Etrian Odyssey General

Bidwell
Bidwell

Everything Etrian Odyssey (References, Music, Art Books, etc.)
https://pastebin.com/cdfQmt11

EOV
http://atlus.com/etrian5/
http://sq-atlus.jp/sq5/
EOV guild cards
https://imgur.com/a/oweN7

EOV undub
US CIA: https://a.doko.moe/odnpma.7z
US Luma: https://a.doko.moe/wddgmp.7z
US to EU patch for both: https://a.pomfe.co/xcrrjwp.7z
Other undubs: https://pastebin.com/KxsDbkq8

EOV DLC cia
US: https://mega.nz/#!bExTRahb!qRKVfagWcuesrETzsOpOAzBCYYZ1C4GmZseNzQqS8NA
EU: https://a.doko.moe/ystmmt.7z

EMD2
http://sq-atlus.jp/sfd2/

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WebTool
WebTool

no /sqg/

happy_sad
happy_sad

Nènè is bènè

StrangeWizard
StrangeWizard

@Bidwell
You know what it's time for

viagrandad
viagrandad

Did mad shit on the mattress.

TalkBomber
TalkBomber

I have no idea how you're supposed to beat Hippogryph without a pugilist.

Booteefool
Booteefool

@TalkBomber
chain blast replaces bind pugilists

Firespawn
Firespawn

@TalkBomber
le epic volt chain abuse

kizzmybutt
kizzmybutt

Alright no more fucking around.

Time for some real discussion.

Which stratum wud u fuck

New_Cliche
New_Cliche

@Crazy_Nice
what's the giraffe for

AwesomeTucker
AwesomeTucker

@New_Cliche
Eating leaves

Stark_Naked
Stark_Naked

@kizzmybutt
cyclopean haunt

Nude_Bikergirl
Nude_Bikergirl

@New_Cliche
Eats leaves

RavySnake
RavySnake

@Stark_Naked
gas the /d/egenerate.

TurtleCat
TurtleCat

It's weird, with EOIV and EOV I was content with having to make my own party ala classic mode but with EOU and EO2U I find using the story mode party's much more fun.

Fried_Sushi
Fried_Sushi

@TurtleCat
Whoops don't know how I got that name there.

farquit
farquit

@TurtleCat
OP is a retard

TurtleCat
TurtleCat

EO4 is the highest rated Etrian Odyssey game.

viagrandad
viagrandad

Does charge work with Ricky’s guns?

haveahappyday
haveahappyday

@Bidwell
4 more days

WebTool
WebTool

@TurtleCat
Yeah, if the rating scale goes from 100 to 1! Hahaha!

cum2soon
cum2soon

@TurtleCat
and yet it's barely half of an etriam game

PurpleCharger
PurpleCharger

@TurtleCat
mystery dungeon is rated higher than 1 and as high as 2 lol

King_Martha
King_Martha

why ricky

takes2long
takes2long

@viagrandad
Bump, is it worth it at lvl 9 or should I use Turning Tide instead?

BinaryMan
BinaryMan

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HXZwBPVXdM0

BlogWobbles
BlogWobbles

@BinaryMan
review
I'm not gonna watch shit.

Bidwell
Bidwell

@BinaryMan
tl;dw
person doesn't like dungeon crawlers and thought it would be one she wouldn't enjoy
music was the best part
gameplay good
classes are gr8
did not like the lolis
8.5/10
Pretty much she's a heretic

StonedTime
StonedTime

im gonna try replaying without second names

eGremlin
eGremlin

@Bidwell
did not like the lolis
females are degenerates as usual

Illusionz
Illusionz

Man, Etreant was piss-easy in EO:U, was he more difficult in EO?

BlogWobbles
BlogWobbles

@Illusionz
Actually no. He's harder in EOU.
Also, what was your party/levels?

SniperWish
SniperWish

@BlogWobbles
About 66 due to me trying get those damn gold furs for some time. Is that way too high?

girlDog
girlDog

@SniperWish
It's fine.

Spazyfool
Spazyfool

@girlDog
Well, then it looks like Raquna Bravery’s Giftin’ constantly while the others bladt fire makes the boss a joke

ZeroReborn
ZeroReborn

@Spazyfool
Bravery's Gift was one of the best skills for tanks ever made in this game.

Evil_kitten
Evil_kitten

@Spazyfool
*Blast fire formulas
Whelp, time to get rekt by Alraune

Stupidasole
Stupidasole

There's nothing to post.

Deadlyinx
Deadlyinx

This is why you don't use worst girls

Sharpcharm
Sharpcharm

Return to 29F to do some exploring
Full team of 99r99, this should be a joke to clear
Trash pack of 2 x Dreamray, 1x backline Lemur
I decide to delay for a turn so I can cast Medicinal Lick to restore some health
Mistake
Glacial Tail + Glacial Tail (Copycat) + Glacial Tail + Glacial Tail (Copycat)
Jesus
Fucking
Christ

You have (one turn) to clear out these sixth stratum mobs, or you're fucked.

BunnyJinx
BunnyJinx

@Sharpcharm
We know.

Poker_Star
Poker_Star

@Sharpcharm
im a little disappointed to hear that even 99r99 cant survive consecutive glacial tails

Emberburn
Emberburn

Good night thread

Crazy_Nice
Crazy_Nice

@Methshot
Cute zacc.

LuckyDusty
LuckyDusty

Respecing my SB Dragoon, BB Pug, CD Fencer, MH Botanist, and DH Shaman now that I hit Level 70. Any suggested class changes?

Gigastrength
Gigastrength

ded

Need_TLC
Need_TLC

@Gigastrength
You will never be one of flatmancer's wraiths.

Gigastrength
Gigastrength

@kizzmybutt
I'd like to try Tutelary Forest

whereismyname
whereismyname

soon

Gigastrength
Gigastrength

@whereismyname
Second from left is my favorite

askme
askme

@Gigastrength
RIGHT**
NOT FROM THE LEFT

cum2soon
cum2soon

@askme

too late, no takebacks

VisualMaster
VisualMaster

everyone asking for party advice is trying to make a Chain meme party
Did people forget the joy of creating your own party or what?

Bidwell
Bidwell

@VisualMaster
The joy of being told 40 hours in that your team's not good enough to beat all the enemies and that you have to reclass

DeathDog
DeathDog

@whereismyname
Are we finally going to see what Yuji looks like?

TurtleCat
TurtleCat

@VisualMaster
They went full retard and locked up 80% of your skillset after 40 hours of play.

StonedTime
StonedTime

@Bidwell
name ONE party that can't beat the main game
Hard mode: no reclassing
Dante Must Die mode: 5 members

Gigastrength
Gigastrength

@StonedTime
You need a Protector, Medic and Troubadour.

King_Martha
King_Martha

@Gigastrength
He's talking about EOV

likme
likme

@StonedTime
well they did say all enemies so it has to be able to beat star devourer i assume

anyway ill try my hand at dmd
harb harb
rover necro bot

hairygrape
hairygrape

@Bidwell
@TurtleCat
Same person.
40 hours to get to the 3rd stratum

LuckyDusty
LuckyDusty

Where would you hide your ariadne thread? Amd would it be safe?

FastChef
FastChef

@hairygrape
Same person? You wot m8?

Sharpcharm
Sharpcharm

@Bidwell
40 hours to get to stratum 3
Are you one of those streamers that grinds to level 50 before hippogryph?

w8t4u
w8t4u

@whereismyname
Who the fuck are these people

lostmypassword
lostmypassword

@w8t4u
EOVI spoilers, that's the shopkeeper and guildmaster

Fuzzy_Logic
Fuzzy_Logic

@StonedTime
5 potato botanists

TurtleCat
TurtleCat

@Deadlyinx
Jesus Christ how horrifying.

Lord_Tryzalot
Lord_Tryzalot

@Deadlyinx
Only worst girl there is glasses gunner

Emberburn
Emberburn

@Deadlyinx
is that a-

Supergrass
Supergrass

@Emberburn
yeah that's probably a dumb goreposter

MPmaster
MPmaster

All these people still complaining about second names locking up your skillset
As if base abilities are sufficient for almost every class
As if this isn't the best subclass system we've had yet

RumChicken
RumChicken

@Supergrass
gore
being this retarded

Lord_Tryzalot
Lord_Tryzalot

@MPmaster
Harbinger before Titles

Fried_Sushi
Fried_Sushi

@Lord_Tryzalot
wilting miasma
all you need

Boy_vs_Girl
Boy_vs_Girl

@Fried_Sushi
needing wilting miasma before titles

TreeEater
TreeEater

@MPmaster
dumb bunnyposter

Emberfire
Emberfire

@Fried_Sushi
More like all you have

Illusionz
Illusionz

@MPmaster
what's the best way to go about fucking a bunny etriambros

Burnblaze
Burnblaze

reminder that the old thread is still up

Raving_Cute
Raving_Cute

@Burnblaze
Quickshot-kun was way too eager to make a new thread

VisualMaster
VisualMaster

@Raving_Cute
gotta show those /sqg/ boogeymen that they're ruining the general by ruining the general

Fried_Sushi
Fried_Sushi

@Illusionz
1. get cyanide
2. drink it you filthy zoophile

Booteefool
Booteefool

@askme
Ayumu is fine too.

Dreamworx
Dreamworx

making the new thread at 730 became a thing
now it's 630
We should aim for 530 next.

Crazy_Nice
Crazy_Nice

@Lord_Tryzalot
@Fried_Sushi
Harbinger before Titles
Miasma Armour -> Auto Miasma. Max it.
Use Paralyzing Reap for the 70% para chance on top of Earthlain's strong LUC.

Harb is one of the worst, if not THE worst, classes before titles, but it's a really unusual outlier.

Nojokur
Nojokur

@Crazy_Nice
I want her to rub my face with those gloves

Spazyfool
Spazyfool

@Dreamworx
After that, 430
330
230
130
30

iluvmen
iluvmen

@Crazy_Nice
Wilting Miasma is solid gold for Chain Killer teams though, and most of the Reap skills hit whole rows.

StonedTime
StonedTime

@Dreamworx
not making new thread as soon as someone replies
casuals

w8t4u
w8t4u

@Spazyfool
open Veeky Forums
entire board consists solely of etrian threads
Pretty sure there'd be more than a couple bans for that, but it's a funny thought

Bidwell
Bidwell

@Crazy_Nice
With auto-miasma, wilting miasma and ATK debuff being part of their basic kit, I'd say they're quite okay.
Necro and rover have rougher starts, at least in how much they can do and for how long they can keep it up.

@iluvmen
You don't get chain killer before titles.

@Dreamworx
We already did that at 500 once. It succeeded.

Methshot
Methshot

@Bidwell
you mean 180

Fuzzy_Logic
Fuzzy_Logic

@Bidwell
Stifling Miasma
I hate this meme.
Necro and Rover have rougher starts
Wraith Cry + Fierce Shield is half of the reason I'd use Necro ever, and even at 99r99 it's sometimes all my Necros ever use, maybe Banefire Breath too.

Rovers get access to Hunter Shot, Aid Command and Target Arrow before titles, and Wing Thrash does fairly good damage in the second Stratum. I actually think that Rovers are some of the better classes before titles.

Emberburn
Emberburn

@Fuzzy_Logic
actually think that Rovers are some of the better classes before titles.
The throne is still for Pugilist

ZeroReborn
ZeroReborn

@Methshot
Was it? I'm pretty sure I let the thread stay overnight before starting a new one.
Or maybe it's a different event. Shitthreading is free and 730-kun has been doing it for over a month now.

Gigastrength
Gigastrength

When do these games get "comfy"? I stress out even in earlier stratas because of random encounters and the only time I feel safe is in the town. I always heard these games were peak comfy though

Harmless_Venom
Harmless_Venom

@Fuzzy_Logic
dumb bunnyposter

whereismyname
whereismyname

@whereismyname
6 days till EO6. Or EO3U, whatever.

SniperWish
SniperWish

@ZeroReborn
730-kun
Believe it or not, the last 2 threads were not made by me

RumChicken
RumChicken

@Fuzzy_Logic
I'd say all melee classes, and even warlocks and herbalists, are more useful and have more of their kit unlocked before second names.

Fierce shielding in the second stratum got my ghosts killed faster than I could summon them, not really worth it.
They still get poison, defense buff and healing, but that's more of a patch than actual full utility, specially compared to what they do after they unlock more skills and have the TP to keep it up.

BinaryMan
BinaryMan

@Gigastrength
when you git gud

Soft_member
Soft_member

@BinaryMan
How do i git gud? I barely understand the combat system and feel like I'm fucking myself choosing abilities that just seem helpful

Fried_Sushi
Fried_Sushi

@Emberburn
It actually is though, their healing is still relevant by then, they have binds and debuffs and can deal enough damage. And if you run dog you don't even get anything too important after second names. Rovers are in fact one of the best choices as pre second names team member.

GoogleCat
GoogleCat

@Emberburn
Some of the better =/= the best.
You can make an argument for Masurao being better, since 1Kats still cast Armour Pierce and High Ground until the very end of the game. Both Pugi specs really want something out of their second names, thought Thunderfist is undeniably exceptional.

I guess it depends on whether you're measuring based on how intact the kit is vs how strong they are in the first two strata, in which case I think I'd vote for Fencers being stronger than Pugilists.

