Grace used to link Darren to stuff from Veeky Forums

How does it feel knowing Grace might have actually responded to one of your posts?

Bidwell
Bidwell

@farquit
Tusk mod for Attila

Poker_Star
Poker_Star

@Emberburn
This makes the unit worse for the cost.

Evilember
Evilember

@BinaryMan
Honestly, I would love to be able to live in harmony. But over the last little while historical players here have been getting more and more cancerous. If they want to piss on my shitposting parade, I'll piss right back. I'll piss and piss until this whole goddamned board ain't nothing but piss
and then I'll piss some more

Spamalot
Spamalot

holy shit Grace read I want to impregnate her

5mileys
5mileys

@massdebater
Byzantine Bodyguards are pretty imba early game.

StonedTime
StonedTime

@VisualMaster
Omg a woman may have anonymously talked to me XDXDXD

Methshot
Methshot

@StonedTime

Not a woman, a MEME.

MPmaster
MPmaster

@Methshot
How is Grace a meme? Though its pretty funny to know she probably checks here once and awhile.

cum2soon
cum2soon

@likme
might have been a 'could tell which way the wind was blowing' situation

whereismyname
whereismyname

@5mileys
In a real battle there'd be units keeping the dino busy and stationary while your cannon shot it. They're good.

Snarelure
Snarelure

@TreeEater
Yeah you need AP, like javelins, crossbows or maces.

@5mileys
I mean this is my first half-way successful attempt at a late era campaign but I suppose the early 13th century is pretty early for a game that goes all the way to the late 16th. How do people keep playing until then? What even is left to conquer?

eGremlin
eGremlin

post your punished darren pics so when darren arrives he knows our opinion of him

grace is the one behind his vs fantasy posting
grace pretends to be anons and is her own waifu

Snarelure
Snarelure

@5mileys
You use globadiers or poison slingers against big monsters. Warp-lightning Cannons are for armored infantry.

TalkBomber
TalkBomber

@Need_TLC
I would like if CA rehired Darren to be an unfortunate footsoldier in a live-action promo they did for each new release.

So instead of like CGI photo stills with angry dwarfs cosplaying Vikings you would get Darren in cosplay Viking armor and he'd say something mildly amusing before getting his head chopped off or splattered by a big catapult or something. I think it'd be a top laff.

Methshot
Methshot

@hairygrape
Warhammer
only inspired by LOTR
not Conan and Moorcock
stop being a twat

BinaryMan
BinaryMan

Where is all this Darrenposting coming from I thought the stream ended an hour ago

Ignoramus
Ignoramus

Everyone in chat seems to like my ideas
Unfortunately no one else does

Crazy_Nice
Crazy_Nice

Lustria bowl is boring
Absolutely nothing in Southlands
Dwarven Reich
Empire only in Altdorf
Savage Orks wiping out Empire Provinces
Bretonnia won't kill yellow vamps

Mortal Empires is fucking shit

Soft_member
Soft_member

@Bidwell
hope it's good thanks bb xx

SomethingNew
SomethingNew

@VisualMaster
She posted about how shit her customer interaction job when I was talking about how she wanted to sterilize all men and step on their balls, so I like to think I contributed to that.

GoogleCat
GoogleCat

Hello Darren viewers have a quality old /twg/ meme.

Booteefool
Booteefool

@eGremlin
there aren't actually any real anons here
it's all just grace posting back and forth to herself

Carnalpleasure
Carnalpleasure

@eGremlin
The accepted opinion on Darren is that he's an idiot.

Snarelure
Snarelure

@Methshot

Elves living in a magical forest that they protect
Orcs living in a wasteland

Come on kiddo

Lunatick
Lunatick

@Spamalot
Come again?

King_Martha
King_Martha

@Spamalot
based

Emberburn
Emberburn

grace was the furryposter
it all makes sense now

Evilember
Evilember

@Crazy_Nice
You forgot to mention wood elves conquering brettonia and ai colonising fucking anywhere without regard.

Lunatick
Lunatick

@Snarelure
Elves living in a magical forest that they protect

Except for the 95% of elves who aren't.

Orcs living in a wasteland

Except for the 75% of Orcs who aren't.

massdebater
massdebater

@Snarelure
Oh you're playing late? It's been a while since I played Med 2, but if I remember right, their bodyguards are basically the same in late and early, so in the early campaign they're impossibly good. Meanwhile Europoors don't get similar bodyguards until Chivalric Knights and whatever unlock. However, even in late, general bodyguard units are pretty power. It's always a risk to use them of course.

Carnalpleasure
Carnalpleasure

Play as Thegan's Errantry
Lord is Baron Thegan
CA fucked up and made Baron his first name and Thegan his last name
Gets the title "The Legend"
Now it's just fucking "Baron the Legend"
HONOR BEFORE GLORY

viagrandad
viagrandad

@Crazy_Nice
make ur own fun user

Sharpcharm
Sharpcharm

@Snarelure
having any respect for tolkien whatsoever

Evilember
Evilember

@Lunatick
elves live in not!valinor
engage in kinslaying
declining people.
fought with dorfs in the past.
last age ended with a cataclysmic battle with elfs dorfs and men where the last dark lord was cast down.

Firespawn
Firespawn

@Snarelure
Wood Elves are the only elves
what is Elric of Melniboné
Warhammer orcs being comparable to Tolkien in any way other than being ugly violent fuckers
Try reading a book that wasn't on your high school english course sometime.

StonedTime
StonedTime

Historyfags are fucking boring because they don't even want interesting history installments. They want the same game over and over.

And I love med2.

Stark_Naked
Stark_Naked

@Carnalpleasure
so chivalrous you don't need a name to be remembered
You made the big times.

lostmypassword
lostmypassword

grace is le ebin skavenfag
of course.

Ignoramus
Ignoramus

@massdebater
Yeah Byzantine early just seems like lots of waiting for cataphracts and its a pretty easy-looking start. Late campaign is exciting so far.

Nude_Bikergirl
Nude_Bikergirl

someone ask darren what boards grace browsed

SniperWish
SniperWish

@Firespawn
Elric of Melnibone

My fucking nigga.

Lord_Tryzalot
Lord_Tryzalot

@likme
You've got to leave the man some fragment of his dignity, doubly so when he seems the type to come shoot up the office later as revenge.

massdebater
massdebater

@Evilember
Hasn't happened actually in my game yet. Fey Enchantress is memeing pretty hard though.

@viagrandad
Its fun to play as a new world faction, just wish there was better balancing

Methshot
Methshot

tfw darren actually knows exactly what /twg/ is and is just hiding his powerlevel, mentioning grace to throw us for a loop
HE'S GOT SCHEMES

TalkBomber
TalkBomber

@Sharpcharm
Go back to bed, Moorcock. You won't get another comic publishing deal.

@Evilember
elves live in not!valinor
Have you ever read the Silmarillion?
engage in kinslaying
Except the High Elf response was completely justified, unlike the Noldor chimping out over shiny rocks and boats.
declining people.
Fair enough.
fought with dorfs in the past
Dwarfs and Elves never had the same level of hate in Tolkien's works, it was exaggerated in the movies.
last age ended with a cataclysmic battle with elfs dorfs and men where the last dark lord was cast down.
When the fuck did Warhammer have "ages"? Who the fuck are you referring to? Asavar Kul?

RumChicken
RumChicken

@Carnalpleasure
Can't you change his name?

CouchChiller
CouchChiller

@StonedTime
Right? If you even mention post-industrial history they get all quiet. They pretend to be interested in "history" but all they want is sword and board and spearmanii.
Pathetic

VisualMaster
VisualMaster

@Nude_Bikergirl
Probably /an/, /x/, and /cgl/.

TechHater
TechHater

@Methshot
This is 100% true.

Booteefool
Booteefool

@SniperWish
Michael Moorcock may be a bitter old cunt, but he knows how to write.

farquit
farquit

@CouchChiller
Trying to bring the worst meem of /mbg/ into /twg/

ZeroReborn
ZeroReborn

@MPmaster
how isnt she?

Fuzzy_Logic
Fuzzy_Logic

@Methshot
What if he doesn't mention us because we keep making fun of him?

Lunatick
Lunatick

@farquit

That meme is the best part of /mbg/.

askme
askme

@Spamalot
I thought it was a bit weird that SFO let me upgrade my Reiksguard into Stormtroopers and said I would get an unlockable Panzer Brigade RoR if I exterminated all the dwarfs.

likme
likme

@RumChicken
Why would I?

Playboyize
Playboyize

@Evilember
I must have missed the Lizardmemes, Dark Elves, Chaos, Barbars, Ogres, Chorfs, Tomb Keks and advanced machinery in general last time I read Tolkien.

Stop putting LotR on a pedestal like it was the fucking invention of the Fantasy genre. Conan predates it by decades.

Emberburn
Emberburn

grace browses here and reads your waifuposting
how long til she gets gook'd?

LuckyDusty
LuckyDusty

@CouchChiller
I shit on post-industrial because I have zero faith that the total war will ever change enough to support it. Total War has never strayed past the set piece battle formula of 20-40 unit blocks fighting each other, and that absolutely retarded for anything post-industrial.

Stupidasole
Stupidasole

@farquit
OgreKingdomsNeverEver.png

Boy_vs_Girl
Boy_vs_Girl

BASED DARREN
A
S
E
D

hairygrape
hairygrape

@Booteefool
IMO He actually is terrible, but Sword and Sorcery is my guilty pleasure. So as far as that genre goes, he ain't bad.

The best is Fafhrd and The Grey Mouser.

Playboyize
Playboyize

@farquit
Worst meme
You mean the best, right?

TreeEater
TreeEater

ancient empires was never released
please kill me immidiately

Evilember
Evilember

@Evilember
Leafensraum is a feature, not a bug

Supergrass
Supergrass

@Playboyize
advanced machinery
The orcs and Mordor have this. There's also at least one dark elf in Tolkien.

I'm not the guy you're responding to and I am honestly not a huge Tolkien fan, I think his impact on fantasy is both overestimated and ultimately has largely been negative, but they were still there.

King_Martha
King_Martha

@BinaryMan
That really doesn't change much. Your armies would consist of spearmen, archers, and chariots. That's it.

TreeEater
TreeEater

I'm posting Cao Cao in honour of all the Chinaposters that will be mocked when the next historical turns out not to be China.

iluvmen
iluvmen

@lostmypassword
but then who is leo poster?

Techpill
Techpill

@LuckyDusty
All they have to do is install some sort of cover/building system and shrink the unit sizes.

That is it. We already have tanks and dragons ffs. Fuck you histfags.

Methshot
Methshot

Don't remember
Some sexual stuff
They talk about you too!
HAHAHAHAHA

Evilember
Evilember

@Supergrass
Pretty sure they don't have rat people with gatling guns though

Ignoramus
Ignoramus

@TreeEater
It's a bad feel.

Were going to release next month guys!
Never heard from again

CodeBuns
CodeBuns

@Methshot
grace falseflagging to post lewd content about herself to garner sympathy from her coworkers

Methshot
Methshot

Might as well throw Warcraft in this shitposting spree

Nojokur
Nojokur

@TreeEater
turns out not to be China
is instead all East Asia

Nude_Bikergirl
Nude_Bikergirl

off map call-in abilities like the black ark gives druchii
Empire gets great-cannon barrage, heltstorm strike etc.
dorfs get gyrobomber strike, gyrjocopter strafing run, etc.
orcs get some kinda flying gobbo strike or something, some gork n mork spells
wood elves get some assorted spell-fuckery. doubly effective inside of athel loren
bretonnia.... plague cow barrage? Fist of ze lady spell-strike
vampires.... skellington bombardment?

would this help bring the original factions up to strength?

haveahappyday
haveahappyday

@King_Martha
SOON

Snarelure
Snarelure

@Nojokur
That would be fucking lit, no lie.

Flameblow
Flameblow

@CodeBuns
grace was the one posting punished darren memes after he left CA

Nojokur
Nojokur

@Techpill
I enjoy Warhammer and fighting the Battle of the Somme over one hour would be fucking stupid. It lasted for months. Set piece battles like those displayed in Total War stopped being contained in single moments once industrialized warfare became a thing. Let's not even talk about how Total War unit sizes would be even more laughable in post-industrial warfare. Oh jeez the famed 100 days offensive! 5000 Germans (oh wait you got tanks and artillery in your full stacks, ok 3000 Germans) against 4000 Anglos. Yes the war to end all wars right here!

Harmless_Venom
Harmless_Venom

@Techpill
it's true. it really wouldn't be that difficult, lots of strategy games use modern armies. But nah, let's keep recycling the same tired formula. That's fun.

FastChef
FastChef

*blocks your path*

Will this make it in the dlc?

askme
askme

@CouchChiller
Historyfags are autists who should never be catered to ever. They will whine and shitpost in the following order

1. TW must be history or its bad
2. It's bad because it's not the exact period/setting of history I wanted
3. Well it's not Medieval 2 so it's shit

Most people don't realise how bad they are because so far they've only seen number one.

Playboyize
Playboyize

@hairygrape
The Grey Mouser
Top tier taste.

