/gerg/ - Giant Extreme Robots General

Gigastrength
Gigastrength

Ha, ha, time for robits, edition

New /gerg/ game, from the makers of Shadowrun Returns
http://battletechgame.com/

Armored Core:
http://pastebin.com/Ek3kMtZW (embed)
http://pastebin.com/WSq32Amg (embed)
http://steamcommunity.com/groups/armoredcorevg

Mechwarrior Living Legends:
https://clanjadewolf.net/mwll/
http://www.mechlivinglegends.net/

Living Legends Server Stats (Use this to check if anyone is playing):
http://stats.spikx.net/mwll.html

Heavy Gear Assault:
http://store.steampowered.com/app/416020

M.A.V. (Now with more Chromehound legal rights!)
http://bombdogstudios.com/blog/

MechWarrior Online:
http://www.mwomercs.com/

Have No Fear In Your New Fafnir:
https://mwomercs.com/fafnir

How to start MWO:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=imffSrJ4O7s (embed)

New Player's Guide to MWO (aka the Manual):
https://docs.google.com/presentation/d/1bmIEjECA6IbWRm92vmylZNv2QYVc5gXO7CT9jMITOrM/edit

MWO Mechlab:
http://mwo.smurfy-net.de/mechlab

MWO Heat Simulator:
http://keikun17.github.io/mwo_heat_simulator/

Some of the MWO Models and Cockpits:
https://gamemodels3d.com/games/mechwarrior/

Kanajashi's Video Tutorials:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RGPYOrhEFtg (embed)

Group Mumble Info:
kong.stepoff.com
port:7777

All urls found in this thread:
http://battletechgame.com/
http://pastebin.com/Ek3kMtZW
http://pastebin.com/WSq32Amg
http://steamcommunity.com/groups/armoredcorevg
https://clanjadewolf.net/mwll/
http://www.mechlivinglegends.net/
http://stats.spikx.net/mwll.html
http://store.steampowered.com/app/416020
http://bombdogstudios.com/blog/
http://www.mwomercs.com/
https://mwomercs.com/fafnir
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=imffSrJ4O7s
https://docs.google.com/presentation/d/1bmIEjECA6IbWRm92vmylZNv2QYVc5gXO7CT9jMITOrM/edit
http://mwo.smurfy-net.de/mechlab
http://keikun17.github.io/mwo_heat_simulator/
https://gamemodels3d.com/games/mechwarrior/
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RGPYOrhEFtg
http://mwo.smurfy-net.de/mechlab#i=213&l=2c2d9f09ef6372f49a7b17401513d7c20bfaef8f
http://mwo.smurfy-net.de/mechlab#i=17&l=3f9b29c4c7aeaa271284f5db28299658bb157848
http://mwo.smurfy-net.de/mechlab#i=270&l=09796479adcafd24645dcd4ca5937f8aa37576e7
http://mwo.smurfy-net.de/mechlab#i=212&l=0f780f7b0a451847adb8bc39e6e7233817503b87
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TU0MmjraKbo
http://mwo.smurfy-net.de/#mechs_quirks_assault_innersphere
http://mwo.smurfy-net.de/mechlab#i=230&l=fd0c303b340e70abb51e8231e95ffd4d3aae0863
http://mwo.smurfy-net.de/mechlab#i=493&l=fc643956f1d8eabb53963c736ab409e26c88c7a9
http://mwo.smurfy-net.de/mechlab#i=493&l=63605e0df09f4f80a5f2a3c0d63146c641055a6d
http://mwo.smurfy-net.de/mechlab#i=383&l=d469a98eb6b45f3279f535393892b33459cfff36
http://mwo.smurfy-net.de/mechlab#i=156&l=b387549cc8d1e3a5736ee3fa1f64fd2230d1da87
http://mwo.smurfy-net.de/mechlab#i=156&l=bbe7d71ecffda51b3f8377e7c6ccd5bff4d2121f
http://mwo.smurfy-net.de/mechlab#i=164&l=5e0dcfc3b77c37c8f2386c792a24e1e22cac39d5
http://mwo.smurfy-net.de/mechlab#i=164&l=a84215a03fc20780ef635860ecd93a1a02735c77
http://mwo.smurfy-net.de/mechlab#i=164&l=13e0890db3695c699f97d554f3a7cf834ecc18bf
http://mwo.smurfy-net.de/mechlab#i=164&l=266988a0366b401c7e17057894f49edd270df12c
https://kitlaan.gitlab.io/mwoskill/
https://youtu.be/XIsGedujcEg
https://kitlaan.gitlab.io/mwoskill/?p=jsonbin1.5a5c6f9cacbc7b5460be2ee5#s=Weapons
http://mwo.smurfy-net.de/mechlab#i=640&l=23b4aea8a40d05eb913b196cd4f701de16ee9d28
http://mwo.smurfy-net.de/mechlab#i=592&l=70c500e28a9810c061a12ed279e69979318c389d
http://mwo.smurfy-net.de/mechlab#i=33&l=932a9a3c82875102f426c651e5f6098929c50fb7
http://mwo.smurfy-net.de/mechlab#i=33&l=9f46075409c4e819b2ee45aa44317cb3e560570f
http://mwo.smurfy-net.de/equipment#weapon_heatscale
http://mwo.smurfy-net.de/equipment#weapon_heatscale
http://mwo.smurfy-net.de/mechlab#i=326&l=c9bbcd49ce23e4301e2122bead82c1037008eea1
http://mwo.smurfy-net.de/mechlab#i=326&l=330675be7794579b63efbf6d0ddee934e01ad997
https://kitlaan.gitlab.io/mwoskill/
http://mwo.smurfy-net.de/mechlab#i=17&l=9bb9dd0c4fb74efd665e2eb933b2631426322bc2
http://mwo.smurfy-net.de/mechlab#i=548&l=29379e0713c2c32448b2827ef646d6e4435a54fa
http://mwo.smurfy-net.de/mechlab#i=548&l=fcd075ebbf2f41e3e84bcb24408f18eb1852b7eb
https://mwomercs.com/events/75
http://mwo.smurfy-net.de/mechlab#i=241&l=0b4dadb3500c77cd27c8d8bd1c13cd8bdab8ea30
http://mwo.smurfy-net.de/mechlab#i=241&l=c747d2457a84eaf460c1546821b55f27bcaacda8
http://mwo.smurfy-net.de/mechlab#i=16&l=f2b2e90b3e061bb3e33a326a61734b1ddfa4e3ee
http://mwo.smurfy-net.de/mechlab#i=56&l=4998695e07c49f9c520327259bdadddcaf315d6c
http://www.sarna.net/wiki/Heat_Sink
https://mwomercs.com/forums/topic/257719-mc-and-c-bill-release-date-update-and-price-corrections/
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OaTO8_KNcuo
http://mwo.smurfy-net.de/mechlab#modified
http://mwo.smurfy-net.de/mechlab#i=238&l=df7018940dfb46d04430988514dadfa0002d8feb
http://mwo.smurfy-net.de/mechlab#i=238&l=df7018940dfb46d04430988514dadfa0002d8feb
http://mwo.smurfy-net.de/mechlab#i=238&l=0f3dcce2feea274e69049697a5da5c2b7d7cbf98
https://kitlaan.gitlab.io/mwoskill/?p=jsonbin1.5a60e3035fd3f954af5cf232#s=Weapons
http://mwo.smurfy-net.de/mechlab#i=238&l=35f20b8aa9cbc4cef1f9f9f5ff4f48eff4626014
hairygrape
hairygrape

thread actually died in the middle of the night and this one will probably be a stillbirth
Just let it die.

New_Cliche
New_Cliche

Saturday morning Urbie time!

whereismyname
whereismyname

@New_Cliche
It looks like shit, feel ashamed.

Bidwell
Bidwell

@whereismyname
Say that to our faces and not online...

Stark_Naked
Stark_Naked

plastering shitty decals on your mono-color abortions
Can you maybe not have shit aesthetics in my thread? Thanks.

PurpleCharger
PurpleCharger

@Stark_Naked

the joke
your head.

jesus fuck are you stupid?

its a can of XXXX gold beer(urbanmech), a can of VB beer(urbanmech) and a can of Fosters Beer(urbanmech)

PLEASE, be MORE retarded next time.

RumChicken
RumChicken

@Stark_Naked
Toohey's New*

kizzmybutt
kizzmybutt

@PurpleCharger
It's fucking garbage and you should feel ashamed for drinking pisswater. Now begone you filthy fucking mutt.

Stupidasole
Stupidasole

mk 2 for cbills
Finally, the double lb20+srms meme for pleb mechs. If only the game wasn't such a shit show and I still cared.

DeathDog
DeathDog

11th for kong sucks

CodeBuns
CodeBuns

@kizzmybutt
who cares about the crap beer. the joke works, you're just fucking retarded. and now you're mad because you're too stupid to get the joke.

Playboyize
Playboyize

@CodeBuns
WHAT DO YOU MEAN YOU'RE NOT A SHITTY RETARDED OLD FUCK WHO DRINKS AWFUL PISSWATER TO DROWN HIS SORROW BECAUSE HE'S A FAT PIECE OF GARBAGE WHO HIS WIFE BROWBEATS MERCILESSLY AND DOESNT EVEN FUCK ANYMORE? YOU BETTER ENJOY MY SHITTY GARISH LOOKING TRASHCANS BECAUSE ITS ONE OF THE SMALL SATISFACTIONS I HAVE IN MY MEANINGLESS LIFE BECAUSE I AM A DISGUSTING ABOMINATION MASQUERADING AS A HUMAN

Gigastrength
Gigastrength

@kizzmybutt
doesnot get the joke
posts some elitist nu-male shit about beer because bad

Do you refuse to drink free beer from a keg/bring shitty ((((kraft)))) beer with you too?

GoogleCat
GoogleCat

@Playboyize
jesus how can anyone be this mad over not getting the joke

you're from kong, arenot you?

King_Martha
King_Martha

@Playboyize
AH HA HA HA HA HA

retard getting this spergy and anally devestated at getting called out for being a fucking retard.

REEE more, dumbshit, it's not like it's going to change the fact that you're TOO Dumb to get simple fucking sight gags.

I mean, were you BORN stupid, or did you have to take special Lessons to get as fucking DUMB as you are?

FastChef
FastChef

@GoogleCat
LOL KONG ANYTHING I DONT LIKE KONG MUH LURMBRAWLER XD I SO GOOD AT GAME IN TIER FIVE
KILL YOURSELF UNIRONICALLY DO IT HERES YOUR FUCKING PUSH I KNOW YOU WERE ALREADY CONSIDERING IT SO JUST TAKE THE STEP OVER THE EDGE AND DO US ALL A FAVOR YOU OBESE OLD FUCKING RETARD

Boy_vs_Girl
Boy_vs_Girl

@GoogleCat
i think it is.

RumChicken
RumChicken

Can you samefag any harder? This is just sad.
Is this a concerted Discord venture to falseflag Kong? Are they getting upset over the superior Mumble Masters as they always do?

Need_TLC
Need_TLC

@FastChef

getting this buttblated over being called out a retard

you're in imbecile

farquit
farquit

@FastChef
ah, wrong guy.

that'd be, also, NOT T5.

congratulations on outing yourself as a retarded kongbabby incapable of coherent thought.

Crazy_Nice
Crazy_Nice

Who knew kong were such faggots to get triggered this easily?

Who knew kong were this fucking stupid?