@RumChicken
All melee classes
No. Cannon dragoon doesn't even vaguely exist until titles. Harbinger is the worst pre-title class in the game. Warlocks suffer terribly until titles. Botanists are good though, that's true.
Fierce shielding kills the ghosts faster than I could summon them
You only use Fierce Shield vs FoEs, and you're only using it to buy you turns. You don't care if the Wraiths die, that's the point.
Magic Defense buff
Don't cast this, ever.

New_Cliche
New_Cliche

@Soft_member
I barely understand the combat system
???????????????????
It's a turn based RPG, what are you struggling to understand?
Choosing abilities is hard
It actually is sometimes, but here's what you need to be asking yourself: does this ability SOUND USEFUL, or is this an ability THAT YOU WILL BE CASTING?
Ephemeral Reap sounds really cool, but in practice you won't get any use out of it on a standard Deathguard Harbinger. Bloody Reap sounds garbage, but in practice it's a really useful ability to have. Double Punch sounds like it's incredible, but you don't want to use your basic punches when you have access to Clinch so it ends up being 10 wasted skill points.

Does that make sense? Don't look at an ability and think "Oooh, a healing spell! That's neat!", you should be thinking "In the course of play, am I actually going to be healing in combat, or am I going to be trying to end random fights before I need in-combat healing?".

Supergrass
Supergrass

@New_Cliche
asking yourself
more like asking skill calculator because ingame info is the worst implementation of skill info like ever

Carnalpleasure
Carnalpleasure

@GoogleCat
I completely forgot buster cannon is in a way melee.

Dreamworx
Dreamworx

@Supergrass
You've completely missed my point.
If you look at an ability like Sanctuary, you might "Wow, blocking status ailments and binds? My favourite!", but in practice you're never going to ever use it, ever, because it takes too long to set up, requires buffs to be in play, and removes the buffs in the process.

Meanwhile, Miasma Wall is one of the best ability in the game because it occurs at the start of the turn, with no setup required, and exists outside of buffs and debuffs.

You don't need to look at a guide to figure out why Miasma Wall is better.

massdebater
massdebater

@Dreamworx
why are you so autistic

Deadlyinx
Deadlyinx

@Dreamworx
I actually forgot about that hippocunt post. Had me doubled over

Firespawn
Firespawn

@massdebater
Asking why I'm autistic
When you're literally posting on a chinese picture forum about loli vidya
????????????????
I have literally nothing better to do with my time than to be an autist, wbu?

King_Martha
King_Martha

@Firespawn
whataboutism isn't an argument, sweetie

Stark_Naked
Stark_Naked

@King_Martha
But... I'm not making an argument. We're not having an argument.

Why are you looking for a fight, sugar plum? Can you just have a glass of water and calm down?

cum2soon
cum2soon

@Stark_Naked
sounds like you had a troubled childhood

StrangeWizard
StrangeWizard

@cum2soon
WhereDoYouThinkWeAre.jpg

Evil_kitten
Evil_kitten

@cum2soon
your face had a troubled childhood

Snarelure
Snarelure

@Ignoramus
Her mouth is like a slightly distorted heart. If that's not evidence for dumb bunnys' pureness I don't know what is.

eGremlin
eGremlin

@Snarelure
that's more like a kidney

haveahappyday
haveahappyday

@eGremlin
it's a bean

Bidwell
Bidwell

@Snarelure
More like a kidney bean of some sort

Playboyize
Playboyize

This is how doors were meant to be mapped.

kizzmybutt
kizzmybutt

>>197926224
delet this

Supergrass
Supergrass

@whereismyname
When is the stream anyway?

Nojokur
Nojokur

How do you setup Lures with the Fencer. Predict + Ray of Light?

Stark_Naked
Stark_Naked

@Supergrass
n3ver

VisualMaster
VisualMaster

>>197926224
This makes me physically ill.

Need_TLC
Need_TLC

@VisualMaster
good, finally we found a weapon to end all autism

viagrandad
viagrandad

@Sir_Gallonhead
Cute girl

JunkTop
JunkTop

Second best shopkeep prepared to finally remove salad

Soft_member
Soft_member

@JunkTop
Which one is the best?
Don't say Meme-Edie

Soft_member
Soft_member

@Soft_member
ladyboner

Nude_Bikergirl
Nude_Bikergirl

@Soft_member
"Everything is a meme" meme

Sir_Gallonhead
Sir_Gallonhead

@Nude_Bikergirl
Meme this you lolibba

ZeroReborn
ZeroReborn

@Nude_Bikergirl
dumb edieposter

Sharpcharm
Sharpcharm

@Soft_member
liking redditboner

CodeBuns
CodeBuns

@Sharpcharm
liking redditboner
liking reddie
liking reddika
liking Syreddik
liking Reddigail

Boy_vs_Girl
Boy_vs_Girl

What the fuck was her problem?

TreeEater
TreeEater

@CodeBuns
playing reddetrian reddissey

Booteefool
Booteefool

@Boy_vs_Girl
You had a male in your party.

TalkBomber
TalkBomber

@takes2long
STOP IT

StonedTime
StonedTime

@Boy_vs_Girl
her family has too much money and power

lostmypassword
lostmypassword

@TalkBomber
i'd kys myself if i was stuck in eo3 as well

TalkBomber
TalkBomber

@lostmypassword
shogun pls

whereismyname
whereismyname

How do I reach 15F?

farquit
farquit

Is retiring really necessary in V? Im at level 70 cap right now and wonder if I should retire my main squad.

Flameblow
Flameblow

@farquit
Only for star devourer if you're not using a meme comp

RumChicken
RumChicken

@whereismyname
You need to west of the--
15F
Pardon?

BlogWobbles
BlogWobbles

@farquit
Retiring in necessary for wanking off your 99r99 stats and for maxing out passives that you've always wanted but never had the points to skill up.

Flameblow
Flameblow

@Flameblow

And whats the meme composition?

Is my team of ShieldD, ChainF, DRover, HShaman and Omni meme team?

I also managed to train all up to level 70, without spending a single skillpoint (except few racials) Deathguard Harburgerbringer, Zombie Powder Necro, Barrage Pugi, 1Kat Masauro and 420 Botanist. Also have around level 40 Elemancer, Bunny Fencer, Elven Botanist and Elven Punisher Shaman.

Nojokur
Nojokur

@whereismyname
use the up stairs on 14f

TechHater
TechHater

@Flameblow
Chain Fencer

Any team with either Fencer is a meme.

Gigastrength
Gigastrength

@Flameblow
Meme team is 2 or 3 Therian Impact pugi and supports
Your team is solid but you're gonna need chain all and shield dragoon will be absolute dead weight and you need to respec your warlock to elemancer

FastChef
FastChef

Does this look like okay 70 skillpoints build for Barrage Pugilist? Im not sure since there are so many skills that would be important and so little skillpoints.

MPmaster
MPmaster

@Gigastrength

Why Chain All? And why Shield Dragoon is bad? And why Omnimancer is bad?

FastChef
FastChef

@MPmaster
For chain all and omnimancer: SD consists of multiple regenerating parts
For shield dragoon: his strongest attack(not counting full burst) goes before shield skills

Carnalpleasure
Carnalpleasure

@FastChef

But whats the problem with Omnimancer? She can still activate chains on multiple parts with pierce AOE.

massdebater
massdebater

@FastChef
you aren't going to land any ailments with that shit unless you do clinch all the time but then you may as well just not put so many points into the individual skills. skip clinch entirely if you aren't a bind bitch for a 4kat and invest more points into the individual binds and status ailment up

Fried_Sushi
Fried_Sushi

@massdebater

I thought that Clinch + Breather is good for Leading Blow damage increase. And maxed bind attack skills only means 10% higher chance to land. What Im missing?

New_Cliche
New_Cliche

Looking at things objectively, EOU2 is the best game in the series.

5mileys
5mileys

@New_Cliche
Please give your reasoning

massdebater
massdebater

@New_Cliche
i can't see the game behind all the hp bloat

Bidwell
Bidwell

@Fried_Sushi
it's 10% per hit and you do two with 1-2-punch plus you're missing out on stat atk up. clinch is nice if it works but most of the time it doesn't, not even with black mist. I don't really like pugilists in general except for random encounters where you have enemies weak to binds and they typically die while bound. against bosses you just waste black mist and use clinch and it binds one part at best and that's it. chain blast just does a much better job and frees up a slot for a class that can actually deal damage

Methshot
Methshot

@Bidwell

So it goes like this instead?

Carnalpleasure
Carnalpleasure

@Methshot
leave leading blow and cork screw at 5 and put those 10 into arm crusher and low blow imo. with some luc gear you're gonna be landing ailments comfortably when you do 1-2-p

farquit
farquit

Other than housewives, which etrian would make the best wife?

Illusionz
Illusionz

@Carnalpleasure

Okay, thanks.

Do you also know how to properly build smoke botanist as well? I thought that barrage pugi is skill point intensive but holy shit.

PackManBrainlure
PackManBrainlure

Also, would that be kinda okay Smokebomb build for reclassed Celestian?

King_Martha
King_Martha

Apart from Character Level and Wraith Mastery, does Wraith damage scale off of anything from the Necromancer (for example, their weapon or INT)?

ZeroReborn
ZeroReborn

@farquit
Arbalest

Snarelure
Snarelure

@Methshot
Don't be a pussy and max overexertion.

Harmless_Venom
Harmless_Venom

@King_Martha
It doesn't, I don't think wraith stats scale from the summoner's

Illusionz
Illusionz

@Snarelure

x1.65 damage and 12% max hp cost per strike
x2 damage and fucking 50% max hp cost per strike

Nope.

JunkTop
JunkTop

@Harmless_Venom
Hmm. That's disappointing. I tried using an Auto Roar Dragoon who Counter Guards and Grave on the Dragoon. Surprisingly it worked nicely, but with a maxed out Grave and Wraith Mastery the damage wasn't all that special.

w8t4u
w8t4u

@Illusionz
Needing health when the enemy will be BTFO with that 2x damage
Pugilist do more damage when they are low on health.

Dreamworx
Dreamworx

the old thread hasn't hit 730 posts yet and is still up

askme
askme

@w8t4u

Pugilist do more damage when they are low on health.

Impact ones does. Barrage dont.

Playboyize
Playboyize

@Dreamworx
so what?

Emberburn
Emberburn

@Illusionz
That's only a problem if you're doing a solo Pug run.

Need_TLC
Need_TLC

@askme
Well you should start using impact then because they're much better.

GoogleCat
GoogleCat

@Need_TLC
Honestly this unless you're going for like a chain killer team or something. The damage is so sexy user and it all works so well.

Carnalpleasure
Carnalpleasure

@GoogleCat

I dont really see that, to be honest. Maxed Fortitude, Overex and then just Titan Killer all the day?

AwesomeTucker
AwesomeTucker

RIP General. I enjoyed the activity but that has dwindled now. See you in 3-4 years when we get another EO.

Soft_member
Soft_member

@AwesomeTucker
get another EO
hahaha
Hahahahaha
HAHAHAHAHAHAHA

VisualMaster
VisualMaster

@Soft_member
At least let me pretend.

Deadlyinx
Deadlyinx

@AwesomeTucker
dwindled now
This is how I remember it when I found this place
I'll keep lurking for a bit longer. I want to see the reaction to the stream, no matter how disappointing it is (again) Maybe we'll get EMD3

JunkTop
JunkTop

@Carnalpleasure
Pretty much. Maybe Thunderfist if you're up against a volt weak enemy and Soul Crusher for mobs. Titan Killer with that set up will be 1800% damage which off of a therian (or earthlain I guess) will be fantastic.

You can also cast overexertion on other party members if you have the enemy on lockdown and you can still invest in the binding skills if you want a bit of control as well.

Emberburn
Emberburn

@Soft_member
There is going to be another 3DS EO game though. Of course, it'll be forever Japan only but still.

LuckyDusty
LuckyDusty

@VisualMaster
No, enjoy your despair
@Deadlyinx
Maybe we'll get EMD3
Too bad that won't happen, the great ass explosion when EMD2 was announced was priceless

haveahappyday
haveahappyday

@Deadlyinx
Maybe we'll get EMD3

Lord_Tryzalot
Lord_Tryzalot

@LuckyDusty
the great ass explosion when EMD2 was announced
It was so delicious. I somehow feel like they did it on purpose, that sea view and all

Snarelure
Snarelure

@Emberburn
It's going to be localised at some point, stop being retarded.

SniperGod
SniperGod

@Lord_Tryzalot
they obviously did

BinaryMan
BinaryMan

Anyone know if there's a higher quality version of this? I know it's from one of the Famitsu covers a year ago, but I can't find a version without all the magazine text other than this one.

@Snarelure
I mean, the sales of Atlus 3DS games have been dwindling, and Etrian's never set the Western charts on fire. I'm sure we'll get it in English eventually, but for all we know, it might be another Persona 2: Eternal Punishment PSP situation.

farquit
farquit

How is the rest of the team anyway?

DeathDog
DeathDog

Reminder Atlus only gives a shit about persona and SMT. Enjoy your PQ2 in 3 days and etrian characters being cameos from now on

Playboyize
Playboyize

@DeathDog
Fuck off.

iluvmen
iluvmen

@BinaryMan
cute girls ⭐_⭐

Fried_Sushi
Fried_Sushi

So why is Arken on earth anyway?

