/svg/ - Shadowverse General

haveahappyday
haveahappyday

bampi chan sugoi sushi edition

Latest expansion pack is Chronogenesis
https://shadowverse.com/cardpack/chronogenesis/
Chronogenesis anniversary leaders - Albert, Cerberus, Dark General

NEWS
No nerfs in December
https://shadowverse.com/news/?announce_id=483
Rotation, formats, new class
https://shadowverse.com/news/?announce_id=442

Official Website
https://shadowverse.com/

Official deckbuilder and card database
https://shadowverse-portal.com/

Useful Links
https://pastebin.com/SZNKYEMi

Sugoi Dakara: /vg/thread/201605287#p201605287

All urls found in this thread:
https://shadowverse.com/cardpack/chronogenesis/
https://shadowverse.com/news/?announce_id=483
https://shadowverse.com/news/?announce_id=442
https://shadowverse.com/
https://shadowverse-portal.com/
https://pastebin.com/SZNKYEMi
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uT_hkrKWiwU
https://shadowverse.com/news/?announce_id=500
https://exhentai.org/g/1169287/a972c19bb5/
https://twitter.com/Coq_Slayer/status/950673664919269377
https://shadowlog.com/trend/2018/1/3/
https://shadowlog.com/trend/2018/1/4/
https://twitter.com/otohymen/status/952246998786289664
https://www.openrec.tv/live/uDu75O22zWG
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PbjIj81gup0&t=14m00s
https://twitter.com/DnoKaoruo1996/status/952152612400283648
Fried_Sushi
Fried_Sushi

Die Luna

Raving_Cute
Raving_Cute

IKUZO!

SomethingNew
SomethingNew

Post some meme Decks.

TurtleCat
TurtleCat

I hate dragonniggers so fucking much

takes2long
takes2long

@Fried_Sushi
She has carrots to keep her healthy.

cum2soon
cum2soon

you can remove shadow, dragon, or rune, along with a single archetype of another class from the game completely
what do you choose?

Burnblaze
Burnblaze

@cum2soon
(you) of course, vampyshitter

Evilember
Evilember

Oz
now only reduce the cost of the spells she draws and reduce them to 2PP instead of 1PP

Illusionist
lost last word after it is triggered

Ceres
5PP

Thane
3/4 stat, only summon 1 wight, and the wight king from last word is not 0PP anymore

Eachtar
only the zombie he summons has rush

Khawy
destroy a random enemy follower instead of the one with the highest attack

Aiela
no longer gives PP on evo, unless it is turn 5 or later

Salamander's breath
remove enhance

Dread Sea's Queen
19PP, cost 1PP less for each card in your hand, including this card

I am going to compile every nerf suggestion and merge them into one post for the start of the thread from now on. If you have any nerf suggestion. feel free to quote this post and I will include (and merge) all the nerfs links to this post. Only valid nerfs will be included (invalid nerfs: something something win the game, something something your opponent something something irl)

Let's see how much /svg/ can nerf before the end of the month comes.

Methnerd
Methnerd

@Evilember
nerfing ceres
kys ungashitter

SniperWish
SniperWish

How long till possible nerfs?
Would like to start playing again but i can't like this meta

CouchChiller
CouchChiller

@Methnerd
Not seeing you defending Sibyl before bastard shadownigger.

Nude_Bikergirl
Nude_Bikergirl

@Evilember
oz is 10pp
illusionist is 8pp
ceres is 8pp
thane is a 10pp 1/1
eachtar is a 10pp 1/1 that summons only one zombie
khawy is a 10pp 1/1
aiela is 6pp
salamander is 10pp enhanced
dread doesn't change the card cost to 0

Flameblow
Flameblow

How is Forest fair. I ask myself everyday. Brambles, Venus, Lily, Erin, fucking JUNGLE (three three of them and elephant!) is too much.

askme
askme

@SniperWish
2 more weeks. Hold in there bro!!

lostmypassword
lostmypassword

Fita, ureshii des!

VisualMaster
VisualMaster

@lostmypassword
Shut the fuck up

Methnerd
Methnerd

@lostmypassword
its fito you fucking shitstain

Booteefool
Booteefool

@Flameblow
It doesn't kill you before turn 9 if Loki in hand or turn10 if no loki

Burnblaze
Burnblaze

hit 150 with cannon
Nice tier 1 deck

Flameblow
Flameblow

@SomethingNew
It's great when it works.

Emberfire
Emberfire

Considering the chest event and the fact that they said they'd drop emergency nerfs if needed made me expect something by this point considering we all know what's fucking the game up. Everyone and their mother could see Midrange Shadow, Burn Rune and Ramp Dragon dominating rotation simply because they are the decks that lost the least or in the case of Shadow got good replacements for most of the cards it lost other than Soul Conversion.

Not knowing what was coming my ass.

GoogleCat
GoogleCat

@Flameblow
You should seriously put Zeus because you don't have any wincon there

SniperGod
SniperGod

@Fried_Sushi
She belongs to this world and you're not.

FastChef
FastChef

@GoogleCat
you don't have any wincon there
That's on purpose.

Deadlyinx
Deadlyinx

@Emberfire
Stop being a parrot and liar. If you don't play this game or rotation you might as well shut up.

Deadlyinx
Deadlyinx

@Deadlyinx
Do explain where the lie is. Burn Rune, Midrange Shadow and Ramp Dragon shit over everything on rotation and even this general saw it coming. Maybe it's different at B rank or whatever but noone cares about that.

Ignoramus
Ignoramus

@Deadlyinx
Maybe it's different at B rank or whatever but noone cares about that.
Tried too hard now, B rank-san.

BlogWobbles
BlogWobbles

@Ignoramus
So you have no argument other than shifting the conversation away from my original point, nice.

MPmaster
MPmaster

vs rune
18 to 0 from silver blade golem runes in one turn

takes2long
takes2long

@Deadlyinx
Elephant Forest is the strongest deck in rotation in my opinion. They only have one bad matchup in Midshadow.
Haven is also very strong.
I would even say that Dragon is worse than these two in my experience.

Harmless_Venom
Harmless_Venom

@MPmaster
Nerf Rose Queen

Nojokur
Nojokur

Take two
Cauldron Telescope Illusionist Karl Levi Falise (with the perfect amount of neutrals) Chain Lighting
Cool fucking match.

idontknow
idontknow

@takes2long
Elephant Forest is the strongest deck in rotation in my opinion
LMAO
It has even less winrate than Burn going first

FastChef
FastChef

33283
please help with daily mission

Crazy_Nice
Crazy_Nice

Someone tell me why Chain Lightning is bad.
Fucking lost 3 games in a row because of it and I'm starting to think that it's a broken card.

haveahappyday
haveahappyday

Who else going for the 5 free packs

TechHater
TechHater

@haveahappyday
get a life

ZeroReborn
ZeroReborn

@Crazy_Nice
The card is ridiculous, 6 damage to face t10 or more with oz

SniperWish
SniperWish

@idontknow
So, you only base yourself and play SV through reading shitpostings and checking self-reported data from shadowlog? Why are you even here?

JunkTop
JunkTop

@Evilember
Oz 6pp - no other changes
Illusionist 2pp - 1/2
Ceres 5pp
Thane - Wight king at full PP
Eachtar - +2 only Shadow followers. Rush summon followers
Summit - become token
Ramp - opponent gain 1 extra pp only the turn after you ramp

PackManBrainlure
PackManBrainlure

@Crazy_Nice
On release I thought it was basically 5pp Demonic Strike since it'd always get banished by Oz, then I did 12 damage on a couple of turns to a dude and now I think that everyone not running at least a copy on both Daria and Burn Rune is an idiot.

GoogleCat
GoogleCat

@ZeroReborn
It really is.
I thought you're supposed to punish players for regurgitating their hand, not reward it.

Raving_Cute
Raving_Cute

I wish they would replace the last reward with a Globe. Then it might actually be worth grinding out all those points in a month instead of just stopping after I get the sleeves.

hairygrape
hairygrape

@Raving_Cute
I'm a turbo autist who's been playing since DE and not even I could get the 10k reward once.

5mileys
5mileys

@hairygrape
Would you have done it for a globe?

Lunatick
Lunatick

@5mileys
No. I have enough vials for over 20 globes.

Inmate
Inmate

@SniperWish
Don't pretend Elephant is stronger than Dirt who kills you faster, MidShadow who kills you faster and in more ways or Dragon who kills basically everything
Atleast it fair even agaist Dragon because 20 face damage OTK but if you miss a piece of the combo, well, too bad
MidSword does fine agaist Elephant too
You also need atleast two Aerin in hand by turn6 for survive Dirt
Mind you, Elephant isn't by any means a bad deck but saying it's the strongest in rotation is pure delusion

likme
likme

33283
help me on the daily mission

CodeBuns
CodeBuns

second Jeanne
2/3 Jeanne
0/3 Danzai
0/3 Aether
0/3 Snow White

I bet my 2 Aegis gonna rotate out before i can afford to play any of them

farquit
farquit

I really like how people don't know how to deal with Khawy.
Sometimes they have board advantage and they would throw it away just so I don't get the heals.
Then I drop another Khawy next turn.

SniperWish
SniperWish

@Inmate
Forest runs two Elf Queens now to win against Dirt for free.

Techpill
Techpill

@Crazy_Nice
Because albert without leaving a body is bad even if it bypasses wards. Thank you

Illusionz
Illusionz

@likme
F fello nep bro

Fried_Sushi
Fried_Sushi

@Crazy_Nice
If you're losing to a literal 5pp Demonic Strike, something must've gone terribly wrong way before that

Evil_kitten
Evil_kitten

taboos has a 50% chance to hit the right thing on two occasions
fails both times
opponent hits him with some "random target" shit 3 times out of 5 targets
i want off this ride

Illusionz
Illusionz

playing autopilot shadow deck
didn't realize i didn't have enough shadow for squisher
Well, that was embarrassing.

RavySnake
RavySnake

Can anyone concede to me for the private match quest?
90509

Flameblow
Flameblow

@Illusionz
Some guy just shame conceded recently to me because of that

King_Martha
King_Martha

How do you feel when you ramp but still loses to much slower deck?

haveahappyday
haveahappyday

@SomethingNew
The classic.

Poker_Star
Poker_Star

I'm playing against a weird neutral rune deck.
SahaIsa needs to get nerfed. Or Zeus. Fuck those combo.

Firespawn
Firespawn

@farquit
I hate that all Shadow decks look exactly like Mid Shadow until they drop cards like him so you don't see him coming.

Illusionz
Illusionz

if you use animated mystic ring it animates whatever it targets
easy animated bahamut

massdebater
massdebater

@Poker_Star
Saha rotates in 2 1/2 months along with Bahamut, Israfil and Zeus will be fine when they're gone.

Sir_Gallonhead
Sir_Gallonhead

Shadowverse FTW

Flameblow
Flameblow

Which class would you recommend for a starter? I just downloaded the game. I used to play some hearthstone and liked the playstyle of mage and priest decks.

SomethingNew
SomethingNew

@Flameblow
Sword. Then go for Blood/Rune then Dragon.

Supergrass
Supergrass

@Flameblow
Portal probably needs to craft/buy the least amount of packs because all their cards are in one expansion. Be warned though, they're fucking shit.
Rune is the one that has the most spell.
And the game doesn't really have any HS priest mechanics (like taking control over minions?) but Haven does have healing but a deck focused on healing is also shit.

Just play the class that has your best rolls in them. Post here if you need help.

SniperWish
SniperWish

@Flameblow
You're I haven't played Hearthstone so I can't make comparison s but you can try Dirt Rune which is a pretty cheap deck.

I'd recommend you stay away from rotation for a while until you build up a large collection as decks in rotation cost a lot more in vials than ones in unlimited. Storm Haven and Aggro Blood are other decks that are top tier in unlimited and pretty easy to pilot.

Booteefool
Booteefool

@Flameblow
In rotation the current dirt runecraft deck plays like aggro mage and dshift rune plays like quest mage in unlimited. They released a card that gives you permanent stacking spell damage this expansion for a control variant but it's largely unexplored right now because of how strong dirt is.

Havencraft plays somewhat like priest in that you have healing and removal at your disposal but the closest thing to Raza priest is a very expensive blood deck that needs niche legendaries to make work.

PackManBrainlure
PackManBrainlure

rotation cblood deck
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uT_hkrKWiwU

SomethingNew
SomethingNew

@PackManBrainlure
DOKE

RumChicken
RumChicken

KUBI O OTOSU

GoogleCat
GoogleCat

@JunkTop
Summit - become token

What?

CodeBuns
CodeBuns

@GoogleCat
My only guess is that it would become a 1/1 follower instead of cycling.

SniperWish
SniperWish

@CodeBuns
how to kill a deck archetype in 1 nerf

Soft_member
Soft_member

I havn't played for a while, but I play Nep
Is it impossible for me to beat a neutral forest? I don't know what I can do except switch to a balls deep aggro deck against them.

captcha is la funeraire

Flameblow
Flameblow

@SniperWish
1/4?

PackManBrainlure
PackManBrainlure

What ever happened to this guy? I remember /svg/ jizzing about him being broken but I looked at him and thought he was a bad floral/cudgel clone.
This meta would be perfect for him, 2pp mord, shadow bullshit and snow white. All great targets.