King_Martha
King_Martha

unironically though where are these retarded newfags coming from?
Have we been too nice to the retards lately and so they now think they're welcome in these threads or something? Letting re ddit in was a mistake.

VisualMaster
VisualMaster

@CodeBuns
konglets
not also brainlets

@Need_TLC
you're in imbecile

So are you

Flameblow
Flameblow

unique posters; 6
24 posts
You know it's incredibly easy to tell that it's two retarded discordites desperately jerking eachother off, right? Think you might be more at home with sockpuppet accounts on /r/OutreachHPG/

TalkBomber
TalkBomber

another thread where some kong mutt gets butthurt and replies to all bait shitposters

You guys are factually retarded

VisualMaster
VisualMaster

@King_Martha

implying kong doesn't jerk off reddit and love going there for ever and ever since it existed

please, don't try and claim elitist status when you clearly can't, nor should you insist
anyone i don't like is reddit REEE

BOTH just make you look more like a fucking idiot and a giant douche.

Sharpcharm
Sharpcharm

@TalkBomber
@VisualMaster
no unique post
:^)

RavySnake
RavySnake

@Sharpcharm
that's because there's at LEAST two people trolling the REEEing kongtard.

it's amusing.

Spamalot
Spamalot

@RavySnake
It's because there's literally only two people in the thread doing it. It could even be just you, posting from your macbook and your phone.

girlDog
girlDog

@Spamalot
na, i wouldn't ever animepost. i don't evn have one of those 'smug anime girl reaction faces' folders to use.

that doesn't mean i'm EVER going to not poke fun at posters who retard out.

after all, someone posted a relatively amusing screenschot that was a sight gag, that obviously took SOME effort to prepare. and it was funny.
and then there's this asshole
who comes along and REEE's like someone posted vore scat furry gay shit.

PurpleCharger
PurpleCharger

@girlDog
muh sight gag
IT WAS JUST A PRANK BRo xD

Emberburn
Emberburn

32 posts
6 unique posters

SomethingNew
SomethingNew

@Emberburn
this entire thread is just me shitposting
the angry "kong" poster, the derisive replies, all of this drama is me via multiple proxies
are you entertained

TreeEater
TreeEater

@PurpleCharger

still mad, eh?

trashcans made up to look like trash beers

reeee post serious robots is serious content only reeeee

please, contain your exploding asshole. just because it's ruptured doesn't mean you have to ejaculate your waste everywhere.

Emberburn
Emberburn

@TreeEater
so poor and untalented he can't even come up with a good camo scheme
truly the lowest of the low

StrangeWizard
StrangeWizard

@Emberburn
dude, it's not even my screenshot.
i paint my mechs like this.

Deadlyinx
Deadlyinx

@girlDog
hello

Spamalot
Spamalot

@Emberburn
how butt blasted can you be jesus

baka

Techpill
Techpill

@Deadlyinx
worst post yet

hairygrape
hairygrape

@Spamalot
posts a literal retard
how fitting

LuckyDusty
LuckyDusty

@hairygrape
dont talk shit about mitcher

hairygrape
hairygrape

Oh. Wow. Kongfaggot still reeing?

Disregard shitter, post camo's!!!

King_Martha
King_Martha

@LuckyDusty
braindead bottle blond baka
she's sadly saliently staggeringly stupid

Emberburn
Emberburn

@King_Martha
this is the vn general now

Nude_Bikergirl
Nude_Bikergirl

@Emberburn
Fuck off you braindead lolifag
/vg/thread/201700669#p201700669

Lunatick
Lunatick

which VN is better to read first?
muv luv or fate?

kizzmybutt
kizzmybutt

@Lunatick
definitely muv luv, good luck reading!

Raving_Cute
Raving_Cute

WE alpine patterns now

Lunatick
Lunatick

@Raving_Cute
@happy_sad
it actually was lurmbrawler
PLEASE neck yourself.

Soft_member
Soft_member

@Gigastrength

Started playing MWO again after like three years off. Seems much improved. Like a playable game now.

My one issue is I have no clue how to fit anything anymore. My Atlas fit is....lacking to say the least (pic related).

Anyway, I'd figure I'd give one of the new clan heavies a try. My favorite has always been the Vulture. Does anyone have any good vulture fits? The MOD-A looks decent, but what I know of fits is probably outdated as fuck.

MPmaster
MPmaster

@Lunatick
ree kys! how dare U troll me successfully because i'm so dumb!

HA HA. NO. i will ALWAYS make fun of idiots. you being one naturally, means you keep giving threads material to exploit.

askme
askme

@MPmaster
pretends to be someone else in an attempt to legitimize his shitposting
can't resist shitposting his garbage camo schemes anyways, giving away his true identity and revealing his incredibly obvious falseflagging
Where the fuck did you come from, anyways? You're almost as bad as Pardo.

likme
likme

@Soft_member

if you play with other brawlers vulter can still bring the pain with x6 csrm6+a. firing 3 x 3 left and right they don't even provide ghost heat.

or you can drop it to four, and supplement with cermls.

StrangeWizard
StrangeWizard

@askme
actually, you're just assuming
everyyone i don't like is the same person REEE.
which again, is a hallmark of low intelligence.

animegirl poster isn't me. stop being retarded itt.
have an ac boat.

Methshot
Methshot

@likme

I'd honestly like to move away from brawlers a bit.

Seems like the game is longer range than it used to be and I find the 300m max on my Atlas to be pretty annoying.

RumChicken
RumChicken

@StrangeWizard
dumb reddittard you have to go back

Stark_Naked
Stark_Naked

@Methshot
just put ATMS on the Mad Dog (lol

DeathDog
DeathDog

@Methshot

this is your brawler MDD.
but yes. game has really nerf'd brawling now.

you could try DUAL heavy gauss.

due to the damage dropoff you play like a 'normal' gauss sniper still doing good dmg at gauss rifle ranges, and people will try to pop up on you at closer ranges, where you'll do ruly rediculous dmg. more and more people and liking the x2 HG now.

uh. anni's and kodiaks ? running multiple shotguns.

king crabs and other ballistic assaults boating some racs and shit, they seem to work for people.

of course, inner sphere can almsot freely swap SRM's for new MRM's for 500 m missile vomiting.

whereismyname
whereismyname

@RumChicken
reee reddit!
HA, wow, kongtards are dumb.

@Methshot
http://mwo.smurfy-net.de/mechlab#i=213&l=2c2d9f09ef6372f49a7b17401513d7c20bfaef8f

cum2soon
cum2soon

konglets get btfo by some tier 3 shitter

How the mighty have fallen.

Techpill
Techpill

every inane shitpost, every argument, retarded build and bad tidbit of advice can be attributed to ONE person
I can't wait until someone figures out his IGN.

Crazy_Nice
Crazy_Nice

@Methshot
http://mwo.smurfy-net.de/mechlab#i=17&l=3f9b29c4c7aeaa271284f5db28299658bb157848

this is like, a 2 minute kitbash, but maybe something like this would work for you.

pushes your range out to the 400m + profile, with everything working at the same ranges. plus max LFE.

lostmypassword
lostmypassword

anyhoo. post your robots!

Sir_Gallonhead
Sir_Gallonhead

@lostmypassword
You like my fucking cock huh don't you you 09 loving fucking whore

hairygrape
hairygrape

@Sir_Gallonhead
WTF R U even talking about? are you brain damaged?

now you're just making wrods, and hoping they make sense. are you, likie spazzing out mashing your keyboard with your face, with autofill / correct on> or some shit?

haveahappyday
haveahappyday

itt: kongtards being kongtards

PurpleCharger
PurpleCharger

@Crazy_Nice

I kinda like that.

Somewhat similar to what I have been messing with, but I had dual Rotary AC/5s instead.

@whereismyname

fuck you srm spam

So I am assuming SRMs are still OP? Good to know.

Sir_Gallonhead
Sir_Gallonhead

@PurpleCharger
any brawler build is still fucking king, IF you can play with a group and force the brawl.

unfortunately due to the nerfing 'balances' made by Pig, people still love jerking it to

turretwarrior online: a game of tower defence

far more than brawl.

an twin rac 5's are the shit , atm. if you've seen the RACwhacker, it combines it's 'unhittable' sides with an XL engine to fit two rac 5's and a crapload of ammo. then it just facetanks everything with massively frontloaded armour. and rarely ever gets side T killed. so if you're enjoying trolling enemy players by filling their screens with fire, racwhacker is a viable method.

Spamalot
Spamalot

i dont even play this stupid game, its just fun to get autists here butt mad

Garbage Can Lid
Garbage Can Lid

@happy_sad
Aesthetic firepower. Post build, please.

Raving_Cute
Raving_Cute

@Garbage Can Lid
4 csrm6xa.
4 cermls

you can funnily enough, do the same thing in a MDD (where it works even better due to the mdd having more open slots so you can stuff all the ammo in the feet etc)

it's risky in a TBR because you end up having to put ammo in sides. i know, free case, but still.

RavySnake
RavySnake

@Raving_Cute
What about omnis? Is it TBR-S with a different left arm? I already have an MDD, was just wondering about what to do with the TBR if I ever get one without ruining its aesthetics by just boating lasers.

Fried_Sushi
Fried_Sushi

@RavySnake

this is sorta what the build lookslike on a tbr

http://mwo.smurfy-net.de/mechlab#i=270&l=09796479adcafd24645dcd4ca5937f8aa37576e7

and this is how the MDD does the same thing, except better

http://mwo.smurfy-net.de/mechlab#i=212&l=0f780f7b0a451847adb8bc39e6e7233817503b87

and if you already use srms. then you can try out ATM's. they have staggred range profile dmg. at srm range they wreck, but the DO have a 120 m minimum.

then they push out progressively further for FLAT same dmg over that range.

TalkBomber
TalkBomber

How P2W is MWO?
I need a mech game to last me until monster hunter comes out in 2 weeks. It's either that or emulate Last Raven again.

FastChef
FastChef

@TalkBomber
Anyone?

cum2soon
cum2soon

@FastChef
Not pay2win desu, all mechs die the same and use the same guns.

cum2soon
cum2soon

@Fried_Sushi
The MDD I mentioned is actually an ATM boat, didn't try SRMs yet, though. Thanks for the links, I'll consider it!

@TalkBomber
From a new player's perspective, not terribly so. First 25 matches give you lots of bonus C-bills, enough to buy the biggest, baddest mech (or two smaller ones) and outfit it with some serious firepower. The exception are hero mechs, which are regular mechs with unique paintjobs and differently arranged hardpoints, but you don't really NEED those.

TalkBomber
TalkBomber

@TalkBomber
mwo isn't.

most of the best mechs are basic versions buyable for ingame currency.

and then you can just look at the (c) version of hat chassis for the current(ish) best loadout for each chassis' best version.

the real limiting factor is MECH BAYS, grinding MC for them is tedious.

MPmaster
MPmaster

@cum2soon
no worries. people tend to forget that clam mechs CAN and DO brawl really well, so the more players who can turn it aaround, and steer play away from range game gunlining turrets, the better.

brawling hairballs are always more fun.

cum2soon
cum2soon

@cum2soon
@cum2soon
@TalkBomber
What's the current meta?
Last time I played back in 2011-2012 it was pretty balanced, but I remember checking in on it once or twice over the years and seeing people bitch that it became just missile-boats and nothing else.

Spamalot
Spamalot

@cum2soon
Also: is my original founder's atlas still good, or has power creep rendered it shit?