TreeEater
TreeEater

@farquit
throw out that bolt slash (or helm splitter if you don't have a way to reliably up hit/immobilize/petrify) and get sword god to max. you could even go all out on petal scatter if you don't have any good aoe damage

Stark_Naked
Stark_Naked

@Fried_Sushi

Because Arken are evolved humans that chill around in universe and seed random planets with life giving trees and then sit around until the race in question gets strong enough to join Arken in their neverending quest.

lostmypassword
lostmypassword

@Fried_Sushi
on earth

Raving_Cute
Raving_Cute

@Stark_Naked
evolved humans
Nani?

Evilember
Evilember

@Boy_vs_Girl
She wants to find a man on her own.

Nojokur
Nojokur

@Stark_Naked
evolved
no fighting prowess
More like degenerated salads.

RavySnake
RavySnake

@Nojokur
evolution minimizes effort, it doesn't maximize performance

MPmaster
MPmaster

@RavySnake
So they became tentaclehorned breeding monsters

Nude_Bikergirl
Nude_Bikergirl

i want to season a salad

Nude_Bikergirl
Nude_Bikergirl

@Nude_Bikergirl
What kind of dressing will you use?

StrangeWizard
StrangeWizard

@Nude_Bikergirl
Thousand Island

AwesomeTucker
AwesomeTucker

@StrangeWizard
3bab: the seasoning
gross

w8t4u
w8t4u

How does one beat Taurus Demon properly?

I mean, while doing this neverending farming for money on 26F FOEs, I began wondering if I can simply Fair Trade those 9999hp Wraiths on this guy but he is too vital for that.

FastChef
FastChef

@farquit

So I get that the rest is fine?

Stupidasole
Stupidasole

@w8t4u
Just legbind them and blow them up. And if you use buffs be careful since they summon a small enemy that can use a skill like clear breath.

RumChicken
RumChicken

@w8t4u
use gold pine resin and plunging attack him

TalkBomber
TalkBomber

@RumChicken

not just rolling away from every attack

@Stupidasole

But they are resistant to leg bind.

5mileys
5mileys

@RumChicken
not having him backhop off the bridge to his doom
Step up senpai

Sir_Gallonhead
Sir_Gallonhead

@5mileys
Heh considering what the 6th stratum is this is pottery.

Sharpcharm
Sharpcharm

@TalkBomber
using the roll glitch

Techpill
Techpill

>>197952946
Kick out the Botanist and get the elemental Prayers (at any level), Dance Oracle and Counter Guard.
A Warlock would be nice for INT-based damage and more Chain activators.

Nude_Bikergirl
Nude_Bikergirl

@Sharpcharm

glitch

I was talking about actual dodge rolling mate.

RavySnake
RavySnake

No Fang, don't smell that!

TechHater
TechHater

@Techpill
I'll try it out, thanks.

Crazy_Nice
Crazy_Nice

@w8t4u
use arm bind, it won't stop his attacks but it will halve the damage, making them survivable. Or just panic him.

Poker_Star
Poker_Star

using Ephmemereal Reap
using Memester Cannon
using Fierce Memeld
using Memesurao
using Memeilist
using Thundermeme

GoogleCat
GoogleCat

@Poker_Star

Whats the problem with Empy Reap?

Seriously, how YOU build good Deathguard then?

Soft_member
Soft_member

@Poker_Star
using the meme meme

girlDog
girlDog

@GoogleCat
playing Memetrian Odyssmeme

BlogWobbles
BlogWobbles

@GoogleCat
it is physically impossible to build a good deathduard

Evilember
Evilember

@BlogWobbles

And best possible one?

lostmypassword
lostmypassword

@BlogWobbles
It's a good thing Etrian Odyssey is digital software then haha

Inmate
Inmate

@lostmypassword
he bought digital

GoogleCat
GoogleCat

@Inmate
haha no I didn't but it's just digital 0s and 1s so it's not real

StrangeWizard
StrangeWizard

@Inmate
falling for the physical meme
>falling for the digital meme

BunnyJinx
BunnyJinx

@massdebater
@Fried_Sushi
@Bidwell
@Methshot
People are still unironically telling people to use fucking One-Two Punch
You're all so fucking bad at this game.

likme
likme

@BunnyJinx
bind pugilists are just shit in general and easily replaced with chain blast

askme
askme

@likme
leading blow is replaced by chain blast

Need_TLC
Need_TLC

You guys make it sound like I'm somehow inferior for buying digitally

TreeEater
TreeEater

@askme
leading blow doesn't do that great damage and you rarely get to use it for more than two turns and especially not for 3 or 4 hits

Fuzzy_Logic
Fuzzy_Logic

@GoogleCat
digital
just 0s and 1s
?????????????????????

MPmaster
MPmaster

@Need_TLC
buying digitally is for cucks

Burnblaze
Burnblaze

@likme
Easily replaced by a five-person Union Skill
Okay, here are the problems with that statement.
1) Chain Blast has a seriously long cooldown.
2) Black Mist + Clinch has comparable, and sometimes greater, bind rate when compared to Chain Blast
3) Barrage Pugilists deal powerful damage in their own right
4) Barrage Pugilists are such powerful supports that I've even seen people use Barrage Pugilists on teams that are ALSO using Impact Pugilists, or that are ALREADY using Chain Blast
5) Two of the four high damage archetypes in EOV want a Barrage Pugilist for Black Mist + Sleep Gas.

@TreeEater
Leading Blow's damage isn't that great
((225 x 3) + 240) x 1.5 = 1372.5% damage.
It deals a fucking ludicrous amount of damage at maximum power.

Boy_vs_Girl
Boy_vs_Girl

@BunnyJinx

But its good. 60% chance for each bind/aliment skill you know so if you are lucky, thats 3 bonus activations. If binds lands, Leading Blow gets boost in damage. Overall, its actually very solid and self-sufficient.

And Impact? Always requiring somebody to protect her due to whole "living on the (hp) edge" style.

hairygrape
hairygrape

@Burnblaze

But people told me to not use Clinch due to poor inflict rate.

Im seriously torn apart, since I dont like resting at high levels. Even if thats "backup" team.

takes2long
takes2long

@hairygrape
that's ass backwards, clinch has one of the highest bind inflict rates in the game

Emberfire
Emberfire

@Boy_vs_Girl
each bind/ailment skill
OTP can't activate Corkscrew
60% chance
individually, and then it has to roll again for the bind to actually land

iluvmen
iluvmen

@Fuzzy_Logic
1's and 0's are just a computers representation of positive and negative voltage that is fed into the circuit haha

Stupidasole
Stupidasole

@Burnblaze
yes and it very rarely gets to maximum power and even then barrage doesn't do much damage so even a high multiplier doesn't help
clinch doesn't work half the time even with black mist, it's just a waste of union gauge half the time. if you're running a burst damage party that's not chain killer then chain blast will serve you much better

@hairygrape
you have like 9 save slots. try out both and see for yourself. I didn't make good experiences with clinch but maybe you will

likme
likme

if we shitpost this thread really hard it might actually die before the previous one

Boy_vs_Girl
Boy_vs_Girl

finally got to the multicolored teleport section anons were posting about in EOV
decide to grab the take point first
Look Out!
"This is the story of Yggdrasil"

Lunatick
Lunatick

@GoogleCat
by focusing on the more supportive aspects, like wilting, eroding, and occasionally atonement and miasma wall, with endless shroud maxed out, to ensure that every debuff refresh comes with a free use of atonement or miasma wall

Carnalpleasure
Carnalpleasure

Condition: kill with curse damage

Who the fuck thought it would be good idea? Seriously, those demonic FOEs in 5th Stratum, its yet another time when I reduce their hp to tiny amounts and simply wait because they receive like 100 dmg from curse and it wears off quickly.

And then that sole point in Fencer counter skill I picked at very first levels ruins everything.

FUCK.

@Emberfire

66% chance it have is still pretty nice.

farquit
farquit

@Carnalpleasure
bring a level 1 with you

TechHater
TechHater

@Carnalpleasure
it is nice but it's rather underwhelming compared to chain blast's 150% AoE. considering it's 1 SP versus 10. (or 16 if we count pre-reqs.) that's ultimately the reason I don't care for barrage, it's way too much SP hogging for everything. I'd rather just run something like hunter shot if I need binds against mobs and not have to worry about my pugilist doing 0 damage because she's arm bound or getting owned because she's leg bound immediately afterword.

LuckyDusty
LuckyDusty

@TechHater
doesn't know the most basic clinch > breather combo

TreeEater
TreeEater

10th attempt to get conditional curse drop
Litteraly pixel HP left
Could it be? Could it be?
Dog attacks for 80 dmg, kills him

FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUCK

King_Martha
King_Martha

@hairygrape
People told me not to use Clinch
Those people are objectively wrong. Clinch does less damage than OTP (duh), but is VASTLY more reliable. It also allows you to perform the Clinch -> Breather -> Leading Blow rotation, which is a seriously dumb amount of damage.

@Stupidasole
Very rarely gets to maximum power
It doesn't need to. Titan Killer has a 600% damage mod. Leading Blow with only two binds is 825%.
Barrage doesn't do much damage so even a high multiplier doesn't help
You've never even fucking used one, have you? Barrage Pugilists have a 4 STR growth, Impact Pugis have a 6 STR growth. They're not that far apart. It's a difference of 8 points at level 99.

TurtleCat
TurtleCat

@Carnalpleasure
Curse damage is still easier to do than killing the Zombie Dragon from a combustion of the fog.

Flameblow
Flameblow

@LuckyDusty
needing 3 turns to kill a random mob
C-c-c-combo!!!
It's shit. Why would I waste 3 turns on a RNG skill when I could easily kill everything in 2 turns or 1 without it? What is the point of using a charge skill on turn 2 when everything is dead (or near-dead) on turn 3? It's pointless. Clinch + Breather is only useful against bosses and FOEs in which case a single chain blast is sufficient.

Using breather the next turn doesn't prevent monsters from attacking you when you're leg bound before the skill activates.

BinaryMan
BinaryMan

guys, DH isn't even good because you don't have 3 binds most of the time
this is how dumb you sound

ZeroReborn
ZeroReborn

@King_Martha
You've never even fucking used one
I did, their damage sucked compared to real damage classes.

iluvmen
iluvmen

@BinaryMan
dhs do outrageous damage with 3 binds, pugilists just average

BinaryMan
BinaryMan

197962397
using strong combos on random encounters

Okay, it's time to stop giving you (You)s.

askme
askme

So I’ve been using barrage pugilist with 1-2, maxed invidual blows, maxed lead blow, and maxed lash out because 1-2>lash is very efficient for exploration and isn’t all that bad on damage. Once I hit 99r99 and have less tp issues should I drop lash out and focus clinch, breather, and lead blow?

Snarelure
Snarelure

Is there a reason to keep a shaman a brownie? I want a celestrian busty enchanter goddess or somesuch

WebTool
WebTool

@iluvmen
500% higher damage than buster meme (a lot more if gou account for 2 turns)
average

idontknow
idontknow

@Snarelure
They are faster and have great Union skills.
Celestrians are so slow your Shaman will often contribute nothing at all in random battles since everything is dead before she moves.

JunkTop
JunkTop

@WebTool
500% * 10 > 250% * 100

iluvmen
iluvmen

fighting Dyrad
Binding Force
Blind land
Chain Killer
Head Bind
Chain Killer activates until everything was binded
Chunk the boss for over 50% of its health

SomethingNew
SomethingNew

@JunkTop
what?

ZeroReborn
ZeroReborn

@ZeroReborn
You must have been doing something seriously wrong. I can get my (Earthlain) Barrage Pugilist to hit for well over 15k with Leading Blow. If I were to go all-out and min/max his damage to the limit, I have no doubt that I'd be able to reach above 25k.

In fact, I think I'm going to go ahead and do exactly that right now.

CodeBuns
CodeBuns

@SomethingNew
if your base damage is shit then 500% doesn't increase it by much compared to if your base damage was not shit

Emberfire
Emberfire

@iluvmen
You've finally expanded your mind, young one.
Properly executed, that strategy with double Fencer will overkill on Turn 1.

TurtleCat
TurtleCat

@CodeBuns
buster meme has low damage
stop
It's a meme because it takes too much setup per use
Leading blow takes 1 or 2 if you're using clinch, and can be used more than once in a row

StonedTime
StonedTime

@CodeBuns
Fair, but what if your "base damage" (I think you mean attack stat) was only 8 points lower than an Impact Pugilist?

Barrage Pugilists have HIGHER attack than Dragoons because they aren't limited by having one of the lowest damage ultimate weapons in the game. Quite the opposite, in fact, Polydeuces is the third highest attack ultimate weapon and the second highest physical attack weapon, beaten out only by Fillia's Zhezl and Ameno Habakiri.

hairygrape
hairygrape

@TurtleCat
clinch doesn't bind anything without black mist, it's basically a wasted turn that could be used to deal actual damage. why would I waste a turn on clinch one target and leading blow one target the turn after when I can just petal scatter and kill the entire field? and against bosses I can just use chain blast and have more than twice the chance to bind all parts with no self bind draw back.

buster meme has low damage
I was implying the opposite

@StonedTime
I don't know about endgame because I subbed mine out for another dragoon in stratum 5 but until then they always lagged behind in damage

Boy_vs_Girl
Boy_vs_Girl

@BinaryMan
Not an argument. I was talking about mobs. Because that's what I said in the first place. Because mobs are the only instance where Chain Blast's union gauge is an issue.

viagrandad
viagrandad

@Emberfire
So how does the scenario go with 2 fencers?

