/dg/ - Destiny General

MPmaster
MPmaster

Eververse raid opening soon

LIVE EVENTS<<
Curse of Osiris DLC!
Nightfall: The Inverted Spire, with Attrition and Timewarp: Killing Time
Flashpoint: EDZ

NEWS<<
Latest TWAB (11/30/17): https://www.bungie.net/en/Explore/Detail/News/46513
Latest Patch News (12/5/17):
https://www.bungie.net/en/Explore/Detail/Update/46522
//
https://www.bungie.net/en/News/Article/46472 // https://www.bungie.net/en/News/Article/46474
CLANS<<
[Joining PS4: Message "/dg/" to one of the clan admins]
PS4: https://www.bungie.net/en/ClanV2?groupid=1985671 (FULL)
PS4 Extension: https://www.bungie.net/en/ClanV2?groupid=2107860

[Joining PC: Message the clan founder of LXIV or LXIV-VI with "/dg/" in the message]
PC: https://www.bungie.net/en/ClanV2?groupid=1988236 (FULL)
PC Extension: https://www.bungie.net/en/ClanV2?groupid=2862412

XB1: https://www.bungie.net/en/ClanV2?groupid=985322 (FULL)

LINKS<<
Item Management:
https://app.destinyitemmanager.com
Stat/Activity Tracking
https://destinytracker.com
Weekly Shit Checklist
https://www.d2checklist.com
Raid Completion Tracking
https://raid.report
Trials of the Nine Stat Tracking
https://trials.report
Item list
https://destinysets.com
Vendor Engrams
https://vendorengrams.xyz/

All urls found in this thread:
https://www.bungie.net/en/Explore/Detail/News/46513
https://www.bungie.net/en/Explore/Detail/Update/46522
https://www.bungie.net/en/News/Article/46472
https://www.bungie.net/en/News/Article/46474
https://www.bungie.net/en/ClanV2?groupid=1985671
https://www.bungie.net/en/ClanV2?groupid=2107860
https://www.bungie.net/en/ClanV2?groupid=1988236
https://www.bungie.net/en/ClanV2?groupid=2862412
https://www.bungie.net/en/ClanV2?groupid=985322
https://app.destinyitemmanager.com
https://destinytracker.com
https://www.d2checklist.com
https://raid.report
https://trials.report
https://destinysets.com
https://vendorengrams.xyz/
https://careers.bungie.com/en-us/careers/game-design/938163/senior-progression-designer---live
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NrtPUwqrF2E
https://youtu.be/el5yD2Ayokw
https://youtu.be/GWNxfarEo3o?t=2220
https://youtu.be/unnsZpnlNs8?t=1701
https://youtu.be/QAcC2TpcGA0
http://www.pcgamer.com/destiny-2s-eater-of-worlds-raid-lair-goes-live-on-friday-see-the-new-armor-now/
https://boards.fireden.net/vg/search/text/bungie%20reddit/
https://www.theverge.com/2017/12/7/16743470/destiny-2-curse-of-osiris-expansion-dlc-review-bungie
https://www.theverge.com/2017/12/7/16743470/destiny-2-curse-of-osiris-expansion-dlc-review-bungie
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PBeCY7rqvSs
PurpleCharger
PurpleCharger

This game is fun.

Soft_member
Soft_member

Create sustainable player progression and chase through Destiny 2’s Bright Engram
Work closely with our Live leadership team to craft a long-term vision for the Eververse and its presence in the Destiny IP
Work closely with our Live product manager to analyze key performance indicators to inform design
Design and implement new features and systems with an eye on engagement, retention, and monetization
Use data and design sensibilities to define strategies for maintaining ideal engagement patterns and maximizing player satisfaction
Work with Destiny 2 leadership to help define a cohesive monetization experience across multiple expansions and seasons
Manage the creative and craft growth of Progression designers on the Eververse team and help establish a strong design culture

Emberburn
Emberburn

This is pretty fucking awful man

Ignoramus
Ignoramus

Where is my reset Bungo

takes2long
takes2long

@MPmaster
Fuck you.

PurpleCharger
PurpleCharger

"...I was surprised by this reaction. Bungie has the financial backing of Activision, a publisher worth $18.9 billion. [...] The suggestion that they (the customers) would want to provide extra support to such a bank-rolling company in the same way they'd make donations to a Twitch streamer was a little shocking."

girlDog
girlDog

Ded game

askme
askme

Ah, I seem to have hit the endgame! Good thing I have my credit card ready for the SPENDGAME!

Playboyize
Playboyize

@Soft_member
people bitch about Destiny 1 not having any end game
bungie listens and designs Destiny 2 around endgame rewards (bright engrams)
people bitch about rewards being locked behind endgame (bright engrams)

et tu, /dg/?

iluvmen
iluvmen

Tfw wanna look nice but my recovery is shit. Hunter alt is suffering.

Sharpcharm
Sharpcharm

@Playboyize
people bitch about Destiny 1 not having any end game
Fucking WHAT? Who did this? There was plenty to do.

takes2long
takes2long

@Playboyize
a fucking casino token is a "end game reward"

ahahahahaahahahahahahaha
thats how they get you hooked you silly little goy

massdebater
massdebater

R8 my guardian bois

Anyway fuck de stats, I wan fashion!

JunkTop
JunkTop

@PurpleCharger
Its a fun game that could be a whole lot better and is handled really poorly.

Need_TLC
Need_TLC

@JunkTop
every game ever

happy_sad
happy_sad

@massdebater
Iofen?

Emberfire
Emberfire

I can't believe they made Osiris into such a boring character.
Muh Vex

Playboyize
Playboyize

@Emberfire
It could have been worse, just look at poor Vance.

eGremlin
eGremlin

What can Bungie realistically do now to salvage this?

Weapon system overhaul is unlikely at best.

Crucible 6v6 won't happen without new bigger maps.

Mercury needs a massive overhaul to be a patrol zone.

Raid is incredibly boring, lacks any good boss fights. Castellum banner fights might be the most fun part of the raid.

Only good thing they've done so far is the new Armour Ornaments. At least that acts as something to chase.

Would Bungie even give out free content updates to attempt to improve this game?

FastChef
FastChef

How do you get the prophecy weapons?

RumChicken
RumChicken

I wonder how many people used this opportunity to get a refund out of the remaining player base?

FastChef
FastChef

How should I mod Sunbreaker for PvE?

Evil_kitten
Evil_kitten

I don't want to be a DEEPEST LORE guy, especially since it's clear the people making this game don't give a shit about it

but it seems pretty apparent the exo stranger was working for osiris. He refers to his ghost as little light, the same thing she refers to ghosts as, And also theres the whole intimate knowledge of vex happenings

w8t4u
w8t4u

@eGremlin
Rework weapon system
Balance PvP and PvE separately
Bring back D1 patrol zones
Bring back D1 raids
Bring random perks to all guns and armors except end game. End game rewards have rerolling like Wotm armors
increase movement speed on all classes
make stats matter
rework skill trees

but they wont do shit. Fuck everything.

lostmypassword
lostmypassword

@w8t4u
You know without so many issues people wouldn't even care about the issues with Osiris, they'd just be happy to get $20 worth of anything. But the fact that they've strangled the patience out of the player base it leaves them with nothing.

Harmless_Venom
Harmless_Venom

@w8t4u
But won't that basically amount to making a new game?

Even if they wanted to, I don't think they can do it. Much less in any form of timeframe to save the playerbase.

takes2long
takes2long

@Evil_kitten
The Nightstalker lore page also references a ghost as Little Light. On the topic of lore though, just read the Book of Sorrow, that was wonderful. I hope they put grimoire cards back as Bright Engram rewards

happy_sad
happy_sad

@Harmless_Venom

Most of it would amount to making D1 y3 again.

VisualMaster
VisualMaster

@Evil_kitten
@takes2long
tfw you will never have a fem-voice ghost to do cute things with

LuckyDusty
LuckyDusty

@Harmless_Venom
nah. They could implement all of those changes if they wanted to

Nojokur
Nojokur

Planet vendor engrams haven't been showing any of the expansion legendaries for me, am I just getting unlucky with my rolls?
Additional rewards do show the weapons from no particular vendor, and Shaxx/Banshee both display the new legendaries in thier engram pool.

Evil_kitten
Evil_kitten

@LuckyDusty
How though?

Even just bringing back the patrol areas, strikes and raids means it'll all have to be remade in their new engine right?

Much less any sort of mechanic changes like random rolls and weapon slots.

Stats they might be able to fiddle the numbers around to make them more useful, and skill trees might have selectable perks since we can pick jumps, nades and class stuff.

Hmmm, this actually sounds more plausible now.

But Bungie being a big studio of over 700+ staff and only have CoO to show for it makes me think that even if they started today, it'll be years before it gets done.

Playboyize
Playboyize

@w8t4u
Maybe by Y3 we'll have a playable game. They will literally be forced to rework the weapon system because their balance model is shit and there are only so many mods you can make before people realize there are better games to waste their time with.

Sidegrades on sidegrades simply isn't an interesting enough model to play with, nor against. The current modalities don't defeat the meta either so most of the arsenal goes unplayed entirely. I feel like a lot of this is a product on their insistence that gameplay needs to be totally consistent between PVP and PVE which is currently gutting the game.

There's no reason to do any of the shit they've done with the balance and character building. There's no reason they can't disable certain mods for PVP or PVE if they do too much work. Conversely they could balance each mod individually for PVP performance.

The variety of play is super lackluster too, with only a handful of gamemodes and a handful of maps with limited playercount. The races and their varieties were weak in the first and they made zero improvement in the second iteration. Bosses just feel like scaled up standard enemies most of the time and a lot of the arenas are just awful to play in, not challenging, but badly designed.

Won't even touch on matchmaking which is in and of itself one of the biggest flaws the game possesses as it stands. Inventory management is a fucking joke. RNG rolls are a joke, and not a haha funny one either. I really want this game to be good, but I feel like Bungle is going to let the IP slip right through their fingers.

hairygrape
hairygrape

@Evil_kitten
Little Light is a common nickname for Ghosts.

Deadlyinx
Deadlyinx

@Playboyize
There's no reason they can't disable certain mods for PVP or PVE if they do too much work.

They already do this for the fucking Ghost Perks.

Somewhere in Bungo, they thought that Ghosts were in more desperate need of this functionality than the actual game.

Lunatick
Lunatick

posted towards the end of last thread so I will try again, Female Titan [male] any clans out there?

massdebater
massdebater

How do I make my Titan look neat?
All armor looks kinda dumb

eGremlin
eGremlin

@VisualMaster
is it worth having a gf who will do adorable things but you can never sexual with?

Fried_Sushi
Fried_Sushi

someone glitched into an area that looks like the infinite forest on Io
in greek myth, Argos Panoptes was a guardian of Io
Mercury patrol zone looks like they built it from a crucible map

If it was going to be Io dlc, I wonder why they changed it. Did they think adding a halfassed patrol zone would make everyone say "well at least it added more than TDB"?

TechHater
TechHater

@iluvmen
Atleast recovery regens health faster at lower levels now

SniperGod
SniperGod

@eGremlin
He doesn't think you can do sexual things to a ghost
user...

Snarelure
Snarelure

@Lunatick
No

kizzmybutt
kizzmybutt

@SniperGod
I mean..I guess you could always mod a fleshlight shell
for ghosts that want to please their guardian

Stark_Naked
Stark_Naked

@kizzmybutt
Now you're getting it user.

GoogleCat
GoogleCat

@Nojokur
I've gotten the new sniper and fusion from Devrim, and the same sniper from Asher, just keep plugging away at it.

Lunatick
Lunatick

@Lunatick

playing destiny

Gigastrength
Gigastrength

@massdebater
Travel back in time by a few years

Sharpcharm
Sharpcharm

complete a mercury rank
gives me a rattler and one kairos gold

eGremlin
eGremlin

@Gigastrength
DELET

Firespawn
Firespawn

reddit still defending CoO as a bargain and the best DLC ever made
when will they learn? at least peple here stick to their principles and nobody bought CoO anyway

still playing D1 vanilla here

StonedTime
StonedTime

To the user who told me to try the Telesto in PvP last thread - holy shit, that was hilarious. People really aren't prepared for that delayed explosive, got a few tasty multikills out of it.

PackManBrainlure
PackManBrainlure

@Firespawn

You sure? I glanced at it and the salt was unending

PurpleCharger
PurpleCharger

@Firespawn

A cursory glance at the front page and I couldn't find a single positive post.

Inmate
Inmate

@Firespawn
why lie on the internet?

SniperGod
SniperGod

@Gigastrength
I just bought the McFarlane figure of that. The middle doesn't connect properly so his chest just pops off if you try to move it too much , and the head fin is squished, but it's really fucking good otherwise. Nice weight and feel.

Gigastrength
Gigastrength

@SniperGod
Post pics

FastChef
FastChef

@Fried_Sushi
halfassed patrol zone
Glorified Public Event.

Half the map is for that one "two tokens and a blue meme" event.

I can't believe that they have so many employees, boasted about enlisting other Studio for content creation, and made this.

The worst part is, f2p games give better content in free updates. Warframe is constantly mentioned, but look at others too, like War Thunder for example. Substantial content to grind and play with every major patch.

Lunatick
Lunatick

@Gigastrength
I would, but I'm not at home atm. I'll take some pics when I get back, if I remember.

BlogWobbles
BlogWobbles

EXP scam
poptart scam
multiple lies during development
vanilla nightfalls and other content locked behind DLC

Why even keep this piece of shit? Fuck Bungie and fuck that fat faggot Luke Smith.

TechHater
TechHater

why the fuck is my Titan getting Warlock items out of engrams?
the fucking cheek of it.

Lord_Tryzalot
Lord_Tryzalot

@FastChef
The mercury PE is the most rewarding PE now. I was running in the EDZ for my flashpoint and clan milestone, most heroics only dropped a single token, and I got a blue maybe 1 out of 5 done. At this point, lost sectors drop more tokens, gear, and glimmer than a heroic. Fuck, even a high value target drops more than a heroic.

Spazyfool
Spazyfool

@Lord_Tryzalot
It is pretty fucking weird that the high value targets that sometimes spawn along with events are more profitable than the event themselves, token wise.

lostmypassword
lostmypassword

Why the fuck is my framerate shitting itself for no reason?

It's never had this problem

is it to do with that clan bullshit

Firespawn
Firespawn

@Spazyfool
They only spawn during the event if the planet is that weeks flashpoint, and you get something until about 30 seconds after the event ends to kill them. I've been having them drop 3 tokens, 500 - 1k glimmer, and some gear, even a legendary a couple times.

MPmaster
MPmaster

@Spazyfool
The one semi event where you have to literally jump through hoops to kill a bunch of yellow bar hobgoblins, and then repeat it for some yellow bar minotaurs is even better for rewards than the public event. And takes less time and effort.

CouchChiller
CouchChiller

@PackManBrainlure
L o L
Better late then never

TechHater
TechHater

@lostmypassword
i've been getting 10+ fps on average since the patch.

Bidwell
Bidwell

So, Hunters can get decent recovery finally?

Snarelure
Snarelure

@PackManBrainlure
im going to apply

SomethingNew
SomethingNew

@PackManBrainlure
I'll do it for free.
Make drops not suck. stop dropping dupes while not dropping 1-2 items 8n any given pool. Make strikes worth doing in terms of rewards. Up crucible to 6v6 in casual, and 4v4 on competitive, and give better drops for comp games to match. Remove the stupid ass chest lockout all together, but make levels take more coins.

w8t4u
w8t4u

@Snarelure
do you have an english degree, hate the patriarchy, are a person of color with a side cut and dyed hair, and have never played a video game before? just asking, that seems to be their ideal hire.

Evilember
Evilember

Can someone post a decent sized image of an exotic engram in their inventory, preferably not being highlighted

Stark_Naked
Stark_Naked

@PackManBrainlure
Click the link, they want the new hire to do it via microtransactions.

https://careers.bungie.com/en-us/careers/game-design/938163/senior-progression-designer---live

Create sustainable player progression and chase through Destiny 2’s Bright Engram

AwesomeTucker
AwesomeTucker

@Stark_Naked
Top priority is Eververse

Flameblow
Flameblow

@TechHater
I got booted and asked to reboot the blizz launcher but that was a few hours ago I don't understand why it's happening now the fucking fps counter is 200+ but it looks like a fucking slideshow

Bungie does it again

StrangeWizard
StrangeWizard

Quick question- does anybody know how synthoceps stack with supers and swords?

They glow(activate) when I swing a sword but Idk if I get increased lunge or damage. Likewise when i use my super I can't tell if its working.

Lunatick
Lunatick

@AwesomeTucker
You say top priority, but this is a hire coming 2 years after they introduced the store.

Evilember
Evilember

@StrangeWizard
I'm pretty sure they increase lunge range for swords, combine it with the titan sword and it's retarded how far away you can hit with in crucible

iluvmen
iluvmen

@Lunatick
The bigger area of disappointment should be they waited 2 years to try to make the cosmetic store worth wanting to buy from beyond completions sake.

Techpill
Techpill

5th telesto in a row

TurtleCat
TurtleCat

Create sustainable player progression and chase through Destiny 2’s Bright Engram
Work closely with our Live leadership team to craft a long-term vision for the Eververse and its presence in the Destiny IP
Work closely with our Live product manager to analyze key performance indicators to inform design
Design and implement new features and systems with an eye on engagement, retention, and monetization
Use data and design sensibilities to define strategies for maintaining ideal engagement patterns and maximizing player satisfaction
Work with Destiny 2 leadership to help define a cohesive monetization experience across multiple expansions and seasons
Manage the creative and craft growth of Progression designers on the Eververse team and help establish a strong design culture

Lord_Tryzalot
Lord_Tryzalot

Yesterday opened 2 exotics and got skullfort helmet.
I just opened a new exotic and another fucking skullfort.

Poker_Star
Poker_Star

@PackManBrainlure
bungie ARE hiring?
I don't think that's correct
there are multiple people however they are acting as a single entity

FastChef
FastChef

FUCK YOU BUNGIE WHY DID YOU HAVE TO MAKE THE GAME SO FUN TO PLAY AND SOMEHOW COMPLETELY FUCK IT UP AT THE SAME TIME

TreeEater
TreeEater

listen they can try all they want to make eververse appealing but the fact is they blew their wad with this little number

nothing in that store will ever top it
and I have it so I can ignore everything else

DeathDog
DeathDog

@Lord_Tryzalot
I feel you man, thus far into the DLC I've gotten 1 of each Aeon Cult exotic, then 3 Vigilance Wings, and 2 Mask of the Quiet Ones. One new thing, I don't even have half the non-DLC exotics.

GoogleCat
GoogleCat

Have anybody bought the expansion pass? Is it worth it to buy the curse of Osiris?

LuckyDusty
LuckyDusty

@Need_TLC
No, not every game. The failures of D2 go far beyond the norm.

farquit
farquit

@GoogleCat

KEK

Bidwell
Bidwell

@GoogleCat
Is it worth it to buy the curse of Osiris?
No

idontknow
idontknow

@TreeEater
selfie is pretty fucking good
i also like the arrested development chicken dances

StonedTime
StonedTime

they put more thought into e-motes than they did into the game

No reason to play the game at all.

Crazy_Nice
Crazy_Nice

@DeathDog
Also I'm light 310 having legendaries at 313 etc and my fucking exotix goes to 312

WebTool
WebTool

You know

Panoptes would have made for a pretty cool vex-centered raid boss.

