/bbg/ - Bloodborne General

TurtleCat
TurtleCat

Cosmos Edition

Grounded: /vg/thread/197790691#p197790691

New players read this finish the story mode offline:
https://i.imgur.com/1OynzXF.png

/bbg/ Resource, Builds & Mechanics Guide:
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1TlAjZSvmE979gbayTvpioT72n5A7_bUjMNCLuOatJTQ

DLC access:
http://www.bloodborne-wiki.com/2015/09/the-old-hunters.html

Build planner:
https://mugenmonkey.com/bloodborne

AR calculations:
https://pastebin.com/zGphv4fF

Chalices:
-Guide to unlock FRC chalices for spelunks & fight clubs: https://i.imgur.com/KgVUkyd.jpg
-Gem farming, lost/uncanny weapons, and runes spreadsheet: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1syKnSKflHbFiGY4pXkfIeXoMa2Lp9X1aXyme2qaTen4
-2nd gem farming spreadsheet: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1q9enxffA3dyKGu6IVg-P4IVgmKSUYSP9UOOiThHmPIU
-How to summon/invade in a chalice: https://pastebin.com/mjRU01XK
-SFRCs & FDs: https://i.imgur.com/yRxbVsN.png (if you want early T3 runes, wheel, chikage, or burial blade)

PVE & PVP - Spelunking/sinister chalices:
-Spelunks happen. Join em. Leave bell-ringing women alone for invaders.
-Sinister chalice race on Friday at 6pmET/11pmUTC (if enough show, spelunks otherwise)
-Race rules & signup: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1PIWNIOpp2j3Hc7XJBZu_1yEYKAEIXxHEXiY0--sykqw

PVP - Fight club (Every Saturday 6pmET/11pmUTC plus impromptus whenever):
-Rules: https://i.imgur.com/E8zcBcQ.png
-Pthumeru: n6rc9jh8
-Loran: jjpkdcgd
-Isz: 9v8qndas

All urls found in this thread:
https://i.imgur.com/1OynzXF.png
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1TlAjZSvmE979gbayTvpioT72n5A7_bUjMNCLuOatJTQ
http://www.bloodborne-wiki.com/2015/09/the-old-hunters.html
https://mugenmonkey.com/bloodborne
https://pastebin.com/zGphv4fF
https://i.imgur.com/KgVUkyd.jpg
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1syKnSKflHbFiGY4pXkfIeXoMa2Lp9X1aXyme2qaTen4
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1q9enxffA3dyKGu6IVg-P4IVgmKSUYSP9UOOiThHmPIU
https://pastebin.com/mjRU01XK
https://i.imgur.com/yRxbVsN.png
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1PIWNIOpp2j3Hc7XJBZu_1yEYKAEIXxHEXiY0--sykqw
https://i.imgur.com/E8zcBcQ.png
https://webgames.host/uploads/2017/03/the-simpsons-bart-vs-the-space-mutants.png
https://twitter.com/SanadskYoutube/status/938545609342103552
https://youtu.be/KXiXXqSA8xE
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1PIWNIOpp2j3Hc7XJBZu_1yEYKAEIXxHEXiY0--sykqw
http://www.strawpoll.me/14571780
http://www.strawpoll.me/14571780
http://www.strawpoll.me/14571780
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2MPPIqRJbEA
https://boards.fireden.net/vg/thread/196236256/
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iWFgvbf_Zu8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P3ALwKeSEYs
https://www.gamespot.com/articles/dark-souls-3-interview-it-wouldnt-be-right-to-cont/1100-6432425/
https://www.gamespot.com/articles/dark-souls-3-director-talks-franchises-legacy-poss/1100-6441636/
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jsy4iZ5shzM
Dreamworx
Dreamworx

Impromptu isz in, join all.

Lunatick
Lunatick

Alright, boy-o's, describe a boss with another video game

Rom, the Vacuous Spider

Need_TLC
Need_TLC

grab him by the spider cloaca

takes2long
takes2long

Does wearing eye runes give me any sort of advantage when farming for gems?

Flameblow
Flameblow

S-sorry Teague

Playboyize
Playboyize

@takes2long
Farming boses ? Nope
You raise the chance of getting 2 chunks, but thats it

w8t4u
w8t4u

This is the first time I got parried when trying to finish someone with a gratia, thank fuck it went through. Did not even know it was parryable, although I guess it does make sense.

Bidwell
Bidwell

Where's the FC?

Nude_Bikergirl
Nude_Bikergirl

@Bidwell
@Dreamworx
There is a hint in that post.

Spazyfool
Spazyfool

@Nude_Bikergirl
I'm dumb. Anyways, heading over to Isz now

massdebater
massdebater

@w8t4u
The crappy arrow whiff with the bowblade is parriable too

RavySnake
RavySnake

@massdebater
Makes me wonder if torch smacks are parryable as well.

iluvmen
iluvmen

cybil.. I'm gonna give this one more attempt and then I'm calling it

Burnblaze
Burnblaze

play online for a bit
the dream's landscape is ruined by all the fucking spectre spots from bloodletter players

PackManBrainlure
PackManBrainlure

I am bad at my job.
PURGE FILTH

Nojokur
Nojokur

@iluvmen
sorry but I'm tired as hell and cursed rom is a bunch of horseshit. thanks for coming back, but I need to sleep.

Lord_Tryzalot
Lord_Tryzalot

Anyone spelunking? I'd like to join.

Sir_Gallonhead
Sir_Gallonhead

@Burnblaze
dont forget chikage afkers

Stark_Naked
Stark_Naked

@iluvmen
fug, we could always get a 3rd person to join

Inmate
Inmate

@Nojokur
Alright, thanks for hosting Teague sweet dreams

ZeroReborn
ZeroReborn

finally got FRC roots again. They had better streamline this in BB2

StrangeWizard
StrangeWizard

Wait, did I not blood-bullet, Fang?

TechHater
TechHater

Church pick in tricked mode is all thrust attacks, right? How much would the untricked mode suffer in terms of damage if I only put thrust gems on the weapon?

w8t4u
w8t4u

@TechHater
All thrust attacks, yes. As for untricked, the first R1 is thrust and the rest are slash attacks.

TalkBomber
TalkBomber

Close one.

viagrandad
viagrandad

Quick, post an underrated weapon

Emberburn
Emberburn

@TalkBomber
Youre quite the pingmaster today

kizzmybutt
kizzmybutt

@Emberburn
I am? I guess I'll restart then.

Illusionz
Illusionz

@RavySnake
They are

@TechHater
Less than half of the untricked mode is Thrust (1st & 4th r1, r2, roll/step r1 and l1)

Boy_vs_Girl
Boy_vs_Girl

@w8t4u
@Illusionz
All right, if that's the case then I guess I can just get two church picks and gem on for thrust and the other for physical to utilize both movesets

likme
likme

@kizzmybutt
Dont worry, i will be leaving now for the night anyway , good fights ygolr and cheese

takes2long
takes2long

@likme
You too, user. Pleasure fighting you.

King_Martha
King_Martha

tfw only one in Isz

hairygrape
hairygrape

@King_Martha
It is kind of late for the majority of bbg no? Its 11:10 pm here

Spazyfool
Spazyfool

@viagrandad
*posts boomhamer*
People just love smashing themselves into fully charged r2's and l1 followups

Dreamworx
Dreamworx

@likme
@King_Martha
@hairygrape
Ye, good fights, but I am bailing out as well, its 7 am here. I usually stay for longer than just an hour but my stamina is emptied.

Sir_Gallonhead
Sir_Gallonhead

@hairygrape
10 PM over here. I might just go farm.

TurtleCat
TurtleCat

@Dreamworx
Wish i could play bb in the morning like that

eGremlin
eGremlin

@TurtleCat
Where are the old links for gem-farming? The ones that lead to the Bloodborne wikia and suggested what kind of gems to farm for that specific weapon?

Methnerd
Methnerd

Does anyone else feel bad for Orphan? It crawls out of the corpse of its mother and is immediately attacked by some random asshole

CodeBuns
CodeBuns

@Methnerd
The entire DLC is the tale of a tragedy. Bloodborne is as much cosmic horror as it is Gothic horror, and with that territory comes tragedy. I always interpreted the cinematic's dialogue as saying it's not a great solution, but it'll have to do, for this tragedy that could not be answered for.
a bottomless curse
a bottomless sea
accepting of all that there is, and can be
We didn't really end curse, not truly, we just sort of dumped it, killed it, threw it under a rug it'll never get out of. It was a messy end to a messy situation. The Old Hunters is a bad fucking feeling throughout.

Skullbone
Skullbone

does anyone want to help with Ludwig? Im a whirlgig noob and Ive been stuck forever and want to progress for once

Playboyize
Playboyize

@Skullbone
I'm down, password?

LuckyDusty
LuckyDusty

@Skullbone
I'll be there in a minute

farquit
farquit

@Playboyize
bbg is the password. fair warning, I suck ass

WebTool
WebTool

@farquit
Ringing.

Sir_Gallonhead
Sir_Gallonhead

@farquit
ring a ding ding

farquit
farquit

@Skullbone
@viagrandad
fextra

Skullbone
Skullbone

@farquit
Are you at the lantern just before the fog gate?

LuckyDusty
LuckyDusty

@Playboyize
@LuckyDusty
@WebTool
@Sir_Gallonhead
@Skullbone
Thank you guys so fucking much, seriously.

BunnyJinx
BunnyJinx

@LuckyDusty
Still not picking you up.

Lunatick
Lunatick

@BunnyJinx
Little tardy to the part my friend.

Raving_Cute
Raving_Cute

@Burnblaze
those bloodstains around the doll in the abandoned workshop
that sound when you hit it
Spooked me real good

askme
askme

Perfect BA gem after just five attempts

King_Martha
King_Martha

@askme
There's multiple types of BA gems ya know.
I personally ended up getting 3 perfect dirty, 4 perfect bolt, 2 perfect fire, and even a perfect pulsing gem before getting a perfect arcane one

viagrandad
viagrandad

@King_Martha
I got a 23.1% arc + 14 arc for my Kos Parasite. Beast Down but that doesn't really bother me since I'll be using it for PvP

Flameblow
Flameblow

Reiterpallasch blood damage is only applied via the trick pistol correct?

King_Martha
King_Martha

@Flameblow
Yes.

Methshot
Methshot

@Flameblow
Yes

Lunatick
Lunatick

Things get a little abstract at this point.

Techpill
Techpill

@Lunatick
Similar to Gael in Dark Souls 3, it looks like this blood-spattered body is applied through the Age value.

Spazyfool
Spazyfool

@Lunatick
@Techpill
Are crooked eyes and a crooked mouth just typical Yharnamite features?

iluvmen
iluvmen

@Lunatick
What the shit

TreeEater
TreeEater

@Techpill
Regarding Gael, do you know how to get his beard with Savewizard?
Also are all those deformed faces in the game or just experiments? I only recall the old woman, the skeptical man and the beggar.

Stupidasole
Stupidasole

@TreeEater
In order we have:
Lonely Old Dear, Yhara'Gul (Rifle Spear), Yahar'Gul (Cane)
Djura, Narrow Minded Man, Suspicious Beggar
Forgotten Madman, Madman's Escort

As for Gael, all you need to do is set your Age to 3 (0 being Young, 1 being Mature, 2 being Aged). You can't get just his beard, you'll get his entire face. The beard (and parts of the face) clip through any equipment you wear.

LuckyDusty
LuckyDusty

@Stupidasole
The age data is stored near the stats, right?

StrangeWizard
StrangeWizard

@LuckyDusty
It's stored in the facedata block. I haven't checked DaS3 myself, but if it's anything like Bloodborne it should straight up have the word FACE in plain text at the beginning of it.

The value that's 64 here is Age, so on a scale of 0 to 2, the Beggar's age is 100.

Booteefool
Booteefool

@StrangeWizard
Wow, you really are the best. Thank you very much for all the work you're doing.

Poker_Star
Poker_Star

whats the most aesthetic L-hand weapon? im partial to the evelyn

Methshot
Methshot

@Poker_Star
Ludwig's rifle, no doubt.

Bidwell
Bidwell

@Poker_Star
Piercing Rifle

BinaryMan
BinaryMan

important question to all you guys who duped the executioner rune, do you have to kill alfred while he's chilling at the entrance to forbidden woods? or can you dupe it when he finishes annalise and he goes back to where he was when he gave you the fire paper?

i'm wondering because i want to have the roar gesture but he only gives it to you after he murders the cucks

Methnerd
Methnerd

@BinaryMan
Go back to where you first met him and the rune will be on his corpse.

farquit
farquit

got home from work at 6am
time for bloodborne
It's been so long since a game has taken hold of my life like this

askme
askme

Does the Tonitrus require heavy investment in ARC to be of any worth?

Nojokur
Nojokur

@askme
Not really, I get pretty decent damage on it with just 15 arc, 40 str, and tempering gems, over 400 for an R1 when buffed.

hairygrape
hairygrape

@askme
Nah, just a bit of Arc and you'll be smashing things weak to bolt.

Booteefool
Booteefool

@askme
Yes, 25 Str 50 Arc and Nourishing Gems (with +bolt secondary effects) to maximize the damage.

RavySnake
RavySnake

how do I kill defiled hot doggo? kirkhammer doesn't seem too effective

girlDog
girlDog

@RavySnake
Beast Cutter Tricked 2 at range

Burnblaze
Burnblaze

@RavySnake
Focus on hitting his head, until it breaks: then, break its forelegs and hit the head for more damage; eventually, repeat the process with its rear legs.
Play unlocked, run away for explosions and dodge toward it, if it does the jump attack.

Soft_member
Soft_member

@RavySnake
Go for the head, go for legs during lava vomits. Get something with range and quick recovery to slap his face while baiting/spacing out head swipes

Flameblow
Flameblow

@Burnblaze
@Soft_member
I've been focusing on its head, baiting out its bites which leaves it open for an attack. I can hit it for 1k damage with a charged R2 to its head when it's down. It's usually miss-timing an attack that usually gets me, since the Kirk is slow.

I'll try out a different weapon, perhaps the Beast Cutter as @girlDog
suggested.

Thanks for the advice anons, I'll take a quick break and see if I can take this doggo down.

