Final Fantasy General DCCLIV - /ffg/

iluvmen
iluvmen

Some real gay shit edition.

General Info on Final Fantasy
The Wiki: finalfantasy.wikia.com
What version should I play?: Information: http://pastebin.com/nDC7j5bn

FF Lost Stranger
http://www.crunchyroll.com/comics_read/manga?volume_id=1871

FF XI
https://wiki.dspt.info/index.php/DarkStar_Servers

FFXV
XV manga released in Japan
Episode Ignis to be released in December; Trailer: https://youtu.be/_sRPZzWeric
Brotherhood episodes: http://pastebin.com/Q7Efb9F2
Final Fantasy XV Comrades Out Now
New XV Universe trailer: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S2FyFrt9vZM
TEKKEN 7 - Noctis Lucis Caelum Reveal Trailer https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LmWbiMwxmOU

DFF NT
PS4 release date scheduled for Jan 30 2018, Pre-Orders available now.
https://store.na.square-enix.com/product/445809/dissidia-final-fantasy-nt-steelbook-brawler-edition-ps4
Latest Trailer: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rAuZpnv8QzU

King's Knight
Available now, check your app store for details.

Final Fantasy Record Keeper
Game Mechanics PDF: http://happypluto.com/~misterp/r/ffrk.pdf
Upcoming Banners List: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1e1xUGHH-OBdlM0QzWoME4GRJt9v3ocQmdmylI62hwFk/
Mote tracker: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1Wxq-3qvu7wgmEWGyGiXXTKIX5tKulOoWyQmnxOwzalE/
Friend Codes: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/11vnPui7vWmEcky7XK5XFMf6TWCIDWIOBJykStFwR5KE
FAQ Pastebin: https://pastebin.com/TKKGu1qB

Final Fantasy Brave Exvius
How to JP: http://pastebin.com/91MEQ6wW
GL FAQ: http://pastebin.com/c43qGvi6
Friend Codes: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1vqMFkPjm0cbnxR37U8ATXZEgRPspHSR8UyeCFkTEq10

MOBIUS Final Fantasy
FAQ Pastebin: http://pastebin.com/nGC6BJ84

Other game information
http://pastebin.com/xMVaH4Hv

Previous thread: /vg/thread/198483394#p198483394

All urls found in this thread:
http://pastebin.com/nDC7j5bn
http://www.crunchyroll.com/comics_read/manga?volume_id=1871
https://wiki.dspt.info/index.php/DarkStar_Servers
https://youtu.be/_sRPZzWeric
http://pastebin.com/Q7Efb9F2
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S2FyFrt9vZM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LmWbiMwxmOU
https://store.na.square-enix.com/product/445809/dissidia-final-fantasy-nt-steelbook-brawler-edition-ps4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rAuZpnv8QzU
http://happypluto.com/~misterp/r/ffrk.pdf
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1e1xUGHH-OBdlM0QzWoME4GRJt9v3ocQmdmylI62hwFk/
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1Wxq-3qvu7wgmEWGyGiXXTKIX5tKulOoWyQmnxOwzalE/
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/11vnPui7vWmEcky7XK5XFMf6TWCIDWIOBJykStFwR5KE
https://pastebin.com/TKKGu1qB
http://pastebin.com/91MEQ6wW
http://pastebin.com/c43qGvi6
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1vqMFkPjm0cbnxR37U8ATXZEgRPspHSR8UyeCFkTEq10
http://pastebin.com/nGC6BJ84
http://pastebin.com/xMVaH4Hv
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dsj-sxG1lTo
http://www.strawpoll.me/14612267
http://finalfantasy.wikia.com/wiki/Vayne_Carudas_Solidor
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LowVyLtz0Q0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=38O-Mxj9XJw
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WvXxWQqVXGk
http://erolns.blogspot.ca/2016/12/adolescent-adam-5-chapter-6-in-boys-bath.html
https://youtu.be/rN2VKJs-KvU?t=8
https://youtu.be/DKTYY3ucF7w?t=132
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ec-UZJLAQ9c
https://twitter.com/_danu17_/status/940915235354959872
https://ghostbin.com/paste/tsjzh
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=38O-Mxj9XJw
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dsj-sxG1lTo
Burnblaze
Burnblaze

Threadly reminder that Vayne Solidor did everything wrong.

cum2soon
cum2soon

Iggy is based.

MPmaster
MPmaster

@Carnalpleasure
Hi Enna!!

PackManBrainlure
PackManBrainlure

@cum2soon
He's a good man.

Garbage Can Lid
Garbage Can Lid

@MPmaster
You spelled her name right.

Firespawn
Firespawn

@Garbage Can Lid
I know!

VisualMaster
VisualMaster

Scoundrel dragon. Pays no child support, revives literal traitors, pretends to be a dead dude, uses authority that is not his and spreads lies. Is this the worst Bahamut yet?

Methnerd
Methnerd

@VisualMaster
but muh dark and ambiguous characters

CouchChiller
CouchChiller

@VisualMaster
Serious answer? Yes.

viagrandad
viagrandad

Daily: Fran
Free: Ingus

Raving_Cute
Raving_Cute

based iggy

SniperGod
SniperGod

@iluvmen
@cum2soon
@PackManBrainlure
@Raving_Cute
Former Noctisfag here, what is the quickest method of acquiring an Iggy?

BinaryMan
BinaryMan

@VisualMaster
Better than X's bara peacock gay pride Bahamut, but that's not saying much

Lunatick
Lunatick

@BinaryMan
But X's Bahamut was awesome.

lostmypassword
lostmypassword

@viagrandad
Daily: Guromu
Free: Tellah

WebTool
WebTool

daily noctis
free reberta

7* fodder I guess

happy_sad
happy_sad

@SniperGod
1. Don't be Prompto
2. Be a young prince
3. Ask for a young retainer
4. Be somewhat flippant to said retainer for years
5. Stockholm Syndrome retainer into caring about you deeply
6. ???
7. Profit

Inmate
Inmate

@SniperGod
You use the same method that you use to go to Balamb

Fuzzy_Logic
Fuzzy_Logic

@Inmate
You're obligated to post the copypasta now.

Spazyfool
Spazyfool

@Lunatick
King of dragons? More like king of homos. Worst fucking Bahamut.

Supergrass
Supergrass

Oh cool

Stark_Naked
Stark_Naked

@VisualMaster
That's not a dragon, that's a guy in armor with a dragon head. Just as shit as FFX Bahamut. There hasn't been a proper Bahamut since I think IX.

TreeEater
TreeEater

@Stark_Naked
XIV has a proper Bahamut, though its proportions are a bit wonky.

BunnyJinx
BunnyJinx

@happy_sad
thanks doc

Supergrass
Supergrass

@TreeEater
though its proportions are a bit wonky
Yeah I'll fucking say they are.

Emberburn
Emberburn

@Inmate
thanks....doc post the copypasta

WebTool
WebTool

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dsj-sxG1lTo

BlogWobbles
BlogWobbles

@Supergrass
(You)

JunkTop
JunkTop

Is Cloud already on extickets pool now?

WebTool
WebTool

@JunkTop
Yeah maybe
You can check

Emberburn
Emberburn

@WebTool
lmao! 2cat!!1

Soft_member
Soft_member

I'm a hardcore FF8 fan, so many times I would even try to escape reality with lucid dreaming, I would be in Balamb Garden where I would often train with Zell in the training center and help Selphie with the Garden Festival, but one day as I was talking to Selphie, we went to my dormitory for a private talk. She immediately said, "You know you could live with us forever.." I gave her a confused look and she continued, "We understand that you live on earth and you REALLY wish to live here". I then said "How..How did you know?" She then giggled and said "Because we've been watching you, silly!"
This was a dream come true and I almost cried right there. She then said, "I talked with Headmaster Cid and he agreed that you would be PERFECT for SeeD, you just have to do...one thing". She then held my hand and looked deep into my eyes and said "...You have to kill yourself for the transfer to work correctly." I then gave her some questions, "How long do I have before the deal expires?" She then said "Cid said 3 months.." I added by saying "What's the most painless way?..." She giggled again, "Suicide will require pain buuut...if you want it quick...Get a gun and a nice shot to the head works.
I then agreed and she gave me a kiss on the forehead, "I know this will be tough but once it's over and done, you'll get to live here!" I then woke up and this was last week and i purchased a gun. I might actually kill myself because that dream just felt too real to be fake and my life isn't doing so grand.

girlDog
girlDog

Is it gay that I want to give Ignis a big ole' bear hug?

Gigastrength
Gigastrength

@WebTool
Squall doing some colonising
Now that's a step up from Rinoa.

New_Cliche
New_Cliche

@VisualMaster
Nah he's cool

massdebater
massdebater

@girlDog
No

LuckyDusty
LuckyDusty

@girlDog
Yes

ZeroReborn
ZeroReborn

@girlDog
Not at all.

Fuzzy_Logic
Fuzzy_Logic

@Stark_Naked
XV Bahamut has a dragon form just like Shiva can transform too

Boy_vs_Girl
Boy_vs_Girl

Why is Ifrit the only god who actually cared about his creations?
Shiva: Initially gave no fucks.
Leviathan: Queen cuck. Hates and wants to eat them all.
Titan: Too busy holding a rock.
Ramuh: Massive moralfag. If you do stuff he doesn't like he smites you with lightning.
Bahamut: Greek style god king cunt. Lives up to his name of god of war. Uses "muh humanity" as an excuse to wipe out all the Lucians. Doesn't actually give a fuck, just wants sleep and sacrifices.

PackManBrainlure
PackManBrainlure

THAT NEW FINA ICON

Emberburn
Emberburn

@Boy_vs_Girl
Ifrit gets rightfully pissed
somehow he's the bad guy

Sharpcharm
Sharpcharm

@Boy_vs_Girl
Better question is why is he naked? Why is the second to last boss you have to defeat a giant naked guy?

Soft_member
Soft_member

@Sharpcharm
because FFXV is a very gay game

Evilember
Evilember

@Sharpcharm
Scoundrel dragon tore him to bits 2000+ years ago. He used to have actual robes.

Nude_Bikergirl
Nude_Bikergirl

@Sharpcharm
Ardyn didn't give him time to get dressed.

Emberfire
Emberfire

STOP DISCUSSING FINAL FANTASY

Emberburn
Emberburn

@Sharpcharm
You know why.

SniperWish
SniperWish

Everything in the main menu is christmas related

based gumi

TreeEater
TreeEater

data retrieval
server busy
B-based Gumi

BlogWobbles
BlogWobbles

@Soft_member
lucid dreaming
lol

Carnalpleasure
Carnalpleasure

R E M I N D E R

happy_sad
happy_sad

Fire Veritas from free daily
Can the fucker fit in two hits of his capping move within a DV/Orlandeau chain or does he have a slow ass animation like DKC? Don't know if I should farm Fixed Dice.

haveahappyday
haveahappyday

@Emberfire
this but unironically

Supergrass
Supergrass

If it's even possible, how do I make it so my normal hits break 9999 like my ability cards?

PackManBrainlure
PackManBrainlure

@Supergrass
by playing a job with damage limit break for auto attacks

SniperGod
SniperGod

BE JP got into emergency maint because players were sent a bunch of STMRs
L M A O

Stark_Naked
Stark_Naked

JP

RavySnake
RavySnake

@PackManBrainlure
Hmmm, I wouldnt mind playing a job that only used buff cards and basic attacks.

lostmypassword
lostmypassword

@TreeEater
go to google/apple/amazon store ane download update.

Techpill
Techpill

@happy_sad
Farm Fixed dice, he always does more damage with fixed dice than dual wielding any axe in the game.

likme
likme

Threadly reminder that Vayne Solidor did nothing wrong.

@Burnblaze
No user, he did nothing wrong. What do you think that he did otherwise?

Ignoramus
Ignoramus

Curious has there been any kind of petition to get SE to remove the tribal biceps tattoos on WoL? That shits gay af

LuckyDusty
LuckyDusty

@Ignoramus
what, does Wol make you feel insecure about your sexuality?

likme
likme

@LuckyDusty
Not really otherwise I'd say he has beautiful hair.
It's just 2017 and tribal tats really?.jpeg

Fried_Sushi
Fried_Sushi

@Stark_Naked
There hasn't been a proper Bahamut since I think IX.

But that's wrong.

iluvmen
iluvmen

I've been on a cycle of watching the Episode Ignis cutscenes, crying, feeling bad for an hour, forgetting about it, watching it again, crying, feeling bad for another hour, and doing it all over again. Help.

cum2soon
cum2soon

So, it seems JPRK is getting a Return button(basically, in-game S/L, without actually exiting the game) next week. That's neat, I guess.

Firespawn
Firespawn

How much will I hate myself if I solo DPS Bloody Moon with a friend T.Terra?

StrangeWizard
StrangeWizard

@iluvmen
High estrogen levels. Reduce your soy intake and start lifting.

Ignoramus
Ignoramus

looking through the revamped mote dungeon bosses out of curiosity
dex and vit motes are the most needed ones, usually
dex motes's boss is 200% weak to lightning
vit motes's boss is 200% weak to fire
they're among my strongest elements
mfw

Can't believe we're only a week away from new dailies, and two weeks from farmable 4* motes.

PackManBrainlure
PackManBrainlure

pull a free summon
its a gold
Gaffgarion

TurtleCat
TurtleCat

@StrangeWizard
/pol/

CouchChiller
CouchChiller

@StrangeWizard
Don't forget to drink onion juice for test, /b/ro! Wubbalubbadubdub!

PurpleCharger
PurpleCharger

@PackManBrainlure
tfw not a single Gaffgarion or Desch
I am stuck with Champion's Belts and/or Loren/Lasswell insignias. Send help.

PackManBrainlure
PackManBrainlure

@PurpleCharger
You're set for OK. You do have him, right user?

GoogleCat
GoogleCat

@likme
And what did he do right?

Fuzzy_Logic
Fuzzy_Logic

@PackManBrainlure
I wish. I have to settle for a Tidus with Aigaion's fist due to those shitty champion belts. At least my Fryevia is coming along nicely. Fuck, not having Genji Gloves is suffering.

Emberburn
Emberburn

@Fuzzy_Logic
Pull TDH and you can use Fixed Dice on him.

viagrandad
viagrandad

@Emberburn
Yeah, I'm hoping for a Cloud too since I already have multiple dupe Tidus. Fuck triplecasting.

haveahappyday
haveahappyday

@StrangeWizard
I'll just eat Cup Noodle instead.

DeathDog
DeathDog

@GoogleCat
Everything user, we've been through this before.

eGremlin
eGremlin

Vaynefag actually dares show his face here after the verbal smackdown he received last night
why won't he just go away?

Stark_Naked
Stark_Naked

@Emberburn
Isn't TDH Brotherhood also pretty good?

Raving_Cute
Raving_Cute

I'm going to play the PSP FFT, any tips?

Booteefool
Booteefool

Ice bird is coming
I hope you fags start farming dem Samurai Fire Katanas

RumChicken
RumChicken

@Raving_Cute
use multiple save slots

happy_sad
happy_sad

@Raving_Cute
Download the slowndown fix first

StonedTime
StonedTime

@Raving_Cute
Keep your charger on hand

girlDog
girlDog

@Fuzzy_Logic
By my calculations, you don't need a genji glove to get 1k+ attack. You just need two fryevias.

Burnblaze
Burnblaze

We need some consensus here

http://www.strawpoll.me/14612267

StrangeWizard
StrangeWizard

@Burnblaze
I'm an XVfag, what did Vayne do?

CouchChiller
CouchChiller

@eGremlin
One person pulling things out of nowhere and extrapolating from them is a smackdown
I will admit that he was better than the normal inane shitposter that spews nothing for hours, as at least what he was saying somewhat made sense if you could take his incorrect and baseless interpretations as true (you couldn't, and I'm still trying to figure out how he got that so wrong, honestly, unless he actually didn't play the game and just watched disconnected snippets of LPs or something).

@Burnblaze
(You) finally got a new poll, which I guess would be cause for celebration normally but this is even more off the mark than the last. The True Hero does no such things, he is not a degenerate.

@StrangeWizard
Saved Ivalice for one thing, and was a massive help to Archadia in many other ways.

StrangeWizard
StrangeWizard

@girlDog
I actually managed to get 1001 MAG on my Fryevia since I got a dupe recently. If you're actually saying that two Frys will help with Tidus' ATK (which I assumed you mean with attack but it might just as well what you call a general offensive stat) then I don't know how the fuck this is going to work.

Nojokur
Nojokur

@StrangeWizard
Everything right.

farquit
farquit

@SniperGod
how does this even happen.
will there be a rollback or people are going to walk away with like 34 rainbows worth of STMRs? this is way more damaging than the 5000 lapis the hackerman gave us

cum2soon
cum2soon

@CouchChiller
Vayne kind of looks like Ignis in the face. Is he a good man like Ignis?

DeathDog
DeathDog

@CouchChiller
He was right, you know.

viagrandad
viagrandad

Nobody fucking tell the XVfags about Vayne. I swear to fucking christ do NOT tell them of this shithead and his obnoxious fag.

cum2soon
cum2soon

@cum2soon
Vayne is a power hungry, scheming little faggot who got rightfully slain by the True Hero, Ashe, and her allies.