Playboyize
Playboyize

@PackManBrainlure
you have to play portal is the problem

LuckyDusty
LuckyDusty

Israfil's stats changed from 8/8 to 6/8 and her effect only damages followers.
Zues's stats changed from 5/10 to 4/9
Bahamut's stats changed from 13/13 to 11/11 and it's effect now destroys two of your play point orbs when played.

Thane's stats change from 4/5 to 3/4. Wright King's cost which was produced from Thane's last word changed to 1 PP.
Eachtar's now gives +2/+0 to zombies and +1/+0 to other followers.

Master Mage Levi's effect now deals 2 damage instead of 3.
Oz's effect no longer reduces the cost of cards that cost 6 PP or more.
Illusionist effect is now tied to a fanfare.

Elephant King's effect now sets it's attack and defense equal to the number of cards in your hand + 1.

Fried_Sushi
Fried_Sushi

@LuckyDusty
israfil and zeus over dreadqueen
nigga what

Booteefool
Booteefool

everyone thought Haven would be dumpster in Rotation without Themis and Aria
turns out they're still pretty great because of a single overtuned 1 pp amulet
Haven is just a few cards away from being stupid tier 0 cancer. I knew Summit Temple was one of the best new cards in GC. That thing is more powerful than most 4 pp or 5 pp amulets. I mean fucking support cannon is 5 pp and it's still shit even if it was 3 or 4 pp.

Boy_vs_Girl
Boy_vs_Girl

@LuckyDusty
It's effect now destroys two of your play point orbs when played.
Wow way to make dragon the only class we can risk playing Bahamut

SomethingNew
SomethingNew

@LuckyDusty
no nerf to haven
Prepare your butt, Eris will rape you.

BlogWobbles
BlogWobbles

was planning on starting to save for next expac
build up 600 coins
start getting a burning wallet thinking about 3 months of not opening packs
got cerb and albert, but still missing a couple of legos and gold as well as THE FUCKING BRONZE
fuck it
buy 6 packs
1st one had Dork General
didn't care if I got her in the first place
For my greed, I'm not gonna get Moon Bunny am I

w8t4u
w8t4u

@PackManBrainlure
Waste of an evo. Substitution is better.

5mileys
5mileys

THIJS IS STREAM

I REPEAT THIJS IS STREAM!!!

Stark_Naked
Stark_Naked

@5mileys
literally who

askme
askme

@PackManBrainlure
Literally useless if you don't draw him by turn 4 or 5.

StrangeWizard
StrangeWizard

@5mileys
No clue who that is but you should probbly go back to /hsg/.

idontknow
idontknow

@5mileys
hs streamer
sponsored stream i.e. its fucking nothing
streams at all
You have to go back

Carnalpleasure
Carnalpleasure

i have exactly 3500 vial. who should i vial?

Snarelure
Snarelure

@5mileys
I ask, what level might I have to be to possible be part of such stream?

StrangeWizard
StrangeWizard

@5mileys
peak my head in
chat is basically whining and moaning about if/when he's going to play HS
Some people complaining about the art style while HS is hardly something to look at
literally no reason to get excited.

Ignoramus
Ignoramus

when did this game go to such shit.

Carnalpleasure
Carnalpleasure

@Ignoramus
How the fuck can you play with a screen this small?

eGremlin
eGremlin

@Carnalpleasure
there's a guy who plays with a 100x100 screen while at work

w8t4u
w8t4u

@GoogleCat
Only attainable via Cattleya

viagrandad
viagrandad

KRIPP IS STREAM

I REPEAT KRIPP IS STREAM

New_Cliche
New_Cliche

@5mileys
@viagrandad
back to your shitty general and take your wojak spammers with you

askme
askme

@viagrandad
@5mileys
HS is so shit they come to our general to spam
Pretty sad.

iluvmen
iluvmen

@viagrandad
Based Krippian bros.

TurtleCat
TurtleCat

Have two Support cannons on the field
There's one enemy follower on the field
Play a commander
First Support Cannon kills the follower
Second Cannon doesn't fire instead of hitting face

This is the third game I've lost to this bug, where do I yell at Cy Games to fix?

w8t4u
w8t4u

buy the new year crystal deal
haven't had a legendary from any packs since
Do I need to buy normal crystals to get my luck back?

Need_TLC
Need_TLC

someone post the amelia cards

Sharpcharm
Sharpcharm

@w8t4u
You could just stop being a lucklet

Deadlyinx
Deadlyinx

@w8t4u
spent bux
still no luck
I know the feel man.

Stark_Naked
Stark_Naked

@Deadlyinx
Do I need to emasculate you just so you can stop posting this?

New_Cliche
New_Cliche

@Stark_Naked
Fine ill delete it from my folder.

Sharpcharm
Sharpcharm

Can I get a concede please?

ID: 26316

ZeroReborn
ZeroReborn

@Sharpcharm
thank you very much user.

Spazyfool
Spazyfool

EpicOtakuZames is streaming holy shit

Carnalpleasure
Carnalpleasure

201701770
Kill yourself

BlogWobbles
BlogWobbles

Thread is deader than Luna. NEXTO

lostmypassword
lostmypassword

@BlogWobbles
Luna isn't dead though.

BlogWobbles
BlogWobbles

why are we so dead bros

Lord_Tryzalot
Lord_Tryzalot

@BlogWobbles
bros
Because plebbit newfags like you constantly ruin the thread for everyone who wants to talk about the game.

lostmypassword
lostmypassword

card idn't able to attack
description says that the evolved card can't attack either
opponent evolves the card
is able to do big boy damage
REEEE

DeathDog
DeathDog

Ok, I have 22k vials, should I craft elephant-forest, ramp-dragon, or Nacht-blood

Sharpcharm
Sharpcharm

@lostmypassword
if you're playing against portal, it can attack if evolved during resonance.

Booteefool
Booteefool

@DeathDog
thanks for letting us know

Spamalot
Spamalot

@Sharpcharm
It was a dragon card.

TreeEater
TreeEater

@DeathDog
You know in your heart that you want to play Nacht.

Techpill
Techpill

Holy shit, burn rune is so fucking strong in rotation. Im 2500MP atm, i think i can reach GM this month. Idk if its worth it without the top reward though.

Inmate
Inmate

@lostmypassword
REEEE
You have to go back.

BlogWobbles
BlogWobbles

@Spamalot
Ragewyrm?

SniperGod
SniperGod

@lostmypassword
Learn to read, retard.

Illusionz
Illusionz

@Inmate
You have to go back.

This shit started on Veeky Forums you fucking newfag lmao stop embarrassing yourself

whereismyname
whereismyname

@Illusionz
lmao
Like I said, you have to go back, newfag.

JunkTop
JunkTop

you have to go back
no u
no u
you are a faget
no u
no u
dragoncraft is pet class
no its shadow
no its rune
sword is honest guys
Tired of this episode already.

Need_TLC
Need_TLC

@whereismyname
Chasing people away from his dead general
LMAO

Harmless_Venom
Harmless_Venom

@Need_TLC
Shitty newfags like you who never bothered to lurk are only damaging this general.

Dreamworx
Dreamworx

@Harmless_Venom
waahhh my secret club!!

sounds like youre the newfag, pal

VisualMaster
VisualMaster

quest to complete
unranked is just ramp dragon and dirt rune

BinaryMan
BinaryMan

@Dreamworx
Yeah whatever, just fuck off back to your subreddit.

kizzmybutt
kizzmybutt

@LuckyDusty
Elephant King's effect now sets it's attack and defense equal to the number of cards in your hand + 1.
That's what it already does, numbnuts

whereismyname
whereismyname

@kizzmybutt
no, his change prevents it from being affected by loki

haveahappyday
haveahappyday

@TurtleCat
Not a bug.
Both cannons trigger at the same time, looking for a follower.
Once it's dead the 2nd cannon didn't find a follower to shoot at, therefore it fizzles.

Need_TLC
Need_TLC

@whereismyname
While I see your point, is nerfing LokiElephant really that big a deal? I haven't seen that shit anywhere and it's the only decent application for Loki anyway.

iluvmen
iluvmen

If a mission gives classic packs, it's still better than raw rupies because of the free vials right?

Fuzzy_Logic
Fuzzy_Logic

@iluvmen
no

Methshot
Methshot

@iluvmen
yes

Evilember
Evilember

@iluvmen
Rupies are far more valuable than vials.

Lord_Tryzalot
Lord_Tryzalot

@iluvmen
Don't classic packs become new packs when the next expansion comes out?

Sir_Gallonhead
Sir_Gallonhead

@iluvmen
Rupies is better now because you can buy pack with leader. If you dont care about leader, just go with pack reward.

viagrandad
viagrandad

I am true oldfag :D
Go back to your subreddit btw ha-ha

BunnyJinx
BunnyJinx

@Evilember
Only if you get 100 from a single mission.
The only thing you miss out on is a single gacha spin on leaders.

New_Cliche
New_Cliche

@BunnyJinx
Also a chance on getting golds/legos without the need to craft them compared to lousy amount of vials you'd get from vialling a classic pack. Also animated chances on cards worth a damn if you're into that. Classic packs are auto-reroll tier.

Spazyfool
Spazyfool

@iluvmen
The worst outcome for a pack is 130 vials. Which isn't enough to craft a silver.

SniperWish
SniperWish

I've saved about 900 rupies so far. I'll surely get Almi'raj r-right?

Stark_Naked
Stark_Naked

@New_Cliche
90% of your packs are nothing but vials anyway. I'd rather reroll a low rupie daily than throw away free crafting materials.

takes2long
takes2long

@Stark_Naked
I'd rather get 20 gold than have to play 6-7 matches for a shitty pack.

Firespawn
Firespawn

@SniperWish
1500 here. You already have Daria, Exella and Cerb right?

BinaryMan
BinaryMan

shadow has 4 zombies on board and 2 cards on hand and i have themis on hand
bait out eachtar by putting down a weak ass ward and an amulet
he does it but leaves me with 7 hp
themis
AISHA
those two shouldn't be allowed on the same deck, fuck that shit

StrangeWizard
StrangeWizard

How much of a meme is a guardian sun-satan+tarnished grail deck? I feel like playing some memes. It's either that or rose queen otk.

Lord_Tryzalot
Lord_Tryzalot

@takes2long
6-7 wins is a big deal
Sounds like you should switch to solo missions.

Ignoramus
Ignoramus

@BinaryMan
themis

happy_sad
happy_sad

@StrangeWizard
Sun satan is legit, i get consistent winstreaks with it, however, i'm not sure about putting grail on it, the deck structure required to make each of them work is quite different

Flameblow
Flameblow

Thoughts on Mabigoni Duel? A CCG besides SV to waste time on while waiting of Magic, since I wasn't privileged enough to get into the beta.

Crazy_Nice
Crazy_Nice

@BinaryMan
banish
banish
banish
not enough shadows for Eachtar to summon zombies
time to finish the game with Aisha
danzai blocks the path
How do you even lose to shadow as haven these days?

Playboyize
Playboyize

@Crazy_Nice
by not playing broken shit like summit because i don't have enough vials for it

Methshot
Methshot

@Flameblow
holy fuck go shill somewhere else, we had enough shills with dqr already

Snarelure
Snarelure

@Methshot
muh shills
I'm just asking an innocent question, faggot.

RumChicken
RumChicken

@Flameblow
I don't even know what that is so it's a good indicator that it's irrelevant and/or shit.

Sharpcharm
Sharpcharm

@Flameblow
It's made by Koreans. That's an automatic red flag.

Skullbone
Skullbone

@Snarelure
go in a general dedicated to one game, where you talk about only one specific game
"hey guys how is *insert shitty unknown competitor*? ;)"
fuck you shill, I'm sick of retards like you thinking we are all idiots

SniperGod
SniperGod

@happy_sad
I was thinking about making it more of a tarnished grail deck than a satan one. I'd put only one satan to have another win condition in the case I can't comfortably play the grail or if I downright never draw it. I'll see what I do.

Raving_Cute
Raving_Cute

@SniperGod
In the case of grail, you have plenty of tutors for it, provided you're willing to skimp a bit on the countdown amulets, you will probably want to run only globe, teatime and tribunal, you can usually draw it quite reliably, like seraph decks do

BinaryMan
BinaryMan

@Skullbone
You're indeed one of the idiots. I ask it here because I post here regularly for almost two years.

TreeEater
TreeEater

@BinaryMan
sure, it's totally the right place to ask such a question
I hope you get paid good money for humiliating yourself like this.

viagrandad
viagrandad

Why are you still playing this game?

Ignoramus
Ignoramus

the shill got mad boys

Stark_Naked
Stark_Naked

@viagrandad
I love gambling.

Fuzzy_Logic
Fuzzy_Logic

@viagrandad
Why are you still shitting this general?

viagrandad
viagrandad

@Crazy_Nice
How do you even lose to shadow these days?

JunkTop
JunkTop

@Stark_Naked
you have to go back

viagrandad
viagrandad

@Playboyize
summit being better than old aegis, let alone being the best archetype
it really shows that you didn't try it

Firespawn
Firespawn

@viagrandad
By going 2nd with a non-wallet.

idontknow
idontknow

@JunkTop
This retard just can't calm down.

Lord_Tryzalot
Lord_Tryzalot

@BinaryMan
I ask it here because I post here regularly for almost two years.
Not an argument. I regularly post on /a/ does not mean I will ask their opinion about RWBY.