Need_TLC
Need_TLC

@RavySnake
doggo is weakest to thrust, tinge, and phys damage

SniperWish
SniperWish

@Need_TLC
Fuck I forgot serrated

King_Martha
King_Martha

struggle all night with Isz Ebrietas on a str character
fail
waltz in with my arc character and fucking destroy her first time
ARC is broken

takes2long
takes2long

@Lunatick
Fighting enemies in the streets of Yharnam

No, a BOSS
Ebrietas, Daughter of the Cosmos

https://webgames.host/uploads/2017/03/the-simpsons-bart-vs-the-space-mutants.png

Methshot
Methshot

farming isz watchers for a fire triangle
jesus christ

@Lunatick
jesus CHRIST

viagrandad
viagrandad

@Need_TLC
Muh >>/d/ick

kizzmybutt
kizzmybutt

@PackManBrainlure
Keep at it, good user! We appreciate you and what you do!

Firespawn
Firespawn

@King_Martha
What's your ARC build?

Nojokur
Nojokur

@kizzmybutt
WRONG.
Oh boy I can only imagine the followup

SomethingNew
SomethingNew

@Firespawn
50/28 arc/str, nothing special
Each ACB was ripping off about 2k per go

likme
likme

@King_Martha
No shit. She's extremely weak to bolt and tanky against physical.

Emberfire
Emberfire

Why is the tonsil stone called the tonsil stone?

RavySnake
RavySnake

@Emberfire
It looks like a tonsil

Spamalot
Spamalot

Zullie, if you are reading this. Could you please create a false Depth FRC Chalice, but label it Hintertomb?

I'm really curious what will happen to gem drops. Specially a FRC Ihyll with a gem in a chest. +70 flat BLT here we come!

takes2long
takes2long

anyone want to help me do failures and then maria? pass bbg01

idontknow
idontknow

You know the nearly naked guy with the Logarius Wheel that shows up sometimes in Chalices? Now you know him just a bit better.

@Spamalot
There has been some discussion before and most people seem to have been in favor of deliberately avoiding anything that might generate gems the game normally wouldn't.

Garbage Can Lid
Garbage Can Lid

@King_Martha
Willem was right all along

VisualMaster
VisualMaster

@takes2long
pass bbg01
Why don't you just use "bbg", /bbg/?

idontknow
idontknow

@idontknow
Is it the default face with a different skin tone?
@takes2long
Ringing.

takes2long
takes2long

@RavySnake
Really? Huh. It also looks like an Amygdala's head. I wonder if there's any significance to that.

Firespawn
Firespawn

@VisualMaster
i dont know

@idontknow
ty alba and madman

Crazy_Nice
Crazy_Nice

@idontknow
There has been some discussion before and most people seem to have been in favor of deliberately avoiding anything that might generate gems the game normally wouldn't.

I get that, but anyone with the editor can just give themselves Cursed Abyssal Odd Bloodtinge Gems anyway.

How would people feel about remaking Pwmf22gu and labelling it either Isz or Loran? None of the gems would be technically impossible, just effectively giving yourself 99% chance for offshapes instead of 1%.

I'm more curious to see exactly what happens than getting overpowered gems. Although a reasonable Farm for Radial elemental Madmen gems would be a godsend.

askme
askme

@Crazy_Nice
Cursed Abyssal Odd Bloodtinge
It adds +70 bloogtinge damage and +50 to bloodtinge scaling
BUT
HP gradually depletes -12
Would you?

New_Cliche
New_Cliche

@askme
Yes.

I'd slot it in my Blunderbuss (or Ludwig's, whichever gets more damage) and just put 3 Pulsing gems in my right hand weapon.

girlDog
girlDog

@New_Cliche
Ok, but how about...
60% more thrust damage
BUT
-200 to all scaling?

Methnerd
Methnerd

@idontknow
Queen Killer is literally Feels Guy
he's just REEE'ing out against the roasties, which is why he's a dedicated "Queen" killer

Sharpcharm
Sharpcharm

@girlDog
Uh, that would causing Lower damage than no gem in pretty much all circumstances.

LuckyDusty
LuckyDusty

@Sharpcharm
+270 to arcane damage and +80 to arcane scaling
BUT
Durability down 550?

eGremlin
eGremlin

@LuckyDusty
Flat damage and Scaling don't actually synergise very well, since flat damage doesn't get boosted by scaling, while %gems work really well with any other type of damage boost (excluding flat).

However since the numbers are so grossly high, that gem would still be gamebreskibgly powerful. And since you can only lose 1 point of durability per hit anyway, that curse is no different to a regular Dura Down.

GoogleCat
GoogleCat

@Crazy_Nice
Anyone actually use the editor? What's it like?

kizzmybutt
kizzmybutt

@idontknow
Just do the same shit DomTheBomb did for dork souls on consoles dude

People who give themselves gimped gear will not change or dissapear regardless

RumChicken
RumChicken

@kizzmybutt
fuck off

w8t4u
w8t4u

@kizzmybutt
Muh childhood

Emberburn
Emberburn

no posts for an hour
slice of life/weird stuff webm dump

Soft_member
Soft_member

last one

MPmaster
MPmaster

Gonna get plus later today or tomorrow. You boys better be here for some fun coop.

farquit
farquit

Guys, what would happen if Arianna's baby lived rather than got killed for the cord? Would it be a danger?

Raving_Cute
Raving_Cute

FUCK RED SPIDERS

Techpill
Techpill

Farming watcher fire triangles
Finally get one
27.2 + dura down

Fuzzy_Logic
Fuzzy_Logic

@farquit
Most likely

lostmypassword
lostmypassword

@GoogleCat
I considered making a video tutorial on how to edit gems and runes but the Bloodborne community is just so full of butthurt honorfags I can't be bothered.

Flameblow
Flameblow

@lostmypassword
thank you
t. bh

GoogleCat
GoogleCat

@farquit
I would grow into those frenzy inducing Baby Great Ones like which you see at UCW.

Techpill
Techpill

@Crazy_Nice
@kizzmybutt
Right now the bullshit gems are behind a $60 paywall. Putting them in a chalice anyone could use would make it way more likely to encounter them.

Illusionz
Illusionz

I got a bloodtinge gem I have a question about.

Stats on it are blood ATK UP +31.5%, ATK DOWN -7.6%

My question is if I stick that on a gun does the atk down even do anything? Guns only do BLT damage right? What about lost chikage how does atk down affect it?

VisualMaster
VisualMaster

@Illusionz
It will get reduced anyway, the same thing happens with elemental gems

Sharpcharm
Sharpcharm

@Illusionz
Attack Down affects all kinds of damage iirc. If it was just physical it'd say so.

GoogleCat
GoogleCat

spend ages fighting the orphan but finally managed to abort him yesterday
think "ahh, what a great game. it's finally over"
only just now remembered that laurence exists
FUCK

Nojokur
Nojokur

I use the choir bell on this thread

TreeEater
TreeEater

@GoogleCat
Rev up that pizza cutter.

GoogleCat
GoogleCat

@GoogleCat
If you can take OoK you can down Laurence the Legless Wonder.

GoogleCat
GoogleCat

I'm considering going back to bloodborne after having completed it some 10-15 times and I've read there's a way to basically edit the game to give you the best gems etc?

Is this true and if so how is it done?

Lunatick
Lunatick

@GoogleCat
Buy save edito and learn how to use it lmao.
Other than that, there are cheated chalices that are llwer depth than they actually are, th3y have 20-21% gems but that is far from perfect, will just save you a bit of time.

haveahappyday
haveahappyday

So there are four different face IDs used by Arianna. Her first face is blushing and her others pale, which I expect is either tied to the phases of the night or to her blood donation. Strangely, there doesn't seem to be any difference between her second and third face, but her 4th is rather corpse-like. Similarly, Adella has three different faces, where the first and second aren't different, but the other is like a corpse.

StrangeWizard
StrangeWizard

@haveahappyday
The last face is the face she makes after being impregnated by the MP.

Ignoramus
Ignoramus

@Techpill
Wouldn't a Cursed Odd Tempering work just as well?

Physical damage boosts BLT, so you just need to safescum a chest until you get a Circle offshape.

But ignoring that, a FRC dungeon with Hintertomb gems would be cool. Lots of Poison and Beast/Kin hunter gems in addition to the normal physics effects of Pthumeru.

haveahappyday
haveahappyday

@haveahappyday
Arianna confirmed Irithyllian

Poker_Star
Poker_Star

cloudy snowy morning

What are you guys doing?

Supergrass
Supergrass

@Poker_Star
comfy

Illusionz
Illusionz

@Poker_Star
finished nutting to tranny porn due to thread on /v/ so playing in post-fap afterglow
preparing some chippers and dip
probably gonna play some DS1 or DeS

Things are pretty good right now famalam

eGremlin
eGremlin

@Illusionz
finished nutting to tranny porn due to thread on /v/ so playing in post-fap afterglow

Inmate
Inmate

@Poker_Star
Working

CouchChiller
CouchChiller

@Poker_Star
Recording stuff.

girlDog
girlDog

What's the Shadow of Yharnam and where do snakes tie in into that whole cosmic spook?

cum2soon
cum2soon

anyone farming heavy abbysal?

Spazyfool
Spazyfool

@cum2soon
I can farm some, what glyph do you have open?

Inmate
Inmate

@Poker_Star
Trying to get through the last story chalice dungeon on my BL43 bom/church pick char. I fucking hate pthumerian descendant so much

Fried_Sushi
Fried_Sushi

@Spazyfool
ksg. but fuck i screw up, i removed the chalice by mistake. need to run the chalice, gimme 10 mins

Inmate
Inmate

@eGremlin
Hey dude, don't kinkshame. And I only fap it to very select few 3d traps anyway. I've been holding my Accursed Brew in for a few days now so I deserve a little self-molestation time.

@CodeBuns
I like DS3 DLCs's as well, but I really like how at the end of Bloodborne you don't really feel like a Big Damn Hero storywise although gameplay wise you do,you feel more like the clean up guy who had the unpleasant task of burying a dog that your boss drunkenly drove over. Very fitting to the DLC's thematic.

Spamalot
Spamalot

@Fried_Sushi
ksg what, everyone uses different anyway, so I have to run it too.

Emberfire
Emberfire

@Inmate
spongebob-kun's already up

Supergrass
Supergrass

@Spamalot
ksgqnycq, i will let you know if im @layer3
pass: kegs

Need_TLC
Need_TLC

@Emberfire
I'm not that sponge retard.

@girlDog
Shadow of Yharnam
Very likely spies / personal body guards / assassins of Undead Queen Yharnam. The snakes are more of a Madaras twins' thing because they befriended a weird snake that died but the Madaras whistle can still summon the snake from the nightmare.

massdebater
massdebater

I'm just stealth spelunking, don't mind me.

likme
likme

I am just after Rom, I was supposed to reach Lumpy ages ago but I liked the idea of doing the DLC underpowered and made it to the Fishing Hamlet. Are Hamlet gems better than Lumpy's?

DeathDog
DeathDog

@Supergrass
Ye, I am ready.

Methnerd
Methnerd

@DeathDog
i will [email protected], setting up save scum one moment

haveahappyday
haveahappyday

@DeathDog
i'll host now ringing

Bidwell
Bidwell

@Spamalot
@DeathDog
I will join too, already got ksg opened. Still need an open foes abyssal.

Dreamworx
Dreamworx

no good. ringing again

SniperWish
SniperWish

@Bidwell
Just got one lol

RumChicken
RumChicken

@Bidwell
did you get your password right?

Booteefool
Booteefool

@SniperWish
Fag.
@RumChicken
Yesh.

haveahappyday
haveahappyday

@SniperWish
kek i just got the same gem

Crazy_Nice
Crazy_Nice

@haveahappyday
You gonna keep?
If so then i'll set up my save

MPmaster
MPmaster

Lore question here :
Is mergo the nurse ?
What is the nurse ?
What is Mergo himself ? When do you kill him ? Do you even kill him ? If not what was the point of all this ?

Inmate
Inmate

so, whose turn gonna ring now?

Garbage Can Lid
Garbage Can Lid

@Methnerd
Feels Guy

Supergrass
Supergrass

@Crazy_Nice
yep im keeping

TreeEater
TreeEater

@Supergrass
Ye ok, i'm ringing.

5mileys
5mileys

@Emberburn
what if that was a 1-in-9999 milliong chance encounter that required a special interraction and you threw it all away

it couldve been another undead giant man

Stark_Naked
Stark_Naked

@5mileys
1-in-9999 milliong chance encounter

You mean 1 in 2,300.

Burnblaze
Burnblaze

@MPmaster
Is mergo the nurse ?
No Mergo is the baby in the carriage.
What is the nurse ?
A great one taking care of the baby.
What is Mergo himself ? When do you kill him ? Do you even kill him ? If not what was the point of all this ?
Mergo is the baby of Oedon and Queen Yharnam. It dies when you kill wetnurse. The point is that the Moon Presence sends you out to hunt Great One babies.

Emberburn
Emberburn

@MPmaster
Mergo is the baby in the carriage, it's NOT the Wet Nurse.

what is Mergo itself?
Mergo is implied to be a stillborn infant of the Great One Oedon and Undead Queen Yharnam. Even though Mergo is probably dead in the waking world, through cosmic fuckery he's still alive in the Nightmare. When Mensis wanted to contact the Great Ones, they wanted something like the Moon Presence, but instead they got the nightmare newborn, Mergo.

That's also why you see Queen Yharnam outside of the MWN bossroom, she's crying after her dead infant and after you kill Mergo, if you go back and interact with Yharnam, she bows to thank you I recall.

Raving_Cute
Raving_Cute

@MPmaster
The wet nurse is a wet nurse. Something that isn't the baby's mother but is responsible for keeping it alive.

Mergo is a Great One's child. He dies a little while after you kill the Wet Nurse because he was in some way reliant on her.

likme
likme

@5mileys
It's probably just a spawn marker for mad ones

TalkBomber
TalkBomber

@Burnblaze
@Emberburn
@Raving_Cute

Well perfect, thanks guys

BunnyJinx
BunnyJinx

gems no good. but i got a blood rock though

Crazy_Nice
Crazy_Nice

@StrangeWizard
She's impregnated by Oeden, not MP

Firespawn
Firespawn

Stop downloading shit, ygorl.

New_Cliche
New_Cliche

@Firespawn
fuckin 3 times now. not even an abyssal

Gigastrength
Gigastrength

@Firespawn
I didnt notice I was standing slightly over the line, lmao.

Skullbone
Skullbone

God, fuck Abby.
I can only tank her charge so many times. If the AI was smarter it could just spam this single attacks for guaranteed hits. The only way to dodge it is to already be sprinting around her unlocked when it starts.