TalkBomber
TalkBomber

@viagrandad
TELL ME

@cum2soon
But what did he do that was so wrong?

hairygrape
hairygrape

@TalkBomber
Animal rape, with larsa

TreeEater
TreeEater

@TalkBomber
@StrangeWizard
go be a newfag somewhere else

Methshot
Methshot

@TalkBomber
read the last thread where Vaynefag got BTFO

Nude_Bikergirl
Nude_Bikergirl

@hairygrape
Sounds hot.

@TreeEater
Not a newfag, just never cared enough to see the deets.

@Methshot
Gotcha

Nojokur
Nojokur

@Methshot
I will wait for a tl;dr or a cap, don't feel like reading 800 posts

TreeEater
TreeEater

@farquit
want to send pack of items to developers/testers
accidentally fuck up the group ID or whatever
now everyone has it

It's not too weird considering how incompetent they seemed to be in the recent months. And they'll never, ever let people keep that shit. 5000 lapis is fucking nothing, hell, they could probably just adjust it so that the next pull for everyone only contains trash.

Booteefool
Booteefool

@Nojokur
You don't need to read every post in the thread, brainlet.

ZeroReborn
ZeroReborn

@Nojokur
http://finalfantasy.wikia.com/wiki/Vayne_Carudas_Solidor

Spamalot
Spamalot

@ZeroReborn
27 years old,

Why is every FF character a fucking kid

CodeBuns
CodeBuns

@Spamalot
you got that the wrong way around user, Vayne is fucking a kid, not a fucking kid.

viagrandad
viagrandad

Y'shtola is cute!

haveahappyday
haveahappyday

Half-price triple Holiday Lucky Draws: Healer BSB, Burst Soul Breaks (unknown if BSB only or BSB & higher), and 6* relics

Snarelure
Snarelure

@viagrandad
Whatever...

TalkBomber
TalkBomber

@viagrandad
Guy who always complains about every free pull this game has ever given out giving him nothing but shit. This reformed from blue, let's see what we've got!

Spamalot
Spamalot

@TalkBomber
kelsus

massdebater
massdebater

@TalkBomber
Enjoy your Lightning user.

Harmless_Venom
Harmless_Venom

@viagrandad
Can't wait to play her.

SniperWish
SniperWish

I don't know what I expected. This is my first one, maybe I'll be "blessed" with another some day.
@Spamalot
Funny thing is, I clicked on the Kelsus summon first, noticed I could pull one, but decided to back out and do my free summon.
@massdebater
I actually got Lightning from the free summon once, that was the first free rainbow I got and this is the second.

GoogleCat
GoogleCat

@Harmless_Venom
Calm down, Squall

Stupidasole
Stupidasole

@haveahappyday
neat.

Raving_Cute
Raving_Cute

@SniperWish
Queen
Kek, almost as good.

Actually Lightning would have been better, at least you'd be set up for 7*.

Flameblow
Flameblow

@Raving_Cute
Yup. I must scream my old refrain at the heavens.
FREE PULLS ARE ALWAYS, ALWAYS SHIT!

SniperWish
SniperWish

@cum2soon
He is a very good man, better than ignis though in different worlds and situations.
Also I don't see the comparison very well; I suppose if you had to choose one of the chocobros that he is most facially similar to then it would be ignis, but the similarities aren't very striking.

@DeathDog
He wasn't though, at all. Even the rest of the context from the same scene didn't support his strange claims, much less context from the rest of the game and supporting material.

@viagrandad
The True Hero is not a "shithead", in fact he is the furthest thing from one in the entire game.

@cum2soon
He is none of those things and Ashe is none of what you claim either. He never desires power for it's own sake, is not degenerate, and all of his actions serve good purpose. His death was illogical and a tragedy for Ivalice.
Ashe may be a hero in her own mind but is so nowhere else, she did nothing heroic at all and logically made things worse for everyone in the long run, including even herself.

@TalkBomber
He did nothing wrong user, they just can't recognize the worth of the True Hero or are shitposting for fun's sake.
Play XII and you can see firsthand his heroism, and it's a great game besides.

@hairygrape
He did no such thing, he is not a degenerate. Do not imply lewd, baseless and completely incorrect things regarding the True Hero.

@Methshot
Again, some strange user pulling strange and baseless theories out of nowhere and arguing based on them alone can not be said to have won anything. None of his claims we're based in actual lore and fall apart quickly once looked at.

@ZeroReborn
Blue eyes
REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
I'm inclined to disregard everything on that page because the editor is clearly blind or disabled in some way.

@CodeBuns
No, he is not ab degenerate, much less one of the worst kinds; do not imply otherwise.

Snarelure
Snarelure

@SniperWish
His claims only fall apart if you're a delusional faggot who twists everything to fit the narrative that Vayne cannot possibly do anything wrong. Plus, he also probably fucks Larsa.

massdebater
massdebater

@Snarelure
no he doesn't

lostmypassword
lostmypassword

@massdebater
I disagree

farquit
farquit

@haveahappyday
@Stupidasole
This is most likely the only pre-fest lucky I'll pull from, I'll have better chances of getting what I want if I wait for them.

Nojokur
Nojokur

Today Mobius is giving me a notice about some "limited-time components" that are going to be deleted from my inventory in 1 day. The fuck?

Raving_Cute
Raving_Cute

@Nojokur
The 4* and 5* multiplayer components with the fucking picture of a clock on them dumbass. They get converted to quartz if you don't spend them.

Carnalpleasure
Carnalpleasure

@Raving_Cute
Sorry, I'm new. Why don't they let you keep the components for when the sicarius comes back? Unless these bosses never return, idk. By quartz do you mean magicite?

Stark_Naked
Stark_Naked

@Carnalpleasure
You dumb nigger. You know how every sicarius drops an item called (sicarius name goes here) Quartz? Yeah, that quartz.

CodeBuns
CodeBuns

@Snarelure
No, those claims fell apart the second you look at the single line from a single scene that he was referencing in a manner that isn't a pure vacuum. When all the context is looked at, even from just within that one scene, it falls apart. In a vacuum it was an interesting interpretation, but it doesn't hold up outside of one.
And the True Hero is not a degenerate at all, much less one of the worst kinds; he does no such thing.

likme
likme

@CodeBuns
True Hero? More like True Traitor.

RavySnake
RavySnake

Have you used your autism for good today, /ffg/?

StonedTime
StonedTime

@Stark_Naked
Ohhh, that quartz. I would've never expected some components of a boss to disappear while others belonging to the same boss (their quartz) to stay. Strange system.

Snarelure
Snarelure

@Raving_Cute
Isn't enhanced Queen pretty good though aside from retarded costs?

likme
likme

@haveahappyday
Trap stamp.

Firespawn
Firespawn

@RavySnake
why the fuck do you need a checklist for that
just open the world map and do whatever is "Cleared" instead of "Complete"

Spamalot
Spamalot

/vg/thread/198483394#p198531396
Glad to know it worked! I'm personally waiting to dive Shelke this sunday or monday before trying again; my own attempt was, while successful, too close for it to be comfortable, so I'll just fall for the meta meme.

Evilember
Evilember

@haveahappyday
Healer BSB
healer luckies always fuck me
only have 3 healer BSBs since I started playing before 2nd anniversary
one of those is from a select ie forcing the game to give me one
last healer lucky was the first BSB only one
went 1/11 dupe Penelo BSB (only had two BSBs at the time)
My luck has got to change sometime!

Stupidasole
Stupidasole

@Firespawn
Mostly just to see how much possible lapis I can obtain as well as seeing the lapis/NRG so I know what to prioritize

haveahappyday
haveahappyday

@Snarelure
If by 'enhanced queen' you mean 'queen 7*' then yes.

Flameblow
Flameblow

@RavySnake
I guess so, just added my one pull from pre-fest luckies.

Planning to catalogue my SBs either next week or tomorrow, depending on college.

Techpill
Techpill

@likme
No, he certainly is the True Hero, and was a traitor to no one. How are any of his actions supposed to be traitorous? He only helped his own in any definition of the term and did nothing to harm them, whether you define his own as being his family, his nation, or his world. His actions overwhelmingly brought good, and had he lived he would have only continued to further them.

Crazy_Nice
Crazy_Nice

@haveahappyday
@Evilember
It's not healer BSB, at best this will include BSB+.

Skullbone
Skullbone

bitches are complaining about Episode Ignis turning him into a """gary stu"""
Oh. Oh man. This is getting hilarious. I can't even begin to fathom how they arrived at that conclusion (probably because they're a shrieking Noctisfag with a stick up their ass) but it's hilarious nonetheless.

CodeBuns
CodeBuns

@Crazy_Nice
Easy skip. Healing is outdated.

WebTool
WebTool

@Crazy_Nice
@Crazy_Nice
@Stupidasole
Might as well post the other one now

TreeEater
TreeEater

@Techpill
how is treason traitorous
hmm, I wonder

Burnblaze
Burnblaze

@WebTool
Also an easy skip. Most Bursts are out of date.

takes2long
takes2long

@Crazy_Nice
BSB+
Uh oh. I already have Rosa's USB, 2 Eiko's USB, 3 Relm's USB, Yuna's USB and Penelo's USB, I'll probably get one of those or Y'shtola's USB instead of a BSB.

WebTool
WebTool

@CodeBuns
@Burnblaze
implying soul breaks aren't outdated either
not skipping fest in favor of more ability slots and stamina for dailies

Lord_Tryzalot
Lord_Tryzalot

@SniperGod
1. Nowhere did it say they aren't worthy.
2. Where are these accusations of being a Stu even coming from? Because he didn't die after getting the ring? Neither did Ravus. He isn't special.
3. God forbid they focus a DLC on a character your triggered blubbering ass hates for no conceivable reason.
4. "I'm not salty" Sure, Jan.
5. "without flaws" Oh okay, you hate him and call him a Stu because he has no major flaws. You do realize that even a supposedly flawless character still has flaws right? He most certainly does, it's just they're not center stage because of his role in the story. But here's a few for you anyway: Unnecessarily snarky at times, doesn't understand peoples' intentions (according to Tabata, though I'd argue this isn't true), his extreme dedication to Noctis (good or bad depending on how you look at it), and he's a stick in the mud at times. The reason these aren't shown in full blast is because they're simply not relevant to the story or to the plot. There's tons of characters in tons of series exactly like this, who have flaws, but they aren't on display. And that's fine. That doesn't make them Mary Sues/Gary Stus.
5. Cry more.

CouchChiller
CouchChiller

@Flameblow
If you haven’t added it yet, protect the espers should give 4 mythril fellow mythril planning user

Also, I’ll need to confirm it later but the revenge dungeons should give 12 mythril total, 6 when it opens and another 6 when the 2nd batch comes in ~2 days later, if that matters at all for you

ZeroReborn
ZeroReborn

@SniperGod
he's right you know.

Booteefool
Booteefool

@ZeroReborn
Hello, firebyfire.

StrangeWizard
StrangeWizard

@TreeEater
But none of his actions were treason user, how would they be? How did any of his actions harm his own?

Methnerd
Methnerd

@StrangeWizard
lol

BunnyJinx
BunnyJinx

@SniperGod
go to their blog
several pages of posts praising Ignis and gushing over him
suddenly "REEEEEEE IGNIS IS SHIT IGNIS A GARY STU REEEEEEEEEEEEEE"
Is this autism or multiple personality disorder?

@ZeroReborn
Not even close. @Lord_Tryzalot

Methshot
Methshot

@BunnyJinx
yes

Nude_Bikergirl
Nude_Bikergirl

@BunnyJinx
go to their blog
user, why would you do this to yourself?

WebTool
WebTool

@Skullbone
@SniperGod
Nigger who fucking gives a shit what some retarded tumblr cunt says? They're less than sub human

Harmless_Venom
Harmless_Venom

@Lord_Tryzalot
replying to tumblr posts with this wall of text
autism

PackManBrainlure
PackManBrainlure

@Nude_Bikergirl
Masochism is one hell of a drug.

Methshot
Methshot

@Stupidasole
6* Select
NANI

BunnyJinx
BunnyJinx

@Stupidasole
By select 6* guaranteed mean I can pick the one I want or what

LuckyDusty
LuckyDusty

@CouchChiller
Noice, I thought the rewards were going to be CT-like, as in, no mythril. What were the dates for those, again?

RumChicken
RumChicken

Iggy can be my Gary Stu!

Fuzzy_Logic
Fuzzy_Logic

@PackManBrainlure
I feel you, I play BE

Sharpcharm
Sharpcharm

@Fuzzy_Logic
he plays BE

Dreamworx
Dreamworx

@haveahappyday
I was talking about her ability awakenings, aren't the GL versions actually somewhat decent especially for someone who doesn't have the top tier in everything?

Illusionz
Illusionz

@Methshot
@BunnyJinx
curated list or probably stopping at a certain event

New_Cliche
New_Cliche

@Fuzzy_Logic
how have you been doing on rainbows since the 'rate increase'? i used to get a steady supply of 1 a month, now I have gone two months without.

RumChicken
RumChicken

@Methnerd
So you can't think of anything? Alright then, glad we can agree that he did nothing wrong and certainly nothing treasonous.

Soft_member
Soft_member

@RumChicken
stay delusional, cuck

5mileys
5mileys

@LuckyDusty
Revenge Dungeons: Dec 25th
Protect the Espers (easy mode, aka the one that gives mythril): Dec 27th
might also want to confirm how much mythril the MP anniversary actually gives

If that’s the mythril spreadsheet from a reddit guy then his dates tend to be a little off, fair warning, but maybe it’s not as bad as it was during the first extreme fest. I just started looking at JP’s happenings and updated it myself after a while

TalkBomber
TalkBomber

During my fight with Noct, it seems like Noct uses the ring on me. Ignis suffers constant damage and his body gets deformed. The only way to get back to normal and die is to use a Phoenix Down.

Here's a clip. How do I avoid becoming Slender Man?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LowVyLtz0Q0

Deadlyinx
Deadlyinx

@TalkBomber
10 years

PurpleCharger
PurpleCharger

@TalkBomber
Jesus, what the fuck is Noct's problem? Bros don't treat bros like that.

Methshot
Methshot

@TalkBomber
Embrace it. He's going beyond his power level.

PurpleCharger
PurpleCharger

@TalkBomber
I think that's quite enough, Noct.

King_Martha
King_Martha

@PurpleCharger
He's turned a sparring session into a downright attempt to annihilate him

Spamalot
Spamalot

@TalkBomber
is he ok?

Spamalot
Spamalot

@New_Cliche
I poured everything I had when it came to rare tickets and dailies into the Duke banner, got Duke and Olive. That and @SniperWish
are my rainbows so far from rate up. During 1% I pulled a bit more than one a month average if you count up all the ones I pulled (though there were months with none, and one was a Snow). I feel it's either about the same or, more likely, better now for me. I think the reason why I haven't seen more rainbows like the crazy double digit numbers some others have reported is because I haven't been pulling much other than that Duke banner, I'm trying to skip dailies now as often as I can and once Cloud's banner goes I'll be able to hoard tickets again.

viagrandad
viagrandad

@farquit
DIVERSITY
IS
OUR
STRENGTH

likme
likme

@5mileys
If that’s the mythril spreadsheet from a reddit guy then his dates tend to be a little off, fair warning

Yeah, noticed that already some time ago, and took the time to fix what we know.

Thanks for the dates anyway, I'll add them now.

As for MP anniversary, all I know so far is that there's a 5 mythril login gift.

cum2soon
cum2soon

@viagrandad
Middle is cute!

SniperWish
SniperWish

@TalkBomber
Is that the Ignis equivalent of this?

Boy_vs_Girl
Boy_vs_Girl

@SniperWish
Why is Noct such a dick

Emberfire
Emberfire

@Boy_vs_Girl
He doesn't know how to play nice.

Lord_Tryzalot
Lord_Tryzalot

@TalkBomber
Man, he's really passionate about not eating his veggies.

Fried_Sushi
Fried_Sushi

@Fuzzy_Logic
I thought RK was the game for masochists

Lord_Tryzalot
Lord_Tryzalot

@cum2soon
If you like goblins

Sharpcharm
Sharpcharm

@Fried_Sushi
but why

Sharpcharm
Sharpcharm

@Fried_Sushi
DELETE

TechHater
TechHater

@Soft_member
Delusion is the opposite of realising the worth of the True Hero user, and although that word does get thrown around so much that it could mean anything these days I do not see any way that it could be applied to me.

Stark_Naked
Stark_Naked

@Fried_Sushi
You are correct.
Which is why I play both.

TalkBomber
TalkBomber

The raid has entered its inescapable freefall now that all the strongest players have long since surpassed King Burst Pot.
Now for the mad dash to get as much as possible before the point bonus flatlines.

haveahappyday
haveahappyday

5* select tickets are in the mail
I think i'll hold onto mine until something I really want shoes up.

hairygrape
hairygrape

@TalkBomber
This reminds me of something I was gonna complain about. BE maintenance has got to be the worst maintenance of any game I play or have heard of, both in length and frequency. It's bad enough that it has to happen so often but what's worse is how it robs players of raid orbs during every single raid (and I guess arena orbs, but who really cares about those). A friend of mine plays FGO and when I told him about BE maintenance he was shocked and horrified. Apparently theirs is like half the time or less plus they get compensation for maintenance to make up for the game being inaccessible during that time.

Raving_Cute
Raving_Cute

@haveahappyday
shoes
welp

Supergrass
Supergrass

@Raving_Cute
It's okay, you tried your best!

