Everything Etrian Odyssey (References, Music, Art Books, etc.)
Everything Etrian Odyssey (References, Music, Art Books, etc.)
Nènè is bènè
You know what it's time for
Did mad shit on the mattress.
I have no idea how you're supposed to beat Hippogryph without a pugilist.
chain blast replaces bind pugilists
le epic volt chain abuse
Alright no more fucking around.
Time for some real discussion.
Which stratum wud u fuck
what's the giraffe for
gas the /d/egenerate.
It's weird, with EOIV and EOV I was content with having to make my own party ala classic mode but with EOU and EO2U I find using the story mode party's much more fun.
Whoops don't know how I got that name there.
OP is a retard
EO4 is the highest rated Etrian Odyssey game.
Does charge work with Ricky’s guns?
4 more days
Yeah, if the rating scale goes from 100 to 1! Hahaha!
and yet it's barely half of an etriam game
mystery dungeon is rated higher than 1 and as high as 2 lol
Bump, is it worth it at lvl 9 or should I use Turning Tide instead?
I'm not gonna watch shit.
person doesn't like dungeon crawlers and thought it would be one she wouldn't enjoy
music was the best part
classes are gr8
did not like the lolis
Pretty much she's a heretic
im gonna try replaying without second names
did not like the lolis
females are degenerates as usual
Man, Etreant was piss-easy in EO:U, was he more difficult in EO?
Actually no. He's harder in EOU.
Also, what was your party/levels?
About 66 due to me trying get those damn gold furs for some time. Is that way too high?
Well, then it looks like Raquna Bravery’s Giftin’ constantly while the others bladt fire makes the boss a joke
Bravery's Gift was one of the best skills for tanks ever made in this game.
*Blast fire formulas
Whelp, time to get rekt by Alraune
There's nothing to post.
This is why you don't use worst girls
Return to 29F to do some exploring
Full team of 99r99, this should be a joke to clear
Trash pack of
2 x Dreamray, 1x backline Lemur
I decide to delay for a turn so I can cast Medicinal Lick to restore some health
Glacial Tail + Glacial Tail (Copycat) + Glacial Tail + Glacial Tail (Copycat)
You have (one turn) to clear out these sixth stratum mobs, or you're fucked.
im a little disappointed to hear that even 99r99 cant survive consecutive glacial tails
Good night thread
Respecing my SB Dragoon, BB Pug, CD Fencer, MH Botanist, and DH Shaman now that I hit Level 70. Any suggested class changes?
You will never be one of flatmancer's wraiths.
I'd like to try
Second from left is my favorite
NOT FROM THE LEFT
too late, no takebacks
everyone asking for party advice is trying to make a Chain meme party
Did people forget the joy of creating your own party or what?
The joy of being told 40 hours in that your team's not good enough to beat all the enemies and that you have to reclass
Are we finally going to see what Yuji looks like?
They went full retard and locked up 80% of your skillset after 40 hours of play.
name ONE party that can't beat the main game
Hard mode: no reclassing
Dante Must Die mode: 5 members
You need a Protector, Medic and Troubadour.
He's talking about EOV
well they did say all enemies so it has to be able to beat star devourer i assume
anyway ill try my hand at dmd
rover necro bot
Where would you hide your ariadne thread? Amd would it be safe?
Same person? You wot m8?
40 hours to get to stratum 3
Are you one of those streamers that grinds to level 50 before hippogryph?
Who the fuck are these people
EOVI spoilers, that's the shopkeeper and guildmaster
5 potato botanists
Jesus Christ how horrifying.
Only worst girl there is glasses gunner
is that a-
yeah that's probably a dumb goreposter
All these people still complaining about second names locking up your skillset
As if base abilities are sufficient for almost every class
As if this isn't the best subclass system we've had yet
being this retarded
Harbinger before Titles
all you need
needing wilting miasma before titles
More like all you have
what's the best way to go about fucking a bunny etriambros
reminder that the old thread is still up
Quickshot-kun was way too eager to make a new thread
gotta show those /sqg/ boogeymen that they're ruining the general by ruining the general
1. get cyanide
2. drink it you filthy zoophile
Ayumu is fine too.
making the new thread at 730 became a thing
now it's 630
We should aim for 530 next.
Harb is one of the worst, if not THE worst, classes before titles, but it's a really unusual outlier.
I want her to rub my face with those gloves
After that, 430
Wilting Miasma is solid gold for Chain Killer teams though, and most of the Reap skills hit whole rows.
not making new thread as soon as someone replies
open Veeky Forums
entire board consists solely of etrian threads
Pretty sure there'd be more than a couple bans for that, but it's a funny thought
With auto-miasma, wilting miasma and ATK debuff being part of their basic kit, I'd say they're quite okay.
Necro and rover have rougher starts, at least in how much they can do and for how long they can keep it up.
You don't get chain killer before titles.
We already did that at 500 once. It succeeded.
you mean 180
I hate this meme.
Necro and Rover have rougher starts
Wraith Cry + Fierce Shield is half of the reason I'd use Necro ever, and even at 99r99 it's sometimes all my Necros ever use, maybe Banefire Breath too.
Rovers get access to Hunter Shot, Aid Command and Target Arrow before titles, and Wing Thrash does fairly good damage in the second Stratum. I actually think that Rovers are some of the better classes before titles.
actually think that Rovers are some of the better classes before titles.
The throne is still for Pugilist
Was it? I'm pretty sure I let the thread stay overnight before starting a new one.
Or maybe it's a different event. Shitthreading is free and 730-kun has been doing it for over a month now.
When do these games get "comfy"? I stress out even in earlier stratas because of random encounters and the only time I feel safe is in the town. I always heard these games were peak comfy though
6 days till EO6. Or EO3U, whatever.
Believe it or not, the last 2 threads were not made by me
I'd say all melee classes, and even warlocks and herbalists, are more useful and have more of their kit unlocked before second names.
Fierce shielding in the second stratum got my ghosts killed faster than I could summon them, not really worth it.
They still get poison, defense buff and healing, but that's more of a patch than actual full utility, specially compared to what they do after they unlock more skills and have the TP to keep it up.
when you git gud
How do i git gud? I barely understand the combat system and feel like I'm fucking myself choosing abilities that just seem helpful
It actually is though, their healing is still relevant by then, they have binds and debuffs and can deal enough damage. And if you run dog you don't even get anything too important after second names. Rovers are in fact one of the best choices as pre second names team member.
Some of the better =/= the best.
You can make an argument for Masurao being better, since 1Kats still cast Armour Pierce and High Ground until the very end of the game. Both Pugi specs really want something out of their second names, thought Thunderfist is undeniably exceptional.
I guess it depends on whether you're measuring based on how intact the kit is vs how strong they are in the first two strata, in which case I think I'd vote for Fencers being stronger than Pugilists.
All melee classes
No. Cannon dragoon doesn't even vaguely exist until titles. Harbinger is the worst pre-title class in the game. Warlocks suffer terribly until titles. Botanists are good though, that's true.
Fierce shielding kills the ghosts faster than I could summon them
You only use Fierce Shield vs FoEs, and you're only using it to buy you turns. You don't care if the Wraiths die, that's the point.
Magic Defense buff
Don't cast this, ever.
I barely understand the combat system
It's a turn based RPG, what are you struggling to understand?
Choosing abilities is hard
It actually is sometimes, but here's what you need to be asking yourself: does this ability SOUND USEFUL, or is this an ability THAT YOU WILL BE CASTING?
Ephemeral Reap sounds really cool, but in practice you won't get any use out of it on a standard Deathguard Harbinger. Bloody Reap sounds garbage, but in practice it's a really useful ability to have. Double Punch sounds like it's incredible, but you don't want to use your basic punches when you have access to Clinch so it ends up being 10 wasted skill points.
Does that make sense? Don't look at an ability and think "Oooh, a healing spell! That's neat!", you should be thinking "In the course of play, am I actually going to be healing in combat, or am I going to be trying to end random fights before I need in-combat healing?".
more like asking skill calculator because ingame info is the worst implementation of skill info like ever
I completely forgot buster cannon is in a way melee.
You've completely missed my point.
If you look at an ability like Sanctuary, you might "Wow, blocking status ailments and binds? My favourite!", but in practice you're never going to ever use it, ever, because it takes too long to set up, requires buffs to be in play, and removes the buffs in the process.
Meanwhile, Miasma Wall is one of the best ability in the game because it occurs at the start of the turn, with no setup required, and exists outside of buffs and debuffs.