SomethingNew
SomethingNew

@Skullbone
walk left then roll left just before the head hits you

Poker_Star
Poker_Star

writing like chat/discord retards in a board
kill yourselves you avatarfagging redditors

ZeroReborn
ZeroReborn

@Gigastrength
It's like you're srrcing but you're right next to us

likme
likme

make my first depth 5 FRC
witches fucking everywhere spamming hyper-agressive mad ones with next to no leash
nope
Give me back my bell maidens. I'll take those any day over this horrible shit

PackManBrainlure
PackManBrainlure

Started a Str/Arc build 'cause I'd never done it before & I've not done the DLC yet. I'm on 20 Vit, 20Str & 60 Arc at the minute as lvl80, is that a decent point to go into the DLC or should I have went in sooner?

Also how do I git gud wit the Wheel, I'm getting rekt when I try to use it, but my fire infused stuff is fine, but I find myself just cheesing shit with the tools so far.

Carnalpleasure
Carnalpleasure

still shit

iluvmen
iluvmen

@ZeroReborn
I always have shit connection to your brit ass in particular, even with aussies it seems to be better. If it continues to be like that I will just bail out, dont want to drag you down.
Reloading the area does seem to help a bit though.

Dreamworx
Dreamworx

@iluvmen
britbong
I'm swedish though.

Flameblow
Flameblow

HOW DO YOU BEAT THIS MOTHERFUCKER HOLY SHIT
WHY IS IT THAT IN THIS DAY AND AGE PEOPLE STILL HAVEN'T FIGURED OUT THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN SOMETHING CHALLENGING AND BULLSHIT HARD?
IF I GET HIS ONCE I'M FUCKED BECAUSE EITHER I HEAL (AND GET HIT AGAIN SO I DIE) OR TRY FIGHTING WITH HALF HEALTH AND HOPING SOMETHING GOOD WILL HAPPEN
AND DON'T EVEN GET ME STARTED ON HIS SECOND PHASE

10/10 I'M MAD

Raving_Cute
Raving_Cute

@Dreamworx
Oh, sorry, I was lied to then.
svenska ass*

DeathDog
DeathDog

@Flameblow
ur bad kid

Emberburn
Emberburn

@likme
Sorry for insisting, but should I just farm the Hamlet Winter Lanterns or is it worth it to start Chalices and go to Lumpy now?

Evil_kitten
Evil_kitten

@Emberburn
Hamlet

BinaryMan
BinaryMan

@Evil_kitten
Thanks, user.

AwesomeTucker
AwesomeTucker

@DeathDog
fuck you and fuck your memes

massdebater
massdebater

@PackManBrainlure
Sooner if you swapped 10 from Arc and put it into Vit. It's not advised to go above 50 Arc for Str/Arc since it's the final softcap and you'll want 40-50 Vit with at least 25 Str. It's not that bad if you go above BL100, just get Vit to 30+ and jump into the DLC for now

Sharpcharm
Sharpcharm

Gonna restart my ps4 ygorl and gin

AwesomeTucker
AwesomeTucker

so did anyone gone good gem?
not good so far

lostmypassword
lostmypassword

@AwesomeTucker
I've had like 3 abyssals in total

iluvmen
iluvmen

@lostmypassword
got several but the curse are bad
atk+15
atk down beast

Firespawn
Firespawn

@iluvmen
That's pretty good.

lostmypassword
lostmypassword

Unused dialogue baybeeee
https://twitter.com/SanadskYoutube/status/938545609342103552

New_Cliche
New_Cliche

@Firespawn
not wanning or triangle

TreeEater
TreeEater

tfw got greedy for rally juice
Why am I like this.

Skullbone
Skullbone

@lostmypassword
"the ps4 developer"
Who?
Also hype, hidden lore here we go

Emberburn
Emberburn

@yharnamite
so you haven't got any gem you liked?

Soft_member
Soft_member

out of shape abyssal
15 phys
atk down :^)
I just wanted an uncanny/lost arm for vanity reasons, why did it have to be this way.

girlDog
girlDog

@Emberburn
Nope.

PackManBrainlure
PackManBrainlure

@Flameblow
Want me to help?

Techpill
Techpill

@iluvmen
Beast and Kin down are some of the best curses, dude

girlDog
girlDog

@Techpill
Not if you want to pve

WebTool
WebTool

@girlDog
?
don't put it on a weapon you fight that type of enemy with

kizzmybutt
kizzmybutt

@WebTool
?
Or just get the stamina up curse

FastChef
FastChef

i got a session lost, need to restart. 1 moment

Gigastrength
Gigastrength

@kizzmybutt
farming for literally 3 times as long

Firespawn
Firespawn

@Gigastrength
not having to switch weapons when you fight specific enemies

New_Cliche
New_Cliche

Uh, Gin? What's going on?

Firespawn
Firespawn

tweeting at other bbgees
on Veeky Forums
w&w [email protected]

PackManBrainlure
PackManBrainlure

still ringing

CouchChiller
CouchChiller

@Firespawn
I dont like that guy at all either, but im also interested in bb cut content, i wish there were other youtubers

kizzmybutt
kizzmybutt

@CouchChiller
I think he meant people using @ in their posts in reference to someone in the general, not the ebin youtuber guy.

LuckyDusty
LuckyDusty

@kizzmybutt
This guy gets it.

Crazy_Nice
Crazy_Nice

Any spelunks going on so I can invade you?

girlDog
girlDog

@Firespawn
wandw latd?

haveahappyday
haveahappyday

@kizzmybutt
Ah alright, i dont know twitter very well

Inmate
Inmate

imprompthu?
IMPROMPTHU

TreeEater
TreeEater

Alright Ygorl and Gin, last run for me i've got some things to do.

AwesomeTucker
AwesomeTucker

@Inmate
Coming just for a little bit.

CouchChiller
CouchChiller

@Inmate
Where?

SomethingNew
SomethingNew

@CouchChiller
imprompthu
pthu
pthumeru

Firespawn
Firespawn

@TreeEater
yeah, i need to get some sleep also.
0 fuckin OOS.
too bad you didn't get what you wanted.

hairygrape
hairygrape

@TreeEater
Thanks for hosting, bud, was fun although this piece of trash was like a spit in the face, got damn shit got me heated.

Poker_Star
Poker_Star

I'm not going to pretend I ever meant to do that, I though you were revving your gatling gun.

Evilember
Evilember

@SomethingNew
Oh.

Soft_member
Soft_member

@hairygrape
Ouch

DeathDog
DeathDog

@Evilember
Cute little thing.

GoogleCat
GoogleCat

@Poker_Star
well it looked cool anyway

Firespawn
Firespawn

Forgot I had sound off.

AwesomeTucker
AwesomeTucker

Sorry m80s, gotta skedaddle. Few but fun fights.

GoogleCat
GoogleCat

anyone still at imprompthu?

Bidwell
Bidwell

@GoogleCat
Yeah, me.

Emberfire
Emberfire

Anybody wanna help me with Amelia? I'll be ringing at the fog gate. Pass is sensual

Dreamworx
Dreamworx

@Methnerd
QK is a chad who will gank your cooperators sans hesitation

King_Martha
King_Martha

@Firespawn
cant hear madaras whistle
fall by it everytime
I hate the sound meta

StonedTime
StonedTime

@hairygrape
jesus

Sharpcharm
Sharpcharm

@Emberfire
PLEASE

BinaryMan
BinaryMan

ILOVEYOUALBATROSS

Sir_Gallonhead
Sir_Gallonhead

@GoogleCat
What if you raise it instead of leaving it to wander on its own?

Poker_Star
Poker_Star

Currently fighting Micolash for the first time.
I've died twice to that dumb magic bomb attack thing. Is there any way to prevent that from one shorting me? I've tried to interrupt the casting by being aggressive as fuck but it casts regardless and one shots me. Then I tried to just dodge it but the tracking and explosive bits fucked me over. God I hate magic so much.

eGremlin
eGremlin

@Poker_Star
Staying close to him is the best way to prevent it, but, sometimes, he casts it, while you're falling in the arena, so try landing a plunging attack to stop him.
If he manages to cast it, wait for the projectiles to start flying and dodge toward Micolash.

Deadlyinx
Deadlyinx

@Poker_Star
as soon as he starts casting position yourself while counting to 2 in your head at a medium range (around three meters) and then dash forward, you'll i-frame it

Emberburn
Emberburn

@Poker_Star
You can stagger him with a shot if you're quick enough, unlocked roll foward at mid-distance should evade it. Beast Roar helps if you can use it

hairygrape
hairygrape

@Poker_Star
While youre on the ceiling above him shoot him or trow something, then run back to the closed gate, he will be aggroed and will try to get you trought the bars, and will do nothing else

Spazyfool
Spazyfool

What is a good pair for the Kirk? I'm starting a 50/25 STR/SKL build.

Need_TLC
Need_TLC

@eGremlin
@Deadlyinx
@Emberburn
@hairygrape
Alright cheers lads. Half expected meme responses instead of legitimate advice. Pleasantly surprised.

Crazy_Nice
Crazy_Nice

@Spazyfool
Saw, Stake, Axe, Cuttah, pretty much anything with relatively fast r1s. I really like Cuttah's range when tricked, plus it's serrated

Techpill
Techpill

when you can't tell if your host is lost or just wanted to go through an area multiple times because they kept forgetting things

Then he just walked off a ledge and died. RIP. If you're here bro I just wanted to let your know that there's a ladder there.

Sharpcharm
Sharpcharm

@Need_TLC
You caught /bbg/ on a good day. That's all.

Sir_Gallonhead
Sir_Gallonhead

fell for the 0 vit / 100% arc meme

idontknow
idontknow

@Sharpcharm
We're generally quite helpful even during shitposting hours, you just can't see it. Really this is a decent general.

Soft_member
Soft_member

@Crazy_Nice
I'm also running a 50/25 str/skl build and went with the Whirly, currently trying to decide between Beast Cutter or blunt Kirk as a sidearm. I like the Kirk more but since both it and the Whirly will be mainly in tricked mode, they may not synergize well. Cuttah gives you access to the gun in both modes, so it's tempting, but it fits my fashion less than the Kirk (it's based around Gascoigne's chestpiece) and I only have 15 end so it may be too little for it.

happy_sad
happy_sad

*mashes R1*

LuckyDusty
LuckyDusty

@happy_sad
It doesn't really strike me as a spammy weapon, unlike say Rakuyo and Saws

Ignoramus
Ignoramus

Would you say violent past for origin and uncanny saw cleaver for weapon is optimal for a BL10 run?

Boy_vs_Girl
Boy_vs_Girl

well lads looks my connections gone to shit, gg everyone, jaw jew out

likme
likme

You forgot to blood-bullet there, Lotte

Emberfire
Emberfire

Imprompthu still breathing?

BinaryMan
BinaryMan

@likme
oh sorry didnt realize it

lostmypassword
lostmypassword

Somebody help me with Paarl? At the fog gate, pass is sensual

Sharpcharm
Sharpcharm

Anyone know what these are on Willem's back? Look like electronic candles or antennas for picking up ayy signals

Evilember
Evilember

@Sharpcharm
Cosmic fungus

SniperGod
SniperGod

@Sharpcharm
uh seem like fungi to me

TurtleCat
TurtleCat

@lostmypassword
if u still need help I can log in when I get home... 5 hrs from now ....

Nude_Bikergirl
Nude_Bikergirl

@Sharpcharm
back dicks

Playboyize
Playboyize

@Sharpcharm
ayylmao benis :DD

CouchChiller
CouchChiller

@lostmypassword
Ringing.

Evil_kitten
Evil_kitten

THANKS FOR HELPING ME AGAIN ALBATROSS

Fuzzy_Logic
Fuzzy_Logic

dying like a retard now

Fuck me.

happy_sad
happy_sad

Where's the impromptu?

GoogleCat
GoogleCat

Ahhh Kos or some say Kosm
Who are these some?

haveahappyday
haveahappyday

Why do some spectres in the dream just show hunters dropping dead when the hunters in question aren't holding Bloodletters, Wheels, or Chikages? Like it'll just be a dude with cleaver or something else.

Fried_Sushi
Fried_Sushi

@haveahappyday
HP drain curse

Need_TLC
Need_TLC

@haveahappyday
hp depletes

hairygrape
hairygrape

@happy_sad
phtut

PurpleCharger
PurpleCharger

@haveahappyday
Maybe health gradually depletes gems. I wish you could disable notes and spectres and still play online

Nojokur
Nojokur

@Sharpcharm
New line of bad dragon dildos

CodeBuns
CodeBuns

@Crazy_Nice
Is the cutter serrated in both forms? What a pleasant surprise

askme
askme

load up my first character
40 END

PackManBrainlure
PackManBrainlure

@LuckyDusty
You would be surpriced, its a retard magnet
@Sharpcharm
Ebrietas has them, too

Lunatick
Lunatick

@GoogleCat
Secret higher ups of the Healing Church, only dumb fishman villagers say Kos

Booteefool
Booteefool

@Fried_Sushi
@Need_TLC
@PurpleCharger
Oh, shit I forgot about those. I thought it might've been a bug or a secret

Crazy_Nice
Crazy_Nice

@askme
The track star of the dream

Methshot
Methshot

@Lunatick
I ___agree.

Spamalot
Spamalot

@Sharpcharm
whew, always kill the old cunt before I can blink so I never really noticed that. Must B the Knowledge

ZeroReborn
ZeroReborn

@PackManBrainlure
If Ebrietas has them then they must be a Kin thing and not a Great One thing.

Gigastrength
Gigastrength

@Spamalot
Looking at things is fun user. For example, if you look at Rom up close, you can see all of her eyes actually have irises and pupils which makes her look a million times more goofy.

Boy_vs_Girl
Boy_vs_Girl

@ZeroReborn
That's my headcanon. She's a grown up one of those slug babies hanging around the Upper Cathedral Ward and Isz. We find ebbies in Isz, too. She's not a unique entity, she's a species, specifically a child of the cosmos. Healing Church has ebbies for fuckin years up there. I personally think true Great Ones are utterly unique entities.

BinaryMan
BinaryMan

@Need_TLC
https://youtu.be/KXiXXqSA8xE

A bit of an unorthodox kill but I'll take it.

Crazy_Nice
Crazy_Nice

Can't find anybody and not feeling too well right now so good fights to everyone! Cheesecake out..

AwesomeTucker
AwesomeTucker

@Boy_vs_Girl
Hence their inability to reproduce successfully.

CodeBuns
CodeBuns

Anyone up for a spelunk?

Emberburn
Emberburn

@Boy_vs_Girl
I personally think true Great Ones are utterly unique entities.
Aren't Amygdalas Great Ones?