CouchChiller
CouchChiller

@Stark_Naked
better pic

CouchChiller
CouchChiller

first
first
first
first
Fuck me.

eGremlin
eGremlin

@CouchChiller
complaining about free wins

RavySnake
RavySnake

@Raving_Cute
I played my heart out this expansion and I am still at 30k.

Harmless_Venom
Harmless_Venom

@eGremlin
free wins
Not for my deck.

JunkTop
JunkTop

@Harmless_Venom
Then don't play special snowflake decks.

Nojokur
Nojokur

Is Elta really that good or is it a meme?

Booteefool
Booteefool

@Nojokur
If you're playing board especially against Bahamut or anything with strong Fanfare

MPmaster
MPmaster

56476
Pass the concede bro

DeathDog
DeathDog

@Booteefool
I kinda want to make a Blood deck with 3 Elta and 3 Galretto just so I can maybe have a chance to counter Dragon and their stupid turn 6 Zeus

PurpleCharger
PurpleCharger

@Crazy_Nice
I will admit that with the right amount of banishes you will not play Eachtar and Aisha back to back but once you drop Thane on 7 you are never going to have less than 8 shadows again.

cum2soon
cum2soon

@JunkTop
I don't need d rank tier advices.

StonedTime
StonedTime

@cum2soon
anyone who doesn't play bad meme decks is d rank
(You)

massdebater
massdebater

@DeathDog
Thane as a complete package contributes exactly 0 shadows.

Spamalot
Spamalot

@StonedTime
the deck is bad just because it benefits more from second turn
D rank indeed.

New_Cliche
New_Cliche

@MPmaster
Thanks quick boy

SomethingNew
SomethingNew

@Spamalot
:^)
Every single good deck at the moment benefits a lot from going first. If your meme deck wants to go second, it's not one of them, and thus it's logically not a good deck.

TalkBomber
TalkBomber

@Nojokur
I run him in Ginger to protect against Baha. He's in some Atomy decks too.

TreeEater
TreeEater

@Spamalot
No archetype in current meta favors going 2nd. Some decks like Dragon are at best completely unaffected by it.
Tell us more about your deck.

BunnyJinx
BunnyJinx

So how does this bonus score bug works? The site said that it happens when you are GM in one mode and have a winstreak on the other one but I do not see any additional points being given to me.

Spazyfool
Spazyfool

So I can earn win streak up until AA3 instead of B3?
Man, how long did I stay in A0 then unranked in there.

eGremlin
eGremlin

@BunnyJinx
It was already fixed.

Fuzzy_Logic
Fuzzy_Logic

@TreeEater
Going second can be an advantage for dragon.

happy_sad
happy_sad

@BunnyJinx
You can benefit from win streaks past B3 to catch up with your higher rating.

BunnyJinx
BunnyJinx

@eGremlin
Shit. I am always late.

Soft_member
Soft_member

@SomethingNew
Every single good deck at the moment benefits a lot from going first.
You mean tier 1 decks, right? Any deck can be good if it can produce huge winstreaks and reach gm, would you argue?
@TreeEater
I was not talking about archetypes.

Harmless_Venom
Harmless_Venom

@Soft_member
You mean tier 1 decks, right?
I mean all the decks with a positive winrate, of those that are actually meta-relevant in the sense that they are played by more than 2-3 memers.

Sir_Gallonhead
Sir_Gallonhead

Anyone for a concede?
36793

Fried_Sushi
Fried_Sushi

@Sir_Gallonhead
grazie balena-kun

StrangeWizard
StrangeWizard

https://shadowverse.com/news/?announce_id=500
If my Rotation is at AA0, Unlimited at A0 then winsteak will activate at Unlimited but not in Rotation, right?

CodeBuns
CodeBuns

@Soft_member
Then share that deck or at least say anything about it.
I'm genuinely interest what kind of bizarre homebrew prefers going 2nd in current state of the game.
Or are we just to assume you're making shit up?

WebTool
WebTool

@Flameblow
i doubt it aged well...
i have asked about it more than half a year ago on mobage general and nobody already played it there, maybe try to ask there and on /v/
the general for ordinary mabinogi died ages and ages ago

@RumChicken
no it just means you don't know much

kizzmybutt
kizzmybutt

@Harmless_Venom
Then you're just talking about most popular decks, popularity dosn't define the deck's strength, it' just means that certain decks are easy to use without much trouble. It doesn't make other decks worse just because some of them are less popular. We can't really tell winrates from 500-1000 random games on shadowlog. Remember how nips reach gm with amazing streaks by playing all sorts of blood decks and blood is considered worst archetype at the moment.
@CodeBuns
Daria rune.

Ignoramus
Ignoramus

@kizzmybutt
Daria is a bad meme deck, tho.

viagrandad
viagrandad

@Ignoramus
D0?

Methshot
Methshot

he's not a TGC/CCG johnny
missing out lads

Emberfire
Emberfire

@Evilember
Gay

StrangeWizard
StrangeWizard

@viagrandad
Grandmaster. And it's no big secret Daria is a garbage highroll meme where you often lose to your own deck because you drew 3x or 0x Daria. It's just not nearly as consistent as almost any deck on the ladder.

happy_sad
happy_sad

@Methshot
That's all it takes for you to call yourself a johnny?

Sir_Gallonhead
Sir_Gallonhead

wiping a board of brambles + 4 fairies with Confront Adversary
Goddamn it feels good. My 1/1 tokens are safe too since no more demon child may.

Evilember
Evilember

@Ignoramus
Alright, i am out of arguments. Shadowlog says that it's bad, must be true. Ramp dragon can brick quite often too with a lot of high cost cards.

Booteefool
Booteefool

I'm kinda new to the game, what are the good Bloodcraft win conditions out there? For Unlimited ofc

Inmate
Inmate

@happy_sad
one knows if he's a johnny, no need to prove it with screenshot compilations and the likes

Playboyize
Playboyize

@Evilember
he's the reddit mod faggot
lmao
Ramp Dragon is much more consistent than Daria, because it doesn't hinge on any single card nearly as much. Moreover, it doesn't lose to drawing multiples. Moreover, Dragon's highrolls are higher-impact.

Methnerd
Methnerd

Stop replying to the reddit mods attention whore

Nojokur
Nojokur

@Booteefool
Vampy hit face
Play Yurius and win early game
Then just General + Claw for a nice and balanced 9 damage on turn 6.

likme
likme

@Booteefool
Unga bunga hit face.
Right now, the only viable decks for Blood in Unlimited are Aggro and Vengeance.
Both win by just hitting face as their wincon.
Next month, after the first wave of nerfs, it's likely Control Blood will be viable again, and that one uses Spawn of the Abyss and Azazel for wincons.

5mileys
5mileys

@Evilember
Where do I buy this alternative skin?

SniperWish
SniperWish

@Playboyize
he's greentext shitposter
rofl
it doesn't hinge on any single card nearly as much
Pic
more consistent than Daria
Have you played both in ladder or are you just ASSUMING things?

Booteefool
Booteefool

the redditor is now replying to himself

Sir_Gallonhead
Sir_Gallonhead

@SniperWish
You have to go back.

Supergrass
Supergrass

@SniperWish
rofl
Dumb newfag.

VisualMaster
VisualMaster

Ignore him already.

New_Cliche
New_Cliche

@5mileys
You can donate to mod maker from the land of "go back", or you can just thank him and use it for free.
@Supergrass
greentext
Smart oldfag.

Spamalot
Spamalot

@Booteefool
Your post is also mine.

Emberfire
Emberfire

Does Bandersnatch activates the fanfare when it summons a follower from the deck?

Nude_Bikergirl
Nude_Bikergirl

MAGUROHEAD IS STREAM

I REPEAT MAGUROHEAD IS STREAM

lostmypassword
lostmypassword

Well, well, well. Look what we have here.
https://exhentai.org/g/1169287/a972c19bb5/

Gigastrength
Gigastrength

5 awful expansions and 1 year of stale meta makes SV a dull game

Ignoramus
Ignoramus

@Nude_Bikergirl
memefying both e-celebs and broken grammar
Kill yourself, please.

Lunatick
Lunatick

@Booteefool
I suggest you to build cheap aggro blood deck. You can even use it without carabosse. I use this for dailies. If you need good decks for runked you can search on bagoum.

Spazyfool
Spazyfool

@lostmypassword
Holy shit. Nice.

Evil_kitten
Evil_kitten

@lostmypassword
Based cudgel priest.

Carnalpleasure
Carnalpleasure

belenus, mammoth, atomy
Surely this could have been predicted when they made skull ring?

New_Cliche
New_Cliche

@Ignoramus
nukoota is spamming daria and hes rank 3 or someth
its good

Spazyfool
Spazyfool

@Carnalpleasure
pet class etc.

happy_sad
happy_sad

@Carnalpleasure
It was. That's why Atomy rotated out.

StrangeWizard
StrangeWizard

@Carnalpleasure
Nerf bone chimera.

CodeBuns
CodeBuns

@Emberfire
Take a guess.

Supergrass
Supergrass

@lostmypassword
Man nips really hate Alice, huh?
dat minigob

Deadlyinx
Deadlyinx

@Methshot
all these unique leaders
Was this from an event?

Skullbone
Skullbone

@lostmypassword
What the fuck is wrong Arisa's tits, though?

Evilember
Evilember

@CodeBuns
Idk that's why I'm asking you fucking cucumber

New_Cliche
New_Cliche

@Deadlyinx
We had a fate collab in occasion of the heaven's feel movie

Sharpcharm
Sharpcharm

@Skullbone
arisa is an old hag

likme
likme

@Evilember
Fanfare only activates when you play it from hand, period.

AwesomeTucker
AwesomeTucker

Give me mysteria deck quick!

farquit
farquit

Aria's Enhance effect is worse than normal effect

Am I missing something?

Techpill
Techpill

@Ignoramus
https://twitter.com/Coq_Slayer/status/950673664919269377
Not the user you were talking to and I can't get shit some with the deck myself, but at the very least it can be a decent deck.

Methshot
Methshot

@farquit
The wisp prevents you from milling a card and the fairies provide fuel for your elephant.

Firespawn
Firespawn

@AwesomeTucker
No such thing.

AwesomeTucker
AwesomeTucker

@Techpill
43 matches
That wasn't even worth a quote.

Methnerd
Methnerd

@Techpill
You're replying to the game who can only win with tier 1 decks, that's why anything else is meme tier for him. Also
Except Mid Shadow, there's no weak match-up now.
What did he mean by this?

askme
askme

@Methnerd
He meant to write lamp dragon.

Deadlyinx
Deadlyinx

Which? Both are pretty good.

Evil_kitten
Evil_kitten

@askme
I know but midshadow isn't weak match up, it's the easiest match up.

happy_sad
happy_sad

@Deadlyinx
left by far

haveahappyday
haveahappyday

@Deadlyinx
Right.

Spamalot
Spamalot

@Deadlyinx
I'd go with left.

SniperGod
SniperGod

Post cuties

New_Cliche
New_Cliche

@Deadlyinx
your curve looks like it'd like left more

Methnerd
Methnerd

@lostmypassword
all me btw

Raving_Cute
Raving_Cute

@SniperGod
Cutebutt Vampire ofc

Stupidasole
Stupidasole

@Methnerd
Were you the one that uploaded it? If so, you're a cool guy.

whereismyname
whereismyname

@Methnerd
Wait. Which circle was it from? I couldn't find any good shadowverse doujin. The only few circles who draws shadowverse use shitty Luna as their thumbnail so I might miss it because of that.

iluvmen
iluvmen

開け、死の門よ

Ignoramus
Ignoramus

@iluvmen
With the power of anime I recognize two kanji. I guess that's Atomy?

whereismyname
whereismyname

@Ignoramus
yes

Boy_vs_Girl
Boy_vs_Girl

back to back Dragon Canyons

takes2long
takes2long

Did someone rip the card art from Chronogenesis already?

JunkTop
JunkTop

What are the chances Carabosse is getting nerfed?

Soft_member
Soft_member

Concede please
29493

GoogleCat
GoogleCat

@takes2long
Weeks ago.

SniperGod
SniperGod

@JunkTop
100%?
It got "nerfed" last month

TechHater
TechHater

@JunkTop
Zero chance. They won't nerf the same card again and carabosse is far from broken, some card in vengeance arsenal might get nerfed, along with roach and ryuu

Fuzzy_Logic
Fuzzy_Logic

@JunkTop
She's already been nerfed

Methnerd
Methnerd

@GoogleCat
Do you have a link friendo? It's not in the "useful links" in the OP and I'm not good with reddit

eGremlin
eGremlin

@JunkTop
They should nerf Blood Wolf if they want to fix Blood in Unlimited.

Spazyfool
Spazyfool

@Techpill
tfw t4 double insight into Owl
wtf I love Daria highrolls now

Methshot
Methshot

@Soft_member
@Soft_member
@Soft_member
Please.

New_Cliche
New_Cliche

@eGremlin
you are retarded
aggro blood is like 51% winrate

Nojokur
Nojokur

@Soft_member
Thanks Roland

Inmate
Inmate

@eGremlin
Both wolves, actually. Wouldn't mind seeing Claw being 3pp as well. Half-cost Demonic Strike at the cost of two miserable HPs always seemed wrong to me.

likme
likme

@haveahappyday
Didn't this run Feena in the past? Is it really that important to tutor Fervor 100% of the time?