TechHater
TechHater

@Evilember
Thats what I thought- but the titansword is already 12 feet long so I'm skeptical

WebTool
WebTool

@SomethingNew
sorry, they only want someone who is willing to do player progression through lootboxes. read the posting.

JunkTop
JunkTop

@WebTool
PANOPTES FACE ME! was the best moment in this DLC

Spamalot
Spamalot

@Lord_Tryzalot
have gotten one exotic engram thus far
the goat helmet for titan
Xur and his "no dupes" engrams need to the hurry the fuck up.

iluvmen
iluvmen

@PackManBrainlure
Bungie can save themselves the money.
All they have to do is look at and copy warframe for a grinding model and economy that will keep players coming back. Just remove the "pay real cash for insta-gets" and there you go.

I doubt there are any, but if there is in fact a bungie employee lurking in /dg/: Look at fucking Warframe.

Snarelure
Snarelure

@GoogleCat
Wait and see if Christmas sale, somehow. Its worth something but not the asking price.

cum2soon
cum2soon

@JunkTop
PANOPTES FACE ME! was the best moment in this DLC

I really liked that moment when the Cabal Valus came crashing down and smashed the Gatelord in a single attack. That was, without a doubt, the single and only moment that made Cabal actually look like battle hardened war-crazed super behemoths you should take seriously. It was way more badass than Ghaul.

GoogleCat
GoogleCat

@JunkTop
I preferred Paninis reveal or the Cabal DUNK

WebTool
WebTool

@cum2soon
"That minotaur is going to be a problem."
said minotaur then gets fucked raw by Chad valus
It was pretty great.

TalkBomber
TalkBomber

@WebTool
The Vigin Ga(y)telord
The Chad Phallus

Booteefool
Booteefool

@idontknow
and the mother fucking time warp

Inmate
Inmate

Spend almost an entire stream talking about infinite forest.
Put out ads and videos on infinite forest.
Turns out you can't just go into it.
You can only go through it on one of the four adventures on mercury.
Literally what was the fucking point? They've basically spent the last month going "OMG YOU CAN TOTALLY GO INTO MISSION AREAS WHEN ON MISSIONS!!"

cum2soon
cum2soon

@cum2soon
@GoogleCat
@WebTool
@TalkBomber

E I G H T H U N D R E D P O U N D S A N D H E A V Y M I L I T A R I Z E D

MPmaster
MPmaster

@Inmate
Literally this

Wasn't it marketed as a new PvE activity? I thought we were getting something similar to the Prison of Elders, where the infinite forest was a random roll dungeon, similar to shit from Diablo.

Instead it's just a fucking storyline thing that we run through and then never go back to? The fuck?

Is it even fucking randomly rolled?

massdebater
massdebater

@Inmate
does anyone actually do the infinite forest?
like what is the actual point of engaging with it?
I throw on my stompies, take out a sword, and just run past everything ignoring the enemies unless theres a demon, which I just swipe at a few times and continue

Burnblaze
Burnblaze

the /dg/ clan haven't done any of the clan milestones

really says something about the game

PurpleCharger
PurpleCharger

@Inmate
@MPmaster
NuBungie is the ultimate loser who always grasps defeat from the jaws of victory.

Need_TLC
Need_TLC

@MPmaster
It is. At least between the regular and heroic versions.

5mileys
5mileys

What do you get for beating the heroic adventure objective within the time limit? I failed to reach the time limit and Vance still gave me a lost prophecy so what the fuck do you get for doing it?

@massdebater
What's the actual point of engaging it.
That was my point, all that hype for literally nothing.

@Burnblaze
Dude they couldn't even squeeze in enough content to be allowed to put in achievements on the DLC, its fucking embarrassing, fucking House of Wolves was superior to this. Not to mention that they ripped it off too.
Both DLCs start with a run through the layer of a /new/ fallen house which leads off with fighting a fallen walker with a heavy pike and peaks with fighting a fallen captain inside an old structure.

JunkTop
JunkTop

sorry guys
im done
just wanna put it out there somewhere before i uninstall something i sunk so much time into
thanks for the memories
and bye

CodeBuns
CodeBuns

@5mileys
You get the exact same shit you would normally get.
The timers and checkpoints mean nothing at all.

Nojokur
Nojokur

TDB and HoW were master pieces compared to CoO

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NrtPUwqrF2E

This glitchy PoS.

Booteefool
Booteefool

Maestro-46
High Impact Sniper
Four in the mag
Triple Tap

Damn nice, now they just need to buff sniper damage for PvE and have an activity where Snipers are useful and this bitch will be my go-to weapon.

Sharpcharm
Sharpcharm

@JunkTop
see you on tuesday at reset

farquit
farquit

@Evilember
Taken King era /dg/ was best /dg/.
It was also Destiny's apex.

TalkBomber
TalkBomber

@Sharpcharm
reset and for what? a skinner box loop and a cash shop
got better games to play man

viagrandad
viagrandad

@farquit
GIVE US THE SHIP OR WE BLOW THE PRIMUS

TreeEater
TreeEater

This is the way Destiny ends
Not with a bang, but with a whimper

RumChicken
RumChicken

Playing strikes reminded me how stupid this community is. The game is not even hard. Strikes even less so. How come two people, in a team, die every five steps? This isn't normal. You actively have to try and be this bad.

Spazyfool
Spazyfool

@farquit
Did anyone ever autistically figure out the sleeper code or did we all just use Reddit?

SniperGod
SniperGod

you can refund digital copies of the base game on Xbox
o i am laffin

Emberburn
Emberburn

@eGremlin
Weapon system overhaul is unlikely at best.
D3
Crucible 6v6 won't happen without new bigger maps.
D3
Mercury needs a massive overhaul to be a patrol zone.
people will forget about mercury in a week
Raid is incredibly boring, lacks any good boss fights. Castellum banner fights might be the most fun part of the raid.
lies but we are getting new raid

farquit
farquit

@RumChicken
I run in and suicide to kill as many enemies as possible or I die trying to skip the non-mandatory bits of the strikes so we can finish the strike within 7 minutes. But there is literally no point in doing strikes in Destiny 2. I used to be able to play some music and zone out while playing strikes in D1 and get some exotics and materials and do quests. There's nothing to do or get in D2.

haveahappyday
haveahappyday

@SniperGod
Good for you xboners. You don't have to play this piece of shit anymore.

5mileys
5mileys

Whoever they hire for their "progression manager" I hope that person realizes that the best endgame is a self-sustaining economy. Something that fuels itself throug people participating in it (while rewarding said participants for participation).

Spamalot
Spamalot

@King_Martha
YOU HAVE DRAWN THE GORGON'S GAZE

Fried_Sushi
Fried_Sushi

I don't understand how Bungie just keeps digging themselves deeper. How is it harder to them to NOT do all their bullshit? Like if they just didn't do what they're doing, they could save themselves so fucking easily. It would take the exact same (or less) amount of effort/time/etc to just make the game not shit. To fix their problems and gain back the favor of their player/fanbase would be SO FUCKING EASY.

And yet they just dig deeper and deeper into the cesspit they're in like people won't notice? I just don't understand, I can't comprehend it.

SniperGod
SniperGod

people in this thread never watched the stream and over hyped themselves imagining the infinite forest as more than mission chunks changing order in the matrix chasm, then they spent money, and are now outraged
you deserve it tbqh

takes2long
takes2long

@Fried_Sushi
They must be working on some new project in secret, and they have a skeleton crew shitting out Destiny just to fulfill the contract with Activision. That or they're just incompetent retards.

RumChicken
RumChicken

@Fried_Sushi
game development is easy and quick

WebTool
WebTool

@takes2long
https://youtu.be/el5yD2Ayokw

RumChicken
RumChicken

While I agree that Mercury is too small to be a patrol zone, I really like the Heroic adventures thing in the infinite Forrest. I solo'd the cabal one last night and it kicked my fucking ass, reminded me of a mini nightfall. I really hope that they add a heroic mission replay for Ikora's meditations, and let all players who participate in it get rewards.

The downside is tho, with such a small patrol area, its hard to just wait around for the public event without just jerkin around doing patrols, and then you might not even be instanced with someone who wants to do it. i dont think I have a quick fix for that besides upping the encounter rate for the public event so its all but constant, or always instancing the play with more players since most are going into the Forrest and fucking off for 15-20 mins.

AwesomeTucker
AwesomeTucker

@Fried_Sushi
still think they are making it tank on purpose to either get out of their contract with activision for a third game or to get bought out by activision.

PurpleCharger
PurpleCharger

@RumChicken
that would be a legit excuse if the "content" in destiny wasnt so goddamn lazy and the bosses arent just bigger versions of regular enemies and THEY DONT EVEN FUCKING MOVE

Bidwell
Bidwell

@RumChicken
The problem is not the amount of effort but the horrid planning that sometimes goes against all common sense. The misuse of the Infinite Forest is an example of this complete nonsense. It sometimes seems like Bungo intentionally takes the worst possible development path because no one company can be naturally this stupid.

DeathDog
DeathDog

@PurpleCharger
Which bosses do you mean?

King_Martha
King_Martha

@SniperGod
Who are you quoting, user?
Bungie said "new activity, infinite forest." People in this thread expected a new activity, and infinite forest ended up being just a hallway you go through during the three adventures on Mercury. Nobody here expected anything. Here's your (you).

Raving_Cute
Raving_Cute

@RumChicken
They are spending hundreds of thousands of dollars to make a shitty product. Whether it's Bungie themselves, higher ups fucking with their game because of microtransactions, or Activision meddling with it, whose really to say?

But just think of all the time/effort/money/etc spent on the game just to shit out what we get? They could spend all of the same shit and just make a good product. It would be that easy. They don't have to constantly rape their playerbase and game; they could just make it good.

Carnalpleasure
Carnalpleasure

@DeathDog
All of them?
Exodus Crash - Big Vandal
Inverted Spire - Big Minotaur
Pyramidion - Big Hobgoblin
Savathun's Song - Big Shrieker
Arms Dealer - Not even a big cabal

whereismyname
whereismyname

@Emberburn
Raid is incredibly boring, lacks any good boss fights. Castellum banner fights might be the most fun part of the raid.
lies but we are getting new raid

I don't see how what he said is wrong.

Sure, a raid boss should be more than just a tougher bullet sponge. It needs some mechanics.

But the Levi Raid is nothing but that. I'm not fighting off hordes of mobs while trying to deal whatever damage I can to the boss.

The raid should be like a WoW raid boss. Hell, even Borderlands 2 had better bosses than anything in d2.

I remember the rush of being barely alive as I try to do as much damage as I can to the bosses in that game.

The Levi raid here is a glorified singleplayer experience scaled to 6 people. There isn't a single satisfying boss fight in it at all.

Baths is just stand on a platform until the timer runs out while swapping places with others. Nothing special happens, even when shooting the lanterns in the middle.

Dogs is pseudo stealth with the fighting relying wholly on whether you smashed enough flowers. With timers strapped on.

Gauntlet in 3 waves of adds, a simple shooting puzzle / running track rinse and repeat till everyone runs.

Calus is probably the most disappointing of all, no epic fight, just another puzzle then go stand still and shoot at him.

The strike bosses in this game are far better than him, particularly Arms Dealer, that's a fight that was fun and satisfying.

Fuzzy_Logic
Fuzzy_Logic

@Carnalpleasure
Let's add the DLC
A garden World - Big Cyclops
Forgot the name of the other one - Normal sized Colossus
No idea about the ps4 strike but my bet is, it's the same.

DeathDog
DeathDog

@whereismyname
I like Savathun's and Arms Dealer and I find it annoying as fuck that I get the other three about 12 times more often than them. Haven't seen the new Strikes either, so that's cool. Just tons of Exodus Black and Inverted Spire, and then Pyramidion sometimes, but less often because the level part is actually okay.

Evil_kitten
Evil_kitten

@Carnalpleasure
Ah, you meant strike bosses. I see what you mean. But I would argue against Brakion JUST being a big hobgoblin. His fight is interesting and typically fun. Same with the ending to Savathun's song, his size and power means you have to fight him differently, ESPECIALLY in the nightfall version, where you need to coordinate with who is currently targeted.

Also, i could be wrong, but I thought the nessus one was a captain, but i dunno.

Flameblow
Flameblow

@MPmaster
Is bungie absolutely filled with fucking inept monkeys? Why in the fuck don't they play test their fucking guns before releasing them? Pic related is the most stupidly broken piece of shit in crucible.

Techpill
Techpill

@Flameblow
They did it on purpose.

release new DLC
DLC has a stupidly OP gun
people will buy the DLC for the gun
issue a fix two weeks later

eGremlin
eGremlin

@Bidwell
what misuse, its literally just a level theme that changes order because the story is about being in the vex matrix

they had to make levels so they added a small thing for flavor to them

why do you act like this is some huge slight on you

@PurpleCharger
you and i have no idea what is lazy or what isnt

what you really mean is they are dumb, because no matter if its a good or bad game its colossal challenge to get anything to work

https://youtu.be/GWNxfarEo3o?t=2220

Lord_Tryzalot
Lord_Tryzalot

@whereismyname
Castellum banner fights might be the most fun part of the raid.
kys

MPmaster
MPmaster

@Evil_kitten
Brakion teleports as soon as you start tickling him and then melts when he teleported 3 times.
I didn't fight savathuns thing any different than I'd fight any other shrieker, if there were any. Shoot it until it's gone and shoot while running when you're targeted. The nightfall doesn't require more coordination than the normal one.

likme
likme

@Lord_Tryzalot
You didn't find it fun facing the enemy hordes? It's a pretty fun fight.

WebTool
WebTool

@eGremlin
I gist I feel most of us had was that Infinite Forest was going to be some kind of randomized content, like Rifts from D3 or something. Then it turns out there's very slight randomization and you go there only for story and a few adventures and it's kind of a let down. People were hoping for some sort of randomized content that would give incentive to do it for a decent period of time, maybe just an alternative to public events.

And what's kind of upsetting about that is that the pieces are there for that exact thing, they wouldn't even need to make more content or stress themselves coding all that much, just put it together and bam, done.

@MPmaster
So essentially if you ignore phases and fight mechanics, they're the same as normal enemies. At least play down the mechanics for not being complex or interesting instead of just not mentioning them.

takes2long
takes2long

@Fried_Sushi
It's easy to point out the flaw in their mentality: It's the "we want to please everyone" mindset.

That has never, ever worked out and never will. It's not worth the effort anyway because a large chunk of players are those who play a flavor of the month and then drop it or those who play it sporadically (I have 19 jobs etc). "hardcore" gamers, the ones who waste their lives away grinding for items that allow them to grind more are the ones who keep playing and sustain the game. During Destiny 1's biggest content droughts the reason people came back each weekend was ToO. A tryhard mode that was the closest the game had to competitive.

LuckyDusty
LuckyDusty

@WebTool
The enemy running away and having adds spawn is not something I'd call a mechanic.

WebTool
WebTool

@King_Martha
source you dumb nigger

https://youtu.be/unnsZpnlNs8?t=1701

heres when they showed it on stream, they dont hide its an adventure

https://youtu.be/QAcC2TpcGA0 launch trailer didnt mention it at all

lostmypassword
lostmypassword

@Fuzzy_Logic
PS4 one is a taken centurion.
Half the endgame content did this shit too.
Vault of glass - giant minotaur.
Crota's end - giant knight.
Prison of Elders - Giant Captain.

Its like this.

Cannon fodder standard enemy size.
High value targets and story bosses enemy size x 1.5.
Strike bosses enemy size x2
Raid bosses enemy size x3

God forbid they make an endgame activity higher than raids, we'll have to fight bosss that are regular enemies but four times the size.

hairygrape
hairygrape

@Fried_Sushi
They are too far up their own ass. I wouldnt be surprised if Deej and other community managers dont actually talk to anyone about what the community wants.

Techpill
Techpill

@Flameblow
I got it the second I booted up DLC. Went to do my 25 competitive wins for the crucible armor ornament. It was hilarious watching all these people running around with coldheart trying to compete with their little welfare exotic.

SniperGod
SniperGod

@RumChicken
I really like the Heroic adventures thing in the infinite Forrest.

We need way, way more though. And more unique ones too. Not just "run in, kill a yellow, warp out" missions. How about actual puzzles? Just basic shit like block moving a la Zelda, or shuffle puzzles, or the hat game would be a change.

The forest could also be an opportunity to have enemies that never made the cut to become actual enemies factions in the game. Have a few spread out enemies you don't see them anywhere else. You know, races the Vex encountered/erased in the past and are now simulated.

The intro cinematic showed a scene from Vault of Glass. THis would be a perfect lore explanation to have it in the game again: The vex simulate it and you just fuck it up by going in there again.

And then of course the Forest could have been Destiny's version of Chalice Dungeons.

Dreamworx
Dreamworx

@Raving_Cute
its not easy when they fired all the talented staff and hired legions of morons

then when you have a community based game made by morons for morons the fanbase is just as bad as bungie and its an infinite feedback loop

girlDog
girlDog

Has anybody found any expecially tasty ornaments they are thirsty for? I've only touched the jokespansion with my titan so far but I really want the crucible helm ornament. So clean and simple

PackManBrainlure
PackManBrainlure

@WebTool
source you dumb nigger
???? I know what it was, I asked what you are talking about. Can you calm down for a second friend?

eGremlin
eGremlin

Osiris-level good

Garbage Can Lid
Garbage Can Lid

@eGremlin
I'm surprised this isn't a meme yet

PackManBrainlure
PackManBrainlure

@whereismyname
wants raid to be a strike
thanks reddit

Crazy_Nice
Crazy_Nice

@Flameblow
using this in crucible is the most fun experience I've had in d2

cum2soon
cum2soon

@likme
you get some good banter in party chat but other than that

DeathDog
DeathDog

@lostmypassword
Is it weird that the only enemy group that I'm bothered by them just making bigger to indicate strength is Cabal? I think my suspension of disbelief lets me just think that it's just a big Vex or a well fed Knight or Fallen incredibly jacked up on ether.

Cabal are sometimes just inexplicably huge.

iluvmen
iluvmen

???

Booteefool
Booteefool

@Flameblow
its bugged
@WebTool
like i said, that was your hopes, not what bungie showed before it came out. you only have yourself to blame

Poker_Star
Poker_Star

@DeathDog
Cabal are sometimes just inexplicably huge.
Spent too much time in the ooze.

Illusionz
Illusionz

@Techpill
@Flameblow
No, heres what happened

playerbase complains about x y or z
ttk is too long!
exotics dont feel exotic!
I cant ever win if I'm outnumbered

Bungie: we hear you loud and clear guardian!
makes awesome exotic as a test
gives it 0 ZERO 0 competition
doesnt balance ANYTHING ELSE AT ALL in sandbox tuning around said weapon
the lens turns shit players into a threat and good players into demigods
oh well shit guardians its bugged, sorry about that

Shame is I probably wont even get it to use even in pve before it gets gutted back to coldheart status. Not saying thats bad, but how often do you see coldheart in pvp?

SniperGod
SniperGod

@PackManBrainlure
Bungie said "new activity, infinite forest." People in this thread expected a new activity
source you dumb nigger
???? I know what it was, I asked what you are talking about. Can you calm down for a second friend?
you are really mentally handicapped, im asking you where bungie said it was a new activity

I posted the launch trailer and stream that dont call it a new activity, the stream shows it as part of an adventure

askme
askme

@DeathDog
@Poker_Star

My favorite theory regarding that is that Cabal just never stop growing all their life. So the bigger ones are also the older ones.