You don't need to look at a guide to figure out why Miasma Wall is better.
why are you so autistic
I actually forgot about that hippocunt post. Had me doubled over
Asking why I'm autistic
When you're literally posting on a chinese picture forum about loli vidya
I have literally nothing better to do with my time than to be an autist, wbu?
whataboutism isn't an argument, sweetie
But... I'm not making an argument. We're not having an argument.
Why are you looking for a fight, sugar plum? Can you just have a glass of water and calm down?
sounds like you had a troubled childhood
your face had a troubled childhood
Her mouth is like a slightly distorted heart. If that's not evidence for dumb bunnys' pureness I don't know what is.
that's more like a kidney
it's a bean
More like a kidney bean of some sort
This is how doors were meant to be mapped.
When is the stream anyway?
How do you setup Lures with the Fencer. Predict + Ray of Light?
This makes me physically ill.
good, finally we found a weapon to end all autism
Second best shopkeep prepared to finally remove salad
Which one is the best?
Don't say Meme-Edie
"Everything is a meme" meme
Meme this you lolibba
What the fuck was her problem?
playing reddetrian reddissey
You had a male in your party.
her family has too much money and power
i'd kys myself if i was stuck in eo3 as well
How do I reach 15F?
Is retiring really necessary in V? Im at level 70 cap right now and wonder if I should retire my main squad.
Only for star devourer if you're not using a meme comp
You need to west of the--
Retiring in necessary for wanking off your 99r99 stats and for maxing out passives that you've always wanted but never had the points to skill up.
And whats the meme composition?
Is my team of ShieldD, ChainF, DRover, HShaman and Omni meme team?
I also managed to train all up to level 70, without spending a single skillpoint (except few racials) Deathguard Harburgerbringer, Zombie Powder Necro, Barrage Pugi, 1Kat Masauro and 420 Botanist. Also have around level 40 Elemancer, Bunny Fencer, Elven Botanist and Elven Punisher Shaman.
use the up stairs on 14f
Any team with either Fencer is a meme.
Meme team is 2 or 3 Therian Impact pugi and supports
Your team is solid but you're gonna need chain all and shield dragoon will be absolute dead weight and you need to respec your warlock to elemancer
Does this look like okay 70 skillpoints build for Barrage Pugilist? Im not sure since there are so many skills that would be important and so little skillpoints.
Why Chain All? And why Shield Dragoon is bad? And why Omnimancer is bad?
For chain all and omnimancer: SD consists of multiple regenerating parts
For shield dragoon: his strongest attack(not counting full burst) goes before shield skills
But whats the problem with Omnimancer? She can still activate chains on multiple parts with pierce AOE.
you aren't going to land any ailments with that shit unless you do clinch all the time but then you may as well just not put so many points into the individual skills. skip clinch entirely if you aren't a bind bitch for a 4kat and invest more points into the individual binds and status ailment up
I thought that Clinch + Breather is good for Leading Blow damage increase. And maxed bind attack skills only means 10% higher chance to land. What Im missing?
Looking at things objectively, EOU2 is the best game in the series.
Please give your reasoning
i can't see the game behind all the hp bloat
it's 10% per hit and you do two with 1-2-punch plus you're missing out on stat atk up. clinch is nice if it works but most of the time it doesn't, not even with black mist. I don't really like pugilists in general except for random encounters where you have enemies weak to binds and they typically die while bound. against bosses you just waste black mist and use clinch and it binds one part at best and that's it. chain blast just does a much better job and frees up a slot for a class that can actually deal damage
So it goes like this instead?
leave leading blow and cork screw at 5 and put those 10 into arm crusher and low blow imo. with some luc gear you're gonna be landing ailments comfortably when you do 1-2-p
Other than housewives, which etrian would make the best wife?
Do you also know how to properly build smoke botanist as well? I thought that barrage pugi is skill point intensive but holy shit.
Also, would that be kinda okay Smokebomb build for reclassed Celestian?
Apart from Character Level and Wraith Mastery, does Wraith damage scale off of anything from the Necromancer (for example, their weapon or INT)?
Don't be a pussy and max overexertion.
It doesn't, I don't think wraith stats scale from the summoner's
x1.65 damage and 12% max hp cost per strike
x2 damage and fucking 50% max hp cost per strike
Hmm. That's disappointing. I tried using an Auto Roar Dragoon who Counter Guards and Grave on the Dragoon. Surprisingly it worked nicely, but with a maxed out Grave and Wraith Mastery the damage wasn't all that special.
Needing health when the enemy will be BTFO with that 2x damage
Pugilist do more damage when they are low on health.
the old thread hasn't hit 730 posts yet and is still up
Pugilist do more damage when they are low on health.
Impact ones does. Barrage dont.
That's only a problem if you're doing a solo Pug run.
Well you should start using impact then because they're much better.
Honestly this unless you're going for like a chain killer team or something. The damage is so sexy user and it all works so well.
I dont really see that, to be honest. Maxed Fortitude, Overex and then just Titan Killer all the day?
RIP General. I enjoyed the activity but that has dwindled now. See you in 3-4 years when we get another EO.
get another EO
At least let me pretend.
This is how I remember it when I found this place
I'll keep lurking for a bit longer. I want to see the reaction to the stream, no matter how disappointing it is (again) Maybe we'll get EMD3
Pretty much. Maybe Thunderfist if you're up against a volt weak enemy and Soul Crusher for mobs. Titan Killer with that set up will be 1800% damage which off of a therian (or earthlain I guess) will be fantastic.
You can also cast overexertion on other party members if you have the enemy on lockdown and you can still invest in the binding skills if you want a bit of control as well.
There is going to be another 3DS EO game though. Of course, it'll be forever Japan only but still.
Maybe we'll get EMD3
the great ass explosion when EMD2 was announced
It was so delicious. I somehow feel like they did it on purpose, that sea view and all
It's going to be localised at some point, stop being retarded.
they obviously did
Anyone know if there's a higher quality version of this? I know it's from one of the Famitsu covers a year ago, but I can't find a version without all the magazine text other than this one.
I mean, the sales of Atlus 3DS games have been dwindling, and Etrian's never set the Western charts on fire. I'm sure we'll get it in English eventually, but for all we know, it might be another Persona 2: Eternal Punishment PSP situation.
How is the rest of the team anyway?
Reminder Atlus only gives a shit about persona and SMT. Enjoy your PQ2 in 3 days and etrian characters being cameos from now on
cute girls ⭐_⭐
So why is Arken on earth anyway?
throw out that bolt slash (or helm splitter if you don't have a way to reliably up hit/immobilize/petrify) and get sword god to max. you could even go all out on petal scatter if you don't have any good aoe damage
Because Arken are evolved humans that chill around in universe and seed random planets with life giving trees and then sit around until the race in question gets strong enough to join Arken in their neverending quest.
She wants to find a man on her own.
no fighting prowess
More like degenerated salads.
evolution minimizes effort, it doesn't maximize performance
So they became tentaclehorned breeding monsters
i want to season a salad
What kind of dressing will you use?
3bab: the seasoning
How does one beat Taurus Demon properly?
I mean, while doing this neverending farming for money on 26F FOEs, I began wondering if I can simply Fair Trade those 9999hp Wraiths on this guy but he is too vital for that.
So I get that the rest is fine?
Just legbind them and blow them up. And if you use buffs be careful since they summon a small enemy that can use a skill like clear breath.
use gold pine resin and plunging attack him
not having him backhop off the bridge to his doom
Step up senpai
Heh considering what the 6th stratum is this is pottery.
using the roll glitch
Kick out the Botanist and get the elemental Prayers (at any level), Dance Oracle and Counter Guard.
A Warlock would be nice for INT-based damage and more Chain activators.
I was talking about actual dodge rolling mate.
No Fang, don't smell that!
I'll try it out, thanks.
use arm bind, it won't stop his attacks but it will halve the damage, making them survivable. Or just panic him.
using Ephmemereal Reap
using Memester Cannon
using Fierce Memeld
Whats the problem with Empy Reap?
Seriously, how YOU build good Deathguard then?
using the meme meme
playing Memetrian Odyssmeme
it is physically impossible to build a good deathduard
And best possible one?
It's a good thing Etrian Odyssey is digital software then haha
he bought digital
haha no I didn't but it's just digital 0s and 1s so it's not real
falling for the physical meme
>falling for the digital meme
bind pugilists are just shit in general and easily replaced with chain blast
leading blow is replaced by chain blast
You guys make it sound like I'm somehow inferior for buying digitally
leading blow doesn't do that great damage and you rarely get to use it for more than two turns and especially not for 3 or 4 hits
just 0s and 1s
buying digitally is for cucks
Easily replaced by a five-person Union Skill
Okay, here are the problems with that statement.
1) Chain Blast has a seriously long cooldown.