Sharpcharm
Sharpcharm

@CodeBuns
What is this line? Was it the one where vayne denied in court to molesting larsa only for the camera to shift to larsa with tears streaming down his face?

Need_TLC
Need_TLC

@hairygrape
he was shocked and horrified
what kind of soyboy acts like this

StrangeWizard
StrangeWizard

TDH FD or TDH Brotherhood on Tidus?

w8t4u
w8t4u

@TechHater
Actually, that's exactly what makes you delusional.

Playboyize
Playboyize

@Sharpcharm
No such thing ever happened; do not imply lewd, baseless and completely incorrect things regarding Archadian pseudo-royalty.

Emberfire
Emberfire

@StrangeWizard
6* Fixed Dice
7* Brotherhood

Methshot
Methshot

@hairygrape
Were you shocked and appalled by their 3 quartz Christmas bonus?

Methshot
Methshot

I hope Gumi makes TDH not stack so I have to pull less 5*s.

Sir_Gallonhead
Sir_Gallonhead

@Emberfire
Doesn't want to eat veggies
Literally turns Ignis into a carrot

kizzmybutt
kizzmybutt

@Methshot
It doesn't. Elfreeda's will, though.

Soft_member
Soft_member

/vg/thread/198483394#p198560904
there isn't any talk of execution
THREADLY reminder that Vaynefraud is so balls deep in damage control that he thinks the senators here aren't talking about executing Vayne for treason.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=38O-Mxj9XJw

Just admit you forgot about this point. Otherwise why the fuck would he even need to dissolve the senate, numbnuts?
He was getting on fine with them until they put him on trial for treason. There's a reason he didn't just dissolve them in the first 12 minutes of the game.
Always remember the day it was revealed that the Vaynefraud is not the True Autistic. He even forgets major plot points.

A God died today. The God of Autism.

Deadlyinx
Deadlyinx

@CodeBuns
In a vacuum it was an interesting interpretation, but it doesn't hold up outside of one.
It's funny because that literally describes your Vayne=Hero truth stretching to a T.

Illusionz
Illusionz

@Methshot
They got a Christmas bonus? Where's our Christmas bonus?

Methshot
Methshot

@Sir_Gallonhead
literally turns Ignis into a vegetable
FTFY

likme
likme

@Methshot
I'm gonna blow your mind here but a carrot is a vegetable

Supergrass
Supergrass

@Soft_member
reading through his arguments last thread then watching this clip
Vaynefraud indeed. I see if Vayne isn't in a scene he just doesn't pay attention at all. What a faggot.

Dreamworx
Dreamworx

@likme
I mean a vegetable, not a vegetable.

Flameblow
Flameblow

@likme
You can't be this fucking stupid.
Who's says well he tried to kill himself and ended up a carrot?

SniperWish
SniperWish

@TalkBomber
It happened to me again. I was out of Phoenix Downs, and... Noct literally murdered Ignis. Ignis exploded into nothingness.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WvXxWQqVXGk

Firespawn
Firespawn

@SniperWish
this needs to be a webm so i can put it next to the one of gladio getting fucked

Emberfire
Emberfire

@TalkBomber
kek

JunkTop
JunkTop

@Emberfire
Why does he look like Steve from American Dad?

w8t4u
w8t4u

@BunnyJinx
Are they some kinda fujo? More importantly do they ship Prompto/Noctis or Iggy/Gladio? Because they might just be salty that Iggy/Noctis ended up getting the most canon homolusty scenes out of the main four, and a lot of other fujos get stupidly butthurt over that for some reason.

Sharpcharm
Sharpcharm

@w8t4u
They ship Noctis/Gladio out of all things.

idontknow
idontknow

Reminder that today is the last day the Gyshal Greens dungeon will be open.

New_Cliche
New_Cliche

@Sharpcharm
N/G P/I shippers are a lot rarer than P/N I/G or I/N P/G shippers, but I see they're capable of just as much absolute fucking stupidity I see. Maybe even more, relative to how popular the ship is.

JunkTop
JunkTop

@SniperWish
just turned his royal retainer into slenderman and then blasted him to the edges of space
over the mere thought of eating vegetables
says this afterwards
This is beyond murder.

@w8t4u
You didn't hear it from me but all the people I follow on tumblr, most of whom are Promptisfags or Promnisfags, were making jokes about Ignoct being canon now and taking it gracefully. Thank god. Not that I browse tumblr or know what it is. What's a tumblr? Is it a workout machine?

@New_Cliche
Generally with smaller ships the people are either collectively way nicer or way, way more cancerous. There's rarely an in between, because depending on how small it is they start to influence each other.

Gigastrength
Gigastrength

@Soft_member
Oh, and before Vaynefraud tries to pull a "muh loose translation" on this scene, I just so happen to have the Japanese script and am a class 1 DJT fag.

さてー
So then...
かつてヴェイン殿も 兄君らの過ちを断罪されたではありませんか
Lord Vayne's brothers' were also judged (in japanese this word also means DECAPITATED, it carries a connotation of execution), weren't they?
あの時は陛下のご命令でしたが
That was by Your Majesty's order.
ご安心ください グラミス陛下
Ease your mind, Lord Gramis.
われら元老院が支える以上アルケイディアは安泰です
As long as we The Senate support Archadia, there is peace.

Need_TLC
Need_TLC

@w8t4u
tfw i just want gay art with prompto because he's cute
all this shipping as if it were real life still creeps me out
why do chicks get so crazy? it's not real life it doesn't matter, they aren't written as gay.

Lord_Tryzalot
Lord_Tryzalot

@Supergrass
maybe Vaynefraud should take his own advice and play the game

Boy_vs_Girl
Boy_vs_Girl

Whatever XVI brings, it can't be more gay than XV.

Burnblaze
Burnblaze

@Boy_vs_Girl
It can definitely get more gay. Especially if it's a sequel to XV and involves the three remaining chocobros.

TechHater
TechHater

@Burnblaze
spoiler
That'd just be XV-2

Inmate
Inmate

@Boy_vs_Girl
Didn't you hear? The XVI logo is literally two guys making out

massdebater
massdebater

@TechHater
Shit you're right.

@Inmate
I thought it was a shot of the main character's balls hanging over the antagonist's mouth.

kizzmybutt
kizzmybutt

A MONTH for Alim to fix the dungeon they fucked up
Still fucked everything
At least we got a 100% tm moogle and they finally gave us the pick ticket. Too bad I'm waiting to see who'll be good in the future before I pick.

ZeroReborn
ZeroReborn

@Boy_vs_Girl
XV is the straightest FF

girlDog
girlDog

@ZeroReborn
It would be if it wasn't for pic related.

Spazyfool
Spazyfool

@Gigastrength
It's also interesting to see the kind of language they use.
陛下子息といえど厳正な処分を
"Even though he's the emperor's son, may he be tossed out/put down with impartiality."
処分 is literally the word they use to refer to putting down a puppy. It's primarily used in that context, it carries the connotation of euthanasia.

So if you have any doubt that the intent was execution, you're officially stupid. Now is the time to cut your losses and apologize.
Apologize to the god of autism.

farquit
farquit

@Flameblow
A carrot is still a vegetable.

Methnerd
Methnerd

@girlDog
literally the straightest character of any FF game

Garbage Can Lid
Garbage Can Lid

Is Ignis a little bit cross eyed? He looks like it in some photos.

RavySnake
RavySnake

@SniperWish
Noctis doesn't use any of his ring powers in Dissidia
Lame

BlogWobbles
BlogWobbles

@Gigastrength
@Spazyfool
being delusional
No, the True Hero did nothing wrong so there is no reason for anyone to want to harm him. What makes you think this isn't the case? These ideas are only interesting and can only make sense in a vacuum. I would like to know why you think this is the case. After all, the True Hero is not treasonous and did nothing wrong therefore the True Hero is not a Jew do not call him a Jew FUCK YOU TRUE HEROO REEEEEEEEEE!

CodeBuns
CodeBuns

@Methnerd
Yeah, his dong is pretty straight. Doesn't curve left or right.

5mileys
5mileys

@CodeBuns
DO NOT IMPLY LEWD THINGS REGARDING THE TRUE HERO. IT IS INCORRECT!!!

Boy_vs_Girl
Boy_vs_Girl

@5mileys
Er, Prompto isn't the true hero. He's a hero in my heart, but...

SniperGod
SniperGod

@Methnerd
@CodeBuns
tfw no straight twink bf
once you've spent long enough jerking it to traps, eventually you come full circle and start wanting feminine penis on female action.
prompto makes my dick diamonds.

Emberfire
Emberfire

@girlDog
Prompto hits on girls and obsesses over them all the time and gets selfies with them while literally chasing after Cindy.

Cloud gets into a hottub full of naked gay men and cross dresses and goes on a date with a black man.

Need_TLC
Need_TLC

@Boy_vs_Girl
Of course he isn't, only Vayne Solidor is THE TRUE HERO !! do not imply otherwise!!!!
implying I wanted to clear those magicite fights anyway
not true, the True NOT TRAITOR does not need magicite, save lapis for True Hero, BIS for True Hero! Efficient spending True Herooo!½!!

girlDog
girlDog

why does Ignis get to be more important than the other bros

Nojokur
Nojokur

@girlDog
because he's the best one

Evilember
Evilember

@Emberfire
You got me there.

@Need_TLC
Vaynefag, are you alright?

@girlDog
He doesn't. He and Prompto are treated as about equally important though Prompto is slightly moreso. Poor Gladio got completely shafted, however.

VisualMaster
VisualMaster

@JunkTop
You didn't hear it from me but all the people I follow on tumblr, most of whom are Promptisfags or Promnisfags, were making jokes about Ignoct being canon now and taking it gracefully. Thank god. Not that I browse tumblr or know what it is. What's a tumblr? Is it a workout machine?
I've been trying to work out what you mean by this for the last five minutes and I still don't understand.

Lord_Tryzalot
Lord_Tryzalot

@VisualMaster
Lurk more newfag

likme
likme

I just pulled neo exdeath, i assume this is danker than blade beal for S1C.

GoogleCat
GoogleCat

@girlDog
He had the best design from day one and is the most popular bro by far. Of course he's going to get the best material.

Lunatick
Lunatick

@GoogleCat
day one
you mean Gackto?

Booteefool
Booteefool

@GoogleCat
most popular bro
That's still Noctis in all polls except one. He and Prompto are usually dueling it out for second place.

Spazyfool
Spazyfool

@Lunatick
that face
God it's so punchable. So happy they changed it.

viagrandad
viagrandad

@Lunatick
Ignis's design has changed the least since his 2008 reveal.

Gigastrength
Gigastrength

@likme
Holy shit, you lucky bastard! Yeah, use it as your new dark aoe and enjoy the supreme life.

Carnalpleasure
Carnalpleasure

They added Nyx and some other Glaives faces to the character creator in comrades, it's on JP PS plus

idontknow
idontknow

@Lunatick
don't bully proto Prompto

New_Cliche
New_Cliche

@idontknow
He looks like a raging cunt there.

WebTool
WebTool

@idontknow
Apparently they said the reason they changed his hair/face was because Japan complained

whereismyname
whereismyname

@WebTool
He does look like he's wearing a wig on the left. Much bitchier face too. And his backstory was still different then, wasn't it?

askme
askme

@iluvmen
Did someone say gay?

StonedTime
StonedTime

@whereismyname
The only thing we knew about Prompto up to 2013 was that he was a more recent friend of Noctis who is fond of women and is a moodmaker, so same description as he currently has.

JunkTop
JunkTop

@askme
that
gay
Oh yeah? TRY THIS!

Need_TLC
Need_TLC

Elfried's TMR stacks
Cloud's doesn't
Pretty much what I expected, could've been worse.

idontknow
idontknow

@JunkTop
That same scene, he blows him and swallows.

Sharpcharm
Sharpcharm

@StonedTime
as he currently has
Ehh, it went from "he gets the ladies" to "he's a spaghetti spilling blubbering mess". Definitely still a moodmaker. "Bad influence" part has also been done and away with.

happy_sad
happy_sad

So, just played Episode Ignis. God he's fun to control. I mainly want to talk about the extra episode tacked on after you beat normal mode. Why did he take the ring with him to Nifelheim? Why didn't ardyn just use the ring himself if he wanted revenge on the crystal? How did Ignis not die after the fight with Ardyn?

cum2soon
cum2soon

@Need_TLC
desu couldn't have been better.
Only whales would complain about less 5*s to pull.

TreeEater
TreeEater

@JunkTop
Is it as gay as http://erolns.blogspot.ca/2016/12/adolescent-adam-5-chapter-6-in-boys-bath.html?

CouchChiller
CouchChiller

@Need_TLC
This banner is a hot mess, honestly. There's no reason to pull hard for the TMRs since finishers are a meme and TDH got gutted as expected. Only reason to pull is if you really want 1 Cloud for your nostalgic reasons

Nojokur
Nojokur

@happy_sad
To protect it, Ardyn can't use the ring, if you mean in the alternate ending Noctis bargained with the crystal to save Iggy.

@TreeEater
I ain't clicking that shit, nigga.

Flameblow
Flameblow

@CouchChiller
TDH is BiS for a lot of chainers in the 7* meta if you want to look that far ahead.

happy_sad
happy_sad

@Flameblow
for a lot of chainers
Tidus and Squall?

Evilember
Evilember

@Nojokur
But the very final scene, they're both alive, and the light has come back to the world. Did they just pull a fast one on the crystal?

JunkTop
JunkTop

Beatrix and Steiner banner next month, with no forced donuts, who here CautiouslyHypeAsFuck?

Harmless_Venom
Harmless_Venom

missed out on the $20 deal
FUCK

Poker_Star
Poker_Star

@Evilember
I don't fully understand it myself, sorry user. From what others are saying, Noctis presumably bartered with the crystal to seal Ardyn away for another 2000 years or so so he could live with his bromodachis in peace. Basically he pushed the burden of death onto one of his descendants.

Nude_Bikergirl
Nude_Bikergirl

@Evilember
He doesn't. He and Prompto are treated as about equally important though Prompto is slightly moreso.
Nah. It was always Iggy who gets the most plot focus. Iggy was standing near Noctis in that one early trailer, Iggy is the one who's always portrayed as closer to Noctis and willing to do anything for him. And according to that one set of leaks about Versus XIII Gladio and Prompto were supposed to be traitors who would die in the first and second games before getting replaced and Iggy was the one you could always count on to be loyal to the end of the series.

likme
likme

@Harmless_Venom
what?

Carnalpleasure
Carnalpleasure

@Sharpcharm
He still is a bad influence and he never got any ladies before, much like Brock in pokemon he hits on, flirts with and chases after them.

Skullbone
Skullbone

@Nude_Bikergirl
most plot focus
your only argument is trailers and plot points now void
Uh huh. Prompto most definitely is the one who gets the most focus aside from Noctis. Most lines most whining, bigger and much longer plot point of having to rescue him.

happy_sad
happy_sad

@likme
fuck u

Booteefool
Booteefool

@Carnalpleasure
still a bad influence
Literally how? If you mean that gif they had a short school day from exams (this is literally said in the episode) and Gladio didn't know so he got triggered. Prompto gets Noct's lazy ass up in the morning to have fun and he sets a good example by not bitching about vegetables. He tries to get Noctis out of his shell, too. He is most definitely a (mildly) good influence.

Carnalpleasure
Carnalpleasure

@Harmless_Venom
where/what game? Fountain of lapis is still up for me

Ignoramus
Ignoramus

@Evilember
Noctis basically pressed snooze on the prophecy, so one of Noctis's descendants would have to deal with Ardyn once a new chosen king is chosen, he was basically sent to the beyond and needs another 2000 years to build up a new starscourge

Gigastrength
Gigastrength

@Poker_Star
@Ignoramus
And where do you get that info from?

Dreamworx
Dreamworx

@Carnalpleasure
Can't be that since the fountain deal is 7 dollars.

BlogWobbles
BlogWobbles

@Ignoramus
king after king keeps pressing snooze on the Ardyn clock
20,000 years have passed and Ardyn still hasn't died
This is getting cruel.

@Gigastrength
People who paid more attention to the cosmogony I suppose. Or he could've just asspulled his way into beating the prophecy and killing Ardyn while getting Iggy's vision back and not dying himself.

CouchChiller
CouchChiller

@JunkTop
I'm not going to pull on that banner but you've got me thinking. Once Cloud is gone and now that a magic tank has been released, what big, almost universally anticipated banners are left for the future?

iluvmen
iluvmen

@Carnalpleasure
the XV digital premium thingy

SniperWish
SniperWish

@BlogWobbles
Why not just snooze it forever? Or just keep this asshole sealed forever in this case? Or just alterna his soul and send it wherever the monsters go when you do that.

Deadlyinx
Deadlyinx

@Booteefool
You misunderstand, he's a bad influence in relation to Noctis's royal duties as Noctis got invested in vidya, cutting class, sneaking out at night, hence why Ignis is always trying to straighten Noctis out

Spamalot
Spamalot

@Poker_Star
I don't remember seeing anything like that, he just asked the Crystal what he needed to do for the Crystal to save Ignis, and went inside. He still went inside for 10 years and the World of Ruin shit all still happened, and I assume he banished Ardyn just like in the normal ending, so it's not like the nature of the Crystal sleep changed or anything.
But Noctis gets to live this time for some reason, which I don't think they explained and the best answer I can guess for it is that since Iggy was noble enough to sacrifice his own entire life to the ring that Noctis was able to split the difference and come back at the expense of both their natural lifespans being cut in half.

askme
askme

@CouchChiller
Basch will powercreep tanks
Sephiroth, Lyla and that's all I guess.

haveahappyday
haveahappyday

@Deadlyinx
Noctis got invested in vidya, cutting class, sneaking out at night
Didn't he do that as a kid?