Ailment
Fencer A follows through with Killer and lands a bind under Binding Force
Fencer A goes again until done
Fencer B follows through for every bind that proc'd

or

Ailment
Fencer A follows with Killer and lands bind
Alternates to Fencer B who follows from the ailment as well and lands bind
Fencer A now has to activate Killer from his own bind + Fencer B's bind and vice versa.

Soft_member
Soft_member

The link for the undub luma for the english eo5 is dead. Anyone know where I can undub my game?

Dreamworx
Dreamworx

@Boy_vs_Girl

Not him but why the hell are you all guys acting like if boss battles takes 5 turns max? Sure, with "meme builds" of level 99 characters with top weapons but Im thinking about actual rest of the game.

Actually, Im pissed off everytime I try to figure out optimal way to deal with the game and all I get is "its not as OP as other solutions for muh 99 team with best weapons so its shit".

My party of level 67 needed 18 turs total to kill Tyrant (and survived only by landing binds in critical moments) but everytime I asked, all I got was "lol he dies in 1 turn to muh 99 Chain Killer team".

Emberfire
Emberfire

@King_Martha
It doesn't need to. Titan Killer has a 600% damage mod. Leading Blow with only two binds is 825%.

True, but Impact Pugil gets the passive that increases their damage by 50% when their HP is <50%. Dats huge.

Flameblow
Flameblow

@Boy_vs_Girl
Yours is not an argument. You're comparing a heavy damage skill with conditions to a fucking random encounter clear skill. It's obviously only for bigger and stronger monsters you idiot. Or what, are you gonna complain that Ecstacy is shit because it takes too many TP and doesn't deal enough damage to random encounters without spending at least a turn to fully bind the enemy? If you want to clear random encounters you use Thunder Fist, simple as that.

LuckyDusty
LuckyDusty

@Soft_member

Why you want undub? English voices are fine and actually dont need to turn the voice off in public to avoid people's reaction to japanese moaning.

Fried_Sushi
Fried_Sushi

@LuckyDusty
english voices are fine
playing 3ds in public

Skullbone
Skullbone

@LuckyDusty
I didn't realize there was going to be so much voice acting when I bought the game. If I knew there was going to be audio in every fight I might have opted to pirate the patched cia.

TechHater
TechHater

@LuckyDusty
English voices are fine

StonedTime
StonedTime

https://youtu.be/gCWMUxF9i1M?t=3m50s

What the hell is the demo doing at the timecode when painting wall?

SomethingNew
SomethingNew

@Skullbone
You can just, you know, not give any voices to your characters like you've been doing for 5 games already.

Inmate
Inmate

@Fried_Sushi

Whats wrong with playing 3DS in public?

I was playing my NDS at uni back at engineer tier studies and two times girls from group asked about the game I played and was actually listening with interest about EO and dungeon crawlers. Another proof that games are not only for guys, girls are interested with them too.

Ignoramus
Ignoramus

@hairygrape
Clinch doesn't bind anything without Black Mist
Clinch is the HIGHEST bind rate basic ability in the entire game (outside of Sky Dive, but lmao Sky Dive).
Chain Blast has more than twice the bind rate of Clinch
Factoring in the exceedingly large LUC growth of Earthlain as well as Status Attack Up, Black Mist + Clinch has a higher bind rate than Chain Blast unless the person casting Chain Blast has Status Attack Up themselves. Or is a Rover... for some strange reason???

Barrage Pugilist was lagging behind in damage on the fifth stratum
Possibly because of an awkward skill build. There's no denying the fact that Leading Blow is INCREDIBLY skill point hungry.

Methshot
Methshot

@SomethingNew
I want the jap voices.

Evil_kitten
Evil_kitten

@Methshot
They're shit too. Like yeah they got different VAs for each option, but they all sound the fucking same, at least the female voices, like in the dub. Male voices are (un)surprisingly the only good ones in both languages.

Methnerd
Methnerd

@Emberfire
It's an additive 50%, not a multiplicative 50%. It's one of the better offensive passives in the game, but it's not as good as it sounds.

@Dreamworx
Everyime I asked all I got was "lol lvl 99 team"
You probably got responses like "18 turns is a fucking joke, is your team five botanists?". I don't understand how it's possible for you to take 18 turns to deal 35k damage at level 67, you literally needed to be averaging less than 2k damage per turn.

We're acting like boss battles take around five turns because both times I've played through EOV at this point, almost every boss fight ends in about five turns.

FastChef
FastChef

@Evil_kitten
I simply asked if anyone knew where to get it patched. No idea why you're going off topic and trying to convince me the voices are shit.

Carnalpleasure
Carnalpleasure

@FastChef
You're just wasting your time on something that is unnecessary and of bad quality anyway. I'm warning you.

BlogWobbles
BlogWobbles

@Methnerd
It's an additive 50%, not a multiplicative 50%. It's one of the better offensive passives in the game, but it's not as good as it sounds.

It's free damage for a class that already does a shitload of damage. As long as it's more than the weapon passives, it's gud.

BinaryMan
BinaryMan

@Methnerd

Chain Fencer was dealing a lot less damage than usual but against 5th stratum FOEs she was not doing more than 5k dmg per turn anyway (Chain Plus + Target Arrow + Ruin Prayer + Dance Oracle + activations from Rover, Shaman oracle and Omnimancer spreaded Fireball, at best something like 5 activations, with 800-1100 dmg per activation).

Against Tyrant, she was doing 800 dmg at best, without Oracle, stll with applied Target Arrow and Ruin Prayer. With Oracle, 1000. But still, even with maxed Chain Double, it was not activating everytime, I would say something like 1/3 of the time. So yeah, the avarage was around 2k damage per turn.

Emberburn
Emberburn

@Flameblow
What heavy damage skill? I'm comparing Chain Blast to Clinch. Buster faggot is some other guy. The point is that against bosses Clinch is outclassed by Chain Blast and against mobs it's outclassed by virtually everything - damage skills or other binding skills which don't cripple the user and render them inert on turn 2. Which is when you brought up the whole "combo" nonsense.

Inmate
Inmate

What happens if I download a japanese patched cia when I already have an existing US file?

idontknow
idontknow

@GoogleCat
harbingers suck

Illusionz
Illusionz

@Emberburn
wasting union on chain blast if you can clinch

I'd rather just Clinch the enemy and then use All-Out Attack for a reliable Stun once the binds are gone. This tactic has been working well for me.

Spazyfool
Spazyfool

@BinaryMan
800 base
1000 with Oracle
Is that a level 1 Dance Oracle?

Evilember
Evilember

@Inmate

Nintendo Police will find your house and ninjas will invade with mustard gas.

cum2soon
cum2soon

@Spazyfool

Level 10.

FastChef
FastChef

@MPmaster
Teach dont have a lolibody

takes2long
takes2long

@FastChef
Teach can have whatever body you need.

TalkBomber
TalkBomber

@likme
I'm not worried about legal issues, I'm wondering what happens with an existing save.

Crazy_Nice
Crazy_Nice

@TreeEater
I ended up using a formaldehyde on those guys. It's just not worth the effort.

cum2soon
cum2soon

@TalkBomber
Nothing. Save files are separate between regions. Sometimes they can work if injected to the other games (although it doesn't with EO, as far I know), but they're still stored in a different place.

JunkTop
JunkTop

@cum2soon
Shit, I can't find a single patch online, everything's been prepatched. Do I just bite the bullet and restart?

PurpleCharger
PurpleCharger

@takes2long
Teach is so great

Booteefool
Booteefool

@JunkTop
How many hours are you in to it?

Skullbone
Skullbone

@Booteefool
Noy far at all, just feels awful that I'd have to delete and pirate a game I legitimately purchased.

TreeEater
TreeEater

@Skullbone
Turn voices off and pretend they were never in the game to begin with.

Bidwell
Bidwell

@TreeEater
Now this is the true etrian odyssey

PackManBrainlure
PackManBrainlure

So once again, is everything all right with those @farquit
three builds?

Also, is @FastChef
(Clitch variant) good or I will be better with @Methshot
?

Stark_Naked
Stark_Naked

I really feel like putting the difficulty down to standard for the Flame Demon fight simply because of the hp bloat+lack of amrita plus annoying fight. Even with faffy I feel like the damage output doesn't match the hp bloat that expert provides. Ideally I'd have the hp reduced whilst keeping the damage taken/dealt from expert.

Illusionz
Illusionz

@Stark_Naked
Flame demon isn't even HP bloat, the flame wyrm FOEs almost have as much health as it. Bring max TP up food and pop Arianna's force break when you start to run out.

Bidwell
Bidwell

@Stark_Naked
hp bloat

Oh, it's you again. Time to add another word to my filters.

JunkTop
JunkTop

@Stark_Naked
There's not much hp bloat at that point. Fafnir doesn't even have his damage until 4th or 5th stratum though

Sharpcharm
Sharpcharm

@Stark_Naked
dude link order lmao

Ignoramus
Ignoramus

@Stark_Naked
you're probably a memelord that reclassed flavio and now has no damage

CouchChiller
CouchChiller

@Inmate
japanese patched cia
What the fuck is that, undub? Undub is exactly the same game with a bunch of stuff replaced, just shove your save back if it doesn't get recognised

iluvmen
iluvmen

@TreeEater
actually doing curse conditional
with a fucking summon in party
Now that's a special case of retarded

Soft_member
Soft_member

@Ignoramus
survivalist doing damage meme
calling anyone a memelord
Now that's spicy

farquit
farquit

@PackManBrainlure
Is everything all right with those three builds?
Deathguard
Ephemeral Reap will see almost no use. Don't waste points on it. Don't max any Miasmas, keep them at level 9. It costs 1 fewer skill point and 5 less TP, and all you're trading off is one extra turn of application.
Don't take Masking Miasma unless you're using a Dodge Fencer or plan to otherwise be stacking Evasion. Wilting Miasma is fine to take to 9 points since you've got other status application on your team.
Max Atonement and Miasma Wall, they're the best Status control skills in the entire game and they're half the reason to bring a Deathguard. Max Spirit Absorb, it's one of the passives that scales well with additional points. Paralyzing Reap is cute filler, but I'd take the points out of it to max Atonement/Miasma Wall. Drop any excess points into it, if you have any.

Blade Master
Max Spirit Sword, the damage reduction applies regardless of turn order. Consider maxing Haze Slash if you have someone on your team that really likes hitting sleeping targets. Take on point out of High Ground for the same reason you should take one point out of your Miasmas (or any buff/debuff that doesn't powerspike at 10, for that matter). Take one point in New Challenger for the utility.

Graced Poisoner
What the fuck.

Max Dark Smoke, Numbing Smoke and Chaos Smoke. Max Auto-Smoke, it's one of the best abilities in the entire game. Leave Toxic Smoke at level 2. Leave Smokeblight at level 9, again. Consider picking up one point in Healing Herb and one point in Revival Herb for the out-of-combat utility. Leave one point in TP up for the Lv. 1 value, but consider redistributing points elsewhere.

Clinch vs One-Two Punch
OTP is a filler skill, and not even a very good one. Use it after the monster has built up bind resistances. Clinch is better.

lostmypassword
lostmypassword

@farquit
Don't take Masking Miasma
bullshit, you take one point to dispell evasion debuffs

Emberburn
Emberburn

@farquit
max spirit sword
Don't do this, it only affects the masurao and not the party

massdebater
massdebater

@lostmypassword
This is a good point. Doesn't it dispel accuracy buffs rather than evasion debuffs though?

@Emberburn
It's still [F R E E] survivability on a frontliner that really appreciates it. It's not high priority, but 1Kats are SP efficient.

Fuzzy_Logic
Fuzzy_Logic

@massdebater
1Kats are SP efficient.
not efficient enough to spend 5 SP on unimportant passive

happy_sad
happy_sad

I did it!

@Bidwell
You got the wrong guy senpai.
@Illusionz
@JunkTop
Yeah I concede that I simply needed the tp up food.
@Ignoramus
I haven't done that yet but I am tempted.
@Sharpcharm
It's a good thing I like chain parties since that's basically what Arianna spends her time doing.

Carnalpleasure
Carnalpleasure

@Fuzzy_Logic
But what if maybe they were actually THAT SP efficient?
Actually go through their skills and tell me what you'd dump Spirit Sword for.

Illusionz
Illusionz

@happy_sad
do it now and not in mid stratum 4 like i did

BlogWobbles
BlogWobbles

@Fuzzy_Logic
they have like 70 free sp

eGremlin
eGremlin

@Carnalpleasure
literally anything else, only bad skills there are bolt slash and triple strike

Deadlyinx
Deadlyinx

@eGremlin
Right, but instead of saying "literally anything else" I want you to look at the skills they've got, ask yourself when you'd use them and how frequently you'd use them, and then get back to me.

Triple Strike is decent because it counts as three separate attacks wherever that may be useful, for example comboing with Sanzu or Binding Force.
Petal Scatter isn't worth the SP, I'd rather just use a single-target attack and clear random mobs one by one.
I can't see myself ever using Air Blade.
Whirlwind's damage is too low to be compelling, and as with Petal Scatter I'd prefer to use single target attacks.

My 1Kat is there for High Ground and Armour Pierce, access to certain Union skills, Haze Slash, and sometimes Helm Splitter/Bolt Slash as filler.