2) Black Mist + Clinch has comparable, and sometimes greater, bind rate when compared to Chain Blast
3) Barrage Pugilists deal powerful damage in their own right
4) Barrage Pugilists are such powerful supports that I've even seen people use Barrage Pugilists on teams that are ALSO using Impact Pugilists, or that are ALREADY using Chain Blast
5) Two of the four high damage archetypes in EOV want a Barrage Pugilist for Black Mist + Sleep Gas.
Leading Blow's damage isn't that great
((225 x 3) + 240) x 1.5 = 1372.5% damage.
It deals a fucking ludicrous amount of damage at maximum power.
But its good. 60% chance for each bind/aliment skill you know so if you are lucky, thats 3 bonus activations. If binds lands, Leading Blow gets boost in damage. Overall, its actually very solid and self-sufficient.
And Impact? Always requiring somebody to protect her due to whole "living on the (hp) edge" style.
But people told me to not use Clinch due to poor inflict rate.
Im seriously torn apart, since I dont like resting at high levels. Even if thats "backup" team.
that's ass backwards, clinch has one of the highest bind inflict rates in the game
each bind/ailment skill
OTP can't activate Corkscrew
individually, and then it has to roll again for the bind to actually land
1's and 0's are just a computers representation of positive and negative voltage that is fed into the circuit haha
yes and it very rarely gets to maximum power and even then barrage doesn't do much damage so even a high multiplier doesn't help
clinch doesn't work half the time even with black mist, it's just a waste of union gauge half the time. if you're running a burst damage party that's not chain killer then chain blast will serve you much better
you have like 9 save slots. try out both and see for yourself. I didn't make good experiences with clinch but maybe you will
if we shitpost this thread really hard it might actually die before the previous one
finally got to the multicolored teleport section anons were posting about in EOV
decide to grab the take point first
"This is the story of Yggdrasil"
by focusing on the more supportive aspects, like wilting, eroding, and occasionally atonement and miasma wall, with endless shroud maxed out, to ensure that every debuff refresh comes with a free use of atonement or miasma wall
Condition: kill with curse damage
Who the fuck thought it would be good idea? Seriously, those demonic FOEs in 5th Stratum, its yet another time when I reduce their hp to tiny amounts and simply wait because they receive like 100 dmg from curse and it wears off quickly.
And then that sole point in Fencer counter skill I picked at very first levels ruins everything.
66% chance it have is still pretty nice.
bring a level 1 with you
it is nice but it's rather underwhelming compared to chain blast's 150% AoE. considering it's 1 SP versus 10. (or 16 if we count pre-reqs.) that's ultimately the reason I don't care for barrage, it's way too much SP hogging for everything. I'd rather just run something like hunter shot if I need binds against mobs and not have to worry about my pugilist doing 0 damage because she's arm bound or getting owned because she's leg bound immediately afterword.
doesn't know the most basic clinch > breather combo
10th attempt to get conditional curse drop
Litteraly pixel HP left
Could it be? Could it be?
Dog attacks for 80 dmg, kills him
People told me not to use Clinch
Those people are objectively wrong. Clinch does less damage than OTP (duh), but is VASTLY more reliable. It also allows you to perform the Clinch -> Breather -> Leading Blow rotation, which is a seriously dumb amount of damage.
Very rarely gets to maximum power
It doesn't need to. Titan Killer has a 600% damage mod. Leading Blow with only two binds is 825%.
Barrage doesn't do much damage so even a high multiplier doesn't help
You've never even fucking used one, have you? Barrage Pugilists have a 4 STR growth, Impact Pugis have a 6 STR growth. They're not that far apart. It's a difference of 8 points at level 99.
Curse damage is still easier to do than killing the Zombie Dragon from a combustion of the fog.
needing 3 turns to kill a random mob
It's shit. Why would I waste 3 turns on a RNG skill when I could easily kill everything in 2 turns or 1 without it? What is the point of using a charge skill on turn 2 when everything is dead (or near-dead) on turn 3? It's pointless. Clinch + Breather is only useful against bosses and FOEs in which case a single chain blast is sufficient.
Using breather the next turn doesn't prevent monsters from attacking you when you're leg bound before the skill activates.
guys, DH isn't even good because you don't have 3 binds most of the time
this is how dumb you sound
You've never even fucking used one
I did, their damage sucked compared to real damage classes.
dhs do outrageous damage with 3 binds, pugilists just average
using strong combos on random encounters
Okay, it's time to stop giving you (You)s.
So I’ve been using barrage pugilist with 1-2, maxed invidual blows, maxed lead blow, and maxed lash out because 1-2>lash is very efficient for exploration and isn’t all that bad on damage. Once I hit 99r99 and have less tp issues should I drop lash out and focus clinch, breather, and lead blow?
Is there a reason to keep a shaman a brownie? I want a celestrian busty enchanter goddess or somesuch
500% higher damage than buster meme (a lot more if gou account for 2 turns)
They are faster and have great Union skills.
Celestrians are so slow your Shaman will often contribute nothing at all in random battles since everything is dead before she moves.
500% * 10 > 250% * 100
Chain Killer activates until everything was binded
Chunk the boss for over 50% of its health
You must have been doing something seriously wrong. I can get my (Earthlain) Barrage Pugilist to hit for well over 15k with Leading Blow. If I were to go all-out and min/max his damage to the limit, I have no doubt that I'd be able to reach above 25k.
In fact, I think I'm going to go ahead and do exactly that right now.
if your base damage is shit then 500% doesn't increase it by much compared to if your base damage was not shit
You've finally expanded your mind, young one.
Properly executed, that strategy with double Fencer will overkill on Turn 1.
buster meme has low damage
It's a meme because it takes too much setup per use
Leading blow takes 1 or 2 if you're using clinch, and can be used more than once in a row
Fair, but what if your "base damage" (I think you mean attack stat) was only 8 points lower than an Impact Pugilist?
Barrage Pugilists have HIGHER attack than Dragoons because they aren't limited by having one of the lowest damage ultimate weapons in the game. Quite the opposite, in fact, Polydeuces is the third highest attack ultimate weapon and the second highest physical attack weapon, beaten out only by Fillia's Zhezl and Ameno Habakiri.
clinch doesn't bind anything without black mist, it's basically a wasted turn that could be used to deal actual damage. why would I waste a turn on clinch one target and leading blow one target the turn after when I can just petal scatter and kill the entire field? and against bosses I can just use chain blast and have more than twice the chance to bind all parts with no self bind draw back.
buster meme has low damage
I was implying the opposite
I don't know about endgame because I subbed mine out for another dragoon in stratum 5 but until then they always lagged behind in damage
Not an argument. I was talking about mobs. Because that's what I said in the first place. Because mobs are the only instance where Chain Blast's union gauge is an issue.
So how does the scenario go with 2 fencers?
Fencer A follows through with Killer and lands a bind under Binding Force
Fencer A goes again until done
Fencer B follows through for every bind that proc'd
Fencer A follows with Killer and lands bind
Alternates to Fencer B who follows from the ailment as well and lands bind
Fencer A now has to activate Killer from his own bind + Fencer B's bind and vice versa.
The link for the undub luma for the english eo5 is dead. Anyone know where I can undub my game?
Not him but why the hell are you all guys acting like if boss battles takes 5 turns max? Sure, with "meme builds" of level 99 characters with top weapons but Im thinking about actual rest of the game.
Actually, Im pissed off everytime I try to figure out optimal way to deal with the game and all I get is "its not as OP as other solutions for muh 99 team with best weapons so its shit".
My party of level 67 needed 18 turs total to kill Tyrant (and survived only by landing binds in critical moments) but everytime I asked, all I got was "lol he dies in 1 turn to muh 99 Chain Killer team".
It doesn't need to. Titan Killer has a 600% damage mod. Leading Blow with only two binds is 825%.
True, but Impact Pugil gets the passive that increases their damage by 50% when their HP is <50%. Dats huge.
Yours is not an argument. You're comparing a heavy damage skill with conditions to a fucking random encounter clear skill. It's obviously only for bigger and stronger monsters you idiot. Or what, are you gonna complain that Ecstacy is shit because it takes too many TP and doesn't deal enough damage to random encounters without spending at least a turn to fully bind the enemy? If you want to clear random encounters you use Thunder Fist, simple as that.
Why you want undub? English voices are fine and actually dont need to turn the voice off in public to avoid people's reaction to japanese moaning.
english voices are fine
playing 3ds in public
I didn't realize there was going to be so much voice acting when I bought the game. If I knew there was going to be audio in every fight I might have opted to pirate the patched cia.
English voices are fine
What the hell is the demo doing at the timecode when painting wall?