TalkBomber
TalkBomber

@SniperWish
Because that's too cruel. Ardyn REALLY wants to die. Let him rest goddammit.

@Deadlyinx
implying getting invested in vidya is bad
Iggy plays king's knight too. Noctis is allowed to have hobbies. And nowhere does it say he was cutting class, or that it was Prompto's fault. Noctis was sneaking out long before he met Prompto, in case you forgot. WITH Ignis, no less.

Therefore, Prompto is a good boy and not a bad influence. The only bad thing he does is drunk drive, but according to Tabata that's because Gladio of all people forces him into it.

Inmate
Inmate

@haveahappyday
Yeah in Episode Duscae they said he and Ignis used to sneak out of the Citadel all the time as children to hang out in the fields and watch the stars. Not sure if that's still canon like a lot of other things from Duscae. I'm going to assume so.

JunkTop
JunkTop

@askme
Basch is better than Wilhelm? by how much

lostmypassword
lostmypassword

@Spamalot
both their natural lifespans being cut in half
Decent deal on Noct's part. That actually increases his living time & Iggy isn't blind.

PackManBrainlure
PackManBrainlure

@Inmate
Ignis you fucking enabler.

TalkBomber
TalkBomber

Noctis warping just 5-7 meters away from Iggy
then does it again to enter the crystal
why does he have to use his powers for everything.
can't you just walk like a normal human

Spazyfool
Spazyfool

@askme
tfw you don't want seph, but you want lila.
hopefully they'll decide to tone down the price for the entire step up banner.
i really don't want to use 25000 lapis

Stark_Naked
Stark_Naked

@TalkBomber
In all honesty, has Noct ever kept a weapon spawned in his favorite room so he could warp back at any time?

Firespawn
Firespawn

@lostmypassword
And it lines up nicely with Prompto's ETTD.
tfw Gladio will be the last one alive

@TalkBomber
He has to be extra. He has to be extra.
walk like a normal human
normal
This look normal to you? https://youtu.be/rN2VKJs-KvU?t=8

Flameblow
Flameblow

@TalkBomber
reminds me of the scene in jjba part 4 where jotaros in some house investigating shit and he just uses star platinum to push the door for him. He also used it to catch a needle.

PurpleCharger
PurpleCharger

@Inmate
he and Ignis used to sneak out of the Citadel all the time as children
to hang out in the fields and watch the stars
Sure they did.

Raving_Cute
Raving_Cute

@SniperWish
Because Ardyn can kill people once he comes back.

@TalkBomber
if you could warp you would any chance

Evilember
Evilember

@Flameblow
That's very reasonable. Having a stand do shit keeps him safer & Star Platinum has super high precision anyway.

whereismyname
whereismyname

@JunkTop
basch can tank both magic and physical, so he's better than most tanks built before.
wilhelm 7* is better currently, and merc ramza does his job decently with the added benefit of 7* stats but we'll see what happens when basch gets his.

Crazy_Nice
Crazy_Nice

@Firespawn
https://youtu.be/DKTYY3ucF7w?t=132

Why is he like this?

Bidwell
Bidwell

@JunkTop
Apples and oranges. Basch is WoL+Mistair but better, Wilhelm still owns provoke tanking

Deadlyinx
Deadlyinx

@Spazyfool
wants a donut over an actual FF character
yep, that's a BEape alright

AwesomeTucker
AwesomeTucker

@TalkBomber
If I had warp strike powers I'd be a lazy fucker and warp to the kitchen for snacks and shit. You know Noctis did too.

Playboyize
Playboyize

@Deadlyinx
i never liked seph past the age where i thought he was the coolest thing in the world.
i'd rather spend that much on tifa.

WebTool
WebTool

@AwesomeTucker
leaves one weapon in the kitchen
the other on the couch
warps between the two if Ignis isn't around for him to whine at until he feeds him
Minmaxing at its best.

Fried_Sushi
Fried_Sushi

@lostmypassword
Iggy also would consider it a better fate since he's such a Noctfag that a full life while his waifu is dead would be torture for him.
I don't want to die without him!
Teach him to go to Gensokyo.

viagrandad
viagrandad

Saving for over 6 months
Ready to dump the entire load over 70k lapis 120 tickets
Upon further research this Cloud banner is an absolute joke and not worth it

Welp. I have no clue what to save up for now

Techpill
Techpill

@AwesomeTucker
I want to see Noctis pull off pic related.

Emberburn
Emberburn

@Spazyfool
hopefully they'll decide to tone down the price for the entire step up banner.
Oh user, you're adorable! They'd never do that!
They would increase it though.

Playboyize
Playboyize

@Fried_Sushi
He gets a life full of his waifu dead in the canon ending.

AwesomeTucker
AwesomeTucker

@TalkBomber
remember he got Bran Starked in Brotherhood so his back is all fucked up

King_Martha
King_Martha

@Emberburn
believe it or not, i think they did what they did in japan because they knew they could get away with it.
we'll see what happens, but it wouldn't surprise me if it ended up being 15000 total instead.

viagrandad
viagrandad

@viagrandad
If you've given up and are now feeling that all that saving will just go to waste on some nebulous future banner that may not even exist yet, why not just dump it on Cloud like you were planning, get two Clouds and an Elfreeda, and secure having the biggest ape dick imaginable when Cloud's 7* and enhancements arrive?

Deadlyinx
Deadlyinx

@AwesomeTucker
That's an understatement, apparently. @Playboyize

Snarelure
Snarelure

I call this Diary of a Mad Toaster Gamer
Try to play RK on Bluestacks a year and a half ago
Bluestacks is shit and RK is godawfully unoptimized, and completely unplayable

Try to play RK on Memu two months ago
Memu is a much better emu than BS3 but RK is still crap, technically playable with tons of slow-down and stalls
Start playing BE instead, runs much smoother
start playing Mobius on Nox, also runs much smoother than RK

Trying to play RK one last time with Nox, which is even better than Memu, right now
Even on the most streamlined emu, RK runs like frozen tar

How the fuck do both BE and Mobius run infinitely better than RK when they have higher requirements and Mobius looks like a modern console/toaster PC game?

Deadlyinx
Deadlyinx

old refia at 55%
realized i have four more just sitting there.
should i just get that dealt with?

Methshot
Methshot

@Fried_Sushi
That's why the canon ending sucks because best boy Ignis has to go through this on top of being cucked from the afterlife.
;_;

Harmless_Venom
Harmless_Venom

@Snarelure
Did you enable the virtualization thing?
RK is literally unplayable until you do so.

SomethingNew
SomethingNew

@Snarelure
mobius is on steam, just play is there without the need for a emulator and therefore no slowdowns.

RK is for cucks.

5mileys
5mileys

@Methshot
He still has Prompto.

Burnblaze
Burnblaze

@Playboyize
Canon doesn't matter when XV isn't getting any sequels senpai

TechHater
TechHater

fujos leave

Nojokur
Nojokur

@AwesomeTucker
You have warp strike powers but..
Everytime you use them your dick gets a mm shorter.

Lord_Tryzalot
Lord_Tryzalot

@Burnblaze
Could still get prequels too.

askme
askme

@Snarelure
works on my machine lol

hairygrape
hairygrape

@SomethingNew
I already switched to the desktop version, was still running decent through Nox but it's amazing how much better it is.

Methnerd
Methnerd

@Deadlyinx
It's actually a great tmr for healers. 30% spr. Can't go wrong with this tmr.

Carnalpleasure
Carnalpleasure

@viagrandad
and secure having the biggest ape dick imaginable when Cloud's 7* and enhancements arrive?

Because it's pointless. Finishers are a joke and Cloud's TMR being unstackable kills half the reason this was big in Japan. Cloud in global will have with best in slot ~1500ATK on release which sounds nice on paper, but again, he's a finisher.

Remember when Olive came out and she was breaking 1,100ATK when other units were barely struggling in the 900s? it's that all over again. Olive is useless and no one is going to friend unit finishers as that is not helpful to anyone. 1,500ATK Clouds are the new olives. Useless to you in actual content and useless as a friend unit since people need chainers to chain with. The banner is a waste.

Flameblow
Flameblow

@TechHater
Next time use this pic, makes more of a statement

StonedTime
StonedTime

@5mileys
Don't flatter yourself

Harmless_Venom
Harmless_Venom

@Nojokur
Does this mean he'll have a vagina by some point?

5mileys
5mileys

New "gameplay experience" coming to XV? Maybe a new mode?

taken from this months gameinformer-
"tabata also couldnt help teasing more than just story enhancements. theres also one other thing - a completely new gameplay experience i want to provide players of ff15 as well. i cant tell you what it is yet, though. were currently thrashing through the plans for that and getting it into shape"

TreeEater
TreeEater

@Carnalpleasure
Doesn't Cloud have a chaining move?

In any case, there's a couple of TDH chainers that come into play like Fixed Dice Tidus.

Burnblaze
Burnblaze

@Carnalpleasure
Because it's pointless. Finishers are a joke

you have no idea what you are taking about. And most likely never used a proper finisher for any chain ever.

DeathDog
DeathDog

@BlogWobbles
@Spamalot
XVI is a direct sequel (without being XV-2, which is reserved for Prompto, Gladio, and Ignis) that shows the new prince of back pain's story and how he was forced to kill some gaudy hobo who's lived for too many years after getting the burden shoved onto him by his late ancestor
I unironically want this.

CodeBuns
CodeBuns

@w8t4u
How is recognizing the truth supposed to make me delusional? Unless your definition is very far off, it would require the opposite.

@Soft_member
And you're still being ridiculous, there is nothing outside of that scene (indeed, outside of that specific line) to support that there was any pursuance of such a thing, and it gets dropped the second the scene ends. The Senate would certainly love to see him dead, I won't deny that, but there wasn't any serious pursuit of the matter (and there couldn't be, as there was nothing to go on even with the Senate grasping at straws as they already were). They certainly made their noise, and no one's trying to say that they didn't want him dead, but there was no crime to pin on him outside of perhaps negligence (certainly not treason), and that doesn't merit execution unless the expectations of commanders in Archadia is significantly higher than is reasonable and is indirectly implied.
The Senate needed to get removed for multiple reasons, and literally everyone except the Senate acknowledges this, they do nothing but harm Archadia and hold back the True Hero from properly pursuing what needs to be done; they're professional roadblocks at best and actively working to harm the nation for their own good at worst. There was just no sure way to do it before then, and the need hadn't been as pressing before, as in Rabanastre the True Hero had been largely free of their direct effects and could act more freely. Also there was a not-insignificant amount of time between him being recalled to Archades and the Senate's dissolution, it isn't like this happened the second he got off the airship.
Again, the interperatation is interesting, and without considering the rest of the game it holds some merit, but it doesn't hold up once the surrounding events are considered.

@Deadlyinx
And how does it not hold up? How is he not a hero, how has he done wrong?

Nojokur
Nojokur

@Methshot
Why the fuck does Ignis love Noctis so much anyway? What's so special about him that made him decide "yes this is the guy I wanna dedicate my entire being to and not just because it's my job"?

Lunatick
Lunatick

@Burnblaze
canon doesn't matter
Yes it does? And don't say that, we very well could get a sequel.

@StonedTime
What are you talking about?

@5mileys
That probably is in reference to either Comrades or switching betwixt the bros in singleplayer.

Sir_Gallonhead
Sir_Gallonhead

@Carnalpleasure
Cloud's not a finisher and you don't need to stack his TMR because eventually all he needs is one copy of his TMR and one Elfreeda TMR to reach cap.

TalkBomber
TalkBomber

@TreeEater
Doesn't Cloud have a chaining move?
No. He's a finisher.
@Burnblaze
You do not have room in any RELEVANT content for 2 chainers and a finisher. your party is comprised of units relevant to the content. You don't have the luxury of 3 slots. Hell in some cases you barely have the luxury of 2 chainers and most people just go with one (1) chainer and just slog through the fight slowly.

Fried_Sushi
Fried_Sushi

@CodeBuns
just give it up Vaynefraud, you've been utterly annihilated by now

Nude_Bikergirl
Nude_Bikergirl

@Burnblaze
it's probably more that he can't get by without two rikku's or something.
there are a bunch of ways to beat something, but some people can only see the way they have to.

AwesomeTucker
AwesomeTucker

@Nojokur
Noctis a cute. Plus he's been groomed to care about the lad since they were both very young. He's spent ample amount of time around Noctis, so naturally a bond would form.

StrangeWizard
StrangeWizard

@DeathDog
Noctis Wick comes back as a force ghost who teaches Noctis Jr. MAD GUN KATAS
I hope they at least fix Noctis's playstyle in a future update so he gets to be fun.

Crazy_Nice
Crazy_Nice

@Sir_Gallonhead
The TMR stacking was big for other units, not just for Cloud

SomethingNew
SomethingNew

@TechHater
You're first in line

lostmypassword
lostmypassword

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ec-UZJLAQ9c
So how does Prompto's weapons work? Can he loot weapons from enemies somehow? Does he reload this time & can he switch to the sniper?

Fuzzy_Logic
Fuzzy_Logic

@TalkBomber
You do not have room in any RELEVANT content for 2 chainers and a finisher.

I did with I used 2b and onion knight friend to chain with pod while suing Setzer as my finisher.

Lord_Tryzalot
Lord_Tryzalot

@TalkBomber
You do not have room in any RELEVANT content for 2 chainers and a finisher.
Yeah thats why people don't use Emperor to nuke Sheratan or Moon.

Boy_vs_Girl
Boy_vs_Girl

@DeathDog
the kicker is this new protag isn't at all related to Noctis because he decided to dedicate all of his time to rebuilding society and being with his bros

King_Martha
King_Martha

@Lunatick
That's from gameinformer after the character switch update happened.

@lostmypassword
There is a cool down when he runs out of ammo, besides the handgun which had unlimited same as when Noctis uses handguns

RumChicken
RumChicken

@Nojokur
he doesn't want to protect that smile
look at this huge fucking faggot

Firespawn
Firespawn

@Fuzzy_Logic
Malboro's such a fucking meme fight that it doesn't really matter.

TechHater
TechHater

Episode ARDYN WHEN

Nojokur
Nojokur

@King_Martha
Oh shit, really? I wonder what it is.

@RumChicken
He's a cunie.

likme
likme

@Fuzzy_Logic
rikku malboro setzer cheese
Relevant content
Okay, go do that on bloody moon and let me know how it goes

Deadlyinx
Deadlyinx

@TreeEater
he does have a chaining move.
but you wouldn't be able to make the most of it until 7* and two clouds

Stark_Naked
Stark_Naked

@TechHater
Even though it was most voted for, Tabata-san in his wisdom has said they may not go in order of the votes.

Lunatick
Lunatick

@Firespawn
i-it doesn't count because i don't like the fight

kek, also I'm pretty sure you can slot 2 chainers and a finisher for those 10 man trials.

RavySnake
RavySnake

@TechHater
next year. I'm guessing ardyn comfirming his brother betrayed him is gonna be what his DLC is about. or at least I hope it is set 2000 years ago in a medieval Eos

RumChicken
RumChicken

@King_Martha
Can he switch to the sniper though?

iluvmen
iluvmen

@Firespawn
then nothing counts because BE is a meme game

RavySnake
RavySnake

What if you get 2 Clouds and give them 9S pods? assuming both Clouds have 1,500ATK.
Won't that be good? or is the pod chaining just so bad it won't do good damage?

RumChicken
RumChicken

What is the purpose of character limits on this board?

@Gigastrength
@Spazyfool
Again, it's interesting in the context of that scene, and nowhere else. The deaths of the older Solidors were not official executions, they're just largely suspected to have come from within the family.
The Senate is effectively taunting him here, making a threat that is less harsh than (but just as limiting as) it sounds: they're saying that they can serve as notable opposition to him arbitrarily and everyone knows it, and if they decide that they want to take issue with the True Hero's life there is no one to stop them from opposing the emperor at every turn until they get their way. It's not a serious threat of execution, it's a morbid and mocking reminder that they hold significant power and that Gramis can't ignore or do anything about this. They're saying "go along with us in removing power from the True Hero or we'll oppose you as much as we can, effectively removing a lot of your own power", "choose to remove his power or your own". It's a threat, but not in the way that you are suggesting.

Supergrass
Supergrass

@Lunatick
Nonono, Malboro is definitely a fight where finishers work, it's just not a good example because of how fucked it is.
This is a fight where the first "real" party was 2Rikku2Setzer after all.

King_Martha
King_Martha

@RumChicken
No only Noctis uses sniper in main game.

They gave prompto his bazooka instead of the melee batton too since that baton was part of the outfit he had on

RumChicken
RumChicken

@RumChicken
To prevent deluded spergs from vomiting all their autism out at once.

Harmless_Venom
Harmless_Venom

@RavySnake
was literally about to ask about cloud with pods
Thanks for beating me to it, user.
If it wasn't a thing in JP it probably won't be a thing here due to his lower ATK.

massdebater
massdebater

@CodeBuns
there's no evidence he was going to be executed outside of the scene where they discuss executing him
You don't say. That's very profound.
Nothing else in the game contradicts this scene, so you have to accept the events. You forgetting about the events are not a reasonable excuse for them not happening.