Need_TLC
Need_TLC

Herro everyone. What's the best multiplayer mech game to play right now?

Nude_Bikergirl
Nude_Bikergirl

I'm a new player and I play very well with the trial mauler 5xUAC and want something similar but perhaps lighter not to occupy assault slots.
I've tried building heavies and as I see it can be done with jagemech, warhammer and night gyr.
Which would be the best option in your opinion?

Techpill
Techpill

@Nude_Bikergirl
4xUAC-5, self fix

Burnblaze
Burnblaze

this thread sure is full of winterfags

@cum2soon
lasers

@Spamalot
bad

Bidwell
Bidwell

Nightgyr becomes quite a beast with almost full possbile armor and if I understand it correctly, clan UAC5 ammo has twice the capacity for the same weight, sooo it looks even better than mauler except arms.

Stupidasole
Stupidasole

@Burnblaze
WTF is a winterfag?
So laser-turret-lines are king, and my old atlas got power-creep'd. What would you recommend getting as a starter mech for a returning player?

farquit
farquit

@Nude_Bikergirl
I ain't no expert but that looks way too underarmored. Maybe cut down the amount of UACs? Also hero mechs cost MC.

If you're aiming to play Quick Play solo, weight doesn't matter.

PackManBrainlure
PackManBrainlure

@Bidwell
bruh your engines are spilling out

CodeBuns
CodeBuns

@farquit
weight doesn't but assault slot does
I mean additional assault will be able to do more if I'll do the same job in a heavy
of course assaults are better, but for assault it seems underarmed for me

@PackManBrainlure
I suppose it's only a visual bug

LuckyDusty
LuckyDusty

@Bidwell
he doesn't have maxed out CT armor

Fuzzy_Logic
Fuzzy_Logic

be victor
get shot

hairygrape
hairygrape

@Fuzzy_Logic
Looks like your own team is sick of you being a useless shitter.

Illusionz
Illusionz

@Fuzzy_Logic
its because kong sucks and nobody likes you

lostmypassword
lostmypassword

@Nude_Bikergirl

Not strictly relevant to the build, but heavies tends to be the most populated queue. You may end up preferring the increased mobility of heavies, but from a matchmaking standpoint you're not taking an assault slot from someone else.

Dreamworx
Dreamworx

@Illusionz
nobody likes you
This.

Methnerd
Methnerd

leaderboards are down to 23k total
Holy fuck, how long are the queues?

King_Martha
King_Martha

@Stupidasole
Ebon Jaguar, Hellbringer, Warhammer 6D

New_Cliche
New_Cliche

@cum2soon
What's the current meta
The Deathstrike. Real money only mech :^)

Evil_kitten
Evil_kitten

@King_Martha
3 heavy laserboats
Are missiles and LBX really that bad now?

LuckyDusty
LuckyDusty

pamper bamp

Playboyize
Playboyize

Please stop making these threads. Thank you in advance.

Firespawn
Firespawn

no event for the weekend
Pathetic.

PurpleCharger
PurpleCharger

pc crashes while loading into a CW match
make it back in just as the fighting is starting
all my settings are resetted
resolution in toaster tier
all controls are fucked
struggling to find consumables and weapon groups
still break 2k, get top score and win
aww ye-
2 min penalty for leaving
fuck you piggy

Ignoramus
Ignoramus

Is it just me, or does Grim Plexus really suck on Escort or Domination matches?

SniperWish
SniperWish

@Ignoramus
yes

DeathDog
DeathDog

So let me get this straight about MWO:
clan mechs and other specialists made generalist mechs useless
laserboats rule supreme followed by missileboats and lbxboats
most new mechs have power-creeped the originals to the point that new mediums are objectively better than old assaults
there are less than 30k total people playing at this point
PB has dropped almost all support to work on MW5

Does that about sum it up?

SniperWish
SniperWish

@DeathDog
Where can I sign up for your blog?

Nojokur
Nojokur

@SniperWish
What: don't like my summary?

Burnblaze
Burnblaze

this game is dead and kong killed it

Lunatick
Lunatick

@Burnblaze
kong doing anything

BunnyJinx
BunnyJinx

@DeathDog
clan mechs and other specialists made generalist mechs useless
but clan mechs are the epitome of generalism
laserboats rule supreme followed by missileboats and lbxboats
so you're saying that two out of the three weapon categories in the game are too strong? most ballistics are fine too, LBX are good but gauss is even better
most new mechs have power-creeped the originals to the point that new mediums are objectively better than old assaults
hardly, the newest medium (hellspawn) is a joke, it's garbage and doesn't even come anywhere near the power of the hunchie, vindicator, enforcer, griffin, nova, shadowhawk, etc let alone an assault
there are less than 30k total people playing at this point
probably, but as long as I can reliably play matches who gives a shit
PB has dropped almost all support to work on MW5
PB? you mean PGI? PGI is working on MW5 while still releasing new mechs for MWO (one every month or so) and they're making a gladiator mode titled Solaris https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TU0MmjraKbo

Lord_Tryzalot
Lord_Tryzalot

@DeathDog
Generalists aren't good against live players in 12v12 matches with uncoordinated people, generally lasting 2-7minutes. In that kind of set up, you either maximize your potential damage in one way or another or get rekt. Same exact thing happened in MW4 online matches

As for new mechs outclassing old assaults, some assault mechs have always been garbage (see: generalists). Meanwhile, the timeline has been advancing, and the game isn't Succession Wars IS mechs anymore. Plenty of older mechs can be adapted to new tech, but yeah, some are just straight garbage and will likely remain so.

whereismyname
whereismyname

@BunnyJinx
Generalist implies that the mech has hardpoints restricted to different weapon classes. As in a combination of missile, ballistic, and laser hardpoints. A specialist mech can be made into a 'boat with 100% of a single weapon type in all hardpoints.

Also yes: PGI. For some reason I confused them with Piranha Bytes because I was looking at gothic games earlier.

Gigastrength
Gigastrength

@whereismyname
IS have both. They have variants that are all in on one type and variants that have a spread of weapons. Clan mechs have omnipods so you can do whatever with them and change them as you see fit whenever you'd like. IS mechs are often quirked out for bonuses to weapons/armor while clan mechs get none, or minimal quirks. By your definition of the word "generalist" you're looking for heavies/assaults, because lights/mediums simply don't have the weight/slots to make all three weapon categories fit and function. Carrying lasers, missiles and guns on a heavy is doable, carrying them on an assault is more common. Even so, using all three is tough. Ammo and heat are the first problems, but beyond that, having three (or more, depending) different weapon ranges is a lot for even experienced pilots to remember when the pressure sets in.

Anyway, basically everything else you claimed was wrong. When's the last time you actually played the game?

happy_sad
happy_sad

@Evil_kitten
No and yes. You need to be close in order to effectively use SRMs and LBX. Lasers are hitscan and can be effective at all range brackets, depending on the types of lasers. You can use this to your advantage in order to win trades at range. There's also no need to worry about ammo. Sure, heat is a problem, but you can dump two alphas and then relocate to a better position where the enemy can't shoot you.

Brawling is mostly dead unless your team makes a coordinated push while using cover. What happens if you try to cross but LRMs, lasers, and other shit start melting your mech before you can get into optimal weapons range? Even if you can cross safely, it's mostly just you that closed the distance but the rest of your retarded team is still sitting back, which means you are alone. Either that, or you sit back and wait until both teams naturally close the distance as time progresses and as attrition kicks in.

New_Cliche
New_Cliche

@Gigastrength
Are quirks on IS mechs really that much of a game changer? Are the quirks listed here: http://mwo.smurfy-net.de/#mechs_quirks_assault_innersphere accurate?

Playboyize
Playboyize

@New_Cliche
Quirks are absolutely game changing. The DRG-5N is a great example of this, with it's -40% UAC jam chance. A lot of shitty mechs are made usable because of them. I think the most recent quirk changes made gave the Orion a 10% reduction to heat across the board.

As far as I know smurfy is accurate with it's listed quirks. IS get them per variant. Clan mechs get quirks based on each omnipod part you have equipped, plus the center torso (which can't be changed between variants)

Methnerd
Methnerd

is an ECM-ATM Hellbringer a remotely good idea

girlDog
girlDog

@Methnerd
neg

Fried_Sushi
Fried_Sushi

@Playboyize
Some of those colorations there don't make much sense. Why is having a larger max engine or better deceleration colored red on some Awesome variants? Same with missile cooldown -15%?

w8t4u
w8t4u

@Stupidasole
cheesebringer

http://mwo.smurfy-net.de/mechlab#i=230&l=fd0c303b340e70abb51e8231e95ffd4d3aae0863

mad IIC
http://mwo.smurfy-net.de/mechlab#i=493&l=fc643956f1d8eabb53963c736ab409e26c88c7a9
mad iic wubs
http://mwo.smurfy-net.de/mechlab#i=493&l=63605e0df09f4f80a5f2a3c0d63146c641055a6d

Boy_vs_Girl
Boy_vs_Girl

@girlDog
A shame. I'm pretty fucking mad at myself for not buying a HBR prime back during the sale though, holy fuck.

JunkTop
JunkTop

@whereismyname
mixed hardpoint IS mechs don't got it SO bad anymore.

because any combination of IS ERML, MRM and LBX 10 will work, since everything ranges up well

have the IS laser vomiter

http://mwo.smurfy-net.de/mechlab#i=383&l=d469a98eb6b45f3279f535393892b33459cfff36

massdebater
massdebater

@whereismyname

generalists also make good brawlers. but brawl has been nerf'd

http://mwo.smurfy-net.de/mechlab#i=156&l=b387549cc8d1e3a5736ee3fa1f64fd2230d1da87

so instead of that, you might consider something like
http://mwo.smurfy-net.de/mechlab#i=156&l=bbe7d71ecffda51b3f8377e7c6ccd5bff4d2121f

PackManBrainlure
PackManBrainlure

@massdebater
Why did they nerf brawling?

PurpleCharger
PurpleCharger

@PackManBrainlure
because the braindead turretwarriors who can't drive and shoot at he same time keep REEEING at anything that isn't turreting.

especially when groups make a point of running brawl waves and running stomps all over turret shitters.

part of the reason MWO is in a bad way is that Piggy are SHIT, at everything. if any of their staff manage to attain even semi-competence, they get fired.

the other part is that the game is balanced for the potatoes. the 'balance' team listens and does whatever they think will assauge the reeeing steering wheel shitters

Flameblow
Flameblow

@Fried_Sushi
It's just the way the website was coded because I'm guessing that back in the day the only engine quirks were negative ones, not positive like the AWS receives. Smurfy has been abandoned for a long time now, but it still scrapes the games database and updates itself with relevant info.

TreeEater
TreeEater

@massdebater
What the fuck is "brawling"?
Is that CQC with SRM/LBX or something?

Burnblaze
Burnblaze

Do I just bite the bullet and put 2 gauss on the MCII-B? The UAC20s felt kind of eeeeh, put on 4 AC5s instead and it still feels sort of unefficient.

Emberburn
Emberburn

@Burnblaze
2 LBX20

Dreamworx
Dreamworx

@TreeEater
SRMs, LBX, Flamers and/or Machineguns. Generally, short range, high RoF/damage output, and often low heat weapons that can function effectively at close quarters.