But I dunno if that's actually the stated reason somewhere in the lore or just made up.

CouchChiller
CouchChiller

1 more for quick nf

Fuzzy_Logic
Fuzzy_Logic

@SniperGod
Yes, both of those quotes are me. Can you calm down, seriously? I'm asking you what you meant, not what infinite forest is.

Dreamworx
Dreamworx

@Booteefool
It was also an incredibly likely thing to produce given the description, and extremely easy to produce given the assets they made. Even if they didn't promise it, it is still a completely missed opportunity in a DLC that is incredibly lacking in content. So yeah, going back a few replies, I think 'misuse' is a pretty good way to describe how the Infinite Forest was put in.

So yeah, shame on me for seeing opportunity and hoping Bungie would actually do something with it instead of just making all the pieces and leaving them scattered on the floor. They specifically called attention to it in a bunch of fashions, like it being the center piece between Mercury and the Lighthouse as if it was its own unique entity rather than just the mission part of Mercury.

Poker_Star
Poker_Star

@hairygrape
it takes a fair amount of time to change things

CoO was well done before september

exp 2 will be better but you will have to wait for comet for substantial improvement

Boy_vs_Girl
Boy_vs_Girl

@askme
Callus is the largest cabal
He is the oldest, survived the longest
This is why he's their emperor
He is their Elder Guru

NAIL! NAAAAAIIIIIIILLLLLLL!

Deadlyinx
Deadlyinx

Well at least we'll have The Dawning next week.
Though I assume without SRL since bungie hasn't namedropped that anywhere yet.

SniperWish
SniperWish

@eGremlin
@Garbage Can Lid
???

CodeBuns
CodeBuns

@Deadlyinx
lol

whereismyname
whereismyname

I'm just kind heartbroken with D2. Why is it that a game in 2017 has less replay value that other FPS loot games from '09, and '12 (yes, Borderlands).
The game is very pretty, and it plays well (other than the Crucible), but why is low replay value even a problem in this time in gaming? No disrespect to Gearbox, and their work, I love Borderlands to death, but you would think that given time, and with such a heavy name, that Bungie would knock it out of the park, with the second installment. Every dev seems to learn from some mistake with their second game, but not this one.

Of course this is relative, as my taste/enjoyment isn't the same as yours, but it still bothers me.

farquit
farquit

@Poker_Star
maybe they should make changes that people request and stop putting so much effort into microtransactions

takes2long
takes2long

nightfall 2/3 anyone?

TreeEater
TreeEater

@whereismyname
min maxing $/effort

Firespawn
Firespawn

@Fuzzy_Logic
you didnt ask me anything

you said
Who are you quoting, user? Bungie said "new activity, infinite forest." People in this thread expected a new activity, and infinite forest ended up being just a hallway you go through during the three adventures on Mercury. Nobody here expected anything. Here's your (you).

theres no question there

source nigger
however is a question, that you didnt answer

Garbage Can Lid
Garbage Can Lid

Change Crucible to standardized equipment
All players now have a new page for their Crucible gear
All equipment is bland and blank, but players can unlock cosmetic upgrades and use shaders.
Bungo stops trying to balance PvP and can focus on making the equipment fun in PvE.

idontknow
idontknow

@whereismyname
borderlands is even worse than destiny
@farquit
tfw never bought a single silver

eGremlin
eGremlin

@farquit
effort
microtransactions

JunkTop
JunkTop

@Firespawn
you didnt ask me anything
@King_Martha
Who are you quoting, user?

You should calm down friend, it seems you're so upset you can't even understand basic things people are telling you.

VisualMaster
VisualMaster

@Garbage Can Lid
Or just give a standardised, same start mode for wannabe MLG fags and leave normal PvP to go full retard

Your idea works, tho. It also incrreases the gear hunt, which some autists want

MPmaster
MPmaster

@JunkTop
he doesnt implication chevron

JunkTop
JunkTop

@SniperWish
???

Fried_Sushi
Fried_Sushi

@massdebater
Anyway fuck de stats, I wan fashion!
can't make both work

S M H

girlDog
girlDog

@MPmaster
Absolutely seething lmao.

FastChef
FastChef

@girlDog
truly ebin

Spazyfool
Spazyfool

@massdebater
Anyway fuck de stats, I wan fashion!
has dogshit fashion
???

Bidwell
Bidwell

vanguard knew that mercury was a massive vex computer
the almighty was eating/absorbing/whatever mercury as fuel for its beam to collapse the sun
vanguard didn't have us just aim the almighty's beam away from the sun and let it devour mercury before we blew it up
could have destroyed mercury, and the vex probability engine, and ended the threat

Deadlyinx
Deadlyinx

@cum2soon
Reminds me of TTK's shield brothers strike on the Dreadnought, something about the idea of the two commanders ramming their ship into the Dreadnought and being so fucking war crazed that they decide to run train through the Dreadnought together was pretty fucking cool

Methshot
Methshot

@viagrandad
Guns out for the Primus

RavySnake
RavySnake

FINGERTIPS ON THE SURFACE OF MY ______

FastChef
FastChef

@RavySnake
CLOACA

Deadlyinx
Deadlyinx

@RavySnake
WALLET

WebTool
WebTool

@RavySnake
OSIRIS LEVEL

Spazyfool
Spazyfool

@Evilember
Can someone explain this meme to me, I was barely posting here during the taken King era

Supergrass
Supergrass

@RavySnake
FINGERTIPS

Crazy_Nice
Crazy_Nice

@RavySnake
OMNIGULL

iluvmen
iluvmen

Just think about all the cool stuff you could put into the Infinite Forest that has no place anywhere else in the game.

Simulation re-runs of the fight between Quria and the Hive
Simulations re-runs of past races the vex have murdered
Cut content stuffed in there
Rooms are assembled randomly and keep chaining for as long as you are willing to keep going
Enemy set up in each room is randomized too: Sometimes Fallen and Vex, Sometimes Hive and Cabal
Individual enemy unity are randomized too and come with unique color schemes and patterns and different AI behaviour
Skyboxes and Environment tiles are randomized too (can have Nessus sky with Mercury desert, EDZ skybox with titan's platforms etc.)
Loot tiers based on how far you made it into the forest (every ten levels or so nets you a reward)
Forest is the only place that drops randomized loot

Nojokur
Nojokur

@Bidwell
But then we couldn't buy dlc

CouchChiller
CouchChiller

@iluvmen
All they had to do was look at Diablo 3's Rifts.

StrangeWizard
StrangeWizard

@CouchChiller
To be fair, they kind of heavily insinuated that this was going to be the case.

Nude_Bikergirl
Nude_Bikergirl

@Bidwell
vanguard didn't have us just aim the almighty's beam away from the sun and let it devour mercury before we blew it up
If the Vanguard were smart, they'd suck up Mercury and post it at the edge of the solar sytem. Blow up any fuckers that dare come close to the solar system

Spamalot
Spamalot

@5mileys
Economy based unlocks are the worst. Just look at pubg and CSgo

Nojokur
Nojokur

Hand Cannons
140rpm
kills in 3 crit 1 body

150rpm
kills in 3 crit 1 body

180rpm
kills in 4 crit or 3 crit 2 body

Pulse rifles
320rpm
not worth using

360rpm
4 burst to kill

450rpm
4 burst to kill

540rpm
4 burst to kill

Why the fuck would they do this?

Dreamworx
Dreamworx

@Spamalot
Just look at pubg and CSgo

I've played neither.

King_Martha
King_Martha

@Dreamworx
i didn't say you had to play them, just look at them

use your reading comprehension please.

Methshot
Methshot

Remind me again... how many Osiris books have YOU written?

Techpill
Techpill

Fuck it felt good refunding this shit, looks like xbone got the ultimate exclusive this time.

AwesomeTucker
AwesomeTucker

@Methnerd
He's still at it.
Is reddit down or something?

massdebater
massdebater

@Methshot
Right here they are, Vance. Take a look at them will you? :^)

Techpill
Techpill

So if there are infinite timelines, there exists a timeline where Vex make love not war.
In that timeline, how do you think Goblin Cock works? Is it built on to the normal Vex model and just hanging free? Is it telescopic and they go-go-gadget extendo dick when it's bag o' clock? Is it an attachment that they have to bolt in to place?
Is it a rigid piece of metal or some sort of ballooning sack to represent flaccid and erect states? Do they cum radiolaria? Are Hobs or Gobs bigger? How about Minotaurs? Is fucking a Harpy like fucking a dog? Do Vex have no cocks because they're always bottoms?
I have many questions.

RavySnake
RavySnake

@Techpill
There's one timeline where we all have Fallen gfs

cum2soon
cum2soon

@RavySnake
knowing my luck i have no gf across all possible timelines

King_Martha
King_Martha

@VisualMaster
Oh, yeah, meant to add that. Leave in a PvP mode where people can use their PvE equipment, just don't balance around it.

Poker_Star
Poker_Star

@cum2soon
You see, that's the catch. For you to have a gf in a possible timeline, you having a gf has to be possible.

Carnalpleasure
Carnalpleasure

@iluvmen
Rooms are assembled randomly and keep chaining for as long as you are willing to keep going
tfw thought this is what I was buying

King_Martha
King_Martha

If Bungie and or Activision's stopped with the retarded marketing would they have dodged the bullet they shot at themselves? All they had to do was stop calling DLCs expansions. And not call it the Infinite Forest. Could've been the Simulated Forest or some shit. Too much expectation is their problem. That's not to say CoO wasn't largely garbage.

Techpill
Techpill

@Techpill
So if there are infinite timelines, there exists a timeline where Vex make love not war.
This isn't a given depending on whether it's a countable or uncountable amount of infinite timelines.

Sharpcharm
Sharpcharm

@Carnalpleasure
It really felt like this is what you were getting when you first ran through it, too.

It set up mechanics. Find the door, open the door, continue. Sometimes the door is locked, go kill the big bad first. It really felt like they were setting up an infinite dungeon run.
Just fucking add a PE chest every 10 rooms, make it get increasingly more difficult, and make dying kick you back out to Mercury. It cannot be that fucking hard.

happy_sad
happy_sad

@Techpill
So if there are infinite timelines, there exists a timeline where Vex make love not war.
They're infinite timelines made by Vex. Shit changes between timelines but Vex are a constant. There's no Vex other than the Vex we know.

TechHater
TechHater

@Carnalpleasure
Would be pretty cool to see a roguelike kind of dungeon with the infinite forest. You join a 3 man fireteam, rooms get progressively harder and ammo gets scarcer. the further you go the better the rewards. Why wasn't this implemented? we could have seen the concept fully realized.

Stark_Naked
Stark_Naked

Absolute noob here, do high rpm weapons deal less damage? I have an auto rifle with 85 damage at 400 rpm and another 95 damage weapon with 750 rpm but 95 damage one deals less damage specially on headshots. Am i missing something here?

Gigastrength
Gigastrength

Walls are bad.

VisualMaster
VisualMaster

@Stark_Naked
level != damage

Nojokur
Nojokur

@King_Martha
Bungie really needs to tone it down when they describe Vex shit.
"The Pyramidion is the CENTER OF THE VEX REALITY ENGINE, and it can LEAD TO ANY NUMBER OF PLANETS OR POSSIBILITIES in an EVER SHIFTING LABYRINTH OF PORTALS AND GATES"
It's like 10 rooms and some lazers

@happy_sad
Descendant and Precursor Vex show that there can be different Vex subtypes from different timelines. Just because the Vex in the fucking timeline decided to ratchet dicks onto themselves doesn't make them no longer the Vex. They could be exploring a plan to subjugate all the universe in a more diplomatic way in that timeline, and have turned themselves to fuckbots to better serve that purpose.

w8t4u
w8t4u

@Carnalpleasure
rooms are procedurally generated
bungie said this as a matter of fact on how the VEX do it
rooms arent procedurally generated at fucking all

yeh they got me too

Gigastrength
Gigastrength

I thought the heroic adventures were a daily thing? I did one two days ago but I cannot do another one cause it says they're already active?

w8t4u
w8t4u

@Stark_Naked
Attack is not damage. Attack is the gear's level.
Impact, the stat, determines per shot damage. Though generally, yes, higher RPM weapons will hit for less.

PurpleCharger
PurpleCharger

why is everyone surprised that old content was locked behind the new DLC? Did NOBODY play destiny 1?

Inmate
Inmate

@CouchChiller
I don't understand how they've managed to make such a shitty loot game when they could probably contact Blizzard for advice since they are all under Activision. I'm pretty sure they even did with the development of Destiny 1. With the way the writing and characterization is going even Memelands is going to beat this game out in sheer worthwhile content worth running for.

StonedTime
StonedTime

@King_Martha
:noose:

askme
askme

should i change the arms?

likme
likme

@King_Martha
At this point, it's more Bungie than Activision. Despite what fanboys here will say, the reasons why D2 sucks are all Bungie choices. Shit like 4v4 and K/E/H are Smith/Kikeworthy's ideas. The shit story is because of whoever the fuck it wass and the lack of social features is ME Chung. All that dumb shit is neo-Bungie. CoO is a bandage over D2's flaws like TDB and HoW were over D1. Only D1 was actually fun, so people ate that shit up.

Considering the refund fiasco and lack of money D2 is making, I wouldn't be surpriised to see Activision going after Bungie in a few years time because they didn't deliver on a huge investment. Of course, shit eaters here will be like "BUNGIE A GOOD BOY, HE DINDU NUFFIN, HE JUST WANTED MONEY TO MAKE A GOOD GAME".

Burnblaze
Burnblaze

@PurpleCharger
To be fair, the raid lockout is some bullshit. We didn't lose access to VoG when TDB dropped.
Other than that, though, yeah. This was wholly expected.

ZeroReborn
ZeroReborn

@askme
Change the fucking chestpiece. Why would you EVER use the Lost Pacific chest on a hunter? It's fucking awful.
Arms are fine, I think.

Stark_Naked
Stark_Naked

@PurpleCharger
D2 was clearly phoned in. You have first time PC players and maybe even first time Gen 8 console players as well as dedicated D1 fans. They just put out this shit minimal effort and people will buy it.

If Anthem is better than this, my god, how the times will have changed. But that's a year away and D2 still has opportunities to unfuck itself.

Harmless_Venom
Harmless_Venom

@askme
change grafix card

SomethingNew
SomethingNew

@PurpleCharger
why is everyone surprised that old content was locked behind the new DLC? Did NOBODY play destiny 1?
They only locked out Omnigul's strike in TDB. You could still play vanilla nightfalls. You could still play VoG too. When they rotated out, you were fine without DLC.

Burnblaze
Burnblaze

Public Events
Reduced the XP rewards of some public events to bring them more in line with other activities
Reduced Glimmer earned from some public events to better balance them with their counterparts
Reduced the rate of Rare rewards to bring them more in line with other activities

I see what you did there Bungie.

PurpleCharger
PurpleCharger

@Nojokur
Descendant and Precursor Vex show that there can be different Vex subtypes from different timelines.
They're not different timelines. Precursors are the original vex, descendants are the future vex, they're the same vex, this was explained three years ago, come on dude.

Need_TLC
Need_TLC

@ZeroReborn
cuz i think it looks cool

JunkTop
JunkTop

@PurpleCharger
And the Vex with dicks are also the same Vex, just with dicks. The point was that the Vex can be marginally different depending on circumstance.
At one point in their lifespan, they had weird wire frame heads. In the future, they'll think circles are super cool. And in the past, they had their rebellious teen phase where they tried to bang the universe into submission.

New_Cliche
New_Cliche

Bungie really fucked up on mercury, past mercury is like four times the size of patrol area, they should have included all three versions of Mercury into patrol area with infinite forest being a quick area change between them. (Image not related, its just a skybox)
@JunkTop
/fanfiction.net/

Skullbone
Skullbone

Can someone show the hunter raid ornaments?

Flameblow
Flameblow

Literally 80% of the game are simple issues that could be fixed within 2 weeks.

no global/region chat
guns aren't fucking randomized
no sparrows on second character
no spawns all over the EDZ on second character
little to no specialization on subclass paths

Can their management neck themselves already? It's painful to see a game shoot itself in the foot so many times because of shitty management. Hi-Rez already broke my heart enough, I don't think it can handle any more.

DeathDog
DeathDog

I absolutely love how outraged leddit is about Destiny.

Harmless_Venom
Harmless_Venom

@JunkTop
You're asking of there's a timeline where vex chose love.
The answer is no. There are no different vex. There are only the vex that we know. They exist as we know them in all the timelines they created. This isn't rocket science stop being a fucking retard.

CodeBuns
CodeBuns

@Flameblow
no sparrows on second character
???

PackManBrainlure
PackManBrainlure

@Skullbone
You asked for it.
http://www.pcgamer.com/destiny-2s-eater-of-worlds-raid-lair-goes-live-on-friday-see-the-new-armor-now/

JunkTop
JunkTop

@PackManBrainlure
Yea ok, not worth doing

Spamalot
Spamalot

@PackManBrainlure
They show the bond
They show the mark
They don't show the cloak
cmon

askme
askme

@DeathDog
man, If even the hugbox that is Reddit says your game is shit, you are doing something wrong on so many levels.

Nude_Bikergirl
Nude_Bikergirl

@CodeBuns
Why the hell can't you share the same sparrow between multiple characters? I would've thought it would be tied to the same account.

Ignoramus
Ignoramus

@PackManBrainlure
Isn't there supposed to be new weapon and armor for the raid lair and not just ornaments for the old stuff?

Need_TLC
Need_TLC

@Nude_Bikergirl
In D1 you had a fucking kiosk you could pull unlimited numbers of ships and sparrows you owned from.
Bungol are going to re-add these features down the line in D2 and everyone will lap it up

DeathDog
DeathDog

Hi all, need help with warlocks armor i need helm chest and boots with 5 resilence and 8 restoration, any recommends?

viagrandad
viagrandad

@Spamalot
Go see Benedict you dumb fuck

haveahappyday
haveahappyday

@DeathDog
arent you?

AwesomeTucker
AwesomeTucker

@PackManBrainlure
Titan get bulky cabal armor
Why wasn't this done from the get go? The base raid armor was shit

@Ignoramus
New armor and weapons
Having checked the database, nothing new shows in regards to the raid. Bungo lied again

BinaryMan
BinaryMan

@MPmaster
Should I avoid playing crucible until the new trace rifle is nerfed or is it not as big a deal as people make it out to be?

Skullbone
Skullbone

Wonder if the Prestige raid armor will retain aura with ornaments attached

Firespawn
Firespawn

@Nude_Bikergirl
dont you want to spend more money trying to get 3 exotic instant summon sparrows?

RavySnake
RavySnake

@DeathDog
@askme
They're always outraged there apparently. We get redditfags like you two spamming the same shit ITT every 48 hours. This shit literally goes back to 2015, if not before.

even reddit and bungie forums are on fire, they really fucked up this time

https://boards.fireden.net/vg/search/text/bungie%20reddit/

Dreamworx
Dreamworx

@AwesomeTucker
the new raid gear is hidden in the database, bungie has been doing this since ttk in order to prevent people from seeing what it is until the raid itself

Emberfire
Emberfire

@RavySnake
fuck off cunt you are reddit here

Stupidasole
Stupidasole

So when and how can we redeem calus tokens without having completed the whole raid? There was talk about it before CoO

Firespawn
Firespawn

@Dreamworx
Don't know why they wouldn't do it for all the new stuff like the faction rally, iron banner, etc... But we are gonna get new stuff with the raid lair then? There no way I can drag my shitter raid group through the prestige Raid.