PackManBrainlure
PackManBrainlure

@Inmate
take 2 damage to deal 3 damage to enemy
literally almost symmetric, only ONE damage worth of hp advantage
and you have to pay 2 mana for this on top
shitters actually complain about this

SniperWish
SniperWish

@New_Cliche
muh winrate
Sup KMR.

w8t4u
w8t4u

@Inmate
sometimes i think some svg posters are mentally challenged

BinaryMan
BinaryMan

How does dragon currently fair with T3 Atomeme and T2 morde.

Illusionz
Illusionz

@PackManBrainlure
I know right, you can tell they never bothered to play a single game with Bloodcraft

TreeEater
TreeEater

@BinaryMan
They're doing just fine

TurtleCat
TurtleCat

@BinaryMan
Still a T1.

Ignoramus
Ignoramus

@BinaryMan
t2
T5 morde is the fastest.

Need_TLC
Need_TLC

@PackManBrainlure
Are you trying to imply that self-damage isn't a pro in agressive blood decks? Razory Claw is a card with pretty much no drawback for Aggro/Vengeance.

TalkBomber
TalkBomber

@Inmate
Amazing, even razory claw is broken for /svg/ shitters

VisualMaster
VisualMaster

@JunkTop
deplete their evo before carabose drops or just having a fucking board presence before and after a cara drop.

Bidwell
Bidwell

@w8t4u
Sometimes? I ALWAYS wonder the same every time i see someone defending Aggro Blood.

TreeEater
TreeEater

@Need_TLC
It's not a pro.
Aggro Blood has 0 cards that benefit from low HP, meaning self-damage is always strictly bad, never a good thing, and it feels when playing against aggressive decks or combo decks.
And when you're on 10 HP or less (as Vengeance often will be thanks to Belphegor), 2 self-burn is a big deal and can be punished by many decks.

Playboyize
Playboyize

@TalkBomber
even
Hello newfag. Having fun climbing C rank with your cheap Aggro deck?

Spazyfool
Spazyfool

@TreeEater
This post is ironic, right?

Techpill
Techpill

@BinaryMan
In rotation dragon is literally uncounterable
In unlimited they're pretty dead

Snarelure
Snarelure

@Spazyfool
You're retarded, right?

Snarelure
Snarelure

Don't talk about Blood, the class is fine and doesn't need any nerfs.

Raving_Cute
Raving_Cute

@Spazyfool
Nah you're just an idiot who has no idea how blood works

BlogWobbles
BlogWobbles

@Inmate
2pp angelic snipe is op

JunkTop
JunkTop

Tfw game after game you verse shadow players who've obviously net decked but have no clue how the deck actually works.

5mileys
5mileys

@Playboyize
Are you projecting?

Firespawn
Firespawn

@5mileys
Don't reply to ESL Dragoncuck, friend.

lostmypassword
lostmypassword

@Methshot
Did you get someone

ZeroReborn
ZeroReborn

Been rerolling for 2 days now trying to get Exella
Only taking breaks to recharge my phone and sleep
I've seen 2 Alberts and 3 Cerberus so far

Haha, any time now!

Ignoramus
Ignoramus

Except Mid Shadow, there's no weak match-up now.

Lunatick
Lunatick

when playing portal, shadowbabs trade into my puppets
when playing haven shadowbabs try to ping my temple defenders and use removal on my ancient protectors
when i play sword shadowbabs buff my sanic all on their own
i don't know why you guys hate shadowbabs, i love them

Evil_kitten
Evil_kitten

@Ignoramus
muh highroll

lol, but shadow and dragon are fine for me tbqh, they are the easiest jormungand matchups. I'd rather play against those two than play against dirt rune or control forest, that shit is frustrating as fuck

SomethingNew
SomethingNew

@Lunatick
Z rank?

Skullbone
Skullbone

@Lunatick
You can't stay in D forever.

CouchChiller
CouchChiller

You guys keep screaming about shadow and dragon nerfs but this thing doesn't even come close to them. I don't even think nerfing Illusionist is enough, you have to do something with Oz and Master Mage Levi as well.

Stupidasole
Stupidasole

@SomethingNew
@Skullbone
AA1

5mileys
5mileys

@King_Martha
sugoi mahou will never be played again

Garbage Can Lid
Garbage Can Lid

@5mileys
once mysteria gets more support, tempo runecraft sans daria will be viable, and the unlimited variant will run her

Methnerd
Methnerd

@CouchChiller
Oops, forgot my image.

eGremlin
eGremlin

play 3 Kamura and 3 Zeuses
still can't beat Balanced Dragon healing, storm and removal.

Lord_Tryzalot
Lord_Tryzalot

@Stupidasole
AA is still trench.
For a quick and obvious proof, compare those two:
https://shadowlog.com/trend/2018/1/3/
https://shadowlog.com/trend/2018/1/4/
AA is so fucking different from Masters that they at times have completely different metas.

TreeEater
TreeEater

@BlogWobbles
It only becomes an Angelic Snipe in the mirror. Stupid analogy.

RumChicken
RumChicken

@Garbage Can Lid
inb4 mysteria is another one of those archetypes that lasts for one expansion and disappears like megalorca

Boy_vs_Girl
Boy_vs_Girl

@Stupidasole
Tbh I did once trade into puppets as a bait.
It didn't work like I wanted so I must have look like a fool.

TreeEater
TreeEater

@TreeEater
It's an Angelic Snipe against anything that wants to end the game before turn 9.
That is, anything other than control decks, and control is favoured against aggro anyway.
Are you Z rank?

PackManBrainlure
PackManBrainlure

@RumChicken
Megalorca didn't last any period of time because it never existed to begin with.

askme
askme

@RumChicken
They may not seriously support it, but it's guaranteed a trickle of cards due to all the ROB Mysteria cards.

CouchChiller
CouchChiller

@TreeEater
Are you? Aggro Blood can easily win against every damn deck in the game, even Cblood.

New_Cliche
New_Cliche

@Lord_Tryzalot
Its not like master is any better. You only need to grind to get to master.

New_Cliche
New_Cliche

@PackManBrainlure
Megalorca is great and deserve more cards, period.

Inmate
Inmate

@CouchChiller
CBlood is favoured against Aggro Blood, shitter-kun, as are many decks.
Moreover, Aggro Blood doesn't even have nearly as high a winrate as, say, Roach.
So why are you bitching about Blood so much every day?

PackManBrainlure
PackManBrainlure

I haven't played in a few months, but is swordcraft the new meta class? It's pretty powerful.

Evilember
Evilember

@New_Cliche
Did you even open those links

BlogWobbles
BlogWobbles

@Evil_kitten
There are not many control forest players usually. Dirt rune just doesn't forgive bricks, any weak t2 play and i am fucked.

Illusionz
Illusionz

aggro blood doesn't even have that high winrate as kys blood actually

whereismyname
whereismyname

@New_Cliche
That's the point.
Reaching Master is trivial, so only bad players and new players are anywhere below Master, in other words, everything below Master is 100% full of shitters who don't know how to play the game.

Supergrass
Supergrass

@PackManBrainlure
Sword is second worst class in rotation, not much better in unlimited.

CodeBuns
CodeBuns

@Ignoramus
I can see the matchup being a pain if they have a perfect 123Prince curve or pull all their Lurches just right.

PurpleCharger
PurpleCharger

@Inmate
CBlood is favoured against Aggro Blood
Where the fuck did i imply otherwise. Desperate for argument, already?
Moreover, Aggro Blood doesn't even have nearly as high a winrate as, say, Roach.
Winrate comparison never is a good argument. I think that Roach also is a cancer that need to be truly nerfed along Aggro Blood anyway.

Raving_Cute
Raving_Cute

@Supergrass
What? It's doing significantly better than Blood and Portal. Mid-Sword is very close to 50% WR, which is shit compared to the big 3, but far from terrible.

Soft_member
Soft_member

How would you guys nerf aggro blood tho, blood wolf is a start but how do you nerf it without making it useles?

SniperGod
SniperGod

Is Lyrial really good in dirt rune or is it just some tournament tech pick?
t. scrub who wants to tap into dirt

5mileys
5mileys

i think we should stop giving him (you)s

Fried_Sushi
Fried_Sushi

@SniperGod
she's the best 2pp you can use to fix your otherwise atrocious curve

Boy_vs_Girl
Boy_vs_Girl

@SniperGod
just levi oz autofill lmao

Emberfire
Emberfire

@CodeBuns
enchanted sword
Unlimited is a different beast, too much board clears and heals, flame destroyers become less value. Not sure if it works there. Shadow can do annoying death's breath at 6.

Stupidasole
Stupidasole

@Soft_member
Gain Rush and +0/1 instead of Storm if there is a enemy follower in play.

PackManBrainlure
PackManBrainlure

@SniperGod
Loss of Levi left the deck without great options, and you the 2-drop slot is the most important in Shadowverse. She's still the best aggressive neutral 2-drop after all these sets.

Soft_member
Soft_member

@SniperGod
Lyrial helps even the odds in any deck while going 2nd.

lostmypassword
lostmypassword

@Fried_Sushi
Yeah because Dwarf, Mordecai and Laboratory are so bad on curve, amirite

Gigastrength
Gigastrength

@Raving_Cute
Ah, right, i forgot about portal. Sword might work for climbing it's just far from "new meta class".

Gigastrength
Gigastrength

@Gigastrength
Everyone likes to forget about Portal. Until you reroll into a Portal daily.

FastChef
FastChef

@lostmypassword
who said that you mongoloid
if you think 9 2pp is enough for a good tempo curve stop playing pp based card games

MPmaster
MPmaster

Fenrir is actually pretty fucking good in this meta.

PurpleCharger
PurpleCharger

@5mileys
guys, please, don't respond
don't give (you)s, please, i beg you
don't mention, don't reply. GUYS
This level of autism is actually cute.

Nojokur
Nojokur

@FastChef
Dirt is not unga enough to be worth sacrificing more than a quarter of your deck into 2PPs.

Crazy_Nice
Crazy_Nice

@MPmaster
fenrir always was a good removal but it is no good in kys and especially aggro

Deadlyinx
Deadlyinx

@Nojokur
rotation lists in fact top off at 11 2pp usually

Evilember
Evilember

@MPmaster
No she isn't. Also, there is two metas now so be more specific next time.

Dreamworx
Dreamworx

@Stupidasole
Unplayable garbage.

Evil_kitten
Evil_kitten

forest against puppet portal
NEVER EVER draw my fucking brambles

WHERE ARE MY PREMIUM DRAWS KMR? I FUCKING PAID YOU PIECE OF SHIT

DeathDog
DeathDog

@Lord_Tryzalot
2k submissions vs 18k submissions
if people consider the master reports unreliable i would imagine the reports for AA are even more so

TechHater
TechHater

@Dreamworx
Dunno, i would also nerf almost every meta Storm card so that Storm finally comes with a real cost in this damn game. Considering this, i think it still would be playable.

Fried_Sushi
Fried_Sushi

Wish we had good game design like hearthstone
They keep getting good expansions while we just keep getting travesty after travesty masked with the same stale meta

It's not fair

Flameblow
Flameblow

@TechHater
Except that would never happen in reality, so it's an irrelevant fantasy land that is pointless to discuss.

SniperWish
SniperWish

@SniperGod
The current 2pp drops of Dirt are sufficient

Playboyize
Playboyize

@lostmypassword
Is this the doujin where neutral blood rapes everyone literally?

Snarelure
Snarelure

Fuck this overrated piece of shit garbage deck.
Literally go first and perfect curve to catacomb or lose.
Didn't draw catacomb in any of those games btw.

Evilember
Evilember

@Fried_Sushi
What's the matter? Not enough stories to tell your friends?

Crazy_Nice
Crazy_Nice

@Snarelure
it's another netdeckers find out midshadow isn't braindead episode
yawn

AwesomeTucker
AwesomeTucker

@PackManBrainlure
The best aggresive neutral 2drop is Evelisia, hits face on fanfare. I am using 3 in my list. Goblin is trash though, lists with goblins are retarded.

hairygrape
hairygrape

don't curve into Illusionist
lose
hmmmMM

TalkBomber
TalkBomber

@Fried_Sushi
Good post

@Evilember
Bad post

Ignoramus
Ignoramus

@Snarelure
Shitters like you are why Midshadow doesn't have a 60% winrate.

Burnblaze
Burnblaze

@Crazy_Nice
@Ignoramus
Nice try, but I've played shadow since DE.
Midshadow is fucking braindead draw well or lose.

WebTool
WebTool

@Burnblaze
Nice try, but I've misplayed shadow since DE.
ftfy

Booteefool
Booteefool

@WebTool
There is literally nothing you can do if you don't draw catacomb and your board gets cleared.
Only absolute shitters will let you keep any sort of board. Maybe you should go play against actual good players.

Flameblow
Flameblow

@Booteefool
There is literally nothing you can do if you don't draw catacomb and your board gets cleared.
t. D0 shitter

WebTool
WebTool

@Booteefool
show some replays instead of keeping climbing on mirrors

RavySnake
RavySnake

Need a concede at 79218.

farquit
farquit

@WebTool
Just imagine me not drawing catacomb and getting stormed/removed to death every single turn because your opponent isn't retarded.

Gigastrength
Gigastrength

@farquit
Just imagine not playing this game and vomiting bullshit?