Many long range weapons are still useful at close range, but they lose effectiveness due to factors like heat or rate of fire. Some also have minimum ranges, rendering them useless in CQC

Playboyize
Playboyize

@Dreamworx
remember when the centurion was good? those were the days

BlogWobbles
BlogWobbles

@Playboyize
they still are

t. dashing

Soft_member
Soft_member

@Playboyize
Speaking of, I've actually seen a handful of 'em in the past few days. I'd enjoy it more if QP hasn't been steamroll central

StrangeWizard
StrangeWizard

@BlogWobbles
Stop shitposting, we all know they don't even come remotely close to the Bushwacker.

Spamalot
Spamalot

@StrangeWizard
New to the game. Other than speed, what does the Bushie have over the Centurion?

TechHater
TechHater

This looks OK? I'm not sure if 4 tons is nearly enough AC/20 ammo, or if 10 double heatsinks in the engine is enough (ballistics are supposed to be cool but AC/20 is huge), but I never really played anything smaller than a heavy before and I kinda feel I'll need that speed that comes with a bigger engine. Will probably go for a speed tweak, too. Any obvious mistakes?

Fried_Sushi
Fried_Sushi

@Spamalot
Better quirks, a solid torso, space+weight for a pair of autocannons of your choice, beefy arms to block shots with, and even with stock engines are faster.

By comparison, Centurions are slower without an engine swap, can only reliably mount one decent autocannon, have worse quirks+armor stats, and due to their size present a much larger target.

StonedTime
StonedTime

SPOILERS we lost

Spazyfool
Spazyfool

@TechHater
Looks alright to me, though I've never run a Hunchie before. The AC shouldn't be a heat problem, if anything those ERML will be the largest source of heat for you. When it comes to AC20 ammo, the ideal is always 'more', but 4t should be a decent payload for a match. Just avoid wasting shots and you should be good.

farquit
farquit

Haruko nudes when?

happy_sad
happy_sad

@Spazyfool
Yeah I could switch to regular MLs but I kinda want something for longer range poking. Could also take ERSLs and add in some more ammo if I feel I don't have enough. The engine is the biggest investment, really, with the damn thing being so expensive and all. But going fast is nice.

TechHater
TechHater

@farquit
You know who to ask

takes2long
takes2long

@New_Cliche
This used to be the case but now that you can buy the other Mad Cat Mk IIs for C-bills you can run 2 Gauss 4HML on the MCII-1 and it should perform pretty damn well, if slightly less good than the 2 Gauss 6ERML Deathstrike.

Techpill
Techpill

is this a bug or is there a hotkey that only shows friendly tags when you aim at them?

BinaryMan
BinaryMan

@Techpill
what is this build

Methnerd
Methnerd

@BinaryMan
Sniper Ghillie. Most pubbies are too stupid to notice it due to the stealth armor. Case in point, when I was flanking with him, a Huntsman and Dire Whale went right for me and passed him.

lostmypassword
lostmypassword

@Methnerd

yeah sorry for sorta leaving you to die

cum2soon
cum2soon

@Techpill
@BinaryMan
@lostmypassword
god this is such a pathetic build, a whopping 15 damage every 5 seconds

Sir_Gallonhead
Sir_Gallonhead

@cum2soon
Good for making webms though. Isn't that the thing that matters?

kizzmybutt
kizzmybutt

@cum2soon

doesn't stop it from being fun

viagrandad
viagrandad

@TechHater

Kakos?

TalkBomber
TalkBomber

@Sir_Gallonhead
It doesn't matter at all. It's not like the ghillie has a monopoly on stealth armor either.

Bidwell
Bidwell

@viagrandad
guess again

Firespawn
Firespawn

@TalkBomber

the ghillie has a monopoly on being the smallest stealth armor mech that can viably use goose, which is the only weapon to viably use whilst stealth armor is active. plus the 30% cbill boost makes up for how terrible and useless you are.

StrangeWizard
StrangeWizard

@lostmypassword
Don't blame ya. QP teams have been absolute garbage today. Even if I survived there, our entire team had pretty much folded by that point and I would've ate shit shortly after anyway.

Evilember
Evilember

@viagrandad
Phillip you fucking moron holy shit how fucking ignorant are you were you born yesterday have you never been in the Kong mumble once in your life? You disgust me you filthy pleb.

Evil_kitten
Evil_kitten

that wonderful feeling when mechwarrior online generals were new
seeing pics here first of alpha when Piggy were full nda

what happened

TreeEater
TreeEater

@Evil_kitten
Age kills everything. One day you'll look back on MWO, the game completely and literally dead (like Hawken) and reminisce about it.

Need_TLC
Need_TLC

@TechHater
4G is poop, use the BSW-X2 or YLW instead for AC20 mediums

TurtleCat
TurtleCat

@Need_TLC
I already bought it, and I like Hunchback aesthetically. It's a cool mech.

Sir_Gallonhead
Sir_Gallonhead

@Evilember
::steamsalty::
?
????
what did she meme by this

King_Martha
King_Martha

@TurtleCat
Don't listen to him the Hunchback is fine.
Just remember your Torso Twisting Fundies.

Bidwell
Bidwell

Who will protect me?

eGremlin
eGremlin

Who even wants Haruko nudes at this point anyway? She's like 27 now.

hairygrape
hairygrape

@eGremlin
Accurs "Philly Pie Cheese Cake" 3D had a chance to tap that
what could have been

Burnblaze
Burnblaze

@Bidwell

I will protect you, VIP kun.

Bidwell
Bidwell

@Bidwell
I love Alex's art overall but those X-shape patterns really annoy me, they're usually put on thin metal surfaces to strengthen them against deformation and I expect Atlas' legs to be armored and not made out of tin.

Unless it's a commentary on how most people skimp on leg armour...

farquit
farquit

@Sir_Gallonhead
This was like, MONTHS ago. But if I remember the context, she was upset at Phillipe for rejecting her most recent advances.

TurtleCat
TurtleCat

@farquit

I guess she'll forever remain a virgin and alone.

FastChef
FastChef

@farquit
she

w8t4u
w8t4u

@farquit
be haruko
get rejected by even a konglord
is Phillipe... perhaps... /ourguy/?

Illusionz
Illusionz

I've been playing mwo for about three days now, a few questions that I still have
When I spectate, I notice some guys have this in-box zoom instead of the shitty 2x. How do I get that?
I'm earning about 180k a match. Is this normal? If so, the grind seems absurd for how many mechs there are, even without considering variants.
How do I find friends

Harmless_Venom
Harmless_Venom

@Gigastrength

Want to buy first mech.

Thinking Mad Cat.

What variant?

BunnyJinx
BunnyJinx

@Illusionz
The Picture in Picture zoom is Advanced Zoom. It used to be a module but now it's in the Sensor Skill tree. Worth the investment if you're a sniper. It's hotkey activated, I think the default key is V?
180k a match
You'll earn more as you get better, and if you have premium you can expect to make like 400k.
Nonpremium? I think 250k is about high-average. It takes a while to get a new mech, yeah.
friends
The friends system is kinda shitty, if you want to make friends you'll want to do it in communities surrounding the game. This thread, Reddit, maybe even the gold forums.
@Harmless_Venom
Mad Cat as in Timberwolf or Mad Cat as in Mk II? If it's the Timberwolf, buy the A C or D for the 1E CT. If it's the Mad Cat Mk II, the MCII-1 is a budget Deahstrike (dual gauss HML), the 2 and 4 are good for something involving missiles (the 2 would probably run 2 LBX20+SRMs, the 4 probably runs ATMs+Large Lasers) and the MCII-B is good for multiple ballistics (4 hardpoints) or running big ballistics with lower arm actuators so they can track targets in close (like an LBX20+20 build, with backup lasers instead of SRMs)

StonedTime
StonedTime

@BunnyJinx
This thread
That's what I meant. This game looks like it would be funner with comms.

VisualMaster
VisualMaster

@StonedTime
Yes and no. Kong Drops are notoriously bad and you will have to face much better players in group drops than solo-queue.

kizzmybutt
kizzmybutt

@VisualMaster
I'm just here to have fun, so I wouldn't mind losing. I just started playing, it's not like I'm any good myself.

Spazyfool
Spazyfool

@BunnyJinx

Mad Cat as in Timber Wolf.

Leaning towards C since it has jumpjets.

Not sure how to fit it though.

whereismyname
whereismyname

@Spazyfool
C
You mean the S? The Jumpjets are Omni-pod based, so you should buy a C and simply slap S STs on it if you want JJs.
That being said, very few people run JJs on the Timber Wolf because they're heavy and they don't really do that much, most people who have them have them because the TBR-S RT is the only RT with an energy hardpoint (the Warrant has one too but that's a hero mech)

Carnalpleasure
Carnalpleasure

@whereismyname

Yep, whoops I meant S.

How do you fit a Timber Wolf anyway?

Burnblaze
Burnblaze

@Soft_member

Depending on the MDD, you can do the Prime or H with dual ATM 12's and some ERMLs for fun missile blasts . Just remember ATMs hit like a truck inside 270-300 (depending on range mods) but deadzone to zero at 120m.

Speaking of ATMs, this was Mining and everyone kept blocking my shots so this episode was "secure kills with my heavy large + large pulse wubsaber arm" except the first one, which was "fuck you, I have ATMs so die instantly now pls." lock-on missiles aren't so good here.

BinaryMan
BinaryMan

@Carnalpleasure
It's a 75 ton clan heavy with good omni-pods, you can do just about ANYTHING you want with it. Figure out the niche you want it to do and someone can probably crank out a build for you.

idontknow
idontknow

@Burnblaze
Brain Cancer
500 damage match
lmao???

Lord_Tryzalot
Lord_Tryzalot

@Methnerd

I did one with ATM 21-24 with random backup lasers on the ATM torso. It's kinda OK, but that's eclipsed because it can do so much more generally with straight laservomit.

CodeBuns
CodeBuns

@Burnblaze

How are ATMs at range?

@BinaryMan

I was hoping to try out something with range.

Brawling is fun and all, but it is kinda hard to get into range.

kizzmybutt
kizzmybutt

@idontknow

Like I said, it's Mining and it sucks when you're firing ATMs and random shitters block your line of sight when the cover doesn't. I got most of my damage save the solo kill off of sticking my laser arm on the OnionIIC around team members and burning out CTs. They killed the two lights and then we pretty much gangraped the entire red team, I really only saved this one because it was me being a kill-securing precision bastard rather than my usual "how many ATMs can I bludgeon you with today?"

Stark_Naked
Stark_Naked

@CodeBuns
Long range pinpoint, if you don't hate Gauss; http://mwo.smurfy-net.de/mechlab#i=164&l=5e0dcfc3b77c37c8f2386c792a24e1e22cac39d5
Medium-long range if you love laservomit;
http://mwo.smurfy-net.de/mechlab#i=164&l=a84215a03fc20780ef635860ecd93a1a02735c77

iluvmen
iluvmen

@Stark_Naked

MW4 guass was the shit.

This new charge to shoot guass sucks.

iluvmen
iluvmen

@CodeBuns

Depending on range mods (skill tree, Firepower) you're decently effective out to 500-600m. ATMs in their nearest rangeband are 3 damage per missile (max 300m), then 2 damage per missile (which is still decent), and out to max range after 600m they drop to 1 damage per missile and are inefficient as fuck, but with 200-250 velocity you don't want to generally waste shots past 600m anyway. ATMs can with range mods hit as far as 1235m, but your targets are going have to either be ultraexposed (Polar, Alpine) or truly stupid shitters at those ranges, though it's good for trolling people who think nobody could possibly hit them at 1000+ and do any damage. You won't do much, but you will dent them a bit.