Checking database for new trials weapons
200 rpm explosive round scout rifle
Here we go again

TreeEater
TreeEater

@Emberfire
I'm not the one spamming every day about what you've just read on reddit. Nobody here should give a fuck what they think, and yet, every fucking day. Every fucking thread, there's a bunch of you that ALWAYS talk about the latest thing that has "pissed off reddit" and pretend you don't go there.

viagrandad
viagrandad

@PackManBrainlure
I wonder what the actual lair armor looks like, that's just the current raid armor ornamentation.

Fried_Sushi
Fried_Sushi

@haveahappyday
D2 is in a bad state but I just appreciate how lax /dg/ is. I frequent several other generals and they are always fast moving. Even /v/ threads about Destiny can fill quick. It's just a lack of people here. While everywhere else goes total meltdown we can just be here.

SomethingNew
SomethingNew

@PackManBrainlure
Looks fucking garbage. Glad I didn't buy this ''''''''''''''DLC'''''''''''''''''. Just lol @ the cucks ITT that did.

AwesomeTucker
AwesomeTucker

@Fried_Sushi
most people fucked off to discords. which is good since most of them were cancerous anyways

Garbage Can Lid
Garbage Can Lid

tfw no better devils since launch on PC
see all the posts about how horrible it is to play against someone who isn't braindead using the new trace rifle
have a token running so decide to try crucible for the milestone because why not
not a single Prometheus-fuck-you.laser to be seen
got 2 Better Devils and 3 Exotic engrams

Was a good day lads

Bidwell
Bidwell

Just finished the dlc campaign, and I'm just thankful I was already at 305 before the start of it, cause of that new softcap. Also really digging that quest reward auto rifle, it has that scope I really love, and it hits like a truck.

Burnblaze
Burnblaze

this whole lootbox/DLC outrage seems like manufactured controversy from people who never played the first game or understand that this game isn't an MMO and has no obligations to MMO standards.

Carnalpleasure
Carnalpleasure

@Garbage Can Lid
The crucru gives massive ammounts of loot now, and the overall the PVE rewards were nerfed to the ground, its in-fucking-sane the ammount of PVP pandering the absolute retards of the dev team are doing

SniperGod
SniperGod

turn in legendary engram
get a grenade launcher or a side arm
disappointment intensifies

StrangeWizard
StrangeWizard

@Burnblaze
(you)
this shit somehow managed to be worse than dark bellow.

LuckyDusty
LuckyDusty

@Burnblaze
t. Luke Smith
Fuck off, retard.

CouchChiller
CouchChiller

@AwesomeTucker
forming Veeky Forums discords
Gross

whereismyname
whereismyname

@StrangeWizard
You don't need to do the (you) when you're already replying like an asshurt fag. Please, consider learning how something works before posting.

Lunatick
Lunatick

@Bidwell
i like the scope too

Playboyize
Playboyize

@Carnalpleasure
Yeah pvp rewards are fucking great now, so it's not such a pain in the ass honestly

Heroic Strikes seem to give out plenty of rewards as well and public events while nerfed, are done so fast that it's negligible imo

Still, they're fucking imbeciles for doubling the exp needed for bright engrams, or illuminated ones now I guess

Harmless_Venom
Harmless_Venom

@Burnblaze
Or it could be that more people are getting tired of the games as a service movement the industry is trying to push.

Playboyize
Playboyize

@Burnblaze
A part of me does think Bungie bit off more than they can chew by opening to the PC market who have historically known what honest to god MMOs, loot RPGs, and expansions are. The problem with Destiny is it's so middling in all those aspects. Like a retard of all; master of none. They got to realize you can't please everyone. Better to stick to your guns than make such a homogeneous experience.

Nude_Bikergirl
Nude_Bikergirl

hmmm

eGremlin
eGremlin

@Nude_Bikergirl
REEEEEEEEEEE

Spazyfool
Spazyfool

@Burnblaze
fuck off you jew

this amount of jew shit is worse than most freenium mobile games

Soft_member
Soft_member

@Nude_Bikergirl
F

Fried_Sushi
Fried_Sushi

@Playboyize
The problem is that console players never complained about a lack of content and kept buying DLC like good goys. Because they never complained, the game obviouly got gutted over time as some kind of experiment to see how little content people needed. Notice how only the PC crowd refuse to buy CoO because the base game isn't good enough to warrant more investment. PC players have principles and character to stand for what we believe in. We have higher standards and Bungie can't pull the wool over our eyes.

Meanwhile, PS4 and Xbox players are buying it in droves and actually defending the DLC.

SomethingNew
SomethingNew

@Nude_Bikergirl
it rhymes
literal poetry

TreeEater
TreeEater

@Fried_Sushi
That is bullshit.
Also, PS4/Xbone players are the ones who are actually getting this shit refunded.

BlogWobbles
BlogWobbles

@Fried_Sushi
>>>>>>>>>>

Emberburn
Emberburn

@TreeEater
Also, PS4/Xbone players are the ones who are actually getting this shit refunded.
Just Xbone. PS don't refund as readily or easily

TalkBomber
TalkBomber

@Fried_Sushi
This. Us PC players are smart. We have seen stuff like this before and we know not to fall for such pitiful business practices.

TechHater
TechHater

Hello! Glad to see everyone's enjoying the new DLC. What would you guys like to see most for your next adventure in the Destiny 2 world?

MPmaster
MPmaster

tfw cant get a refund because i bought the game with wow gold
i dont even play wow anymore but i still feel robbed

viagrandad
viagrandad

@Emberburn
Based Phil has our backs once again

lostmypassword
lostmypassword

Heroic Adventure
That wasn't that bad. What were you pussies bitching about?

MPmaster
MPmaster

@Nude_Bikergirl
The warlock cock sucking in this is absurd

@Soft_member
FFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFF
You didn't deserve this Saint-14

cum2soon
cum2soon

@lostmypassword
The state of this waste tier game, for one

PurpleCharger
PurpleCharger

Haha we already got the money you fagolas, no ammount of crying nor bitching will do shit, PVP is the future now, we are aiming for that sweet sweet Twitch and E-sports audience.

the new raid is a PVP match but instead of 4 players its 6vs6 btw :^)

CodeBuns
CodeBuns

@Emberburn
You can still get it refunded if you're not an autistic anti-social creep.

RumChicken
RumChicken

@PurpleCharger
not a campaign mission
It's probably an improvement

viagrandad
viagrandad

@CodeBuns
no proofs

5mileys
5mileys

@Emberburn
Sony is reasonable if you are

Fried_Sushi
Fried_Sushi

@viagrandad
Based

RavySnake
RavySnake

@RumChicken
Forgot to add, its a PVP match with 300% more of health and ONLY meele attacks, no nades, no supers, no weapons, just melee attacks, this we believe will be the superior PVP experience all the players from Destiny were asking about.

Evil_kitten
Evil_kitten

@Spazyfool
lol no you have never played a gatcha in your life

Stupidasole
Stupidasole

@Fried_Sushi
Not based

BlogWobbles
BlogWobbles

@viagrandad
There was someone in the previous thread. Not my fault you're a casual /dg/er.

ZeroReborn
ZeroReborn

@Stupidasole
Unbased.

Garbage Can Lid
Garbage Can Lid

@Stupidasole
ouch

cum2soon
cum2soon

@ZeroReborn
not talking to the supervisor

Also, class action lawsuit when?

5mileys
5mileys

Can someone tell me why there is an entire DLC map playlist when there was only 1 DLC map added

Emberfire
Emberfire

@5mileys
because its more than just one map you faggot

Gigastrength
Gigastrength

@BlogWobbles
One person claims to have gotten a refund and posted no proof or what he said when someone else asked. Random claims are not proof at all. Meanwhile Microsoft screenshots out the ass and people getting refunds in the last thread.

Well I've tried like 8 times with Sony and they say no every time. Anyone else got one through them? Last fucking time I buy digitally from them.
Not for sony, or blizzard, i tried. 14 day purchase time limit, already played it, you already have achievements/trophies blah blah. Microsoft is handing out refunds like handjobs at a highschool football game though so good luck xbox fags.
How did you get it to work? I chatted with 2 reps and called it. They said it was past the purchase time frame and that due to policy they couldn't refund it. Tell me what you did i want my $60 back

FastChef
FastChef

DESTINY 2 IS UNDER INVESTIGATION
Wew lad. Bungle is about to really regret leaving Papa Microsoft. Phil gonna put them niggas on blast.

JunkTop
JunkTop

@FastChef
fuckin a

Garbage Can Lid
Garbage Can Lid

@FastChef
BASED

likme
likme

@FastChef
Based Microsoft

Playboyize
Playboyize

So what the fuck is going on and why is everyone suddenly refunding?

haveahappyday
haveahappyday

@FastChef
based microsoft gonna rip the jews a new one

DeathDog
DeathDog

@Playboyize
elements of the base game taken away and locked behind the dlc paywall

farquit
farquit

@Playboyize
CoO locks people out of vanilla achievements. It's against Microsoft policy and people are getting digital refunds because it breaks ToS.

PS/PC players currently shit out of luck.

TurtleCat
TurtleCat

@Playboyize
and why is everyone suddenly refunding?

w8t4u
w8t4u

@FastChef
OH SHIT

FastChef
FastChef

@Playboyize
CoO is a massive disappointment, the DLC locks people out of Vanilla content, everyone is mad because the Eververse has more stuff than actual new weapons and armor, people are asking for refunds now because too much shit.

CodeBuns
CodeBuns

@farquit
PC players played the game for like one month and now have to buy an expansion
J U S T
U
S
T

Snarelure
Snarelure

People bitching about the Eververse is silly because it's kind of DLC unrelated. They said they were changing the shit up for season 2 and they did. Why wouldn't the Eververse always be available? How else will they make money?

Real question is can you use the new weapons/exotics without the DLC?

DeathDog
DeathDog

@DeathDog
@farquit
so your master plan to combat the inability of players without the dlc to get some meaningless points is to make it so you can't either
how fucking stupid are you people
there's many actual reasons to refund, but THIS is the reason you chose?

kizzmybutt
kizzmybutt

@DeathDog
is to make it so you can't either
So $60 USD is worth less than meaningless points by your own admission
You're getting awfully defensive of a company that likes to destroy your little butt every few months

Deadlyinx
Deadlyinx

@DeathDog
Heck off, Cozmo

Techpill
Techpill

@DeathDog
Heck off, Cozmo

Dreamworx
Dreamworx

@farquit
what achievements? max level or something?

Evil_kitten
Evil_kitten

hey guys from now on we're going to improve developer to player communication
oh btw let's just not tell you about how you'll be locked out of content unless you purchase the DLC

I really want to see Bungie crash and burn.

Spamalot
Spamalot

@Dreamworx
Completing a Prestige raid or NF. CoO locks you out from playing those.

iluvmen
iluvmen

@Evil_kitten
i want the entire art/sound design team to go work for better studios

Techpill
Techpill

@DeathDog
It works. People got a $60 USD game, played it for 3 months and got a full refund. You wouldn't be able to refund most games after a few days/weeks at the best of the times.

@Dreamworx
Prestige achievements.

Fried_Sushi
Fried_Sushi

BUNGIE FUCKING SAVED DESTINY 2, BROS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

eGremlin
eGremlin

I cannot wait for DLC3/expansion because it's going to be a repeat of TTK where it's high dollar and you can buy emotes for $20.

Supergrass
Supergrass

full auto scout rifles have persistent spread making them unusable in full auto

Just why the fuck did they change shit that didn't need to be changed?
The Raid SR is shit I just wanted another Vision of Confluence fucking hell

SniperGod
SniperGod

@Fried_Sushi
if by 'saved' you mean 'killed it so bad they'll never get the chance to release destiny 3 and fuck us over again' then yes, they saved destiny

takes2long
takes2long

They haven't found giant mode yet

Crazy_Nice
Crazy_Nice

@Snarelure
Real question is can you use the new weapons/exotics without the DLC?
Nope.

takes2long
takes2long

@takes2long
perspective

do a webm of you walking around and I'll believe you

Booteefool
Booteefool

is the raw dps of prometheus good? coldheart tier? and how good it it for skulls?

VisualMaster
VisualMaster

What kind of damage does coldheart deal?

Solar, void or arc?

Guessing arc here

RavySnake
RavySnake

@VisualMaster
it shoots blue

AwesomeTucker
AwesomeTucker

@VisualMaster
Arc, yes.

haveahappyday
haveahappyday

@Booteefool
It's pretty much designed to rape adds and your fellow guardians :^)

Emberburn
Emberburn

@VisualMaster
Ice

Spazyfool
Spazyfool

So what are the odds Bungie does something good as a result of this prestige achievements/refund fiasco?

Like more/better content as opposed to "we scaled the raid back down for people without the expansion"

Techpill
Techpill

@Booteefool
Yes. Just look up a video.
Worse at single target deeps, better for trash mobs.

Garbage Can Lid
Garbage Can Lid

@DeathDog
What? he asked a question and I answered. Are you okay man?

takes2long
takes2long

I just got kicked and can't log back in.
Same for my fireteam- did you break destiny for xbox user?
@FastChef

WebTool
WebTool

https://www.theverge.com/2017/12/7/16743470/destiny-2-curse-of-osiris-expansion-dlc-review-bungie
unrealistic expectations

wut

Snarelure
Snarelure

@takes2long
Same here famalama. Is this the end?

eGremlin
eGremlin

@VisualMaster
blueberry kool aid.

StrangeWizard
StrangeWizard

can't sign in on xbox
Uh, lads?

w8t4u
w8t4u

@takes2long
I got kicked but I'm back in

Burnblaze
Burnblaze

tfw top 10k player in clash right now
I have no idea how this happened. I'm not even good at fps game

SniperWish
SniperWish

@StrangeWizard
Same here, don't worry u aint banned

JunkTop
JunkTop

@takes2long
@StrangeWizard
Papa Microsoft taking charge
D2 getting shut down and pulled

Nude_Bikergirl
Nude_Bikergirl

@Spazyfool
Next to zero.
Easiest thing they could do to curry instant favor would be to add simulated VoG in.
Hell, just simulate all the old Raids with new enemy types thrown in. King's Fall and WotM would be hard as balls though.
Golgoroth without WoLs
Yuck.
Fuck man, just gimme back a proper bubble you cunts.

cum2soon
cum2soon

@JunkTop
Fuck yes

LuckyDusty
LuckyDusty

@Burnblaze
elo reset for season 2

eGremlin
eGremlin

@Burnblaze
there's only 11k people playing the game

girlDog
girlDog

@LuckyDusty
yeah, but still. Top 10k out of 500k playing is top 2%. That is ridiculously good by my standards.

cum2soon
cum2soon

@JunkTop
But for real, CoO violates MSs ToS. What does this mean in terms of action against Bungie? Do they get sued? Does their DLC get pulled and xbros get refunded?

BlogWobbles
BlogWobbles

@eGremlin
there's only 11k people playing the game
Can't be, I'm ranked #350k in control, which is the same game mode so it has to have similar number of players. And destinytracker says 550k people were playing pvp just yesterday, so it's a reasonable base assumption of total amount of players (should be even higher for people only playing on the weekends or every other day)

Emberfire
Emberfire

@Burnblaze
Unless you post what you're "top 10k" in, it doesn't matter.

King_Martha
King_Martha

@BlogWobbles
I was just memeing, user, but you should know that DT alters their numbers at bungle's request.

farquit
farquit

@cum2soon
How?

Playboyize
Playboyize

@girlDog
All I did was explain how it happened. Glad youre hype though, keep at it if youre having fun

CodeBuns
CodeBuns

can't play my game now
Fuck right off.

Poker_Star
Poker_Star

@girlDog
Congrats. I was in top 1% of D1 players in most stats and playlists back in the spring for around a month with a Defender.
Keep it up, man. Just keep playing defensively and continue using Prometheus Lens as much as you can this week before it's needed to pad your stats.

Skullbone
Skullbone

@farquit
DLC content can not remove past achievements or render them unobtainable. CoO does the latter.

Lunatick
Lunatick

@farquit
Vanilla game achievement is now locked behind the DLC

Burnblaze
Burnblaze

@Skullbone
@Lunatick
Which achievements did it fuck up?

RavySnake
RavySnake

@cum2soon
Bungie violated a contract between them and Microsoft
Either Bungie fixes it or Microsoft can pursue legal action for violating said contract and obviously any xbone player is basically a witness/testimony to bungie's fuck up.

Bungie could barely blackmail there own people out of their jobs and they still lost the court cases to one of them. They won't win against Microsoft

WebTool
WebTool

*BRAAAAAAAAAAAAAAP*

RumChicken
RumChicken

Momentum

Harmless_Venom
Harmless_Venom

/r/ing Absolute State of D2 edit

haveahappyday
haveahappyday

@CodeBuns
Sounds like a good thing.

massdebater
massdebater

@Burnblaze
The Prestige.

hairygrape
hairygrape

@RavySnake
Bungie could barely blackmail there own people out of their jobs
Hahah

PackManBrainlure
PackManBrainlure

pc clan purge is really finally happening
Based Hitch

Spazyfool
Spazyfool

Titans

Deadlyinx
Deadlyinx

@Burnblaze
Prestige raid and NF aren't playable without the DLC. If you can't play either of these, you can't get the achievement for finishing them.

SomethingNew
SomethingNew

@WebTool
Fartfags get the rope too

Supergrass
Supergrass

Anyone noticed more dialogue in destiny. Like in the vanilla parts of the game.

massdebater
massdebater

@Spazyfool
striker
current week

lostmypassword
lostmypassword

@hairygrape
They still have to pay Marty for his work for the rest of the ten year contract
It's actually sad how bad that went

Evilember
Evilember

@lostmypassword
the modifiers were worse earlier

eGremlin
eGremlin

@TechHater
Has there been an up-to-date comparison of this yet?
Like that old webm with all the hp recovering at once?

BlogWobbles
BlogWobbles

@lostmypassword
Marty deserves all the money in the world.
Fuck Bungie.

Supergrass
Supergrass

poorfags complain so hard i can't play the game now
Nice going, fuckos.

Flameblow
Flameblow

@BlogWobbles
Fuckin' a man. This right goddamn here.

BunnyJinx
BunnyJinx

@Emberfire
clash, it's in the post

GoogleCat
GoogleCat

@PackManBrainlure
based Hitchler

Poker_Star
Poker_Star

@Poker_Star
keep playing defensively and continue using Prometheus Lens
I'm the most retarded greedy fuck there is
I don't have prometheus lens

In all seriousness, 50% of my kills are sword kills which might explain why I'm doing well in a first person shooter lel

Flameblow
Flameblow

@lostmypassword
Bungie is financing Marty's new project
B A S E D
A
S
E
D

Carnalpleasure
Carnalpleasure

@Flameblow
Have you listened to Echoes of the First Dreamer? It's reallygood.

PackManBrainlure
PackManBrainlure

@BlogWobbles
@Flameblow
@Flameblow
Microsoft/Phil Spencer and Marty team up to take down Bungie

I wanna see this so bad. That's what you get for leaving Microsoft to go suck Sony's/Activision cock

Firespawn
Firespawn

What the absolute fuck is the state of PvP now. Laser beams flying fucking everywhere.