Deadlyinx
Deadlyinx

@Deadlyinx
what part of literally anything else did you not get

Flameblow
Flameblow

@Deadlyinx
it counts as three separate attacks
There are much better ways to get 3 activations
Petal Scatter isn't worth the SP
Yes it is, it's the only all target attack worth shit they have
I can't see myself ever using Air Blade.
It's extremely cheap and ranged

Crazy_Nice
Crazy_Nice

@Deadlyinx
There's literally nothing else I want. I just put together a 99r99 build and I maxed Speed Up, Katana Mastery AND Spirit Sword. That's how many fucking free points they have left over.

@Flameblow
There are better ways to get three activations
True. It's neat to know, though.
Petal Scatter
Actually good
It doesn't do enough damage to one-shot unless it crits, and I'd rather not gamble for that. 1Kat is so far away from being the character that I rely on to clear random battles that its legitimately difficult for me to imagine ever using them.
Cheap and ranged
Fair call. How many points would you put into it?

kizzmybutt
kizzmybutt

I just can't fucking believe both threads are still alive.

TechHater
TechHater

@kizzmybutt
im so shocked that me bumping the other thread all day kept it alive ahhhh
use a VPN next time faggot

Sir_Gallonhead
Sir_Gallonhead

@TechHater
calm down 630-kun

MPmaster
MPmaster

@TechHater
???
Nigga you wat?

Emberburn
Emberburn

So why are you using some noname filehoster instead of mega? Doko links are dead.

Evilember
Evilember

Do you love Atlus?

StrangeWizard
StrangeWizard

@Evilember
Man, it truly doesn't deserve it over Nier.

BinaryMan
BinaryMan

@StrangeWizard
Nier is crap.

w8t4u
w8t4u

@BinaryMan
nice b8

Stupidasole
Stupidasole

I just bought this game.

WTF do I even do.

Crazy_Nice
Crazy_Nice

@Stupidasole
Make a classic-balanced (tank-mage-medic-damage-damage) party and you'll be fine.
This game is not Final Fantasy, don't waste your TP.
Only faggots use male characters.

That's all.

PackManBrainlure
PackManBrainlure

2 days left.
Where is the niconico stream?

happy_sad
happy_sad

Alright time to fight Star Destroy-
Credits
Excuse me?

Skullbone
Skullbone

@happy_sad
You have to unseal him by reaching the two events on the floor that do it. They're one tile away of the room before the door, on either side of the gaps.

Illusionz
Illusionz

@Skullbone
Oh okay. Was that just some sort of bad end or something? I wasn't really paying attention

VisualMaster
VisualMaster

@Illusionz
neutral end Arken says it's sealed up, so the only logical thing to do is unseal it

Sir_Gallonhead
Sir_Gallonhead

Almost ded thred

Spamalot
Spamalot

So what do you guys think? Zephyr's Gift (and whatever the basic one is called), worth it or is the return too small?

Inmate
Inmate

OH FUCK I JUST NOTICED MISTERY DUNGEON 2 CAME OUT A WHILE AGO WHERE THE FUCK IS THE SOUNDTRACK SOMEONE HELP

Fried_Sushi
Fried_Sushi

@Inmate
https://mega.nz/#!mJpAhaib!A5GPhcDjoEFl46G_t6niSQwGgP_p85OKerpzF8pH0O8

hairygrape
hairygrape

@Fried_Sushi
Thanks, user, gonna hear it while I jog today. Please, be good.

PackManBrainlure
PackManBrainlure

@lostmypassword
Looks surprisingly normal.

hairygrape
hairygrape

@Spamalot
Depending on the class it might be one of the most important point you will ever spend.
I always get the Gift and the Grace - Gift at level 1, Grace after getting Masteries.

TechHater
TechHater

@hairygrape
Which would you say are worth it, then?

girlDog
girlDog

@TechHater
I always pick it. But Dragoon Grace can often be not all that useful if you don't want to actually use Counter Guard or Divide Guard or Buster Cannon.

GoogleCat
GoogleCat

@Crazy_Nice
As a counterpoint, I would say that don't be stingy with your TP. Unlike other RPGs, you can instantly leave the dungeons anytime you like to heal and pretty quickly return to your last position thanks to shortcuts.

[spoilers]Slumming it out in the dungeon for an entire day with an inventory full of drops is the best feeling though[/spoilers]

CouchChiller
CouchChiller

@GoogleCat
The best is to find a proper balance between sustain and power.

Poker_Star
Poker_Star

@GoogleCat
@CouchChiller
shortcuts are so numerous and predictable in 5 youll never run out of tp before the next one no matter what you do really

SniperGod
SniperGod

We had a good run, but now that the series has been killed we can all go back to playing more Wizardry 1-5 derivatives.

Garbage Can Lid
Garbage Can Lid

@SniperGod
tfw no wizardry 4 thats less insane

LuckyDusty
LuckyDusty

Waiting for surgery, didn't bring EOV with me, still haven't finished it

idontknow
idontknow

@LuckyDusty
hope you get well frend

Spamalot
Spamalot

@LuckyDusty
Hope you didn't forget your ariadane thread.

CodeBuns
CodeBuns

@idontknow
Why thank you, it's just a bad case of avokadohand, nothing too dramatic.

MPmaster
MPmaster

@LuckyDusty
Feels bad man, RPGs are the greatest things to play in hospital.
tfw spent over 24 hours in hospital playing Golden Sun TLA once

ZeroReborn
ZeroReborn

Just reached the third floor and I'm getting my shit pushed by these fucking boars.
I realise my Shaman is dead weight in the party and I need a tank and I have no damage and the only reason Rover is for her dog and some links and nothing else
It's depressing

Burnblaze
Burnblaze

@ZeroReborn
What's your team?

likme
likme

@LuckyDusty
How are they going to cure autism by surgery? Do a lobotomy or something?
@ZeroReborn
make shit team
gets destroyed
blame everything on rover
neo-etrian in a nutshell

farquit
farquit

@Garbage Can Lid
Shin Megami Tensei? Paper Sorcerer?

StrangeWizard
StrangeWizard

@SniperGod
Why would we? They are all shit

JunkTop
JunkTop

So I'm interested in this series, where should I start out? I generally don't hear a lot of good about the Untolds or IV, so should I just go straight for V? I'm too much of a baby for III

BinaryMan
BinaryMan

@JunkTop
Start with 4
just because it's not the best in the series doesn't mean it's not a good game, every etrian is good except 2

cum2soon
cum2soon

@JunkTop
Untolds and IV are literally fine. I know you're looking to be spoonfed, but any game in the series is as good as any other to start with. They aren't linked by plot.

BunnyJinx
BunnyJinx

@JunkTop
I'd say start with 4 as well. Good classes, easier, best music. If you don't like airships, you won't need in later games

takes2long
takes2long

@LuckyDusty
Wishing for a quick recovery. I haven't finished EOV either, so don't feel too bad.

Dreamworx
Dreamworx

@JunkTop
3s a good start spot i think

personally the ability to play it on emu is only reason I was able to get into it enough to be willing to mess with the 3ds

TalkBomber
TalkBomber

@BunnyJinx
Where is bobshark looking?

TurtleCat
TurtleCat

@TalkBomber
shes pretending to look at the phone but acutally looking at forchans reflection and her hearts beating faster and faster...!

Nude_Bikergirl
Nude_Bikergirl

@StrangeWizard
Too many memes have given you brainrot.

Boy_vs_Girl
Boy_vs_Girl

I haven't played EOU1 yet, how quickly can you just rush through story mode to unlock the extra shit because I really don't like the sound of it, but I also don't like missing out

RavySnake
RavySnake

@Nude_Bikergirl
wizardryfag
talking about brain rot
Oh the ironing

Stark_Naked
Stark_Naked

@Boy_vs_Girl
Not sure, just play on picnic if you really just want to rush through
Make sure to get all FOE and enemy drops from gladsheim

Dreamworx
Dreamworx

@TurtleCat
Why is yuri so wholesome?

Fried_Sushi
Fried_Sushi

@Burnblaze
Brawler Fencer (binds, links)
Warlock Shaman Rover (Def/Atk buffs, hound)
Thinking of switching to an ailment team or something since it looks fun
or maybe I'll just deal with it for a bit till I unlock legendary titles
@likme
rover is actually useful since her dog's healing is great but besides that she does nothing other than activate the odd link

Methnerd
Methnerd

Should I be level 99 for Star Devourer?
@Fried_Sushi
Yeah you're gonna need to suck it up and get a dragoon on your team. Consider using alter class on your Shaman for now.

WebTool
WebTool

@Fried_Sushi
target arrow
hunter shot
aid command
nothing
sure pal

Booteefool
Booteefool

@Fried_Sushi
Thunder fist + volt link should be doing shitloads of damage. How are you struggling?

StonedTime
StonedTime

@JunkTop
4 or 5 are good starting points - but it's easier to go forward from 4 to 5 (and maybe pick up the remakes of the first two games along the way) than the other way around since the series gets more and more QoL with every installment.

Spazyfool
Spazyfool

@StonedTime
Let's be honest, if they don't have the willpower to get accustomed to less QoL, maybe dungeon crawlers aren't for them.
Though I agree, it's way easier to go forwards than back

New_Cliche
New_Cliche

help me friends
i can't beat star destroyer, even though i already dropped to basic just for it
i can kill off the components with chain all, but it keeps parrying right when i'm ready to go ham, wasting two entire turns
i'm guessing parry is used every 4 turns
but the real shitty part is the status spam + evasion buffing
give me tips and/or motivation

Supergrass
Supergrass

@StonedTime
It's some of that "QoL" that's turning me off in the first place. Stuff like floor jump in the untolds especially.

BinaryMan
BinaryMan

@Supergrass
floor jump
bad
Only if you love grinding.

Stupidasole
Stupidasole

@New_Cliche
use meme parties like chain killer, impact or buster

kizzmybutt
kizzmybutt

@RavySnake
he couldnt beat the Mad Overlord

I'll pray for you with my local pastor.

Harmless_Venom
Harmless_Venom

@kizzmybutt
Sorry i'm not a neet autist, i need time to beat proper games, not some dnd jerkoff

Booteefool
Booteefool

@Harmless_Venom
could of fooled me

Crazy_Nice
Crazy_Nice

@New_Cliche
post you're party
And don't fight if on basic or it doesn't count

w8t4u
w8t4u

@takes2long
Thanks, I tok a small break when getting halfway in s5. I feel great though, drugs

happy_sad
happy_sad

Does Multi-Katana impact Hell Slash?

Stupidasole
Stupidasole

@happy_sad
only ever put one point into multikatana, any more only affects your normal attack
the more katanas you hold the more chases hell slash can do

lostmypassword
lostmypassword

I need more damage and TP efficiency to beat the damn fire lizard in 3rd stratum of EOIV.

Skullbone
Skullbone

@lostmypassword
If you haven't broken the big scale, do that. It halves its HP and nerfs its big flame attack. The route isn't particularly difficult and you can go back to town to rest and it won't come back for a week or whatever.

takes2long
takes2long

@Skullbone
Oh, so that was the trick to killing it the first time.

Was able to escape from it after running out of TP when it had about 45% health, so I can probably kill it that way.

Kind of tricky to lure it around in circles to break that big scale though.

5mileys
5mileys

@takes2long
Without giving it away too much, start from the right door and lure it downwards

Fried_Sushi
Fried_Sushi

lizard drops scales to heat its lair
basically this place was cold as shit (like the surrounding environment) before it settled there
yet deleting the scales causes the lizard to freeze
the very same lizard which crawled all the way to this cold as fuck cave over cold ass mountains and shat scales all over it without freezing
basically it's too hard for lizard to just shit another pile of scales because reasons
and even more local furry population considers it a threat when you can just remove all scales in timely manner and do like whatever you want with it

Garbage Can Lid
Garbage Can Lid

@Fried_Sushi
It could have climbed up from deep underground or something and set up scales as it went, then the old ones cooled off after a gorillion years so the only heat was from its recent scales.
Looking for logic in an Etrian game is a fool's errand though.

Playboyize
Playboyize

@Fried_Sushi
No bully.

JunkTop
JunkTop

@Fried_Sushi
But the lizard can shit another pile no problem, given time.

BunnyJinx
BunnyJinx

@JunkTop
It takes a surprisingly huge period of time for something that heavily endangers the lizard. They should have just went with two forms - one normal and one with shed scales but that would require effort and we all know atlus ain't spending effort on the series which will never sell.

massdebater
massdebater

@Fried_Sushi
the leader of the furries is a bushi/medic
that means the rest of them are even more retarded

Skullbone
Skullbone

@Harmless_Venom
not some dnd jerkoff

So what are you doing here???

StrangeWizard
StrangeWizard

@massdebater
He's a medic on purpose though

Firespawn
Firespawn

@BunnyJinx
for something that heavily endangers the lizard
Like what?
Explorers haven't been a common occurence for centuries, furries never tried and regular mobs are not a menace.

w8t4u
w8t4u

@Firespawn
Like it literally halves its hp and cuts all the offensive stuff it has, this thing really hates cold

Playboyize
Playboyize

4kat/cannon dragoon/hawk rover
poison bot/ele warlock
This is my party for Star Devourer.
Give it to me straight, am I going to make it?

Burnblaze
Burnblaze

@Playboyize
no synergy: the party
no binds: the party
How the fuck you even made it to 30F

Evil_kitten
Evil_kitten

@Burnblaze
he has a dagger ear
chain blast is the only bind you need

5mileys
5mileys

@Burnblaze
Is my party really that bad? I had no trouble making it this far. My main source of binds was chain blast and hawk head bind skills.