Methshot
Methshot

@CodeBuns
I have some time to kill while I wait for the date to change.
Hopefully MHW demo is gonna be available at 0:00 in every time zone.

Flameblow
Flameblow

@Methshot
Fine with Loran?

Soft_member
Soft_member

@CodeBuns
i'l join too. Any place is cool

RumChicken
RumChicken

@Flameblow
Sure, w/e. I just hope I won't get downscaled too much.

5mileys
5mileys

@Soft_member
@RumChicken
FRC Lower Loran
Glyph: dshj756n
Password: vermin

Lord_Tryzalot
Lord_Tryzalot

@Emberburn
Probably, but I don't think they're on the same level as unique entities like Kos, her child, the Moon Presence or Oedon or Mergo. They're alien, just not top tier crazy shit. Trophy descriptions call Celestial Emissaries Great Ones but we know for a fact those are Kin that were once people.

w8t4u
w8t4u

@Soft_member
Are you ringing?

Illusionz
Illusionz

@w8t4u
i'l join too. Any place is cool
yep. seeing your phantoms too

BunnyJinx
BunnyJinx

@likme
Well that was fucking awful and I never want to do it again, but I can't wait to do more.
Also Ebby kys'd herself

Sir_Gallonhead
Sir_Gallonhead

oh well. it seems you have some illegal items in your posession

Methshot
Methshot

@BinaryMan
so lucky at 1:50

SomethingNew
SomethingNew

@BunnyJinx
yeah the little star aura she spawns on phase change damages both you and her

BinaryMan
BinaryMan

You fellas still imprompthuing down there?

TurtleCat
TurtleCat

@SomethingNew
Oh wow, I had no idea. Serves her right for shitting on me so much the other night.

TalkBomber
TalkBomber

@Methshot
Yeah I screamed like a girl at that. I'd like to think me switching my gloves and boots to stuff with more arcane resistance before the fight allowed me to survive that.

JunkTop
JunkTop

Good hunters refresh my memories
Once you wake up from a dream you forget what you learned there?

Dreamworx
Dreamworx

I forgot: do you drop your souls when you get SACKED?

hairygrape
hairygrape

@BinaryMan
why was he running for like 30 sec? just fuck his shit up

WebTool
WebTool

@w8t4u
I misbehaved and my slot has been given to another player?

happy_sad
happy_sad

@Dreamworx
Yes

Nude_Bikergirl
Nude_Bikergirl

@JunkTop
Both djura and eileen remember dreaming, but do not mencion ayys, so its posible, you DO wake up with your gear tho

Lunatick
Lunatick

@WebTool
No, still one slot open.

Skullbone
Skullbone

@Lunatick
damn, rebooting then

Garbage Can Lid
Garbage Can Lid

@Nude_Bikergirl
what about mico
Now I'm waking up, I'll forget everything

Booteefool
Booteefool

@Skullbone
oh i didn't see your reply
i'll leave my slot for you

TechHater
TechHater

@Booteefool
it's alright, it seems i just cannot connect as a cooperator now, maybe i'll try to invade

Spazyfool
Spazyfool

@Garbage Can Lid
Who knows. I assume a lot of the fighting is muscle memory, that shit might stick, even if your memories get wiped.

cum2soon
cum2soon

@Booteefool
@TechHater
We're on L2 now, if you want to join us, Lotte.

Spamalot
Spamalot

@hairygrape
I got spooked was playing super cautious and scared because I didn't want to get McMemed on.

askme
askme

@Garbage Can Lid
My theory is the terms 'dream' and 'nightmare' are human terms for things they don't yet understand. He thinks he's in a dream, so he thinks he's gonna forget stuff when he wakes up. He also might realize he's dead in the 'waking world' and he has nowhere to go back to.

SniperGod
SniperGod

@cum2soon
i will if lord srrc wills it

CodeBuns
CodeBuns

was thinking about editing this or maybe its creator can into 2 tier lists

pvp
1: saw/saw/saif
2: pick/parasite/bloodletter/rakuyo/lhb
3: cane/burial/chikage/axe/wheel/amy/kirk
4: cuttah/hms/bowblade/bom/boomhammer
5: toni/beastclaws/riflespear/stake/reiter/whirli

1: evelyn/cannon/church cannon
2: pistol/ludwig's rifle/repeating pistol
3: fist of gratia/torch/wooden shield/flamesprayer/hunter's torch/loch shield/pistol/gatling gun

pve
1: saw/saw/saif/whirli/lhb
2: pick/parasite/bloodletter/rakuyo/axe/chikage
3: cane/burial/wheel/amy/toni/cuttah/hms
4: bom/boomhammer/cane/kirk
5: beastclaws/riflespear/stake/reiter/bowblade

1: blunderbuss/evelyn/ludwig's rifle/repeating pistol
2: hunter's torch/loch shield/pistol/cannon/church cannon
3: piercing rifle/fist of gratia/torch/wooden shield/flamesprayer/gatling gun

whaddya think

ZeroReborn
ZeroReborn

@CodeBuns
saif can stand up to a saw but it is not in the same league of assfuckingly busted because no move it has comes close to the standing saw r1
the dash r1s are also much worse compared to both saws in both forms
the saif would be in a solid A+ tier with the saws alone in S

TalkBomber
TalkBomber

@CodeBuns
Bad Tier
these weapons are downgraded versions of another
Saw Cleaver isn't in it
??????

Ignoramus
Ignoramus

iframe qk's cannon
almost die twice to beyonce
yeet it's been a lil while until last spelunk eh

Snarelure
Snarelure

Did you got summoned two times Lotte?

RavySnake
RavySnake

@Snarelure
i did, the first time i got instantly sent back though, dunno why

Harmless_Venom
Harmless_Venom

FUCKING FINALLY

Stupidasole
Stupidasole

@CodeBuns
newfag here
why is saw good? I see D-E scaling meanwhile ludwig has B B

Firespawn
Firespawn

@Stupidasole
Serration, speed, great transformation attacks, easy to use, the scaling is higher than D/E you probably just haven't upgraded them high enough. Plus Str and Arc builds have scaling gems that bump them to S

Inmate
Inmate

@TalkBomber
t. brainlet

Fried_Sushi
Fried_Sushi

@CodeBuns
@ZeroReborn
also if I had to restructure this tier list I would say that few BB weapons are truly 'bad'
amy arm is decent, thrust riflespear is pretty fucking good and phys riflespear is at least decent, blunt LHB is a great weapon when paired with a fast one hand weapon to swap to, bom is a good weapon at least and an annoying thrust piece of shit at best due to the absurdly high damage dash r1s
reiter can drop from good to decent I think the spam factor of the tricked form is overrated and the rh gunshot has no purpose unless its used with a shield
the kos para is also wholely overrated in this chart and should be a tier lower at least
basically, only bad weapons should be kirk, toni, and claws, the difference between decent and good is subjective for most weapons but I would say kos para is in no way a great weapon

Boy_vs_Girl
Boy_vs_Girl

@Stupidasole
Also forgot to mention, untricked LHB has shitty attack multipliers while Saws don't. Tricked mode is a powerhouse but it's slower and requires two hands.

SniperGod
SniperGod

@Firespawn
yeah you're right sorry it's C-D +10
How do I get those gems? I already finished the game once, do I have to bother with the boring donjons?

Burnblaze
Burnblaze

@SniperGod
You gotta do dungeons for them

Spamalot
Spamalot

@Burnblaze
Feels bad

Bidwell
Bidwell

@Fried_Sushi
I think the chart is PvP related and Kos Parasite's two hand dash r1 is disgustingly good. It has a wonky and very big range and is quick as fuck. L2 is good for dealing with multiple enemies.

@SniperGod
You get the very good gems in very late game dungeons. You have to go through the story dungeons to be able to create randomly generated dungeons.

King_Martha
King_Martha

Who wants to clear the Forbidden Woods with me? Trying to finish a new character as fast as possible.
Ringing at the first lamp, pass is sensual

Booteefool
Booteefool

@Bidwell
I know the chart is for pvp and out of all the dash r1 spammin weapons the kos para is not even close to king. It has a wonky hitbox for sure but it's also delayed. In a healing fight the kos para is practically a liability to leave tricked because you can't dash r1 fast enough like you could with a bloodletter or whirli. The l2 explosion is what keeps me from calling it decent at best, and I think it could be considered good because of it but it's also a free heal if someone isn't standing in it.

SniperGod
SniperGod

Thanks for joining me, Void, Lotte and Meadows. Pretty average dungeon, but it was fun exploring it with you: I love when the Rotten Rite spawns NPC hunters. Bepis must have been killed by a horde of beast patients on L3, after killing a vilecuck who dropped me a Blood Dreg (even though I have the Impurity Rune on).
Anyone experiencing problems with captchas? Even if I input it correctly, it tells me I mistyped it.

SomethingNew
SomethingNew

@SniperGod
thanks for hosting
no problems with captchas over here

Garbage Can Lid
Garbage Can Lid

@King_Martha
still ringing? i could go for some comfy coop

kizzmybutt
kizzmybutt

@SniperGod
Go to settings and enable legacy captchas, the new ones are fucking ass anyway

Lord_Tryzalot
Lord_Tryzalot

@CodeBuns
This better be a PVP autist list because otherwise it's fucking atrocious.

Methshot
Methshot

@Garbage Can Lid
Just got through the woods, But in a few minutes I'll be ringing for Byrgrywyrth.

ALSO THANK YOU ALBATROSS I LOVE YOU

FastChef
FastChef

@Methshot
Slot open?

VisualMaster
VisualMaster

@Methshot
all closed.

Lunatick
Lunatick

@VisualMaster
Got the echoes! Sorry I had to sign for a package

TalkBomber
TalkBomber

@VisualMaster
We got'em, Atsuko. If you want, we can go through Yahar'gul next.

@Lunatick
All good mang.

Deadlyinx
Deadlyinx

@TalkBomber
Ringin in yahar

Bidwell
Bidwell

@Deadlyinx
All full in yahargul.

Crazy_Nice
Crazy_Nice

MALEDICTUS

TreeEater
TreeEater

@Crazy_Nice
SANGUINE

S A N G U I N E

Nojokur
Nojokur

@Crazy_Nice
REEEEEEEEEEEEEEK

girlDog
girlDog

Thank you so much Akatsuki, Jordan and especially Albatross for getting me so far so fast. I'll do Mensis later, but I had a great time with you guys and I hope to play with you guys again!

Now, I'm gonna go eat some fuckin pizza.

RumChicken
RumChicken

I always find it hard to piece together the lore in this games. Was the doll made in Maria's image? Because I always thought the reason the doll looked like that was because every hobby doll looks like that.

Soft_member
Soft_member

fear the old bone

CodeBuns
CodeBuns

@RumChicken
Gerhman was a total creep and made the doll to look like his waifu (Maria).

CodeBuns
CodeBuns

@RumChicken
hobby doll
What do you mean with this?

DeathDog
DeathDog

@Lord_Tryzalot
how would you change it user

TreeEater
TreeEater

@CodeBuns
You know, those hobby dolls

StrangeWizard
StrangeWizard

@CodeBuns
Nigga they're creepy action figures that cost $1000s to make and dress. Here's a small image of one; any bigger will allow the dead child possessing it to curse your home.

Lunatick
Lunatick

@TreeEater
You mean like pic related (google search result for hobby doll)?

I thought you meant something lewd.

Illusionz
Illusionz

@Lunatick
I think he's supposed to mean porcelain dolls

Fried_Sushi
Fried_Sushi

@StrangeWizard
he doesn't want to do her hair with a little brush and then hotglue her

Evil_kitten
Evil_kitten

REMINDER
-Sinister chalice race

WHEN
Dec 8 at 11pm UTC, which is
-3pm in Los Angeles & Vancouver
-6pm in NYC
-11pm in London
-10am on Dec 9 in Sydney & Melbourne

WHO?
-Whoever, just need 2 teams of 3 persons each

WHY?
-t̞̼̝̦͔̝h̭̱i͔̪̯s̻̤̭ ̡͖̣̮͈͎͚̝c̟̬̱̼̩ọ̧̘̜̻͍ͅu̥͉̘̤͕͜l͇̰̘̹͚d̶ ͍̗͙b̤̖͖̦̪͚e̝̯͚̫̰ ͎̭͎̫̰y̸̠̬͈o̧͉͚̟u̷͉͙͙̱͕͍r̮̫̱̱̻̟̝ ̞͙͕̯̦p̵̭̱h͖͖͇͕y̨͓s̹̠ e͡ḍ͕

WHERE?
-6y473zfw (regular sinister this week)

WHAT???????
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1PIWNIOpp2j3Hc7XJBZu_1yEYKAEIXxHEXiY0--sykqw

ps looking for 2 constables

FastChef
FastChef

@StrangeWizard
any bigger will allow the dead child possessing it to curse your home.
spooky :c
but I kind of want a qt loli ghost to spook me

Fried_Sushi
Fried_Sushi

@Evil_kitten
I can join as confederate, but who's going to host?

SniperWish
SniperWish

If you summon someone to help with a boss, do they get scaled down to your level?

kizzmybutt
kizzmybutt

@Fried_Sushi
I can but if anyone else wants to we can switch, I’ve hosted plenty but don’t mind continuing

Sir_Gallonhead
Sir_Gallonhead

@SniperWish
only if they are not within the normal matchmaking range and are summoned with a password

JunkTop
JunkTop

@FastChef
I bet thats not the only thing you'd want to do with ghost lolis, you degenerate.

Lunatick
Lunatick

@JunkTop
I would also talk feverishly about higher planes

Booteefool
Booteefool

@Lunatick
Good, good! Very good indeed!

StrangeWizard
StrangeWizard

Been gone for just over half a year, what did I miss?
also why is the OP different than when I left it? Barely any changes in a year, then all of a sudden in a few months looks completely different

kizzmybutt
kizzmybutt

@StrangeWizard
Old links were dead and we have a new event called "Sinister Race".

JunkTop
JunkTop

Lads.

BlogWobbles
BlogWobbles

@JunkTop
Holy fuck

JunkTop
JunkTop

@CodeBuns
I made this like a year ago. There's a few things I would move. Thrust HMLS is a top 15 weapon for example imo.