VisualMaster
VisualMaster

@WebTool
https://www.theverge.com/2017/12/7/16743470/destiny-2-curse-of-osiris-expansion-dlc-review-bungie

This guy completely missed the fact that most of the "improvements" he's bragging about were part of the PATCH not the EXPANSION.

Methshot
Methshot

@Firespawn
Is it bad that I'm enjoying this more than what PvP has been over the last 3 months? At least it's ironically funny in a way

Emberfire
Emberfire

The next patch will literally fix everything you guys.

Stupidasole
Stupidasole

microsoft sue bungie for breaking the t&c
they can't pay up
microsoft buy out bungie
bungie now work for microsoft
destiny becomes an xbox exclusive franchise
Who here /best timeline/?

Supergrass
Supergrass

@Harmless_Venom
working on a video. it'll be memey

Techpill
Techpill

Can't see MS dragging Bungie to court right away. They'll get a mean and pressing mail to fix that shit first and then bungie will relocate the trigger for the achievement I'd wager.

LuckyDusty
LuckyDusty

@VisualMaster
Not to mention The 'improvements' were there all along and just had to be activated after we payed the enough.

girlDog
girlDog

@Stupidasole
That would be terrible, I'd much rather have Bungie just die so their audiovisual talent could disperse through the industry

lostmypassword
lostmypassword

@Stupidasole
destiny becomes an xbox exclusive franchise
lololol best timeline is dying on a shit console? I guess.

Burnblaze
Burnblaze

@VisualMaster
Pretty sure Bungle paid for that review

@PackManBrainlure
lmao. This would be great.

eGremlin
eGremlin

@Firespawn
You said you wanted lower TTK

BunnyJinx
BunnyJinx

@PackManBrainlure
Hello XNigger

Ignoramus
Ignoramus

@Supergrass
it'll be memey
Not gonna watch it then.

Nude_Bikergirl
Nude_Bikergirl

@VisualMaster
But you basically need the expansion to even play the game right now.

@Stupidasole
You mean Xbox/Windows10 exclusive.

massdebater
massdebater

@Stupidasole
holy shit I wish.

Skullbone
Skullbone

@Firespawn
You know what the crazy thing is? PC players aren't used to this level of incompetence from developers. "Hotfixes" are the name of the game for PC online communities. Any right-minded dev would either issue an immediate hotfix or disable a weapon that's literally breaking the entire online PvP environment.

Noooo, not Bungie. All they do is tweet "oops, didn't mean to" and it'll probably be next week's patch before this thing is corrected.

Emberfire
Emberfire

@Nude_Bikergirl
You mean Xbox/Windows10 exclusive.
As long as Sony doesn't get shit it's all good

girlDog
girlDog

@PackManBrainlure
I like the sound of it. A clan for spergs who regularly play endgame shit together and a couple of extensions for those who don't.

Need_TLC
Need_TLC

CoO is overall better than The Dark Below
redditors acting like it's the worst thing theyve ever seen

Skullbone
Skullbone

@Skullbone
pc players aren't used to this level of incompetence from developers
You can't be serious, how about the tons of broken releases on PC? Lol you are delusional.

New_Cliche
New_Cliche

@Stupidasole
bleh, just sold my xbox too
not like there was anything else worth playing or people worth playing with.

Need_TLC
Need_TLC

@VisualMaster
@Burnblaze

They must've paid for that review. I refuse to believe game reviewing has sunk to that level.

Burnblaze
Burnblaze

@Need_TLC
knowing what reddit think

Evilember
Evilember

@Need_TLC
better than a complete waste of money that nobody liked
C o n g r a t s

TurtleCat
TurtleCat

Sloane

Stupidasole
Stupidasole

@Skullbone
PC players aren't used to this level of incompetence from developers.

LOL

Harmless_Venom
Harmless_Venom

@Need_TLC
The Dark Below contained 3 new strikes, a brand new raid and 3 crucible maps. It is 1000x better than Curse of Osirass.

Techpill
Techpill

Bungie will throw some half-assed hotfix to bring the prestige level down for people without the DLC just to avoid getting sued

New_Cliche
New_Cliche

@Burnblaze
It's impossible to not know what reddit thinks since this entire general is now populated by them

GoogleCat
GoogleCat

@Skullbone
releases
I'm not talking about new PC games being broken at launch. I'm talking about PvP-oriented games getting hotfixes for game-breaking bugs. If CSGO had a weapon drop that broke the competitiveness of the game they'd patch that up REAL quick. Same goes for most everything else out there. Devs who care about their PvP the way Bungo """""supposedly"""" does would've already had this fixed by now.

Nude_Bikergirl
Nude_Bikergirl

@Techpill
youre telling me it's been 48 hours and they haven't fixed this shit yet? What the actual fuck are they thinking? do they only work on monday and tuesday or some shit?

Inmate
Inmate

@Evilember
Week one TDB was fun as fuck. The Abyss was hectic, Omnigul was a bitch, Eris was a waifu and we got memes like solo Crota which anyone could do.

@New_Cliche
now
Haven't been able to avoid them posting here since the beta.

Spazyfool
Spazyfool

@Firespawn
...I tried to be fair and didn't bring out the lens until someone else used it first.

Raving_Cute
Raving_Cute

Has Bungie united the entire world against them?

massdebater
massdebater

I didn't expect the CoO solo content to be very significant, but not even having a raid is a bit annoying. Even the tiny shitty DLCs had raids in D1.

idontknow
idontknow

@Nude_Bikergirl
They probably won't do jack shit until Microsoft formally tells them they either fix it or they get their asses sued. Then they'll begrudgingly institute a company-wide "ok stop getting high, fucking around on the internet and actually work" policy for a couple days to fix it

RumChicken
RumChicken

@Deadlyinx
an entire company could go to shit over achievements
HOWLING

Stark_Naked
Stark_Naked

@WebTool
Fartfags are the best

Sir_Gallonhead
Sir_Gallonhead

@Spazyfool
PvP success rate boils down to how many lenses on each team.

RavySnake
RavySnake

@massdebater
The thing is, there is no raid so what content in the CoO was so important and vast that it took raid Dev time away? I just don't see it.

Crazy_Nice
Crazy_Nice

@Raving_Cute
having to wait for a refund
still owning D2
o i am laffin

Sir_Gallonhead
Sir_Gallonhead

@Stupidasole
People complained about companies under Microsoft and how it's not fair
Said companies leave Microsoft and they end up worse for it
If I recall correctly, didn't Microsoft bend over backwards to get Bungie on board from the get go and let them do what they wanted for the most part?

Emberburn
Emberburn

@Harmless_Venom
No, it contained 2 strikes. 1 of which was a PS4 exclusive. The only way it had 3 strikes is if you are including Crota's End.

VisualMaster
VisualMaster

@Stupidasole
Xbox/Windows10
GOOD GUY PHIL, SHOW THESE FUCKS WHO'S IN CHARGE.

Spazyfool
Spazyfool

@Sir_Gallonhead
Yes. the only thing MS wanted was 5 games in 10 years.

idontknow
idontknow

@Sir_Gallonhead
There were at least two on their side, and I think there was only me on mine. I didn't see anyone else on my side use one.
One poor bastard on the other team had a coldheart, though.

TurtleCat
TurtleCat

@Emberburn
Having a new raid is enough to make TDB far better than CoO

RumChicken
RumChicken

@Harmless_Venom
Crota's End was hardly a Brand New Raid, it was a glorified fourth strike. At the very least, the new Lair will be equivalent to CEs.
Also, TDB added two strikes. Don't lie.

Curse of Osiris added a new patrol and social area, a new public event type, did not limit what gear can be used at endgame levels or add extraneous currency to invalidate past currency, added 2 strikes in visually distinct new areas, and 3 new adventures and heroic permutations of them. CoO is better than TDB by miles and the only thing keeping you from agreeing with that are your rose tinted goggles.

Illusionz
Illusionz

@Sir_Gallonhead
Man Bungie didn't even want to make the Fall of Reach and other Halo books until one Microsoft employee started to push for it
They may have JUSTed this gen but they cranked out some solid games last gen

RavySnake
RavySnake

@Stupidasole
X I C
I
C

whereismyname
whereismyname

@TurtleCat
Did you suddenly forget the Eater of Worlds raid unlocking tomorrow?

Nojokur
Nojokur

THE ABSOLUTE STATE OF PVP

BlogWobbles
BlogWobbles

@whereismyname
a new room is hardly a raid

LuckyDusty
LuckyDusty

@whereismyname
*locks you out of raid unless you buy the DLC*

FastChef
FastChef

least favorite class always ends up as my highest level toon because I play them last with weapons from my other two

viagrandad
viagrandad

So which is the best titan subclass now? And exotic to go with it?

TreeEater
TreeEater

@RumChicken
Curse of Osiris added a new patrol and social area, a new public event type, did not limit what gear can be used at endgame levels or add extraneous currency to invalidate past currency, added 2 strikes in visually distinct new areas, and 3 new adventures and heroic permutations of them. CoO is better than TDB by miles and the only thing keeping you from agreeing with that are your rose tinted goggles.
t. Luke Smith

Shilliing your shittty doesn't work here. Xboxfags are refunding the game, and most PC players never even bought it or care about old DLCs because they have standards. Even PScucks are trying to get refunds now. Shows how good this "DLC" is.

PackManBrainlure
PackManBrainlure

@Stark_Naked
t. Gaylord

Garbage Can Lid
Garbage Can Lid

@RumChicken
Crota's End was hardly a Brand New Raid, it was a glorified fourth strike
Why do people keep saying this? CE for most new players took hours to beat. No strike ever took hours to beat. It's only till later with exploits and refined strategies that you were able to beat it in a decent time but it is a raid still.

Inmate
Inmate

game loves to feed me snipers
never used a sniper for more then 5 mins
GO FUCK YOURSELF BUNGIE

StonedTime
StonedTime

the state of Bungie
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PBeCY7rqvSs

Boy_vs_Girl
Boy_vs_Girl

@Harmless_Venom
3 new strikes
had 1 + a ps exclusive
:thinking:
crota was also trash, literally the reason raids only happen with major expansions is because crota was so hated
@RumChicken
user if you're going to point out ce is a glorified strike you should be fair and point out the 2 strikes in coo are LITERALLY story missions

Playboyize
Playboyize

@Inmate
Why? Snipers are awesome.
Best DPS if they have a weak point you can hit.

Supergrass
Supergrass

@TreeEater
most PC players never even bought it or care about old DLCs because they have standards
Ah yes, pc players have such standards, is that why PUBG is the most popular title on steam right now?

Soft_member
Soft_member

@Boy_vs_Girl
one of them is basically from the base game
Just what is wrong with Bungie

massdebater
massdebater

@viagrandad
I've heard Sunbreaker with Hallowfire Heart but I think it's still up to debate

TechHater
TechHater

@Inmate
game loves to feed me pulse rifles
never used a pulse rifle for more then 5 mins
GO FUCK YOURSELF BUNGIE

Boy_vs_Girl
Boy_vs_Girl

@Garbage Can Lid
No strike ever took hours to beat.
Well, day one Omnigul NF at level 30 took me 2 hours to beat. That fucking arc burn and 350 odd enemies, man. So many things that could instakill/cripple you.

Emberfire
Emberfire

@TreeEater
I never said it's good and i'm not shilling it. CoO sucks. It's just that TDB sucked even fucking more and you pretending it didn't is irrelevant to anything.

@Garbage Can Lid
It was a strike with wipe mechanics. Compare it in scale to VoG or KF. CE had one big room with the abyss, then loaded you into a new area that was a bridge, a hallway, and the final arena. VoG had 2 bosses. KF had 3, 4 if you count Deathsingers. CE had Crota and arguably Ir Yut.
CE is just so far below the other raids that it hardly deserves to be called such.

Sir_Gallonhead
Sir_Gallonhead

@Boy_vs_Girl
Ah the good old days of immediately backing out as soon as "Omnigul is the last of Crota's generals" played

viagrandad
viagrandad

Anyone up for leviathan raid? We've got 5 people ready, we're all pretty mature with mic, got a discord channel too, EU.

Emberfire
Emberfire

@Supergrass
Console kids using mummy and daddy's computers. Not difficultt.

eGremlin
eGremlin

@Emberfire
No strike has the complex mechanics CE does you dumb fuck.

girlDog
girlDog

@Playboyize
No, snipers are always shit. You can do as much damage if not more in less time with sins or any other cluster rocket launcher.
@TechHater
It feels like the game gives you shit you won't use on purpose.

Inmate
Inmate

@Playboyize
No they aren't.

Deadlyinx
Deadlyinx

@Emberfire
No true Scotsman

cum2soon
cum2soon

people seriously expecting anything but total disappointment from the raid lair

likme
likme

@eGremlin
Complex mechanics
Run from light to light
Stand on some plates and cycle people across a gap
Run through another hallway
Kill a couple Shriekers to open a door and then kill a wizard
Hit big dude with sword

Any one of these could easily be a strike mechanic my man.

New_Cliche
New_Cliche

@Garbage Can Lid
This
Crota's End was definitely hard going in blind/during your first couple times, but when all the exploits came out it became a cake walk that you could carry people through if need be

DeathDog
DeathDog

@likme
Any one of these could easily be a strike mechanic
You can say that about literally any other raid.

New_Cliche
New_Cliche

1.7 user score on Metacritic

Illusionz
Illusionz

@DeathDog
I don't think the Guantlet could be a strike encounter

happy_sad
happy_sad

@likme
Any one of these could easily be a strike mechanic my man.
I could say the same shit about the VOG mechanics then retard

Skullbone
Skullbone

@DeathDog
VoG and WotM, maybe, but certainly not KF.
The difference is that VoG and WotM are huge areas, much much larger than any Strike.
CE, meanwhile, is a single large room, and then a bridge, a hallway, and the end.

Methnerd
Methnerd

I love how the point of defense for Luke Smith cockriders is that the DLC is (arguably) better than Dark Below

RavySnake
RavySnake

I always thought Bungie leaving their partnership with M$ was a mistake. They could've easily continued making Halo with the Microsoft Game Studios, and outsourcing all PvP maps to Certain Affinity. All the while expanding their studio, and doing some big ass side project while still reeling in the Microbux.

When I learned they threw in with Activision I was really bummed. But, I don't blame Activision for D1's shortcomings. It's all on Bungie for resting on their laurels. I'm willing to blame Activision some for D2's monetization model with the stuff we know about the shareholder's conference and Bungie being forced to renegotiate. That said, Bungie has really fucked up with their publicity and maintenance, which seems to continue to be entirely in their wheelhouse.

PurpleCharger
PurpleCharger

@happy_sad
Read
@Skullbone

VoG and WotM have light mechanics, but they're huge and long.
CE has light mechanics, and also is short as fuck.
Do you see the difference here, you fruit?

Dreamworx
Dreamworx

@likme
Hit big dude with sword

You really really boiled that down. Only one player even uses the sword.

Gigastrength
Gigastrength

@Harmless_Venom
They need to hurry up and put out the second one because their forum is going nuclear.

SniperGod
SniperGod

@Skullbone
@PurpleCharger

huge areas
If you run from start to finish in VOG it is the same length of most strikes running start to finish. What the fuck are you talking about?

DeathDog
DeathDog

Am the only one in my team to go positive

It's just like Destiny 1!

Oh the bright side, at least there were no Prolapsus Lenses

JunkTop
JunkTop

@Illusionz
It could in the future. VoG mechanics were incorporated into regular missions and strikes down the line. No reason why Gauntlet lite won't happen in the future.

Illusionz
Illusionz

@RavySnake
HoW and CE being dlc is on Activision.

Nude_Bikergirl
Nude_Bikergirl

@Need_TLC
1/2
destiny 1 vanilla
gear has random rolls for a chance to be better
5+ exotic bounties with plenty more to collect, over 30+ exotics without dlc
great pvp with multiple modes and maps, 6v6, 3v3,etc
raid full of interesting mechanics and lore, some of the best weapons to date
hard mode raid gave better rewards and higher light level gear
live events that gave rare exclusive gear, some which never returned until year 3
factions were built in
grimoire collectibles that let you what was going on
dark below
gear can be rerolled
new pvp maps
new areas on moon,
new raid with new race, weapons gave extreme advantages over hive
10+ new exotics to collect
PVE/PVP tuning was balanced and seamless

PurpleCharger
PurpleCharger

@Dreamworx
I boiled it down, but you have to remember that the Crota fight was so simple mechanically that they straight up ported it to the Court of Oryx and the randoms that weren't even in the same fireteam never had any issue.

Methshot
Methshot

@Gigastrength
The Absolute State of Destiny 2 2

idontknow
idontknow

@Nude_Bikergirl
PVP tuning was balanced and seamless
Alright relax I too think D2 is waste compared to D1 but you are out of your mind if you actually believe this

Nude_Bikergirl
Nude_Bikergirl

@RavySnake
Bungie fanboy can't say Bungie are just a shitty dev

whereismyname
whereismyname

@viagrandad
Sunbreaker with bottom tree and Hallowfire is VERY strong if you don't like using your super until late in competitive modes. The Thermite grenades are possibly better than Voidwalls for zoning. I find it's most effective popping Hammers on match point defense during Countdown.
Stand Asides on the top tree is ok. Khepri's on bottom tree is pretty strong against mobs as well.

Nude_Bikergirl
Nude_Bikergirl

@JunkTop
If they tweaked it sure but even correcting for the fact that the guantlet requires two teams of 3, there's no way I could run the Guantlet with two rando's without using chat.

I can run a strike without needing to worry at all about how successful my teammates are. If someone fucks up enough in Guantlet, it's a wipe

Deadlyinx
Deadlyinx

@Nude_Bikergirl
vs
destiny 2 vanilla
more cutscenes but story was poorly told somehow
lost sectors
clans
small 4v4 maps in pvp,ttk reduced from traditional shooter to moba-tier teamshooting, took the first dlc to reward something more than 1 token
raid was a fucking gameshow with shitty rewards and no confirmed kill on main boss
removed grimoire and other QOL such as buying gear and cosmetic kiosks, shaders are now consumable and limited in storage
most exotics are from d1, only new to beginners
strikes are super bland, an attempt was made
the story is gutted from what was already a sliver and all previous in game lore is subject to change
can only access faction gear during an ib timed event that isn't worth a damn
ib gear has the worst rng in the game
no random rolls
microtransactions are the only thing to grind for, xp is decreased after level cap
characters have major personality changes

curse of osiris
maybe 3 or 4 new exotics, the rest taken once again from d1, two redesigned weapons
maybe 5 story missions, most of which is custscene or a rehased strike from base game, story is invisible and difficult to look for
story boss is a direct rehash from taken king raid's main boss in both looks and mechanics with a few vex gates and extremely low hit points
mercury is one small circle, public event space clutters most of the map, no sparrows to get around unless you wait for cabal interceptors
'''infinite forest''' is only available in 3 adventures
nothing left to afterwards except grind endlessly doing 20-30+ strikes/public events for shitty vex-themed weapons
the mysterious 'raid lair' is the only thing left to keep people playing outside of shitty extra perks for legendaries in a future update

FastChef
FastChef

@idontknow
lol fuck off retard

d1's pvp was great. competitive, balanced and the skill ceiling was probably the highest in any fps since halo 2. it's only because of activision paying MLG and other companies not to host esports events, to keep it casual that it never got big

remember how people loved HoW meta. competitive destiny was good, even though you had to exploit matchmaking for 'private' matches

Supergrass
Supergrass

@SniperGod
VoG is the same length as most strikes
Trial of Kabr
Templar's Well
The huge drop into the Gorgon's Labyrinth
Gorgon's Labyrinth proper
The jumping puzzle after that
The Throne Room
If you say so my man.