BinaryMan
BinaryMan

just got around to defeating crystal dragon
it's very irritating how bringing in petrify resist sealed the deal. and after all those deaths beforehand

Fried_Sushi
Fried_Sushi

@w8t4u
Yeah, but even in that weakened state there are no threats to it.
So it just needs some extra time to transform the environment to its convenience and be at full power.

ZeroReborn
ZeroReborn

@5mileys
you have a whole lot of damage per person its not that bad really even though its kinda strange and they basically dont interact

honestly im surprised you dont have survival trouble though

BinaryMan
BinaryMan

@Fried_Sushi
i like to think its like making the big scale would leave it naked and vulnerable, it can make a new pile but its not safe to do so while people are stalking around his room, he needs privacy and time to grow back his own coat of scales in the warmth of the big pile

he only uses the scales in the fight when hes near dying too cause hes desperate

Illusionz
Illusionz

@ZeroReborn
What synergy can you have without fencers?

Supergrass
Supergrass

@BinaryMan
you'll never force boiling lizard to make a big scale in public while everyone points at it and laughs

Techpill
Techpill

@Illusionz
you do elemental based team with elemancer warlock with a shaman+dance oracle+necro nad maybe even smoke bombs from the bot

poison bot benefits from harbinger

4kat likes to have some kind of shield, rover/necro/drg, it can fit into an elemental lineup with shaman too though thats not the only thing it can do

hawk rover enjoys 1kat masuraos evasion debuff as it helps with using million arrows as filler for much higher overall damage

cannon dragoon can be built around as a sole damage dealer with buster cannon using pugilist/masurao/shaman etc supports

this team just kinda is, the botanist is your lone ailment person and also only healer, hawks your only binds and its a secondary job for it really (though underrated in my opinion hawk rover binds are quite good)

ele warlock has nobody to proc common magic for them, it has nobody to share amplifier with either

4kat has nobody to keep them alive

its weird i dont think its bad really but its definitely strange

Gigastrength
Gigastrength

umu

cum2soon
cum2soon

@Techpill
Thank you for the detailed post.
I'll have to think about my team composition again.

Raving_Cute
Raving_Cute

This is For-chan, she can now legally get married with Bobshark. Congratulate her.

Snarelure
Snarelure

@Raving_Cute
No one will unironically marry bobshark

Carnalpleasure
Carnalpleasure

@Stupidasole
it feels wrong to have 5 people brave all 30 floors of the dungeon, then 5 other ones only show up for a single 10-minute battle right at the end

@Crazy_Nice
standard chain fencer party
chain fencer/shield dragoon
omnimancer/bird rover/herald shaman
wiping out parts is easy enough with boosted chain freeze, then earthspike + ice peck
my problem is that these keep getting parried, wasting buff durations and the turn it took to use chain all
another major problem is when it just decides to be a cunt and spam status moves, exorcism prayer isn't helping

Methnerd
Methnerd

@Carnalpleasure
What is wrong with cleanup party finishing up what their shitter guildmates couldn't do?

LuckyDusty
LuckyDusty

@Carnalpleasure
use lockdown dude, and you really should use elemancer, hailstorm is much more powerful than earthspike and will skill proc chains

askme
askme

@Carnalpleasure
Why the fuck use chain all there? Aegis shield explosion and put buffs in that turn then just attack parts as soon as they arrive, they should get murdered fast and the rest will spill onto the body

idontknow
idontknow

How do I get a conditional drop from Plague Demon (stratum 5 goat) if I don't have necro or harbinger in my party? I tried curse gas but it missed 4 times before FOE died

Nude_Bikergirl
Nude_Bikergirl

@idontknow
Get a Necro or Harbinger. Or just ignore the conditional.

GoogleCat
GoogleCat

@idontknow
kill under the effects of formaldehyde

likme
likme

@idontknow
curse of formaldehyde

Fuzzy_Logic
Fuzzy_Logic

@GoogleCat
@likme
god I forgot formaldehyde it exist. Thanks for the help, i'm so autistic

TalkBomber
TalkBomber

I have Wraith Mastery, Summon Wraith, Grave and Wraith Dance maxed out on my Necro. Wondering what else to take. Wraith Cry seems nice since I have no one else to debuff defense, but spending a turn to summon a new Wraith seems counter productive unless I also get Grave Keeping and Reincarnation, but that's going to take me another sub 30 levels or so, and even then they don't seem all that reliable.
What else to take, though? I'm mainly using my Necro to Grave my Dragoon who has Auto Roar and Counter Guard.

WebTool
WebTool

@Carnalpleasure
Not as wrong as having other shitty low-level guildmates gain all the honor and EXP when reporting quests and missions.

whereismyname
whereismyname

@Fried_Sushi
I think I might be late here, but
Pugilist/Fencer/Warlock/Shaman/Rover
Literally how are you struggling?
Take Thunderfist on your Pugilist, even if it's only a few points.
Take Chain Burst on your Fencer.
Have your Fencer target one enemy with a Chain skill, have your Shaman and Rover target the same enemy, have your Pugilist target a different enemy with Thunderfist. Thunderfist target dies, Chain target dies, Chain Burst blows the fuck out of the remnants of the encounter, Warlock casts literally whatever spell they'd like to finish off the fight.

Crazy_Nice
Crazy_Nice

@idontknow
There is also a staff with Cursed Flames that can be used to inflict it, but of course, it does a little bit of damage that might very well end up killing the thing if it's at low health.

DeathDog
DeathDog

@LuckyDusty
English voices are fine
"AWESOME SAUCE"
"EPIC FAIL"

Harmless_Venom
Harmless_Venom

@DeathDog
???
Are those lines every actually spoken in-game?

Ignoramus
Ignoramus

@Harmless_Venom
They're some of the battle voices for the character voices.

Also are you really surprised at that with the state of this game's localization?

Nojokur
Nojokur

@Harmless_Venom
UNLEASH THE BEAST

King_Martha
King_Martha

@Nojokur
ARE YOU READY, BASTARDS?

@Ignoramus
Which voices specifically? I've virtually never used the male voices. Even given the state of the localization, I am legitimately shocked that "epic fail" made it in. Reddit localization was a mistake. They fucked up Monster Hunter Generations too, and Monster Hunter's not even a niche series.

CouchChiller
CouchChiller

@King_Martha
I believe it's the battle lines for the Gentle voice.

WebTool
WebTool

shit-eating grin

Spazyfool
Spazyfool

@King_Martha
It's for the Male Gentle voice. Specifically when he wins the battle, and fails to run, respectively. i still havent bothered to change his voice

TreeEater
TreeEater

@Spazyfool
using males

New_Cliche
New_Cliche

@WebTool
Every fucking time that faggot protector gives me that faggot look on her face

DeathDog
DeathDog

@TreeEater
yeah, and i even have a male voice with a female portrait. it's pretty hot

Fried_Sushi
Fried_Sushi

@DeathDog
no
more
gays

TurtleCat
TurtleCat

@DeathDog
i even have a male voice with a female portrait
it's pretty hot
Tell me more

massdebater
massdebater

@TurtleCat
you know that 2nd female dragoon? yeah.
she kinda makes for a pretty boy

the fact that they're full-clad of armor and their skirt is hard to see didn't really help
now imagine him being forced to wear said skirt during exploration

haveahappyday
haveahappyday

mfw realizing that Amalgolem was a tutorial for Star Devourer
mfw realizing that the Elves knew about Star Devourer when they made Amalgolem
mfw realizing that the Elves were either using Amalgolem to train themselves to vanquish Star Devourer, or were attempting to recreate Star Devourer for their own nefarious purposes, or Amalgolem was just the proto-type, and the Elves are actually in control of Star Devourer and are the ultimate evil of EOV's alternate universe

Illusionz
Illusionz

@haveahappyday
d e e p e s t

Deadlyinx
Deadlyinx

@haveahappyday
or maybe the devs are just hackfrauds and recycled a boss

Sir_Gallonhead
Sir_Gallonhead

@massdebater
forced

BlogWobbles
BlogWobbles

@Deadlyinx
I kid, I kid. I think it's most likely just meant to be a tutorial, and there's no deeper meaning beyond that.

DeathDog
DeathDog

@haveahappyday
Why would that be your face? You better not be aroused by elves or their evil ploys

Spazyfool
Spazyfool

@DeathDog
The more Elves around, the more degenerate doujins will be authored. If they win, I win.

Ignoramus
Ignoramus

@Spazyfool
That's a nice image, we should use it as an OP pic sometime

RavySnake
RavySnake

don't lewd etriams

BinaryMan
BinaryMan

@RavySnake
nothing is safe from lewd
you must accept this eternal truth

ZeroReborn
ZeroReborn

@BlogWobbles
Introducing mechanics or ideas in a relatively safe fashion before later implementing them in more dangerous fights is something the series has done for a long time

and yet every time a mechanic is introduced I still forget to prepare for it

Sharpcharm
Sharpcharm

@Ignoramus
Why would you say such a targeted and hateful thing? Is it because you knew that I'd used it as an OP in the past?

Spamalot
Spamalot

@Sharpcharm
Yes

SniperGod
SniperGod

@Spazyfool
literal shit_posting

PackManBrainlure
PackManBrainlure

@SniperGod
Wrong artist. The original is a bestiality image, if I'm remembering right. That artist has never done scat.

WebTool
WebTool

@farquit

half the reason to bring a Deathguard

Whats the other half?

Overall, its very skillpoint intensive. I mean, I could drop ParaReap completely but again, I want to have at least one aliment inflicting skill on character.

I use 70 points as base since I already drop points into racial stat increasement skills and bind/aliments resist ones + union skills.

Also, I think Im missing something because fresh characters have 3 skillpoints but calculator gives them 77 points on level 70, instead of 72.

Consider maxing Haze Slash if you have someone on your team that really likes hitting sleeping targets

I actually would like to welcome any aliments in. Again, this is "backup team" but I like experimenting and a lot of other classes likes aliments infliction.

Graced Poisoner
What the fuck

Its for Celestrian reclassed as Botanist, solely for Smokebomb.

Here is new propostion, based on your suggestions. How is it now?

iluvmen
iluvmen

Try out new and improved Death's Edge team comp
Already able to hit 99999 with the old one
But this one lets you hit the damage cap EVEN HARDER
I try it out vs Crystal Dragon
I fuck up my Heavenly Aid
I fuck up my Vitality Prayer
I forget to rest out of Spirit Absorb on my Deathguard
I don't even apply sleep
STILL hit 99999
I'm actually sad that the damage cap is so "low", because it'd be nice to see how far you could actually push it. I'm hitting for at least 150k with Sleep there. Why couldn't we have EOV classes in EO2U, where HP bloat would actually make these sorts of insanely high damage numbers useful?

Bidwell
Bidwell

@iluvmen
I just want disgaea type damage in EO
Not for any particular reason other than big numbers get me hard

GoogleCat
GoogleCat

@Bidwell
This desu

whereismyname
whereismyname

@Bidwell
@GoogleCat
Fuck off disgaea is shit

kizzmybutt
kizzmybutt

@WebTool
What's the other reason to use Deathguard?
Extremely high action speed due to Miasma Armour's (2.5x speed at max).
Eroding Miasma, Masking Miasma, Wilting Miasma, and a level 5 Ruinous Prayer via Prayer Scythe (27% vs 35% from a level 9 Ruinous Prayer).

Deathguards are actually incredibly strong support characters, I can only assume that the reason they have such a bad reputation is because people struggled 1-20 with them, and then never played around with them at postgame.
They're very SP intensive
Not really? Atonement, Miasma Wall, two Miasmas of your choice, that's about all you need. Fill the rest up as the levels come in.
I'm missing something
You gain 1 SP per level +2 at level 1 so you start with three, and gain an extra 5 with titles. You can gain up to an extra 10 via Retire bonuses.

whad de fugg
I was confused because you had a smoke botanist that wasn't maxing out their ailments, and smoke botanists are very good at applying ailments when reclassed from Celestrian. Your builds are fine now. I will note that Miasma Wall is actually better than Atonement, because preventive care is better than treatment. Consider taking points out of Healing Herb, you only need the single point for out of combat healing. If you still want to use Smoke Bomb (understandably as it hits like a truck), take points out of whichever smoke skill you value the least.

hairygrape
hairygrape

@whereismyname
Oh, Horror-chan~
Don't say such silly things!

WebTool
WebTool

@whereismyname
But disgaea had that readhead loli in it, it must be good

Emberburn
Emberburn

How powerful is Goreblade weapon skill?

PackManBrainlure
PackManBrainlure

@Emberburn
it's a bit like petal scatter but it buffs you on top of it. worth it imo, especially if you don't have any other aoe damage skills

New_Cliche
New_Cliche

Teach
Blackbeard was a pirate
his real name was Edward Teach
buccaneer is a blonde
buccaneers are pirates
I cracked the code. Teach isn't disguising herself as princess in EO3. She's disguised as the blonde buccaneer.

TreeEater
TreeEater

@New_Cliche
no ass
Can't be teach

Methshot
Methshot

@New_Cliche
Where would teach find boobs like that?