New_Cliche
New_Cliche

@JunkTop
it's real

StonedTime
StonedTime

OK BUCKOS, WHO WILL BE THE CHALLENGERS THIS WEEK
http://www.strawpoll.me/14571780
http://www.strawpoll.me/14571780
http://www.strawpoll.me/14571780

Methshot
Methshot

@JunkTop
Finally someone with proper BoM placement

idontknow
idontknow

@StrangeWizard
reddit took over, most are long gone. I'm not even a regular any more, I just saw this when scrolling.
Sorry mate, the cozy little /bbg/ house got burned down for r_bloodborne2.0

Poker_Star
Poker_Star

@StrangeWizard
@idontknow
did you ever hear the tale of the once comfy general? its a sad tale indeed, not one waifuniggers would tell you.
it started when quite a lot of redditors from r_bloodborne came to /bbg/ at once, tried to change the FC day(confusing for 2 year vets), tried to change the meta BL (don't forget, no Rosaria in BB so you can't lower your BL once done), namefagged, avatarfagged and had general normalfag drama.
It made a right bloody mess of such a comfy thread, so much so that a lot of older players like me left for a bit. Some went Nioh, I went DS3.
The ironic thing is that the old /bbg/ meta level we used is 98, specifically because it forces you to not have a completely rounded build, whilst missing the reddshit meta level's summon range by exactly 1; so they don't pollute it with their shitty gameplay. And by shitty, I mean so bad quite a few of us use(d) them as warmup before the actual FC.

tl;dr /bbg/ is a shithole run over by redditors and it's all thanks to waifuniggers

Harmless_Venom
Harmless_Venom

Here's something to tide you over until the full thing is done.

Also, delete the Micolash webm if you have it and delete any Micolash you made with it. I didn't quite understand the tattoo values when I made that webm, so I fucked that up.

Carnalpleasure
Carnalpleasure

@Harmless_Venom
mommy

Burnblaze
Burnblaze

@idontknow
@Poker_Star
right in the feels
Well shit, I guess this is what happens when you leave for a bit. Here was me getting excited because indicators are going off for BB2.
Are any of the old regulars still around? (Hibiki, L_____ etc)

lostmypassword
lostmypassword

@StonedTime
No executioners? Also rules have been updated to whichever team can field 3 people. We could even have a 3 way team-fight if enough people showed. That being said I did vote in the poll

Anyhoo the rules changes last week added wait times, but they ensured invaders at least. As it stands it’s looking like ~2 hours for the whole thing. If anyone has suggestions to make the rules less dense, make em.

5mileys
5mileys

@Burnblaze
Falling for the /bbg/ is ruined meme
its been more or less the same for the past while. Only major news is that the game has been/is in the process of being datamined. We’ve got npc sliders and stats now, for instance. Also sfrc chalices.

TechHater
TechHater

@Burnblaze
Hibiki is still here, Luci is gone from everywhere for quite some time. General is still fine for the most part, that anon(s) is just trying to stir shit.

Spazyfool
Spazyfool

@JunkTop
born
not borne
At least apply yourself a bit

hairygrape
hairygrape

@Spazyfool
It's not meant to look real you beastly idiot

Skullbone
Skullbone

Also, I'd like your opinions. What do you think I should do for the NPC faces that can't actually be completed in character creation? Still show the sliders that you can use, or just spin them around so people can get a good look at them?

Evil_kitten
Evil_kitten

@Burnblaze
Hint, if a post says waifuniggers, it's a shitpost. Yes, even this one. There's certainly been an influx of massive autists, but the core of /bbg/ is the same as it has ever been, still helpful, still friendly, plenty of co-op and spelunks. Biggest news is the game is being sort of datamined now and one of the results was the borderline maddening news that chalices are not at all random, they're completely pre-determined from a list, there's something like only 2000 actual chalices in existence, you get a random one pulled from a list of areas.

WebTool
WebTool

@Spazyfool
Did you seriously not get the joke?

Crazy_Nice
Crazy_Nice

@Skullbone
What's their age ids? I can take some pics or webms.

Methnerd
Methnerd

@Skullbone
It'd be nice to see how they look without the deformities, the sliders might make something decent looking

BunnyJinx
BunnyJinx

@JunkTop
Beast Cutter in Tier F

King_Martha
King_Martha

@WebTool
so, /bbg/. what's yer 'hing?

SniperWish
SniperWish

@Evil_kitten
only 2000
Thats news to me, fuck

Booteefool
Booteefool

Could I get some help at Laurence? Pass bbg, BL 50

BinaryMan
BinaryMan

Why does MP back off after we consume the cords? Do we become like part old one?

Nude_Bikergirl
Nude_Bikergirl

@Booteefool
booting up

LuckyDusty
LuckyDusty

@BinaryMan
Possibly yeah

StrangeWizard
StrangeWizard

@Booteefool
fog or lantern?

Ignoramus
Ignoramus

@BinaryMan
he doesn't how squid tastes like

Supergrass
Supergrass

@JunkTop
@BunnyJinx
Yea amy arm is also way too low there

askme
askme

@Skullbone
not being able to match the flaws in character creation
Imagine the beautiful art we'd get in game if players were allowed to distort their character's features or were allowed more than one scar/mark.

kizzmybutt
kizzmybutt

@Ignoramus
He

Evilember
Evilember

@Crazy_Nice
Only the beggar uses the Age value, his being 64 (hex), and it only gets you the bloody body. The faces use what I'm calling "deformation" sliders rather than just being masks, so it's unfortunately a more involved process than with Gael's face. The deformation sliders affect at what angle certain features sit across from one another so they could make lopsided faces like this.

PackManBrainlure
PackManBrainlure

@askme
can equip all eyewear at once

Carnalpleasure
Carnalpleasure

@askme
I have some idea of what to expect.

Emberburn
Emberburn

@King_Martha
Sometimes, I like to go into story chalices, but I don't ring my bell or anythin'. I take off all ma gear and I just sit at random lamps, letting them see a naked ghost. Aye, last weekend, I went through all a Ihyll. Was just sat at the lamp, laughing me head off.

5mileys
5mileys

*CRSCH* WHEELS UP BROS
I've got an evidence that one our comrade's being held in a dark cell of qc9pre35
Join my rescue team at bbg358 frequency!

Nude_Bikergirl
Nude_Bikergirl

@Methnerd
That is a good point though. I guess I'll include them with a disclaimer that they won't turn out quite right.

Methnerd
Methnerd

@Booteefool
@Nude_Bikergirl
@StrangeWizard
Got it thanks to Meadows

TechHater
TechHater

@5mileys
friendly crow up to task, over

idontknow
idontknow

First time I've had a 'side visceral', and it also came with a double visceral visual bug

BinaryMan
BinaryMan

@StonedTime
Why the fuck did anyone change spelunk club into some autistic game? The original point was to take a bit of time and explore the dungeon and have some fun, with no planning whatsoever needed.
I'd fucking know, I was the one who first updated the OP for it. long story short, it was going on for a few weeks beforehand hosted by some other guy. I was the just one who changed the OP with the following, so inb4 no u didn't start it lol, because I'm not saying that

/bbg/ Spelunking Club
Password=/bbg/
Create a new S/FRC chalice dungeon and beckon anons to join
OR
Use the Short Root Chalice with the password /bbg/ to be summoned or invade
(every Friday 6pm EST, anything goes)

@5mileys
Looks like my self-made npc characters are useless now shit. Gee I wonder who is reporting on the datami-
Sanadsk
Holy fucking shit how is this reddpleb still running. Literally PvPskillz tier shitter autism

@TechHater
Any others left?

@Evil_kitten
2000
~500 of each variant
cut down by each level of challenge, means only ~100 Iryll chalices exist
I find that highly unlikely

Skullbone
Skullbone

@Emberburn
That's good, but ye know what ye could do?
Go to bbg, read the thread fer tha' day.
Post in it like ya usually would, "Can a get a hand at Orphan?" "Hosting a spelunk at this glyph, come check it oot"
Go to the bell, where people's ghosts are stonin' an wave at them, een make contact like yer tryin' to speed up the connection
But ye nay rang yer bell

farquit
farquit

@Emberburn
When Mensis wanted to contact the Great Ones, they wanted something like the Moon Presence, but instead they got the nightmare newborn, Mergo.
honestly I always felt they WANTED to reach Mergo, as an infant Great One would be easier to manipulate for their goals of ascension, not to mention, also Mergo is why the Pthumerians are working with Mensis, they want to reunite Mergo with their queen

this also ties into what The One Reborn is, that thing was basically a failed attempt at making a new body for Mergo that the Chime Maidens use as a last ditch attempt to stop you from reaching the Nightmare of Mensis

haveahappyday
haveahappyday

@BinaryMan
Sanadsk
his shit went uncontested. when it was called out, it was too late. i hate that faggot with a passion, complete utter retard through and through

New_Cliche
New_Cliche

ludwigs OHKO in the first phase is impossible to dodge
How do you dodge the jump?

Methnerd
Methnerd

@New_Cliche
Run far away and dodge after you run a bit.

BinaryMan
BinaryMan

@haveahappyday
What is the deal with eastern european bloodborne YTers who have no idea what they are doing.

@New_Cliche
3 drips and roll, simple.
you have iframes on a roll so don't pretend it's impossible, his jump isn't a rollcatch

haveahappyday
haveahappyday

@BinaryMan
problems with the old op:
shit info dump with half-empty tables and blank pages
the eye missing problem for the DLC is incredibly rare, and is now included in the new info dump doc where it belongs
fight club rules image uses the wrong glyph, leaves some item use open to question
spelunk section says people use the password "/bbg/". People actually use "bbg" or something else. Plus you can't use the SRRC to invade one chalice in particular.
disorganized pastebins with dead links

All of these things are fixed in the latest version. And the new OP/info dump is formatted nice

Further, you should give the new game mode a try, anons here have been enjoying it for 5 weeks in a row now (and spelunks are not at all in short supply)

TechHater
TechHater

@5mileys
Did you already set off on a rescue?

Playboyize
Playboyize

@BinaryMan
Looks like my self-made npc characters are useless now

You probably have a better Micolash than the actual ingame one. It's not a difficult hurdle to clear.

idontknow
idontknow

@TechHater
I'M STILL RINGING AND ROARING
REMEMBER THE RUNE

GoogleCat
GoogleCat

@haveahappyday
Whay did he do user? I have seen he gets shit on in the comments for stealing credit on the mining

Stupidasole
Stupidasole

What the fuck does From have against clerics?

haveahappyday
haveahappyday

@Stupidasole
clerics
are beasts basically

TechHater
TechHater

@Stupidasole
Its a meme, like with blind girls

happy_sad
happy_sad

@GoogleCat
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2MPPIqRJbEA

Fried_Sushi
Fried_Sushi

@TechHater
tfw no blind scaly foot painter loli to hold at night

RavySnake
RavySnake

@Stupidasole
It's kind of weird. Clerics are depicted as good people in DeS, and mostly good people in DaS. Even BB has Alfred, and DaS3 has Irina. Clerics are either depicted as good natured but gullible and misguided, or outright malicious. No inbetweens.

Evil_kitten
Evil_kitten

@Fried_Sushi
tfw no normal human being of the opposite sex to hold at night

Deadlyinx
Deadlyinx

@Stupidasole
Clerics turning into beasts, or organized religion in general throughout the games?

Spamalot
Spamalot

@RavySnake
Clerics are depicted as good people in DeS

Gigastrength
Gigastrength

@haveahappyday
something that was ok for 1 and a half years
reddit moves in and autistically changes the entire thing because reasons instead of just updating links and keeping layout.
Sounds exactly how I would expect. The 'new gamemode' sounds shit and is only accessible to faggots who are going to take the time to stream and make profiles. Spelunking used to pull upward of 15-20 a pop over the night, consistently. From your reports in the link in the OP it sounds like you are struggling to pull upwards of 6

@Playboyize
It's more my Alfred/Maria. Put some time into that shit, got it to a point where people were occasionally asking for my slider proper proud I was

@GoogleCat
If you listen to him for more than 2 minutes you have the uncontrollable urge to push sharp things into your eyes. Also promotes horrible builds, monitors his comments and tires to overexaggurate everything. Also a known content thief.
tl;dr, the personification of reddit

Poker_Star
Poker_Star

@Gigastrength
Maria

No worries there. Maria isn't a player model NPC, so she doesn't have sliders anyone can use anyway.

Flameblow
Flameblow

@happy_sad
What a fag

Stark_Naked
Stark_Naked

197980137
ranting about reddit
uses reddit spacing
kek
what a fag

JunkTop
JunkTop

mergo’s wet nurse
she’s actually so dry that dust comes out instead of blood
what gives /bbg/?

LuckyDusty
LuckyDusty

@JunkTop
Now this here is a quality post.

Stupidasole
Stupidasole

197980137
ranting about reddit
maria cosplay

Fuzzy_Logic
Fuzzy_Logic

@Gigastrength
changes the entire thing because reasons
Valid reasons. The new op is completely backwards compatible. All relevant info from the old one is in the new one. Spelunking often happens alongside the chalice race, and the race gets 10-15 viewers despite only usually having 6-8 people willing to dedicate the time to clear out the chalice in advance/block off 1-2 hours of their friday in advance.

Evilember
Evilember

@Deadlyinx
Clerics almost always get the biggest slice of the shit pie in these games.
You're not a cleric, are you?

FastChef
FastChef

tank Ludwig’s jump with a sliver of health
immediately follows up with a charge
Alright, I have no shame. Ringing the bell at bl79. Pass is bbg

Spamalot
Spamalot

@happy_sad
Deplorable behavior.
@Evil_kitten
tfw no one to hold at night
I'm not picky, just someone to hold close, my dudes.

eGremlin
eGremlin

@Stark_Naked
uses reddit spacing

GoogleCat
GoogleCat

@Spamalot
Get a pet or something.
Try to get into a bdsm ring near you. Craigslist is unironically one of the places to find some

TalkBomber
TalkBomber

@Spamalot
Even Astraea is depicted as having become a demon because she thought it would allow her to help people.

Crazy_Nice
Crazy_Nice

@Poker_Star
Either way, Maria and Doll share very similar sliders. Doll is an NPC class ain't she?

@Stark_Naked
Reddit spacing is when you put an unnecessary indentation between sentences extremely often.

It gets really annoying when you start to notice it and a great indicator for a redditors presence

A better part of it is that it automatically reveals the newfags in the thread, since they don't have the experience to notice it.

They think shit like indenting a paragraph once or twice in a 2000 character text block, or putting a natural indentation between replies is reddit spacing

Hence they try to call it out and shut down the conversation, yet simply reveal their newfag status.