Dreamworx
Dreamworx

@whereismyname
Why bottom tree?

massdebater
massdebater

@FastChef
remember how people loved HoW meta

yeah people loved getting 2 tapped by thorn and being unable to fight back against bugged TLW or OHK efrideet's and shot package felwinter's. truly it was the pinnacle of FPS gaming.

PackManBrainlure
PackManBrainlure

@FastChef
d1's pvp was great. competitive, balanced and the skill ceiling was probably the highest in any fps since halo 2
L O L

Burnblaze
Burnblaze

@massdebater
There was a weapon meta in every Destiny expansion, and there was always an anti-meta that was still viable. That doesn't exist anymore.

Spamalot
Spamalot

Were the durations for golden gun and nighstalker anchors reduced in the DLC?

I swear my gold gun lasts half the time it used to and same for my void anchors.

AwesomeTucker
AwesomeTucker

@Supergrass
Length wise which was your goal post moving bullshit it is yes.

whereismyname
whereismyname

@Burnblaze
That doesn't exist anymore.
How are you so fucking retarded? I played one match against a team of four with all lenses and had to leave because they were instakilling us. Destiny's pvp is not fun, and it's still just as fucking broken

iluvmen
iluvmen

Need one for NF on pc. Add kwn#1542

Methshot
Methshot

@SniperGod
VoG was like 2 strikes in general length. In actual execution it had like 4 or 5 mechanics that a strike would see one of. Especially when you take into consideration going after hidden chests. I doubt we'll ever see a strike that is as complicated as templar in dull execution even if they did take the relic and throw it on the nexus strike.

RavySnake
RavySnake

@Burnblaze
Having a "meta" and a "counter meta" doesn't make your game competitive in the least. Giving everyone broken guns doesn't make the guns not broken. It does make the game fun though, and the willingness to put in things that aren't exactly competitive is one of the chief reasons why D1 was way better than D2.

WebTool
WebTool

@BlogWobbles
They tried to fuck him in the end, but it was good at one point. They gave him a job when his studio burned down.

I was surprised to see Salvatori in the credits though, he and Marty we're collaborators for a long time. Hope there wasn't a fallout between them.

BinaryMan
BinaryMan

@FastChef
Not him, but D1's PvP did have issues, it's just that those issues tended to be things like fusion grenades having a massive stick radius and so on

Yeah a couple of weapons became pretty powerful, but in the end, there was always something that could counter it and there were multiple powerful weapons simultaneously. Plus with random/god rolls for guns, there was always room for play. Plus they did have more active balance patches

Nojokur
Nojokur

@massdebater
yes and low ttk games require more skill because you have to plan in advance or you die. It's more tactical and skillful

Supergrass
Supergrass

@Playboyize
notice me osiris senpai!
wtf bugo?

Sir_Gallonhead
Sir_Gallonhead

@BinaryMan
Destiny 1 absolutely did not have more active balance patches. Fuck off.

Soft_member
Soft_member

@iluvmen
Takes 2 to beat it, boss. Just try it.

Firespawn
Firespawn

@Methshot
VOG was not 2 strikes at all from start to finish simply running it was short. It's one small pathway entrance, then one large room you spend 50% of the raid, another pathway, Gorgon room and jumping puzzle room you bypass in seconds. It's no different then a strike.

DeathDog
DeathDog

@Dreamworx
Sunspots paired with Hallowfire is the fastest cooldowns outside of Vorelock. If you kill someone in a chokepoint, you can just pop your barricade and stand there and HOLD THE LINE and any retard that rushes you gets torched.
Furthermore the exploding hammers aren't as beneficial when you can just chain kills and march towards your opponent's spawn and with the duration extensions you might be able to wipe an enemy team twice over in Survival.
Also the heal on kill of course.

AwesomeTucker
AwesomeTucker

So Heroic Adventures are meant to be played in a team, right?

Need_TLC
Need_TLC

@AwesomeTucker
I was talking length in terms of space, but even if we're talking about length to play through you're a fucking idiot.

Strikes have one boss fight. VoG has two.
Strikes also then usually have some non-boss encounters in the middle. Things like defend this or scan that. VoG has Oracles, Gorgons, and Gatekeepers.
Strikes also then have some down time for travel. VoG has the jumping puzzle, the path from Templars Well to the gorgons, and the Trial of Kabr.

There is no definition of 'length' that makes strikes longer than VoG. Take your moving goalpost and move it up your ass.

MPmaster
MPmaster

@DeathDog
Is this also true/the same for PvE?

Playboyize
Playboyize

@whereismyname
reading comprehension
I was clearly talking about an anti-meta, this game is fucking broken with no way to not use meta weapons.
@RavySnake
Where did I mention competitive? I'm talking about weapons actually being viable to one another, the beauty of D1's pvp was you didn't have to use meta weapons, and in fact you could do as well without them because of how each weapon type and archetype worked.

Evilember
Evilember

@Playboyize
The original guy I was responding to made this statement
d1's pvp was great. competitive, balanced and the skill ceiling was probably the highest in any fps since halo 2.
And I thought you were in support of it, my mistake

BunnyJinx
BunnyJinx

How the fuck did they fuck up the lazer so fucking bad.

Garbage Can Lid
Garbage Can Lid

@Evilember
Not a problem, I wish this board had ID's sometimes.

Methshot
Methshot

@BunnyJinx
They did it on purpose: @Techpill

BinaryMan
BinaryMan

want to play sunbreaker
striker is infinitely superior

Dreamworx
Dreamworx

@Spamalot
Gold gun last shorter but 6 shot last longer. Read the patch notes.

Harmless_Venom
Harmless_Venom

@Need_TLC
I was talking length in terms of space
Ok and these strikes take place on entire planets and you can deviate and veer off of them if you desire if you want to get this semantic level.

but even if we're talking about length to play through you're a fucking idiot.

If you run a straight line from start to finish you can make it to the end of VOG in like 2 minutes. Thats like a fucking strike you moron. VOG is nothing but a glorified strike based on your autistic logic.

Strikes have one boss fight. VoG has two.
Strikes also then usually have some non-boss encounters in the middle. Things like defend this or scan that. VoG has Oracles, Gorgons, and Gatekeepers.
Strikes also then have some down time for travel. VoG has the jumping puzzle, the path from Templars Well to the gorgons, and the Trial of Kabr.

Wow and I can use this logic for CE. Thank you for proving CE is a raid in your very own words autist! If you reply to this post your mother will die in her sleep.

CouchChiller
CouchChiller

@MPmaster
Oh hell yeah, it's great for PvE.
It's most efficient if you're aggressive with your grenades.
Excellent for killing trash mobs. I think the top tree may be a tiny bit better on boss dps, but you won't have the faster cooldowns. Especially if you can get the high ground (and according to the Kerak greaves, Titans always have the high ground)

haveahappyday
haveahappyday

@Firespawn
You had the encounter to get into the vault, followed by a rather lengthy hallway to get to templar, the oracles, templars encounter, a lengthy multi pathed hallway to gorgons/the secret chest, gorgons, the jump puzzle that could be crossed by bones or using your super after jumping like 3 times, and then atheon himself which is more complicated than any strike mechanics. Any strike would be maybe the starting encounter, followed by the hallway, followed by a dumbed down templar, with no oracles at all. Unless the oracles were worked into the encounter, in which case destroying the oracles to be able to damage the templar would be as complicated as it got. You can't have complex mechanics in strikes, cause people are fucking retarded. You would match up with Jose.Gutierrez.2006,and xXxNarutosBallsxXx, and then never complete any of the mechanics as they are either too fucking stupid to figure out "stand on a plate and shoot the bad guys" or they would just die. And they don't have mics, or refuse to use them.

DeathDog
DeathDog

@BinaryMan
tfw all subclasses we're viable in D1
While small, the Sunbreaker buff did help somewhat. I still think we should get ability to melee with it while in super, but that won't happen

eGremlin
eGremlin

@Supergrass
They gave Sagira a tsundere like line and there's a portion where if you take the top path with the sparrow she says how she likes you. Are they pushing waifu faggotry now too? Where's Mara and Eris for it!

Illusionz
Illusionz

@Fried_Sushi
obviouly

FastChef
FastChef

@BinaryMan
pulse grenade delivery harness
current week
good

Take up the Hammer. Remember the Forge.

Stark_Naked
Stark_Naked

Daemon Boomer Knights

Jesus

Daemon Shanks

JESUS

Heroic Adventures are kind of fun though. This is the first hard PvE activity I know of in Destiny. At least for the time being, who knows how they are on higher light levels.

cum2soon
cum2soon

@haveahappyday
You had the encounter to get into the vault,
ok 5 seconds to traverse from where you spawn to entrance

followed by a rather lengthy hallway to get to templar,

40 seconds is not lengthy

the oracles, templars encounter

Yea one room that looks vast but is actually tiny in the playing area

a lengthy multi pathed hallway to gorgons/the secret chest

Again, 50 seconds to get from Templar room to gorgons

the jump puzzle that could be crossed by bones or using your super after jumping like 3 times

You jump on first platform, then second, then third, and run to the end. Another 40 second ordeal

You can make it from start to finish is the raid was empty in 3 minutes. Thats strike size. VOG is nothing but a strike based on your autistic logic.

Dreamworx
Dreamworx

@Stark_Naked
Anthem is going to be a joke and I'm genuinely baffled by people that still have faith in Bioware or EA.

Need_TLC
Need_TLC

@BinaryMan
Why?

askme
askme

@DeathDog
Suncharge would be sublime.
Was playing around in D1 the other night. Shit is too much fun zapping across meters to blow up a mop trying to teamshot you.

Emberfire
Emberfire

@cum2soon
ok 5 seconds to traverse from where you spawn to entrance
Oh okay you just never got into VoG then I see.

Deadlyinx
Deadlyinx

@PurpleCharger
First time PC player picks up the game
Has little over a month to get to complete all of the content before getting locked out
Well I guess it's not that big of an issue since there isn't much to do.

TurtleCat
TurtleCat

@Emberfire
I am talking about length of the raid from start to finish minus the encounters. Thats the gal post moving logic you or the other autist brought up to invalidate CE.

RavySnake
RavySnake

@PurpleCharger
Except the lockouts were only for DLC exclusive content,

King_Martha
King_Martha

@TalkBomber
Us PC players are smart.
Aw lawd.

Evil_kitten
Evil_kitten

@AwesomeTucker
They can be done solo for fun, with two or more people they become really easy.

Playboyize
Playboyize

moebius quiver fucks up orpheus rig, can we get a deselect perk option?
we hear you, and to fix this we've increased the time moebius quiver is active!
???

haveahappyday
haveahappyday

@Harmless_Venom
D-don't reply to me, I have no argument and don't want to play anymore
Wowzers, kiddo.

We're not talking lore, we're talking about playable space. Strikes start in a patrol space, and then funnel into a strike specific area. VoG does the same fucking thing, except it's specific area is much fucking bigger than a strikes.
This is not an argument.

If you run from start to finish through VoG you can make it to the end in like 4 minutes. If you run from start to finish through any strike you can make it to the end in about half of that. When you add encounters on top of that, VoG takes even longer. Hell, you don't even have to do most of strikes, you can just sprint past enemies.
This is not an argument.

Please, use the same logic for CE. Fucking do it, pussy.
CE has one boss, Crota
CE has two non-boss encounters. Deathsinger and the Bridge.
CE has two transit encounters. Abyss and the Shrieker hallway, if the Shrieker hallway can even be fucking counted.
Woah, what's that? VoG has more content in each category than CE? And CE and Strikes have near to the same amount of encounters in each category? Who the fuck coulda seen that one coming?

Fucking neck yourself you Dark Below apologist. Please reply to me, watching you flounder like this gets me rock fucking hard.

Firespawn
Firespawn

@Stupidasole
It's no longer the product I paid for
They took away something I paid for.
I can no logner compelte the game that I paid for
Taking away something they already paid for

user, please tell me that this isn't you, because this is some cringy as fuck arguing.

Do ANY of you niggers read the terms of service when you boot up software?

Yes its bullshit what bungie did, yes its retarded that three years later they still did it.
But you are the biggest fucking retard because you gave them the right for it.
What you "paid for" is the right to access the game at Bungie's descretion you fucking retard, stop trying to be an armchair legal expert for fuck's sake.
The game LITERALLY spells this out for you when you boot it up for the first time and asks you to confirm. The second you confirm, this is the shit you paid for. You know what you are right now? You're that slutty bitch that has a drunken one-night stand and then decides it was rape retroactively. That's what you are. You agreed to these terms of service, played the game, then when the terms of service actually applied to you then you decided its no longer fair and your play should retractively not count.

Nah bitch, you got exactly what you paid for, shit features and garbage customer service alike, and I fucking revel in the knowledge that you didn't get your refund just so that maybe you can use this experience to actually learn your fucking terms of service and grow the fuck up.

BTW, you were getting pissy at some guy that's not allowed to do anything but answer with pre-approved responses while being paid $3 an hour. GG, you're a double-faggot.

Dreamworx
Dreamworx

tfw made it to clan 1
yeeeees boys

Lunatick
Lunatick

@Firespawn
Still violates Microsoft's ToS

Spamalot
Spamalot

@Firespawn
kys retard
go shill on some other website

Emberfire
Emberfire

@Firespawn
These ToS violate Xbox ToS.
You can't be held to agree to something that is against ToS.

RumChicken
RumChicken

@cum2soon
Have you done VoG? There is an entire mechanic to get into the vault, that involves multiple people standing on platforms and killing bad dudes to open the vault. You don't just walk in. It takes a couple of minutes with an organized team. Normally no longer than like 5,but not 5 seconds. Even just running from spawn to the door was about 30 seconds.
And yes, 40-50 seconds of completely uninterrupted running is lengthy.
Which is then followed by killing dudes, destroying oracles, killing dudes AND destroying oracles,and then killing templar. And if you want the secret chest you have to make sure that templar doesn't teleport.
Then you have another instance of a minute of uninterrupted running (with a splinter path to get maybe ghorn), followed by sneaking. Which also had a splinter path to get some mats.
Then a jumping puzzle that was pretty meh, but if you did it the way bungie intended was ok. Then atheon, where you had to kill dudes while standing on platforms, then kill dudes while standing on platforms while people killed dudes through a portal. Followed by shooting the boss while standing on a platform until he died and you didn't get mythoclast yet again.

@TurtleCat
I am talking about length of the raid from start to finish minus the encounters. Thats the gal post moving logic you or the other autist brought up to invalidate CE.
Thats not even right though. All of pyramidion could fit into the first half of VoG.

Fried_Sushi
Fried_Sushi

@Firespawn
Imagine caring this much about a pointless argument

Flameblow
Flameblow

@Burnblaze
Yeah I wonder where anyone would get these totally baseless assumptions!
Do you follow trends of gear, builds and vanity items in MMOs?
the Senior Progression Designer works with a diverse array of disciplines to build and maintain Destiny’s monetization business: the Eververse.
Create sustainable player progression and chase through Destiny 2’s Bright Engram
@Stark_Naked

lostmypassword
lostmypassword

@Emberfire
@Lunatick
Nope, this is standard TOS for all software, Microsoft has the same TOS, literally everything except for freeware and open source/shareware have this exact same line in them. LITERALLY EVERY GAME YOU OWN.

@Fried_Sushi
I don't have to imagine it, I'm looking at you right now.

Gigastrength
Gigastrength

@Dreamworx
Lump?

RavySnake
RavySnake

So can all guardians change subclasses like the MC or are we le chosen one? The vanguard definitely know about their abilities, but you never see Zavala throwing hammers or dropping a fist of havoc on niggas.

kizzmybutt
kizzmybutt

@lostmypassword
Nope
Nope!

AwesomeTucker
AwesomeTucker

@RavySnake
Zavala has been shown using both FoH and Defender bubble

kizzmybutt
kizzmybutt

@kizzmybutt
Literally every game you own.

TreeEater
TreeEater

@lostmypassword
Microsoft literally has been giving out refunds because it violates Xbox ToS where an achievement in the base game can't be locked out by a DLC
You are arguing a position that is demonstrably incorrect

farquit
farquit

Jade Rabbit
Scout rifle with a fucking body shot modifier
Why did I get this fucking garbage

SniperGod
SniperGod

@Firespawn
It literally violates Microsoft and Sony's certification process. They might be able to get away with the content but your vanilla achievements/trophies becoming locked behind DLC is a big no-no in that whole process.

FastChef
FastChef

@haveahappyday
Strikes take place on patrol spaces. Again if you want to use this semantics argument I can fuck off from a strike and go out to multiple patrol areas.

If you run to start to finish of VOG it will take 2-3 minutes which is what most strikes are.

VOG is not a strike based on your autist logic. If you reply to this post your mother will die in her sleep.

Garbage Can Lid
Garbage Can Lid

@TreeEater
Microsoft can issue all the refunds they want. That literally doesn't change that you people agreed to these terms of service and you have no rights, you accepted this shit.

@SniperGod
Nope.

Bidwell
Bidwell

@RavySnake
Zavala is shown to use Bubbles. He's used Fists in trailers.
He doesn't have Hammers though.
I'm not 100%, but I think Shaxx is only a Striker.

Ikora dunks a Nova Bomb on some Cabal, and is a Stormcaller as well.

Cayde uses his goldie on some Cabal as well, and is shown to have used Void bows too. He's also implied to be a Bladedancer in some TTK mission.

Do you not even play this game?

PackManBrainlure
PackManBrainlure

@Firespawn
It's from reddit. You wrote a wall of text aimed at someone that won't even read lmao

Fuzzy_Logic
Fuzzy_Logic

@Garbage Can Lid
Microsoft can issue all the refunds they want.
Excellent

TechHater
TechHater

Today's heroic adventures is actually doable alone. Damage boost is great.

5mileys
5mileys

@RumChicken
Are you not listening to me. The argument is total length from start to finish ignoring the encounters. Pretend VOG is glitched out and open. From start to finish you can get to Atheons room in 2-3 minutes. Thats the autistic argument you or the other guy brought up to invalidate Crota.

Thats not even right though. All of pyramidion could fit into the first half of VoG.

I am glad that pyramidion is the only strike in all of Destiny history.

Deadlyinx
Deadlyinx

@RavySnake
Oh, it's also fairly uncommon for Guardians to use more than a single element, three is exceptionally rare.
Iirc, even Osiris only uses Solar and Void talents.

Sir_Gallonhead
Sir_Gallonhead

@5mileys
It would likely take 5+ minutes to get through the vault, just running.
And my entire argument from the get go has been the raid isn't a strike based purely on its mechanics.
And the pyramidion is the longest distance strike I can think of off the top of my head.

SomethingNew
SomethingNew

@Nude_Bikergirl
This much revisionism.

BlogWobbles
BlogWobbles

@FastChef
Wow, you really never did play D1 did you?
Guess fucking what? You can also nacker off from the VoG door and go to literally all of Venus.

And yes, thanks for agreeing with me. VoG is not a strike based on my autistic logic.

Raving_Cute
Raving_Cute

Can I get Radiolarian Cumstains from any Public Event or just the one on Mercury?