You can just, you know, not give any voices to your characters like you've been doing for 5 games already.
Whats wrong with playing 3DS in public?
I was playing my NDS at uni back at engineer tier studies and two times girls from group asked about the game I played and was actually listening with interest about EO and dungeon crawlers. Another proof that games are not only for guys, girls are interested with them too.
Clinch doesn't bind anything without Black Mist
Clinch is the HIGHEST bind rate basic ability in the entire game (outside of Sky Dive, but lmao Sky Dive).
Chain Blast has more than twice the bind rate of Clinch
Factoring in the exceedingly large LUC growth of Earthlain as well as Status Attack Up, Black Mist + Clinch has a higher bind rate than Chain Blast unless the person casting Chain Blast has Status Attack Up themselves.
Or is a Rover... for some strange reason???
Barrage Pugilist was lagging behind in damage on the fifth stratum
Possibly because of an awkward skill build. There's no denying the fact that Leading Blow is INCREDIBLY skill point hungry.
I want the jap voices.
They're shit too. Like yeah they got different VAs for each option, but they all sound the fucking same, at least the female voices, like in the dub. Male voices are (un)surprisingly the only good ones in both languages.
It's an additive 50%, not a multiplicative 50%. It's one of the better offensive passives in the game, but it's not as good as it sounds.
Everyime I asked all I got was "lol lvl 99 team"
You probably got responses like "18 turns is a fucking joke, is your team five botanists?". I don't understand how it's possible for you to take 18 turns to deal 35k damage at level 67, you literally needed to be averaging less than 2k damage per turn.
We're acting like boss battles take around five turns because both times I've played through EOV at this point, almost every boss fight ends in about five turns.
I simply asked if anyone knew where to get it patched. No idea why you're going off topic and trying to convince me the voices are shit.
You're just wasting your time on something that is unnecessary and of bad quality anyway. I'm warning you.
It's an additive 50%, not a multiplicative 50%. It's one of the better offensive passives in the game, but it's not as good as it sounds.
It's free damage for a class that already does a shitload of damage. As long as it's more than the weapon passives, it's gud.
Chain Fencer was dealing a lot less damage than usual but against 5th stratum FOEs she was not doing more than 5k dmg per turn anyway (Chain Plus + Target Arrow + Ruin Prayer + Dance Oracle + activations from Rover, Shaman oracle and Omnimancer spreaded Fireball, at best something like 5 activations, with 800-1100 dmg per activation).
Against Tyrant, she was doing 800 dmg at best, without Oracle, stll with applied Target Arrow and Ruin Prayer. With Oracle, 1000. But still, even with maxed Chain Double, it was not activating everytime, I would say something like 1/3 of the time. So yeah, the avarage was around 2k damage per turn.
What heavy damage skill? I'm comparing Chain Blast to Clinch. Buster faggot is some other guy. The point is that against bosses Clinch is outclassed by Chain Blast and against mobs it's outclassed by virtually everything - damage skills or other binding skills which don't cripple the user and render them inert on turn 2. Which is when you brought up the whole "combo" nonsense.
What happens if I download a japanese patched cia when I already have an existing US file?
wasting union on chain blast if you can clinch
I'd rather just Clinch the enemy and then use All-Out Attack for a reliable Stun once the binds are gone. This tactic has been working well for me.
1000 with Oracle
Is that a level 1 Dance Oracle?
Nintendo Police will find your house and ninjas will invade with mustard gas.
Teach dont have a lolibody
Teach can have whatever body you need.
I'm not worried about legal issues, I'm wondering what happens with an existing save.
I ended up using a formaldehyde on those guys. It's just not worth the effort.
Nothing. Save files are separate between regions. Sometimes they can work if injected to the other games (although it doesn't with EO, as far I know), but they're still stored in a different place.
Shit, I can't find a single patch online, everything's been prepatched. Do I just bite the bullet and restart?
Teach is so great
How many hours are you in to it?
Noy far at all, just feels awful that I'd have to delete and pirate a game I legitimately purchased.
Turn voices off and pretend they were never in the game to begin with.
Now this is the true etrian odyssey
So once again, is everything all right with those @farquit
I really feel like putting the difficulty down to standard for the Flame Demon fight simply because of the hp bloat+lack of amrita plus annoying fight. Even with faffy I feel like the damage output doesn't match the hp bloat that expert provides. Ideally I'd have the hp reduced whilst keeping the damage taken/dealt from expert.
Flame demon isn't even HP bloat, the flame wyrm FOEs almost have as much health as it. Bring max TP up food and pop Arianna's force break when you start to run out.
Oh, it's you again. Time to add another word to my filters.
There's not much hp bloat at that point. Fafnir doesn't even have his damage until 4th or 5th stratum though
dude link order lmao
you're probably a memelord that reclassed flavio and now has no damage
japanese patched cia
What the fuck is that, undub? Undub is exactly the same game with a bunch of stuff replaced, just shove your save back if it doesn't get recognised
actually doing curse conditional
with a fucking summon in party
Now that's a special case of retarded
survivalist doing damage meme
calling anyone a memelord
Now that's spicy
Is everything all right with those three builds?
Ephemeral Reap will see almost no use. Don't waste points on it. Don't max any Miasmas, keep them at level 9. It costs 1 fewer skill point and 5 less TP, and all you're trading off is one extra turn of application.
Don't take Masking Miasma unless you're using a Dodge Fencer or plan to otherwise be stacking Evasion. Wilting Miasma is fine to take to 9 points since you've got other status application on your team.
Max Atonement and Miasma Wall, they're the best Status control skills in the entire game and they're half the reason to bring a Deathguard. Max Spirit Absorb, it's one of the passives that scales well with additional points. Paralyzing Reap is cute filler, but I'd take the points out of it to max Atonement/Miasma Wall. Drop any excess points into it, if you have any.
Max Spirit Sword, the damage reduction applies regardless of turn order. Consider maxing Haze Slash if you have someone on your team that really likes hitting sleeping targets. Take on point out of High Ground for the same reason you should take one point out of your Miasmas (or any buff/debuff that doesn't powerspike at 10, for that matter). Take one point in New Challenger for the utility.
What the fuck.
Max Dark Smoke, Numbing Smoke and Chaos Smoke. Max Auto-Smoke, it's one of the best abilities in the entire game. Leave Toxic Smoke at level 2. Leave Smokeblight at level 9, again. Consider picking up one point in Healing Herb and one point in Revival Herb for the out-of-combat utility. Leave one point in TP up for the Lv. 1 value, but consider redistributing points elsewhere.
Clinch vs One-Two Punch
OTP is a filler skill, and not even a very good one. Use it after the monster has built up bind resistances. Clinch is better.
Don't take Masking Miasma
bullshit, you take one point to dispell evasion debuffs
max spirit sword
Don't do this, it only affects the masurao and not the party
This is a good point. Doesn't it dispel accuracy buffs rather than evasion debuffs though?
It's still [F R E E] survivability on a frontliner that really appreciates it. It's not high priority, but 1Kats are SP efficient.
1Kats are SP efficient.
not efficient enough to spend 5 SP on unimportant passive
I did it!
You got the wrong guy senpai.
Yeah I concede that I simply needed the tp up food.
I haven't done that yet but I am tempted.
It's a good thing I like chain parties since that's basically what Arianna spends her time doing.
But what if maybe they were actually THAT SP efficient?
Actually go through their skills and tell me what you'd dump Spirit Sword for.
do it now and not in mid stratum 4 like i did
they have like 70 free sp
literally anything else, only bad skills there are bolt slash and triple strike
Right, but instead of saying "literally anything else" I want you to look at the skills they've got, ask yourself when you'd use them and how frequently you'd use them, and then get back to me.
Triple Strike is decent because it counts as three separate attacks wherever that may be useful, for example comboing with Sanzu or Binding Force.
Petal Scatter isn't worth the SP, I'd rather just use a single-target attack and clear random mobs one by one.
I can't see myself ever using Air Blade.
Whirlwind's damage is too low to be compelling, and as with Petal Scatter I'd prefer to use single target attacks.
My 1Kat is there for High Ground and Armour Pierce, access to certain Union skills, Haze Slash, and sometimes Helm Splitter/Bolt Slash as filler.
what part of literally anything else did you not get
it counts as three separate attacks
There are much better ways to get 3 activations
Petal Scatter isn't worth the SP
Yes it is, it's the only all target attack worth shit they have
I can't see myself ever using Air Blade.
It's extremely cheap and ranged
There's literally nothing else I want. I just put together a 99r99 build and I maxed Speed Up, Katana Mastery AND Spirit Sword. That's how many fucking free points they have left over.
There are better ways to get three activations
True. It's neat to know, though.