Spamalot
Spamalot

@farquit
I don't even run Catacomb in some lists, such as the one I'm climbing Unlimited with. Get good, shitter.

StonedTime
StonedTime

@RavySnake
Thanks Jannu

Spazyfool
Spazyfool

@lostmypassword
tfw it's not on e-hentai or nhentai

Ignoramus
Ignoramus

@farquit
treating catacomb as the ultimate wincon must be the the spiciest flavor of idiocy I've read these last days

Playboyize
Playboyize

@Gigastrength
How am I not playing this game when I posted a screenshot of me playing the game and this fucking garbage overhyped piece of shit deck.

GoogleCat
GoogleCat

I do enjoy the 'bad netdecker can't win with a tier 1 deck' rants.

Booteefool
Booteefool

@Ignoramus
Didn't say it was your wincon, but you can't do fucking shit without it because all your fucking shit gets removed and Hectar does fucking nothing and you aren't in range for lethal with Aisha..

StrangeWizard
StrangeWizard

@Spazyfool
Get fucked, plebbit.

Emberfire
Emberfire

@Booteefool
F rank?

Emberburn
Emberburn

@Booteefool
can't win without it
having it is your condition to winning
literally the definition of wincon
guess why you haven't heard of a wincon being an early/middlegame card? because no one bar special needs people thinks stuff like catacomb is one

SniperWish
SniperWish

@GoogleCat
I do enjoy "shitters pretend shadow is busted because they can't remove a board" false flagging too.

Evil_kitten
Evil_kitten

So when is Oz getting emergency nerfed? Literally unplayable

CouchChiller
CouchChiller

having hard time piloting mid shadow
this can't be real

SniperGod
SniperGod

@CouchChiller
Shitters like him is exactly why Midshadow barely has a 51% winrate, user.

MPmaster
MPmaster

@CouchChiller
Because it's not a piloting problem, it the deck being shit.

whereismyname
whereismyname

@Evil_kitten
No use complaining here. Gotta complain on their Twitter or Reddit.

SniperWish
SniperWish

@SniperGod
Please stop pretending like that deck requires any thought.

JunkTop
JunkTop

@StrangeWizard
you think it's more fun than reading douji?

lostmypassword
lostmypassword

I'm getting sick of drawing all my Darias when I already have a Daria in my hand.

StrangeWizard
StrangeWizard

@SniperWish
You're living proof it does.

Inmate
Inmate

@lostmypassword
Just ring them, bro.

Ignoramus
Ignoramus

@MPmaster
Let me guess, and you think Ramp is good?

hairygrape
hairygrape

@StrangeWizard
Literally haven't seen a single other shadow for the last 3 hours.
I guess people realized just how shit it actually is.

JunkTop
JunkTop

This is some dedicated falseflagging, but I'm not sure who you're trying to fool.

Nojokur
Nojokur

@lostmypassword
Buy crystals for premium draw.

likme
likme

@hairygrape
@MPmaster
Midshadow gets stomped by Dirt Rune, the most popular and strongest deck in Rotation. Dragon goes even against Shadow, so Shadow doesn't have much of a point. It's a Dirt Rune meta, everyone is either playing it or trying to counter it with heals (forest/dragon/haven). Midshadow can annoy those counters but it's ultimately the worst deck out of the big 3 right now.

What you're reading on /svg/ are runetumors trying to trick you and everyone else into playing midshadow because it's free wins for them.

cum2soon
cum2soon

@Ignoramus
Ramp is the same draw well or lose bullshit except it has many more comeback cards, once you've actually manage to ramp.

Nojokur
Nojokur

evo points are pointless now and most matches still have them in play by turn 12
almost always used for that +2 damage to face
How do we fix this?

Bidwell
Bidwell

Please concede.
47667

TechHater
TechHater

@Bidwell
Thanks fairy bro.

PackManBrainlure
PackManBrainlure

@Nojokur
Give everyone their own version of magic owl
2pp 2/2 - 4/4

Forest owl: Evolve: Put two fairy wisps in your hand
Owl soldier: Evolve: Put two quickbladers into play
Blood owl: Evolve: Put two bloodfed flowerbeds in your hand
Draconic owl: Evolve: Put two blazing breaths in your hand
Zombie owl: Evolve: Gain Last Words: Summon two skeletons
Snowy owl: Evolve: Put a snow white into your hand

girlDog
girlDog

@PackManBrainlure
Blood owl: Evolve: Put two bloodfed flowerbeds in your hand
Literally unplayable garbage, fampai.

Spazyfool
Spazyfool

@PackManBrainlure
subtle hagfag post

Spamalot
Spamalot

@PackManBrainlure
no Portal Owl
fuck you

SomethingNew
SomethingNew

@PackManBrainlure
Dragon already got theirs.

Poker_Star
Poker_Star

@SomethingNew
god I want to fuck aiela

Bidwell
Bidwell

@girlDog
It would be Jorm's staple tho

iluvmen
iluvmen

@Bidwell
It really wouldn't.
Jorm is one of the most evo-hungry decks in the entire game, it can't afford to spend an evo point on something like that.
No deck ever would run it and it's easily the weakest suggestion of all that you made.

New_Cliche
New_Cliche

dailies take 3 hours because every single opponent perfect curves while I draw my deck in reverse every single game.
I wish I knew how to stop instead of losing points like a retard.

Stark_Naked
Stark_Naked

@Poker_Star
t. dragon san

farquit
farquit

FUCK YOU I WANT ALBERT

hairygrape
hairygrape

@New_Cliche
not just doing solo dailies and getting them over with in 5 minutes

BlogWobbles
BlogWobbles

@farquit
what a garbage leader rmao

Need_TLC
Need_TLC

Want to use globes
Orchis is likely coming out next expansion
what to do?

BinaryMan
BinaryMan

@farquit
A
FUCKING
BRONZE

massdebater
massdebater

@BlogWobbles
better than cerb tho

Garbage Can Lid
Garbage Can Lid

@farquit
kys luckshitter

Gigastrength
Gigastrength

tfw winning vs Dragon on t6 because they couldn't Salamander their problems away

SniperWish
SniperWish

matched against shadow
7 shadows on turn 4
I-it's so hard though!

idontknow
idontknow

@SniperWish
Thinking that hoarding shadows is useful when Minthe exists

Supergrass
Supergrass

@idontknow
Minty is useless without her pet.

Nojokur
Nojokur

@whereismyname
Are you gently telling him to go back?

Lord_Tryzalot
Lord_Tryzalot

matched against forest as dragon
they don't redraw
sylvan justice turn 2 and 3
I'm playing aggro dragon
I have to know how much you have to pay to literally get a sneak peek at my deck, because that seems like a suicide play if I had been ramp

Soft_member
Soft_member

@whereismyname
complaining about runeddit on reddit

whereismyname
whereismyname

WTF BROS???

Sharpcharm
Sharpcharm

@farquit
Urias is better, even tho women doesn't understand him.

Supergrass
Supergrass

Can I get a concede?
16539

Gigastrength
Gigastrength

@Supergrass
Thanks dork

WebTool
WebTool

@Supergrass
I wanna pet Orthrus and take her for a walk.

idontknow
idontknow

@Supergrass
I want to mate with this dog

CouchChiller
CouchChiller

play 12 games
start 2nd nine (9) times

Nude_Bikergirl
Nude_Bikergirl

@whereismyname
Is Vampire Sandwich the greatest literary work of our time?

Carnalpleasure
Carnalpleasure

https://twitter.com/otohymen/status/952246998786289664
MUH DICK

Crazy_Nice
Crazy_Nice

@New_Cliche
Just play Unranked and concede long/bad matchups and bricks. You might not oneshot the stuff but it goes way faster.

Ignoramus
Ignoramus

did cg save this game?

5mileys
5mileys

@Ignoramus
It's better now but there's still work to be done. Rotation will be fresh only after TotG rotates out and we still don't have automated tournaments or bo3 ladder.

eGremlin
eGremlin

2 games against dragon after waking up and i already feel like ceasing my play

CouchChiller
CouchChiller

Yo, I want to try unlimited forest everyone calls cancer, where can i find list?

haveahappyday
haveahappyday

@eGremlin
Don't worry he probably bricked.

Need_TLC
Need_TLC

@CouchChiller
google.com

SniperWish
SniperWish

@eGremlin
What did you expect playing Daria? Nukes such as Revelation, necroassassin combo, Themis, Baha etc fucks Daria, you don't just drop your whole hand whenever you can, there's a timing you must keep an eye on to win as Daria.

Spamalot
Spamalot

@SniperWish
i expect the game to not be determined by whoever can play saha or bahamut first and to not have a class in it that can cheat

Raving_Cute
Raving_Cute

How the fuck are people getting winstreaks with Doroshi. I either brick or drop her around 6 turn. Fucking bullshit.

RavySnake
RavySnake

@Spamalot
I expect to autowin with Dorothy highrolls turn 4 half the time and win on turn 5, 6, 7 the other half, because every single board clear that clear it rotated out except a cheated out ramped Baha
There's literally not a single fair Rune deck or mechanic. You don't get to complain about anything.

Soft_member
Soft_member

@RavySnake
fuck off craftwar fag

farquit
farquit

@Spamalot
Just accept, this is the point when facing bad matchups or having fun with daria. You can win, but not always. Besides, look at his Leader's defense point, fucking 8 against a Daria deck with no storm and almost no burn.

MPmaster
MPmaster

@Spamalot
i expect the game to not be determined by whoever can play saha or bahamut first
You should be at least blessed with rng if you play daria. Otherwise don't bother.

eGremlin
eGremlin

@CouchChiller
It's cancer in rotation too desu.

Dreamworx
Dreamworx

@Spamalot
You're literally playing a deck that's based around trying to cheat a flood of big followers onto the board as early as possible.

Firespawn
Firespawn

I feel for him.

Illusionz
Illusionz

StarWars leaders
Snoke shadowcraft
Bb8 portal
Rey swordcraft

Now you go...!

Spazyfool
Spazyfool

@eGremlin
Forest decks are tier 3 in rotation user.

Garbage Can Lid
Garbage Can Lid

@Firespawn
Fuck off

askme
askme

@Firespawn
Mommy mommy I topdecked lethal against a meme deck!

RavySnake
RavySnake

@Illusionz
Was episode 7 your first star wars?

TurtleCat
TurtleCat

@Ignoramus
ToG and WD are still in rotation, so no.

BinaryMan
BinaryMan

@TurtleCat
Those two shit expansions were full of the worst mistakes.

LuckyDusty
LuckyDusty

@askme
Am i not meme enough?

BunnyJinx
BunnyJinx

outskilled :) guess what he played next
god i wish i was smart enough to manage shadows it's soooo hard

Ignoramus
Ignoramus

@LuckyDusty
In all the wrong ways. And it keeps getting worse every day. Seek help.

Bidwell
Bidwell

yesss second time this has happened

Boy_vs_Girl
Boy_vs_Girl

@Ignoramus
Actually i was talking about the deck.

Crazy_Nice
Crazy_Nice

@BunnyJinx
Honestly at high level play you have to think turns ahead with regards to shadow count and it`s vsy hard

Gigastrength
Gigastrength

@Boy_vs_Girl
A newborn redditor who netdecked Daria? What's meme about this?

Firespawn
Firespawn

@Crazy_Nice
LOL

LuckyDusty
LuckyDusty

@Crazy_Nice
If it were hard nobody would be playing it. You know what's hard? Blood, Forest since brainlets can't pilot aggro and buff, and PDK decks.

PurpleCharger
PurpleCharger

literal redditcord posting and retards responding to them
/svg/ died the moment chest events ended.

VisualMaster
VisualMaster

Reminder that if Deus ex Machina was a Runecraft card.
She would also cost 1 less for each Artifact in your deck.

lostmypassword
lostmypassword

@LuckyDusty
hard
PDK
literally ramp until 7+, vomit hand
Yeah, okay.

JunkTop
JunkTop

@VisualMaster
If it was a shadowcraft card It would have necromancy(insignificant number): win the game

Nojokur
Nojokur

don't curve into Eachtar
lose
the absolute state of midshadow

Booteefool
Booteefool

@JunkTop
No, if she was a Shadowcraft card:
Fanfare: For the rest of your game, your Artifacts have Fanfare: Gain +2/+0 and Rush

LuckyDusty
LuckyDusty

@Gigastrength
What's meme about this?
Ask him
@Ignoramus
A newborn redditor who netdecked Daria?
Source: your ass.

Carnalpleasure
Carnalpleasure

How long till we have an exodia win condition

Sharpcharm
Sharpcharm

all this butthurt over shadow
when it's sitting on the same winrate as the other 4 crafts that are viable
Why are you still playing sword, blood or portal if you hate losing so much?

Raving_Cute
Raving_Cute

@Carnalpleasure
non-storm/burn wincons
HAHAHAHHA

Playboyize
Playboyize

@PurpleCharger
It's okay, I went past /hsg/ for fun the other day and they're even more dead.
Which is funny because they're game is WAY bigger and more "popular", but it's almost like their entire meta has been cancer stuffed with poison spread on a big helping of diarrhea since MSG.
At least when I fight cancer here, it isn't massive RNG or my opponent drawing singleton copies of bullshit.

lostmypassword
lostmypassword

KYOKO AGERU

Deadlyinx
Deadlyinx

@Playboyize
cancer is hyperconsistent in SV so it's a-ok
the city of shadowcucks

Booteefool
Booteefool

11109
need concedd, emote a ton if you want one

Raving_Cute
Raving_Cute

@lostmypassword
That's what you think. How are you going to reach lethal, manage your evolves, be sure to draw cards and not get PDK removed by levi, jeanne, black scripture, zombie party, salamander, golem and so on?