King_Martha
King_Martha

@Sir_Gallonhead
pyramidion lenghtwise is small compared to inverted spire or any other strike where you have to travel long distances

5mileys
5mileys

@Raving_Cute
any and all

Inmate
Inmate

@Sir_Gallonhead
2 minutes, 3 tops if you done it before.
Your argument kept changing as people kept proving you wrong. The latest one involved length of Crota but as I shown by your autistic logic, VOG is not a raid. If you reply to this post your mother will die in her sleep.

Carnalpleasure
Carnalpleasure

Is it just me or Voidwalker got nerfed?

Emberburn
Emberburn

OFFICIAL /DG/ PC APPROVED PLAYERS LIST

The Diddler (Ascendent)
Hitchenson (Clan Wrangler)
Forren
Broletariat (dumb name)
JokeItch
LazyTheGypsy
LumpyGiraffe (has gf(male)) (Ascendent)
Snakior
(((Maelon)))
Raptor (not actually a raptor)
Gigathrax
DonThyDon (Alpha)
Nicoma
RabidLobster
Kwn (Literally a former Tard Wrangler) (Ascendent)
Misriah
(((Corvon))) (good jew)
Descense
Doombox (ill) (Ascendent)
Pacobell
Kuzhov
DVA (unironically racist)
Zippy (Alpha)
Carreau
Darwin
Dubtack (Ascendent)
Ligeia
Bart (Ascendent)
Nicoma
Radagast
RichardNixon (not the President)
Sidthe

OFFICIAL /DG/ PC BLACKLIST

BANG
Ship (Thinks pvp is good)
Lambda
Parlei (rage quits)
UpdateGuy
Kasbian (weeb) (the hunt)
JTP
HolyNirvana (Autistic about patch notes)
Hyperion
Also (((Maelon))) when he talks about being jewish too much

Deadlyinx
Deadlyinx

They really overdid the humor in this game. Cayde doesn't say a serious through the entire game without a quip punctuating it. Ghost is a sarcastic asshat that also never says something without a quip. It's like a fucking marvel movie. And then there's Osiris's ghost, who, being ancient and full of wisdom, would be kind of somber and serious when dealing with an apocalypse scenario. But nope, quips galor.

Even the God damn lore tabs on exotics are full of lolxd crap. At least the raid gear lore tabs provide tone appropriate lore insight.

This game feels like it was written by 7 different people who never met or spoke to each other.

GoogleCat
GoogleCat

@BlogWobbles
Guess fucking what? You can also nacker off from the VoG door and go to literally all of Venus.
Exactly which is why you argument about total space is extremely retarded.

Spazyfool
Spazyfool

@Firespawn
Anon, please tell me that this isn't you, because this is some cringy as fuck arguing.
Yeah le xD cringe. Sorry Luke but that kind of argument got my game refunded.
BTW, you were getting pissy at some guy that's not allowed to do anything but answer with pre-approved responses while being paid $3 an hour. GG, you're a double-faggot
Did you read your own post? You're absolutely ass-ravaged over the thought of some guy trying to get a refund. Not to mention it's entirely over images as well.

TalkBomber
TalkBomber

@King_Martha
Shit, yea. How the fuck did I forget about spire?
@Inmate
Jokes on you, I don't have a mom.
And also I never brought up crotas end. Youre arguing with like 3 dudes.

GoogleCat
GoogleCat

Are any of the new vexxy weapons good? Which should I go for first?

haveahappyday
haveahappyday

@Deadlyinx
we want to make the lore accessible to people in game
raid lore is locked across items you get AFTER you complete the raid multiple times with RNG drop chances
J U S T

Evilember
Evilember

@Emberburn
Nigga I'm only using Jewish as a meme

TechHater
TechHater

@GoogleCat
Are you dumb? Like do you actually have a brain deficiency?
I'm going to assume you're baiting me and not a literal 2 IQ brainlet, because come the fuck on man there's no way any human being that knows how to use a keyboard wouldn't get the point here.

Techpill
Techpill

@TalkBomber
And also I never brought up crotas end. Youre arguing with like 3 dudes.
Well then please understand what started the argument when you reply to me. Take 5 seconds to follow the comment trail so you don't sound like a retard.

JunkTop
JunkTop

@Firespawn
t. Microsoft customer service mad over having to do work

TechHater
TechHater

@Emberburn
Blacklisted

Illusionz
Illusionz

@TechHater
I am so mad I am going to throw an autistic temper tantrum.

I accept your concession. If you reply to this post your mother will die in her sleep.

idontknow
idontknow

dubtack is a nigger

PackManBrainlure
PackManBrainlure

@Emberburn
why are you making shit up?
just because i criticized you for your autism?

FastChef
FastChef

Jack Queen King 3
Yo I like this gun.
It's nice in Crucible.

BunnyJinx
BunnyJinx

@Emberburn
is this some elitist circlejerk or what?

Lord_Tryzalot
Lord_Tryzalot

muh randumb rolls
Fuck off if you actually enjoy RNG bullshit. I am much happier with the new system.

Sir_Gallonhead
Sir_Gallonhead

@Bidwell
Guess I never watched the trailer, and I clearly forgot Cayden using the bow.

It just irks me a little that they're supposed to be the best of the best, but in game they're one class ponies. I want them slinging everything at whoever attacks the tower. Zavala should have been fisting dropships then chucking hammers down on the battlefield while it crashes.

lostmypassword
lostmypassword

@Emberburn
Posting names
Might as well blacklist everyone at this point

Snarelure
Snarelure

@BunnyJinx
dub posted it
so just ignore it

Techpill
Techpill

@Snarelure
he's obnoxious

Spazyfool
Spazyfool

@BunnyJinx
can't follow 2 easy steps to join the clan and discord

and stay mad too

Methnerd
Methnerd

@Lord_Tryzalot
t. My name is Bdf

Evilember
Evilember

nobody likes dub but we all pretend to like him in the discord anyway :^)

RumChicken
RumChicken

@TechHater
taking joff99wipes seriously
You weren't actually blacklisted, but you should be now.

Supergrass
Supergrass

@Spazyfool
what does that have to do with the post you inbred

Fried_Sushi
Fried_Sushi

@Lord_Tryzalot
I wish it were better utilized. There are some perks that are only available on one gun. And weapons that are just completely useless due to shit perks.

Crazy_Nice
Crazy_Nice

@Emberburn
no PC traps
; h;

Harmless_Venom
Harmless_Venom

@Supergrass
Boy no need to get angry bro lol

farquit
farquit

@Spazyfool
I'm actually in the discord. Though I find a lot of the active people unpleasant there

FastChef
FastChef

@Lord_Tryzalot
How are you fanboys still a thing? How?

Skullbone
Skullbone

@Crazy_Nice
There is a PC trap, Lumpy's girlfriend. She (he) plays sometimes.

TechHater
TechHater

@farquit
same
i just muted most channels and blocked the most obnoxious people

SniperWish
SniperWish

pvp is literally unplayable
Why is getting my crucible milestone done such cancer?

WebTool
WebTool

is it me or are cayde's stashes giving much better and consistent rewards? before sometimes i would get nothing, even if i had not looted any chest or resource in a long time. usually id get a few tokens.
today the chests had 4 tokens minimum, a mod or two, and a weapon/armor or two. even got an exotic engram. i still have a chest or two to loot so ill see if its just good luck but i was just wondering if anyone else experienced this.

Stark_Naked
Stark_Naked

@Emberburn
kill yourself db

Raving_Cute
Raving_Cute

@Skullbone
Is she cuter than kazuto?

iluvmen
iluvmen

@Lord_Tryzalot
people bitch about bosses being bullet sponges being "artificial difficulty"
the same people have no issue having to earn the same weapon over and over to get a roll that's not shit

Techpill
Techpill

UwU

Supergrass
Supergrass

@SniperWish
just go afk

Spamalot
Spamalot

@Emberburn
Remove dubtack from the approved players and we're talking

DeathDog
DeathDog

@iluvmen
Whats your proof the same people do that?

whereismyname
whereismyname

@Supergrass
It's what i'm doing, crouching behind c over in the back of the map. It's just cancerous right now to play crucible unless you have the meme beam.

hairygrape
hairygrape

What's TTK?

TalkBomber
TalkBomber

@whereismyname
Blacklisted for being a shitter.

ZeroReborn
ZeroReborn

@hairygrape
time to kill

CodeBuns
CodeBuns

@DeathDog
Experience over the last 3 years. I'm not going to compile some list. I'm not THAT autistic.

GoogleCat
GoogleCat

@SniperWish
stick with blue dots
shoot the same direction

so fucking hard to put in the minimal effort

5mileys
5mileys

@Lord_Tryzalot
Honestly, I'm fine with fixed perks, when the guns are good (VoG anyone?).
But I'm not fine with my 2nd Better Devils being as interesting as my 1st, 3rd, or 10th.
Masterworks aren't the fix either.

What they should do is allow your successive dupes to gain or select additional perks, but from a predetermined set of options. Incentives grind.

EVEN better, add certain perks that can only be obtained by completing certain challenges. Like the new legendary ornament system, but for perks. Only casuals and shitters could possibly disagree with this.

Nude_Bikergirl
Nude_Bikergirl

@Sir_Gallonhead
Combat ability is not leadership quality, they should showcase their ability to lead and inspire others better though.

Inmate
Inmate

Are most of the clan on NA?

t. EU

Methshot
Methshot

Destiny 2 right now feels a lot like Destiny 1 pre TTK to me.

VisualMaster
VisualMaster

@GoogleCat
stick with blue dots
meme laser 4 kills us in 1 second
Good plan retard.

Lunatick
Lunatick

@Inmate
It's about 3 burgers to 1 bong

Inmate
Inmate

@Inmate
apparently

likme
likme

@Methshot
D1 at launch was better than this. I unironically miss forever29

Soft_member
Soft_member

@hairygrape
@ZeroReborn
TTK is The Taken King
ttk is time to kill

BinaryMan
BinaryMan

@Methshot
history is repeating itself although d2 is in more trouble because as soon as people finish the paltry amount of new content added in CoO there will be literally NOTHING outside of IB and faction rally until next season

VisualMaster
VisualMaster

>>197953432
hello Mealon

FastChef
FastChef

@CodeBuns
Ok my 3 year experience says the opposite therefore you are wrong.

Raving_Cute
Raving_Cute

@Soft_member
Wouldn't abbreviations be in caps as well? Also context makes it pretty clear what people are talking about.

Booteefool
Booteefool

@VisualMaster
fucking jew

ZeroReborn
ZeroReborn

@Sir_Gallonhead
the only thing that can semi counter it is a super

w8t4u
w8t4u

@Booteefool
racist much?

Skullbone
Skullbone

@BinaryMan
Well I'm hoping that the first big expansion unfucks D2 the same was that TTK unfucked D1.

Though it's a shame, I thought D2 would go on from where D1 ended.

Evilember
Evilember

@Methshot
where is my prison of eolders

PurpleCharger
PurpleCharger

@Booteefool
:(

lostmypassword
lostmypassword

@Skullbone
it absolutely should have, but apparently 3 years taught bungie absolutely fucking nothing

at this point I almost think TTK was a fluke and theyve just been throwing shit at a barn door hoping something good would stick

Snarelure
Snarelure

Destiny 2 is the greatest game ever made and if you disagree you can go to hell you toxic fucks. Don't bother responding, I am leaving this thread.

Firespawn
Firespawn

How come every energy weapon is Veist, Suros or Omolon, why is there no Vanguard style energy weapons like there are kinetic?

hairygrape
hairygrape

@Sir_Gallonhead
Cayde has a bow in the Nightstalker regain mission.

ZeroReborn
ZeroReborn

every crucible match is see if the enemy has the prom lens
if they don't, play like normal
if they do (and they always do) afk in a corner
Quality gameplay bungo.

PurpleCharger
PurpleCharger

@hairygrape
blacklisted for being stupid

Stark_Naked
Stark_Naked

@w8t4u
show yourself you mega jew

Sir_Gallonhead
Sir_Gallonhead

NF?

SniperWish
SniperWish

@Sir_Gallonhead
ps4
Hard pass.

Supergrass
Supergrass

@Stark_Naked
Shalom

Nude_Bikergirl
Nude_Bikergirl

@Raving_Cute
I'm just having a laff, m93.
If you're a mustard or newfag, or just plain ratfuck stupid (and there are more than a few of those idiots here) you might not know about The Taken King.

Skullbone
Skullbone

some sweaty tryhard has the lens weapons
gets 56 kills with around 11~ KAD by just camping B flag

good game bungie

Bidwell
Bidwell

@GoogleCat
stick to my retarded team
theyre cluelessly running aorund
im constantly looking at my radar that's basically a free wallhack
they don't realize somebody is coming
stand back and hide
watch all 3 of them get killed by one guy
mmmhmm fun

massdebater
massdebater

@Supergrass
stop pretending to be maleon (female) dub

Stupidasole
Stupidasole

Can someone attempt to explain exactly how Taken King revolutionized D1? I keep seeing everyone say D2 at launch = D1 pre-Taken King.

What the hell did Taken King do that made the game so great and wasn't included in D2?

BunnyJinx
BunnyJinx

@Bidwell
did I say it was fun?

Sir_Gallonhead
Sir_Gallonhead

@Stupidasole
Nothing. People are just memeing

lostmypassword
lostmypassword

just want some of the new exotics
farm engrams
Raiden flux
Raiden flux
Wardcliff
Merciless
Wardcliff
Raiden flux
Boy am i fucking mad, why couldnt they take the extra hour and disable exotic dupes with this patch?

PurpleCharger
PurpleCharger

@Stupidasole
It put in stuff into the game that should have been there and revamped older content. People exaggerate how good it was. If TTK was vanilla Destiny it would have been the same joke of a game.

cum2soon
cum2soon

@lostmypassword
because then why would you play?

PackManBrainlure
PackManBrainlure

@Lord_Tryzalot
multiple posts every thread of someone bitching about random rolls without replying to anyone because no one is even talking about it
It's always an impassioned BUT I LIKE THIS SYSTEM BETTER argument
Hmm

TreeEater
TreeEater

"why do people have different opinions"
"fucking stop it reeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee"

BunnyJinx
BunnyJinx

"quoting with greentext without replying to someone"

New_Cliche
New_Cliche

Bungie really needs to stop side-lining the other races.

I'm tired of Cayde being the only really relevant Exo and Zavala being the only relevant Awoken in D2

Illusionz
Illusionz

@Firespawn
god i fucking hate games as a service

farquit
farquit

@Stupidasole
Largest content expansion that was actually worth paying for..

viagrandad
viagrandad

@Stupidasole
What the hell did Taken King do that made the game so great and wasn't included in D2?

Nojokur
Nojokur

Im light 315 and unlocked a new exotic it comes as 315??? I thought its supposed to be higher so i could level up

FastChef
FastChef

@lostmypassword
I thought their twab stated they would put protection for dupe exotics?

I like how they didn't mention legendaries at all. I got like 10 crucible pulses yesterday

New_Cliche
New_Cliche

just watched two people in tower buy 320 engrams
each
didn't start counting until about 10 minutes of watching them
watched them for 40 minutes because I have autism
checked their stats
they paid for a trails carry

the state of destiny.

likme
likme

@Stupidasole
What the hell did Taken King do that made the game so great and wasn't included in D2?
Good-looking gear

iluvmen
iluvmen

@Stupidasole
It didn't, it's just delusional fangays

eGremlin
eGremlin

@Bidwell
recovery on hunter
kill self, ples

BunnyJinx
BunnyJinx

@PackManBrainlure
there was satisfaction in getting a good roll. A mediocre gun could become great, or a very niche roll would be awesome for pve shenanigans

now everythings not only the same roll for every weapon, but were 4 deep on reskins for almost every model in the game. There isnt any soul to the weapons anymore

Instead of "holy shit I got a g roll grasp from omnigul", its oh, theres my 15th uriels. guess Ive got more weapon parts now"

Raving_Cute
Raving_Cute

@likme
ttk launch sunbreaker
iron banner armor
mfw running around TONK-ing people while deus vulting

viagrandad
viagrandad

@New_Cliche
I never ever ever notice what anything is wearing. Why people spend so much money to try to impress strangers I have no idea. It's like autists here who want more banners and emblems to represent them as Y1 Destiny players. NO ONE CARES.

Poker_Star
Poker_Star

@Stupidasole
Kazutoposting.

RIP ; h;

Emberburn
Emberburn

@Stupidasole
It unfucked the pervious levelling system
It added new equipment types
It added new weapon types
It added/improved the menu
It introduced infusion
It got rid of the abundance of unnecessary currencies D1 originally had (which D2 has again for some reason)
It brought four new and really fun strikes
It brough a big and enjoyable raid
It brought cool ideas which for some reason where never touched again like hidden, alternate endings for story missions rewarding you with an exotic
It introduced one new sub class for each class
It brought entirely new crucible modes
It brought class exclusive weapons, a concept which again, remains untouched in D2
It introduced SRL
It greatly increased the vault space from the tiny laughable stockpiles we had before
It introduced Kiosks so we could just re-gain exotics or shaders we had acquired instead of carrying them with us all the time wasting the already laughably tiny vault and menu space

TurtleCat
TurtleCat

@FastChef
Actually believing that

HAHAHAHHAHAHA

From 5 exotics today, i've got 3 coldhearts, 1 Fighting lion and 1 Sunshot.

Spazyfool
Spazyfool

@Stupidasole
I will argue TTK is what started killing Destiny. I remember initially I did the Oryx raid every week on hard trying to get ghosts and other gear with higher roles. When I didn't get them it was disappointing but gave me a reason to try again next week. Then they implemented smart loot. When I did the same raid every time I was guaranteed higher gear and I had everything I needed 2 raids later killing any desire to run that raid anymore.

Bidwell
Bidwell

Bungie will never make it clear that the Vexified Saint-14 we fight is from a bad end future
We will never face what seems like a hopeless situation only to be saved last minute by the return of Saint-15 in a later expansion
We could have some pretty neat shit if Bungie cared about any class other than Warlocks

TalkBomber
TalkBomber

@Bidwell
where do you fight him?

takes2long
takes2long

@Stupidasole
BRETOMART'S STAND

w8t4u
w8t4u

@Stupidasole
BRETOMART'S STAND

Firespawn
Firespawn

@Spazyfool
Um...players wouldn't need to worry about smart loot 'ruining reasons to play' if...y'know bungoy weren't retarded and actually put in content.
How many raids were in the first destiny? like 2? that's pathetic
and now second expansion on their sequel, literally only a single raid and it's painfully obvious that this whole "raid lair" thing was stuff intended to be in from the beginning but sliced off so it could be sold back to us
it's disgusting

Booteefool
Booteefool

can only hold 50 types of shaders
can only dismantle one by one

Who the fuck thought this was ok? Why can't I just hold all the shaders? Holy shit bungie

Methshot
Methshot

@Booteefool
tfw 78 avalon teal

Carnalpleasure
Carnalpleasure

@TalkBomber
Don't know for sure but I thought he was the Raid Lair boss

StonedTime
StonedTime

Any key sites with the season pass? I’d rather Russian mobsters get my money

idontknow
idontknow

@Spazyfool
I'd say it's the lack of updates after TTK. There wass a huge drought after HM came out and apart from IB and SRL, Y2 was dead. The game had a good base that was improved over vanilla, but cutting out VoG, CE and PoE was a mistake. AoT helped to fix that, but it was way too late. Refreshed gear should have been a year earlier

lostmypassword
lostmypassword

@Booteefool
No kiosks whatsoever
Despite the TTK team being in the D2 team

????