WebTool
WebTool

@Ignoramus
they said it was august 2016
anons rejoice
15 months later...

JunkTop
JunkTop

@Nojokur
I'd actually be quite okay with that.

kizzmybutt
kizzmybutt

@FastChef
Looks like alot of charlemanges there boy. Are you so rash and bold to demand that the CA art team works more then 3 afternoons to model a new faction? The SouthAfrican has dark elf booty to model.

Firespawn
Firespawn

@Nojokur
Total War shouldn't go past 1900, and even that is stretching it.

The scale of both the Civil War, Franco-Prussian, and the Taiping Rebellion are way too fucking large for the type of cames CA makes

New_Cliche
New_Cliche

@Nojokur
what would be the best time period for an East Asia TW?

Boy_vs_Girl
Boy_vs_Girl

@Nojokur
pretending like total war is actually historically accurate

5mileys
5mileys

@New_Cliche
19th Century because of Taiping

Although the Mongol conquests would be cool as well

Firespawn
Firespawn

@Spamalot
Come again user?

5mileys
5mileys

@Playboyize
conan
fantasy
ah yes. Conan defeating wizards with autism powers.
Truly the basis of fantasy

kizzmybutt
kizzmybutt

@Harmless_Venom
Why don't you go and play literally any other strategy game then

BlogWobbles
BlogWobbles

@Evilember
no skaven ratling guns
no skaven jezzail snipers

Kill me.

Booteefool
Booteefool

/twg/ I find your fantasy and historical autism funny but fantasy lit autism will genuinely trigger me so please do not go down this dark road.

WebTool
WebTool

@VisualMaster
I wonder if she read my post saying she has shit taste in the dream daddy thing

New_Cliche
New_Cliche

@kizzmybutt
just throw some armor on a shaggoth

lostmypassword
lostmypassword

@TalkBomber
Have you ever
yes.
They live in a magical fairy land which is hidden to outsiders except for reasons of conflict they have invasions occasionally.
excuses
kinslaying is kinslaying.
never had the same level of hate
except belegost chimped out due to the silmaril.
ages
by age I mean the distant part. The empire as we know it was literally made when asavar kul was defeated and the empire entered an age of prosperity just like gondor did

Deadlyinx
Deadlyinx

@Firespawn
I'm really skeptical of even going past 1870. The Franco-Prussian War was already creeping towards proto-WW1 with incredible reliance of front based fortifications and skirmish line based attacks. I just don't have the confidence in CA to think they will even make half a good game with the bare minimum amount of redesigning and engine changes they would need to do.

whereismyname
whereismyname

@Firespawn
I WANT TO THROW MY PILUM INTO HER DEFENSIVE FORMATION

Illusionz
Illusionz

@Nojokur
what is suspension of disbelief
what is gameplay mechanics over realism
what is fun

Evil_kitten
Evil_kitten

@Nojokur
The sad thing is you guys are such fucking sticklers that you try and ruin the fun of others. Who gives a fuck how long it took to these real battles. Total War is a video game.

PurpleCharger
PurpleCharger

@New_Cliche
Nice trips

best time period for an East Asia TW?

Generally the best time periods are when a major Chinese dynasty is about to get its shit kicked in. Makes for great WRE-like scenarios.

Pre-gunpowder? Song Dynasty right after it loses its northern half. I think that's around the 13th century. Mongol hordes and Jin dynasty are the major contenders.

Gunpowder and European involvement? Ming Dynasty. Not only do you have to fend off minor nations giving you shit, the Jurchens are here and you have to save poor Korea before they get fucked over by all the veterans fresh from Shogun 2's conflicts

Industrial Age and beyond Napoopoo's time? Qing Dynasty during the 2nd Opium War. As the Qing dynasty your tech is hilariously outdated and the Western powers are fucking you over with opium. It doesn't help that half your government is corrupt and the other half are too stupid to realize it after enjoying too many years of superiority and going "muh manchu..." every time they get their shit kicked in.

You can place your trust in the new modernized armies led by generals who are mos likely NOT loyal to the cause and whoever is loyal is likely militarily inept. Japan once again decides to fuck over Formosa and Korea but this time China's too weak to save either.

GoogleCat
GoogleCat

@FastChef
Give me my skelly bone giants and I will be pleased

JunkTop
JunkTop

@farquit
Where was this confirmed user?

Garbage Can Lid
Garbage Can Lid

@PurpleCharger

Song Dynasty had gunpowder. The early years of gunpowder when people were still trying to figure out what the fuck to do with it is the best part about that period of military history.

FastChef
FastChef

@FastChef
No reason to believe it won't be. They can just model over the centaur skeleton.

Supergrass
Supergrass

@lostmypassword
magical fairy land
a good chunk of Ulthuan is an untamed shithole filled with magic monsters like white lions or anything to come out of Naggarythe
distant past
it was like a couple hundred years ago, literally a tenth of the Empire's existence

farquit
farquit

@Illusionz
@Evil_kitten
Having faith Creative Assembly will do a good job
Looks guys, I'm not saying a World War 1 game with real time battles wouldn't be fun. I'm saying Total War is not the series for it, because Creative Assembly has limited itself to 40-80 boxes of men either stabbing or shooting each other for almost two decades, and they still do a shitty job at least half the time. What makes you think they'll do better outside their comfort zone?

Methnerd
Methnerd

@PurpleCharger
Gunpowder and European involvement? Ming Dynasty. Not only do you have to fend off minor nations giving you shit, the Jurchens are here and you have to save poor Korea before they get fucked over by all the veterans fresh from Shogun 2's conflicts
This would be my preferred time period, especially if it was all of Asia being covered.

BunnyJinx
BunnyJinx

@Garbage Can Lid
Sorry I should've said pre-matchlocks

kizzmybutt
kizzmybutt

@Methnerd
Too bad this mod has no translation
Plenty of Central Asians and Southeast Asians in there too

Might even get pinoys in a future release. Stronkest race.

http://www.twcenter.net/forums/showthread.php?754084-A-Rebranding-of-Asia-Empires-now-called-17th-Century-Revolution

girlDog
girlDog

@farquit
what makes you think they'll do better outside their comfort zone?
Nigga wut? I don't know about you, but I'd say that Warhammer falls pretty far outside of their established comfort zone

likme
likme

@PurpleCharger
damn all of those sound awesome

kizzmybutt
kizzmybutt

@JunkTop
darren's stream
@VisualMaster

King_Martha
King_Martha

@BlogWobbles

Biggest disappointment

w8t4u
w8t4u

@PurpleCharger
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Great_Divergence

lostmypassword
lostmypassword

@kizzmybutt
darrens stream
Why would anybody watch that dumpster fire?
Just watch gore instead, it's more humane.

viagrandad
viagrandad

@lostmypassword
people only watch him after new content is announced with the hope that he will leak stuff

JunkTop
JunkTop

@SniperWish
@Booteefool
Michael Moorcock may be a bitter old cunt, but he knows how to write.

literal comic book tier writer is amazing cus he like totally hates god and tolkien and knows that GOOD is DUMB

yeah ok

takes2long
takes2long

@girlDog
In some ways absolutely, in others not at all. It still functions much the same in terms of stack based combat revolving around breaking morale with le hammer and anvil ebin memes, albeit with more variety thrown in.

Why do Skaven and Orcs field the same numbers of troops as other factions in max battles? Why can't you used summon units unless you have an open unit slot? Why do Agents take up army slots still? Why are mixed units and unit based upgrades not in game? There's a lot of arbitrary decisions that were made between the tabletop and TWW to fit Warhammer into the Total War formula.

Harmless_Venom
Harmless_Venom

@JunkTop
read
@hairygrape

King_Martha
King_Martha

@likme
Western powers have gatrings and modern rifles
Qing still run around with these guys

Harmless_Venom
Harmless_Venom

@viagrandad
Wouldnt he need to still have contacts at CA to leak shit? Did he firebomb all those bridges with that sperg stream after he left CA?

Deadlyinx
Deadlyinx

@Deadlyinx
relic devs who made coh1 team up with CA and make a TW:WW2
How hype would you be?

Garbage Can Lid
Garbage Can Lid

@Techpill
Sure sounds like Total War dude

Playboyize
Playboyize

@Deadlyinx
Still ready for disappointment but also morbid curiosity.

Ignoramus
Ignoramus

@Deadlyinx
@Deadlyinx
I mean yr probably right, but FotS was close enough when it came to industrial conflict, so I think with focus CA could pull it off.

Then again just do FotS again but in 19th century China and that might be easier.

Nojokur
Nojokur

@Harmless_Venom
is rick and morty also a guilty pleasure of yours?

SniperGod
SniperGod

@5mileys
be me
playing as imperial japan
be shogun slave for a good 20 turns
rebel and fuck them up with my superior human brain
invade korea
MANDATEOFHEAVEN.png
chinese hordes rush in
it's medieval 2 at 5x the scale
musketmen and spearmen duking it out in waves
cannons pounding shit
mongol cavalry running down
i get pushed back to the mainland
chinese pirates offer their services to the M A N D A T E
huge chinese stack invades japan
in the brink of defeat
"hi we are the west"
entire new fucking tech tree unlocked, i get one free tech
fallofthesamurai.exe
gatling guns run down the chinese hordes
we push them back by force of bayonet and breech loaded rifles
railroads and industry arrive, making so much cash it's unbelievable
china gets shitty western ideology events
emperor goes against the wave of liberalism
R E L E A S E T H E H O R D E S
literally dozens of rebel stacks on mainland china
emperor's so salty you could preserve an entire season worth of food
kek uncontrollably as chinese conscripts fail to kill even one superior japanese rifleman
one cavalry unit gets through the fire, gets cut down by katanas folded 1,000,000 times
about to capture the last non-japanese city
americans ask for korean independence
lol fuck off
american doomstack lands in tokyo
lose game within 5 turns

i need this

massdebater
massdebater

@Nojokur
no, fag

Techpill
Techpill

@girlDog
Dark Elf Spearmanii vs Empire Spearmanii

Leaping into more modern and industrial conflicts is way different than line infantry formations in a fantasy setting.

Need_TLC
Need_TLC

@SniperGod
not killing the waitu piggu

cum2soon
cum2soon

DUDE WHAT IF CA MADE A FPS AND PUT THE TOTAL WAR TITLE ON IT. FUCKING COOL RIGHT. THAT TOTAL WAR TITLE IS REALLY IMPORTANT.

Nojokur
Nojokur

Wait do Longbowmen in Stainless Steel not have armor penetration?

happy_sad
happy_sad

@massdebater
sword and sorcery has loads of great authors. there is no need to stoop as low as moorcuck or call it a guilty pleasure

do you at least fap to tranny porn because "it takes too long to find a good video with a women"?

lostmypassword
lostmypassword

@Ignoramus
FOTS works because of the completely weirdness of the Boshin war, imo. There are some incredibly modern units in there (Gatlings, Carbine Skirmishers, Armstrong Cannons), but it also has a ton of traditional units that you're forced to use early game, and even by mid game you're still mostly using Napoleonic tactics. It's only in the late game where the real broken industrial shit comes out, but usually most units in battle are still wishing to fight in blocks so it works out. The problem comes out when everything is based on the late game units, and European armies wised up in the late 19th century and stopped fighting in big blocks, instead breaking up into smaller units to fight from cover, breaking the Total War formula.

19th Century China, like Taiping or Boxer Rebellion, could hypothetically work, because you've got tons of old unit types like in FOTS to lock battles into the Total War formula.

kizzmybutt
kizzmybutt

@SniperGod
Yeah something like this. I just like the scale and horror of Asian warfare of this period. Plus you get the mixed of rifles vs more traditional units.

communist party would get asshurt if you ever show this period though.

kizzmybutt
kizzmybutt

@Nojokur
Yeah, they killed that Anglo meme. Don't worry, they're still great. Their ROF is insane and they get higher damage instead of armor piercing. So they absolutely crush anyone without armor, and even armored units will take plenty of damage from the amount of projectiles.

Techpill
Techpill

@SniperGod
Fucking kek. Gonna save.

@kizzmybutt
Communist party still has yet to banhammer the modders so I think we're all good

cum2soon
cum2soon

@Nojokur
Nope

eGremlin
eGremlin

@kizzmybutt
Maybe I won't have to trash my England campaign after all. Just seems like they don't really have anything else that makes their roster stand out, aside from late late stuff like Billmen and Kings Men.

viagrandad
viagrandad

i just got home and am way to tired/lazy to read all the saga announcement stuff. is saga just their new way of naming titles like napoleon and Attila?

TalkBomber
TalkBomber

@PurpleCharger
Jin dynasty master race

Give me the battle of the seven princes

BunnyJinx
BunnyJinx

That was a hell of a fight.

Inmate
Inmate

Ottoman Infantry looks insane though. High damages bows AND high melee stats? Damn.

Methshot
Methshot

@happy_sad
Stop it user, I'm trying to be pissed.

I agree, but Moorecock is at least a pitstop along the road of better books. How would I have known it was ass-shit-terrible unless I read it?

I only really like the books for the art anyway.

Dreamworx
Dreamworx

@TalkBomber
battle of the seven princes
You're thinking of the other jin dynasty?