24+ ATMs (27 being the most you can do without GH, but assaults can legit fire 48 at once) being used at proper ranges will do bad things to most opponents, and if they're retarded enough to let you hang out inside 300, there won't be any opponents at all in no time. Only one of these KMDDs was a killshot, I ended up crippling four others with short-medium range missile pummeling for the team to finish off, then just finished off two more with lasers as part of the group effort. You can see the trail of dead robots that tried to get at me charging around the hill in the SS.

Gigastrength
Gigastrength

@iluvmen

Gauss didn't always have the charge and release shots, but PGI just couldn't into balancing them so they added that in to make them harder to use.

So yes, it sucks. And they were still good enough to end up spookyheat linked to PPCs and limited to firing 2 at a time.

StrangeWizard
StrangeWizard

downloading MWO right now
game says download is 18gigs
download is at 10 gigs so far
completion bar is only at like 10%

ruh roh

CodeBuns
CodeBuns

@Fried_Sushi
Thx, mate. That helps.

Nude_Bikergirl
Nude_Bikergirl

@CodeBuns
np

SniperGod
SniperGod

@Stark_Naked

I will probably go withtve laservomit, thanks (though it just feels wrong not having missile ears).

Was also playing with a laser/atm combo, but not sure if I can fit enough lasers to make it worth it.

Evilember
Evilember

@SniperGod
cool

PackManBrainlure
PackManBrainlure

this game is shit

haveahappyday
haveahappyday

@SniperGod

Speaking of, is this a terrible fit?

http://mwo.smurfy-net.de/mechlab#i=164&l=13e0890db3695c699f97d554f3a7cf834ecc18bf

PackManBrainlure
PackManBrainlure

@haveahappyday
Call it a build, "fit" sounds like you're a groid discussing your snapback
Problems- 7ERML (use 6ERML on a build max so you don't ghost heat yourself to death/have to stagger fire them)
Uses a Warrant Right Torso (that's a Hero mech you'll have to pay real money for, which I doubt you want to do)
But the biggest problem is that your missile launchers don't have any ammo.

Booteefool
Booteefool

Quick revision for you.
Four tons of ammo, which is probably enough for two ATM-12s, no hero omnipods and an optimum amount of ERMLs (6) http://mwo.smurfy-net.de/mechlab#i=164&l=266988a0366b401c7e17057894f49edd270df12c

Need_TLC
Need_TLC

@Booteefool

Thanks, I was playing with something similar, but was hesitant to remove the heatsinks.

lostmypassword
lostmypassword

@Need_TLC
Basically have to sacrifice the heatsinks to get the tonnage for the ammo. 19 heatsinks should be more than enough, especially once you have a skill tree going. You might have to use one weapon group at a time since ER Meds are tremendously hot. You'll get a feel for the heat curve yourself though and know when you can mix the lasers in and when you can't.

DeathDog
DeathDog

@lostmypassword

I just gave it a shot. Runs a little hotter than I like, but it is pretty nice.

TreeEater
TreeEater

@w8t4u
philipe is /ourgay/

Firespawn
Firespawn

@DeathDog
Do you have the full cool run skill tree as well as nodes in your weapon tree? If you haven't kitted it out with skill points yet then it'll get cooler as you do, so don't be too discouraged by how hot it is right now.

StrangeWizard
StrangeWizard

@Firespawn
Yea I don't have a single skill point allocated (and have no clue how to work those skill trees).

Even so it is managable. Three laser bursts back to back gives me a shutdown, but a little spacing and I am okay.

Nude_Bikergirl
Nude_Bikergirl

@Gigastrength

Anyone got any idea if a new armoured core is ever coming out?

Anyone ever played Ring of Red?

Playboyize
Playboyize

@StrangeWizard
Skill trees take exp and C-bills (it's kinda expensive actually, but such is life in Grindwarrior online and it's basically essential to get the most out of your mech)
If nobody else posts skill trees I'll boot the game up in a few hours so I can give you an idea of what your trees should look like (although they ultimately come down to personal preference, there are some nodes you'll want)

@Nude_Bikergirl
Fromsoft announced an Armored Core title god knows how long ago but I don't think anyone has heard anything new about it so who knows. Maybe we'll get another big announcement this year?

New_Cliche
New_Cliche

is this the best game ever made?

Evilember
Evilember

@StrangeWizard
https://kitlaan.gitlab.io/mwoskill/

Skills sort of explain themselves. Take existing quirks and loadouts, then improve them.

@Playboyize
At least you don't need 3 Mechs to master anymore. That opened me to buying a ton more Mech Bays and Mechs.

Snarelure
Snarelure

armored core > mechwarrior

Spamalot
Spamalot

turn PC off at night and go to sleep
Haruko mentioned
PC turns back on

OH NO NO NO

Dreamworx
Dreamworx

@Spamalot
show pusy

Lord_Tryzalot
Lord_Tryzalot

@Spamalot
lamo at PHILLIPOE
how CUAKCED can 1 (one) man EVEN BE

TechHater
TechHater

pity bamp

idontknow
idontknow

@TechHater
retarded shitty pissbaby thread nobody will miss it when it falls off page 10 like it does every day before getting anywhere near the bump limit

Nude_Bikergirl
Nude_Bikergirl

@idontknow
wanna yiff?

Lunatick
Lunatick

@Nude_Bikergirl
no im a shark

Raving_Cute
Raving_Cute

@StrangeWizard

When you can only fly in bad weather for a few hours because the weather damages your exposed engines.

King_Martha
King_Martha

@idontknow
Waaaaaahhhhhhhhhhh

lostmypassword
lostmypassword

I want to get into clan mechs. What's the best hero to buy for starters?

5mileys
5mileys

@lostmypassword
Virago.

JunkTop
JunkTop

@5mileys
It doesn't have endo or ferro-fibrous. Looks garbage at first glance. Why would they make such a shitty hero?

MPmaster
MPmaster

@JunkTop
lore

cum2soon
cum2soon

@JunkTop
Because it's not a loretard game. Hellbringer is a powerful meta mech and a hero Hellbringer is a c-bill printing machine.

askme
askme

@cum2soon
How do you build it?

takes2long
takes2long

@askme
2HLL, 4ERML, ECM.

GoogleCat
GoogleCat

@takes2long
Ok. So it requires another 14M+ cbills after getting the hero chassis to be actually useable. Great. Is there anything that doesn't need omnipods from multiple mechs?

Lord_Tryzalot
Lord_Tryzalot

@GoogleCat
warhammer 6r

Nude_Bikergirl
Nude_Bikergirl

@GoogleCat
nigga you just need the one omnipod, not an entire second robot

eGremlin
eGremlin

@Nude_Bikergirl
Can you buy just single omnipods?

LuckyDusty
LuckyDusty

@eGremlin
Yes, so long as they're from mechs that would otherwise be available for c-bills.

PurpleCharger
PurpleCharger

How good is this? Not sure about mixing LRMs with other stuff.

Ignoramus
Ignoramus

@eGremlin
Yes. Mechlab window, there'll be a tab past weapons, ammo, equipment, and engines that says OMNIPODS. For clan mechs, you can buy any omnipod for that same mech (aside from Hero pods) and then mix and match to your heart's content. You'll miss out on some Set-of-8 quirks for Clan mechs if you mix, but on many mechs those aren't that great so you won't miss out on much.

Most pods run for about 200k-ish, though I haven't looked in a while. Plus those weapons and ECM, you'll be spending 1mil-ish, 2mil tops

CodeBuns
CodeBuns

@takes2long
Something like this? How can this be optimal with no endosteel. Is the ecm really that good? I can get ebon jaguar with more lasters and heatsinks than this.

likme
likme

@PurpleCharger
Personally, I'd swap the LRMs for SRMs, since you'll be fucked if someone decides to close in for a brawl. Even between the goose rifles and ERLL, you'll be putting out quite a bit of firepower downrange. Be mindful not to tunnel-vision though. If you keep the LRMs, you'll be all long range, and if you're spending your time focusing on some guy 800m out, you might not notice the guys flanking your side or rear.

Lunatick
Lunatick

@PurpleCharger
lrms and gauss and lasers

@CodeBuns
brainlet

RumChicken
RumChicken

@CodeBuns
haha epic pretending to be retarded trell xddd

WebTool
WebTool

I'm sure this is going to get some epik meme responses, but what stage of its life is MWO online?
Is new meaningful content being added, like new maps and game modes and features? Or are they just streamlining in premium mechs to milk the few whales who still play a dying game?

TalkBomber
TalkBomber

@WebTool
the latter

Dreamworx
Dreamworx

@Lunatick
PPC and gauss are in the same ghost heat group so you can't fire them in an alpha anyway. You can fire gauss + LLs though.

TechHater
TechHater

tfw liked the UAC2 niggyr
couldn't play this game for the longest time
decide to update it and check it again
piggy nerfed clam uacs
piggy has introduced and not even made an effort to fix clam UAC jam bug, meaning clan UAC2 DPS is utter negro shit (just the way piggy likes it from their new masters)

BlogWobbles
BlogWobbles

@WebTool
both

BlogWobbles
BlogWobbles

@WebTool
They barely add new maps/weapons, and every balance patch is hand crafted to coddle dumbass IS FP players
it's all cash bots all the time, polar conquest/escort with lurm brawler stick fags, take it or leave it

w8t4u
w8t4u

@TechHater
clam UAC jam bug
What bug? There's a bug?

Flameblow
Flameblow

@w8t4u
Jams on the first doubletap bug
overall increased clan jam chance meaning that the UAC2's only advantage over the overly obese c-AC2 and the garbage c-LBX2 is made moot
the more uacs you have on your mech, the greater the chance that you'll have at least one of them jam
even having 4 UAC2s on chainfire, trying to repeatedly tap them to get at least 1 or 2 doubletaps out of the 4 guns out in their reload cycle will most likely end up with 1-3 of them JAMMED after the first double tap

in b4 "just don't double tap it"

Why even use a clan UAC if you can't double tap it?

RavySnake
RavySnake

@Flameblow
@w8t4u
Like, I could run [pic related] back before the jam bug was introduced and the jam chances were increased, and the 4x UAC2 niggyr could trade shots against ERLL snipers and come out on top.

Harmless_Venom
Harmless_Venom

@RavySnake
That looks like a walking bomb.

Emberfire
Emberfire

Is this worth doing over the typical 2HLL 6ERML stuff MAD does?
https://youtu.be/XIsGedujcEg

Booteefool
Booteefool

@Emberfire
Damn son, I really want to y1ff TheB33f!

King_Martha
King_Martha

do you no de wae?

AwesomeTucker
AwesomeTucker

@Playboyize
That's because they don't want to publicise that its just another souls game wearing an AC skin.

5mileys
5mileys

@StrangeWizard
Welcome to Windows.

JunkTop
JunkTop

How much would be enough AC5 ammo?

TurtleCat
TurtleCat

is it a mistake to get into mwo now

Booteefool
Booteefool

@TurtleCat
No more of a mistake than any other time. If anything, I'd just wait til another event starts up. They're good for raking in extra Cbills, cosmetics, and higher activity.

PurpleCharger
PurpleCharger

ded gameu

Firespawn
Firespawn

Newfag here, I have some more questions
Are ER-PPCs the longest-ranged non-missile weapon in the game?
Does your TAG affect allied missiles?
What are jump jets even for?
Do engine heatsinks count the same as regular heatsinks?
Should I wait until I have four mechs before even clicking on the faction tab? I don't even have enough for a second one right now.
No really how do I find friends

RumChicken
RumChicken

Is it APT?