Even moreso when a very suspicious post reiterating a similar point appears 2 minutes after their initial post.@Stupidasole
I have 8 finished characters, two of them being NPmemes is nothing special. Maria is the only notable female with a weapon. Arianna has nothing, Adella's knife ain't in the game, Eileen is just as overused and Iosefka has a shit build

@Fuzzy_Logic
I still hold to my point of, if it ain't broke don't fix it. The layout change was unnecessary and removing spelunking club info doesn't help anything

TreeEater
TreeEater

@Crazy_Nice
I've been here almost two years and i have never seem an increase of spelunking on a friday.

kizzmybutt
kizzmybutt

@Crazy_Nice
Doll is an NPC class ain't she?
No. Not even DaS3's Firekeeper is a player model NPC.

Methnerd
Methnerd

@Crazy_Nice
if it ain't broke don't fix it
It was broke for the reasons in this post @haveahappyday
removing spelunking club
Spelunks still happen on friday and every day, although after the race anons are usually bloodthirsty and have an impromptu. But if you want start a strawpoll, old OP vs new. This here is the last iteration of the old OP https://boards.fireden.net/vg/thread/196236256/

BinaryMan
BinaryMan

@BinaryMan
She gets in nice n close to the good hoonta and smells his breath, u would back off if someones breath smelled of umbilical eye stalk

Methnerd
Methnerd

@Spamalot
You gotta have standarts and apreciate yourself more, that "anyone will do" mentality is destructive

girlDog
girlDog

@Need_TLC
no spicy pics of the hottest character in the game
I'd do it for shiggles, but tf does spider junk even look like?

cum2soon
cum2soon

need help with Ebritas in a FRC Isz I made. Pass is Ebri, do I need to provide a dungeon glyph too or can people get in without it?

Carnalpleasure
Carnalpleasure

Why the fuck isoefka have pink hair???

Need_TLC
Need_TLC

@cum2soon
Srrcing now

ZeroReborn
ZeroReborn

@cum2soon
After that charge he threw me into the pit.

Ringing again

Bidwell
Bidwell

@girlDog
Males use their pedipalps. Which are those little leg looking things up near their mouths. I had to look this up.

haveahappyday
haveahappyday

@Harmless_Venom
Why delet mico?
Nice job extracting their sliders though.

Methnerd
Methnerd

@cum2soon
@ZeroReborn
Thanks Atsuko

New_Cliche
New_Cliche

@Methnerd
Np back to watcher farming. Anyone else farming something fun?

takes2long
takes2long

@BinaryMan
2000 Chalices
~per area
cut down by each level of challenge, means only ~100 Iryll chalices exist

I find that highly unlikely

There are 2300 Root Chalices

100 Pthumeru Root
100 Central Pthumeru Root
100 Hintertomb Root
100 Lower Hintertomb Root
100 Lower Pthumeru Root
100 Sinister Lower Pthumeru
200 Defiled Pthumeru Root
200 Ailing Loran Root
200 Pthumeru Ihyll Root
200 Sinister Ihyll Root
200 Lower Loran Root
200 Sinister Lower Loran Root
200 Isz Root
200 Sinister Isz Root

haveahappyday
haveahappyday

@Bidwell
sounds like fisting? where does that even go in the female?

Flameblow
Flameblow

Any spelunks going?

Sharpcharm
Sharpcharm

@GoogleCat
It's very hard for someone not familiar with hex editing. It's been a huge learning experience for me.

AwesomeTucker
AwesomeTucker

@haveahappyday
If I'm understanding this whole thing right the male puts some sperm on a web and then shoves it into the female's abdomen using his pedipalps. So yeah it's a bit like fisting with an extra step.

Stark_Naked
Stark_Naked

BLOOOOOODBORNEEEEE 2222222222222222

farquit
farquit

NEW FROMSOFT IP REVEALED ON THE SHIT AWARDS 2017

Emberburn
Emberburn

Shadows Die Twice
that was literally it for the new IP
3 YEARS OF WORK FOR THAT
FUCKING MITSUBISHI
REAL REVEAL HAD BETTER BE TOMORROW

Evilember
Evilember

BLOOOOOOOOOODBORNE 2 HOLY SHIT

iluvmen
iluvmen

BLOODBORNE 2

Burnblaze
Burnblaze

DUIDE TOMRROW
PSX
NEW IP
OR
BLOODBORNE
HOLYY FUCCKKKKKKKKKKK

Lunatick
Lunatick

It's a new IP

Methnerd
Methnerd

wow fromsoft does it again 10/10 what a screenshot and motto

RavySnake
RavySnake

BB2 OH FUUUUUUUUUUCK

ZeroReborn
ZeroReborn

REJOICE MY BROTHERS! ITS ABOUT TIME! BBG ALIV AGAIN. BETTER BE EXCLUSIVE.

Raving_Cute
Raving_Cute

@Methnerd
POST IT

Garbage Can Lid
Garbage Can Lid

We won bros

We waited for so long

And we won

Sir_Gallonhead
Sir_Gallonhead

@Lunatick
shadows die "twice"
it's bloodbonre two

askme
askme

I can't fucking believe it happened

massdebater
massdebater

@ZeroReborn
Alive again?
Nigga bbg is more alive than dsg, if its a new ip we'll die.

Crazy_Nice
Crazy_Nice

@Sir_Gallonhead
More like a sequel to this classic

Carnalpleasure
Carnalpleasure

bone sort of crossbow

seems more like souls than bb to me

but also could be a new IP

if it were a bb tease, surely it would be a victorian looking gun, not a crossbow?

Playboyize
Playboyize

SHADOWS DIE TWICE
WHAT DOES IT MEAN?

Emberfire
Emberfire

I MISSED IT YEEEEEEEAAAAAOOOOOOW

RavySnake
RavySnake

GET OUT OF MY GENERAL YOU FAGGOTS

Harmless_Venom
Harmless_Venom

BY THE GODS

Lord_Tryzalot
Lord_Tryzalot

Here's a screencap

lostmypassword
lostmypassword

MORE BLOOD
For real it doesn't look like brad bourne 2

Lord_Tryzalot
Lord_Tryzalot

@Emberfire
Worry not, brother. I'm here for you.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iWFgvbf_Zu8

MPmaster
MPmaster

what
where

lostmypassword
lostmypassword

POST YFW YOU REALIZED IT'S HAPPENING

iluvmen
iluvmen

@Lord_Tryzalot
IS THIS BLOODBORNE

Evilember
Evilember

@Harmless_Venom
@Lord_Tryzalot
chinese styled music
chink writing
It isn't bloodborne guys.

BinaryMan
BinaryMan

looks like a nioh dlc

Supergrass
Supergrass

@Evilember
Exactly
It's a Shadow Tower reboot

Spamalot
Spamalot

There will never be a sequel to Bloodborne; screencap this for when /bbg/ cucks will be BTFO

idontknow
idontknow

@Supergrass
please dont say this
user please
dont say this
please dont say this user

GoogleCat
GoogleCat

I LOVE U BROS. MISSED YOU BROS.

Dreamworx
Dreamworx

Can't wait for the reactions when you all realize it's not BB2.

DeathDog
DeathDog

teaser didn't show Miyazakis name
THIS IS NOT A TEAM
I REPEAT
THIS IS NOT A TEAM

Skullbone
Skullbone

Its gonna be jap souls

but BB2 will be announced seperately

screencap this I can see the future

TalkBomber
TalkBomber

@idontknow
he wants a BB rehash instead of shadow tower which was to KF pretty much what BB is to souls
It even has [email protected] and guns, rejoice. I would be much more disappointed if it was KF like the reference at the end of DaS3 implied, although it very much could still be that.

DeathDog
DeathDog

@DeathDog
/v/ seems to think it's a new Shadow Tower.

Shadow Tower Abyss was something Tanimura worked on.
And unsurprisingly it was vastly worse than its predecessor.

takes2long
takes2long

@Skullbone
but how can B team have their game ready before A team?

TalkBomber
TalkBomber

@idontknow
The script in the back ground is in-fact chinese like the other user said. If it is BB2, then that was a major continuity error: but, more likely some new IP.

LuckyDusty
LuckyDusty

@Skullbone
Jap Souls

Nioh 2?

Stark_Naked
Stark_Naked

For people saying the language is Chinese and not Japanese, Chinese and traditional Japanese actually share a lot of the same characters.

Gigastrength
Gigastrength

NO, WE SHALL NOT ABANDON THE DREAM
NO ONE CAN CATCH US, NO ONE CAN STOP US NOW

LuckyDusty
LuckyDusty

AHAHAHAHHAHA BBG KEKS ON SUICIDE WATCH AHHAHAHAHAHA

VisualMaster
VisualMaster

something is literally happening
That's all I wanted, I don't even care what it is

Fried_Sushi
Fried_Sushi

@Stark_Naked
honestly it really doesn't look much like either

takes2long
takes2long

Microsoft's streaming service, Mixer, showed a trailer for Wolfenstein 2 instead of the From Software trailer

Done deal. It's confirmed.

Deadlyinx
Deadlyinx

Fromsoftware's NEW project

Not a reboot, neither a sequel. It's a new IP.

TalkBomber
TalkBomber

@LuckyDusty
FromSoft don't make nioh you fucking v tard.

@takes2long
They might, they might not. bloodborne 2 has been being worked on since last year. It's 60% done already and will come out late 2018

Sir_Gallonhead
Sir_Gallonhead

@TalkBomber
Chinese? Weird seeing From do a primarly Asian inspired setting. I hope this is Miyazaki's work, I will still play if it's the B Team of course, but my expectations will be much lower. Do you think they will show more at PSX?

happy_sad
happy_sad

@TalkBomber
bloodborne 2 has been being worked on since last year. It's 60% done already and will come out late 2018
what part of never ever do you not understand?

w8t4u
w8t4u

@Sir_Gallonhead
Probably. But I highly doubt it's Bloodborne or even Souls related. Honestly, I hope it isn't. Dark Souls 3 was proof that anything can be run into the ground.

FastChef
FastChef

COULD IT BE??!!!!!!

Supergrass
Supergrass

@FastChef
No, Miyazaki has his name in the trailers.
This is tanimura garbage.

Emberfire
Emberfire

if it is Bloodborne 2, it might be set off in the unnamed land where the Chikage, Rakuyo, and Yamamura come from

VisualMaster
VisualMaster

@Supergrass
this wasn't a proper trailer, it didn't even say the publisher

Raving_Cute
Raving_Cute

@Emberfire
You mean Japan?

Nude_Bikergirl
Nude_Bikergirl

Just spent 15 minutes fighting hotdog to get one shot. Summoning with pass doggo

Evilember
Evilember

@w8t4u
It's a new IP, that alone guarantees it's going to be fresh. I actually hope it has some Souls mechanics

Spazyfool
Spazyfool

@FastChef
WTF IS THAT SUPPOSE TO BE? BIG M YOU SICKO.

farquit
farquit

@FastChef
People keep saying these are moon runes but I'm not seeing it

w8t4u
w8t4u

@VisualMaster
Doesn't matter, they're big enough to make multiple games now and Miyazaki has shown he cannot direct multiple things at once.

Need_TLC
Need_TLC

@Nude_Bikergirl
Just spent 15 minutes fighting hotdog
How. Even if you're BL1 with no gems it can't conceivably take that long. Hit him in the nose until his face armour breaks.

Skullbone
Skullbone

SAME FUCKING FONT! ITS OVER BOYS WE WON!

Dreamworx
Dreamworx

@farquit
Go look at some old Chinese NOT ancient, but old Chinese.

Inmate
Inmate

@Skullbone
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P3ALwKeSEYs

Poker_Star
Poker_Star

@Skullbone
im
please dont hurt me again

StonedTime
StonedTime

@Carnalpleasure
It was a winch made of bone with blood-soaked twine.
It seemed like it was showing off the mechanism for a trick weapon. It was too advanced for a crossbow mechanism.

Harmless_Venom
Harmless_Venom

@w8t4u
I severely doubt he is working on the next AC since that has never been his area of expertise IIRC, and the other 3rd project they have was mentioned to be something relative small and "weird", so I dont think it has many people working on it either.

Soft_member
Soft_member

@Nude_Bikergirl
Ringing.

Evil_kitten
Evil_kitten

@Bidwell
@AwesomeTucker
Woah, the hero I don't deserve.Thanks dude, I learnt some shit today. Know everyone's talking about fromstuff but thanks for telling me about spider cock n puss. Felt it had to be said.

happy_sad
happy_sad

@Skullbone
I want to believe.

Carnalpleasure
Carnalpleasure

@Skullbone
tfw very cautiously optimistic
please don't let me down

PurpleCharger
PurpleCharger

Just put me out of my misery

Dreamworx
Dreamworx

@StonedTime
I believe that if it really was BB2, they would have said it or given a bigger clue for more hype. This is a new IP, which is even better. We don't know if it's an exclusive though.

Sharpcharm
Sharpcharm

Here is a webm of the teaser

Flameblow
Flameblow

@Skullbone
they use that font for everything

Fried_Sushi
Fried_Sushi

@Dreamworx
they just want to stir things up before they make the full announcement on Saturday / Sunday, at PSX

happy_sad
happy_sad

I SWEAR IF THIS IS NOT MIAYAZAKI DIRECTED I WILL NOT PURCHASE ANOTHER SCAM BY TANIMURA

kizzmybutt
kizzmybutt

@Fried_Sushi
Gonna be a rough few days

Ignoramus
Ignoramus

@Sharpcharm
Mah hoontah

Lunatick
Lunatick

So what's happening? New IP announced, but where? I live under a rock when it comes to this stuff.

TurtleCat
TurtleCat

@Sharpcharm
What the fuck is it? Some kind of binding holding a monster down? Torture device?

TechHater
TechHater

@Lunatick
There's an award show going on right now and we got that teaser at the start

Playboyize
Playboyize

Doesn't look like BB. I'm sad.

TurtleCat
TurtleCat

just bought TOH
sequel teased just after I’m smashing Ludwig’s face in
DONT TELL ME ITS NOT

Methnerd
Methnerd

Did bloodborne have any legible writing anywhere in the textures / assets? I don't remember seeing anything with text that you could actually read / wasn't blurry as hell.