Snarelure
Snarelure

@Firespawn
What surprises me if that Bungie HAD to know how little content was shipping with CoO, yet they still decided to release it without the accompanying raid content. It's like they were asking to be called out as shilling jews.

WebTool
WebTool

@ZeroReborn
pssh, I don't need a super. Just gotta shoot my bugs at the corner he's hiding around. Colony best gun; when lenses are scuffed by the nerfhammer, bugs will reign supreme.

lostmypassword
lostmypassword

@Booteefool
same retards who thought that your armor mod limit should be so low and also include shit effects and ornaments

Gigastrength
Gigastrength

@BunnyJinx
Luke even said months before release they wanted to make your Xth drop of the same gun more interesting than the last. Yet I sit here totally apathetic to what I get because almost no drop means anything.

FastChef
FastChef

@BunnyJinx
I agree that it gave a reason to keep grinding, but those same god-rolled weapons perks often made PVP pretty much unplayable until you managed to get one too. It happened repeatedly.

Methnerd
Methnerd

@Firespawn
destiny 1
2 raids

please be bait

Spazyfool
Spazyfool

@Spazyfool
I will argue TTK is what started killing Destiny.
but then I will say how TTK fixed it's only issue
nice blog
@Firespawn
Destiny had 4 raids and an end-game Colosseum

Raving_Cute
Raving_Cute

@BunnyJinx
tfw Hidden Hand/Take a Knee Angel's Advocate (or even more hilariously my identically rolled Hero Formula) with Transvestite Steps.
tfw BTFO'ing MIDA babbies while sneaking across the map
so much fanmail calling me a hacker etc.
Man, this shit is hilarious.

MPmaster
MPmaster

@Poker_Star

not even the vex can simulate user having a gf

Snarelure
Snarelure

@idontknow
there was a huge drought after HM came out
ib every other month
haloween event
SRL
Crimson Doubles
April Update 2015
Rise of Iron 4 months later

Dreamworx
Dreamworx

@viagrandad
books of sorrow
engaging campaign (at least more than this dlc)
great music
secrets everywhere
RAID

Lunatick
Lunatick

@FastChef
WHERE DID YOU GET IT

TELL ME

TELL ME NOW

massdebater
massdebater

@idontknow
cutting out PoE
did you leave TTK early or something?

Burnblaze
Burnblaze

@Methnerd
@Spazyfool
I genuinely did not know how many raids were in vanilla destiny
now, again
4 raids
at the end of it's life span it had 4 raids? world of warcraft had 6 raids in vanilla
its first expansion had 9 NINE raids in addition to a whole slew of other content.
The game is over a decade old now, Bungie have a brand new IP and the key to ActiBlizz's vault of jew gold. This amount of content is not only pathetic but at the dripfeed pace they're releasing it is just sad. I have never seen such a soulless, lazy cashgrab of a franchise.
Thank god I never payed for this game, because holy shit. Embarassing. By the end of this, Activision is gonna eat Bungie

BinaryMan
BinaryMan

@Booteefool

172 Atlantis Wish
93 Avalon Teal
53 Flowers of Io
132 blue geometry

Send help.

BlogWobbles
BlogWobbles

@FastChef
No, welfare guns existed back then too.
You also had very reliable powers with which to crutch.

Fried_Sushi
Fried_Sushi

@BinaryMan
step 1: set up a macro that presses the discard button
step 2: use that macro
victory!

idontknow
idontknow

@Spazyfool
making a raid pointless to run because everyone gets a trophy now fixes the problem

Fuck off shill. The subreddit is calling, they need you to run damage control.

Methnerd
Methnerd

@Burnblaze
quality unnecessary retort, I was answering your question faggot.

WoW raids are Destiny strikes anyways so you might as well say that Destiny vanilla released with 8+ raids.

takes2long
takes2long

Which one is more worth my money boys

Ignoramus
Ignoramus

@Methnerd
wow raids are destiny strikes

massdebater
massdebater

@idontknow
everyone gets a trophy
what the fuck are you on about, light scaling was important if you honestly think
forever 29
was a good thing unironically kill yourself

Evilember
Evilember

@Lunatick
From Brother Vance. Do the Adventure questline after finishing the campaign. Then you'll be allowed to do the Verses. Jack Queen King is Verse 3.

SniperWish
SniperWish

hey i just started the demo of D2 and i gotta say if it werent for the sluggishness of the warlock it would feel pretty good compared to warframe. them handcannons are scoring me way too many headshots.

the difficulty in this game is set to scale with the players, right? i was in a public event with a few lvl 25 and it was rather easier that i believed it would be.

the game actually feels like a oldschool shooter alike warframe, how had are shotguns on destiny 2? im considering a game as a christmas gift for me but id like to not spend more that 80 USD, will i lose something if i dont keep up with the expansions?

AwesomeTucker
AwesomeTucker

@Methnerd
Wew

Bidwell
Bidwell

@takes2long
1 2 switch.

Was that really a question?

eGremlin
eGremlin

@FastChef
HoW offered rerolls at banshee which meant anyone could get those g rolls though

and after rerolls were killed, TTK offered good vendor rolls, as well as arms day and that completely fixed the problem of rng rolls on good pvp and pve weapons

You could still hunt for the gear you wanted without being forced into a disadvantage. This should have been a lesson learned and implemented instead of thrown away

whereismyname
whereismyname

@SniperWish
the difficulty in this game is set to scale with the players, right? i was in a public event with a few lvl 25 and it was rather easier that i believed it would be.
There are very few difficult things in Destiny. We wouldn't want players who don't have a lot of time to play every day to feel alienated.

Flameblow
Flameblow

@FastChef
I'm pretty sure that "update" is coming with the other shit on the 12th. Where is will be broken, and instead just ensure you get your first exotic over and over or something equally shit.

Need_TLC
Need_TLC

@eGremlin
TTK offered good vendor rolls

That godlike 1KYS you could just buy off the Vanguard vendor

I miss it so much.

SomethingNew
SomethingNew

@FastChef
Dupe protection is coming in the New Year.

5mileys
5mileys

@SniperWish
warframe
old school shooter

idontknow
idontknow

@Methnerd
kys

haveahappyday
haveahappyday

@Nojokur
Anyone?

likme
likme

I know that VoC is the most popular Scout Rifle from D1, but I really miss my Fang of Ir Yut and Doom of Chelchis.

kizzmybutt
kizzmybutt

2 whole days
still don't have prometheus lens

Spamalot
Spamalot

@SniperWish
Buying expansions is mandatory to keep playing end game content.

Soft_member
Soft_member

@massdebater
what the fuck are you on about, light scaling was important if you honestly think
No it isn't. It kills the replay value. If I get everything and max light within 2 weeks whats the point playing anymore? This is the same fucking issue D2 has right now.
was a good thing unironically kill yourself
Wah wah wah some people are higher level than me. I was one of those forever 29 and I would never change that system for anything. There needs to be an elite class of players and if it's RNG based so be it. Where is my trophy for participation.
Seriously, kill yourself.

girlDog
girlDog

when is the new raid?

Emberfire
Emberfire

@kizzmybutt
Better hurry up before the nerf is out.

RumChicken
RumChicken

@Need_TLC
@eGremlin
Don't forget being given Conspiracy Theory-D, Nirwen's Mercy and Ironwreath from Saladin, that DO Scout Rifle

Vendors had plenty of great weapons that could compete with autismo grinders' weapons. The perks weren't gamebreaking.

Skullbone
Skullbone

@Emberburn
enjoyable strikes
this m8. playing dankblade for the first time was an experience i'll never forget
drop down into dark pit with buddies, can't see shit
eris in your ear 'the darkblade, he approaches', suddenly a radar blip
toss fusion nade to light the fucker up, not sure what to expect
silhouette of fuckhuge knight with a giant axe, now on fire, stalking towards us
fireteam unloads, but he disappears
swarmed by thrall as the music picks up
turned around, dont know where the center or walls are anymore
suddenly loud noise and radar lights up right on top of me
jump away in a panic while warlock buddy gets oneshot and boss disappears again

SomethingNew
SomethingNew

@girlDog
Tomorrow.

Gigastrength
Gigastrength

@girlDog
12th I believe.

Burnblaze
Burnblaze

@girlDog
no new raid in this expansion

Emberburn
Emberburn

@Emberfire
What is the most efficient way to farm exotics? public events?

Lord_Tryzalot
Lord_Tryzalot

@RumChicken
ironwreath

such a fucking work horse. Semi sidearm buff when?

viagrandad
viagrandad

@Skullbone
swarmed by thrall as the music picks up

Music made the fight legit
Shit was amazing

Flameblow
Flameblow

@Soft_member
no u
completing a raid is undeserving of the best gear the game has to offer
muh rng=skill
Fuck off retard, you're still probably upset about xur selling gjallahorn at the end of year 1 aren't you?

LuckyDusty
LuckyDusty

@likme
VoC
not MIDA Meta-Tool
Ahahahaha

I really liked my Chelchis too. Only used it in KF and Spindle Runs, but it was nice.
The Life Support perk was super comfy. Kinda bummed the Void version slapped it with the worthless Full Auto but, oh well.
Most people seemed to use Fatebringer more than VoC in VoG anyway.
I used Praedyth's.

askme
askme

@whereismyname
warframe is also like this at some point.

@5mileys
reading comprehension is hard

@Spamalot
if this is true then its ruled out for me. welp.

MPmaster
MPmaster

@Skullbone
this m8. playing dankblade for the first time was an experience i'll never forget
mfw killing other people's sword wardens for the first time, and every time after that

Carnalpleasure
Carnalpleasure

@Skullbone
tfw constantly reminding teammates not to underestimate the Thrall as Tarlowe did.
Such a comfy strike.

RumChicken
RumChicken

@Skullbone

Darkblade was fantastic. I REALLY wish that they'd reuse simple darkness as a boss mechanic again. It was so much fun. Hell, I enjoyed all of the strikes from TTK and RoI. D2 strikes are so bland it's insane, ESPECIALLY Exodus Black.

w8t4u
w8t4u

@Flameblow
I DESERVE TO BE LEVEL 30 TOO BECAUSE I PARTICIPATED IN THE RAID WAH WAH WAH
Why haven't you fucking killed yourself already?

haveahappyday
haveahappyday

@MPmaster
Fassbender-kun!

Spazyfool
Spazyfool

Is Xur going to start showing up in Mercury now?

iluvmen
iluvmen

@Flameblow
I am upset about xur selling ghorn at the end of year 1. Primarily because it was worthless till year 3,and then you had to do a quest to get it. Why even bother selling it at that point?

likme
likme

@Carnalpleasure
getting BTFO by Thrall
Eris's fireteam really sucked

CouchChiller
CouchChiller

@Spazyfool
if theres ever a mercury flashpoint

kizzmybutt
kizzmybutt

@RumChicken
turns invisible and runs around in circles for 20 seconds
nothin personnel kid

TechHater
TechHater

@RumChicken
I like Introverted Spire and Pygmalion.

Wretched Eye was an absolute dogshit strike from RoI. Can't believe anyone could like that shit. No, I don't believe it, you must've forgotten.

Stark_Naked
Stark_Naked

@w8t4u
the hardest pve challenge the game has to offer, designed for the purpose of giving end-game gear shouldn't give end game gear
A participation trophy would be getting 300 gear from anything outside of the raid, or let alone only getting through a single part then quitting the raid.
no u
Still no actual logic I see, sad really.

askme
askme

@TechHater
What was so difficult about storming an old military base to kill a boss? All you had to do was stay mobile instead of the usual camp with a sniper in the back.

Carnalpleasure
Carnalpleasure

@Stark_Naked
I DESERVE HIGHER GEAR JUST FOR DOING THE END GAME CONTENT

Go to amazon. Buy a helium tank, some tubes and a funnel. Put them together and kill yourself and bring any friends that think the same way. At this point the only way Destiny will get better is through you fanboys offing yourselves.

TurtleCat
TurtleCat

@TechHater
Wretched Eye was an absolute dogshit strike from RoI. Can't believe anyone could like that shit. No, I don't believe it, you must've forgotten.

With a Solar modifier it was fun and fairly quick. But god help you if you had void or arc modifiers.

JunkTop
JunkTop

@likme
That's what happens when you throw in with Toland.
hmm I wonder what happens if I go talk to this crazy bitch who can kill me with a whistle

Toland was retarded.

SniperWish
SniperWish

@Carnalpleasure
but isnt that the point of end game content? Higher level gear?

Illusionz
Illusionz

@Carnalpleasure
I should get 2 tokens and a blue for wasting hours of my life
fuck off luke smith

GoogleCat
GoogleCat

that one TTK mission where you retrieve shards of Crota's crystal and that ogre appears when you thought it was over

Ignoramus
Ignoramus

@SniperWish
Absolutely. But you shouldn't be guaranteed it just for trying.

Nojokur
Nojokur

@Spazyfool
It wouldn't surprise me
See guys, if you want to get to Xur, you need to buy our Expansion Pass. Save $5 on a $40 value*

Crazy_Nice
Crazy_Nice

@happy_sad
"The first Raid Lair is called Eater of Worlds, and it launches on Friday, December 8, at 10 AM PT / 1 PM ET / 6 PM GMT (5 AM AET on December 9). "

Deadlyinx
Deadlyinx

@Illusionz
I should get high level light gear every time I play so this game dies and becomes repetitive within 2 weeks

Kill yourself Datto

Techpill
Techpill

@askme
It wasn't hard, just obnoxious. Also randoms couldn't stay alive to save their hides.
It was just very unpleasant without coordination.
You'd either have to work too hard to carry, or just spend too much time grinding through the strikes. Oh well.

Sharpcharm
Sharpcharm

@Ignoramus
Completing a raid isn't trying, it's succeeding.

Nude_Bikergirl
Nude_Bikergirl

@Ignoramus
trying

yeh of course not

JunkTop
JunkTop

@likme
D1 at launch
only way to reach lvl 30 is to use all the same shit as all the other lvl 30s
no infusion
You kiddies have no idea how bad it really was

cum2soon
cum2soon

@Techpill
You'd either have to work too hard to carry, or just spend too much time grinding through the strikes. Oh well.
work hard to carry a strike
Destiny

JunkTop
JunkTop

@Sharpcharm
and again you don't get a reward just for trying autist.

@Nude_Bikergirl
Do you autists not realize you make no sense? You say D2 has no end game and the raids have shit rewards and you want a system where you are given everything good every time and thus after 2 weeks you won't have any reason to run raids. Why is everyone in this general so stupid?

Lord_Tryzalot
Lord_Tryzalot

@TechHater

Yes I liked wretched eye. It was spooky and the boss chamber demanded constant movement. It was different and difficult and I liked it.

DeathDog
DeathDog

@cum2soon
I guess I should've said put effort forth, which is technically harder than what you'd need to do with every other strike.

Fuzzy_Logic
Fuzzy_Logic

@Crazy_Nice
I wanna squeeze those big silicone heat sinks

Stupidasole
Stupidasole

@kizzmybutt
I had fun fighting him solo in the Sturm quest. He doesn't get melted in 2 seconds so he actually sticks around, and the invisible phases felt like the game was giving you much needed breathing room instead of just artificially dragging out the fight.

whereismyname
whereismyname

@JunkTop
tfw getting to 30 and helping out 29s in the raid
mfw a group starts calling me master destroyer as I effortlessly clear the minotaur room and wipes if I die

Firespawn
Firespawn

@JunkTop
There are other things that you can add to the game other than static guns. Like a horde mode.
Ffs, create endgame content.

LuckyDusty
LuckyDusty

@DeathDog
I can agree with that. Dumb fuckers always have a habit of standing and shooting or not seeing the fucking huge ogre. Unless you melt the boss, half of the time you're just running around and reviving dead fuckers.

PurpleCharger
PurpleCharger

new thread

/vg/thread/197960186#p197960186
/vg/thread/197960186#p197960186
/vg/thread/197960186#p197960186
/vg/thread/197960186#p197960186

Crazy_Nice
Crazy_Nice

@JunkTop
I missed something along the way, but Im saying you shouldnt get high level gear unless you successfully complete encounters in raids, or NF/PNF

I dont like the clan engram system as it is currently, but if reworked to NOT reward trials/raid gear as well as to not drop max level gear I'd be okay with it. Itd be nice to get something for being part of a clan, but raid/trials rewards just completely takes the value out of the activity itself

MPmaster
MPmaster

raid lair is so half baked they're not even going to be calling world's first
Anyone who doesn't see the imminent disaster is setting themselves up for disappointment

Garbage Can Lid
Garbage Can Lid

@Firespawn
and people won't do this unless there is a reason. If you are giving away good gear drops quickly there won't be a reason to. Like I ran the forge in ROI non stop till I hit top light level then there was no point.

farquit
farquit

@JunkTop
Almost everyone has their raid sets completed, both normal and prestige mode But that's it, nothing left to get because there is barely any gear in this fucking game.

Emberburn
Emberburn

@JunkTop
No one wants to run the same boring content over and over, when it's unlikely to help at all. Which is worse, no one running the raid cause everyone is max level, or no one running the raid cause it's boring unrewarding bullshit?

Fried_Sushi
Fried_Sushi

@LuckyDusty
Seriously.
It was bad in some other strikes, but this one really accentuated it.

CodeBuns
CodeBuns

@Garbage Can Lid
compare raid gear to participation trophies
but if a public event does it it's okay
fuck off retard, your argument is more fraudulent than the company creating this bullshit

Playboyize
Playboyize

@Crazy_Nice
I am saying you shouldn't be guaranteed to get better gear just for finishing or trying. If you do, you will hit max light level by week 2 and have nothing to strive for.

I don't understand you people I really don't. Everyone has fond memories of D1 because of the hours they put in when that higher light level armor piece finally popped out or that Gjallarhorn finally dropped after hour 80. You all forgot what made vanilla and everything else up to the end of TTK special.

girlDog
girlDog

@CodeBuns
No I actually hated that aspect of the forge because thats when smart loot was active. I am telling you how that activity became pointless after I got top level gear which is my point you dumb autistic fuck.

w8t4u
w8t4u

@Playboyize
everyone
fuck back off to reddit, forever 29 was a slog and only made people grind for months when the game already had enough replayability without the grind.

ZeroReborn
ZeroReborn

@likme
I never understood why the Titans never had a bear head helmet the same way the Hunters have the wolf head
I would wear it 100% of the time regardless of the other armor pieces I have equipped

Methnerd
Methnerd

@w8t4u
she didn't just cheese atheon to 30 in a week

PackManBrainlure
PackManBrainlure

@w8t4u
forever 29 was a slog
I'm sorry you had shit RNG, but the everyone gets a trophy mentality you love so much is why D2 is utter shit. They have expanded that to every part of the game and everyone now can get every gear relatively quick even if you don't participate in the raid but are in a clan that does. Thank you for diluting and ruining this franchise you cancerous fuck.

Supergrass
Supergrass

Im at light 316 why are new exotics coming at 316 as well? Shouldn't they be at 321?

Playboyize
Playboyize

Hey yall, im new to Destiny, liking it so far, But I have a question. On the Destiny wiki, D1 weapons are named like (year 1), (year 2). How did that work? Did the weapons just get reworked?

Flameblow
Flameblow

@iluvmen
Not buying it week 2 from Xur

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