I'm talking about the Jurchens before they called themselves the Manchu

Emberburn
Emberburn

@Deadlyinx
I always thought more modern Total War games (eg. Victoria) could work if the shift of strategies was displayed.

Post-Napoleonic Era
Literally Napoleon: Total War

Civil War Era
Smaller units that can be grouped into AI regiments that the player tells what to do, while retaining manual control if wanted

WW1 (and WW2?) era
Platoon-sized units grouped into companies, which are bunched up into battalions. Only battalions are completely manual while company and platoon movement is by default AI (but can be done by the player to micro)

Is it too complicated? I think it'd take away the extreme micro involved with moving platoon-sized units in a Total War-scale game.

Tanks are already in Warhammer and airplanes could work like they do in Steel Division and Wargame where they are normally off-map but can loiter in the map. Everything else should be familiar.

viagrandad
viagrandad

@kizzmybutt
they don't take higher damage fag. the high armor on heavy plate infantry will make your lightly armored infantry useless. You still need a core of dismounted heavy infantry to trade with the enemy.
By the actual late era you are better off phasing out your longbows for pike and shot,

Evilember
Evilember

having to wait for reinforcing armies when attacking a city is stupid

I just spent two turns sitting there building a siege tower, but I can't wait for my other armies to enter the battlefield the same time as me?

Firespawn
Firespawn

@viagrandad
Yeah. They said FOTS is their model.

Nojokur
Nojokur

@Inmate
they also don't have access to pikemen or late era european cavalry.

viagrandad
viagrandad

@Nojokur
I mean neither do the Eastern Romans, unless we're counting German mercenaries.

Though I guess Scholae are about the best tin-openers on horseback in the game with their maces and ultra-high defense?

hairygrape
hairygrape

@Methshot
I think user is exaggerating and Moorecock really isn't too bad. Even if his prose can be weaker, he's strong conceptually (albeit dated) which merits reading him.

Like to only read Leiber and never read Moorecock, you would miss things. Veeky Forums just tends towards exclusionary elitism.

RavySnake
RavySnake

@whereismyname
@girlDog
Are lizardmemes the faction with the best texture work of all total war games? They look fantastic

VisualMaster
VisualMaster

@cum2soon
lmao let's just recycle the same shit every year

VisualMaster
VisualMaster

@viagrandad
I meant they had higher damage than other professional archer units, so one shouldn't be like "wtf no AP on longbows worthelss now". The English Longbow line is still very good in Stainless Steel. Yeah by the time end game it might not work as great, but longbows behind a good line of Bills is very devastating, especially since Stainless Steel makes it harder to blob knights anyways.

@eGremlin
The Longbow line is what really makes them. Bills are good as affordable front liners, who do have AP and resist charges well.

5mileys
5mileys

@viagrandad
they have menualoi pikemen and I think eventually get access to musketeers.

Methnerd
Methnerd

@viagrandad
Scholae will beat 16th century Gendarmes in a 1 on 1

Booteefool
Booteefool

@VisualMaster
you can blob knights just as easily if you know what you are doing and archers generally do very little against heavy infantry.
Yes they will outrange regular xbowmen but the problem is that longbowmen
take too long to recruit
limited AoR
I like that they aren't a one size fits all murderweapon in the game though

Spamalot
Spamalot

Yo, I've read /twg/ a few times around when I left CA after my first shitstorm stream, and just checked in on it today when someone linked it to me. I actually found the punished darren stuff really funny.

I'm not sure why everybody here finds it such a big deal that grace reads Veeky Forums, pretty weird but whatever.

To the people that wonder why I left a well paying job just to "shit on CA" well it's basically because I wasn't happy with the direction of the series or the franchise. They're very successful, which is great, but I don't feel any of it gets passed to consumers, which it doesnt have to, but I didn't want to be a part of it.

I know that sounds self righteous or whatever, but I don't care, bottom line is I just wasn't happy there. I would get frustrated at the state of the game, the employees that don't care / haven't played the game before and then the reasoning behind certain decisions being made.

When I left, I also didn't think "Yeah I'm awesome, I'm gonna get 1000's of patrons and be super successful" I actually predicted I'd get around $200 a month and slowly grow it while I do freelance work. I got a bit more than that in the beginning, but growth has been slower than I thought. I also didn't plan on "shitting on them" right out the gate. My excitement got the better of me and I came out looking like a whiny bitch, which will probably be the image I maintain for a lot of you forever.

I also thought when I left I could go broke, which is slowly happening right now, and I knew this was more likely to happen than anything. I know I'm not a big charasmatic personality. But I left anyway, because I wasn't happy there.

Anyway, just thought I'd post that to clear up some reoccuring arguments. I know it probably won't change much and I also don't send people here ever. At the end of the day I criticised a companies games, got hired by them, and then quit to go back to criticisng them, that's really all that's happened. Granted it's a bit weird.

Fried_Sushi
Fried_Sushi

@Methnerd
they are literally cataphracts that have AP damage.

Bidwell
Bidwell

@hairygrape
I've read most of the notable sword and sorcery works, and moorecock is probably the worst. His character is cool, but it hasn't aged well.

Leiber coming in first, Vance coming in second. Everyone else is on Conan's coattails.

video games

StonedTime
StonedTime

@Spamalot
go away ScumEgg

CouchChiller
CouchChiller

@Spamalot
post leaks or fuck off bald cunt

VisualMaster
VisualMaster

@Methnerd
BYZANTINABOOS CAN'T KEEP GETTING AWAY WITH THIS
REMEMBER THE BYZANTINE EMPIRE FELL

Methshot
Methshot

@Bidwell
Conan has much worldbuilding than the good professor though.

CodeBuns
CodeBuns

@Spamalot
Okay, where did you get this pasta from?

Spazyfool
Spazyfool

@Spamalot

At least we got fucking Wessex

Lunatick
Lunatick

@Spamalot
If this is LARP it is really convincing, but honestly you seem like the real Darren.

viagrandad
viagrandad

@Methshot
*much less

Skullbone
Skullbone

@VisualMaster
Longbow line meaning, what, like 4-6 companies standing behind a defensive front line? Can Bills just take on late game heavy cav charges?

@5mileys
Turns out you are right. Though only in Constantinople, but who cares, I can do Greek Pike&Shot&Flamethrower!

@Methnerd
Pic related, I am so ready. Looking at it now, though, I guess I really should have sent all those generals to be governors and just put Skoutatoi in there. Fuck me lads, I'm still new to the medieval2 meme.

RumChicken
RumChicken

how it feels to modernize

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p9SIVzjZhlk

StonedTime
StonedTime

all these histfags came out of the woodwork

i thought u guys all left for good

CouchChiller
CouchChiller

@Booteefool
It's been so long since I played Stainless Steel, I forgot they were an AoR limited unit. But yeah, I still think they're pretty amazing units in SS. Well worth buying and making part of your armies until the game starts transitioning into full plate all the time. The range advantage and RoF on them is nuts, and wooden stakes are always useful.

Lunatick
Lunatick

@Spamalot
fuck off Darren

Spamalot
Spamalot

@Skullbone
AI fucks off from constantinople
you send spies in and autoresolve
kek.

happy_sad
happy_sad

@TechHater
Its just like the historical games with the occasional monster/beast in the non-human factions.
occasional
Nah
it's true almost every army has their own version of spearmanii, but there are factions that field entire armies of monsters, plus warhammer has stuff from pretty much all periods of history total war has used before.
black powder units from empire/napoopan
chariots from rome 1/2
knights from medieval 1/2
and so on

askme
askme

@StonedTime
I am playing a warhammer campaign right now m8.
@CouchChiller
The english professional longbowmen take 6 turns to recruit. Lack of AP makes them much less amazing or rather less OP.

DeathDog
DeathDog

@Lunatick
Nah I like this place, think I'm gonna read and post every day now :D

LuckyDusty
LuckyDusty

@Methshot
There was a lot of fantasy countries in Conan books so I couldn't keep up, but they could all stand in for each other. They all had a jungle or desert and black dudes running around.

Best one was The Tower of the Elephant.

Stupidasole
Stupidasole

dark elf captures phoenix gate
gets two hydras in garrison
I get two eagles

Boy_vs_Girl
Boy_vs_Girl

@Skullbone
You'll have to build a Special Barracks that takes 17 turns to build before you can recruit them. Also those Pikes can be recruited in any city you silly goose :<)

idontknow
idontknow

@Dreamworx
the first jin dynasty, the one that shat itself like right after the first ruler died

StonedTime
StonedTime

@Bidwell
I am @Booteefool
so I'm not going to get into this but needless to say I don't agree and I think a simplistic ranking like that is a disservice to anyone really interested in digging into the S&S genre. You have Clark Ashton Smith pre-Conan, a bunch of contemporaries in the Weird Tales era bringing their own stuff into the mix (like I've always preferred Jirel of Joiry to Red Sonja) and later stuff post-Elric like Virconium which is really a milestone in and of itself.

Poker_Star
Poker_Star

@Skullbone
Longbow line meaning, what, like 4-6 companies standing behind a defensive front line? Can Bills just take on late game heavy cav charges?
Yeah basically. You obviously don't want most of your army being archers, even if you go archer heavy it should probably be maybe 8 Longbows at most with the rest being your run of the mill cavalry and infantry.

Bills are great for mid-early and maybe mid-late game. If they have good experience and armor upgrades, they can hold very well. But remember they're not knights, so you shouldn't expect the unreasonable from them. The later variants should be pretty solid front liners, but late Stainless Steel cavalry is pretty god damn amazing. It's hard for anything without pikes to stand against the Gendarmes charge without massive casualties. But Heavy Billmen with proper upgrades should be able to trade very effectively against Chivalric Knights, for instance. Helps a lot if you put them on a slope.

Flameblow
Flameblow

@Stupidasole
post folder

VisualMaster
VisualMaster

@Stupidasole
eagles are great for rescuing hobbits though

ZeroReborn
ZeroReborn

@Spamalot
Oh no, the garrison was still very large and made up almost exclusively of crusaders and crossbowmen. This is just the result of ten turns of attrition.

@askme
6 turns
Well fuck me in the arse mate

@Boy_vs_Girl
Wait, does Constantinople not have the Scholae Barracks from the start in the Late Era campaign? That's some fucking meme shit, it has them in the Early start.
Also those Pikes can be recruited in any city you silly goose :<)
Oh yeah I was talking about the Late Musketeers. At least it says so on RR spreadsheet site.

FastChef
FastChef

@VisualMaster
BYZANTINABOOS CAN'T KEEP GETTING AWAY WITH THIS
t. Sultan Mehmed Dandolo IV

StrangeWizard
StrangeWizard

@LuckyDusty
that and the story about the snek are the best ones.
everything else is varying shades of pulp.
JRRT is like a perfect set of manuscripts in comparison.

Illusionz
Illusionz

guys how do i get the sex

Poker_Star
Poker_Star

@Stupidasole
dark elf captures gate
they gate black guards
you get white lions(LOL)

Sir_Gallonhead
Sir_Gallonhead

@StrangeWizard
pulp is inherently bad
Please die.

girlDog
girlDog

@StrangeWizard
His world-building is legendary but god damnit I can't deal with all of the poems before every chapter and all of the walking. I liked the hobbit more.

I got into the movies first, so it made me a pleb when I read the books.

TalkBomber
TalkBomber

@Illusionz
hammer and anvil

VisualMaster
VisualMaster

twg is too busy shitposting to post campaigns.
Lads, our general fell to the hordes.

TechHater
TechHater

@ZeroReborn
Does Constantinople not have the Scholae Barracks from the start in the Late Era campaign
Lol yep, have fun with the Turks and Venice kiddo, send the Sultan my regards.

whereismyname
whereismyname

@Poker_Star
Thanks for the advice man, I really enjoy playing M2 but I never got far enough to try out all the later stuff so this is really helping me put things into perspective.
I've never actually done a full frontal heavy cav charge in the game, the hammer and anvil meme is too deep in my bones. Can you actually do it or are you just basically throwing the very few knights you have in the early game into the spearmanii death trap?

Poker_Star
Poker_Star

@Flameblow
Okay.

Methshot
Methshot

@ZeroReborn
Yeah, Longbows need a lot of planning and prepwork to use.
Funnily enough by the very late game castles start becoming useless since all the pro troops can be trained in cities and they have better economies to boot.

whereismyname
whereismyname

@Stupidasole
wouldnt some fliers in a garrison be a bit useful? To counter the enemy flying over the walls and murdering your artillery you can engage them above your own archers firing upwards. To bad the eagles suck.

Crazy_Nice
Crazy_Nice

why does this Attila mod have Jon Bernthal in it?

DeathDog
DeathDog

@RavySnake
idk, the lighting in WH2 is really bad, so nothing looks as it should

ZeroReborn
ZeroReborn

@Poker_Star
contributing

iluvmen
iluvmen

@Sir_Gallonhead
No, I said it is pulp.
It doesn't have the nuances of a way of thinking that a philogist with experience in the 1st world war who watched britain turn into mini mordor.