SomethingNew
SomethingNew

How about we give Rune a 1pp spell that curves itself into a 2pp spell haha

Ignoramus
Ignoramus

@LuckyDusty
@Burnblaze
Source: Your own posts in this general

Nojokur
Nojokur

@SomethingNew
how about a card that draws 5 and turns every spell to 1pp lool what do you think of this elegant skill tester

Playboyize
Playboyize

@Deadlyinx
Better consistent than RNG or whoever draws their DK first wins.

@SomethingNew
Don't forget Spellboosting twice because it's 2 spells. We wouldn't want to make the mistake of printing even more cards that spellboost twice in 1 card like Magic Owl...

Lunatick
Lunatick

@SomethingNew
i dig it
how about give elf a bunch of 0 mana followers that bounce then disappear so new players can play roach without being overwhelmed with hand management and math

CouchChiller
CouchChiller

Is there a netdeck going around that plays canyon of the dragons?

Ignoramus
Ignoramus

@Lunatick
Don't forget giving Forest another 1pp 2 Fairies card.

Fuzzy_Logic
Fuzzy_Logic

@Playboyize
complaining about draw RNG out of all the shit in HS
Im having fun!!! Cauldron+Illusionist every game at least it ain't HS xD

Emberburn
Emberburn

@SomethingNew
This is proof shitters will literally complain about anything.

haveahappyday
haveahappyday

@SomethingNew
Spend 3pp for 2pp clay golem or 2pp hit for 3dmg spell

Skullbone
Skullbone

@Fuzzy_Logic
It is another layer of RNG that decides the game with no skill or effort or decisions from the players actually being involved.
And it is what 90% of the meta is:
Did I draw X non-interactive bullshit before my opponent drew Y non-interactive bullshit?

Incidentally, it took these trash Dirt Rune players 4 tries today to take 1 game off me even with all their little turn 1 Cauldrons, and Illusionists, and Karls, and 3 Oz + 3 Levi in game.
Playing Neutral Portal with a splash of Puppets.
Because you can put independently good cards in your deck and overcome, sometimes.
Whereas you don't overcome in Hearthstone, one of you draws some bullshit, and it's too overwhelming to overturn.

Deadlyinx
Deadlyinx

@haveahappyday
One card letting you spellboost twice for only 3pp isn't bad.

King_Martha
King_Martha

Anyone watching pandacup?
Finals between the only 2 good streamers.

askme
askme

@Playboyize
We wouldn't want to make the mistake of printing even more cards that spellboost twice in 1 card like Magic Owl.
Nerf spectral wizard!

Dreamworx
Dreamworx

@Deadlyinx
Pretty much like insight + clay golem. Except rune doesn't have 2pp for 3 dmg spell,

RavySnake
RavySnake

@Dreamworx
Now those Runecoons have that AND insight/clay golem.

Stark_Naked
Stark_Naked

@Ignoramus
Hold up, the new 'fairly circle' is a really bad card. Does nothing on the turn you play it, doesn't give you 2PP turn 2 play, and the last word ping is barely worth mentioning. Even post rotation Forest has better turn 1 options that garbage.

kizzmybutt
kizzmybutt

Man, what am I going to do when my shadowverse waifu Sahaqiel rotates out?

StrangeWizard
StrangeWizard

@RavySnake
Now those Runecoons have that
Like everyone else? That's only fair. At last magic oriented craft got low pp magic spell.
@RavySnake
AND insight/clay golem.
I hope you wouln't complain about fucking clay golem.

Crazy_Nice
Crazy_Nice

@Stark_Naked
better turn 1 options
literally only Water Fairy
Reminder that Fairy Circle ALSO did nothing whatsoever on turn 1.
ping barely worth mentioning
Usually but Forest does have Brambles on top of an army of 1/1s, so the ping is FAR more relevant than Belenus or Red Hot Boots, for contrast.

Bidwell
Bidwell

@kizzmybutt
You should visit her in unlimited like a good husbando.

Booteefool
Booteefool

@Bidwell
Why, so I can die on turn 5 or 6 and hope Sahaqiel comes and comforts me while I cry in the corner because I couldn't play her out?
Yeaaaah I'm gonna pass on Turbo Cancer: The Format.

GoogleCat
GoogleCat

@Booteefool
Just play Ramp Dragon :^)

idontknow
idontknow

Say what

DeathDog
DeathDog

@Booteefool
Yeaaaah I'm gonna pass on Turbo Cancer: The Format
Still better than Rotation "Dragon Hugbox" mode

WebTool
WebTool

@idontknow
Memed the fuck on

Fried_Sushi
Fried_Sushi

@idontknow
This screenshot is what the game could have been, and it saddens me.

BunnyJinx
BunnyJinx

@kizzmybutt
@GoogleCat
Ramp Dragon
Nah...
Turn 6 Odile
Turn 7 Saha + Isra
Turn 8 Odile + Usher back the Saha they killed
Turn 9 Saha + Isra + Usher back the Saha again
Turn 10 Saha + Isra, plus 3 mana for fun
I've done more or less this. And it was glorious.
I don't know why I never thought of Saha + Usher before (and avoiding playing out the Israfil or Bahamut if possible), having previously memed with Usher reviving Odins
Few things felt as good as banishing an entire playset of Mordes and still having an Odin or two to spare

Harmless_Venom
Harmless_Venom

@Techpill
I love this deck.

BlogWobbles
BlogWobbles

@BunnyJinx
Having enough shadows for an Usher engine
I know shadow has good shadowgen, but that's stretching it, pal

Flameblow
Flameblow

@BlogWobbles
It's pretty easy though considering he doesn't use Eachtar, Aisha or even squisher.
I run a deck with Usher and having enough shadow is never a problem.

BlogWobbles
BlogWobbles

@idontknow
This is the true Dragoncraft, these are the people who have been playing Dragon throughout the game's lifespan, instead of bandwagoning during ToG, SFL, and rotation.

FastChef
FastChef

If they added a log for destroyed followers why not go all they way for amulets, used spells, banished stuff and milled cards?

cum2soon
cum2soon

@BlogWobbles
zell
the true dragoncraft
Please.

cum2soon
cum2soon

Is Portal actually bad or are people too dumb to play it right? I'm leaning towards the latter but I think Safira is not a very good wincon either.

New_Cliche
New_Cliche

@cum2soon
Are you implying post-nerf is good for anything but roost memes?

Ignoramus
Ignoramus

@cum2soon
just Noah bro

Emberburn
Emberburn

@cum2soon
A combination of both probably.

TurtleCat
TurtleCat

@cum2soon
Partly, but the class is very draw dependent, and their wincons suck right now. I've had plenty of matches were turn 10 Safira was at 4 power or less.

likme
likme

@cum2soon
Both
It requires a lot more consideration than what most people are used to, but it's mid-tier at best even when played optimally. It's simply too inconsistent.

eGremlin
eGremlin

@cum2soon
Portal will be ridiculous if the top tier decks get nerfed in any meaningful way, along with Haven, assuming they manage to escape nerfs as well.

CouchChiller
CouchChiller

@cum2soon
Portal has the best core of any class, their wincons just suck shit. They have as much draw as they'll ever want, and you can never tempo them out of the game, because their board flood doubles as removal. Give them a way to deal with big guys that are cheated out early other than the 5pp banish, and actual wincons, and the class is forever tier 1.

Methnerd
Methnerd

@cum2soon
It's a terrifying sleeper.
If a future expansion manages to make it any more consistent, it will likely break the game for an entire month.

Garbage Can Lid
Garbage Can Lid

@New_Cliche
If you mean being a unplayable craft that nobody expected to win with it. Besides, you can still meme with Dragon, nothing is holding you back. The thing is that, just like in the past, you'll play to meme not to win.

happy_sad
happy_sad

It's going to feel so weird when Bahamut is out of rotation. You'll be able to play multiple large followers without worrying about getting dragon dicked.

JunkTop
JunkTop

@Garbage Can Lid
I meant Zell. Normal unlimited Dragon is the same as it was in SFL.

ZeroReborn
ZeroReborn

@happy_sad
If Baha doesn't get reprinted the board is going to start to matter a whole lot more.

GoogleCat
GoogleCat

@ZeroReborn
Board already matters, that why Baha get played...

Need_TLC
Need_TLC

@happy_sad
I just want them to stop pretending that Bahamut isn't a Dragon legendary.

Raving_Cute
Raving_Cute

@GoogleCat
And it's going to matter a whole lot more without Baha and Themis to delete it.

Deadlyinx
Deadlyinx

@Need_TLC
It isn't, the meta is slow lots of classes are running it in rotation at this point. Dread Sea on the other hand may as well have just been a Dragon leggo.

Raving_Cute
Raving_Cute

@Need_TLC
I've been Baha'd by every single fucking class this expansion, and it has only been two weeks since its release.

SomethingNew
SomethingNew

@Raving_Cute
It's going to be broken and impossible to answer just as it almost already is. Choose better your words.

takes2long
takes2long

@happy_sad
RoB has more than Bahamut and Sahaquiel, it has a ton of random destruction as well. Tribunal, Lurch/Necro, Professor of Taboos are the last efficient random destruction cards. If they don't print more of it in the next set, the game should change a lot because this mechanic will be pretty much removed from the game. There are some random destruction cards left in Rotation (Cetus/Anubis) but they are too inefficient to be considered.

Stupidasole
Stupidasole

@SomethingNew
Choose better your words.
You first m8.

Garbage Can Lid
Garbage Can Lid

@Stupidasole
/hsg/. Go.

Emberburn
Emberburn

Haven can still win TT!

lostmypassword
lostmypassword

nice try with jobberwock,but it backfired

Methnerd
Methnerd

https://www.openrec.tv/live/uDu75O22zWG
Manaria Daria deck murdering everything on path

TechHater
TechHater

@GoogleCat
Only big or sticky boards matter.
It's almost impossible at any point in the game past turn 3 for you to play two followers at once and have even one of them survive a whole turn.

Flameblow
Flameblow

its a win all early game and then lose to isra/zeus/baha episode
Mr. Cygames
Please nerf these cards

happy_sad
happy_sad

@TechHater
What's Shadow, Rune, Forest, Shadow and Portal? And of course, you want to auto-win? People need to remove or else it's game over for them.

Dreamworx
Dreamworx

@Flameblow
shhh stop complaining or else you'll get called an aggrotard

Emberburn
Emberburn

@happy_sad
*Forest, Sword

VisualMaster
VisualMaster

@Methnerd
Doubled Levi'd as soon as I turn it on
Well so much that.

Flameblow
Flameblow

@Methnerd
open stream
he loses to dirt
close stream

JunkTop
JunkTop

@BlogWobbles
Not at all.
Midshadow regularly runs Thane (eats the 4 Shadows it creates, net 0), Loli Smugsquasher (eats 4), and STILL spends them willy nilly on Eachtar, and STILL has enough for Aisha.
@Flameblow
Exactly. It's not like you necessarily expect all 3 Ushers to go off, sometimes it's just a 2/2 for 2, like Belenus and does nothing special, like Belenus.

@cum2soon
It's not AS Bullshit as Rune Shadow or Dragon, so it's "bad".
Artifacts and Puppets are actually both competent decks, they're just largely not as unfair as what everyone else is pulling right now.

Wards are overtaxed and, as such, underplayed. The biggest problem with Portal is deck construction.
People play a lot of stupid greedy shit like Biofabrication and not enough card draw to consistently go off. So they win harder when they do go off, but go off considerably less often because they draw DEM and Accels less often.

And misplaying Artifact portal can backfire really hard.

Fried_Sushi
Fried_Sushi

@Dreamworx
I mean if you play any deck and opponent drops zeus when you have no way of removing him you lose...
Unless you're aegis haven

StonedTime
StonedTime

@VisualMaster
@Flameblow
You people talk as if losing to dirt is a big problem.

AwesomeTucker
AwesomeTucker

@Methnerd
Calm your tits, that's /svg/ tier deck.

TreeEater
TreeEater

@Methnerd
lose to portal
J-just

TurtleCat
TurtleCat

@AwesomeTucker
@Methnerd
Oz Mysteria Daria
Shit looks so greedy

eGremlin
eGremlin

@StonedTime
CONCEDES TO PORTAL NEXT MATCH
Yeah I'm done watching, it's shit.

viagrandad
viagrandad

@Methnerd
channeru sleeve
How do i get that?

Illusionz
Illusionz

He's 3300 or something btw.

King_Martha
King_Martha

games are getting long enough that spawn is becoming a problem again
Its almost like cards that you can't interact with are a problem
WHAT
A
SURPRISE

Spamalot
Spamalot

@King_Martha
unironically complaining about a 0.0000000001% winrate class

Playboyize
Playboyize

@happy_sad
What's Shadow, Rune, Forest, Sword and Portal?
Mid Shadow in general
Illusionist
Fairies
Arthur
Artifacts
Classes that can make big and/or sticky boards.
And of course, you want to auto-win? People need to remove or else it's game over for them.
That's a completely separate problem and it has to do with this being a 20 life game full of burst. Boards wouldn't be as dangerous if there weren't as many out-of-hand damage sources, or life totals were higher.