The senate needed to be removed because they were going to kill Vayne. Vayne says as much to Gramis, he says that if he dies, more than just his life is on the line. True, he probably would have clashed with them sooner or later.
But the immediate threat to his life is what concerned him the most, since the Occuria couldn't be stopped with him dead. He tells Gramis this upon return to Archades. He says that his death carries with it much more.

There is no known amount of time between Gramis calling Vayne back and Gramis discussing the assisted suicide plot. We are given no such indication. And it wouldn't have any bearing if it were true. You're making stuff up again to fulfill your point.

独断で艦隊を動かしたヴェイン殿にあります
"Vayne deployed the armada without consulting others"
They literally know what he did. They know he deployed the armada, and that he made this decision of his own judgement.
The word 独断 is very important. It implies they knew Vayne did it, but that he acted without communicating.
And then the fleet never came back.

Lunatick
Lunatick

@RavySnake
I want an Episode Younger Regis so we can see what kinda cutie he spawned Noctis with and so Clarus can finally get a consistent design that doesn't look like fucking ass like his Kingsglaive version.

cum2soon
cum2soon

@likme
'
Okay, go do that on bloody moon and let me know how it goes

I can see it happening only because Setzer does fixed damage so I doesn't matter how much high the defense on bloody moon is. I did it with 1 rikku but it won't be so far fetched to see two rikku if you use ashe as your chainers. It's doable.

The team would be probably something like this...

rikku
rikku
wol or mystea
ashe
ashe
Setzer with killers

Supergrass
Supergrass

@Harmless_Venom
Pods don't exist in Japan, user

Methshot
Methshot

@Crazy_Nice
Of course, but this guy's just talking about Cloud.

PurpleCharger
PurpleCharger

@RavySnake
@Harmless_Venom
he already has his chaining move with meteorain
180% AoE 8 Hit Physical Attack + Ignore 50% DEF

takes2long
takes2long

@RumChicken
They actually don't say any of that.
They say that Vayne's brothers were executed/judged by Gramis's order, while discussing what to do with Vayne after he destroyed the 8th fleet.

There is no way to construe that in any other way than what it says. I have shown you that both in Japanese and English (Japanese even more than English), Vayne was on the chopping block.
This isn't up for debate, this is the consensus about what happens. This is a basic plot point.

likme
likme

can't combine messy haired Ignis with timeskip version
what's the point

Nojokur
Nojokur

@TalkBomber
You do not have room in any RELEVANT content for 2 chainers and a finisher
if imperiless chainers can afford to bring Ace just to imperil chainers can bring a finisher instead.

hairygrape
hairygrape

@likme
that messy hair

TurtleCat
TurtleCat

Finally joined the 200 stamina club

VisualMaster
VisualMaster

@Nojokur
Ace does things other than imperil.

happy_sad
happy_sad

@Nojokur
Ace
only imperil

cum2soon
cum2soon

@Nojokur
Ace is MP battery

SomethingNew
SomethingNew

Why aren't you playing MeliMelo? Reroll is fast as fuck.

happy_sad
happy_sad

@RavySnake
single wield chain with no element
It's pretty shit

lostmypassword
lostmypassword

tfw now I'm unsure if I should pull hard on Cloud banner
Someone decide all this already

PackManBrainlure
PackManBrainlure

@SomethingNew
Can't read ping pong

eGremlin
eGremlin

@SomethingNew
When it comes to Japanese, I'm illiterate. I'm praying we get a global release, though the chances are smaller than those adorable chibis.

SomethingNew
SomethingNew

Who should I use the 5* tickets on?
Lightning?
Queen?
DV?
Lunera?
Ace?
Rinoa?

Or Basch since I got cucked by REEEEE on his banner.

RumChicken
RumChicken

@SomethingNew
yes

Techpill
Techpill

@SomethingNew
After FGO, I discovered the disadvantages of being unable to read.

Emberfire
Emberfire

@SomethingNew
Ace if it's your second one

SniperGod
SniperGod

@cum2soon
doesn't have Ayaka or Tilith
lmfao

eGremlin
eGremlin

@SniperGod
implying a 99 MP move that only restores 50 MP is sustainable
implying you'd even have enough time to use that move when you'd just be spamming Prism Heal or Curaja+Reraise

King_Martha
King_Martha

@Gigastrength
過ちを断罪された
carrying any context of execution
You're using an alternate definition that very clearly doesn't apply in context to fit your narrative.
@Spazyfool
This one is much more convincing of your point, although 処分 has a fuckton of uses outside of putting pets to sleep and I certainly wouldn't call that its primary use. In fiction it's almost always used to refer to killing people though.

iluvmen
iluvmen

@lostmypassword
do it

Dreamworx
Dreamworx

@King_Martha
Yeah, that one's a stretch since they specifically talk about judging his crime and not judging him.
But regardless, we know from other sources that Vayne's brothers were killed from within House Solidor. So the connotation of executed (final judgement) absolutely applies.
We know that Gramis ordered Vayne to execute them, likely for treason.
This is just a reinforcement of Gramis's role in things.

And yeah, 処分 could also be like disposing of garbage or any similar thing, but the main takeaway is that everything together was clearly intended to show that Vayne, like his brothers before him, was about to be executed. There's no dispute about this fact, Vaynefraud is sweating bullets right now.
This is worse than the time he forgot about the party's first trip onboard the Leviathan.

whereismyname
whereismyname

Whether by blood or not, who composes your family is a choice entirely up to you.

In other words, this was a really nice onii-chan simulator. All that was missing was Gladio, and then it'd be a trio of little sibling complexes.

Flameblow
Flameblow

I'm trying to decide what to buy in the MP shop since Hecatoncheires leaves today. Should I be buying and maxing any of these Sicarius cards? For example, I mainly use S1C so should I grab Hecatoncheires so that I have an aoe earth card to compliment my single target Cross Slash when facing wind enemies (and to benefit from the big earth damage boost S1C gets)? Or is this Deathguise card I got from the Novice Hall better because it's aoe plus Break Defense Down? Not sure if Heca's damage focus is more desirable.
And on that topic, what about the other elements I can use? Would any of the Sicarius be an improvement to my deck(s) over the following cards?
For water cards I have Ixion (been using this as my main aoe), Byakko, Valefore and Siegfriend.
My darks are Amon, Centaur and Havoc Skytank.
Lastly, for wind cards I have Griffon, Quetzalcoatl and The Proudclad.

Sir_Gallonhead
Sir_Gallonhead

@massdebater
Again, unless Archadia operated very differently from implied/excepted a simple accusation of negligence is not enough for execution. They know no more of the events than that the fleet went somewhere, they can't blame the exact happenings on him except through negligence. Unless you're trying to imply that the Senate needs to be explicitly consulted before every move of every ship under his command (which is ridiculous, impractical, and baseless), there is no explicit wrongdoing besides that to pin on him, there is no justification for execution.
The entire scene is the Senate making it known, to both Gramis and to the viewer, that they have power, want everyone to know it, and will oppose the emperor and his blood arbitrarily if they don't get their way. Again, it's a threat, but not the way that you're trying to imply. The Senate needed to be removed more then than before only due to the pressing nature of the events in the rest of the game and the hightened restrictions that they were causing with their recall; and the conversation between the True Hero and Gramis is just reiterating the Senate's threat in a way, he's forcing Gramis to acknowledge that it isn't him or any of them that the Senate is resisting, it's their entire house and position (of the emperor) in general. He's reminding him that it doesn't matter whether he or Larsa is chosen as the next emperor, the Senate will oppose and work against them all the same, and will never cease to be anything more than an objective hindrance to the emperor, their family, and the nation. Listening to them and allowing Larsa as his heir doesn't make the problem go away, it just kicks it down the road for Larsa to deal with.

@takes2long
You can't ignore the ultimania and the lines of other small NPCs in the game. The ultimania outright contradicts you, and the npcs imply that it's merely suspected that the True Hero was behind their deaths, not confirmed and it certainly wasn't an official execution.

girlDog
girlDog

@whereismyname
Lunie!

iluvmen
iluvmen

@whereismyname
The writers don't give a fuck about Gladio.

Deadlyinx
Deadlyinx

@Dreamworx
Again user, it was a mocking and morbid display of power and a threat of opposition, not a threat of execution (which they couldn't back up anyways).

Evilember
Evilember

Why the fuck did they change Ardyn's nip VA?

SomethingNew
SomethingNew

If FF7R's going to be based on the FFXV engine, does that mean the FF7 cast will all get shit like Link Strikes? Because that'd be fucking sick.

Illusionz
Illusionz

@whereismyname
Both of them learned about how to be a big brother from the Lannisters.

massdebater
massdebater

@Sir_Gallonhead
the ultimania outright contradicts you
Where?
Show me evidence. I have shown you evidence. Show me one line of dialogue that contradicts this fact, or the alleged passage from the Ultimania that contradicts it.

And for the record, criminal negligence in times of war IS treason.
Even if he meant nothing against Archadia when he deployed the fleet of his own judgement, the end results are all that matter for the sake of treachery. Treason isn't just a voluntary act for the sake of law.

@Deadlyinx
"you ordered your other two sons to be executed, why not vayne?" is not a display of power. It is a statement of their intent to get him to dispose of vayne.
An ultimatum between Gramis's throne and his son. Because they are indicting him for treason.

Crazy_Nice
Crazy_Nice

@Illusionz
At least they didn't learn from the Targaryens.

Emberburn
Emberburn

@Evilember
Did they? I know Keiji Fujiwara has had health problems lately so he's been scaling down on the voice acting.

Deadlyinx
Deadlyinx

Pull screen has a crystal that explodes
I can't take it, BE gave me PTSD

eGremlin
eGremlin

@SomethingNew
yeah maybe

RavySnake
RavySnake

@Emberburn
Okay, I checked imdb, it's still him, but he sounds very different. Maybe even out of character.

likme
likme

@RavySnake
If he's sick that would explain why.

Burnblaze
Burnblaze

@Evilember
They didn't, fujiwara recently went on hiatus from health issues and only just came back

Lord_Tryzalot
Lord_Tryzalot

Episode Ignis really made me appreciate best boy all over again.

Evilember
Evilember

@SomethingNew
Red XIII Link

Fuzzy_Logic
Fuzzy_Logic

FFXV is the worst final fantasy game made followed closely by XIII

VisualMaster
VisualMaster

@SomethingNew
7r isn't the same engine, and 7 characters don't have as good a dynamic to do them anyway

@Fuzzy_Logic
XV is the best one

New_Cliche
New_Cliche

@VisualMaster
a game that has nothing to do with final fantasy is the best one
newfags go back to r*ddit

BlogWobbles
BlogWobbles

@VisualMaster
lol

Raving_Cute
Raving_Cute

@massdebater
Ultimania
There's a pastebin link that used to float around this general, and you can literally just Google this one.
They aren't at war user, and without further evidence it certainly isn't criminal negligence. Without further information there's nothing to say that the explosion was the cause of any of his actions, or even of anything in particular, there just isn't anything solid for then to work with. Unless you're trying to suggest that merely moving the fleet around within their own borders without consulting the Senate is supposed to constitute treason (again, impractical and baseless), they have nothing to use in a serious accusation.
It isn't a serious threat lad, there is literally nothing for them to work with for execution. Negligence (even just situationally) is plenty to work with when trying to remove power, but it isn't anywhere near enough to work with for execution without anything else. Again, there is no known cause of the fleet's destruction, it just happened while under his command so they're using that all they can. It is a threat to chose between himself and the True Hero, but not in the way that you're saying, they're discussing power, not lives (although the effect is and would have been the same I suppose; you're not really making illogical conclusions you're just starting with strange information).

Supergrass
Supergrass

@New_Cliche
You first.

TechHater
TechHater

making obvious bait
thinking responding to bait with bait is funny
being a retarded frogposter

Terra say please kys

Ignoramus
Ignoramus

@Supergrass
n-no, y-you

massdebater
massdebater

Who is the Nappa of Final Fantasy?

SomethingNew
SomethingNew

@Supergrass
Go to bed, XV-kun

hairygrape
hairygrape

@Ignoramus
Fuck off KH-kun.

Methshot
Methshot

@Supergrass
Cool references, too bad they are wasted on a shit game, over a fucking year since release and its still not the full game

eGremlin
eGremlin

@TechHater
Terra say please kys

Spazyfool
Spazyfool

@SomethingNew
Fuck off KH-kun.

@Methshot
XV is the best one and it has more content than any other single player FF.

FastChef
FastChef

@Spazyfool
and it has more content than any other single player FF.
yeah after they gave it additional year in development to add missing content, but you retards call it DLC

Spamalot
Spamalot

@hairygrape
f-fuck off, r-random boogeyman

SomethingNew
SomethingNew

Does Ignis ever use spears outside techniques? For some reason, I never saw him doing so.

Dreamworx
Dreamworx

@Raving_Cute
No, I'm not asking for you to weasel around and say "just google it haha trust me".
I need for you to show me the specific passage, in both Japanese and English, where it says the Brothers Solidor weren't executed by Gramis and Vayne.

Deploying the army's strongest fleet on a whim without conferring with anyone else, and then having that fleet explode in a way that hasn't happened since Nabudis is absolutely the territory of criminal negligence. And criminal negligence of that magnitude is more than enough reason to execute, they have no way of knowing his intent.
They are on the brink of war, Rozzaria is just waiting for the right moment to make the first strike. You yourself have said as much.
Vayne deploying the fleet put the entire empire at dire risk. The senate was well within its rights to accuse Vayne for his behavior, since he singlehandedly placed them in that position.

Vayne ordered a mysterious deployment, and the ships all miraculously exploded. From the eyes of the senate, there is no situation where this isn't Vayne's fault.

Give me proof or you will forever remain Vaynefraud.

farquit
farquit

@FastChef
I'm only talking about the base game dipshit.

@Spamalot
Fuck off KH-kun.

Skullbone
Skullbone

How long does it usually take extra skills to unlock once the requirements are met?

TalkBomber
TalkBomber

@SomethingNew
It's used in the counter attacks and the graple hook attack on the magitek armor and the bannermen

TurtleCat
TurtleCat

@SomethingNew
Yes, as a NPC. In Episode Ignis, no, you only use the daggers, or you can use the high jump tech. He also uses the spear as his counter move in Ep. ignis.

FastChef
FastChef

So I’ve noticed the japanese versions of some square enix games have full english menus and voices, particularly ones that come out worldwide around the same time like nier automata or FFXV. Does anyone know if dissidia is going to be that way? I might import it if that’s the case, too much other stuff coming out in late january for me

Raving_Cute
Raving_Cute

@FastChef
What does importing it have to do with too much other stuff coming out?

TreeEater
TreeEater

@Skullbone
Nevermind, just found a guide that explains how many battles it takes.

CodeBuns
CodeBuns

C-cute

Soft_member
Soft_member

FFXV is complete dogshit

kizzmybutt
kizzmybutt

@Dreamworx
In fact, that brings up something else I missed.
The senate mentions little Larsa going around just looking for a reason to accuse Vayne of something.
This brings another parallel between the situation with the brothers. It suggests that Vayne discovered the treachery, and that Gramis ordered the execution. Just like the senate thought little Larsa was going to do.

When you look at it that way, there's no other reason for that line of dialogue to be there.
Vayne uncovered the plot, and Gramis gave the order.

Until you find proof that this didn't happen, this is what FFXII tells us happened.

Fried_Sushi
Fried_Sushi

@Soft_member
XV is the best FF. Fuck off KH-kun.

StonedTime
StonedTime

@Fuzzy_Logic
@New_Cliche
@Ignoramus
@Spamalot
@Soft_member
Samefag.

lostmypassword
lostmypassword

@Fried_Sushi
KH is even worse than XV

Goddamn you're stupid.

Lord_Tryzalot
Lord_Tryzalot

Vaynefag and XV-kun autism
What did we do to deserve this, bros?

SomethingNew
SomethingNew

It ain't the best, but it ain't the worst either.

iluvmen
iluvmen

@lostmypassword
Nice damage control KH-kun.

whereismyname
whereismyname

@Lord_Tryzalot
they obviously have horrible taste. shame them like the massive faggots they are

BlogWobbles
BlogWobbles

@TurtleCat
He should've stuck with the katana since he was the one all ready to go seppuku if his precious Nocto gone. Cor didn't even do anything with his.

Nojokur
Nojokur

@Lord_Tryzalot
@whereismyname

You mean KH-kun autism.

Bidwell
Bidwell

@Lord_Tryzalot
You asked for main game discussion over mobile games. This is what it looks like.

Techpill
Techpill

@iluvmen
doubling down on your ignorant stupidity
Yeah, I can see why you like XV now. SubIQ games for subIQ people.

Methnerd
Methnerd

Why is she so perfect?

whereismyname
whereismyname

@Methnerd
Because she's God, silly!

TechHater
TechHater

@BlogWobbles
Remember back when he was nicknamed Glasses Touchdown?