Inmate
Inmate

@VisualMaster
I'm going to start a DEI campaign, can you recommend a good faction? I've only played as Romans

LuckyDusty
LuckyDusty

@DeathDog
lighting in WH2 is really bad
What did she mean by this

DeathDog
DeathDog

@SniperWish
Melnibonenians are actually just really fucked up humans

BinaryMan
BinaryMan

Stop posting history

GoogleCat
GoogleCat

@TechHater
Venice tried to attack Albania twice and got memed on, they asked me for a ceasefire last turn and I declined. Ragusa will be Roman.
Though a one-unit Sicilian army landed in Albania this turn, maybe this is the start of a big meme war.

@Methshot
It already feels that way sometimes, with the Romans getting their Urban Professional heavy infantry unit and England getting the improved Archer Militia. In my England campaign I'm just trying to pool together what light men at arms and serjeants together while waiting for the pope to give me a turn to further fuck the French with.

Stupidasole
Stupidasole

@whereismyname
Can you actually do it
Yep, most Spearmanii are shit and Cav in SS is even more stupidly broken then Vanilla, a Cavalry charge in SS could bore through the walls of Babylon.

happy_sad
happy_sad

@whereismyname
In Stainless Steel, yes. Load into a Custom Battle and do a full gallop charge of Feudal Knights into Spear Militia. They will run right over them. Try it against Spear Sergeants and they'll still massacre like half the unit before fighting. Some people complain about it, but it sort of makes sense to me. Knights and other heavy cavalry in Stainless Steel are expensive as shit, so I makes sense that Spear Militia at like 1/10th their cost and upkeep don't slaughter them. It takes some getting used.

MPmaster
MPmaster

@Inmate
Suebi

SomethingNew
SomethingNew

@GoogleCat
Romans
oh yeah. the castrophilakae.
I don't know where to use them. I try to create professional armies but the scoutotai have both spearmen and swordsmen. Between them, the mourtatoi and cataphracts I have a pretty great core army

Emberburn
Emberburn

@happy_sad
What beats heavy cavalry in Stainless Steel?

TechHater
TechHater

@Poker_Star

@whereismyname
If it was one of the two Phoenixes, sure. But Eagles don't really do much in a defensive siege, too fragile to send out at a scurrying force huddled in front of a wall. Best you can do is deal with artillery if it's alone and even then it's usually easier to just shoot it with towers most likely.

JunkTop
JunkTop

Start posting history

New_Cliche
New_Cliche

@happy_sad
One thing you can do is use
schiltrom
or make deeper ranks instead of spaghetti lining them.

Nojokur
Nojokur

@SomethingNew
Not him but this "ERE isn't Roman" meme needs to stop.

Ignoramus
Ignoramus

@Stupidasole
@happy_sad
It just feels so wasteful when you can hammer with them. Spearmen are so easy to replace, knights take forever.

@SomethingNew
Yeah, the super extremely prelavent professional line infantry is what really drew me to the Romans this time. I love the cataphract meme but having actual, organised, professional to the core armies all game just is amazing.

Lord_Tryzalot
Lord_Tryzalot

@Emberburn
Pikes
Sometimes other Heavy Cavalry
AP missiles
Swamping them with anti-cavalry and AP infantry once they've charged

Really their charge is the worst part. They will still do a surprising amount of damage in melee, but they're not cost effective at all.

Also @New_Cliche
helps to alleviate the charge damage.

cum2soon
cum2soon

have to wait for the saga
why isn't it out now

TreeEater
TreeEater

Kroq-Gar's start in Mortal Empires is fucking painful.
pathetic income
undead and vampire attrition for dozens of initial turns
dwarfs

SniperWish
SniperWish

@happy_sad
knights charging into spears from the front
wins
glad I don't use retarded mods like stainless steel.

Stupidasole
Stupidasole

@Nojokur
Never said they weren't m8. I just want to make a more well rounded byzantine army but castrophilakae have no place in it

StonedTime
StonedTime

@SniperWish
shock cavalry must lose to spearmen 100% of the time
t. shogun 2 pro.

PurpleCharger
PurpleCharger

I actually tried a late era Roman campaign when I did my first tentative steps into M2 earlier this year, never managed to actually get THE CITY. I know I sieged it out like a pussy but still, it feels kind of amazing. I hope you're all having fun too, /twg/.

@Lord_Tryzalot
Swamping them with anti-cavalry and AP infantry once they've charged
This combined with soaking up the charge with militia schiltrons is how I do. Truly the most patrician way to stop heavy cav is to sacrifice the lives of hundreds of peasants just to soak up the intial impact of combat.

Spamalot
Spamalot

@StonedTime
charge cavalry into braced anti-cavalry unit from the front
win
woah..... so this...... this is the power...... the power of m2......

lostmypassword
lostmypassword

@SniperWish
Professional trained men at arms with the highest tech equipment and hardest discipline in the age charging into levied farmers with tiny spears shorter than lances
wins
glad I use mods like stainless steel.

Harmless_Venom
Harmless_Venom

@VisualMaster
Total War is a formula. Why are you people obsessed with having the total war title behind anything?

girlDog
girlDog

see some mod
look at the comments
"DURRR DIS WORK WITH SFO??????"

happy_sad
happy_sad

@PurpleCharger
In other news, the Persians just got destroyed. I am not ready to be mongoled.

StrangeWizard
StrangeWizard

@lostmypassword
horses
ever charging into a wall of spears
nah

whereismyname
whereismyname

@girlDog
sfo is the new radious

compatibel wit radiuos?

WebTool
WebTool

@girlDog
Isn't it a legitimate question though if the modder hasn't stated otherwise?

New_Cliche
New_Cliche

@Spamalot
@SniperWish
Dragon Ogres charge my anti-large Empire Spearmen
Win
woah...... so this.... this is.... the power.... of creative assembly....

Stark_Naked
Stark_Naked

@lostmypassword
Professional trained
From birth. It took the rediscovery of pike warfare to return dominion of the battlefield back to infantry.

lostmypassword
lostmypassword

@happy_sad
@StonedTime
5 men left in enemy knight unit
they still kill half the men in one of my braced units because of how charge damage works

Fucking retarded mod design decision

Playboyize
Playboyize

brown shoguns: 0-1
light blue shoguns 2-3
green shoguns 4-5
yellow imperials 6-7
pink imperials 8-9

massdebater
massdebater

@Playboyize
Excellent, now purge the rebellious filth from the Shogunate's harmonious islands.

likme
likme

truly incites terror on the battlefield

girlDog
girlDog

@massdebater
"surrenders immediately" behind you

t. pro-shogun

hairygrape
hairygrape

@lostmypassword
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_the_Golden_Spurs

CodeBuns
CodeBuns

@Spamalot

Darren it's midnight ion the UK, go to bed

hairygrape
hairygrape

@girlDog
DERET DIS

Poker_Star
Poker_Star

@Illusionz
@TalkBomber

W E S S E X
E
S
S
E
X

PackManBrainlure
PackManBrainlure

@hairygrape
pikemen
crossbowmen
Sure isn't the same as spear militia or super early era spear sergeants.

Ignoramus
Ignoramus

@JunkTop
really straws the man, huh. I said Moorcock entertains me, not that anything he says is particularly profound or on the level of Tolkien. not everyone needs to be a literary mastermind to be good at what they do.

DeathDog
DeathDog

@Spamalot

That is some excellent larping m'darren

hairygrape
hairygrape

@hairygrape
flemish pikemen in a swamp
lose the war regardless.

Garbage Can Lid
Garbage Can Lid

@hairygrape
Psh, nothin personnel, peasants. Hammer and Anvil best meme of my life.

Spazyfool
Spazyfool

OH NO

Evilember
Evilember

@New_Cliche
comparing gigantic monsters to normal horses
lol

girlDog
girlDog

@Spazyfool
The house of anjou will grow larger

SniperGod
SniperGod

@Evilember
comparing 1 made up monster to an unbroken deep line of charging armored horses bristling with couched lances and well trained, disciplines riders.
lol

Fried_Sushi
Fried_Sushi

@girlDog
Capetian genocide soon.

w8t4u
w8t4u

@PackManBrainlure
Point is knights lost against a militia army equipped with goedendag weapons that were only 3 to 5 ft long. Knights always winning because they're better trained and more expensive is false.

Sir_Gallonhead
Sir_Gallonhead

@SniperGod
dragon ogres come in units of one
do you play on small or something

Nojokur
Nojokur

@SniperGod
doesn't the fact that it's a made up monster gives credence to the fact that it can beat hundreds of men? It's made up, so it can do anything
meanwhile, maybe you don't know, but horses are real, friendo, and we know for a fact that horses charging spears just doesn't happen outside of very rare instances
horses aren't that stupid

it's one thing if the spearman panicked before the charge got there (which is what happened in most instances of horses winning against spears from the front), but that's not how stainless steel portrays it, despite claiming historical accuracy.

JunkTop
JunkTop

https://youtu.be/n730FWycrTY

GoogleCat
GoogleCat

@Evilember
I'm pretty sure Empire Spearmen lose to Reiksguards or Knights of the Realm pretty badly too. There is a reason you upgrade from the shittiest spear unit in the game to Halberds once able, same reason you upgrade spear militias to better anti-cavalry units once able.

JunkTop
JunkTop

@GoogleCat
shittiest spear unit in the game
but that isn't gobbos
or ungors
or any bretonnian fucking shits

Sharpcharm
Sharpcharm

@GoogleCat
fantasy garbage game
vs historical game with mod that is trying to be historically accurate
why are you guys assuming anyone criticizing stainless shit a fan of fantasy?

Flameblow
Flameblow

@Sir_Gallonhead
Not an argument I was thinking of Shaggoths

@Nojokur
Actually an argument, and a fair one. Unfortunately poor unit cohesion and that type of morale shock isn't something you can model well in M2, so Stainless Steel just does it the current way. It works for me, but I can understand how it can frustrate other people. It gets pretty egregious @lostmypassword
with stuff like that.

Spazyfool
Spazyfool

@Sharpcharm
Med 2, even modded Med 2
historical accuracy
o am i laffin

FastChef
FastChef

@JunkTop
he says gael iad féin twice in the last verse
could've learned the song at least

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XoZw_xS-5kA

Bidwell
Bidwell

@JunkTop
Goblins aren't really a spear unit. They don't have a bonus versus large. They're really just built to die.

lostmypassword
lostmypassword

@Bidwell
hey, sharp sticks count to the goblins, and that's what matters :^)

viagrandad
viagrandad

@Sharpcharm
knights will absolutely dominate early game but fall into disuse once infantry starts getting better
seems accurate to me.

LuckyDusty
LuckyDusty

@Flameblow
this is bait or you're an autist.

Sir_Gallonhead
Sir_Gallonhead

no floppy ostentatious feather plume to signal your elite sense of fashion
no massive horse barding so heavy you barely ride faster than a man can run
has to enslave peasants and take their meager scrapings to sustain your war effort instead of just living in like princes in forts around the Empire sustained by state gold
believing in elf deities and all sorts of heathen shit instead of true Ulric and Sigmar
so boring even radious doesn't bother making an infantry version of you(handguns, grenade launchers)

Breatonnian """"knights"""" everybody.

DeathDog
DeathDog

Is there a way to mod in a mixed unit?
As in, a unit where half has one weapon, half has another?

Snarelure
Snarelure

@DeathDog
use locked formations.

PurpleCharger
PurpleCharger

The King of Sicily himself had lead the charge through the breach, and things had seemed hopeless. Until the Strategos of Albania threw himself and his bodyguard at the Sicilian king and his knights.

Doukas was slain by the Sicilian king, but his sacrifice for the Empire was not in vain. His men cut down the wounded Norman, and his men lost heart. A charge of mere 13 mounted acritae to the rear of the breach and javelinmen tossing their load into the masses lead to a mass rout, with over a thousand prisoners taken. Their ransoms will either fuel the continued restoration of the Empire, or they will be put to the sword so that they may never raise their hands against Rome again.

SomethingNew
SomethingNew

@hairygrape
Of course there are instnaces of infantry forces in the middle ages using pike tactics and the like to beat superior cavalry forces, however the majority of battles, Cavalry are the deciding factor.

hairygrape
hairygrape

@TreeEater
My chaos invasion came like 2 turns after betraying the great crusader/desert dorf coalition. I didn't leave not-africa for like 100 turns, it was a mess

kizzmybutt
kizzmybutt

@PurpleCharger
Give them the sword.

RavySnake
RavySnake

@kizzmybutt
I actually didn't get the chance. That army disappeared off the map completely as well. I guess the survivors of the fight were a bit angry.

But now I'm making 10k per turn, the scholae barracks are being built and skoutatoi are being recruited all over the Empire. A time of reconquest and restoration is upon us!

But that's a story for another day. Good night, /twg/. Thanks again for all the advice.

Playboyize
Playboyize

@PurpleCharger
Mounted Akritae are the bane of steppe niggers and Frankish knight-fags everywhere.