Dreamworx
Dreamworx

@Firespawn
CERLL is actally longer ranged than CERPPC
TAG helps allies yes
Getting into good sniping position on some maps. They're pretty bad overall though.
Engine doubles are true double heatsinks that give 0.2/s dissipation. Non -engine doubles are fakedubs that give 0.14/s dissipation.
Faction play is a shitfest where you'll get stoped by premades. Don't bother if you don't have a squad on voicecomms.
Get on voicechat to find friends.

whereismyname
whereismyname

@Dreamworx
Thank you for your help.
So I should just be doing Quick Play most of the time?
And premades still sound like a fun idea.

Skullbone
Skullbone

Please stop making these threads. Thank you in advance.

girlDog
girlDog

@whereismyname
nah m8, do factions, feels much less painful, pls you get to nail the nigga that nailed you.

StonedTime
StonedTime

Please keep making these thread. Blow job in advance.

Raving_Cute
Raving_Cute

did they give up on doing welfare events with cbills and shit? it's been like a month without anything i basically don't even login at all at this point

WebTool
WebTool

@Raving_Cute
it's over. MWO is done like Haruko's love life

Illusionz
Illusionz

laem thread

StonedTime
StonedTime

MWO portal patching thing just freezes up my entire computer the instant it tries to download a patch

viagrandad
viagrandad

@Spamalot
i havent been here for a few days so it wasnt the crab lord doing it this time, one of the oldies

CodeBuns
CodeBuns

Reminder to airstrike your team mates and enemies

Harmless_Venom
Harmless_Venom

die thred die?

StrangeWizard
StrangeWizard

@StonedTime
Well? Where's the BJ?

Spamalot
Spamalot

Quad mechs when?

Playboyize
Playboyize

@StonedTime
works on my machine

StrangeWizard
StrangeWizard

@StrangeWizard
Did you say BJ?

Illusionz
Illusionz

you will NEVER take Haruko's virginity.

iluvmen
iluvmen

@Spamalot
for what purpose. They'd be just inferior with no arms.

haveahappyday
haveahappyday

@Spamalot
literally never

DeathDog
DeathDog

Hello?

BunnyJinx
BunnyJinx

@DeathDog
Is it me you're looking for?

Illusionz
Illusionz

@BunnyJinx

Hi there!

Booteefool
Booteefool

@WebTool
something has to start for it to end

TurtleCat
TurtleCat

@Illusionz
I love that mech!

happy_sad
happy_sad

@Harmless_Venom
It was if you got caught out, but being able to snipe from 900m away let you pump out 8-16 damage every 0.72 seconds.

Sharpcharm
Sharpcharm

@Booteefool
Is the Mauler anything more than just a target?

FastChef
FastChef

what are some good meaty brawl builds
preferably heavy/medium mech

thinking shadowhawk

Evil_kitten
Evil_kitten

@Evilember
@Playboyize

So what, just fill the nodes that give what I want?

Does everything work as described? Or are some totally useless, not worth the points, etc?

So something like this for weapons?
https://kitlaan.gitlab.io/mwoskill/?p=jsonbin1.5a5c6f9cacbc7b5460be2ee5#s=Weapons

kizzmybutt
kizzmybutt

Theres nothing to do in MWO rn and i seem to like that Ghille-stealth-webms.

Hows that build for stupid stealth-sniping?

http://mwo.smurfy-net.de/mechlab#i=640&l=23b4aea8a40d05eb913b196cd4f701de16ee9d28

BinaryMan
BinaryMan

How can we call ourselves giant extreme robots without hawken?

lostmypassword
lostmypassword

@BinaryMan
We can only Awooo~ now.

Lord_Tryzalot
Lord_Tryzalot

i had dream about KONG
gathered
droppan in a stealth-Ghille
pubbies just dont know where are we
one-shot them one-by-one via coordinated gaussvomit
and the dream faded away
Fuck this gay Earth.

Sir_Gallonhead
Sir_Gallonhead

baaaaamp

Fuzzy_Logic
Fuzzy_Logic

@Sir_Gallonhead
no

Dreamworx
Dreamworx

@Fuzzy_Logic
Why not though?

farquit
farquit

nice

Carnalpleasure
Carnalpleasure

@Fuzzy_Logic
yes

Sharpcharm
Sharpcharm

6 man group cannot do over 600 damage combined

S M H

Carnalpleasure
Carnalpleasure

@CodeBuns

Run 2 HLL + 3 ERML, and put it all in the torso.

Your arms are basically meaningless here, you want it all in the side torsos where it's a tightly packed laservomit blast. Just stick a few DHS in there.

http://mwo.smurfy-net.de/mechlab#i=592&l=70c500e28a9810c061a12ed279e69979318c389d

Playboyize
Playboyize

if you are carrying narc, bring your own fucking lrms. you have no excuse.

Emberburn
Emberburn

@PurpleCharger

This poor bastard suffers a bit from ECM = fewer hardpoints. I mean, we're talking an assault with six, one of which is in the head. That's why you don't see many -D's out there, they're pretty narrow on viable builds.

CouchChiller
CouchChiller

@Playboyize
What's even the point of LRM10? 10 points of very spread out damage?

DeathDog
DeathDog

@CouchChiller

its either that or bring a narc, stealth armor and a few medium lasers that won't do shit when any other light tries to kill you. the 3L is pretty much a garbage mech but at least now you can use your own narcs in the event that no one else has LRMs

Emberfire
Emberfire

@Playboyize

Except being so light you can't carry shit for missile load and a single AMS will BRRRRT your annoying dribble away. Keep it simple, stupid. Heavies with their own NARC? Sure. Mount some LRMs on that fucker. But a Raven that's NARCing shouldn't be worrying about anything except podding targets and being a sneaky git while lasering things.

http://mwo.smurfy-net.de/mechlab#i=33&l=932a9a3c82875102f426c651e5f6098929c50fb7

1) Sneak up on targets.
2) NARC one.
3) Shoot in ass with lasers.
4) Run away, repeat.

SniperGod
SniperGod

@Emberfire

You can also squeeze more firepower out of it by going 3MPL+ RL 20 + NARC w/1.5 tons of ammo and a 255XL, or this:

http://mwo.smurfy-net.de/mechlab#i=33&l=9f46075409c4e819b2ee45aa44317cb3e560570f

MRM hits make great cover for NARC pods, and it gives you something more useful than the lurm sprinkles.

girlDog
girlDog

@Emberfire
But a Raven that's NARCing shouldn't be worrying about anything except podding targets and being a sneaky git while lasering things.

great but if you're the only lrm mech then all you're doing is spotting mechs and doing shit damage. not to mention narc has like a 650m range so you don't even NEED to be sneaky. all you do is just pop out of cover, narc, then spook them into running away with some lrms.

viagrandad
viagrandad

@girlDog

All the while advertising LOOK HERE, I'M A FUCKING LRM LIGHT PLS IGNORE ECM AND RAPE RAPE RAPE.

You're sacrificing 4.5-5 tons of weapons for NARC on an IS robot, there's no real way to get much more firepower than 3 decent lasers on a Raven if you do.

If there's no LRM robots, your LRM 10 is still basically useless other than a position giveaway. You know what basically has the same hardpoint count as the 3L without ECM?

Loyalty Urbie. Take away the ECM tonnage, and you're looking at about the same weapons load.

Speaking of, you can also just drop ECM and build something like the usual -3L poker, going XL255 with 2ERLL + NARC, but then you're not so sneaky.

JunkTop
JunkTop

@viagrandad

you don't need to be sneaky when you go 120kph. you seem to be under the impression that you have to be flanking hard around the map to be useful but all you need to do is poke out from your firing line and narc.

from my experience using both, all it takes to demoralize an enemy and make them panic is to narc them and make the 'incomming missile' warning pop up. they don't check to see how much damage they're taking they just turn tail and run.

whereismyname
whereismyname

@BinaryMan
By forgetting it. It was shit. For all we complain about MWO they didn't fail like Hawken so they must be doing something right..

CodeBuns
CodeBuns

Ignore the retard, it's just lurmbrawler worshipping the LRM like the braindead retard he is and trying to lead someone astray into using a shit build.

Lord_Tryzalot
Lord_Tryzalot

Cool story bro

Nude_Bikergirl
Nude_Bikergirl

If you aren't building your NARC raven with 3x MPL and stealth armor, you're doing it fucking wrong.

Soft_member
Soft_member

@Nude_Bikergirl

too bad with stealth armor on you can't even tell if you narced the mech or not unless you're within 200m

Soft_member
Soft_member

There is he with his eternal butthurt, assmad because for some unknown reason he thinks LRMs are the best weapon type in the game (even though the vast community has always considered them to range from bad-acceptable) and that every single mech with a missile hardpoint should include an LRM in some capacity.
Is he a Mechwarrior babby who used his singular LRM10 rack to shit all over AI opponents to great effect and has since autistically clung to his childhood memories? I mean, we know he has Grogtism because of his camo schemes that all incorporate the same decal combo.

Emberburn
Emberburn

@Soft_member
That's why you can take the low ground/ back routes, NARC a target and pop stealth armor on the moment you see them get the narc symbol on them.

Or you know, co-ordinate on voip with people if your narc managed to hit X target.

King_Martha
King_Martha

What mechs would you like seen in MWO?

GoogleCat
GoogleCat

@King_Martha
Lao Hu

Emberfire
Emberfire

@King_Martha
Blood Kite.

hairygrape
hairygrape

@King_Martha
Stinger; Wasp

StrangeWizard
StrangeWizard

@King_Martha
For inner sphere?

Something like the Gunslinger, Bandersnatch and Flea (with engine desync and slight nerf of MASC mk.1 the game could handle it).

For clans?

Blood Kite, Blood Asp, Hellion, Kingfisher, Hellfire, Rifleman IIC, Warhammer IIC, Loki mk2, Thor mk2.

DeathDog
DeathDog

@King_Martha
IS: Crusader, Ostroc
Clan: Who cares, they're just filthy Clanners.

cum2soon
cum2soon

My favorite thing is the grogs that want the Avatar.
There are people who unironically want a 70 ton heavy with a 280XL

Gigastrength
Gigastrength

@StrangeWizard
blood kite
LRM or ATMs galore on this one.

blood asp
weaker than mad cat mk2, because torso mounted side torso gauss that are far above the cockpit.

Hellion
A humanoid version of the Kit fox, because E variant has head mounted ECM, and comes with optional jump jets, and max 9.5 tons of podspace to put into weapons. MASC mounted on the chassis to help with its 97.2 kph base speed (104 kph with tweak).

Kingfisher
Really interesting clan zombie 90 ton omni, since it comes with a standard engine (but endo, ferro AND double heatsinks, so you have 25 odd tons to put into guns) and plenty of laser hardpoints (between 7 and 9 depending on what variant CT you use). One variant could pull off 8x MPL zombie brawler.

Hellfire
A 60 tonner that has about 20 tons of podspace and runs slower than the mad dog. Not a really good pick.

Rifleman IIC
Cockpit height gauss rifles, oh boy.

Warhammer IIC
A ballistic/ energy battlemech 85 tonner. Clans could use this one.