Poker_Star
Poker_Star

@Bidwell
Lets discuss again about why Ignis is the best boy.
https://twitter.com/_danu17_/status/940915235354959872

JunkTop
JunkTop

@Methnerd
Alexander looks like this

Boy_vs_Girl
Boy_vs_Girl

@TechHater
That's how I knew he was going to be my favorite boy
now he and Noctis get to do the Downward Dog every night

TurtleCat
TurtleCat

@Dreamworx
Spoonfeed me a quick Google
At this point you're detracting from yourself, but here's the in-thread translation: >>118491525
There are other translations floating around the net and we even had a pastebin with a decent amount of XII ultimania translations in it, but that's the easy link.
Just moving the fleet around within their own borders isn't anything approaching treason user, it isn't like he sent the fleet deep in to rozzaria and it disappeared, there was nothing risky or strange about it, although it may have been seen as unnecessary. Within their own borders, and especially without further evidence of intention or knowledge, it's impossible to say that the explosion is related to him in anything more than negligence, and even that is a nice stretch given his removal from it. Had Ghis survived he would have been the logical place to put the blame, but without him the Senate were free to throw it around as they pleased.

@kizzmybutt
Again user, it's just serving as a (notable, impressive, and dangerous) threat regarding power, not lives (at least, not at that moment).

@whereismyname
How is it horrible taste to recognize the worth of the True Hero? It's the complete opposite, so I'm a bit confused here.

Stupidasole
Stupidasole

@TechHater
Travis Touchdown's more successful cousin.

Flameblow
Flameblow

Didn't realise there was character creation.

Bidwell
Bidwell

@Flameblow
wh-what the hell is this? WoFF mobile game?

VisualMaster
VisualMaster

@TechHater
ferris fieldgoal was what people used to call him way back in 08-09

Raving_Cute
Raving_Cute

@Flameblow
Those Chao-like expressions
fuck

Crazy_Nice
Crazy_Nice

@Soft_member
Delete this post right now.

Deadlyinx
Deadlyinx

@Raving_Cute
I miss Chao raising.

likme
likme

@Deadlyinx
I miss beating and starving one while feeding and coddling another right in front of it

Stark_Naked
Stark_Naked

@Flameblow
Chocololi get
@likme
Jesus Christ, are you me? Did the same thing.

Evilember
Evilember

@Deadlyinx
What was the point of Sephiroth throwing a materia at Cloud? And will he do it again in FF7R?

BlogWobbles
BlogWobbles

@TurtleCat
It isn't spoonfeeding when your honor is on the line.
I've spoonfed you gallons of facts.
And everything in the ultimania conforms with the fact that Vayne was to be executed. I'm sorry, but this is the end.

Gramis:
Maintaining the Solidor line has always been his primary concern, and when he had his two eldest sons killed for plotting a treason
That tells you right fucking there. In plain day. That the Brothers Solidor. Were to be executed. As would befall Vayne.
Bam. Case closed. Book closed. Vaynefraud.
But it goes on.

Realizing that the Senate is planning to eliminate Vayne and install Larsa as their puppet emperor, he hatches his own plan how to preserve House Solidor.
Eliminate (E. Liminate) Vayne.
Eliminate Vayne.

At the age of 16, Vayne secretly put to the sword his two older brothers who were plotting a rebellion. The one who gave him that cruel order was none other than his father, the emperor.
Suggests that Gramis gave the orders and Vayne carried them out, just as I have always stated.
Just as the Senate stated.
Because they were going to execute Vayne.

TreeEater
TreeEater

@JunkTop
I have Orlandeau and DV, and yet I'm hyped for Beatrix.
Actually not only her but also the rest of the IX cast that will get 6* versions.
I can only (vainly) hope they'll either give her another attack that can chain with Divine Ruination frames, or "fix" one of her moves.
It'd be fun if they did, but made her chainable with OK.

Also can't wait for the IV banner. Hopefully they'll leave some times in between IX, X and IV so I can save for my man Kain.

BunnyJinx
BunnyJinx

It's embarrassing how Vaynefraud tries to weasel himself out of everything with "b-but go play the game baka!!" and "j-just google it ok? trust me!" only to get btfo time and time again. Just kill yourself already, you have failed your True Jew.

Sharpcharm
Sharpcharm

@TurtleCat
And now that you've lost all dignity as a man, allow me to address your other point.

The very fact that the excursion was useless is what makes it criminal negligence to the senators. They necessarily can't know about the Occuria plot, so to them Vayne deployed the fleet for no reason at all. That's not an error in judgement on their part, it's exactly what Vayne wanted.
And then conveniently, it exploded for the first time ever.

So the two facts taken together can only be negligence or treason to the senate. The fact that things would have been different had Ghis survived doesn't change the current situation that they had every reason to suspect treachery or incompetence.
They weren't just fucking assholes, they were doing their job well.

JunkTop
JunkTop

@Soft_member
@Gigastrength
@Spazyfool
@BlogWobbles
@RumChicken
@takes2long
@CodeBuns
@massdebater
@Sir_Gallonhead
@massdebater
@Raving_Cute
@Dreamworx
@kizzmybutt
@TurtleCat
@BlogWobbles
@BunnyJinx
@Sharpcharm
fuck off retards

Dreamworx
Dreamworx

@TreeEater
You want some frames fixed, just rile up Reddit

happy_sad
happy_sad

Bring back the vaynefag filter please, and put it into the OP

Gigastrength
Gigastrength

@JunkTop
t. Shitningwhale

CodeBuns
CodeBuns

@JunkTop
but user don't you guys LOVE vaynefag?? ask him about his lapis and his RK pulls he's such a cool guy we love him here!

Skullbone
Skullbone

@JunkTop
user this is an important moment in vaynefag history.
the day it was revealed he doesn't even know the main plot of the game he holds so dear.
he'll never be able to post seriously again, his honor is tarnished forever.

Inmate
Inmate

@happy_sad
just use it yourself

Poker_Star
Poker_Star

@Spazyfool
doesn't want motherfucking Sephiroth
wants a literal who with no story
I want off this BEape ride

Harmless_Venom
Harmless_Venom

@CodeBuns
this but unironically

Flameblow
Flameblow

@Inmate
I no longer have it and I'm on a new computer. It also needs to be in OP to remind people not to respond to this delusional retard.

cum2soon
cum2soon

pull or skip?

takes2long
takes2long

BEApes this friday

Sir_Gallonhead
Sir_Gallonhead

@Skullbone
I've seen almost this exact post before, it didn't change a thing. The only end is with his death, he can keep this up forever. You may try again in the future, others may too, but you'll only succeed in wasting your time.

Skullbone
Skullbone

@takes2long
This has to be fake. How can you drop 15,000$ and not get the units you need?

Boy_vs_Girl
Boy_vs_Girl

@cum2soon
What was William's deal again? Was he supposed to be our first good mage chainer or something? Because we have those already.
@Skullbone
The people who created the trust system intended for people to just pull enough units to get tmrs to 100%.

Emberburn
Emberburn

@Skullbone
You think three percent is a high percentage?

Ignoramus
Ignoramus

@BlogWobbles
Now you're just purposely being obtuse.
Yes,the older two were killed, but it wasn't an official execution and was never even confirmed to the outside that the family was involved.
Yes, the Senate would love to get rid of the most competent Solidor, I've never said that they didn't. They just didn't have the ammunition for it then, so they were trying to get rid of his power, and to pass over him for Larsa as the next emperor, removing much of his power and setting him back significantly. That they want him dead is no question, but that's not what they were discussing (at least in a serious accusation manner) during that scene.
He carried it out from Gramis' orders as I've stated as well, and as is integral to the threat that the Senate is making: if they wanted it to happen (and they do), they could oppose him at every turn until it was done again. They're trying to suggest that Gramis have the same thing happen to the True Hero as happened to his older brothers, being removed by and for the sake of the younger, not outright trying to get him executed for the supposed treason of having a fleet blow up for no reason while under his command.

@BunnyJinx
How is being right getting btfo?
And the True Hero is not Jewish in any way, why would you think so?

@Sharpcharm
Doing something for no reason can't be constructed to be the same as causing the explosion without any other evidence. If they had something else to go with then they could have stretched it to some semblance of an actual accusation, but at it is they literally have only coincidence and no evidence at all of cause. There is nothing to go on, and no way to imply treason. You're being ridiculous now.

@Skullbone
No, that user is just (purposely? It has to be at this point) being ridiculous and ignoring aspects of the plot and ultimania.

@Sir_Gallonhead
It is quite difficult to lose when arguing for a correct position.

Boy_vs_Girl
Boy_vs_Girl

@Emberburn
user you get 3 10+1 pulls for 100 bucks. I'm too BEape to math but imagine 15,000$ worth of those 3 10+1s.

Even 1% rate would guarantee units at that level

idontknow
idontknow

@Ignoramus
No, that user is just (purposely? It has to be at this point) being ridiculous and ignoring aspects of the plot and ultimania.
If by "that Anon" you mean yourself, then yeah

Gigastrength
Gigastrength

@Sir_Gallonhead
Last time he got away on a technicality by making it seem like he misinterpreted my post. I came so close then too.
This time, he made it clear that he thinks Vayne wasn't going to be executed. I have two threads worth of evidence that he holds this opinion.

And I have now demonstrated this to be false. Ladies and gentlemen, I present to you:
The Death of Vaynefag.

Methnerd
Methnerd

wake up this morning
still no cloud banner

Fine, I'll keep running this damn raid.

Supergrass
Supergrass

@takes2long
the absolute state of BEapes

Emberburn
Emberburn

@JunkTop
all me

RumChicken
RumChicken

@Gigastrength
It seems you are truly lost then, you've become inextricably tangled up in his autism. Go to him.

Nojokur
Nojokur

Pulling on Cloud banner
A banner that you have to pull 3 5* to make it worth while
Defend this

Deadlyinx
Deadlyinx

I feel like Vaynefag's lingo has evolved over the years but it's worth a try
https://ghostbin.com/paste/tsjzh

The people replying to him are just as bad tbqh

Burnblaze
Burnblaze

@Ignoramus
he had his two eldest sons killed for plotting a treason
had his two sons killed
That is to say, he executed them.
As the senate said would happen in kind to Vayne.
Because he was going to be executed.

@RumChicken
I'm coming home, I can feel it.
Without Vaynefag there can be no Anti-Vaynefag.
I'm fading away.

WebTool
WebTool

@Nojokur
Stop being so fucking poor?

JunkTop
JunkTop

@CodeBuns
Hey thanks for the reminder!

@likme
Did you start magicite dungeons yet or are you still slacking off with Neo Bahamut?

iluvmen
iluvmen

@Nojokur
Just pull 3 rainbows in a row lmao

Skullbone
Skullbone

@Ignoramus
Vaynefag's in the right here desu

Spazyfool
Spazyfool

@Skullbone
t. Vaynefag

Fried_Sushi
Fried_Sushi

@Deadlyinx
@JunkTop
This is why you won't get rid of him. Even ironically trying to act friendly just to force him to stay for drama is enough to keep him here

Spamalot
Spamalot

@Ignoramus
@Burnblaze
arguing over semantics

Gigastrength
Gigastrength

Damn, Noctis bossfight is so weird, hard to read. Really can't miss dem counter attacks.

w8t4u
w8t4u

@Nojokur
In the future, all banners want you to pull a minimum of two 5*s. Actually, more like at least 4 since there'll be split banners with two 7* units on them. You should get out now. It's too late for me.

askme
askme

The worst part is how he thinks Vayne couldn't do anything against the protags because of their powers and how unpredictable they were or whatever excuse he uses.

the menagerie of Ashelia B'Nargan that acquired one of the shards, were on the ship that got destroyed by mist, fought my loyal Dr. Cid twice, and numerous other things I know of, plus possibly accomplished other feats I do not know of but should be wary of - how hard could they be? I have a warship, a judge, an army, flying swords, and martial arts, and an Occuria on my side!
But of course poor Vayne's fight was rigged.

@Gigastrength
hard to read
Like all XV fights.

PackManBrainlure
PackManBrainlure

@Gigastrength
Also when you see him armiger chain just fucking run nigga

Booteefool
Booteefool

@askme
that's not true. why do you think it's true? it's not true, tell me why you think it is true because it isn't true?

TurtleCat
TurtleCat

@w8t4u
Isn't there going to be 5* unit of choice tickets in the future too?

girlDog
girlDog

@Spamalot
In the land of the autistic, an error this grievous is worth your waifu license.
Not that you could call Vayne his waifu, but the same principle applies.
It's not even semantics, Vaynefag genuinely doesn't think the senate was talking about executing Vayne for the Leviathan explosion.

Vaynefag is no autistic god. He is a man.
Not even a man.

5mileys
5mileys

@idontknow
How am I ignoring plot and the ultimania though?

@Gigastrength
What? user, you're the one with strange misinterperations. That discussion did not involve serious attempt to accuse and execute the True Hero for treason as there was nothing to go on for such an accusation, it was a threat to Gramis that if they really wanted him dead they could put up a huge opposition to him until they got their way; it was a threat and a display of power, not a serious attempt at execution for that specific reason.

@Burnblaze
But it wasn't an official execution, it wasn't even an execution to most people's knowledge. Did the Senate want him dead? Yes, very much so. Were they threatening Gramis with the fact that they had methods of getting their way if they wanted to use them? Yes. But were the seriously trying to execute him at that specific moment for the specific thing that you've been saying? No.

@JunkTop
I still haven't found enough time to start on that yet, if fact I really shouldn't be here arguing with someone who is either purposely shitposting or unreachable, but this is so ridiculous it compels me.

@Spamalot
Perhaps this is simply the other anon's strange problem, but his insistence that the supposed "treason" was going to be the cause of an immediate official execution makes this a bit difficult to believe.

@askme
But that's right though, no humans could have done what the main party did during the ending sequence, it isn't possible without tiring before they were halfway through.

AwesomeTucker
AwesomeTucker

this thread

girlDog
girlDog

@girlDog
But they weren't lad, and I'm still confused as to how you have constructed the situation like that. There is literally no evidence for treason, and no evidence for them trying to accuse him of it, and the only evidence of them wanting him dead then is the same as them wanting him dead in general so your interpretation is just confusing. I'm not trying to attack where you go from there, because it isn't that illogical really, but the information you're starting the argument with is just wrong and I'm not sure how or why you've gotten to it.

TalkBomber
TalkBomber

@TurtleCat
The tickets are cut up into little itty bitty pieces. You gotta collect them all to get just one. It's been a thing on JP for a while now and they're just getting enough for their first one now only because of a massive technical fuck up. And these banners that they'll want you to pull multiple 5*s on will be coming out every week.

FastChef
FastChef

@AwesomeTucker
I like this image

MPmaster
MPmaster

@FastChef
I disagree

Lord_Tryzalot
Lord_Tryzalot

@5mileys
it was a threat for gramis to order his son killed
it wasn't a threat for execution!
Nowhere in my posts or yours did you use the qualifier "official."
The hearing scene (which I'll post once more for those out of the loop)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=38O-Mxj9XJw

Discusses the intended execution of Vayne Solidor for his strange and destructive actions in time of approaching war.

You have nowhere to run. Your fraud has been exposed to the masses.

iluvmen
iluvmen

@MPmaster
Wrong

PurpleCharger
PurpleCharger

@AwesomeTucker
I wish the one Mobius player would come home from work so I could ask him questions about Mobius. Also, there's nothing to do in RK and BE right now, so expect this sort of thing to continue for the next couple days until the Cloud shitstorm hits.

Supergrass
Supergrass

@takes2long
rkcuck falling for century old copy pasta

That copy pasta has been passed around for many many years already.

iluvmen
iluvmen

@PurpleCharger
There are at least two mandrill friends answering questions. I know because I'm one of them and I sure as hell am not at work (though I will be going to sleep soon)

BlogWobbles
BlogWobbles

@girlDog
A summary of the hearing scene:
vayne destroyed the fleet without consulting anyone
this is a heavy blow to us, Rozzaria could strike at any moment now
Lord Gramis, we bid that you execute Vayne just as you executed his brothers before him
Gramis: Okay sure

I don't even need further argument, that alone speaks for itself.

LuckyDusty
LuckyDusty

@PurpleCharger
Cloud shitstorm hits.
There is none. This banner is not Ayaka tier where it's pull or die. Cloud is shit, TDH is shit in global, this banner is shit. There is no shitstorm for mediocrity

LuckyDusty
LuckyDusty

@iluvmen
Nice! I know there's more than one, I was just joking around. I'll bump my question from earlier then @Flameblow
Hope you have a good sleep dude.

likme
likme

@LuckyDusty
You're forgetting that Cloud Strife is the most popular FF character.

GoogleCat
GoogleCat

@likme
Not on /ffg/
everyone likes lightning

viagrandad
viagrandad

@TalkBomber
they gave out a whole ten pieces today, which is one unit.
most longtime players should have another 6 right now.

PackManBrainlure
PackManBrainlure

@GoogleCat
And everyone went crazy for her banner too.

RumChicken
RumChicken

I don't care if it's not exactly canon
Ignis is best beautiful waifu and Ravus grows a weird uncle goatee
I will accept no other ending

Spazyfool
Spazyfool

BEApe streamer got arrested on stream

LuckyDusty
LuckyDusty

@Spazyfool
Fuckin' sauce nigga, sauce!

haveahappyday
haveahappyday

@LuckyDusty
Hecatoncheir shouldn't be a priority for you. Big waves of enemies tend to be pretty weak so with S1C's earth enhance, Deathgaze does plenty enough to deal with them. All the plain attack cards like Byakko and Valefor that I assume you got from the novice hall are trash, and you would be better off replacing them with the appropriate sicarius asap. Your dark cards are all solid though, so don't worry about those. You'll need to wait for the 4/5* rotation before you can buy the materials to augment the corresponding sicarius card to 5*, but even at 4* they outclass the basic elemental attacks at 5*.

takes2long
takes2long

@Spazyfool
RKfags are swatting poor innocent BE players

Fucking stop it.