TalkBomber
TalkBomber

@DeathDog

Probably not easily but anything is possible given enough time

TurtleCat
TurtleCat

Is there ANYONE here that creates mods? ME really needs a mod where confederation is disabled for everyone but the player, AI Empire, AI Bretonnia, AI Greenskins, and probably Wood Elves (although they blob just as bad as the Dwarves do sometimes when they join together)

I don't WANT to fight stack blobs. I get enough of that from fighting Chaos. I WANT to fight one on one armies with comparable strengths, earn my clay. Not autoresolve in a unstoppable lightning strike doomstack because the AI spammed ten stacks a turn at me.

Spazyfool
Spazyfool

wat do next

Stupidasole
Stupidasole

@Nude_Bikergirl
Some sort of Warhammer total war mixed with world in conflict style call down abilities? I think I'd support that.

PurpleCharger
PurpleCharger

@Spazyfool
war crimes

Snarelure
Snarelure

@TurtleCat
dunno, but if you want I can mod you a button that auto-wins the game for you, you big faggot

the AI cannot hope to match your adapting skills, therefore to give the game a degree of difficulty you need to fight stacks
learn to deal with that you big baby

Flameblow
Flameblow

@Spazyfool
Remove as many Imperials north of you as possible. Once the war really gets going, Obama is the front lines. Expect to get your shit bombarded a lot and many Imperial stacks going your way. So the quicker your allies in the north can snowball, the better.

CouchChiller
CouchChiller

is Morathi's weapon supposed to spread corruption or was this meant to be fixed?

BlogWobbles
BlogWobbles

@CouchChiller

kek

DeathDog
DeathDog

@Crazy_Nice
kek, I won't be able to unsee it now.

w8t4u
w8t4u

@Nude_Bikergirl
Empire
Helstorm barrage
Dwarfs
Gyrocopter naptha bomb
DA BOYZ
'Splodin squig
Treeniggers
Strangleroot or beast stampede
Bretonnia
buff the Green Knight, make him a one man blender on par with most monstrous infantry
Vampires
CALL IN THE UNDEAD GIANT
Beasty Boys
Corrupted beast stampede
Norsca/Chaos
Frostwyrm/Chaos Dragon strafing run
sound any good?

Supergrass
Supergrass

@Snarelure
I'm going to fuck you in the ass if you don't learn to be respectful.

Stark_Naked
Stark_Naked

@Flameblow
HAHA XD OBAMA MIRITE
Fuck off /pol/, you are not welcome here.

JunkTop
JunkTop

@Supergrass
No, I'm going to fuck you in the ass if you don't stop behaving like a baby throwing a tantrum.
The AI is as smart as a retarded kid. The only thing it knows is hammer and anvil. The epitome of a one trick pony.

Carnalpleasure
Carnalpleasure

@JunkTop
Bend over you little shit who can't accept how other people have fun.

Stark_Naked
Stark_Naked

Why does it seem like every old world faction is shit in autoresolve against the new world factions?

Evilember
Evilember

@Carnalpleasure
No, you bend over, you big fucking crybaby.
I'll teach you to have fun the right way.

Garbage Can Lid
Garbage Can Lid

@Supergrass
@JunkTop
go on

Dreamworx
Dreamworx

@Stark_Naked
Under careful Dawi stewardship the Old Word will be safe.

Evilember
Evilember

@Dreamworx
Dawi from quite another hold when?

Supergrass
Supergrass

@Crazy_Nice
Mod?

hairygrape
hairygrape

@Stark_Naked
strongest autoresolve faction in the game is an old world faction
what did you mean by this?

farquit
farquit

@Stark_Naked
full stack of Free Company Militia rolls out
HOL' UP

Methshot
Methshot

@farquit
Free Company Militia (Axes)

happy_sad
happy_sad

@Evilember
Never ever. But only in case of WH2.

Need_TLC
Need_TLC

@Methshot
Free Company Militia (Throwable Axes)(Rat Grenades)(Primal Instincts)

RavySnake
RavySnake

So I just quit at turn 2 of my Morghur campaign, for some reason the background vocals you usually here on the campaign map were cutting out and replaying over and over like a broken record.

Is this a common bug? Because I have never noticed it before.

Spazyfool
Spazyfool

@CouchChiller
I think if they moved away from
1 unit=1 type of soldier
and could make mixed units then a Pike and Shot TW would be amazing. Literally every TW is just hammer and anvil, having mixed units would really help both unit variety but also tactics as if almost every infantry is a porcupine from every side then brainless cavalry play is going to be harder.

Garbage Can Lid
Garbage Can Lid

where does attila usually hang out? he became the hun faction leader but isnt leading any of the armies

takes2long
takes2long

@Spazyfool
Literally every TW is just hammer and anvil
ummm, sweetie have you heard of empire and napoleon???

@Garbage Can Lid
if you go into the diplo screen and select the huns, wherever their icon is is usually where the horde he is leading is. Sometimes he will become faction leader before he is actually allowed to lead an army

TreeEater
TreeEater

@Methshot
Free Company Militia (throwing axes) (rat grenades) (armoured) (primal instincts) (great weapons) (fast... for a dwarf)

Sharpcharm
Sharpcharm

How would you guys feel if CA did Total War: Alexander?
Factions would be
Alexander/Philip II's Macedonia
Greece
Persia
Egypt
Mauria, India
Later we could get Ethiopia/Nubians, Italians, Arabians, and Afghans.
The map would basically be the eastern third of the R2 map. Here is the kicker. India. We include all of India and central Asia. And maybe, if you really wanted to push it... China.
You could lead Alexander to greater heights than even he achieved, lead the Pharaoh's in a pre-Ptolemaic Egypt, etc.

Gigastrength
Gigastrength

@takes2long
ummm, sweetie have you heard of empire and napoleon???
still hammer and anvil, just at range now.
heavy infantry=line Infantry
archers/crossbowmen=artillery
cavalry=still cavalry, just a bit shittier.
still then best historical games though

Stark_Naked
Stark_Naked

no shieldmaidens
no valkyries
no celtic warrior princesses
no all-female Dal Riata warrior lodges
no Anglo-Saxon battle nuns
no selkies
no mermaids
no daughter of Ragnar disguised as a boy to join the Great Heathen Army
Are CA fucking *SEXIST* or something?

Harmless_Venom
Harmless_Venom

@takes2long
there's just a generic hun general where the "capital" horde is
And it's saying Attila's 19, and he has a generic Hun voice actor

Dreamworx
Dreamworx

@Harmless_Venom
have you gotten the little cutscene that indicates he's gotten to the point where he's leading the armies?

PurpleCharger
PurpleCharger

@Garbage Can Lid
for me hee declared war on me then sat around here for like 50 turns then BTFO me a few times then died and the huns were swiftly btfo

Bidwell
Bidwell

I wish CA would hire good composers for the music.

Garbage Can Lid
Garbage Can Lid

@Bidwell
Jeff van Dyck was the chosen one.

Stupidasole
Stupidasole

@Dreamworx
I don't think so
when does that usually come? around 425?

Emberburn
Emberburn

@Garbage Can Lid
All I wanted was uncanny valley weird ass skaven music like from vermintide and drums and chanting for the lizardmen and all we get is generic crap. I mean, even dawn of fucking war 3 had more effort put into the music. That waaaghh tower. I wish they had a earphone exploding waaagh cry at the end because it hypes up to nothing.

idontknow
idontknow

I HATE HIM SO FUCKING MUCH AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Snarelure
Snarelure

I like how malekith gives his condescending opinion on agents when you click on them near him.

TalkBomber
TalkBomber

This saga game will be worth it to me. I enjoy viking and Britain age history. This will be great.

JunkTop
JunkTop

milkandcumgargler literally getting paid to shill sfo
what a twit

@Stupidasole
I can't remember off the top of my head, but I have had situations like yours happen where it shows him as faction leader despite him not leading armies

Garbage Can Lid
Garbage Can Lid

How do you counter lizardmen as delves? all their units seem steamroll everything.

Crazy_Nice
Crazy_Nice

@Garbage Can Lid
YOU DON'T.

You use agents to break them down and bombard them with artillery when you're ready to fight them.

Giant dinos are broken, and won't be fixed.

CodeBuns
CodeBuns

@Garbage Can Lid
Ram hydras into dinosaurs and shoot them with crossbows

Raving_Cute
Raving_Cute

@Garbage Can Lid
hahahaha nigga how the fuck are giant dinos real hahaha just use ap missiles nigga hahaha fucking shoot them

+BIG BLACK GUARD beat the brakes off of most of their units

If you really want to fuck with them bring dark riders w/ xbows since they don't have anything that can catch them

Carnalpleasure
Carnalpleasure

@Snarelure
The "Adequate yes adequate" of Morathi makes me hard

likme
likme

@Garbage Can Lid
@Supergrass

Sure it's getting gay in here

Crazy_Nice
Crazy_Nice

should I start being worried?

iluvmen
iluvmen

@likme
Getting gay
It was gay from the start.

Fried_Sushi
Fried_Sushi

@idontknow

nigga you can literally take them on with an army of dreadspears and dreadshards.

BlogWobbles
BlogWobbles

Does Nappy actually fix the shit that made Empire bad?

Carnalpleasure
Carnalpleasure

@Crazy_Nice
so this is the famous high elven diplomacy...

Booteefool
Booteefool

@Dreamworx
t. If I don't get a new shape/primary color to look at every 5 seconds I'll start biting my fingernails and playing with my hair-level ADD child

Sir_Gallonhead
Sir_Gallonhead

@Garbage Can Lid

How do you counter high armor/large: the faction as the faction with AP at every price point.

You are beyond helping.

CouchChiller
CouchChiller

@Crazy_Nice
What if you give him a coin more? Is that a grudge?

viagrandad
viagrandad

A feature they should add that has never really been done in total war is to create new settlements, as long as they are not too close to current cities or towns. This would create a small region around it as well, cut out from other regions/provinces.

This feature would make the most sense in this upcoming saga title, as this is something the Norse settlers would be doing. Dublin was founded in such a way.

Heck your regions influence/boundaries can even grow if you outgrow nearby regions.

Thoughts?

Deadlyinx
Deadlyinx

@Carnalpleasure
if either of them start a war with me, i'm fucked

Techpill
Techpill

@Crazy_Nice

No, you're at good standing with them. They're likely only asking because the AI magically knows when you're sitting on a lot of money.

Lunatick
Lunatick

@Garbage Can Lid
big targets that are easy to hit
many missiles available
This is a tough one my cetacean friend, give me some time to devise a strategy for you.

happy_sad
happy_sad

@Techpill
first they ask for coin, next they ask you to spread your buttcheek
the stunted jewlets are devious, i say

Illusionz
Illusionz

@Raving_Cute
Is there a mod to give Dark Riders move-and-fire.

Boy_vs_Girl
Boy_vs_Girl

@Illusionz
Mod yourself to death irl in real life

King_Martha
King_Martha

@Illusionz
they really don't need it
fast
ap missiles
high rof
able to arc shots
can vanguard

SniperGod
SniperGod

@Boy_vs_Girl
@King_Martha
It is extremely aggravating to me that the Helf fast missile cavalry have move-and-fire and the Delf fast missile cavalry do not.

Deadlyinx
Deadlyinx

@Fried_Sushi
he runs away evertime i chase him, and my army was at bleakhold. Since I declared war on tiranoc, once i leave bleakhold they just take it and by the time i get to beastmen ironspike is raised and FUCK FUCK FUCK THIS FUCKING SHITTY FACTION CAMPAIGN OVER!

Evilember
Evilember

@SniperGod
It's like one has ap and the other doesn't

SniperGod
SniperGod

@SniperGod
If you want every faction to have the same capabilities play history or install radious

WebTool
WebTool

@Evilember
Lore-wise both the repeater crossbow and the elf bow can be fired on the move. Therefore, the AP is irrelevant.

girlDog
girlDog

@WebTool
Faggot

Raving_Cute
Raving_Cute

@Deadlyinx
go into ambush
ai forgets where your army was
can no longer run just out of range
come out of ambush next turn and beat their bovine asses
ez

Booteefool
Booteefool

Surely the majority of us like both history and fantasy?

Which faction will you play first? I play Wales whenever I can if given the opportunity.

Carnalpleasure
Carnalpleasure

@Booteefool
ODINS SONS WILL CRUSH ALL.

Booteefool
Booteefool

@Booteefool
Depends really - I don't know much about the time period, but if it ends up being like AoC 2.0, I'll probably end up going with whoever has the best javs

Dreamworx
Dreamworx

@Booteefool
For Fantasy I play Chaos because I'm an edgy idiot. For History, I pick the ones that I am closely familiar with, which is to say, not a lot. Probably Saxons.

Boy_vs_Girl
Boy_vs_Girl

@Booteefool
Most of its banter shitposting. I'm sure there are are a few in either camp who genuinely believe it though.

Methnerd
Methnerd

@Booteefool
i fucking HATE history
FUCK history

RavySnake
RavySnake

@viagrandad
Interesting idea, maybe have a limit though depending on resources in a given region.

lostmypassword
lostmypassword

@Booteefool
I play fantasy whenever given the opportunity. I NEVER play history.

girlDog
girlDog

@Booteefool
WESSEX
E
S
S
E
X

Fried_Sushi
Fried_Sushi

@Booteefool
I like both and there is nothing anybody can do about it.