Snarelure
Snarelure

what huntsman/hunchIIC should I buy as my first mech for scouting to start levelling it up?
how viable as single player scouting actually? should I bother or just play QP?

inb4 hunchIIC LBX40

Soft_member
Soft_member

Is it possible to have an Annihilator with 4 UAC/20s?

Supergrass
Supergrass

@cum2soon
If it got okay armor quirks, it could do some nice things, like 2x MRM30 + 6x ML with jump jets.

TechHater
TechHater

@Supergrass
It's an IS XL engine is the problem. You're running a heavy that EVERYONE is going to shoot in the side torso, and once your ST pops your mech is dead.

Bidwell
Bidwell

@Gigastrength
What makes a RAC/5 "5", exactly? I understand with other autocannons, they do X damage with one click, so an AC/20 does 20 damage in one shot when you fire once and I believe Clan AC/20 fires a 4-round burst of 5 damage projectiles. Ultra means you can double-tap, risking a jam. But what about Rotaries?

Snarelure
Snarelure

Assaults chasing lights

WHY?

iluvmen
iluvmen

@Bidwell
5DPS

Gigastrength
Gigastrength

@iluvmen
I see. Another question - lots of mech have modifiers that lower UAC jamming chance, do they somehow work for RACs too? I'm asking because in the skill tree the same nodes affect both UACs and RACs.

Ignoramus
Ignoramus

@Gigastrength
Nope. UAC quirks are UAC quirks, like how a Medium Laser quirk won't affect Medium Pulse Lasers.

MPmaster
MPmaster

@Ignoramus
like how a Medium Laser quirk won't affect Medium Pulse Lasers
Wow, now I wasn't sure about UAC/RAC but that's unexpected. What about ERMLs?

Playboyize
Playboyize

@MPmaster
ER Lasers are separate from regular lasers, so unless your mech has ER Laser quirks (Uziel 5P, Skokomish, clan mechs) you'll have to use regular lasers for quirks.

viagrandad
viagrandad

Dual RAC/2 marauder with XL and no twisting

Nice easy side torso kill.

hairygrape
hairygrape

@Bidwell
In TT, the same RAC/5 can spit out six actual five-point hits in one burst. MWO spreads the same damage across the firing time of the gun instead.

RumChicken
RumChicken

@Snarelure

Can't resist chasing them squirrels.

VisualMaster
VisualMaster

@RumChicken
Squirrel mech when?

GoogleCat
GoogleCat

see a light behind me in my Atlas
okay they told me to ignore squirrels
leave him be, continue moving forward
a minute later something shoots me from behind and leaves my CT orange
turn around to face it
it's the light from earlier
he continues kiting me, doing more and more damage to my cherry red CT
before I can get my back to a wall or inflict any amount of real damage on him he kills me
Remember not to chase squirrels guys :^)

Evil_kitten
Evil_kitten

I can see why the HBK-IIC is meta, he's a mean little fucker. Almost got both UAC skills to make him meaner

TurtleCat
TurtleCat

@GoogleCat
You don't chase the squirrel, because you're at best half it's speed. Lights and mediums? Go right ahead and fuck it's shit up. Then, if you're me while the two of them are circling each other, you dump an ATM alpha into the little guy, then burn a leg off if you can get lasers on it and enjoy your varmint stew.

But if the light decides to run, you don't chase it in an Atlas. That's retarded, especially since he wants you to chase him into a firing line of his buddies.

askme
askme

@Evil_kitten
UAC
Man I miss the glory days of 8ER Med Hunchback IICs fucking melting things. I wonder how it is nowadays with like 7 Heavy Meds.

askme
askme

So I've finally built that Hunchback 4G I wanted.
Played a couple of matches
Wow, this sucks compared to ATMs
I actually have to aim, this is bullshit
Only 20 damage per shot, why do people even use this shit
And then I got HPG Manifold and 5 killing blows. That was actually pretty fun!

farquit
farquit

Is there a write-up about ghostheat anywhere? I think I get the idea but I'm not a 100%. Basically related weapons group-fired generate a bonus chunk of heat if you hit a threshold?

PurpleCharger
PurpleCharger

@farquit

we can’t balance our game, so we nerfed the most common fits by giving them stupid heat bonuses when you fire x amount of weapons of a certain type/combo

DeathDog
DeathDog

@PurpleCharger
I got that but is there a list of fits and/or the amount of heat generated? I see the heat simulator in the OP but it seems it just tells you whether your load out got hit by GH

Emberburn
Emberburn

Newfag here, what weapon is King of crit fishing? MGs because they're small and light? LBXs because they fish while still putting on the hurt?

w8t4u
w8t4u

@DeathDog
http://mwo.smurfy-net.de/equipment#weapon_heatscale
Gives you the actual numbers too, for what that's worth to you. Some ghost heat penalties are so small they can be ignored, while others will MURDER you.
@Emberburn
MGs if you've got a bunch of spare ballistics to boat them, otherwise large caliber LBXs on ballistic-focused builds or even MRMs.

Inmate
Inmate

Is there a lore reason behind why heat is such an overwhelming problem in MW universe?
Firing a cannon three times shouldn't make you go supernova.

Sharpcharm
Sharpcharm

@Inmate
Single heatsinks if you're talking tabletop. That being said an AC/20 is only 7 heat on TT so even a 10 SHS mech can handle just an AC/20.
Why, how much heat are you really generating per shot with an AC/20?

askme
askme

@Inmate
Because in tabletop you can fire a weapon nce per turn, and a turn lasts 10 seconds. In MWO you can fire most weapons 3 or more times in 10 seconds, so heat is more of an issue. Heat is part of balancing things.

Need_TLC
Need_TLC

@Inmate
The energy weapons you're packing are pretty inefficient (especially IS) and making beams that can vaporize a literal ton of armor in one go. The ballistics are firing massive shells in armored sleeves. The heat's gotta go somewhere

Firespawn
Firespawn

@Sharpcharm
@askme
I don't mean crunch-wise, I mean raw fluff. We have big guns in real life that can fire pretty continuously. A GAU-8 mounted on an A-10, for example, will run out of ammo long before it overheats and has enough ammo for about 20 seconds of continuous burst on full load. WW2 battleship cannons were limited by how fast you could load the shells into them. Even then, overheating mostly shortens the overall lifespan of a weapon, it doesn't make it suddenly explode and kill you.

TurtleCat
TurtleCat

@Firespawn
Ah, my bad. All I could find with a quick search was 'Heat sinks, while sharing names with real world passive radiators found in computers, are actually complete heat pumps, not "true" heat sinks in the engineering sense [1][2]. They serve as a BattleMech's means of protecting itself from internal damage caused by heat, as most 'Mechs' weapons easily cause enough heat to fry the machine's own electronics or melt its synthetic muscles, the myomers that make 'Mechs possible.' from Sarna, referenceing Battletech tech readout and the BTech compendium.

Sounds like a reason thought up after the game rules was made to give reason for the game mechanic.

Fuzzy_Logic
Fuzzy_Logic

@Firespawn
MG barrels melt and warp if you fire them too long, it's why stuff like the MG-42 has an easily accessible barrel for hotswapping. The GAU-8 has the advantage of being cooled by air rushing past it at hundreds of miles per hour.
A hot enough barrel could prematurely detonate a shell inside of it.
But, finally, the way heat works in this game is not that it gets concentrated in a weapon until the barrel warps and detonates ammunition in it (although ammo CAN cook off in tabletop from a mech being too hot) it's that all the heat is sucked into the central body of a mech and diffused throughout. Over time it radiates off/is soaked up by the heatsinks, but if you accumulate too much heat it starts to cause internal structure damage as your mech literally melts itself from the inside.

RavySnake
RavySnake

@Fuzzy_Logic
Tfw we'll never get inferno missiles that cook-off if you overload your mech

Methshot
Methshot

@RavySnake
Too hard for PGI to code. I think you can roll crits when you take internal damage from overheating (don't quote me on this) so technically you should be able to cook off your MG ammo and kill yourself by overheating.
I don't think I've ever managed to, though.

Illusionz
Illusionz

@Methshot
I think overheating only does engine crits but I'm not 100% on that. Also, I don't think it's a matter of coding, it's a matter of design. TT heat management is much more defined; you can easily decide how much heat to gain/lose per round. MWO's heat continuum would be full of bad feels if you kept cooking off by firing a few frames too early so they just make you shutdown

TalkBomber
TalkBomber

@Illusionz
It's a matter of coding. If PGI implemented Inferno SRMs, do you know how they'd do it? They'd introduce three new launchers to the game- Inferno SRM2, Inferno SRM4 and Inferno SRM6. These would fire Inferno SRM Ammo and nothing else. So you'd have mechs that have very little or even NO damage potential carrying a bunch of Inferno SRM launchers, rather than the ideal of firing 24 Infernos to shut someone down and then switching ammo and firing a volley of 24 SRMs to kill them. Instead you'd fire 12 Infernos and 12 SRMs, and once they shut down you'd have 12SRM of damage and not 24SRM of damage.

VisualMaster
VisualMaster

@TalkBomber
Ah, I forgot the lack of ammo switching (RIP LBX slugs and Clusters). However, you're mixing up what I was objecting to e.g. cooking-off ammo in a TT fashion, not Infernos.

FastChef
FastChef

@farquit

Yeah. Smurfy has a chart showing which weapons are linked up, how much heat they'll generate if you go past the GH limit, etc. If not listed, there's no spookyheat.

http://mwo.smurfy-net.de/equipment#weapon_heatscale

Raving_Cute
Raving_Cute

@Inmate
Realtime heat loads versus 1 check/10 seconds in tabletop.

Solaris VII rules, which have 2.5 second turns are MUCH more of a bitch about overheating. Tabletop doesn't have anything that literally melts the 'Mech like MWO does, although it has ammo explosions (cookoff, basically) and equipment/pilot damage at extreme (past auto-shutdown) levels.

AwesomeTucker
AwesomeTucker

@RavySnake

Ammo used to detonate at 80% or so overheat, actually. It was considered so unfair, they removed it and eventually went to the system we have today- in part because we use so much more ammo than TT builds do.

Two tons of ammo for an AC/5 is often considered excessive in TT, and MG ammo is considered a risk as even 6-8 firing at once would have trouble going through a single half-ton of ammo.

Methnerd
Methnerd

@VisualMaster
They'd just handle it so that if you override and do a heat check for internal damage, you fucking detonate. If you shutdown from overheating, your Inferno ammo doesn't explode. Nice and simple.

King_Martha
King_Martha

@TalkBomber

There's similar issues in TT- which is why there's a hard limit on how much external heat you can take in a given turn (it's 15, or in MWO terms 1.5/second).

You'd probably have to give Inferno SRMs a heat-over-time effect, where each SRM hit would generate X amount of external heat for Y number of seconds, and figure flamer effects into it as well. Of course, that'd also be something enough DHS could overwhelm, unlike the usual heat-stunner effects flamer builds get.

Ignoramus
Ignoramus

when your team is nothing but blood-lusting MG boats

Harmless_Venom
Harmless_Venom

@Ignoramus
Even the Mauler?

hairygrape
hairygrape

@Harmless_Venom
Especially the Mauler

Sharpcharm
Sharpcharm

@hairygrape
How do I build an MG Mauler, anyways?
http://mwo.smurfy-net.de/mechlab#i=326&l=c9bbcd49ce23e4301e2122bead82c1037008eea1

Supergrass
Supergrass

@Sharpcharm
Shame MWO doesn't have MG Arrays for maximum dakka

Dreamworx
Dreamworx

Please stop making these threads. Thank you in advance.