TalkBomber
TalkBomber

Thanks for hotdog animal abuse

FastChef
FastChef

@Playboyize
Good self contained games don't need sequels

SniperGod
SniperGod

@FastChef
I want the same gameplay and that is only guaranteed by the BB IP. If they did a Shadow Tower game with the gameplay of BB I'd be fine but they won't do that

Sir_Gallonhead
Sir_Gallonhead

@FastChef
its mechanics deserve to be continued though (and I mean almost exactly copied)

Boy_vs_Girl
Boy_vs_Girl

@Playboyize
doesn’t look like BB
same font
bone and blood
BLOOD
The sweet sweet BLOOD

cum2soon
cum2soon

@Methnerd
nah just squiggles. someone check the room signs in the Astral tower, I think they look similar to the trailer

Boy_vs_Girl
Boy_vs_Girl

@Boy_vs_Girl
They use that font for everything. A bone and blood can be in almost literally any Fromsoft IP up to this point

Soft_member
Soft_member

there are people in this thread that STILL think BB2 would be developed by From

Methnerd
Methnerd

@Sir_Gallonhead
@SniperGod
yes

@Boy_vs_Girl
the words though... Shadows die twice. what does it meem

Evilember
Evilember

Shadows die twice
TWICE
T
W
I
C
E
TWICE =2
DOS
(2)
II
JUST ADMIT IT GUYS
BELIEVE

Bidwell
Bidwell

@FastChef
This. We don't need a Bloodborne 2 with constant call backs like HAY REMBER WHEN U FOUGHT ROM WEL NOW THRS 2 ROMS AND 1 OF THEMS GAY ala DKS3

hairygrape
hairygrape

@Evilember
You mean Shadow Tower Abyss II? Oh yeah I habeeb it

Deadlyinx
Deadlyinx

@Methnerd
shit translation from nip?
We've had similar weird taglines for souls in the past that didnt actually match up with taglines closer to release

@Soft_member
Youre a fuckin idiot dude. go back to /v/. every single souls title and bloodborne was made in house by from, and all but one were written and directed by miyazaki

devs swap titles around like theyre in a mailshare
are you 12?

PackManBrainlure
PackManBrainlure

@Methnerd
Twice
Two
What other game of FROMs is a standalone that features blood and gore heavily?

BinaryMan
BinaryMan

@PackManBrainlure
Shadow Tower.

Methnerd
Methnerd

It's gonna be a new multiplatform Bamco-published game called Bloodbone. Bloodbone will be to Bloodborne as Dark Souls is to Demon's Souls

hairygrape
hairygrape

@Methnerd
bone souls

Dreamworx
Dreamworx

@Deadlyinx
You're the idiot here, unfortunately. Miyazaki has said twice from isn't working on more Bloodborne, so if it existed it would be a Japan Studio project managed entirely on the Sony end, since they own the damn IP.

Crazy_Nice
Crazy_Nice

@hairygrape
DARK BONE

haveahappyday
haveahappyday

tfw people don't realize BB2 would have had Fromsoft AND JapanStudio's logo

Beastly idiots all

Emberfire
Emberfire

@Dreamworx
Post your sources or fuck off. We would know if Miya had said such a thing let alone twice

FastChef
FastChef

@BinaryMan
Nobody has heard of that series, and hardly anyone who works at From Soft now has been there long enough to have worked on any of the old games so I can't imagine why they would be sentimental about it and want to work on it

SniperGod
SniperGod

@haveahappyday
Don't break my heart

askme
askme

@Emberfire
Time #1 In 2015
https://www.gamespot.com/articles/dark-souls-3-interview-it-wouldnt-be-right-to-cont/1100-6432425/
It'd be a lie if I said I have no concerns about that. I don't think it'd be the right choice to continue indefinitely creating Souls and Bloodborne games. I'm considering Dark Souls 3 to be the big closure on the series.

Time #2 in 2016
https://www.gamespot.com/articles/dark-souls-3-director-talks-franchises-legacy-poss/1100-6441636/
This game marks a major "turning point" within the Dark Souls series. Just as it's been announced, we have two DLCs planned, but as it stands now, I'm not thinking about making any sequels or spin-offs. That applies to Bloodborne as well.

It's time for the noose user.

Burnblaze
Burnblaze

@haveahappyday
Showing SIE Japans logo would reveal that it was a Sony exclusive and make everyone assume it was BB2. This teaser was just to generate buzz (probably in anticipation of an actual reveal in 1-2 days at PSX). The point of such a tiny little teaser is to get people talking and speculating about what it means.

Poker_Star
Poker_Star

Just saw the trending BB2 on twitter, decided to drop it.

Is it true or just autismos really excited?

Flameblow
Flameblow

@Burnblaze
Companies who do collabs don't just deny that one of the companies is working on it. It's impolite in the biz.

CouchChiller
CouchChiller

@askme
DELETE THIS

JunkTop
JunkTop

@Poker_Star
Autism.

Garbage Can Lid
Garbage Can Lid

@askme
please
dont say this

Gigastrength
Gigastrength

@Poker_Star
could be either
no idea when it'll be really announced but hopefully soon

hairygrape
hairygrape

@askme
Thank you based user. I bet you're a regular.

Sharpcharm
Sharpcharm

@Flameblow
What if it was Sony's idea? They're trying to generate buzz - even among people who don't yet have PS4's and would otherwise dismiss the trailer immediately because its a PS4 exclusive. Sony just wants to sell more consoles.

WebTool
WebTool

@askme
He also said it in that big taiwan interview where he confirmed that DS3 early game was deliberately made easier.

Methshot
Methshot

@Garbage Can Lid
It's not BB 2. Get over it.

PackManBrainlure
PackManBrainlure

@Methshot
b-bbg cant die...

whereismyname
whereismyname

tfw the new trailer isn't for BB2 and bbg gets btfo yet again.

girlDog
girlDog

@askme
as it stands now, I'm not thinking about making any sequels

pfahahahah. 'As it stands now' ok

And that other quote is just whatever. You do realise how much money these games make? There will be BB2 feel free to screencap me and make fun of me if it isn't announced, I'm here every day and I'm betting right now it's announced soon.

Lunatick
Lunatick

@askme
wtf bros I thought I could freak out about BB2 and not get BTFO

TreeEater
TreeEater

@girlDog
bb2 is coming out because I say it is

lol ok fag

Bidwell
Bidwell

@girlDog
haha holy shit user this post is a gem

Need_TLC
Need_TLC

@girlDog
Go back to /v/

kizzmybutt
kizzmybutt

@girlDog
being both in denial and retarded

JunkTop
JunkTop

@TreeEater
@Bidwell
@Need_TLC
Brainlets. Call me back tomorrow or the day after

Stark_Naked
Stark_Naked

@SniperGod
Shuhei Yoshida is a fan of BB and he wants BB2 to happen

Raving_Cute
Raving_Cute

@JunkTop
You really can't wait to get btfo, can you?

TurtleCat
TurtleCat

mfw its a souls like game directed by Tanimura

Inmate
Inmate

@Evilember
reminder

lostmypassword
lostmypassword

The game is likely a BB2 sequel in a different setting, so basically a side-story. This is what I wanted, DaS 2 and 3 proved that direct sequels are a mistake for these games, I hope there's little to no references of the events in the first game.

PurpleCharger
PurpleCharger

@TurtleCat
tfw it's Dark Souls II all over again

StonedTime
StonedTime

@JunkTop
SCREENCAP ME FAGS

cum2soon
cum2soon

@Inmate
Chineseborne

Skullbone
Skullbone

@Inmate
Asia exists in the Bloodborne universe
i-it could still be Bloodborne 2 guys!

Gigastrength
Gigastrength

@Skullbone
yfw it's a yamamura origin story

LuckyDusty
LuckyDusty

@StrangeWizard
Is this a monk?

PurpleCharger
PurpleCharger

@FastChef
wow I can't believe it's impossible for people to have grown up playing fromsoft's games to now work at fromsoft and it's also impossible for people who work there to give older fromsoft games a try

Nojokur
Nojokur

@TurtleCat
TANIMURA BAD MIYAZAKI GOOD
Bying so hard into the game director meme is just laughable, they have far less impact on the overall product than you all think. The only thing that actually matters are money, people and time, not some literal 1 guy that mostly just serves as a posterface and PRfag.

lostmypassword
lostmypassword

@Nojokur
@TurtleCat
@PurpleCharger
@FastChef
@eGremlin
@StrangeWizard
nigga's forget dark souls 2 was a shibuya shit show that was tossed on to tanimura, who had no choice but to bite the bullet and ship whatever he could. DLC is proof of fact that Tanimura is perfectly capable.

hairygrape
hairygrape

@LuckyDusty
Yeah.
Russian Orthodox iirc

Spamalot
Spamalot

@lostmypassword
That's sounds gay and fake I'd rather be mad.

Techpill
Techpill

Death Stranding is the true Bloodborne sequel

whereismyname
whereismyname

@Techpill
Nice "gameplay", Kojima

Evil_kitten
Evil_kitten

LEAKED LYRICS FROM FROM'S NEW PROJECT
FROM THE MAIN THEME
Love you! Ti amo! Je t'aime ! ¡Te quiero!
Open up your legs

askme
askme

@TurtleCat
One of you faggots link me the trailer for new bb

Playboyize
Playboyize

@ZeroReborn
Seriously Kojima? A thumbs up?

lostmypassword
lostmypassword

Apparently I missed the main event. Do we know for sure, without any semblance of doubt, that this is happening? Are we really getting the sequel?
If we do get a sequel, then please promise me that we won't devolve into BB/BB2 arguments the way /dsg/ does with DaS/DaS2. We can't become them.

Emberburn
Emberburn

@Evil_kitten
What the fuck?

Crazy_Nice
Crazy_Nice

@askme
Sure here it is:

Evilember
Evilember

@Emberburn
It's video game music.
You wouldn't understand.
@lostmypassword
Not a sequel. Quit falling for /v/ tier bait

JunkTop
JunkTop

@lostmypassword
You know it will man, this is Veeky Forums

PurpleCharger
PurpleCharger

@lostmypassword
what you missed was the part of this thread where BB2fags were BTFO permanently

Nojokur
Nojokur

@lostmypassword
Nah, most likely a new IP and we'll probably see more at PSX.

girlDog
girlDog

@Evilember
@JunkTop
@PurpleCharger
@Nojokur
I'm sorry, I got my hopes up. I just wanted a Loran prequel, and between the coloring and primitive-looking nature of that device, I thought it was happening.
How are we going to deal with new IPs? Toss them over to /dsg/, or are we taking them in until they can run on their own?

hairygrape
hairygrape

No, we will not abandon the dream.

haveahappyday
haveahappyday

@lostmypassword
This was literally all it was: @Sharpcharm
Then they showed From Software's logo.
I cant remember the audio, it sounded ambient to me but another user said it sounded Asian

Bidwell
Bidwell

@haveahappyday
I cant remember the audio
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jsy4iZ5shzM

takes2long
takes2long

@lostmypassword
We ARE them.

Inmate
Inmate

Brador's Set
I killed Orphan and I forgot to kill Brador's pre-Research Hall invasion, am I fucked, or can he still appear?

FastChef
FastChef

@Inmate
Yes, but it's faster to kill the real Brador and, then, collect the parts of the set from where the invasions would happen.

Techpill
Techpill

@Inmate
Lol why are you still playing BB1

Flameblow
Flameblow

@lostmypassword
depends entirely on if this is a new IP from miyazaki, or if it's getting the dark souls 2-3 treatment where fromsoft and bamco milk the fanbase for more money despite DS1 being a fully self-contained story with no need for a sequel or conclusion

Stupidasole
Stupidasole

COME ON MIYAZAKI I NEED MY PS4 TO HAVE A SECOND FUCKING GAME

TechHater
TechHater

@FastChef
I forgot about that, he's still alive and Orphan is dead, so I thought I may have screwed out finding that piece of his set that he drops near his cell. I'm already in bed and couldn't go check myself

CouchChiller
CouchChiller

@Stupidasole
Coming soon to PS5!

Soft_member
Soft_member

@197996423
AH AH LE SO FUNNY XD

Skullbone
Skullbone

It's been rumored for some time that one of the three games Sony has From under contract for is supposed to be VR compatible. A spiritual successor or straight up actual sequel to Shadow Tower would satisfy that.

FastChef
FastChef

@TurtleCat
Shut the fuck up

StrangeWizard
StrangeWizard

@Skullbone
Don't forget
It could also be Tenchu

Flameblow
Flameblow

@StrangeWizard
nah it's one of the three games, only the first was an existing IP and it was AC
This is new

takes2long
takes2long

@Flameblow
Rikimaru ""dies"" in the first game
is replaced by a Shadow in the third game for a while
Tatsumaru died two times
SHADOWS DIES TWICE
Don't forget Tenchu is one of the few games where From has had a hand in that's overtly Jap
Much like in the trailer where it had moonscript

CouchChiller
CouchChiller

@takes2long
Did you read any of what I said

haveahappyday
haveahappyday

@CouchChiller
Forgive him user he's just excited is all

PackManBrainlure
PackManBrainlure

when is bloodborne kart coming out

Stark_Naked
Stark_Naked

@lostmypassword
won't devolve into BB vs BB2 arguments
This would undoubtedly happen. I do not think Bloodborne 2 will realistically happen though, hoping it won't, anyway.

@girlDog
How are we going to deal with new i.ps?
If it's PS4 exclusive, discuss it here until it releases and then make a new general for it. If it's a multiplat then let /dsg/ take it.

Garbage Can Lid
Garbage Can Lid

@Sharpcharm
What the fuck is this?

PackManBrainlure
PackManBrainlure

@Stark_Naked
I don't want Bloodborne 2, I just want more Bloodborne content.

Burnblaze
Burnblaze

@PackManBrainlure
would rather have DLC than a fully fledged game

Christ, the world just keeps popping out more and more retards

w8t4u
w8t4u

@Burnblaze
If it ain't broke don't fix it.

AwesomeTucker
AwesomeTucker

@Burnblaze
I'd take another toh sized dlc over a new game like das3.

FastChef
FastChef

@Burnblaze
He'd rather have dark souls 2 than another expansion
Look at this retard, look at him and laugh

PurpleCharger
PurpleCharger

@Burnblaze
Miyazaki fucking sucks at making sequels, and Bloodborne is already a perfectly fine self-contained game. If he actually were forced to make a sequel, it would be utter shit and then people like you would turn around and whine that it ruined the "franchise" and that there should have only ever been one game.

Fried_Sushi
Fried_Sushi

@w8t4u
What? What does that even mean in this context??

20+ more bosses for 60 bucks vs 5 (or probably less) bosses for 20, dlc in general is a shit concept

Evilember
Evilember

@Sharpcharm
Shadows Die Twice
What does this even mean? Or did they just give the trailer some cool and ominous sounding words with no real context or meaning to them?

Illusionz
Illusionz

@PurpleCharger
Miyazaki fucking sucks at making sequels
only because every sequel he's ever directed (meaning just DaS3) has been rushed as fuck by Bandai-Namco executives, who made him shit it out in a year.