Bidwell
Bidwell

@Spazyfool
for what though?

Inmate
Inmate

@Bidwell
playing BE lol

BinaryMan
BinaryMan

@Spazyfool
Why aren't you posting the fucking video

cum2soon
cum2soon

@Inmate
no really tho

Firespawn
Firespawn

@Spazyfool
Source or it didn't happen

Harmless_Venom
Harmless_Venom

@haveahappyday
Alright, so for earth I'll stick with CS for single target/Deathgaze for aoe and dark I'll use Centaur/Amon. From the sicarius cards I'll work on getting Shiva for single target water since I have Ixion as an aoe and Odin/Adrammelech for single/aoe wind. Thanks man, I appreciate it.

SomethingNew
SomethingNew

@girlDog
There's a fucking scene where they talk about executive him for launching Leviathan without permission. It was literally posted on this thread. How fucking dumb are you , autist?

LuckyDusty
LuckyDusty

@Spazyfool
Was he a german?

Harmless_Venom
Harmless_Venom

@SomethingNew
that's not true. why do you say that. I want to know what would make you think that.

Supergrass
Supergrass

@LuckyDusty
/ffg/ has the deepest lore.

viagrandad
viagrandad

@LuckyDusty
I want to protect Emma's smile.

Emberburn
Emberburn

She's beauty. She's grace

Ignoramus
Ignoramus

@viagrandad
Her smile is gone for good

Firespawn
Firespawn

@Emberburn
Tummy game on point.

Sir_Gallonhead
Sir_Gallonhead

@LuckyDusty
that scooby
my sides

likme
likme

@LuckyDusty
rindom

I don't get it

Deadlyinx
Deadlyinx

@Emberburn
id fuck her right in her face.

New_Cliche
New_Cliche

@Ignoramus
:(

JunkTop
JunkTop

@Emberburn
what are those two nearly naked ladies doing with that young boy?

RumChicken
RumChicken

@Lord_Tryzalot
You keep on trying to say that they were trying to get him executed specifically for that instance of supposed treason rather than just killed in general, which is wrong. In no way could that have been constructed as treason, and they aren't discussing executing him specifically for that, only to remove him from his recent power. Yes, they're trying to use the event against him, but it can't be constructed as treason and they're always want him dead so to say that they want him dead now thus it must be for the supposed treason is ridiculous.

@BlogWobbles
No user, he deployed the fleet without consulting the Senate (which isn't treason, or at least logically shouldn't be unless Archadia is more illogical that we're shown), however they have nothing else to pin on him. They're trying to use it to pressure Gramis to recall him to Archades and remove his power and freedom away from the capital, not pushing for his execution specifically for that.
Gramis agrees to remove the True Hero's power for the sale of his own, but everyone involved knows that it's not a large step from his power to his life, and should the Senate push for his life there is just as little to stop them as there was in their push for his power.
Again, it is a threat, but not as specific of one as you're saying. You're applying what is a more general threat too specifically, the Senate was using the event as a talking point to present their threat, not as a specific point of it.

King_Martha
King_Martha

@Supergrass
I'd fuck that dragon.

Evil_kitten
Evil_kitten

@RumChicken
Why do you think it's called the "Hearing scene"? (it's officially called that in the ultimania btw).
Because it is a sentencing hearing. They are deciding what to do with the man who destroyed the 8th Fleet.

They aren't talking about "removing him from power," they say he will be dealt like justice to that of his (executed) brothers.
They are talking about executing him as justice for the Leviathan.
There is no other way to interpret that scene. It is not an ambiguous scene, it is cut and it is dry.

They don't need anything else to pin on him than utterly destroying the main branch of their military might. That's not some small excuse, they had every right to assume the worst here.
They don't make a vague threat like "Vayne needs to be stopped."
They specifically mention he needs to be treated like his brothers were (ie executed) at the hands of Gramis.

Just admit you were wrong, and that you had a temporary lapse in memory. It happens to all of us, even the most mightily autistic.
This isn't even an argument to protect Vayne's honor. We aren't even fighting about whether Vayne did something wrong at this point.
We're just fighting over your inability to comprehend unambiguous story events.

Spamalot
Spamalot

@Evil_kitten
the last part
here's the thing for that, its vaynehomo you are talking about. Anything in anyway, shape. or form that makes vayne look bad is either
Not true
not cannon
never happened
just your opinion
makes no logical sense just for this matter but anything else that would be affected in the same manner is fine
to put it simple, there is no end. he will remain this way for good. simple way to avoid any of this is to simply stop talking to him, and about him. Everyone knows he isnt right in the head, so just ignore him and let him continue thinking he is right, even though he's not.

Flameblow
Flameblow

@Spamalot
What makes you think I'm not right? Vayne is the True Hero. What makes you think otherwise?

BunnyJinx
BunnyJinx

@Evil_kitten
"Hearing" doesn't only refer to capital sentencing lad, it can also refer to a hearing regarding other decisions to be made, such as recalling him to Archades and removing him from his post as consul of Rabanastre. You're jumping to conclusions here.
Their discussions of his older brothers are part of the threat user, they help drive the threat home and give it more weight.
There is no way to construct it as treason though, even with the furthest of reaching. The most they could do is accuse of negligence and thus of being unfitting to a position of power (which they do), they can't get outright treason because there is literally nothing for them to go on. The only thing that they have is that it happened under his command. If someone under your command jumped off a building you certainly couldn't be convicted of murder, and even saying that you were negligent because you should have realised that something was wrong is a long stretch. The idea is similar.
And it's far from the main branch of their military, they have plenty of fleets (at least 8 and iirc 13, although honestly I can't remember where I'm getting that number at this point in the night so we'll say 8), so while the loss of one is an issue it's not crippling, and as they aren't at war and the development of the Bahamut is on the horizon it isn't nearly as much of an issue as it would be otherwise. And regardless, there is no evidence to pin cause on him, only negligence at best.
You're purposely interpreting things in an extremely narrow fashion and applying it to a narrow case for reasons I have to discover. The True Hero did nothing wrong regardless of your strange interpretations, but that does not make your interpretations not strange.

StonedTime
StonedTime

@Spamalot
This doesn't even make Vayne look bad though, this just came up in a routine autismal spergfight about the assassination of Senator Gregoroth.
We were going at it as per usual, when it was revealed that Vaynefraud didn't know the senators were going to execute him.

This has no bearing on the rightness of Vayne, it's entirely an error in the Vaynefag.

Evil_kitten
Evil_kitten

Imagine vaynefag's mom asking him what he does on the computer all day

lostmypassword
lostmypassword

@Spamalot
user, in this case the True Hero is still right regardless of if that anon's strange interpretation of that scene is correct or not, we're not arguing that.
Which is logical, as the True Hero has done nothing wrong.
We're arguing over the validity of that anon's strange interpretations.

StonedTime
StonedTime

I can't believe this argument is still going nearly 24 hours later

AwesomeTucker
AwesomeTucker

@Spamalot
You're forgetting "is based on your narrow or misinterpreted construing of events, making your entire premise completely false, lad". The man seems to have an autistic need to be right that even I can't comprehend, and I've seen some truly autistic shit.

Techpill
Techpill

@JunkTop
"babysitting"

Sharpcharm
Sharpcharm

download exvius
notice there's lots of OC donut steels in the support characters and in my rolls
what the shit
check the wiki
most of the available characters are donut steels
only two characters from FF7

Snarelure
Snarelure

@Evil_kitten
implying they havent already disowned him and kicked him out.
you are being too kind to him lad.
@AwesomeTucker
knew i was forgetting something

PackManBrainlure
PackManBrainlure

@Sharpcharm
Reminder that Arianna Grande is a Final Fantasy character.

whereismyname
whereismyname

@BunnyJinx
Treason or negligence is not the point. THAT'S arguing semantics, they want him to pay for destroying the Leviathan at such a critical time.

The fact that they say "lord vayne shall be made to answer for his actions... justice must be served..."
And "Lord Vayne once saw his elder brothers brought to like justice at your exellency's behest"
Leaves no room for interpretation. They are bringing justice upon Vayne for the Leviathan incident, and this justice will take the same form as his brothers.
Execution.

And I'm not even arguing the True Hero's actions here. If anything, the fact that they were going to execute him should lend EVEN MORE credibility to his actions, since it was either the senate lived or he lived. It was self defense for a greater good under the proper interpretation.
But your interpretation paints him as too quick to draw blood for no reason.

Bidwell
Bidwell

@PackManBrainlure
tfw japanese singers have also become FF characters

Burnblaze
Burnblaze

@Sharpcharm
It's actually 50%.
They always have 50-50 donuts to final fantasy, give or take a couple units.

TurtleCat
TurtleCat

Imagine a world where Vaynefag never discovered FFXII. A world where that temendous autism was directed at something productive. He could have been the True Hero our world needs.

farquit
farquit

@Evil_kitten
WHEN
ARE WE GETTING
THIS FUCKING
STAMP

Playboyize
Playboyize

@PackManBrainlure
All four of her

Methshot
Methshot

@whereismyname
No user, they don't care about the Leviathan, they care about using it as a reason to attack him. They could not give a single solitary shit about it unless you paid them to, and even then it would only be a convincing like, they only care so that they can use to it attack their worst enemy at the moment. They're using the event to launch their threat that has nothing to do with it, they're just using it as a starting point, as a talking point.
And yes, you're correct, whether you or I am correct in this has no bearing on the overall morality of the True Hero's actions, but he certainly wasn't too quick to end them regardless. They were, have always been, and would always be, one of the largest obstacles to productivity that could exist and getting rid of them at any point would have been a help. Getting rid of them eventually would have been necessary for the best functioning of Archadia, and it was certainly necessary to carry out the True Hero's goals in game in a relatively timely manner, especially when they had just managed to strip him of most of his power.

Need_TLC
Need_TLC

@Burnblaze

But I don't want donuts. I don't care about the donuts. I want FF characters.

hairygrape
hairygrape

@Playboyize
Are they... The Four Warrianas of Light?

Playboyize
Playboyize

@Need_TLC
then don't play BE

Soft_member
Soft_member

SE community manager is on the BE reddit taking feedback and suggestions
all the top suggestions are fucking worthless shit
I thought reddit was supposed to be smarter and creative. Jesus fuck.

haveahappyday
haveahappyday

@Soft_member
having faith in reddit

girlDog
girlDog

@Need_TLC
Fuck off bagelfag

CouchChiller
CouchChiller

@hairygrape
Okay, I laughed just a little bit.

ZeroReborn
ZeroReborn

@girlDog
implying bagels aren't objectively superior to donuts

RumChicken
RumChicken

@Need_TLC
Then you shouldn't be playing BE. BE tries to be its own thing, building its own world populated by its own characters. Characters from the other FFs don't play a role in the story, they exist separately as an extra way to make dosh. What you should be playing is RK, it's the only one of the mobages that's gonna scratch that itch. It has more FF characters than you can shake a stick at. They just added fucking Marcus for chrissakes.

hairygrape
hairygrape

episode Ravus when

VisualMaster
VisualMaster

@RumChicken
tfw tried playing RK
didn't enjoy anything about it except the available units

if it didn't hurt my eyes I don't like the retro pixel art style, I might enjoy it more

Inmate
Inmate

Fucking garbage rate

BinaryMan
BinaryMan

@VisualMaster
That's a shame, guess you gotta pray for DOO to get a global release then.

Need_TLC
Need_TLC

@Methshot
It doesn't even matter whether their sense of justice is feigned or genuine.
It literally has no bearing on what they intend to do.
Whether the senate was right for accusing Vayne isn't the point here. Odds are excellent that it's feigned, I'll explain more on that later.

The point is, they were going to deliver the same justice to Vayne that was dealt to his brothers. This is outright stated ingame and in the ultimania.
Another point here is that the Senate are the ones who manipulated Gramis and Vayne into killing the other two brothers in the first place.
That's right, they contrived the original treason plot in order to force Gramis to execute his other sons.

反逆するようにそそのかす
Literally means they incited the brothers to commit treason.

They are doing the same thing for Vayne. I wouldn't be surprised if they made Ghis blow up the Leviathan just to contrive this plot.

King_Martha
King_Martha

@Need_TLC
Also of note here is the little blurb that says "they were killed by their father's orders," in case you needed any more evidence that they were executed.

What possible reason could you have to keep holding out on this. It's plainly obvious what the writers intended, there was never any ambiguity.

Carnalpleasure
Carnalpleasure

Playing DQMSL because of the BE collab
Turns out it's kind of fun
Turns out it's also super jew
This sucks, I have two weeks to get 9000 gems for their christmas deal. The game is somehow worse than BE at giving stuff.

Fried_Sushi
Fried_Sushi

My name is Cloud. SOLDIER 1st Class.
10 seconds later
Ex-SOLDIER
What did he mean by this?

eGremlin
eGremlin

@Need_TLC
So all you've been trying to say this whole time is that they want to kill him? Because that's not wrong at all, but holy hell have you been going about it in a strange way.
They weren't going to deliver it, they were saying that they wanted him to meet the same end of being dead.
The Senate was working with the older brothers against the rest of the family yes, and that's why they had to be killed. This isn't part of the argument, but I suppose of you want to say correct but irrelevant things I won't stop you. The Senate didn't want them dead, they were working with the older brothers against the rest of the family; the brothers were killed because they were working with the Senate, that was the treason than they committed to make them worthy of their fates. They didn't contrive the entire thing, the brothers were working with them and thus needed to be removed in the favor of better heirs. The Senate knows the thought process behind this and they are mockingly suggesting that Gramis should do the same with the True Hero, to make way for their "better" heir of Larsa, who they believe will be easier to push around and work with to their own benefit alone.

@King_Martha
All that's trying to say is that the True Hero didn't act alone in that instance, he acted with his father's knowledge, permission, and order. It's saying that his father told him to kill them, not that it was some official act of execution.

MPmaster
MPmaster

@Inmate
What the fuck are you doing

5mileys
5mileys

@MPmaster
Trying to get new job. I'm almost at pity pull

Lord_Tryzalot
Lord_Tryzalot

@eGremlin
It's saying that his father told him to kill them BECAUSE of their treachery.
When you kill someone for a crime, officially or unofficially, this is what we call EXECUTION.
When someone is killed for their actions by the head of state, this is called EXECUTION.

The senate was going to force Gramis to EXECUTE Vayne for his alleged treachery (that they probably orchestrated, just as before).

working with the senate is treason
Are you fucking kidding me?
NO. The brothers were not committing treason by working with the senate. We don't know what treason they committed, but we know that it isn't that. That's literally the OPPOSITE of treason.
But that's neither here nor there.

The only thing, the only ONE THING that matters is that Vayne was going to be executed for a crime (real or fake) had the senate not been dissolved.

WebTool
WebTool

Shitalked Ayaka and how she was going to be upstaged in a few months by Lotus Fina
Pull Ayaka
Shitalked Duke and how he was diluting Mystea's rates instead of the contrary on his banner
Pull Duke
Shitalked all the 4 fiends and didn't do dailies in that trap banner
Pull offbanner Barb anyway
Sephiroth is an overrated soyboy and UGLY to boot.

Basch is a cuck that got denied his main character status because SE execs thought the shirtless faggot with almost no stakes in the story would be the better protagonist.

ZeroReborn
ZeroReborn

I like that Episode Ignis differentiated Ardyn's power from being a Noctis clone.

idontknow
idontknow

@WebTool
Shitalked Duke and how he was diluting Mystea's rates instead of the contrary on his banner

what kind of dumbass would even think this, 5*s don't affect 4* rates at all

Mystea's banner could have 10 5* units on it and her rate wouldn't change

RavySnake
RavySnake

@Booteefool
whats going on here?

Nude_Bikergirl
Nude_Bikergirl

@Lord_Tryzalot
You're not wrong in theory just in application. Perhaps that user was right, and this is largely a semantics issues and you've just been presenting things in a very strange way or perhaps my autism has gotten in the way somehow, while this happens rarely I won't throw this out of possibility, especially given my rushed nature lately.
They weren't trying to execute him specifically for this event, they were just using it as another excuse at an attempt to attack him. While they likely would have tried to do so in the future, they weren't trying to push execution at that moment, just the removal of his power.
Working with the Senate is effectively treason, given how horrible they are for the nation. Working with them is certainly treason against house Solidor at the very least, which merits removal for the sake of more suitable heirs. Working with the senate, a body that literally everyone outside of themselves agrees is horrendous for Archadia, is cause alone for removal, but that coupled with the their position and the fact that working with the Senate necessitates working against the family is why it is easily labels as treason - working with the Senate is working against both Archadia and against their family, treason on two counts. They deserved their deaths.
He wasn't going to be executed for that specific "crime", the Senate were just using it as more ammunition to try and attack the True Hero any way that they could. I'm not sure if that's actually what you're trying to say and you're just saying it by applying it to such a narrow situation that it seems illogical or if you're actually off on something, but either way you're saying it in a strange way.

Snarelure
Snarelure

@RavySnake
a jojo reference

Emberfire
Emberfire

@ZeroReborn
You mean the Gate of Babylon stuff?