StonedTime
StonedTime

@Fried_Sushi
Surely shitposting will solve this, much as it solves everything else.

Soft_member
Soft_member

So I'm fairly new to the series, played shogun 1 and 2 back in the day and decided to pick up warhammer

I was doing well as empire, had a region under my control, trade with just about everyone, building up armies then suddenly, everyone canceled their agreements, tanking my income, and then gangbanged me. Is that just something that happens midgame, or did I make some kind of diplomatic blunder?

Sharpcharm
Sharpcharm

@Soft_member
Probably

cum2soon
cum2soon

@Soft_member
Some scenarios
You became too big and was seen as a threat
You were haphazardly tresspassing
You attacked their friends
Somebody paid them to attack you

LuckyDusty
LuckyDusty

Hey Faggots,

My name is Darren, and I hate every single one of you. All of you are fat, retarded, no-lifes who spend every second of their day playing stupid games. You are everything bad in the world. Honestly, have any of you ever gotten any pussy? I mean, I guess it’s fun making fun of people because of your own insecurities, but you all take to a whole new level. This is even worse than circlejerking on reddit.

Don’t be a stranger. Just hit me with your best shot. I’m pretty much perfect. I was a member of CA's community content team, and founded Republic of Play. What Total War related jobs do you have, other than “shitpost on an online imageboard”? I also have 32 patrons, and a banging hot girlfriend (She just blew me; Shit was SO cash). You are all faggots who should just kill yourselves. Thanks for listening.

Pic Related: It’s me and my hairline

RumChicken
RumChicken

@Soft_member
Shouldn't happen with everyone, sound like you broke a treaty of something

happy_sad
happy_sad

here we go

iluvmen
iluvmen

@JunkTop
in the comments

askme
askme

@happy_sad
Oh fug. Make sure not to trade fire with the levy infantry. Once they start shooting, retreat from the walls and force them to climb up. After that either shoot them down or just cut them up with superior melee. Make sure to kill the Samurai or they'll ravage all your units in melee.

Playboyize
Playboyize

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7Jm_eUQSYAk

Spamalot
Spamalot

@Booteefool
WH1 Was my introduction to the series. Probably the most fun I've ever had in a strategy game. I've fallen in love with the Warhammer fantasy universe. I've actually started painting miniatures because of how much I enjoy this franchise.

HOWEVER the toxicity of history players makes me want to fucking puke, and when Warhammer ends I won't be returning to Total War.
Fuck all of you.

whereismyname
whereismyname

have 5 stacks of dwarves all on top of each other, facing against about 4 stacks of chaos warriors and warherds
random warherd guy "ambushes" grombrindal, magically teleports him above ground and gets reinforcements to surround him with all 4 enemy flags

Deadlyinx
Deadlyinx

@Spamalot
this is ironic right?

Emberburn
Emberburn

thrones of Britannia

Ugh

lostmypassword
lostmypassword

@happy_sad
@askme
he fell for the levy inf meme
they are so bad

TechHater
TechHater

@viagrandad
@RavySnake

I think it's doable but you would have to limit the spots to select "sites", otherwise the engine couldn't handle it.

Have a province
Province can support X settlements
settlements can be built at specific 'sites' or 'nodes'
each of these places will have individual strengths or resources forcing you to choose what you want to exploit in a province
perhaps provinces can level up much like cities do, allowing for increased settlement slots
settlements can only be created by sacrificing an army or creating a dedicated, slow, vulnerable "settler group" unit that is expensive, immediately loses Auto Resolve, and gives enemies a signifigant resource boost if they sack it en route

It's brushing close to Civ, but I think it could add an interesting dynamic.

eGremlin
eGremlin

@TechHater
This would also be a way to fuck with an enemies control of a province, by settling a region in a province they own, thus dividing control of it. This will encourage aggressive expansion, and aggressive sacking and raiding in retaliation.

Just like in real life!

Stark_Naked
Stark_Naked

@JunkTop
Spear Levy are better early game imo, melee generally beats out levy guns since the levy guns can't inflict enough casualties before they get ass ravaged by a charge.

Inmate
Inmate

@CouchChiller

forcing the based dawi to owe you a coin

You better believe that's a grudging.

@Crazy_Nice

Tyrion can fuck himself but you better be in Thorgrim's good graces, or you know what's going to happen. IT GOES IN THE BOOK

Firespawn
Firespawn

@PurpleCharger
@Harmless_Venom
How can CA allow this when they could just make their games more moddable to begin with so this patreon whoring for what would be in other games mediocre mods wouldn't happen?

Deadlyinx
Deadlyinx

HOLA
O
L
ALOH NECROMANCER

JunkTop
JunkTop

The new Saga game is shaping up pretty good.

Bidwell
Bidwell

@Deadlyinx
cease this posting at once
vile Necromancers are forbidden to expose themselves to the cuteness and warmth that is Skinks

eGremlin
eGremlin

I AM ______ AND _______

farquit
farquit

@eGremlin
feed and seed

haveahappyday
haveahappyday

@eGremlin

OLD
BUSTED

Stupidasole
Stupidasole

@eGremlin
Gay nerd and faglord.

girlDog
girlDog

@Sharpcharm
@cum2soon
@RumChicken
Fuck, you're right, I looked back and it was a haphazard breaking of a treaty to meet a quest. time to roll back a save.

MPmaster
MPmaster

@eGremlin
Impossible to recruit because of ME confederation shenanigans
All the more craved because of it

Seriously how hard do I have to rape another province to get them to confederate with me?

Nude_Bikergirl
Nude_Bikergirl

@TechHater
@eGremlin
Damn why has this never been considered? This would be great for making the campaign have more strategy

FastChef
FastChef

@Nude_Bikergirl
Too many Charlemagnes

History Turks would reeee

Emberfire
Emberfire

ai faction breaks all treaties with me to declare war
abuses military access to immediately take my capital
will likely suffer no diplo penalties because of this despite the fact that this would completely ruin a player's campaign if they did the same

ebin

BinaryMan
BinaryMan

empire building just becomes minmaxing settlement buildings to make sure sanitation/food/public order isn't fucked

ah yes, very fun.

Soft_member
Soft_member

@Emberfire
America here, trusting Japs not to launch a sneak attack? Rookie mistake

Fuzzy_Logic
Fuzzy_Logic

@Soft_member

Stop posting like a Canadian.

Poker_Star
Poker_Star

@eGremlin
HEAD, PAT

Firespawn
Firespawn

@eGremlin

hard and easy

Spamalot
Spamalot

@girlDog
WESSEX
ESSEXW
SSEXWE
SEXWES
EXWESS
XWESSE
WESSEX

w8t4u
w8t4u

@Soft_member
kek

idontknow
idontknow

@Fuzzy_Logic
I'm sorr- FUCK

Techpill
Techpill

@Nude_Bikergirl
They don't want to be too similar to the autismfest that is the Civilization series

Crazy_Nice
Crazy_Nice

@Spamalot
what?

StonedTime
StonedTime

@Crazy_Nice
W

LuckyDusty
LuckyDusty

@Sir_Gallonhead
playing DarthMod
1706
Huron Indians from northern Canada traded moose factory to Prussia for the port of Gdansk
Cherokee nations traded kaintuck for Hungary to Austria
Venice traded Morea (Sparta) to the Iroquois for Michigan
Wtf is going on here

Emberfire
Emberfire

@CouchChiller
@Need_TLC
kek'd hard

Stupidasole
Stupidasole

@LuckyDusty
We tried to warn you about that Empire Total War bro.

idontknow
idontknow

Why is he so based?

TreeEater
TreeEater

Thanquol when??

ZeroReborn
ZeroReborn

@TreeEater
When Skarbrand gets announced

Sharpcharm
Sharpcharm

1:00 AM in Burger time
A time of peace in /twg/
Fascinating.

whereismyname
whereismyname

@Sharpcharm
really makes you think

VisualMaster
VisualMaster

@Sharpcharm
It's 9:30 PM.

Harmless_Venom
Harmless_Venom

@VisualMaster
That's even worse.

Raving_Cute
Raving_Cute

@Sharpcharm
It's 12:30 AM on EST, the only time zone that actually exists

Crazy_Nice
Crazy_Nice

@Stupidasole
It’s super comfy tho, after 1500 hours in Rome 2 and waiting for a sale to buy WH2 it’s super refreshing

Evilember
Evilember

Any tips of making friends?

Spazyfool
Spazyfool

@Evilember
Hammer and anvil

likme
likme

@Evilember
yus bee urself

SomethingNew
SomethingNew

@Evilember
As with real life
Bully their enemies
Never overshadow them
Give them money

FastChef
FastChef

be lizowd
acquired blessed fire bola
literally has enough ammo to kill every model on the map
has like 90 missile damage
160 speed

the strongest man (lizard) in the warhammer universe

CouchChiller
CouchChiller

*saves your franchise*

LuckyDusty
LuckyDusty

@CouchChiller
Welcome to 2010

PurpleCharger
PurpleCharger

play Empire TW
play France
immediately sell new world colonies for 6k a piece

Ignoramus
Ignoramus

@Sharpcharm

It's literally 2:45 PM

viagrandad
viagrandad

play World War 2: Total war; The WARENING
pick France
pick legendary difficulty
surrender turn 2
Long Campaign Victory!

Methnerd
Methnerd

@viagrandad
This post DESERVES reddit gold friend.

^Up vote!!!^

ZeroReborn
ZeroReborn

@Methnerd

t. pierre

Spamalot
Spamalot

@viagrandad
HAHA SO FUNNY user! EPIC POST LMAO

Garbage Can Lid
Garbage Can Lid

@Spamalot
@Methnerd
I liked it.
The French are scum.

PackManBrainlure
PackManBrainlure

ice queen when
gotrek and felix when
vermintide squad when
thanquol when
a lot of other things when

GoogleCat
GoogleCat

honning out loud (hol)

cum2soon
cum2soon

@Sharpcharm
cunt

Sir_Gallonhead
Sir_Gallonhead

@cum2soon
found the burger

JunkTop
JunkTop

@Sir_Gallonhead
if that were true i'd have said puta haha

StrangeWizard
StrangeWizard

living on the east coast
how subhuman can you get

GoogleCat
GoogleCat

@StrangeWizard
All coasts are equally shit in tourist season

Boy_vs_Girl
Boy_vs_Girl

should i build this thing

Evil_kitten
Evil_kitten

@Boy_vs_Girl
building limits are so fucking retarded goddamn, it doesn't make sense from an immersive point and it's not fun from a gameplay point

PurpleCharger
PurpleCharger

@SniperWish
They can be layered in with saurus or chameleon skinks and provide good cc along with damage.

StrangeWizard
StrangeWizard

Huns and Abagasia double team my Sclaveni, the ERE, Sassaboos, and WRE falls to Barbar NATO

intense game

Fuzzy_Logic
Fuzzy_Logic

Total War: Vinland Saga when?

SniperGod
SniperGod

@Boy_vs_Girl
guess thats getting a nerf when KANGZ get released.

SomethingNew
SomethingNew

What's with all the anti-black posts in the Steam forums?

Which one of you is this

GoogleCat
GoogleCat

tfw when I got Elven NATO up and running on turn 15
Officially my best Very Hard Tyrion start. I've got really lucky with starts traits of High Elf factions, almost nobody has Wary and some of them even got Ardent, which to led very easy deals.

Harmless_Venom
Harmless_Venom

@Fuzzy_Logic
isn't that basically what Sagas: Thrones of Brittania is?

Complete with 20 chapters of farming

BunnyJinx
BunnyJinx

Elves = shit
Dwarves = shit
Orcs = shit
Rats = shit
Beastmen = shit

Warhammer = shit

haveahappyday
haveahappyday

@SomethingNew
all fucking niggers must fucking hang

(meme reference)

LuckyDusty
LuckyDusty

give it to me straight, doc, how bad does it look?

eGremlin
eGremlin

@happy_sad
Looks better desu

GoogleCat
GoogleCat

@LuckyDusty
not very good desu my dude

Ignoramus
Ignoramus

@LuckyDusty
The real problem is gonna be those boar boys, who are gonna tear your shit up. Plus you've got no way to shock the orc swarms into routing, and no leadership to keep your men from routing

cum2soon
cum2soon

@Evil_kitten
It's their way of saying, 'we'll never be civ and we're not going to try'

whereismyname
whereismyname

@PurpleCharger
Never ever

I wish they would depict decentralization of power more often in the non antiquity total wars as it would help avoid bloat syndrome. I am sure they will in a Medieval 3 when they do it (and they came out explicitly dismissing the old "we don't do 3s" in a recent FAQ/blogpost) but it'll be fun to have all the HRE principalities or French duchys and dukedoms instead of just "france".

takes2long
takes2long

@cum2soon
medieval 2 didn't have building limits though

RumChicken
RumChicken

@haveahappyday
(meme reference)
were you afraid someone was going to call you racist or something if you didnt point that out user

StrangeWizard
StrangeWizard

@LuckyDusty
You've got a severe case of Rowdy Boyz. Outlook is very bad, the disease is already taking over some of your cities. Should have taken some prophylactic actions, like hiring the general or parking some stack nearby, but it's already too late.

p.s: you should start making drafts of letters for Karl Franz to explain how the fuck you let it happen

Flameblow
Flameblow

@Inmate
Getae or Epirus if you're up for a challenge

RavySnake
RavySnake

@takes2long
It's their way of saying, 'we'll never be civ and we're not going to try anymore'

JunkTop
JunkTop

@Boy_vs_Girl
It's good when you have the province locked down and ready for it. Max out public order and untainted stuff, then build. 30 magic for your skeeenks and slanns is good stuff.