It doesn't do enough damage to one-shot unless it crits, and I'd rather not gamble for that. 1Kat is so far away from being the character that I rely on to clear random battles that its legitimately difficult for me to imagine ever using them.
Cheap and ranged
Fair call. How many points would you put into it?
I just can't fucking believe both threads are still alive.
im so shocked that me bumping the other thread all day kept it alive ahhhh
use a VPN next time faggot
calm down 630-kun
Nigga you wat?
So why are you using some noname filehoster instead of mega? Doko links are dead.
Do you love Atlus?
Man, it truly doesn't deserve it over Nier.
Nier is crap.
I just bought this game.
WTF do I even do.
Make a classic-balanced (tank-mage-medic-damage-damage) party and you'll be fine.
This game is not Final Fantasy, don't waste your TP.
Only faggots use male characters.
2 days left.
Where is the niconico stream?
Alright time to fight Star Destroy-
You have to unseal him by reaching the two events on the floor that do it. They're one tile away of the room before the door, on either side of the gaps.
Oh okay. Was that just some sort of bad end or something?
I wasn't really paying attention
Arken says it's sealed up, so the only logical thing to do is unseal it
Almost ded thred
So what do you guys think? Zephyr's Gift (and whatever the basic one is called), worth it or is the return too small?
OH FUCK I JUST NOTICED MISTERY DUNGEON 2 CAME OUT A WHILE AGO WHERE THE FUCK IS THE SOUNDTRACK SOMEONE HELP
Thanks, user, gonna hear it while I jog today. Please, be good.
Looks surprisingly normal.
Depending on the class it might be one of the most important point you will ever spend.
I always get the Gift and the Grace - Gift at level 1, Grace after getting Masteries.
Which would you say are worth it, then?
I always pick it. But Dragoon Grace can often be not all that useful if you don't want to actually use Counter Guard or Divide Guard or Buster Cannon.
As a counterpoint, I would say that don't be stingy with your TP. Unlike other RPGs, you can instantly leave the dungeons anytime you like to heal and pretty quickly return to your last position thanks to shortcuts.
[spoilers]Slumming it out in the dungeon for an entire day with an inventory full of drops is the best feeling though[/spoilers]
The best is to find a proper balance between sustain and power.
We had a good run, but now that the series has been killed we can all go back to playing more Wizardry 1-5 derivatives.
tfw no wizardry 4 thats less insane
Waiting for surgery, didn't bring EOV with me, still haven't finished it
hope you get well frend
Hope you didn't forget your ariadane thread.
Why thank you, it's just a bad case of avokadohand, nothing too dramatic.
Feels bad man, RPGs are the greatest things to play in hospital.
tfw spent over 24 hours in hospital playing Golden Sun TLA once
Just reached the third floor and I'm getting my shit pushed by these fucking boars.
I realise my Shaman is dead weight in the party and I need a tank and I have no damage and the only reason Rover is for her dog and some links and nothing else
What's your team?
@Garbage Can Lid
Shin Megami Tensei? Paper Sorcerer?
Why would we? They are all shit
So I'm interested in this series, where should I start out? I generally don't hear a lot of good about the Untolds or IV, so should I just go straight for V? I'm too much of a baby for III
Start with 4
just because it's not the best in the series doesn't mean it's not a good game, every etrian is good except 2
Untolds and IV are literally fine. I know you're looking to be spoonfed, but any game in the series is as good as any other to start with. They aren't linked by plot.
I'd say start with 4 as well. Good classes, easier, best music. If you don't like airships, you won't need in later games
Wishing for a quick recovery. I haven't finished EOV either, so don't feel too bad.
3s a good start spot i think
personally the ability to play it on emu is only reason I was able to get into it enough to be willing to mess with the 3ds
Where is bobshark looking?
shes pretending to look at the phone but acutally looking at forchans reflection and her hearts beating faster and faster...!
Too many memes have given you brainrot.
I haven't played EOU1 yet, how quickly can you just rush through story mode to unlock the extra shit because I really don't like the sound of it, but I also don't like missing out
talking about brain rot
Oh the ironing
Not sure, just play on picnic if you really just want to rush through
Make sure to get all FOE and enemy drops from gladsheim
Why is yuri so wholesome?
Brawler Fencer (binds, links)
Warlock Shaman Rover (Def/Atk buffs, hound)
Thinking of switching to an ailment team or something since it looks fun
or maybe I'll just deal with it for a bit till I unlock legendary titles
rover is actually useful since her dog's healing is great but besides that she does nothing other than activate the odd link
Should I be level 99 for Star Devourer?
Yeah you're gonna need to suck it up and get a dragoon on your team. Consider using alter class on your Shaman for now.
Thunder fist + volt link should be doing shitloads of damage. How are you struggling?
4 or 5 are good starting points - but it's easier to go forward from 4 to 5 (and maybe pick up the remakes of the first two games along the way) than the other way around since the series gets more and more QoL with every installment.
Let's be honest, if they don't have the willpower to get accustomed to less QoL, maybe dungeon crawlers aren't for them.
Though I agree, it's way easier to go forwards than back
help me friends
i can't beat star destroyer, even though i already dropped to basic just for it
i can kill off the components with chain all, but it keeps parrying right when i'm ready to go ham, wasting two entire turns
i'm guessing parry is used every 4 turns
but the real shitty part is the status spam + evasion buffing
give me tips and/or motivation
It's some of that "QoL" that's turning me off in the first place. Stuff like floor jump in the untolds especially.
Only if you love grinding.
use meme parties like chain killer, impact or buster
he couldnt beat the Mad Overlord
I'll pray for you with my local pastor.
Sorry i'm not a neet autist, i need time to beat proper games, not some dnd jerkoff
could of fooled me
post you're party
And don't fight if on basic or it doesn't count
Thanks, I tok a small break when getting halfway in s5. I feel great though, drugs
Does Multi-Katana impact Hell Slash?
only ever put one point into multikatana, any more only affects your normal attack
the more katanas you hold the more chases hell slash can do
I need more damage and TP efficiency to beat the damn fire lizard in 3rd stratum of EOIV.
If you haven't broken the big scale, do that. It halves its HP and nerfs its big flame attack. The route isn't particularly difficult and you can go back to town to rest and it won't come back for a week or whatever.
Oh, so that was the trick to killing it the first time.
Was able to escape from it after running out of TP when it had about 45% health, so I can probably kill it that way.
Kind of tricky to lure it around in circles to break that big scale though.
Without giving it away too much, start from the right door and lure it downwards
lizard drops scales to heat its lair
basically this place was cold as shit (like the surrounding environment) before it settled there
yet deleting the scales causes the lizard to freeze
the very same lizard which crawled all the way to this cold as fuck cave over cold ass mountains and shat scales all over it without freezing
basically it's too hard for lizard to just shit another pile of scales because reasons
and even more local furry population considers it a threat when you can just remove all scales in timely manner and do like whatever you want with it
It could have climbed up from deep underground or something and set up scales as it went, then the old ones cooled off after a gorillion years so the only heat was from its recent scales.
Looking for logic in an Etrian game is a fool's errand though.
But the lizard can shit another pile no problem, given time.
It takes a surprisingly huge period of time for something that heavily endangers the lizard. They should have just went with two forms - one normal and one with shed scales but that would require effort and we all know atlus ain't spending effort on the series which will never sell.
the leader of the furries is a bushi/medic
that means the rest of them are even more retarded
not some dnd jerkoff
So what are you doing here???
He's a medic on purpose though
for something that heavily endangers the lizard
Explorers haven't been a common occurence for centuries, furries never tried and regular mobs are not a menace.
Like it literally halves its hp and cuts all the offensive stuff it has, this thing really hates cold
4kat/cannon dragoon/hawk rover
poison bot/ele warlock
This is my party for Star Devourer.
Give it to me straight, am I going to make it?
no synergy: the party
no binds: the party
How the fuck you even made it to 30F
he has a dagger ear
chain blast is the only bind you need
Is my party really that bad? I had no trouble making it this far. My main source of binds was chain blast and hawk head bind skills.
just got around to defeating crystal dragon
it's very irritating how bringing in petrify resist sealed the deal.
and after all those deaths beforehand
Yeah, but even in that weakened state there are no threats to it.