Sharpcharm
Sharpcharm

@ZeroReborn
Yeah he even pulled out a massive scythe

Fried_Sushi
Fried_Sushi

@Emberfire
I wonder how /fgog/ responded.

likme
likme

What do you guys think about the alternate ending and how Ignis just pulled a Rebellion Homura?

Methshot
Methshot

@Emberfire
I was really taking about his dark powers, scythe, and being able to do more with his passive armiger than just having it circle around him. Noctis can shot blades at people too.
@Fried_Sushi
Probably didn't care.

farquit
farquit

@Methshot
Alter didn't either

Boy_vs_Girl
Boy_vs_Girl

@WebTool
Pull Barbariccia
Think since she's an inferior TT with AoE maybe I can try shit like Marlboro or Bloody Moon with her
Have no mag TMR other than Letters and Arms
Fucking no one has her as a friend unit
Few ones that do don't accept my invites because I am not changing my Friend Unit to from Fryevia to Barbariccia just to do one or two trials
This is hell. I am almost resorting to begging on Lebbit for good Barb friends.

RavySnake
RavySnake

@Sharpcharm
At least no clone bullshit

TreeEater
TreeEater

@viagrandad
professionally trained military academic
blind cat sneaks up on him

Emberburn
Emberburn

Is 13 Verses or 15's Armiger better? Versus appears to have a bigger range of weapons than the 13 royal arms.

SniperGod
SniperGod

@TreeEater
He's too busy inner monolouging as always
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dsj-sxG1lTo

Nojokur
Nojokur

@Emberburn
versus was a 'shoot for the stars' project in that they really didnt come close to implementing their original ideas. Im sure stella didnt get finalized into the game because they couldnt write her to be a good antagonist without seeming like a huge bitch to players.

Ignoramus
Ignoramus

@Nojokur
Im sure stella didnt get finalized into the game because they couldnt write her to be a good antagonist without seeming like a huge bitch to players.
Sounds more like Square's incompetence rather than a bad idea.

TalkBomber
TalkBomber

Please stop.
Talking about versus only makes me sad.

DeathDog
DeathDog

@Ignoramus
the was the first thing that i thought of when they sowed the stella trailer. "Gee, i wonder if they wrote her not being a huge bitch instead of reluctant enemy." Its probably not the reason, but i like to think so

Lunatick
Lunatick

@TalkBomber
Please post final fantasy characters. That is NOT a final fantasy character. Pic related.

Fuzzy_Logic
Fuzzy_Logic

@Boy_vs_Girl
tries to insult Reddit
Has an account there
It's time to go back kalel

Nojokur
Nojokur

@Lunatick
God dammit Everytime!

viagrandad
viagrandad

@Emberburn
13 Versus. It's not even close.

BinaryMan
BinaryMan

@Nojokur
Well, look at it this way: You can't die if you never existed in the first place. She has that over Lunafreya.

Nojokur
Nojokur

@BinaryMan
You're right user. She'll live forever in our hearts

girlDog
girlDog

Katana Ignis Y/N?

Should the other characters get exclusive weapons or all use same as Noctis like they do now?

Nojokur
Nojokur

Anyone playing Comrades create a set of equipment based around magic/The Pious? I want to create a mage-type character but not sure if I want to create a glass cannon or include VIT/SPR/resists.

ZeroReborn
ZeroReborn

@girlDog
tfw no blind samurai

RavySnake
RavySnake

So are we getting that 15000 lapis Step Up thing or whatever for guaranteed Cloud?

Carnalpleasure
Carnalpleasure

@RavySnake
lol no

Bidwell
Bidwell

@Fuzzy_Logic
What the actual fuck am I looking at?

Stupidasole
Stupidasole

@Nude_Bikergirl
I don't think this is an issue of semantics.
This is a post-hoc rationalization to make up for your initial blunder. You're actively seeking out any pathway that allows your initial episode of faulty memory to pass under the guise of alien vaynefag thought process.

And even then, it doesn't work. There is never a single iota of implication that the hearing was to take vayne out of power nonlethally. In fact, the information we're given suggests that they plan to do to Vayne the same they did to his brothers before him, ie death for "treason."
That specific "treason."

That's why he had to act immediately to dissolve them. They needed to be dissolved eventually, but there's a reason he didn't do it in the first act of the game, or years before the game even began. Vayne is a man who knows his priorities, he didn't act until it was the priority.
That isn't a semantic issue. They were specifically going to use the scapegoat of the Leviathan explosion to kill Vayne (likely by Larsa's hand) to manipulate the boy into doing their will.
The killing part is emphasized, they never once suggest that they're just going to demote him.

Garbage Can Lid
Garbage Can Lid

@Bidwell
yes

viagrandad
viagrandad

go with my top DPS and Marche USB for more turns in Gilg JS
1.1M

go with my 5 dualcasters in Gilg BS
720k

Boy I have some shit damage.

cum2soon
cum2soon

I might get addicted to Mobius MP. No stamina cost is bananas

farquit
farquit

@viagrandad
tfw 200k damagelet
I can b-beat all the fights though, so it's still okay right?
Right?

Supergrass
Supergrass

@girlDog
The katana makes a more fitting weapon for Ignis anyway, since he's such a loyal guy.

Ignoramus
Ignoramus

@Boy_vs_Girl
The absolute state of Barbariccia/Queen//Loren/Knight Delita/Nyx/[Insert inferior chainer here]-fags

Lunatick
Lunatick

@Supergrass
lotta loyalty for a blind cook.

Sir_Gallonhead
Sir_Gallonhead

@likme
Ignis is best boy

BunnyJinx
BunnyJinx

@Bidwell
Bahamut on right side, Omega/Ultima Weapon on left.

Gigastrength
Gigastrength

JUST

VisualMaster
VisualMaster

@Gigastrength
MOTE

FastChef
FastChef

@Sir_Gallonhead
Even if he doomed the world to Ardyn coming back in the future and someone else having to die in Noctis's place?

Fried_Sushi
Fried_Sushi

How do I break 1,000 attack? Switching in Proud Fencer with Iron Duke (highest heavy sword attack I have currently) lowers this

Nojokur
Nojokur

@Fried_Sushi
get adventurer 5

Boy_vs_Girl
Boy_vs_Girl

@Fried_Sushi
Use 2B

Techpill
Techpill

@Fried_Sushi
Adventurer V, SSP - Earth, and/or Prishe's Hairpin.

VisualMaster
VisualMaster

@Fried_Sushi
Get adventurer V + replace the 30% ATK with earth veritas TM

Dreamworx
Dreamworx

@FastChef
More time to prepare. Next time, Ardyn won't be so successful.

w8t4u
w8t4u

@FastChef
implying Noctis as the Chosen King wasn't their only chance and Ignis fucking blew it because he was so pathetic

Dreamworx
Dreamworx

@Fried_Sushi
DV tm, gs mastery, beastlord

Stark_Naked
Stark_Naked

I wanna take down Marlboro n Aigaion. I got WoL, Wilhelm and Mistair, my main damage dealer is Orlandeau, and my best healer is Tilith. Please help me figure out how to set up my dudes beforehand.

girlDog
girlDog

@Dreamworx
proud fencer lowers it

whereismyname
whereismyname

@Stark_Naked
Aigaion
If your best chainer is orlandu then honestly its best to make a team of your best support units, and have an Emperor friend whittle down the arms and body with fire from below.
Marlboro
You probably can't do it. You need a strong form of AoE chaining and you didnt specify if you have any Pod 153s.

SniperWish
SniperWish

@Stupidasole
No user, everything suggests that this was a threat rather than a serious attempt. They had no backing, nothing to use for a serious attempt, they were displaying their power, stating their desires, and making a threat. "Treason" cannot be proven or even slightly implicated in any real way, they're saying that they can resist the emperor for any arbitrary reason and nothing can be done about it and using this to threaten Gramis in to removing the True hero from his power and relative freedom away from the capitol. While they certainly want his death, they aren't arguing for it specifically in that scene, and they certainly aren't doing so in such a direct manner as you're suggesting.
The True Hero didn't get rid of them in the beginning because there was no easy and sure way to do so, he needed Gramis' death (and his agreement to it to make it easier) in order to have a non-risky way of removing the Senate, there was no other potential method before this. True, it got more beneficial to do so once they began trying (and succeeding) in earnest to remove his power and means of acting, but the real issue was that there simply was no safe way to remove them beforehand.

Bidwell
Bidwell

@Gigastrength
tfw 4* vits are unironically my most abundant 4*s
My last couple of unlocks included two berserker spheres too

viagrandad
viagrandad

@girlDog
retard

TalkBomber
TalkBomber

FFXV Episode Vyv when?

WebTool
WebTool

@Bidwell
What did you mean by this post with that image? You know we can see that you're not telling the truth, right?

whereismyname
whereismyname

tfw you pull a great chainer that you want to use over your current one but none of your friends have it and will probably drop you if you change

Burnblaze
Burnblaze

@TalkBomber
Right after Episode Avenida

StrangeWizard
StrangeWizard

@WebTool
?

askme
askme

@Lunatick
Ari!

Spazyfool
Spazyfool

@TalkBomber
Episode Iris never
I want to see her post-timeskip and see if she became stacked or /fit/

King_Martha
King_Martha

@askme
not 1 of her 4 units came with a wrist icicle tmr accessory

likme
likme

@girlDog
I was joking. 30% and blade mastery is a 80% passive on a 130 weapon. proud fencer and gs mastery is a 90% passive on a 118weapon. Without DV tm and a2 tm, you arent getting much else out of gs

viagrandad
viagrandad

@whereismyname
I've got one Pod currently, but I also have an unpotted Onion Knight with no TMR.

farquit
farquit

@Gigastrength
Next raid gives vit motes, thankfully.

Carnalpleasure
Carnalpleasure

@takes2long
I will not get to beat Marlboro.
L M A O

Methshot
Methshot

tfw don't know what to do now that Torment farming is over

Welp, rolling.

1-3: do weekly magicites
4-6: do IX bonus battles
7-9: do Crystal Tower
0: daily greens

Spazyfool
Spazyfool

@Methshot
Which magicite you gonna do?

FastChef
FastChef

So how good is enhanced TTerra for Aigaion and Marlboro?

Methshot
Methshot

Iggy is gay for Noct.

viagrandad
viagrandad

new king mog event coming up friday
elt boss is another Machina

Looks like my robutt will be up for another week.

FastChef
FastChef

@Spazyfool
Liquid Flame, need 5 Mom Bombs and 1 Salamanders before I stop farming this cunt. Thankfully, I can already sub30 it even without chain or Teedus USB.

tfw Dark is one of the more common elements yet I can't into sub30 Mist Dragon

Oh well.

Soft_member
Soft_member

@FastChef
TTerra was a beast for the Malboro fight, the biggest issue I had with her was balancing the rotation of keeping unlocked Chaos Wave active and making sure to KO the adds every 4th turn to prevent Malboro from snorting my tank (on one of my attempts I accidentally killed the adds too quickly which sort of threw everything into chaos for the next 10 turns or so). It's still a bitch of a fight, but she's definitely one of the better options.

BunnyJinx
BunnyJinx

@Methshot
XV fags are so braindead they want to create their own gay fanfiction

VisualMaster
VisualMaster

@BunnyJinx
I bet there's a Kotaku article that covers this.

RavySnake
RavySnake

Threadly reminder that ESLfags are a scourge on this general and need to be purged.

GoogleCat
GoogleCat

Ho ho ho! Only 12 more sleeps until Christmas morning! If you play one (or more) of the mobages, are the Christmas events something you'll be pulling on or will you be saving through the holiday season?

ZeroReborn
ZeroReborn

@GoogleCat
Dont think i dont recognize where thats from

PackManBrainlure
PackManBrainlure

@SniperWish
The means they possess are not physical, but psychological.
They killed off the other two brothers solidor in the EXACT same way. They gave Gramis no choice in the matter.
Then they tried to do it again, and seemingly succeeded until Gramis sat down and talked with Vayne. Gramis's talk was the only thing that saved him from death.

And this is stated in game. Vayne will be brought to the same justice his brothers were: death.
Gramis agrees to this. He calls Vayne home to have him arrested.
Nothing else is stated.

The Senate would have successfully killed Vayne over this if not for Gramis's plan (which was his own plan, not Vayne's, to be clear)

farquit
farquit

@GoogleCat
None of them even have Christmas events announced yet, this is a silly question.

LuckyDusty
LuckyDusty

@GoogleCat
i'll be pulling on both the christmas and king's knight banner.

Supergrass
Supergrass

tfw two pots in one round
gysahl drops are trash but this was nice

kizzmybutt
kizzmybutt

@Supergrass
persons whomst don't farm greens in pug mp raids

Nude_Bikergirl
Nude_Bikergirl

Hey, would anyone be up for carrying me through the U+ IX raid? I still need a clear.

Emberfire
Emberfire

@Nude_Bikergirl
give me a few minutes

Snarelure
Snarelure

@LuckyDusty
pulling for donuts
AND pulling for christmas donuts

eGremlin
eGremlin

@Emberfire
Sure thing.

GoogleCat
GoogleCat

@Snarelure
Your obsession with hating donuts is retarded. Seen you bitch about donuts day after day... seriously just kys already.

MPmaster
MPmaster

@eGremlin
You know what? I don't like your tone. That's no way to talk to someone who's gonna carry your ass.
Carry yourself.

StonedTime
StonedTime

@farquit
We know about events for all three.

Illusionz
Illusionz

@MPmaster
rude

lostmypassword
lostmypassword

@StonedTime
Yeah? So what's BE's Christmas event going to be?

Carnalpleasure
Carnalpleasure

@lostmypassword
Yeah? So what's BE's Christmas event going to be?

Firespawn
Firespawn

@eGremlin
room is up 7243

Stark_Naked
Stark_Naked

@Firespawn
Sure, I'll come on down

PackManBrainlure
PackManBrainlure

@Firespawn
This is going to be an embarrassing question: how do you join raids? Every time I've been the one to host.

Raving_Cute
Raving_Cute

@ZeroReborn
HO HO HO

Aggressive Aerith is the best.

likme
likme

@Firespawn
select raid ID in raid menu and put in 7243

CodeBuns
CodeBuns

@Raving_Cute
Did Ken Akamatsu make that?

Lunatick
Lunatick

@PackManBrainlure
Events screen > Raid Dungeons > Raid ID Search, enter 7243

Although if you're the one in need of a carry, you should be hosting. I see another guy hosting his own room right now, don't know if that's you or not

Sharpcharm
Sharpcharm

@Snarelure
FF is the donuts to king's knight

viagrandad
viagrandad

@likme
Oh gotcha, I had to back out to the main raid screen. I can't find any parties with that ID though, I think it must have filled up.

GoogleCat
GoogleCat

@viagrandad
They did so make your own room after we finish this one

Nude_Bikergirl
Nude_Bikergirl

@CodeBuns
That may have been his doujin name, but I don't remember if it was confirmed or not.

JunkTop
JunkTop

@GoogleCat
I'm on it. Sorry for being so slow.

kizzmybutt
kizzmybutt

@viagrandad
We can help you out. Come in Discord, I have a proposal for you.

Bidwell
Bidwell

@Raving_Cute
why doesn't yuffie ever button up her shorts?

Burnblaze
Burnblaze

@Snarelure
you're the only donut here.

TechHater
TechHater

Whats the best job classes for mobius?

So far I got my hands on the Mythic Ninja, Judge, SeeD and Dark Knight.

Also got Lightning Legendary skin.

Any ideas on a good deck?

Nude_Bikergirl
Nude_Bikergirl

New Thread

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Harmless_Venom
Harmless_Venom

@Nude_Bikergirl
Art style reminds me of A.I. Love You or early Love Hina.

Crazy_Nice
Crazy_Nice

@Harmless_Venom
I've seen art for Cu Little that they file under Akamatsu, but I thought it was like a Bomber Grape/guy that does Daily Lives of High School Boys situation, where they didn't admit it.

Raving_Cute
Raving_Cute

@PackManBrainlure
We know nothing of the older brother's involvement with the Senate except that they worked with them, and the implication is that this was done willingly hence why they needed to be removed as traitors. There's nothing to support the Senate having been behind that purposely, and implications to the opposite. What they're trying to do to the True Hero isn't unheard of, and their wish to have him out of the way in favor of Larsa is well known, but there is nothing to suggest that they did it before except your own strange interpretations.
The True Hero was never arrested, there is nothing stated this, he was simply removed from his position as consul and forced to return to Archades. There is nothing every mentioned or stated of arrests lad, you're pulling things out of even stranger places now.
The Senate's next step would have been to pressure an ill Gramis to agree with their choice of heir and work towards manipulating Larsa towards their own ends (and against the True Hero) while whittling down what remained of the True Hero's power and working against him all they could. While they might have tried to push the matter, there truly is nothing to go on, so they likely would have instead focused on other means. With Larsa on their side (as they thought) and on the throne they accomplish most of their desires, and shuffling around the True Hero while removing what remained of his power would have been the much more logical choice to them in that case.
You're still pulling strange interpretations out of nowhere, and while it's admirable that you've stuck by yourself this long and it does show conviction (or at least dedication to shitposting), you are still off the mark. There was never any serious talk of arrests or treason regarding the True Hero, they were just using the events as an excuse to strip some of his power and return him to a place where he is less free to act without knowledge while making mocking threats to Gramis to get their way.

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