All I want is to be able to play a follower and trade with it next turn, but apparently that's asking too much.

Firespawn
Firespawn

@King_Martha
Will Haven become meta enough that people complain about Aegis?
Or will TOG rotate out first?

TechHater
TechHater

@King_Martha
we will get pepe reprint next, thank you

whereismyname
whereismyname

@Playboyize
All I want is to be able to play a follower and trade with it next turn, but apparently that's asking too much.
Nop, all you want to do is gain tempo and go face. Free wins.

whereismyname
whereismyname

@Firespawn
Still no way to get Aegis earlier then 9.
Bander can pull Spawn

Raving_Cute
Raving_Cute

@AwesomeTucker
all animated but 3 cards

Harmless_Venom
Harmless_Venom

@Playboyize
at's a completely separate problem and it has to do with this being a 20 life game full of burst. Boards wouldn't be as dangerous if there weren't as many out-of-hand damage sources, or life totals were higher.
This.
Life total is basically too low to allow very much easy immediate damage to even exist.

Relative to Hearthstone, Ablert is like a Leeroy with no drawback and 5-7 Health that enhances into King Krush. And it's not like he's even a good card, it's just that the life total makes him "good".

SomethingNew
SomethingNew

@whereismyname
Whatever helps you sleep at night.

5mileys
5mileys

@SomethingNew
This is how the game works. What you want is of little importance.

Poker_Star
Poker_Star

@King_Martha
Not a problem for Dirt.

Spamalot
Spamalot

Chain lightning should not hit face
Its just yet another one of runes ridiculous stretch cards for winning the game via topdecks.

PackManBrainlure
PackManBrainlure

@Spamalot
When topdecked.
Spend 10, hit face twice for 3 (more with Mysteria)
Still remains in hand to do it again
IT'S LITERALLY UNLIMITED ALBERTS!

RumChicken
RumChicken

Things that are going away in three months:
Lilly
Lurching
Salamander Breath
Necroass
Gourmet Emperor
Craig
Clarke
Piercing Rune
Jeno
Albert
Tribunal
Ogler
Fervor
Blade Mage
Taboos
Sahaquiel
White Wolf
Fangblade Slayer
Daria
Dragoon
Bahamut

PurpleCharger
PurpleCharger

@Spamalot
it should

askme
askme

@Harmless_Venom
Problem is they tried to mirror MtG in some ways, but used HS' main mechanics. 20 health is fine when every creature has ward, and players can play spells on the opponent's turn. Not so much when there's little to do but smash concede when that big storm animation starts playing.

King_Martha
King_Martha

@RumChicken
The bullshit cleansing begins.

BunnyJinx
BunnyJinx

dragonbabs

JunkTop
JunkTop

@RumChicken
Fangblade and Albert are swords best late game cards by far, the class is going to need some real bullshit to be playable outside of going all in on Arthur->Walfrid.

StrangeWizard
StrangeWizard

@askme
Yeah. It's a mistake a lot of players made in HS when it came to evaluating cards as well for the first several sets.
The games are VERY different when there's no interaction on the opponent's turn and attackers dictate combat.

Evil_kitten
Evil_kitten

@King_Martha
Yeah I'm not gonna miss most of them.
Can't wait until they take out the trash from WD and TotG though.
Burn Rune is probably going to be super cancer next expansion, they're only really losing Piercing Rune.

Stupidasole
Stupidasole

@BunnyJinx
Getting some free wins from dragon today too, discord?

DeathDog
DeathDog

@Evil_kitten
Yeah, Mysteria is a major problem going forward.
She's already obnoxious with this small of a spell pool to work with.

Fuzzy_Logic
Fuzzy_Logic

Havent played since like ToG is storm haven still viable? currently at B1

Nojokur
Nojokur

play class that can pull wincon
win
play class that cannot pull wincon
lose
I mean...the point this game is at is just sad now.

Evilember
Evilember

@Fuzzy_Logic
It's still pretty good, at worst T2 in unlimited.

TalkBomber
TalkBomber

@DeathDog
She'll be a deck defining card at some point for a control deck, potentially next month if dirt gets hit hard enough and DQ gets nerfed so Dragon loses its 16 damage storm from hand.

RavySnake
RavySnake

he hasn't saved up 5k rupies for the next expansion already

it's like you don't even want moonbun bros..

happy_sad
happy_sad

@Fuzzy_Logic
If you're unlimited yes, if you're rotation, no
People will tell you to use temple in rotation.
It cannot win going 2nd at all. It NEEDS 1st to win. Because it cannot contest board whatsoever.

PackManBrainlure
PackManBrainlure

@RavySnake
implying game won't be dead by then
LMAO

Evil_kitten
Evil_kitten

@Fuzzy_Logic
Last month it was tier 1 with 55% winrate. Should still be fine.

lostmypassword
lostmypassword

@RavySnake
I saved up 10k rupies and spend 200 trying for Daria and ended up with 3x Aldos. I've given up all hope at getting a leader I want.

WebTool
WebTool

@RavySnake
All I need is Illya.

TechHater
TechHater

I am into the taboo.

LuckyDusty
LuckyDusty

@RumChicken
Other notable cards you missed:
Dorf
Lyrial
AotW
Hungering Horde
Powerless Man

BinaryMan
BinaryMan

@Stupidasole
discord? who the hell is discord?

Methshot
Methshot

@RumChicken
shadow loses 2 cards they barely use
hmmm wonder what will dominate still hmmmmm

Sir_Gallonhead
Sir_Gallonhead

@Evilember
@happy_sad
@Evil_kitten
Thanks, I guess I wil still play it in unlimited sometimes. But gonna start to save up for a new haven deck in rotation.

BlogWobbles
BlogWobbles

@Methshot
Lurching corpse
barely used
(You)

BunnyJinx
BunnyJinx

@RavySnake
I already hedged that bet by buying Illya. There will likely be a new collab by then as well, since they seem to do one every 2 months or so.

TurtleCat
TurtleCat

Wait a sec. WHY Albert's enhance is still 9 and not 10pp??

Emberfire
Emberfire

@BunnyJinx
*2 sets

SomethingNew
SomethingNew

Wait a sec. WHY Albert's enhance won't let him evolve for free??

Bidwell
Bidwell

Saha
put a neutral follower from your hand into play
banish it at end of turn
BOOM, balanced.
No more 'lel I'll just use Isra 4 turns in a row"

Carnalpleasure
Carnalpleasure

@Methshot
Every Midshadow deck is running Lurch/Necro

Supergrass
Supergrass

@JunkTop
stupid greedy shit like Biofabrication
The trick is to play biofab and such only if DEM is in your hand/has already been activated. I can't imagine playing without it.

Evil_kitten
Evil_kitten

@Bidwell
lel
BOOM
4 turns in a row
Go back.

iluvmen
iluvmen

En garde, dragon-san.

Spazyfool
Spazyfool

@RavySnake
I already has 1.5k. How the fuck you got 5k already?

askme
askme

@BunnyJinx
Maybe we'll finally get a non-gatcha sword leader that isn't shit.

farquit
farquit

blue is the water

VisualMaster
VisualMaster

@iluvmen
My bad, forgot pic.

New_Cliche
New_Cliche

Is silent laboratory worth running in unlimited? Not sure if I should remove red hot ritual for it or if I should run both. I feel like it could possibly replace dwarf alchemist.

Fried_Sushi
Fried_Sushi

@Spazyfool
Probably scripting any remaining leader levels he had.

haveahappyday
haveahappyday

@Methshot
I Don't Actually Play The Game: The Post

SomethingNew
SomethingNew

@TurtleCat
Because balanced ikuzo man hasn't been nerfed once.

Dreamworx
Dreamworx

>>>/reddit/

Soft_member
Soft_member

@VisualMaster
Avatarfag is back
Thread is over, everyone go back to the actually alive generals

Sharpcharm
Sharpcharm

Reanimate Zeus shadow seems fun. Is it any good? I guess it relies on high rolling too much, but turn 8 Zeus + turn 9 Zeus + turn 10 double Zeus is quite good.

whereismyname
whereismyname

Reminder that avatarfagging is against the rules and you shouldn't reply to their posts.

iluvmen
iluvmen

@VisualMaster
Wow, you should be proud of this. You just beat the worst class in the game. Congratulations.

Gigastrength
Gigastrength

@VisualMaster
I'm glad my spoon could help that damaged brain of yours. Finally learned how to play.

ZeroReborn
ZeroReborn

he actually replies to himself
That's just sad

Garbage Can Lid
Garbage Can Lid

@New_Cliche
You need the immediate impact going 2nd against blood. Replacing Dorf is a bad idea, since you don't want to brick your board with too many sigils.

BunnyJinx
BunnyJinx

@Sharpcharm
it's fucking garbage it hardloses to dirtcancer which is 90% of the ladder

GoogleCat
GoogleCat

throw a random moon meme man in BnB
keep ruining dragon with it
Nice 1/13 goblin my friend.

BlogWobbles
BlogWobbles

How do rune players always manage to topdeck chain lightning when they have 0 cards and you're at 6 health?

BunnyJinx
BunnyJinx

@BlogWobbles
with their 5pp full stats draw 5 reduce cost to 1 of course

haveahappyday
haveahappyday

@Sharpcharm
It's fun, that's for certain. You can cuck some dragondudebros really hard with all the kamuras. This jap is running a reanimate deck without zeus but it's pretty much the same deck. About the deck being good, I'm not sure.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PbjIj81gup0&t=14m00s

Burnblaze
Burnblaze

@Gigastrength
You're hallucinating, user.
@iluvmen
Thanks, i hope they'll buff dragons.
@Soft_member
@whereismyname
Yes, go back to /hsg/ and stay there.

Spazyfool
Spazyfool

@haveahappyday
To cuck a dragon you don't eve need Kamura.

Burnblaze
Burnblaze

Daria is becoming more and more common in rotation now. We had the ToG cancer now it's RoB cancer revisited. We can only hope cygames do a full nerf on those two packs soon enough.

BunnyJinx
BunnyJinx

enemy rune has 2pp morde turn 2 every game
top deck 3 2pp mords in a row on turn 8-9-10
I haate this card so much. Fuck.

idontknow
idontknow

@Burnblaze
Hallucinating my ass, Discord.

Lord_Tryzalot
Lord_Tryzalot

@GoogleCat
I also run moonman and the only time I used it was on Aegis.
The fucked conceded afterwards.
It sucks when it bricks but when it works it makes my panties wet.

girlDog
girlDog

revived ceres twice
NOOOOO MY BURN PLEASE NERF CERES HOW IS THIS POSSIBLEEEEEE BUFFFF OZZZZZ

viagrandad
viagrandad

@girlDog
shits on Sibyl but defend the powercreep Ceres
it's even shadowcraft
Jesus Christ, kill yourself.

Stark_Naked
Stark_Naked

@idontknow
Calm your ass.

idontknow
idontknow

@viagrandad
I've never complained about sibyl though

Flameblow
Flameblow

@viagrandad
I didn't know ceres ramped and healed for 3

SniperGod
SniperGod

@viagrandad
If it's Shadow it's ok. Didn't you know?

GoogleCat
GoogleCat

@girlDog
That's nice but reanimate is still fucking shit.
have 2(two) Zeuses on board
topdecks rats
play another Zeus
topdecks golem
I guess I was supposed to have 10 shadows or something, but I had to play another Aisha early on just to survive with this garbage

JunkTop
JunkTop

@GoogleCat
Yeah it sucks against dirt

takes2long
takes2long

@Flameblow
You also didn't know that Sibyl's ramp and healing are a locked effect.

5mileys
5mileys

@RumChicken
Bahamut
Sahaquiel
CAN'T
FUCKING
WAIT

AwesomeTucker
AwesomeTucker

@SniperGod
More like it's not ok because it's shadow. Everyone hates shadow, so I can just say whatever bullshit I want and everyone will support me :^)

girlDog
girlDog

@5mileys
replying to it 3 fucking times
Are you really this autist, shitposter?

Emberfire
Emberfire

@girlDog
It's ok Dragonbab, I'm sure they'll print you another broken neutral to abuse.

Sir_Gallonhead
Sir_Gallonhead

@AwesomeTucker
Everyone hates shadow
Doesn't look so in this thread, avatarfag shit.

massdebater
massdebater

@RumChicken
Sadly, only Albert, Daria and Piercing Rune substantially improve the game with their removal.

WebTool
WebTool

(You)

Illusionz
Illusionz

@Emberfire
responding to esl dragoncuck

Lunatick
Lunatick

@GoogleCat
MOOOOOOOOM!!!
My non-interactive luck-based cancer beat his non-interactive cancer!

MPmaster
MPmaster

My class is honest.
Your class is cancer.
Just make this the OP and disable posting, it's the same as what we get anyway.

Ignoramus
Ignoramus

Why is Acceleratium a 1pp card? Why is Summit Temple a 1pp card? Why is Airbound Barrage a 1pp card?

Stupidasole
Stupidasole

@girlDog
At least learn 2 English, you fucking retarded faggot.

Dreamworx
Dreamworx

@MPmaster
Your class is cancer.
What the fuck did you say about my class you redditcord vampy cancer aggro retard shitter?