So it just needs some extra time to transform the environment to its convenience and be at full power.
you have a whole lot of damage per person its not that bad really even though its kinda strange and they basically dont interact
honestly im surprised you dont have survival trouble though
i like to think its like making the big scale would leave it naked and vulnerable, it can make a new pile but its not safe to do so while people are stalking around his room, he needs privacy and time to grow back his own coat of scales in the warmth of the big pile
he only uses the scales in the fight when hes near dying too cause hes desperate
What synergy can you have without fencers?
you'll never force boiling lizard to make a big scale in public while everyone points at it and laughs
you do elemental based team with elemancer warlock with a shaman+dance oracle+necro nad maybe even smoke bombs from the bot
poison bot benefits from harbinger
4kat likes to have some kind of shield, rover/necro/drg, it can fit into an elemental lineup with shaman too though thats not the only thing it can do
hawk rover enjoys 1kat masuraos evasion debuff as it helps with using million arrows as filler for much higher overall damage
cannon dragoon can be built around as a sole damage dealer with buster cannon using pugilist/masurao/shaman etc supports
this team just kinda is, the botanist is your lone ailment person and also only healer, hawks your only binds and its a secondary job for it really (though underrated in my opinion hawk rover binds are quite good)
ele warlock has nobody to proc common magic for them, it has nobody to share amplifier with either
4kat has nobody to keep them alive
its weird i dont think its bad really but its definitely strange
Thank you for the detailed post.
I'll have to think about my team composition again.
This is For-chan, she can now legally get married with Bobshark. Congratulate her.
No one will unironically marry bobshark
it feels wrong to have 5 people brave all 30 floors of the dungeon, then 5 other ones only show up for a single 10-minute battle right at the end
standard chain fencer party
chain fencer/shield dragoon
omnimancer/bird rover/herald shaman
wiping out parts is easy enough with boosted chain freeze, then earthspike + ice peck
my problem is that these keep getting parried, wasting buff durations and the turn it took to use chain all
another major problem is when it just decides to be a cunt and spam status moves, exorcism prayer isn't helping
What is wrong with cleanup party finishing up what their shitter guildmates couldn't do?
use lockdown dude, and you really should use elemancer, hailstorm is much more powerful than earthspike and will skill proc chains
Why the fuck use chain all there? Aegis shield explosion and put buffs in that turn then just attack parts as soon as they arrive, they should get murdered fast and the rest will spill onto the body
How do I get a conditional drop from Plague Demon (stratum 5 goat) if I don't have necro or harbinger in my party? I tried curse gas but it missed 4 times before FOE died
Get a Necro or Harbinger. Or just ignore the conditional.
kill under the effects of formaldehyde
curse of formaldehyde
I have Wraith Mastery, Summon Wraith, Grave and Wraith Dance maxed out on my Necro. Wondering what else to take. Wraith Cry seems nice since I have no one else to debuff defense, but spending a turn to summon a new Wraith seems counter productive unless I also get Grave Keeping and Reincarnation, but that's going to take me another sub 30 levels or so, and even then they don't seem all that reliable.
What else to take, though? I'm mainly using my Necro to Grave my Dragoon who has Auto Roar and Counter Guard.
Not as wrong as having other shitty low-level guildmates gain all the honor
and EXP when reporting quests and missions.
I think I might be late here, but
Literally how are you struggling?
Take Thunderfist on your Pugilist, even if it's only a few points.
Take Chain Burst on your Fencer.
Have your Fencer target one enemy with a Chain skill, have your Shaman and Rover target the same enemy, have your Pugilist target a different enemy with Thunderfist. Thunderfist target dies, Chain target dies, Chain Burst blows the fuck out of the remnants of the encounter, Warlock casts literally whatever spell they'd like to finish off the fight.
There is also a staff with Cursed Flames that can be used to inflict it, but of course, it does a little bit of damage that might very well end up killing the thing if it's at low health.
English voices are fine
Are those lines every actually spoken in-game?
They're some of the battle voices for the character voices.
Also are you really surprised at that with the state of this game's localization?
UNLEASH THE BEAST
ARE YOU READY, BASTARDS?
Which voices specifically? I've virtually never used the male voices. Even given the state of the localization, I am legitimately shocked that "epic fail" made it in. Reddit localization was a mistake.
They fucked up Monster Hunter Generations too, and Monster Hunter's not even a niche series.
I believe it's the battle lines for the Gentle voice.
It's for the Male Gentle voice. Specifically when he wins the battle, and fails to run, respectively.
i still havent bothered to change his voice
Every fucking time that faggot protector gives me that faggot look on her face
yeah, and i even have a male voice with a female portrait.
it's pretty hot
i even have a male voice with a female portrait
it's pretty hot
Tell me more
you know that 2nd female dragoon? yeah.
she kinda makes for a pretty boy
the fact that they're full-clad of armor and their skirt is hard to see didn't really help
now imagine him being forced to wear said skirt during exploration
mfw realizing that Amalgolem was a tutorial for Star Devourer
mfw realizing that the Elves knew about Star Devourer when they made Amalgolem
mfw realizing that the Elves were either using Amalgolem to train themselves to vanquish Star Devourer, or
were attempting to recreate Star Devourer for their own nefarious purposes, or Amalgolem was just the proto-type, and the Elves are actually in control of Star Devourer and are the ultimate evil of EOV's alternate universe
d e e p e s t
or maybe the devs are just hackfrauds and recycled a boss
I kid, I kid. I think it's most likely just meant to be a tutorial, and there's no deeper meaning beyond that.
Why would that be your face? You better not be aroused by elves or their evil ploys
The more Elves around, the more degenerate doujins will be authored. If they win, I win.
That's a nice image, we should use it as an OP pic sometime
don't lewd etriams
nothing is safe from lewd
you must accept this eternal truth
Introducing mechanics or ideas in a relatively safe fashion before later implementing them in more dangerous fights is something the series has done for a long time
and yet every time a mechanic is introduced I still forget to prepare for it
Why would you say such a targeted and hateful thing? Is it because you knew that I'd used it as an OP in the past?
Wrong artist. The original is a bestiality image, if I'm remembering right. That artist has never done scat.
half the reason to bring a Deathguard
Whats the other half?
Overall, its very skillpoint intensive. I mean, I could drop ParaReap completely but again, I want to have at least one aliment inflicting skill on character.
I use 70 points as base since I already drop points into racial stat increasement skills and bind/aliments resist ones + union skills.
Also, I think Im missing something because fresh characters have 3 skillpoints but calculator gives them 77 points on level 70, instead of 72.
Consider maxing Haze Slash if you have someone on your team that really likes hitting sleeping targets
I actually would like to welcome any aliments in. Again, this is "backup team" but I like experimenting and a lot of other classes likes aliments infliction.
What the fuck
Its for Celestrian reclassed as Botanist, solely for Smokebomb.
Here is new propostion, based on your suggestions. How is it now?
Try out new and improved Death's Edge team comp
Already able to hit 99999 with the old one
But this one lets you hit the damage cap EVEN HARDER
I try it out vs Crystal Dragon
I fuck up my Heavenly Aid
I fuck up my Vitality Prayer
I forget to rest out of Spirit Absorb on my Deathguard
I don't even apply sleep
STILL hit 99999
I'm actually sad that the damage cap is so "low", because it'd be nice to see how far you could actually push it. I'm hitting for at least 150k with Sleep there. Why couldn't we have EOV classes in EO2U, where HP bloat would actually make these sorts of insanely high damage numbers useful?
I just want disgaea type damage in EO
Not for any particular reason other than big numbers get me hard
What's the other reason to use Deathguard?
Extremely high action speed due to Miasma Armour's (2.5x speed at max).
Eroding Miasma, Masking Miasma, Wilting Miasma, and a level 5 Ruinous Prayer via Prayer Scythe (27% vs 35% from a level 9 Ruinous Prayer).
Deathguards are actually incredibly strong support characters, I can only assume that the reason they have such a bad reputation is because people struggled 1-20 with them, and then never played around with them at postgame.
They're very SP intensive
Not really? Atonement, Miasma Wall, two Miasmas of your choice, that's about all you need. Fill the rest up as the levels come in.
I'm missing something
You gain 1 SP per level +2 at level 1 so you start with three, and gain an extra 5 with titles. You can gain up to an extra 10 via Retire bonuses.
whad de fugg
I was confused because you had a smoke botanist that wasn't maxing out their ailments, and smoke botanists are very good at applying ailments when reclassed from Celestrian. Your builds are fine now. I will note that Miasma Wall is actually better than Atonement, because preventive care is better than treatment. Consider taking points out of Healing Herb, you only need the single point for out of combat healing. If you still want to use Smoke Bomb (understandably as it hits like a truck), take points out of whichever smoke skill you value the least.
Don't say such silly things!
But disgaea had that readhead loli in it, it must be good
How powerful is Goreblade weapon skill?
it's a bit like petal scatter but it buffs you on top of it. worth it imo, especially if you don't have any other aoe damage skills
Blackbeard was a pirate
his real name was Edward Teach
buccaneer is a blonde
buccaneers are pirates
I cracked the code. Teach isn't disguising herself as princess in EO3. She's disguised as the blonde buccaneer.