If I were him I would want to prove all the people who believe like you do wrong and make the best sequel possible

Burnblaze
Burnblaze

@Fried_Sushi
Yeah but I don't want to spend 60 dollarydoos.

Spamalot
Spamalot

@SniperGod
i made this plz liek

5mileys
5mileys

@Evilember
just wait until tomorrow dude

Boy_vs_Girl
Boy_vs_Girl

@Illusionz
Miyazaki has said in interviews that he really doesn't like sequels.

Evil_kitten
Evil_kitten

BOTW wins GOTY
totally didnt see that one coming

@5mileys
whats happening tomorrow? Playstation Experience isnt until Saturday and Sunday

WebTool
WebTool

come back for the first time since shortly after launch and start a new character for the dlc
don't realize till I get there that it is complete aids comparatively to how early you can get in

Welp guess I won't be getting the moonlight sword anytime soon. I don't even know what to use in the meantime, this is the first time I've leveled any arcane.

Soft_member
Soft_member

@Evil_kitten
It's already friday in yourop

WebTool
WebTool

@Evilember
How is anyone here supposed to know

Evilember
Evilember

@Evil_kitten
Better than FaggotUnknown's Booblegrounds

Stark_Naked
Stark_Naked

@WebTool
Anything Pure Physical can be scaled with Arc by converting the damage to fire/bolt/arcane with a gem of that element. Arc guide in the OP can help.

Playboyize
Playboyize

@Evil_kitten
tomorrow is the presentation at 11 pm EST dude
why the fuck does no one have any idea what the hell they're talking about in this thread

Illusionz
Illusionz

@FastChef
@AwesomeTucker
@Burnblaze

Another Bloodborne DLC at this stage just isn't happening and it would be as dumb as having a direct sequel. The story of Bloodborne is wrapped up and done. You know how in sitcoms the devs invent siblings to long-running characters and play pretend like they were really importan to one of the main cast despite never been mentioned before? That's how DS3 DLC2 for example comes off when trting to explain Dark Souls 1 things. It's awkward and a bit hamfisted way of expanding the lore and most people understand that it's an addition only made because they felt like they had to create more content.

Bloldborne DLC2 would feel really out of place because there are no real burning mysteries it could reasonably answer, the story has already been solidified more or less as what it is and it has a high risk of being superficial and not in the style of BB / Old Hunters.

Snarelure
Snarelure

@WebTool
get a converted fire weapon; I suggest saw spear to help you kill ludwig with its serration. You can get a decent fire waning gem from the brainsucker at the bottom of the healing church workshop, and from the Pthumeru 1 story chalice lvl 3 boss, Watchdog. Also the white-hooded Watcher enemies with flaming daggers who are in the Central Pthumeru story chalice

SniperGod
SniperGod

@Stark_Naked
Is an arc weapon with an arc build ever better than the equivalent weapon with a quality or str/dex build?

Snarelure
Snarelure

@Illusionz
That's why it should be a side-story rather than a sequel, another part of the world dealing with the same/a similar problem in it's own way

Inmate
Inmate

@Illusionz
I still think that anything regarding Loran is ripe for expanding upon, whether it being a 2nd DLC or a Bloodborne sequel (prequel)

takes2long
takes2long

@Fried_Sushi
Why the arbitrary assumption that quantity of content = excellence of game?

JunkTop
JunkTop

@Evilember
it's an image of a bloody mechanical bone arm that comes to life + some words that mean nothing at all

by not making it explicitly obvious what the game is, they are automatically generating more hype from audiences outside of BB and souls. i mean WE all know it's going to be a soulsborne game but there will be hundreds of youtube videos inside an hour wildly speculating and generating hype in lieu of any real first party information. in the same way that death stranding is generating hype by not actually telling you anything other than 3 videos in the engine with no context or factual information to base opinions on

Harmless_Venom
Harmless_Venom

@Illusionz
there are no real burning mysteries it could reasonably answer
There are tons of BB mysteries. The nature of Formless Oedon for one

Garbage Can Lid
Garbage Can Lid

@SniperGod
not him, but they're a tad weaker on average, but arc build gives you access to spells that more than make up the difference.

SniperGod
SniperGod

@takes2long
I'm not saying they should just shit out bb2 as fast as humanly possible, ofc I'd want them to polish it out and take their time. It's too late for more DLC, and I need more than just a handful of more bosses.

Booteefool
Booteefool

@Stark_Naked
@Snarelure

Thanks. Reading now.

5mileys
5mileys

@SniperGod
Depends on the enemy's defenses, the weapon and how much Str/Skl you're comparing the Phys build with has. In lots of cases if you exploit the correct element an Arc weapon will shit on PvE enemies more than a Phys weapon, unless you popped BB Pellets and maybe added a buff.

Gigastrength
Gigastrength

@Illusionz
there's nothing keeping sony entertainment from telling fromsoft that bloodborne needs a sequel. and there's no reason to believe that this isnt another souls 2-3 B team (((sequel))) produced out of greed by larger companies that have fromsoft's soul in a jar on a shelf

if it's another miyazaki-brand game that sony threw money at, theres almost zero chance of it being BB2, but if sony says "we need a BB2" then the miyazaki part is totally optional.

TechHater
TechHater

@SniperGod
against specific monsters, definitely. With converted weapons, the AR isn't as high on the stats screen as it is with phys weapons, but what matters are the enemies defenses to the damage type. Weapons converted to arcane destroy Pthumerians in the dungeons as well as hunters who are resistant to physical damage. Bolt is very effective against kin enemies and bastards like the Undead Giants. Fire is pretty useful against everything, but is super effective against beasts and kin. Enemies who are buffed by one of the three elements are usually very weak to the other two.
I'd say fire is the most useful all around, because too many enemies seem to be randomly resistant to arcane and bolt - like more resistant than to physical attacks. People talk about how kin are weak to bolt but no one mentions that they are usually very weak to fire as well

PurpleCharger
PurpleCharger

@Harmless_Venom
The mystery and ambiguity are what make BB. Sure, you could elaborate on the mysteries without answering any questions, but that gets tiresome quickly. Take the Dark Souls franchise, for instance. As of Ringed City, the vagueness of the lore is so overwrought that nothing makes any sense whatsoever.

Emberfire
Emberfire

@JunkTop
WE all know it's going to be a soulsborne game

Honestly, that's not 100% guaranteed. As has been pointed out, From does have a history with first person games, and are supposedly meant to be making a PSVR title. A game that is to Shadow Tower what Dark Souls is to King's Field is not off the table.

LuckyDusty
LuckyDusty

@Emberfire
Really this will end up being what replaces Tenchu like DeS replaced King's Field

kizzmybutt
kizzmybutt

@Emberfire
My feeling is that From wouldn't be teasing a game at the VGAs if it wasn't something that would resonate with fans.

CouchChiller
CouchChiller

@Emberfire
VR shit

I want this meme to die.

cum2soon
cum2soon

@Bidwell
@Sharpcharm
I wonder what the dripping water on the side means. Is it dripping down the giant chisel / paintbrush, or is the giant chisel / paintbrush just part of a painting on the wall that has water dripping down it?

CodeBuns
CodeBuns

Can we even be sure of an announcement at PSX? From isn't on the list as far as I know.

Deadlyinx
Deadlyinx

Is it really happening, lads?

TreeEater
TreeEater

@CodeBuns
Its gonna be a surprise

@Emberfire
There will be a Souls-like game by Miyazaki as their main effort. They weren't doing that well before Dark Souls and they promoted him to company president after directing only two games because those games brought them such success. Their biggest hit before that was probably Armored Core 2, and they had already made like 10 other sequels to it

whereismyname
whereismyname

@Deadlyinx
no

SomethingNew
SomethingNew

@CodeBuns
Pretty much

whereismyname
whereismyname

@kizzmybutt
There's nothing to say that a spiritual successor to Shadow Tower wouldn't resonate with fans. It doesn't have to be some piddling little VR tech demo, it could just be a quality first person game that happens to have VR support.

Snarelure
Snarelure

@whereismyname
no, first person is shit for melee oriented RPG games.
From has not made a game like that in a long time. It's just not what they do anymore

Sir_Gallonhead
Sir_Gallonhead

@CodeBuns
The list never mattered. You can run a clip during a keynote and not have any presence during the showcase.
Why are there so many people taking very weak arguments that don't hold up with just a little research for granted lately?

Boy_vs_Girl
Boy_vs_Girl

@Snarelure
no, first person is shit for melee oriented RPG games.

You'd be surprised how well Dark Souls works with the First Person mods. Most melee oriented first person RPGs have shit combat because they just straight up have shit combat. Third person combat in Skyrim is just as bad as first person because it's just a bad system.

FastChef
FastChef

So do you guys want to adopt this game if it actually turns out to be another exclusive or will /bbg/ just stay /bbg/

Snarelure
Snarelure

@FastChef
/bbg/ just stay /bbg/
This

StrangeWizard
StrangeWizard

@Snarelure
I don't think bbg will be sustainable if there's another PS4 exclusive Souls-y game.

Really we should have DeS as well.

New_Cliche
New_Cliche

@Boy_vs_Girl
Skyrim's alright. I'd say its combat is pretty par for the course considering the genre. Given the variety of approaches to a given combat encounter, you can't expect the devs to perfect each and every nuance of the stealth/magic/melee system.

It's not like Soulsborne where the general idea is skill based melee combat.

Sharpcharm
Sharpcharm

RIP, the script in the background is kanji

5mileys
5mileys

@StrangeWizard
Really we should have DeS as well.
What's the point? It's about to die for real.

hairygrape
hairygrape

@StrangeWizard
If DeS remaster is real and the servers weren't just killed for nothing that would be nice, though /dsg/ might need it to survive instead

BunnyJinx
BunnyJinx

@FastChef
the problem will be if BB2 is also good but it is too different from the original, and people get mad about those changes. You will get two camps of people arguing about which game is better and for which mechanics.

Methshot
Methshot

@FastChef
We stay /bbg/, the other game will have it's own general.
If it's good enough to replace Bloodborne we move there, otherwise everything will be the same like it was after DSIII honeymoon phase ended.

JunkTop
JunkTop

@5mileys
Hows it gonna die?

Crazy_Nice
Crazy_Nice

@5mileys
I thought it was getting revitalized by the PS3 emulation scene?

BinaryMan
BinaryMan

@JunkTop
They're closing the servers for good.
What's the point of discussing an old ass game we can't even play together?

@Crazy_Nice
Doesn't have online.

Spazyfool
Spazyfool

@Methshot
I remember how /bbg/ wanted DS3 PS4 traffic
then the game came out and it was mediocre and all talks of that evaporated

Evilember
Evilember

@BinaryMan
Lore

Emberfire
Emberfire

@Sharpcharm
see @Inmate

Sharpcharm
Sharpcharm

@Evilember
DeS has been talked to death more than enough already.

5mileys
5mileys

@Sharpcharm
I could argue that PvP has been discussed to death

Skullbone
Skullbone

@Crazy_Nice
that's really pushing it. most of the people who'd be willing to play it on emu today are doing so because they got into souls @ ds3 and they want to be one of those cool kids who can say theyve played DeS, as if it's some kind of trophy and not a terrible, terrible beta of dark souls 1 with some redeeming aesthetic and artistic assets that set it apart

i'd only ever play DeS again if one of my non-souls-playing freinds happened to take interest because of it being emuable, and even then the capacity for co op in DeS is limited. i'd just tell them to buy Dark souls 1

Lord_Tryzalot
Lord_Tryzalot

@BinaryMan
there's no way they could spoof it so some kind of centralized unofficial online server is used in the emulated version and lets all the emulator players connect?

Skullbone
Skullbone

@Lord_Tryzalot
No, not with the current technology at least.

Harmless_Venom
Harmless_Venom

@Skullbone
a terrible, terrible beta of dark souls 1
I don't care for this post.

iluvmen
iluvmen

@BinaryMan
They're closing the servers for good.
when? Like Jan 1st, or sooner?

Emberburn
Emberburn

@iluvmen
February 28 according to google.

Lord_Tryzalot
Lord_Tryzalot

@Lord_Tryzalot
emulation of older "online" games is generally done with a 3rd party service that utilizes a LAN feature in the game, making something "always online" like DeS would be a nightmare and nobody is going to put that kind of time or money into developing a way to make it work, or to maintain whatever servers are connecting people

BlogWobbles
BlogWobbles

@Harmless_Venom
i have probably double time played on DeS than i do in Ds 1 or 2, it's a good game and i prefer the world it built for itself over the one in dark souls, but from a purely gameplay stance it made a fuckton of mistakes that were corrected in DS1 onward, even if it came at the expense of an interesting world to play in

Dreamworx
Dreamworx

I mean, does it HAVE to be BB2? Sure a sequel would be amazing but I'm not against something new but in the same vein

Shadows die twice could mean something regarding mechanics, like every invader type enemy you kill goes into a shadow realm or someshit and then if you die, you have to kill those invaders in order to reclaim your souls and get back to the real world

again, wouldn't mind if it isn't BB, I'm just excited about this new game, I thought it was supposed to be Armored Core

Nojokur
Nojokur

@Lord_Tryzalot
Yeah. You would have to know how the Demon's Souls matchmaking server worked first of all. The only time I've seen something like that work was with Halo 3 on PC (when Halo 3 was never released for PC.) There is a mod called "El Dewrito" that lets you play it online on PC for free. But that's just because the mod is made using leftover stuff from the cancelled Halo 3 Russian PC port.

Booteefool
Booteefool

@Dreamworx
nigger we've been over why it isn't BB2 about 10 times already
stop getting all your info from /v/ and twitch streamers

Lunatick
Lunatick

@Dreamworx
It could be anything, friend. Obviously the prospect of BB2 is going to be a hot button issue here, because this is /bbg/. But realistically all we know is that something gruesome is happening, and also shadows die twice apparently.

VisualMaster
VisualMaster

@BlogWobbles
I can't really argue with that but I still don't think it deserves to be called a "terrible, terrible beta" of DaS. I know I've got a boatload of nostalgia for DeS though and that definitely affects my opinion so that's the most I'll say.

Techpill
Techpill

New thread when?

Illusionz
Illusionz

been staring at this weird bone/iron thing making this grating noise for about 2 hours now
still not feeling the hype because we have nothing to go on besides it

idontknow
idontknow

I just realized Arianna and Adella have unique hair. Arianna's is slightly longer than the hair the similar hair the player can get, and Adella's is slightly shorter. No idea why they felt they needed to do that.

Boy_vs_Girl
Boy_vs_Girl

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