Garbage Can Lid
Garbage Can Lid

@Illusionz
Stop replying to yourself, and get out of this thread. Pathetic fucker.

Stark_Naked
Stark_Naked

@Lunatick
the absolute state of shitposters

Crazy_Nice
Crazy_Nice

ESL-dragoncuck defending dirt
HMMMM

girlDog
girlDog

@MPmaster
My class is honest.
Sword?

ZeroReborn
ZeroReborn

@Crazy_Nice
My favorite part is that he has to reply to literally every post where someone suggests that Dragon is anything but the worst class in the game.
If he spent more time in english class and less time on Veeky Forums maybe his life would be a lot better.

Nojokur
Nojokur

@Dreamworx
oh no they figured I am from reddit/discord
I know, I'll spam it to make it look like it was always shitposts so they'll drop it
I'm so smart vampy please marry me :D

Spazyfool
Spazyfool

When are we getting the emergency dragon nerfs? It's obviously ridiculous how oppressive it's getting in high masters

Insane that people actually defend it

Gigastrength
Gigastrength

@Spazyfool
nah according to /svg/ it's fine, you can beat it with any ol' deck if you're not bad apparently, /svg/ is never wrong

Carnalpleasure
Carnalpleasure

@Dreamworx
@Nojokur
Stop falseflagging. Seriously, why don't people report this underage?

Snarelure
Snarelure

@Lunatick
MOOOOOOOOM!!!
Come to mommy.

FastChef
FastChef

@RumChicken
Taboo dude rotating out
It's been a good run bros

Deadlyinx
Deadlyinx

@FastChef
kys dirtumor

RumChicken
RumChicken

@Snarelure
I do want me some chocolate milk.

RavySnake
RavySnake

Vampyshtiter and avatarfag shitting up the thread. Now they're erp'g. Both are from Discord, it isn't hard to understand.

Raving_Cute
Raving_Cute

What ethnicity is Isabelle?

Crazy_Nice
Crazy_Nice

@Raving_Cute
some sort of smelly jungle bitch

Firespawn
Firespawn

@Raving_Cute
Sexy Brown Girl

Ignoramus
Ignoramus

Is it too late for a new to join and still somehow keep up?

Techpill
Techpill

@RavySnake
Let's invade their hideout. What's your nickname in discord?

MPmaster
MPmaster

@Ignoramus
not really no, the game is ridiculously generous with packs, they'll throw dozens at you the moment you start playing

happy_sad
happy_sad

@Techpill
End yourself, animal.

Ignoramus
Ignoramus

@Ignoramus
No, but you'll might find playing in unlimited a bit easier for a while. The game is pretty generous with packs.

Evilember
Evilember

@Ignoramus
This isnt hearthstone. Theres no such thing as too late.

Ignoramus
Ignoramus

https://twitter.com/DnoKaoruo1996/status/952152612400283648
This deck is actually legit. Now themis, no revelation, no nothing that can remove your board other than baha. Rotation is a literal rune zone now.

Garbage Can Lid
Garbage Can Lid

@Ignoramus
Of course not. Feel free to try this wonderful kusoge.

BunnyJinx
BunnyJinx

@Ignoramus
Of course it is. That's basically my deck from weeks ago.

eGremlin
eGremlin

Would someone like to come play a game? I'm just gonna use some random-ass deck I've thrown together. 55957

StrangeWizard
StrangeWizard

@Ignoramus
twitter luckshitter winstreak

Playboyize
Playboyize

@Ignoramus
Good winstreak but i still don't like high cost spells in daria deck. Mutagenic is a big gamble if you're not dirt rune.

New_Cliche
New_Cliche

Please concede

TurtleCat
TurtleCat

@MPmaster
@Ignoramus
@Evilember
Is the population any good? Are the match wait times long?

PurpleCharger
PurpleCharger

@StrangeWizard
Daria is literal free wins against anything not dragon with bullshit ramp or dirt with bullshit hand going first.

DeathDog
DeathDog

@PurpleCharger
So basically there are no free wins?

Boy_vs_Girl
Boy_vs_Girl

@TurtleCat
There's only 1 server, so no. NA and JP players all play together so even when you play in the dead of night you will always find a person.

kizzmybutt
kizzmybutt

@TurtleCat
The population is great, but the western one not so much. You won't wait long for matches but the vast majority of your opponents will be Japanese. Not that this is much of an issue, not like there's a chat system.

ZeroReborn
ZeroReborn

@PurpleCharger
Daria is literal free wins
To show how /hsg/ shitposters only parrot what they see in the thread and shadowlog.

TurtleCat
TurtleCat

play duckmill vs haven
always wait out their aegis drops
hit face with 10/2's
they usually dc

Fun times. Too bad it loses most rune/shadow matches
Its alright against dragon.

Poker_Star
Poker_Star

@ZeroReborn
That is the vania avatarfag replying to himself, buddy.

haveahappyday
haveahappyday

@eGremlin
I'm sorry user, I didn't hear the noise to say that someone had joined and only noticed you just before you left.

Carnalpleasure
Carnalpleasure

@PurpleCharger
Just fought the deck, couldn't even win against Portal.

GoogleCat
GoogleCat

@haveahappyday
It's okay, i need to go anyway. I hope you'll find someone else.

Techpill
Techpill

@Carnalpleasure
Dirt rune, dragon and midshadow can lose when it bricks too. Also you're going first. Congrats.

happy_sad
happy_sad

@Carnalpleasure
5 cards in literal freewins's hand
somehow Nexus is allowed to have a board
Ugh, that's weird.

Flameblow
Flameblow

god i can't fucking wait for RoB to be rotated out

Fuzzy_Logic
Fuzzy_Logic

@Techpill
Dirt and Mid are on another level, bricking most of the time means nothing to them unless they're facing something like Forest or Dread.

CodeBuns
CodeBuns

@Techpill
Also you're going first. Congrats.
That helps daria player, dumbass.

Sharpcharm
Sharpcharm

@Flameblow
says while momo in his hand
You shouldn't complay about everything just because you lost.

BinaryMan
BinaryMan

@CodeBuns
No it doesn't. Levi is gone, idiot.

Boy_vs_Girl
Boy_vs_Girl

@Techpill
Guess it's a brick if it's only one Ogler instead of 3.

Spazyfool
Spazyfool

@Sharpcharm
literally the only reason i run momo is because bahamut exists, who is also from RoB

Stark_Naked
Stark_Naked

@Sharpcharm
Are you comparing a situational 3 PP follower to a 4 PP "random" double removal? Tribunal is broken as fuck.

Boy_vs_Girl
Boy_vs_Girl

@BinaryMan
Yes it does, brainlet, piercing and owlcat are still there and they need evolve point as soon as possible. Daria's not aggro, it doesn't need to hit face early, it needs to build tempo swing, that's easier if you go second.

Poker_Star
Poker_Star

@Boy_vs_Girl
I just noticed that the one I played against wasn't the deck that was linked though since that one doesn't run Mammoth, my bad.

PackManBrainlure
PackManBrainlure

@Spazyfool
Without Tribunal (let's call it momo) Haven wouldn't be able to win that game.

Lord_Tryzalot
Lord_Tryzalot

@Spazyfool
momo is WD

Fuzzy_Logic
Fuzzy_Logic

@PackManBrainlure
momo is a card that you can reasonably do something about, you can play a ward and they won't be able hit your shit unless they remove the ward first. tribunal can not only bypass that if you're lucky, it also does it again 3 turns later

@Lord_Tryzalot
what relevance does that have

Techpill
Techpill

@Fuzzy_Logic
Talk about mental gymnastic.

eGremlin
eGremlin

@Fuzzy_Logic
But that's also the drawback of random removal.
Sometimes it just doesn't kill jack shit (whether it be tokens or hitting an effect like Aegis/BnB repeatedly).

ZeroReborn
ZeroReborn

@Flameblow
seriously complaining about Tribunal
The thing makes you lose games as much as it makes you win them. You can't even use them vs forest.

lostmypassword
lostmypassword

get one Daria and two Chimera in starting hand
mulligan the two Chimera
I just know I'm gonna regret this
get two more Darias
mfw

massdebater
massdebater

@Techpill
momo is also a dead card until they play something with 5+ attack, and she dies after being used. while tribunal can be used at any time against anything, and triggers a second time later

Inmate
Inmate

unlimited is coin flipping
rotation is rock-paper-scissors
Nice "game" ahahaha

Sharpcharm
Sharpcharm

@eGremlin
Nice game. Those amulets were a pain.
This was my deck.

LuckyDusty
LuckyDusty

@ZeroReborn
nigger people have been complaining about tribunal since it was released, it's 4pp perfect removal TWICE with the only downside being randomness if they have more than one thing on the board

hairygrape
hairygrape

@eGremlin
It sucks that Koga will never be good, not even in ambush memes because shes a 7pp do nothing.

Sir_Gallonhead
Sir_Gallonhead

@LuckyDusty
with the only downside being randomness
You say it as if it was no matter.

CouchChiller
CouchChiller

@Sir_Gallonhead
it doesn't matter against most matchups, what you're doing is like arguing that bahamut isn't broken because it's bad against aggro decks

Lunatick
Lunatick

@haveahappyday
twitch, svlaofficial channel
latinamerican scene

w8t4u
w8t4u

@Sharpcharm
Yeah, I lost count of how many times you played Khawy, that shit was bananas. My deck was just built from scraps, I think if I'd built it properly ie, had more than one Barbarossa and King Arthur, things would have went much better for me.

kizzmybutt
kizzmybutt

@hairygrape
ambush memes
Did anyone other than me even try to play that?
No Pepe doesn't count.

whereismyname
whereismyname

@LuckyDusty
Not even Dragon players complain about Tribunal despite it fucking them more hard than anyone else.

BunnyJinx
BunnyJinx

@whereismyname
because dragon players know they don't have the right to complain about anything

Lunatick
Lunatick

now i am definitely not getting moon bunny

PackManBrainlure
PackManBrainlure

@CouchChiller
Bahamut is not broken, newfag.

likme
likme

@PackManBrainlure
how to out yourself as a shitposter 101

TurtleCat
TurtleCat

have sword daily mission
go unlimited with a random sword deck - did not even check what it was
having a good time
now I will drop Arthur
this happens
concede
Remember to preview decks you didn't play in some times.

ZeroReborn
ZeroReborn

kill your fucking self waaaaaaaaaaaah

askme
askme

@likme
How new are you? Tell me

CodeBuns
CodeBuns

@PackManBrainlure
It 100% is in the current climate
A themis is worth 6pp on its own, a themis that also destroys amulets and leaves a 13/13 game-ending body is absolutely broken in any environment that can't punish its expensive cost

CouchChiller
CouchChiller

@CodeBuns
this post
It 100% is in the current climate
Anyway, because you either don't play SV or are in D rank.

Emberfire
Emberfire

@CouchChiller
Nice argument

VisualMaster
VisualMaster

@CouchChiller
uh oh they outed me as a shitposter better shitpost

Raving_Cute
Raving_Cute

@lostmypassword
Just ring bro

StrangeWizard
StrangeWizard

46914
pls concede
46914
pls concede
46914
pls concede

King_Martha
King_Martha

@Emberfire
This again?

@VisualMaster
/hsg/, I know it's you just by seeing your reaction pic.

Lord_Tryzalot
Lord_Tryzalot

@King_Martha
calling them D rank didn't work better call them /hsg/

Soft_member
Soft_member

@King_Martha
Please enlighten me on how "This again?" addresses my criticism towards Bahamut's effectiveness in the current meta and how I supposedly don't play shadowverse past D-rank

Soft_member
Soft_member

@Lord_Tryzalot
He'll call you reddit next.

farquit
farquit

@CodeBuns
can't be punished in slower meta

tribunal/annihilation
lurching corpse/necroass/kiwi
momo/cuhullin/fangblade
scyther/lightning blast
emeralda
lily
otherworld rift
any rune transform effect
bahamut, fall from grace

all viable cards to play
all with pp to spare

cum2soon
cum2soon

@Soft_member
Oh my lord, you're posting fucking Dread and Ouroboros, it have nothing to do with Baha. Everyone knows Dragon is relying solely on Dread to keep being relevant, nobody needs you to remind them.

Emberburn
Emberburn

@farquit
I said that its slowness can't be punished, not that its body can't be removed

Reading comprehension, dragonbaby

Firespawn
Firespawn

@farquit
answering something isn't the same as punishing it, you already lost your entire board, killing bahamut doesn't magically make that better

TurtleCat
TurtleCat

would adding the effect "you cannot play other followers while this follower is in play" to bahamut fix him?

StonedTime
StonedTime

New thread
/vg/thread/201773254#p201773254
New thread
/vg/thread/201773254#p201773254
New thread
/vg/thread/201773254#p201773254

lostmypassword
lostmypassword

@cum2soon
I see you're getting desperate to grasp at straws and deflect. I'll take it you're admitting defeat and conceding that dragon children are this collectively braindead. Thank you for the victory.

King_Martha
King_Martha

@GoogleCat
BnB ruining dragon
in your wet dreams

Soft_member
Soft_member

@Ignoramus
game was great right before CG came out
post-CG meta is shit, format split fractured the playerbase, increased queue times, and increased rank/score disparity of matches
did cg save this game?
No.

Bidwell
Bidwell

@RumChicken
implying people will tolerate rotation for another 3 months

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