Can't be teach
Where would teach find boobs like that?
Teach will forever be EO princess :3
IS THAT A-
Im sorry but I dont follow
J-J-JAM IT IN
You lost me
Nuking Etria... with no survivors
Anyone happen to know if there are aby wallpapers of the 5th stratum from EOV? In particular the image you see in the background when you enter the menu? I really love the aesthetics of it so I'd like it as a wallpaper. If all else fails I guess I'll just have to crop the intro cInematic for the 5th stratum.
What are these blue triangle on a black background FOE icons for?
Isn't that your party?
I'm looking for them in the game's data but so far I haven't found anything. The only backgrounds I found were the intro backgrounds, but they are broken in a weird way.
Oh wait, are those for when you're floating in the fifth stratum?
But scratch that, who is this? Is it for a later quest? I'm currently in 29F and haven't seen it.
I'm not sure, but I want to say that they're for some kind of friendly unit.
Is that real?
So, who want to spank bad girls?
Not sure if it's used, but it's definitely inside the cartridge.
Also, early Fencer design. For some reason it's stored as a screenshot.
Doing Gods work user. This was a crop I took but man the 5th stratum is beautiful so not having an official image sucks. That said there are larger images for the other stratum up to and including the 4th in pre release stuff so...hey the artbook might have it! Ah it'll be impossible to find someone who's uploaded it to an acceptable degree of quality though.
Very interesting! I'm glad they didn't go with that though, that's even more bland than the nene we got
they used U2's first stratum background
an acceptable degree of quality though
The guy did rip his artbook apart to give it to us though, I appreciate that
superboss of eo5 wields plasma cutters
Isacc is that you buddy?
"Fuck you, and fuck your labyrinth."
I wonder, does the nippon just have the class names we already know or is there anything else
Apparently they aren't stored as a single image, but broken down in layers, so you'll have to use Photoshop to build the actual backgrounds. I don't have anything but MSPaint so have all the pieces:
Wow this is great thank you very much! I've got the artbook scan which is actually decent but now I can get it at the best quality.
Etriam butts are better
I'm sorry I don't quite get it, Etriam what now?
I have to confess I have no idea how to combine these kek but I know eventually I'll get it done. It's interesting to see the game breaks em down though it makes perfect sense.
If its in layers, Gimp can be used as well and its free.
I just played both the dead space games again for the first time in like 7 years, damn they hold up.
Nice. Here's the crop anyways of the night version. Is the forest ring part of Yggdrasil or on top floating between it and the stratosphere?
fuck your labyrinth
It would appear some pioneers in this thread have already begun this noble endeavor.
So with 5 being a giant meme, what are the actually good Etrians?
only 1 and 2
1 2 3 4 5 1U 2U PQ EMD EMD2
and the mobile gacha game
No, that one isn't good either.
implying any of them are good
not even coloring it in the background's color
not painting under teach
develops a war crime
calls it a game
How do they keep getting away with this
Which etrian should I think of while going to sleep tonight?
The absolute strongest possible single target heal in EOV with maxed out passives and 255 WIS heals less than a Medica IV with Herbology
That is unfortunate.
Magic attack from your staff doesn't influence healing, right?
stat sticks or free skills, I think a basic bow will be more useful than a basic staff obviously but a single staff can potentially be more useful than a single bow
So I'm playing the original one, how did you guys map the directions of the moving tiles in stratum 4?
I tried. Used all but one piece because I didn't know where the fuck it goes (the weird red/blue/black glow). Not 100% the same, but it's the best I could do. I don't know how useful it's going to be though, considering it's wide as shit but not very tall.
Looks damn nice user
very nice, could you upscale with waifu2x, that might make it useable
I was using warp icon as "start" tile plus actually drew walls across the routes (I was not drawing walls anyway). It really sucked how they didnt introduce arrows yet.
By the way, I was marking shortcuts as doors with note mark. Funny, right?
you might unironically want to consider swapping to pen and paper for 1 the further you play
but for those what i used was delete the floor tiles on moving tiles and place a wall on the last tile in the direction it dropped you off
so when you see a blank tile you know it moves and you follow the path until it hits 3 walls, that's where you get off
in the case of T sections you look at branching paths and the one that didn't end with a wall isn't the correct one
pretty sure everyone did them differently
No different tile colors or arrows makes 1 hell to map
Staves give you access to some extremely potent abilities, such as Thunderbolt, but since Herald Shaman is a support class you'll want Bows because they can trigger Chains, give a boost to turn speed, and the two ultimate bows both have potent support skills.
I knew what it was. I knew it. And yet I clicked it
I believe I used warps for the start and doors for the end.
wraiths dancing on a grave
How is this killing everything?
For most of your EO(U) Landsknecht Needs
By the way, in order to answer that anon's question, I picked up my NDS from shelf - still running despite not being charged for like 3 years- and wow, those feelings. I still consider first game to have best atmosphere and most memorable content.
forehead a cute
Y'know with EO2U going out of its way to put EO1, 2 and 3 in the same universe as well as 5s ending suggesting it's in the same canon as well I really hope they're gonna do something in the final EO game with regards to this. Highlander and Ricky are travelling, the squad from EO2U is headed to Armoroad, Arken is on Earth...
EO and EOII were always in the same universe.
And the Armoroad namedrop is really not much.
I want to fuck Teach
It's things like this that make me consider if I'm a lolicon.
That's it. I'm fucking done with the Etrian Odyssey V series. This game is horrible. Between the obscure number crunching and non existent story (really? climb a tree? it's like these people WANTED to make a shin megumi tensei game but somehow were forced to make a filler episode for some shonen anime....) what really finalized my anger for this particular franchise is that they all play the same. You literally always make a party of 5 stupid looking girls and try to level them up. This is especially jarring when you have to fight against some H.P.Lovecraftian elder gods from space. How does a big titted loli kill that?? fucking unrealistic piece of trash from japan, once again. I'm done with this chain of events.
A new pasta? I hope this one dies faster than the last one.
At least pick something funny, user.
AND another that really pisses me off is the 5 person parties. Like, why 5? I'm always lacking something in my party and I can't plan for all disaster scenarios like you could in a real party based RPG. I wouldn't be surprised if in the next game Fatlus reduced the party limit to 4 only but kept the same balance. The only way to make the parties even smaller than this is if it was like my birthday parties.
New for EOV - at least I haven't seen that one in here since EOV release.
Not being a lolicon in the current year
teach is like 30
the persona q of etrian odyssey is coming
Classic mode is our savior.
Are there any gays in Etrian Odyssey or did faffy kill them all
guys help the iron crustacean OHKOs my party even if I defend the ice buttfuck what do i do
tfw im having an easier time with the orgy golem than with the lobster
i'm wondering if there's any other solution than the obvious grinding one
I beseech thee!
New EOV challenge: clear all five floors of each stratum on a single trip to the inn. I must commit complete FoE genocide on each and every floor.
What party should I run? I need a team that has both exceedingly cheap ways to clear random encounters as well as consistent ways to clear FoE fights, preferrably in only a handful of turns and without the use of Union Skills.
Currently considering a 4Kat / Impugi / Barrapugi / Herbotanist / Herald team comp. Thoughts and criticisms greatly appreciated!
If I have 8kat can Hell Slash activate off Hell slash?
And that gif isn't teach.
Bind legs to prevent it from using Ice Slicer.
Use Hail Prayer to reduce damage.
Use Magic Shield or Mana Guard to reduce damage.
Use an Union Skill, Tri-Shield nullifies it entirely.
Thank, you are welcomed!
didn't actually expect an answer, thanks
mana guard and tri-shield are my only choices as my comp is absolutely retarded
you definitely want a rover with a dog early, you can use encounters with multiple nuts by leaving one alive and havif wveryone defend until dog and animal therapy fully heal you while regenerating tp with the union
after a while youll be crazy overleveled that only foes are gonna matter so you just need a strat to kill them easily
for 4th stratum definitely bring a necro and just powder the sonar guys and trade the rest
reclassing for each stratum makes sense to me
I can't tell if I like the snowy 3rd stratum theme in EO2(U).
The music? I like it, it's not my favourite in the game but it's still nice enough that I've listened to it on youtube while doing other stuff.
I considered a Rover, but I feel like the Pugilist offers more and I don't like being forced to reroll a character just so I get a slightly easier 1st stratum, which is already the easiest.
I also want to avoid Necro cheese with 9999 Wraiths. Beyond that, I feel like Necros are too TP intensive to use consistently, and taking a Necro means not taking the 4Kat to clear random encounters.