Poker_Star
Poker_Star

@New_Cliche

Teach will forever be EO princess :3

AwesomeTucker
AwesomeTucker

@Methshot
IS THAT A-

Playboyize
Playboyize

@AwesomeTucker
HOLY SHIT

Methshot
Methshot

Im sorry but I dont follow

Nude_Bikergirl
Nude_Bikergirl

@Methshot
J-J-JAM IT IN
You lost me

Stupidasole
Stupidasole

Nuking Etria... with no survivors

Stark_Naked
Stark_Naked

Anyone happen to know if there are aby wallpapers of the 5th stratum from EOV? In particular the image you see in the background when you enter the menu? I really love the aesthetics of it so I'd like it as a wallpaper. If all else fails I guess I'll just have to crop the intro cInematic for the 5th stratum.

MPmaster
MPmaster

What are these blue triangle on a black background FOE icons for?

Snarelure
Snarelure

@MPmaster
Isn't that your party?

RavySnake
RavySnake

@Stark_Naked
I'm looking for them in the game's data but so far I haven't found anything. The only backgrounds I found were the intro backgrounds, but they are broken in a weird way.

@MPmaster
Oh wait, are those for when you're floating in the fifth stratum?

But scratch that, who is this? Is it for a later quest? I'm currently in 29F and haven't seen it.

Fuzzy_Logic
Fuzzy_Logic

@MPmaster
I'm not sure, but I want to say that they're for some kind of friendly unit.

eGremlin
eGremlin

@RavySnake
Is that real?

Need_TLC
Need_TLC

@RavySnake
Fucking woah

BunnyJinx
BunnyJinx

@Sharpcharm

So, who want to spank bad girls?

FastChef
FastChef

@eGremlin
Not sure if it's used, but it's definitely inside the cartridge.

Also, early Fencer design. For some reason it's stored as a screenshot.

ZeroReborn
ZeroReborn

@RavySnake
Doing Gods work user. This was a crop I took but man the 5th stratum is beautiful so not having an official image sucks. That said there are larger images for the other stratum up to and including the 4th in pre release stuff so...hey the artbook might have it! Ah it'll be impossible to find someone who's uploaded it to an acceptable degree of quality though.

Fuzzy_Logic
Fuzzy_Logic

@FastChef
Very interesting! I'm glad they didn't go with that though, that's even more bland than the nene we got

New_Cliche
New_Cliche

@FastChef
rare nene
they used U2's first stratum background
lel

Methshot
Methshot

@ZeroReborn
an acceptable degree of quality though
This
The guy did rip his artbook apart to give it to us though, I appreciate that

StrangeWizard
StrangeWizard

superboss of eo5 wields plasma cutters
Isacc is that you buddy?

SomethingNew
SomethingNew

For-chan Smirks!

Bidwell
Bidwell

@StrangeWizard
"Fuck you, and fuck your labyrinth."

TreeEater
TreeEater

@FastChef
I wonder, does the nippon just have the class names we already know or is there anything else

FastChef
FastChef

@ZeroReborn
Apparently they aren't stored as a single image, but broken down in layers, so you'll have to use Photoshop to build the actual backgrounds. I don't have anything but MSPaint so have all the pieces:

https://mega.nz/#!TE5EWTjS!1B2TnFIg9FrPo-MruyNXo0JQLghlvXsrDTQdGApxwOU

Harmless_Venom
Harmless_Venom

@FastChef
Wow this is great thank you very much! I've got the artbook scan which is actually decent but now I can get it at the best quality.

SniperGod
SniperGod

etriam armpits

takes2long
takes2long

@SniperGod
Etriam pits

Ignoramus
Ignoramus

@SniperGod
Etriam butts are better

Fuzzy_Logic
Fuzzy_Logic

@Ignoramus
I'm sorry I don't quite get it, Etriam what now?

Nojokur
Nojokur

@FastChef
@Harmless_Venom
I have to confess I have no idea how to combine these kek but I know eventually I'll get it done. It's interesting to see the game breaks em down though it makes perfect sense.

BlogWobbles
BlogWobbles

@Fuzzy_Logic
お尻

whereismyname
whereismyname

@FastChef

If its in layers, Gimp can be used as well and its free.

LuckyDusty
LuckyDusty

@BlogWobbles
けつ

JunkTop
JunkTop

@StrangeWizard
I just played both the dead space games again for the first time in like 7 years, damn they hold up.

Stupidasole
Stupidasole

@whereismyname
Nice. Here's the crop anyways of the night version. Is the forest ring part of Yggdrasil or on top floating between it and the stratosphere?

StrangeWizard
StrangeWizard

@Bidwell
fuck your labyrinth
It would appear some pioneers in this thread have already begun this noble endeavor.

New_Cliche
New_Cliche

So with 5 being a giant meme, what are the actually good Etrians?

Stupidasole
Stupidasole

@New_Cliche
V

Harmless_Venom
Harmless_Venom

@New_Cliche
only 1 and 2

Spamalot
Spamalot

@New_Cliche
U2

CouchChiller
CouchChiller

@New_Cliche
1 2 3 4 5 1U 2U PQ EMD EMD2
and the mobile gacha game

Crazy_Nice
Crazy_Nice

@Stupidasole
No, that one isn't good either.

SniperWish
SniperWish

@New_Cliche
implying any of them are good

DeathDog
DeathDog

@SniperWish
not even coloring it in the background's color

BlogWobbles
BlogWobbles

@DeathDog
not painting under teach

TurtleCat
TurtleCat

develops a war crime
calls it a game

How do they keep getting away with this

BlogWobbles
BlogWobbles

Which etrian should I think of while going to sleep tonight?

BinaryMan
BinaryMan

The absolute strongest possible single target heal in EOV with maxed out passives and 255 WIS heals less than a Medica IV with Herbology
That is unfortunate.

Magic attack from your staff doesn't influence healing, right?

Crazy_Nice
Crazy_Nice

@BinaryMan
correct.

farquit
farquit

@BinaryMan
@Crazy_Nice

Not him but is there any sense to use staff on Herald Shaman instead of Bow?

cum2soon
cum2soon

@farquit
stat sticks or free skills, I think a basic bow will be more useful than a basic staff obviously but a single staff can potentially be more useful than a single bow

y'know

Lunatick
Lunatick

@BlogWobbles

Teach.

Always Teach.

Dreamworx
Dreamworx

@BlogWobbles

cass

Sir_Gallonhead
Sir_Gallonhead

@BlogWobbles
perverts

Lunatick
Lunatick

So I'm playing the original one, how did you guys map the directions of the moving tiles in stratum 4?

Stark_Naked
Stark_Naked

@Nojokur
I tried. Used all but one piece because I didn't know where the fuck it goes (the weird red/blue/black glow). Not 100% the same, but it's the best I could do. I don't know how useful it's going to be though, considering it's wide as shit but not very tall.

Supergrass
Supergrass

@Stark_Naked
Looks damn nice user

eGremlin
eGremlin

@Stark_Naked
very nice, could you upscale with waifu2x, that might make it useable

iluvmen
iluvmen

@Lunatick

I was using warp icon as "start" tile plus actually drew walls across the routes (I was not drawing walls anyway). It really sucked how they didnt introduce arrows yet.

By the way, I was marking shortcuts as doors with note mark. Funny, right?

Inmate
Inmate

@Lunatick
you might unironically want to consider swapping to pen and paper for 1 the further you play
but for those what i used was delete the floor tiles on moving tiles and place a wall on the last tile in the direction it dropped you off
so when you see a blank tile you know it moves and you follow the path until it hits 3 walls, that's where you get off
in the case of T sections you look at branching paths and the one that didn't end with a wall isn't the correct one

pretty sure everyone did them differently

Spamalot
Spamalot

@Nojokur
neat

WebTool
WebTool

@Inmate
No different tile colors or arrows makes 1 hell to map

PurpleCharger
PurpleCharger

@Crazy_Nice
Rats.

@farquit
Staves give you access to some extremely potent abilities, such as Thunderbolt, but since Herald Shaman is a support class you'll want Bows because they can trigger Chains, give a boost to turn speed, and the two ultimate bows both have potent support skills.

askme
askme

@Boy_vs_Girl
I knew what it was. I knew it. And yet I clicked it

Bidwell
Bidwell

@Lunatick
I believe I used warps for the start and doors for the end.

Soft_member
Soft_member

wraiths dancing on a grave
How is this killing everything?

Lunatick
Lunatick

For most of your EO(U) Landsknecht Needs

iluvmen
iluvmen

By the way, in order to answer that anon's question, I picked up my NDS from shelf - still running despite not being charged for like 3 years- and wow, those feelings. I still consider first game to have best atmosphere and most memorable content.

Need_TLC
Need_TLC

@Lunatick

forehead a cute

Snarelure
Snarelure

Y'know with EO2U going out of its way to put EO1, 2 and 3 in the same universe as well as 5s ending suggesting it's in the same canon as well I really hope they're gonna do something in the final EO game with regards to this. Highlander and Ricky are travelling, the squad from EO2U is headed to Armoroad, Arken is on Earth...

massdebater
massdebater

@Snarelure
EO and EOII were always in the same universe.
And the Armoroad namedrop is really not much.

massdebater
massdebater

I want to fuck Teach

Soft_member
Soft_member

@Soft_member
It's things like this that make me consider if I'm a lolicon.

massdebater
massdebater

That's it. I'm fucking done with the Etrian Odyssey V series. This game is horrible. Between the obscure number crunching and non existent story (really? climb a tree? it's like these people WANTED to make a shin megumi tensei game but somehow were forced to make a filler episode for some shonen anime....) what really finalized my anger for this particular franchise is that they all play the same. You literally always make a party of 5 stupid looking girls and try to level them up. This is especially jarring when you have to fight against some H.P.Lovecraftian elder gods from space. How does a big titted loli kill that?? fucking unrealistic piece of trash from japan, once again. I'm done with this chain of events.

Bidwell
Bidwell

@massdebater
A new pasta? I hope this one dies faster than the last one.
At least pick something funny, user.

Harmless_Venom
Harmless_Venom

@Bidwell
new

Spazyfool
Spazyfool

@massdebater
AND another that really pisses me off is the 5 person parties. Like, why 5? I'm always lacking something in my party and I can't plan for all disaster scenarios like you could in a real party based RPG. I wouldn't be surprised if in the next game Fatlus reduced the party limit to 4 only but kept the same balance. The only way to make the parties even smaller than this is if it was like my birthday parties.

Lord_Tryzalot
Lord_Tryzalot

@Harmless_Venom
New for EOV - at least I haven't seen that one in here since EOV release.

idontknow
idontknow

@Soft_member
Not being a lolicon in the current year

StrangeWizard
StrangeWizard

@Soft_member
teach is like 30

PackManBrainlure
PackManBrainlure

@Snarelure
the persona q of etrian odyssey is coming

LuckyDusty
LuckyDusty

@PackManBrainlure
Classic mode is our savior.

CodeBuns
CodeBuns

Are there any gays in Etrian Odyssey or did faffy kill them all

Dreamworx
Dreamworx

guys help the iron crustacean OHKOs my party even if I defend the ice buttfuck what do i do
tfw im having an easier time with the orgy golem than with the lobster

i'm wondering if there's any other solution than the obvious grinding one

CouchChiller
CouchChiller

Anons!
I beseech thee!

New EOV challenge: clear all five floors of each stratum on a single trip to the inn. I must commit complete FoE genocide on each and every floor.

What party should I run? I need a team that has both exceedingly cheap ways to clear random encounters as well as consistent ways to clear FoE fights, preferrably in only a handful of turns and without the use of Union Skills.

Currently considering a 4Kat / Impugi / Barrapugi / Herbotanist / Herald team comp. Thoughts and criticisms greatly appreciated!

Crazy_Nice
Crazy_Nice

If I have 8kat can Hell Slash activate off Hell slash?

Ignoramus
Ignoramus

@StrangeWizard
And that gif isn't teach.

5mileys
5mileys

@Dreamworx
Bind legs to prevent it from using Ice Slicer.
Use Hail Prayer to reduce damage.
Use Magic Shield or Mana Guard to reduce damage.
Use an Union Skill, Tri-Shield nullifies it entirely.

Thank, you are welcomed!

CodeBuns
CodeBuns

@5mileys
didn't actually expect an answer, thanks
mana guard and tri-shield are my only choices as my comp is absolutely retarded

whereismyname
whereismyname

@CouchChiller

you definitely want a rover with a dog early, you can use encounters with multiple nuts by leaving one alive and havif wveryone defend until dog and animal therapy fully heal you while regenerating tp with the union

after a while youll be crazy overleveled that only foes are gonna matter so you just need a strat to kill them easily

for 4th stratum definitely bring a necro and just powder the sonar guys and trade the rest

reclassing for each stratum makes sense to me

Sir_Gallonhead
Sir_Gallonhead

I can't tell if I like the snowy 3rd stratum theme in EO2(U).

King_Martha
King_Martha

@Sir_Gallonhead
The music? I like it, it's not my favourite in the game but it's still nice enough that I've listened to it on youtube while doing other stuff.

Playboyize
Playboyize

@whereismyname
I considered a Rover, but I feel like the Pugilist offers more and I don't like being forced to reroll a character just so I get a slightly easier 1st stratum, which is already the easiest.

I also want to avoid Necro cheese with 9999 Wraiths. Beyond that, I feel like Necros are too TP intensive to use consistently, and taking a Necro means not taking the 4Kat to clear random encounters.

I'm wondering if maybe a Chain team is stronger, due to Chain Burst clearing random encounters instantly and Chain Killer mincing FoEs.