GoogleCat
GoogleCat

@RumChicken
yes its 2017 bigotry must cease

viagrandad
viagrandad

@TreeEater
He's also got the safest start in the game and the lizardmen get fantastic tools to deal with PO and corruption.

Emberburn
Emberburn

@GoogleCat
lol

CouchChiller
CouchChiller

the gold, dwarf, hand it over

DeathDog
DeathDog

@LuckyDusty
Stay right there, I need to call the chaplin

Booteefool
Booteefool

i understand the need to differentiate them from crossbows but does the low damage of handgunners bother anyone else

King_Martha
King_Martha

@Booteefool
DPS is a bit low, but they are very accurate and their armour piercing damage is good. They are hard hitters.

TreeEater
TreeEater

@Booteefool
Honestly I feel like LOS requirements and maybe lengthen reload times would be plenty balance enough.

Need_TLC
Need_TLC

@idontknow
Tempt me not dwarf, my patience grows short

Kek

Vlad actually sounds like a reasonable ruler. I could imagine him showing up and joining the good factions in the stand against chaos

massdebater
massdebater

I run out of ammo way too often.

whereismyname
whereismyname

how does one do ambush as the lizardmen?

Methshot
Methshot

@whereismyname
Hammer and anvil

SniperWish
SniperWish

@massdebater
Probably a good sign that your ranged kept themselves busy during the battle. Do you have any perks on your generals that increase ammo count? There is also some tech in research tree that boosts it.

hairygrape
hairygrape

@Snarelure
It will include him cause it’s gonna be like 860-1100

New_Cliche
New_Cliche

@viagrandad
What are these tools? I'm on turn 199 of my kroq campaign, and even though I wiped vampires and skaven (and orcs) off the map, the entire desert and half my cost is at 75% or high vampire corruption .

BlogWobbles
BlogWobbles

@New_Cliche
You have 2 building that increase untainted by rather a lot (the ones that let you build skink priests).

Heros probably do it to but I never needed it what with having those buildings

Snarelure
Snarelure

@LuckyDusty
yur fuked :DDDD

Crazy_Nice
Crazy_Nice

@whereismyname
idk i got a mission to ambush so i did the ambush stance next to some enemy armies and waited like 3 turns and nothing happened

cum2soon
cum2soon

DLC is for rome2
saga is fucking Charlemagne 2: british edition
next total war is china
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH ROME

but seriously, the saga setting is garbage, its scaled down charlemagne, and its going to have even less variety than that, because guess what? the saxons and the norse fought in pretty much the same manner

Methshot
Methshot

@cum2soon
It will have rich narrative options and personality that Total War gamers have come to love from Warhammer.

Flameblow
Flameblow

@Methshot
both are just buzzwords

Nude_Bikergirl
Nude_Bikergirl

@New_Cliche
The 4/6 PO buildings at T2/3 and the +6 untainted building at T3. One untainted building and a couple of PO ones are enough to keep your provinces from rebelling even on legendary assuming you're not drowning in vampiric osmosis.

Carnalpleasure
Carnalpleasure

@BlogWobbles
@Nude_Bikergirl
I never fully understood what untainted was. Is it just the percentage of your population unaffilliated with any kind of corruption? I have tried every kind of combinations of buildings in my various desert provinces, most of which are tier 5 with a fully upgraded geomantic web, yet the vampirism continues..

Dreamworx
Dreamworx

American Office Building: Total War would be better than fucking vikings.

I. DON'T. WANT. TO. PLAY. BARBARS.

Nude_Bikergirl
Nude_Bikergirl

@Carnalpleasure

Just mod it to be less severe, it's a shitty mechanic implemented by designlets who think waiting and tedium make for a good strategy game.

w8t4u
w8t4u

Someone take pity on this poorfag, and kill me please. I want to play mortal empires but I don't have another $60 to spend on the first Warhammer.

iluvmen
iluvmen

it's another "The Devs don't understand building trees or skill trees and fucks up Bretonnia" episode

God, I am so tired of these episodes. When does the new season start?

King_Martha
King_Martha

@w8t4u
*unsheathes falx*
Now hold still

Carnalpleasure
Carnalpleasure

@Carnalpleasure
untainted was a way for CA to streamline the corruption system, since in wh1 instead of +untainted you got -chaos/vamp corruption. The addition of Skaven corruption likely meant that -vampire/chaos/skaven attrition became a bit too much as a tooltip, and was instead made into "untainted" to simplify things

Fuzzy_Logic
Fuzzy_Logic

before ME
I don't mind of turn times are a bit longer, small price to pay :)
after ME
Uargh fucking turn times take too LONG

TechHater
TechHater

How about a mode where every faction has to collect five SPECIAL ARTEFACTS unique to their race to win the game, and they are randomly distributed to other locations on the map, and whoever controls the region with the artefact owns it, and you have to collect artefacts either through TOTALWAR or negotiation of alliance and sharing. Also Morathi gives everyone big wet kisses.

Methshot
Methshot

@TechHater
how about a game mode where I get laid

Fuzzy_Logic
Fuzzy_Logic

@Harmless_Venom
He wants Vinland. The ultimate meme migration

takes2long
takes2long

@Methshot
you ask the impossibru

Garbage Can Lid
Garbage Can Lid

@Methshot
Thats a fantasy user.

hairygrape
hairygrape

@Sir_Gallonhead
Is there any way to stop shit from transforming in empire? I’ve had to replace my artillery 6 turns in a row now because it keeps downgrading

Sir_Gallonhead
Sir_Gallonhead

After 70 hours of trial and error, I've finally come to terms with the fact that Queek Legendary on Vortex of Power is impossible.

Garbage Can Lid
Garbage Can Lid

@Sir_Gallonhead
lol just get more rats

girlDog
girlDog

@Sir_Gallonhead
git gud

iluvmen
iluvmen

@Carnalpleasure
Is it just the percentage of your population unaffilliated with any kind of corruption?

Pretty much. All types of corruption have a percentage of total relationship rather than a straight additive one.

If you have +15 vampiric osmosis going on a +6 untainted building won't do a whole lot, it's mostly there to give you favourable corruption % in those provinces with +2 vamp from local populace because there's no way to remove that modifier.

Boy_vs_Girl
Boy_vs_Girl

@iluvmen
So where does the vampiric corruption even come from then? I thought it was vampires but I killed literally every single vampire in the ME campaign and yet some provinces have +15 or more vamp corruption.

Boy_vs_Girl
Boy_vs_Girl

@Boy_vs_Girl
black pyramid building and local populace in the land of the dead since kangz aren't there to purge the bloodsucking filth from the holy land

askme
askme

@Boy_vs_Girl
Specifically didn't build the black pyramid, although what you say about local populace must be true. It's just weird, 200 turns into the campaign, fully upgraded cities across the globe, yet the the very first area I took (crater of the dead or similar) is still nearly 100% vamped.

StrangeWizard
StrangeWizard

why do dwarves have to ruin every game

Supergrass
Supergrass

@askme
If you never built any +untainted buildings there even +1 vamp influence from local pop would keep it at 100% vamp corruption. If you do have untainted there and all the nearby vamps are dead it might be a bug.

Skullbone
Skullbone

ai jumps me with this army that had completely ignored my incursion in their territory
these forces were beelining towards the western front where the choshu JUST declared war
if I lose them I lose the west, my capital, and my moneymaking province
AAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHH

Emberburn
Emberburn

Guess we won't be seeing Tomb Kings anytime soon. Maybe after they are finished with advertising Viking shit in late spring but I guess then they will start heavily marketing muh China. Guess that also answers the question whether CA will actually make more than one DLC race or add new starts for Old World races this time

Spazyfool
Spazyfool

@Methshot
Not lore accurate

ZeroReborn
ZeroReborn

@Boy_vs_Girl
You can mouse over the corruption type to see the sources, generally it's buildings, characters, osmosis or local population.

Stark_Naked
Stark_Naked

@Fuzzy_Logic
More like
before ME
Waaaaah why did CA cut all that unimportant stuff ;( turns times don't matter

after ME
Waaaaah why did CA not optimize ME enough, the turn times and performance are too bad ;(

DeathDog
DeathDog

@Fuzzy_Logic
I actually want this now. I really want this.

FastChef
FastChef

give me a better infantry unit than armoured skinwolves

PurpleCharger
PurpleCharger

TW Saga is basically just Britannia campaign from M2 as a standalone

Now watch CA re-release Alexander, Teutonic campaign, New World campaign, Crusader campaign, Warpath campaign, Spanish Guerilla campaign and Rise of the Samurai as brand new (TM) 40€ games

JunkTop
JunkTop

@FastChef
Chosen
Phoenix Guard
Iron Breakers

@DeathDog
It would just be the crew of a few ships vs. a random indian tribe. There weren't any TW worthy battles

Boy_vs_Girl
Boy_vs_Girl

@PurpleCharger
Alexander must extend to Bengal or we riot

Methshot
Methshot

I'm pretty exited about the total saga: VIKANGZ
Then again, I'm a vikingboo and I never played attilla or any of the barbar factions in rome 2, so to me it seems fresh enough.

Any predictions on campaign features and units? Are we going to have a thrall mechanic for the invaders, or some advanced form of vassalization/payed peace offer to simulate danegäld?

If the game runs from the 9th to the 11th century, should we see crossbows used in warfare?

ZeroReborn
ZeroReborn

@JunkTop
I conscript natives and I make the battles

eGremlin
eGremlin

Mini-campaigns are such garbage.

The only decent one is Napoleon because it did a complete overhaul of the gameplay which made multiplayer much more fun. But even there the single player is not worth playing even compared to Empire's broken campaign.

Fuzzy_Logic
Fuzzy_Logic

@Emberburn
Historyfags started crying too loud. Now we'll get to wait another 2 years to get the final map.

Supergrass
Supergrass

what
what the fuck

TurtleCat
TurtleCat

@Emberburn
Ah the American finally woke up.

ZeroReborn
ZeroReborn

@Methshot
the use of crossbows is exciting enough to warrant discussion about it
The absolute state of historyfags

StrangeWizard
StrangeWizard

@Methshot
I'm seriously worried about a Viking game that doesn't have any potential for meme migrations

iluvmen
iluvmen

@StrangeWizard
because they're mountain jews.

Methnerd
Methnerd

@Methshot
I never played attilla
fucking WHY it is a good game, why does nobody play it? If more people played it it would get fucking support instead of rome2 which is getting a fucking $15 dlc 4 years after release while attila has yet to be optimized

Sharpcharm
Sharpcharm

@TurtleCat
What does that even mean? If I were American I'd have to go to bed now laddie

Flameblow
Flameblow

@ZeroReborn
You fantasy fags and your bitching are going to get the general split

farquit
farquit

@ZeroReborn
you're making your side out to look like a bunch of brainlets

lol who cares about historical accuracy, fucking nerds
fucking radious making mods that contradict the lore, muh autism

5mileys
5mileys

Tyrion pulling an Israel

Really makes you think.

Bidwell
Bidwell

@FastChef
armored skinwolves (fast... for a dwarf)

Poker_Star
Poker_Star

@Methnerd
It's a pretty boring period for many people
And someone who already bought R2 before it may not want to dish out another 50€ or whatever it costs now to play more antiquity stuff

Boy_vs_Girl
Boy_vs_Girl

@JunkTop
chosen and PG are better at dealing damage sure, but ironbreakers? they're insanely durable and will never break, but slow as shit and mediocre damage-wise

JunkTop
JunkTop

@Flameblow
@farquit
my side
I'm not on anyone's sidy my dudes
I haven't even touched a TW since Shogun 2, I'm just here to make fun of the lot of you, getting excited over 40€£¥ DLCs posed as "standalone experience" and 15€£¥ races. CA is holding you hostage and you don't even realise it

SomethingNew
SomethingNew

@Methnerd
it's a combination of
Rome 2 launch was terrible
Shogun 2 was excellent, so I just went back to that
Attilla looked like a Rome 2 expansion
then Warhammer got announced and got me interested in total war again.

Its the same as napoleon. After empire I just kept playing med2 until shogun 2

AwesomeTucker
AwesomeTucker

@Bidwell
kek

CodeBuns
CodeBuns

@Boy_vs_Girl
In a pure 1v1, no abilities used or order given, Iron Breakers tend to win. If you interfere and cycle charge the Iron Breakers with your Skin Wolves you'll win handily. It's pretty even

King_Martha
King_Martha

@ZeroReborn
Is osmosis just bleed-over from a neighboring settlement?