I'm wondering if maybe a Chain team is stronger, due to Chain Burst clearing random encounters instantly and Chain Killer mincing FoEs.
Hey, lets combine those little guys who instagib players when it gets damage with higly durable mob that prevents rising up dead party members
Im actually now afraid to rise level cap - with everyone at 70, even death of party members dont break the perfectly even exp for everyone. With level cap, I would have to deal with uneven exp ;_;
This artist does good work. A shame their books don't get scanned.
The Tittylist book looks pretty good based on the previews too.
is the new game gud? Worth buying a 2ds for?
Thanks. It wasn't working on the other ones for some reason.
is eo good
get a load of this chump.
after having obtained useful hints from user, i try to face the deadly lobster again
happens that my gal can't survive if she uses her turn for mana guard but at least it saves everyone else so i just revive her later
everything is going well
runs out of mana
can't get any mana pots
jesus fuck it sucks being retarded
1 day left
Move your Dragoon to the backline so she isn't being targeted when Ice Slicer hits your frontline.
Just fucking use Tri-Shield already you mong, it's one of the best Union skills in the game.
I want to impregnate Angie and live in the Deep City with her
EO:Untold 1 and 2 were turds. So bad that I sold my 3ds.
By the way, does the undub version use the same save as the undubbed cia? Don't wanna restart.
damn i never thought of that
also out of points for it will get it next, thanks anon-kun
Fuck off Teachfag.
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Hell Slash can't proc off of itself but a single proc can activate hell slash for both bunnys. So pugilist thunder fist will result in bunny a hell slashing then bunny b but that's it.
Alright thank you.
I can't wait to fuck up Revolver Wilhelm. What an asshole.
I love this picture so much
Thanks for the tips to kill Lobster-kun! I finally did it, had to luck out towards the end (ran out of mana), lived because it decided to hit my bunkers for like three turns.
Ran out of mana
Please don't tell me you started the fight on full mana, too.
Have you upgraded your equipment? Are you using buffs and debuffs?
I did start on full mana qq
All my weapons are +5 (you can only upgrade the weapons, right?) and I did use buffs, and only buffs because I didn't want to use mana on debuffs as I was trying to not get insta-plowed by ice fuckery in the first place
What's your team comp, and why are you dealing negative one billion damage to a monster with a Volt weakness?
Dragoon, Masurao, Reaper, Necromancer, Herbalist
For reference, before EO5 I only played through the first dungeon (or whatever they're called) of EO4 and then EO5 released during my playthrough so I just moved over to it.
What I mean by this is that I have no idea what the fuck I'm doing.
its kinda low damage
you specifically picked a team thats really bad early game, after second stratum things will improve pretty drastically for you
killing iron crustacean easy/fast is more a test of if you have a pug and/or fencer then anything else anyway
thanks for the tips anon-kun
so now I know that I'm not *that* incompetent
oof, I have not picked up eo5 in like 5 days because I dread respecing my entire team
I have not picked up eo5 since I started work, in like 10 days.
I hate the no neet life
That team comp
Christ almighty. No wonder you were struggling. The boss of the second Stratum is going to absolutely roll you.
Okay then. When you're building a team in Etrian Odyssey, you MUST have an answer to these four questions:
1) Can I deal significant single-target damage?
2) How will I survive large amounts of incoming physical damage?
3) How will I survive large amounts of incoming magical damage?
4) Can I quickly dispatch a handful of low health targets (preferrably in a single turn)?
Following on from that, further questions to ask yourself of your team composition include:
5) Can I remove or prevent status ailments?
6) Can I remove or prevent binds?
7) Do I have a source of healing?
8) Do I have a source of revival?
All of these are FAR less important than the first four. 5 and 6 are sometimes very important as there's almost always a few bosses that revolve around ailments or binds, but 7 and 8 are basically just out-of-combat utility.
Looking at your team of Dragoon / Masurao / Harbinger / Necromancer / Botanist, which of those questions do you feel you have a stronger answer to? What stands out as needing a better answer? Alternatively, what strikes you as something that you are OVER-prepared for?
Something else to consider is that you have three buff slots and three debuff slots, so good teams usually come close to filling every buff and debuff slot. Don't freak out if you don't have exactly three and three, but four in total is a good standard to keep.
Good night Etriam. See you in Armoroad
that eo3u trailer
jesus fucking christ. calling it now, fafnir will get merged with the yggdrasil core
Why would you tease us with such a cruel post?
Pull the trigger, Mediko.
that floor in Ginnungagap where you can't ariadne thread out
you can't even run away from the FOEs, so if you get caught by one you either have to fight it or die
since you have to fight FOEs anyway, you might as well just bruteforce the floor by killing the 2 of them that block your way
Jesus fuck, I love EOU2 but it annoys me every time.
New class/heroine reveal for EO3U
He thinks we can't read the fine print
Ramewl a cute.
Are Ygg buds here too?
what event is gonna happen thats gonna announce best game?
p5 dlc and emd2 news. nothing more, keep your hopes where they are
guy, I want eo3u so bad. I want to see the revamped classes, I want to see the clones and pets having their own slots, I wanna see the 3d busty fishwomen, I want to hear missys voice, I want.. to see the story end.
but I know better. emd2 might be the last game in the series
Don't let your hopes and dreams die yet!
I just wanted to post least popular pug
He needs no pity since he got to fuck Warlock.
That doujin and the other two before it were great. Part 4 when?
I need more Warlock gangbang.
You get three of the "escape from battle" items that work against the FOEs.
If you mess up more often than that you deserve to die.
why are you so ded etriam
Just started playing EO5 and messed up my team so now i'm restarting. Questions
Does Magic attack stack from Elemancer and Punisher? Would being a punisher with the 3 single warlock ele skills and magic atk from punisher skill be worth it?
Would a team of 3 front line dps with a decoy shaman and botanist be good? or would i be missing out without a tank or backline dps instead of a shaman? what about a decoy botanist?
magic attack stacking
user kun i dont understand your accent
everything stacks though in EO5
you want at least 3 of your team as dedicated damage dealers probably, some specific strategies can let one person handle it but in that case the other 4 all back up that one person, not dealing enough damage or under/overestimating how much one person can or will do is the biggest mistake most people make when constructing teams I feel like
I was just sleeping
Most people finished EOV and are running out of ecchi to post
Do you mean the attack buffs? Yes, they stack additively in EOV - but you only have three buff slots per character.
Not sure what you mean with a Punisher and 3 single Warlock skills - Punishers are Shamans and there is only one single target Warlock skill in each specialisation.
Going both tanksless and without ranged damage sounds like asking for trouble - if you have no tank you need to end your battles fast. If you have only melee attacks that is pretty hard.
And what is a decoy Botanist?
running out of ecchi to post
Oh I have plenty
Blame EOV for being so crappy
because that's a normal state of this general and series dumb teachposters
Traveling around 26F
Two rays and one binding guy
Always acted before binds but this time he cast first, binding entire party
Nobody does anything due to binds
Rays cast their AoE
Everyone is asleep
Two turns later, three party members are dead, in next turns one another died and one manages to escape
Im afraid of going deeper ;_;
Overall, Im on 27F and it seems that I will be jumping across floors all the time. Do I absolutely have to increase level cap, tho? I cant stand uneven exp and it seems like my girls will be dying a lot but at the same time I dont know if levels 70 will be able to stand against 30F obstacles.
You want to increase your level cap for random encounters to be less annoying.
Also all level cap bosses have a kill quest associated with them and skipping quests is bad.
You should already have your first level cap quest since you reached 27F.
If not, talk to Jenetta a bit, find her on 3F afterwards, ask her what she wants and then do the quest that unlocked because of that in the bar.
Stop being a fucking pussy
And in case I would want to reach new level cap, is farming 26F FOE with Soul Gatherer active and two Necros still the fastest and safest way to grind experience?
dont post stuff like this it hurts
not self-inserting as highlander
id rather self insert as
Self-inserting helps dealing with harsh reality, you know?
Thanks for reminding me how lonely I am.
Getting that faaf dick I presume
quickshot kun you did it too early again you gotta wait til we're finished
50 posts too early
Its /feg/ all over again.
Is /feg/ a good place?
Is /feg/ a good place?
They keep talking about how SNES Emblems are "the best", how 3DS Emblems are "casual" and "shit", about how much money they spent on mobile shitty game and rolls related while 50% of posts are memes.
they're not wrong
Well, I played Awakening for 120 hours total and Fates for 220 hours total and they are not shit.
they are very much shit
They're shit and so are you.
Go to bed, grandpa.
Cant we just fill the remaining 30 posts and call it a day?