King_Martha
King_Martha

sweaty bunny

CouchChiller
CouchChiller

Hey, lets combine those little guys who instagib players when it gets damage with higly durable mob that prevents rising up dead party members

Briliant.

Im actually now afraid to rise level cap - with everyone at 70, even death of party members dont break the perfectly even exp for everyone. With level cap, I would have to deal with uneven exp ;_;

Bidwell
Bidwell

@King_Martha
runny
bunny
c____

Burnblaze
Burnblaze

@King_Martha
This artist does good work. A shame their books don't get scanned.
The Tittylist book looks pretty good based on the previews too.

Stark_Naked
Stark_Naked

@Bidwell
cuddling

Harmless_Venom
Harmless_Venom

is the new game gud? Worth buying a 2ds for?

Sir_Gallonhead
Sir_Gallonhead

@Crazy_Nice
Pls respond

eGremlin
eGremlin

@Burnblaze
Name?

Inmate
Inmate

@eGremlin
saucenao

Spazyfool
Spazyfool

@Inmate
Thanks. It wasn't working on the other ones for some reason.

Emberfire
Emberfire

@Harmless_Venom
is eo good

get a load of this chump.

RumChicken
RumChicken

attempt #999
after having obtained useful hints from user, i try to face the deadly lobster again
happens that my gal can't survive if she uses her turn for mana guard but at least it saves everyone else so i just revive her later
everything is going well
runs out of mana
dies
can't get any mana pots

jesus fuck it sucks being retarded

Fuzzy_Logic
Fuzzy_Logic

1 day left

BlogWobbles
BlogWobbles

@RumChicken
Move your Dragoon to the backline so she isn't being targeted when Ice Slicer hits your frontline.
Just fucking use Tri-Shield already you mong, it's one of the best Union skills in the game.

Boy_vs_Girl
Boy_vs_Girl

@Fuzzy_Logic
I want to impregnate Angie and live in the Deep City with her

w8t4u
w8t4u

@Emberfire
EO:Untold 1 and 2 were turds. So bad that I sold my 3ds.

Skullbone
Skullbone

By the way, does the undub version use the same save as the undubbed cia? Don't wanna restart.

@BlogWobbles
damn i never thought of that
also out of points for it will get it next, thanks anon-kun

DeathDog
DeathDog

@w8t4u
Fuck off Teachfag.

Crazy_Nice
Crazy_Nice

@AwesomeTucker
sweatertits

Booteefool
Booteefool

@Sir_Gallonhead
PLS RESPOND

PurpleCharger
PurpleCharger

@Booteefool
Error 0x0000F0: Responses pool ran out, please try later

askme
askme

@Crazy_Nice
No idea.

Emberfire
Emberfire

@Booteefool
Hell Slash can't proc off of itself but a single proc can activate hell slash for both bunnys. So pugilist thunder fist will result in bunny a hell slashing then bunny b but that's it.

Playboyize
Playboyize

@Emberfire
Alright thank you.

Fried_Sushi
Fried_Sushi

I can't wait to fuck up Revolver Wilhelm. What an asshole.

MPmaster
MPmaster

@SniperWish
I love this picture so much

TalkBomber
TalkBomber

Thanks for the tips to kill Lobster-kun! I finally did it, had to luck out towards the end (ran out of mana), lived because it decided to hit my bunkers for like three turns.

hairygrape
hairygrape

@TalkBomber
Ran out of mana
Please don't tell me you started the fight on full mana, too.
Have you upgraded your equipment? Are you using buffs and debuffs?

Fuzzy_Logic
Fuzzy_Logic

@hairygrape
I did start on full mana qq
All my weapons are +5 (you can only upgrade the weapons, right?) and I did use buffs, and only buffs because I didn't want to use mana on debuffs as I was trying to not get insta-plowed by ice fuckery in the first place

GoogleCat
GoogleCat

@Fuzzy_Logic
What's your team comp, and why are you dealing negative one billion damage to a monster with a Volt weakness?

VisualMaster
VisualMaster

@GoogleCat
Dragoon, Masurao, Reaper, Necromancer, Herbalist

Booteefool
Booteefool

@VisualMaster
For reference, before EO5 I only played through the first dungeon (or whatever they're called) of EO4 and then EO5 released during my playthrough so I just moved over to it.
What I mean by this is that I have no idea what the fuck I'm doing.

Evilember
Evilember

@Booteefool
its kinda low damage

you specifically picked a team thats really bad early game, after second stratum things will improve pretty drastically for you

killing iron crustacean easy/fast is more a test of if you have a pug and/or fencer then anything else anyway

eGremlin
eGremlin

@viagrandad
Solor onee-sama

iluvmen
iluvmen

@Evilember
thanks for the tips anon-kun
so now I know that I'm not *that* incompetent

haveahappyday
haveahappyday

oof, I have not picked up eo5 in like 5 days because I dread respecing my entire team

Sir_Gallonhead
Sir_Gallonhead

@haveahappyday
I have not picked up eo5 since I started work, in like 10 days.
I hate the no neet life

DeathDog
DeathDog

@VisualMaster
That team comp
Christ almighty. No wonder you were struggling. The boss of the second Stratum is going to absolutely roll you.

CodeBuns
CodeBuns

@Booteefool
Okay then. When you're building a team in Etrian Odyssey, you MUST have an answer to these four questions:
1) Can I deal significant single-target damage?
2) How will I survive large amounts of incoming physical damage?
3) How will I survive large amounts of incoming magical damage?
4) Can I quickly dispatch a handful of low health targets (preferrably in a single turn)?

Following on from that, further questions to ask yourself of your team composition include:
5) Can I remove or prevent status ailments?
6) Can I remove or prevent binds?
7) Do I have a source of healing?
8) Do I have a source of revival?
All of these are FAR less important than the first four. 5 and 6 are sometimes very important as there's almost always a few bosses that revolve around ailments or binds, but 7 and 8 are basically just out-of-combat utility.

SO.
Looking at your team of Dragoon / Masurao / Harbinger / Necromancer / Botanist, which of those questions do you feel you have a stronger answer to? What stands out as needing a better answer? Alternatively, what strikes you as something that you are OVER-prepared for?
Something else to consider is that you have three buff slots and three debuff slots, so good teams usually come close to filling every buff and debuff slot. Don't freak out if you don't have exactly three and three, but four in total is a good standard to keep.

Garbage Can Lid
Garbage Can Lid

Good night Etriam. See you in Armoroad

LuckyDusty
LuckyDusty

that eo3u trailer
jesus fucking christ. calling it now, fafnir will get merged with the yggdrasil core

Burnblaze
Burnblaze

@LuckyDusty
EO3U trailer
Why would you tease us with such a cruel post?

Raving_Cute
Raving_Cute

@viagrandad

Pull the trigger, Mediko.

massdebater
massdebater

that floor in Ginnungagap where you can't ariadne thread out
you can't even run away from the FOEs, so if you get caught by one you either have to fight it or die
since you have to fight FOEs anyway, you might as well just bruteforce the floor by killing the 2 of them that block your way
Jesus fuck, I love EOU2 but it annoys me every time.

Methnerd
Methnerd

New class/heroine reveal for EO3U

Harmless_Venom
Harmless_Venom

@Methnerd
He thinks we can't read the fine print

WebTool
WebTool

@Methnerd

Ramewl a cute.

Flameblow
Flameblow

@MPmaster
Gold

Are Ygg buds here too?

Burnblaze
Burnblaze

@Fuzzy_Logic
what event is gonna happen thats gonna announce best game?

TechHater
TechHater

@Burnblaze
p5 dlc and emd2 news. nothing more, keep your hopes where they are

MPmaster
MPmaster

@TalkBomber
guy, I want eo3u so bad. I want to see the revamped classes, I want to see the clones and pets having their own slots, I wanna see the 3d busty fishwomen, I want to hear missys voice, I want.. to see the story end.

but I know better. emd2 might be the last game in the series

cum2soon
cum2soon

Don't let your hopes and dreams die yet!
I just wanted to post least popular pug

iluvmen
iluvmen

@cum2soon
He needs no pity since he got to fuck Warlock.

Dreamworx
Dreamworx

@iluvmen
That doujin and the other two before it were great. Part 4 when?

I need more Warlock gangbang.

Stupidasole
Stupidasole

@massdebater
You get three of the "escape from battle" items that work against the FOEs.
If you mess up more often than that you deserve to die.

whereismyname
whereismyname

why are you so ded etriam

Lord_Tryzalot
Lord_Tryzalot

Just started playing EO5 and messed up my team so now i'm restarting. Questions

Does Magic attack stack from Elemancer and Punisher? Would being a punisher with the 3 single warlock ele skills and magic atk from punisher skill be worth it?

Would a team of 3 front line dps with a decoy shaman and botanist be good? or would i be missing out without a tank or backline dps instead of a shaman? what about a decoy botanist?

New_Cliche
New_Cliche

@Lord_Tryzalot
Decoys
magic attack stacking

user kun i dont understand your accent

everything stacks though in EO5

you want at least 3 of your team as dedicated damage dealers probably, some specific strategies can let one person handle it but in that case the other 4 all back up that one person, not dealing enough damage or under/overestimating how much one person can or will do is the biggest mistake most people make when constructing teams I feel like

Gigastrength
Gigastrength

@whereismyname
I was just sleeping

Methnerd
Methnerd

@whereismyname
Most people finished EOV and are running out of ecchi to post

StonedTime
StonedTime

@Lord_Tryzalot
Do you mean the attack buffs? Yes, they stack additively in EOV - but you only have three buff slots per character.
Not sure what you mean with a Punisher and 3 single Warlock skills - Punishers are Shamans and there is only one single target Warlock skill in each specialisation.

Going both tanksless and without ranged damage sounds like asking for trouble - if you have no tank you need to end your battles fast. If you have only melee attacks that is pretty hard.
And what is a decoy Botanist?

SniperWish
SniperWish

@Methnerd
running out of ecchi to post
Oh I have plenty

AwesomeTucker
AwesomeTucker

@whereismyname
Blame EOV for being so crappy

Gigastrength
Gigastrength

@whereismyname
because that's a normal state of this general and series dumb teachposters

Methshot
Methshot

Traveling around 26F
Two rays and one binding guy
Always acted before binds but this time he cast first, binding entire party
Nobody does anything due to binds
Rays cast their AoE
Everyone is asleep
Two turns later, three party members are dead, in next turns one another died and one manages to escape

Im afraid of going deeper ;_;

Overall, Im on 27F and it seems that I will be jumping across floors all the time. Do I absolutely have to increase level cap, tho? I cant stand uneven exp and it seems like my girls will be dying a lot but at the same time I dont know if levels 70 will be able to stand against 30F obstacles.

Emberfire
Emberfire

@Methshot
You want to increase your level cap for random encounters to be less annoying.
Also all level cap bosses have a kill quest associated with them and skipping quests is bad.

You should already have your first level cap quest since you reached 27F.
If not, talk to Jenetta a bit, find her on 3F afterwards, ask her what she wants and then do the quest that unlocked because of that in the bar.

JunkTop
JunkTop

@Methshot
Stop being a fucking pussy

Bidwell
Bidwell

@Emberfire

And in case I would want to reach new level cap, is farming 26F FOE with Soul Gatherer active and two Necros still the fastest and safest way to grind experience?

Soft_member
Soft_member

@Raving_Cute
dont post stuff like this it hurts

Ignoramus
Ignoramus

@Soft_member
not self-inserting as highlander

whereismyname
whereismyname

@Ignoramus
self-inserting

lostmypassword
lostmypassword

@Ignoramus
id rather self insert as arianna

CodeBuns
CodeBuns

@Ignoramus
self-inserting
ever

eGremlin
eGremlin

@CodeBuns
@whereismyname

Self-inserting helps dealing with harsh reality, you know?

@lostmypassword

Thats cute

@Raving_Cute

Thanks for reminding me how lonely I am.

PurpleCharger
PurpleCharger

@lostmypassword
Getting that faaf dick I presume

idontknow
idontknow

/vg/thread/198127675#p198127675
/vg/thread/198127675#p198127675

Deadlyinx
Deadlyinx

@idontknow
quickshot kun you did it too early again you gotta wait til we're finished

CodeBuns
CodeBuns

@idontknow

50 posts too early

Its /feg/ all over again.

eGremlin
eGremlin

@CodeBuns
Is /feg/ a good place?

TreeEater
TreeEater

@eGremlin
Is /feg/ a good place?

BunnyJinx
BunnyJinx

@eGremlin

They keep talking about how SNES Emblems are "the best", how 3DS Emblems are "casual" and "shit", about how much money they spent on mobile shitty game and rolls related while 50% of posts are memes.

Techpill
Techpill

@BunnyJinx
they're not wrong

StrangeWizard
StrangeWizard

@Techpill

Well, I played Awakening for 120 hours total and Fates for 220 hours total and they are not shit.

massdebater
massdebater

@StrangeWizard
they are very much shit

Evil_kitten
Evil_kitten

@Techpill
@massdebater

/feg/ please go.

Burnblaze
Burnblaze

@StrangeWizard
They're shit and so are you.

Raving_Cute
Raving_Cute

@Evil_kitten
no

hairygrape
hairygrape

@Burnblaze

Go to bed, grandpa.

BunnyJinx
BunnyJinx

Cant we just fill the remaining 30 posts and call it a day?

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