SniperWish
SniperWish

JUST

ZeroReborn
ZeroReborn

@Supergrass
The coldblooded dare to thressspasss near the Lothern Gatesss`~!?

PackManBrainlure
PackManBrainlure

@JunkTop
the absolute state of poorfags

RavySnake
RavySnake

Someone post an Empire reskin or recolor that makes them look more well equipped. You'd think by turn 150, someone would've designed a breastplate or two and given them out to the troops at the front.

takes2long
takes2long

@PackManBrainlure

kek

New_Cliche
New_Cliche

@RavySnake
Don't empire state troops wear a half-plate?

LuckyDusty
LuckyDusty

@RavySnake
The armor they wear is adequate, faith will provide the rest. They need to be flexible and be able to march long and move quickly.

askme
askme

The wood elves final stand
The last elder treeman
Died to a rock dropped on his head

Exterminating elves is alright but humiliating them is where it's at.

Gigastrength
Gigastrength

@New_Cliche
it's mostly bits of gambeson and brigandine with a breastplate and maybe helmet iirc, in tabletop terms a 6+ save is pretty much anything less than full chainmail, and a 5+ is anything less than true full plate armour, which as a rule is only available to Empire and Dwarf elites, monsters and Chaos Warriors

Bidwell
Bidwell

@FastChef

0 upkeep blessed saurus

WebTool
WebTool

@RavySnake
state troops are fine, but greatswords should be a lot heavier armoured imo, they're meant to be wearing proper plate armour like knights but they look almost naked in comparison

Evilember
Evilember

@Bidwell
yep, that's me

girlDog
girlDog

Has anyone ever had issues with playing Beastmen/Chaos (or Greenskins) and having the game crash/lock up on the Brayherd or Waaaghs turn?

Was just playing with a friend and his Brayherd was pretty much dead, didn't do anything on it's turn....and then the game died.

Methshot
Methshot

@PurpleCharger
re releasing Alexander
Would buy desu

StonedTime
StonedTime

YABBA GABBA GOOOOOOOOOL

Is Mazdamundi the Tony Soprano of Warhammer?

AwesomeTucker
AwesomeTucker

@PurpleCharger
All those colonies I sold to the natives really helped them out. They are rolling NA.

cum2soon
cum2soon

@LuckyDusty
that is one hundred percent do-able my dude.
firstly back off as far as you can (take a hill) and try and shoot their cav when they come (protect your guns with spears, perhaps leave one free company as bait then move spears in).
after that form a concave line and move your guns around the side to shoot their orcs (you should win the melee with this). take that one unit of shieldless spears and use them to chase around their archers (make sure to group them up)

you can win it like that.

SniperGod
SniperGod

@Supergrass
little bitch ass elf

TechHater
TechHater

@Illusionz
Just be yourself

Fuzzy_Logic
Fuzzy_Logic

@girlDog
Co-op is horribly bugged. Sometimes, quest battles don't pop up at all, including the final vortex battles one. Yet the defeat countdown still applies for the latter. Game is shit.

WebTool
WebTool

@askme
Dropping rocks makes me feel like a tactical genius.

Methnerd
Methnerd

@King_Martha
More or less, it's caused by specific buildings and techs which spread corruption to neighbouring provinces.

Supergrass
Supergrass

get to play as my homeboy Alfred the Great
Tomb Kangz and foundation patch coming soon for ME
New history title in the works for a brand new era
Still have warhams 3 and the combined super duper map around on the horizon

good day for total war mates.

BlogWobbles
BlogWobbles

haven't been playing TW for a year
don't like primitive fantasy shit for kids
only play patrician historical games
go to steam
see that
Wtf is happening? Rome 2 is like 5 years old, why the fuck are they releasing DLC for it? Should I preorder it?

New_Cliche
New_Cliche

@Supergrass
I've been on such a TW high for at least month now. Just reinstalling them all and running like 5 campaigns at once.

Flameblow
Flameblow

@BlogWobbles
why the fuck are they releasing DLC for it?
because they want to milk as much money out of a shit unpolished game as possible

If you preorder you need to kys

CodeBuns
CodeBuns

Is there a total war - and I am asking without irony, completely serious - but is there a game in the series that lets me play an ancient era Israel, throw off the yoke of Rome and establish a militant Hebrew empire in the Levant?

Sharpcharm
Sharpcharm

@BlogWobbles
Because even though it;s shit Rome II has 5 times the active player base of Attila so they're milking what they can.

Emberburn
Emberburn

@CodeBuns
DeI lets you play as Judea in the Augustus campaign.

Gigastrength
Gigastrength

@BlogWobbles
The DLC isn't out yet
DeI already supports it
I love these guys.

Stupidasole
Stupidasole

@VisualMaster
they all have fallen, user

farquit
farquit

@BlogWobbles
cant decide yet what campaign i will play first when it come out
the chad aurelian emperor
qt zenobia queen

its hard

Booteefool
Booteefool

what are my odds here?

StrangeWizard
StrangeWizard

@Booteefool
You literally cannot win.

Emberburn
Emberburn

@StrangeWizard

If I had to bet, he's modded the Lizardmen units to be extremely OP for this single image so that when he autos it shows as a Heroic Victory for him.

Flameblow
Flameblow

@Booteefool

Level 26 Tyrion + full stack

I'd honestly just try to cheese your way with skinks and take out their bolt thrower/eagle or something. If the AI is gonna get an ez win, I usually just manual fight it and try to take out a key unit.

Sir_Gallonhead
Sir_Gallonhead

Alfred the great may well be the greatest monarch in the history of england

The worst? Richard the goatfucker

viagrandad
viagrandad

year of our lord 2017
still no combined roll chart for all the modern TW games

BinaryMan
BinaryMan

@Emberburn
@Flameblow
it was a joke lads

also i think they really want lothern back

VisualMaster
VisualMaster

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ec0XKhAHR5I

Sir_Gallonhead
Sir_Gallonhead

@Sir_Gallonhead
Depends which goat you ask really

w8t4u
w8t4u

rome 2 still random crashing at some points every turn

Lunatick
Lunatick

@w8t4u
Shhh... Rome 2 is flawless.

Techpill
Techpill

will we get hero units in Dynasties: Total War?

Snarelure
Snarelure

@Lunatick
I just waisted 120 turns on my Legendary Baktria campaign, i'm 99% mad right now

Snarelure
Snarelure

@Snarelure
It's working as intended.

GoogleCat
GoogleCat

@Techpill
still takes him like a hundred cuts to kill one knight

lmao chinksbtfo

RumChicken
RumChicken

Chameleon Skinks are pretty darn good. AI is so dumb they just uselessly chase them around while they get darted.

w8t4u
w8t4u

FOUNDATION PATCH WHEN?

Methshot
Methshot

@GoogleCat
he doesn't go through the mail so has to cut off the blood to the Knight's brain. Interesting sequence since the dadao would be pretty useless.

FastChef
FastChef

@w8t4u
NOT FOR ALL DA TEEF IN DA WHIRL

w8t4u
w8t4u

Red tree for Vlad after magic or full yellow?

WebTool
WebTool

@Techpill
Is this real?

Stupidasole
Stupidasole

@Sir_Gallonhead
I have a big problem with Total War games: I never finish my campaigns. I've played most of them (Shogun 1, Rome 1 and Medieval 2 I don't have on steam) but out of all these games I've only finished 1 grand campaign (Total War 2 High Elves).

How do you guys develop the discipline to keep playing when you've basically already won?

viagrandad
viagrandad

@Stupidasole

implying anyone finishes campaigns

Skullbone
Skullbone

@Stupidasole
I don't remember the last time I even bothered to look at the victory conditions, let alone pursued then

SniperWish
SniperWish

@Stupidasole
playing more than 30 turns per campaign

BlogWobbles
BlogWobbles

@w8t4u
today

VisualMaster
VisualMaster

@WebTool
from Marco Polo season 2, the Pope sends some crusaders to ensure the loyalty of a rival Khan to topple Kublai.

Garbage Can Lid
Garbage Can Lid

@w8t4u
Christmas or january

Sir_Gallonhead
Sir_Gallonhead

@viagrandad
@Skullbone
@SniperWish
WHATS THE FUCKING POINT THEN

iluvmen
iluvmen

@Stupidasole
This looks like a fun game to keep me from deciding what TW to boot up.

I wonder how many hours I had in pre-steam TWs.

Sharpcharm
Sharpcharm

@Sir_Gallonhead

he thinks there is a point to anything in life

Snarelure
Snarelure

@VisualMaster
Is that historically accurate?

Illusionz
Illusionz

@Sir_Gallonhead
Hammer and anvil

Soft_member
Soft_member

@Sir_Gallonhead
I've finished a couple, mainly in TWW 1. I mostly quit since I often work myself into a corner and never save. The only real point in finishing campaigns is that you sometimes unlock new heroes to play in custom. I'm not quite sure with the others that I have (Rome 2 and Attilla) Haven't finished one yet.

likme
likme

Stuff I guess

https://www.totalwar.com/blog/thrones-of-britannia-878-ad

Supergrass
Supergrass

@likme
How many mentions of Wessex?

King_Martha
King_Martha

@likme
To the north in Scotland, the Gaels have overtaken the Picts and the two branches of the Alpinid dynasty vie for control of what is known as Alba.
Can't wait to oust Pict FUCKS

Firespawn
Firespawn

@Supergrass
Tomb Kangz are 2018 release and warhammer 3 is basically guaranteed to be a 2019 release

Sir_Gallonhead
Sir_Gallonhead

@Snarelure
No Western Europe didn't see the golden horde as a threat of the same magnitude as the muslims and generally the golden horde was a bigger problem for the muslims and Orthodox eastern countries which suited western Europe so long as trade stayed open.

Fuzzy_Logic
Fuzzy_Logic

I like AI stacks.

Stupidasole
Stupidasole

@Soft_member
I've only ever completely finished one campaign, and that was as the Date Clan in Shogun 2.

takes2long
takes2long

@Fuzzy_Logic
SWORDSMANII!

Methnerd
Methnerd

@Spamalot
timestamp or you are not Darren for me

lostmypassword
lostmypassword

Stuff for fantasy, I guess...
https://twitter.com/totalwar/status/768104126320345089

New_Cliche
New_Cliche

@lostmypassword
BASED!

haveahappyday
haveahappyday

@lostmypassword

That's going in the book

Garbage Can Lid
Garbage Can Lid

@lostmypassword
TOMB KINGS HYPE

viagrandad
viagrandad

@lostmypassword
It's been too long, you truly are my old friend ™

Bidwell
Bidwell

Ok this is fucking ridiculous. I've been trying to decide for like 2 hours now.

1-3 - Jutes in Attila
4-6 - Skarsnik in WH
7-9 - Seleucids in Rome 2
0 - Shoot bugs or something. I dunno.

New_Cliche
New_Cliche

@likme
In Wales, king Rhodri the Great has died after uniting the lands, his territory divided amongst his sons who each look to follow in the footsteps of their father and rule as King of the Britons, but also deal with a resurgent Wessex.

Wales Bowl or Wales NATO will be fun.

Methnerd
Methnerd

@lostmypassword
the rivalry of Volkmar the Grim and literally who

Fried_Sushi
Fried_Sushi

@Bidwell
I swear to fucking god I'm going to kill myself.

Soft_member
Soft_member

@Stupidasole
I could only finish short campaigns in Shogun 2

Bidwell
Bidwell

@PurpleCharger
some faggot from my country is getting above average salary for "making" (aka shifting premade assets and changing their colours) imbalanced ahistorical/lore shitting units

I hate the internet.

massdebater
massdebater

How do I get the fantasy factions in Rome II? I thought I just had to plug in one cartridge on top of the other like the old Sonic 3 & Knuckles trick but then I realised I didn't have any cartridges and games haven't had them for 20 years.

cum2soon
cum2soon

@Fried_Sushi
Welp, nope. That save is dead I guess.

FastChef
FastChef

start game
lose interest after 7 turns
close it
I dont think this semen slurping game is for me anymore

BunnyJinx
BunnyJinx

Who are these mad lads by the way? I see Ned Stark has grown a moustache on the right there.

whereismyname
whereismyname

@BunnyJinx
from their look i would say from left to right :
Dane
Wales
Wessex
Irish
Pict

Lord_Tryzalot
Lord_Tryzalot

@BunnyJinx
prolly

some viking shitter
Anarawd ap Rhodri
Alfred the Great
Eochaid mac Rhun or Giric mac Dúngail
Flann Sinna

iluvmen
iluvmen

Vlad Von Carstein Beard Collector.

Flameblow
Flameblow

@iluvmen
Isabella is a beard
N-nani?

FastChef
FastChef

@SniperGod
This is what I imagine Victoria: Total War to be.

RavySnake
RavySnake

@BunnyJinx

Why is that man on the left wearing makeup?

JunkTop
JunkTop

new /vg/thread/195704430#p195704430

RumChicken
RumChicken

@GoogleCat
Good luck confederating :')

likme
likme

@BunnyJinx
Right to left:

Brian Boru
Ivar
Alfred the Great
Osberht
Eogan

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