CouchChiller
CouchChiller

@Sharpcharm
http://mwo.smurfy-net.de/mechlab#i=326&l=330675be7794579b63efbf6d0ddee934e01ad997

Flameblow
Flameblow

@Supergrass
The big reason for arrays was putting all the MGs into one spot. Not much call for that given MWOs targeting. They'd never let it break hard point restrictions with multiple MGs per.

Emberburn
Emberburn

@Ignoramus
Now sit down, and face the fact that clans need to receive a buff for scouting.

Illusionz
Illusionz

@Emberburn
Bushwackers are slow and short-ranged. Bring a fast light or medium with erML/HLL and you can kite them all day. Be sure to go for bushie legs, they are easy to hit

Gigastrength
Gigastrength

@Emberburn
clans
buff

Burnblaze
Burnblaze

@Illusionz
Bushwackers are slow
Nigger what size engines do you run?

viagrandad
viagrandad

havent played MWO for like 2 years
trying it out again
all this stuff thats different but has only been made more confusing instead of streamlined
modules no longer exist
could just plug in whatever modules you want for stats boosts to your mech
easy as fuck to understand and use
no, no, no, we need massive SKILL TREES instead of modules!
all my mechs that had stuff maxed out are now blank and have to use the huge skill tree
was given like 250,000 XP or something that I cant figure out what to do with
we have new post clam invasion tech thats cool I guess
item descriptions STILL dont explain fucking anything to you like how an XL engine will explode if the side torso housing it gets exploded
stealth armor, how does this even work in game
ECM is now super close range only I guess
game textures and maps are still ugly as fuck
literally everything is made of greebles on new maps
physically hurts me to look at
fire my old as fuck medium lasers past a corner and they still hit an invisible terrain hitbox
fire my NARC at en enemy mech standing still and it doesnt register
running around with my ECM on behind cover and still getting targeted by LRMs despite my little ECM eyeball thing telling me my ECM is still active

farquit
farquit

@Burnblaze
That little ~95kph BSW won't catch a 130kph IFR

FastChef
FastChef

@viagrandad

I just did the same.

My Atlas DC is shit.

And I can never get into short range anymore either because everyone is boring snipers.

PackManBrainlure
PackManBrainlure

@viagrandad

Skill tree = build your own quirks. Of all the new shit, it's probably the easiest to understand. Many of your robots will already have historical (legacy) skill points they can put into a chassis and unlock nodes- max of 91 nodes. Unlike before, you pick which. Use this to learn.

https://kitlaan.gitlab.io/mwoskill/

ECM works better with skill nodes. Sensor tree. You are not immune to LRMs with ECM as long as someone's close enough to actually get past the ECM effect (and since you didn't skill it up, that's doesn't need to be very close), but fully skilled ECM is still the Cloak Of Skill.

Or someone popped a UAV over your head and is just using it to lurm you to death. Remember to look up.

Stealth armor is basically ECM +1. As long as it's on, you don't cool down normally, but also don't show up on heat vision. You no longer have a red square show up to unfriendlies, but are treated like you're in a hostile ECM field yourself (so you don't see most sensor data, but friendly pilots will still know you're there and a blue). You can shut down stealth mode to cool down, but it'll trigger a ten second cooldown before allowing a restart.

@FastChef

The average speed has gone up (even more so now that IS robots can use LFE engines for more speed at same weight without XL side-death, LFE takes both sides to die), so Atlas builds tended to evolve with it. Have fun with the new toys.

http://mwo.smurfy-net.de/mechlab#i=17&l=9bb9dd0c4fb74efd665e2eb933b2631426322bc2

iluvmen
iluvmen

there are people in this general who've spent their entire adult lives playing minimally viable robot games.

Harmless_Venom
Harmless_Venom

light PPC, PPC, ER PPC, Heavy PPC and Snub Nose PPC all look exactly the same

Dreamworx
Dreamworx

Is there any reason to use a standard engine at all now with light engines around?

farquit
farquit

@Dreamworx
HEAVY GOOS

cum2soon
cum2soon

@Dreamworx
Heavy Gauss, LB20 or multiple big MRMs or UACs in a ST.

RumChicken
RumChicken

equipping 5 light PPCs in a side torso always makes the 5th one be a laser square instead of a PPC tube

PIG quality.

idontknow
idontknow

@PackManBrainlure

srm ac atlas build

I miss my old MW4 build with two ppc, a light gauss, and a large laser. It was the shit.

Spazyfool
Spazyfool

@Emberburn

reeee muh clams aren't totally retarded OP in firepower to insta gib IS, i might actually HAVE to play the game!!! REEEE how dare they have any part of the game approaching some kind of parity! UGH!!!

HA HA HA! NO.

Garbage Can Lid
Garbage Can Lid

@Fuzzy_Logic

we will never get a MW / bt game where heat build up starts to degrade mech performance and weapon performance as things start to get hot and claggy

we will never get a MW or BT game where locational dmg is an actual thing other than 'armour' so you will necver be able to wreck hips and shoulders to fuck legs and arms without having to destroy the limb totally first.

we will never get a MW / BT game where auto cannon fire anything other than HE, where you can use lasers to properly warm a section of armour plate, then punch through to crit specific components inside with effects other than 'destroyed' such as jamming, blocking, shattered, slagged, melted, cracked actuators, blown mechanical engines driving reload mechanisms etc.

Spamalot
Spamalot

@Spazyfool
muh medium mechs with 60-70 tonner mech survivability
what? IS has won every single scouting event thus far? FUCK CLAMS! NERF CLAMS! BUFF IS!

Seriously though, clans should have the stormcrow back.

girlDog
girlDog

@Inmate
because in MW and bt you're cooking off a laser in the UV, or xray + range, nd the shit that generates that much energy is BOUND to be 'highly energetic' bt lasers are far closer to what we'd call a plasma weapon. any laser that high energy that humans could conceivably make, would only be that way with the aid of a stupidly reactive plasma i'm talking thermonuclear fire.
and then a PPC is even worse because that's a directly excited particle stream, instead of a stimulated wave you're effecting, you're make a short lived solid particle beam. lightning bolts occuring in nature are capable of cooking whatever they hit with thousands of degrees celcius thermal transfer (when the molecules it transfers all that energy to loses the excess energy to return to 'rest' the energy is given off as infrared radiation.)

in MW and BT games, AC's have always been nerf'd to hell, because the book versions and fluff always function just like or modern ac's. that is rapid fire auto loading HEAT firing cannon. hell, even a fucking abrams has a RoF on it's main cannon to make even a MWO ac 2 look fucking braindead slow. (mwo ac2 rof is crap anyhoo since that's equivalent of a 40 mm wwII ac shooting mere HE.)

you ever seen a bushmaster AC turret rip through supposedly 'hardened' emplacements?

shoot a solid heavy noble metal slug at target, punching through the armour like it wasn't even there
reload in a poofteenth of a second and send a HE shell through the exact same hole controlled to detonate inside the target

fucking brutal.

SomethingNew
SomethingNew

@askme
any brawler build is FUN as, if you play with a group so you can all force the brawl together

because potatoes are so retarded they almost all refuse to play anything other than long recycle range builds that they still suck so hard with.

kizzmybutt
kizzmybutt

@Spamalot

is meds with heavy survivability
clams with heavy firepower

this is balanced

clams always completely ignoring zellbringen BS and always going 4 v1

maybe if you weren't fucking shitlords and played your fucking faction the pig would let you be as OP as you're supposed to be In faction play.

but even then you'd complain like little bitches about how your pound for pound 3x better mechs are outnumbered 3:1 by IS.

GO fuck yourself clam shitter. you faggots will always be tryhards.

Methnerd
Methnerd

@farquit
this. clams are retarded. when they're on gather, they REFUSE to actual play the objective, and run around in their zippy lights getting the data.

Lord_Tryzalot
Lord_Tryzalot

@Garbage Can Lid
in MW3 the radar and all the HUD was buzzy after first heat buildup
basically buzzy all the game
wanting that shit
No, go fuck yourself.

Fried_Sushi
Fried_Sushi

try K2 kitty with dual heavy PPCs, 2 medicine lasers and 2 heavy MGs, 17 dubs
feels like the PPCs dont even put a dent in things

Emberburn
Emberburn

@King_Martha
Lao Hu, Argus, Turkina, Gesu (130kph Inferno SRM16 + 8 HMG and 360 torso)

Evilember
Evilember

@Snarelure
LBX40 Hunch2C is unironically the best Clan Scouting setup, not even Pakhet competes

BunnyJinx
BunnyJinx

every other mech is a light boating machine guns.

Need_TLC
Need_TLC

@kizzmybutt
play zellbringer
play one versus one in a team oriented mode
"hurr just play clans like they did in lore, go challenge on guy and end up getting ganked by all of them!"
PGI gives IS mechs obscene leves of survivability quirks while new tech enables them to have clan levels of firepower and often greater mobility to boot
clans are so heavily stacked against in one game mode that even casual players on one side dominate the game mode during every faction play event
clans should just roleplay and accept getting ganked 3 to 1!

Okay, you have to be some retarded australian shitposter. No way are you really this stupid.

Please go back to working and paying through your deformed abbo nose to support your new soulless chink and shitskin mozlem masters. You're not wanted here.

Techpill
Techpill

@Lord_Tryzalot

YES, electronics work slower and slower, and machinery works less well, the hotter it is.

myomer, being mechanical musculature that contracts or relaxes as electricity is passed through it SHOULD become less and less efective as it heats up.

for that matter all the HEAT management in the game works far too well. when something IRL gets hot, heatsinks do 'cool' it, but the thing itself is still hot and warm.your GPU's heatsinks don't keep it at 5 degrees or anything, it simply stops it from getting up to 100+ a gpu under load, working its ass off, is still gonna be HOT. same thing with IRL mechanical gear.

you see them concrete cutters and shit? they have a fucking water jet the shits a stream of water onto the blade as it works, and ALL that does is stop the thing from getting so hot it doesn't seize and destroy the tool. they're still HOT as fuck to use.

Ignoramus
Ignoramus

@Need_TLC
merilard posting everyone merilard.

are you angry that everyone else on the planet calls american prime time "farming hours" you're so shit at the game?

also,
REEE i want my clams to be as OP as i want them to be without any corresponding check to balance them!!!

guess what faggot, if you were any good, and piggy gave you what you want, you SHOULD be able to 1v4 an IS lance.

Sir_Gallonhead
Sir_Gallonhead

@Harmless_Venom
Snubs look different on some robots, just not all of them. Depends on how old they are, generally. Grab a Locust 1V or whatever with the CT Energy hardpoint, and put a Snub Nose PPC in there. It'll display as a fucking LASER BOX because it was impossible to fit a PPC in the CT before the snub nose was introduced, and they haven't gotten around to modelling in a PPC skin for it.

Playboyize
Playboyize

@RumChicken
Oh yeah, that too. Like I said, there are so many fucking hardpoints that they just haven't modeled yet because it was literally physically impossible to fit a PPC in there at 3 crits and that's changed now that we have 2 crit PPCs. Ah, progress and not future-proofing your shit because your Position At The Time was no Lights/Snubs.

ZeroReborn
ZeroReborn

@Harmless_Venom
ends of the barrels of light PPC, PPC, ER PPC, Heavy PPC and Snub Nose PPC all look exactly the same

don't thank me for correcting you, lad

LuckyDusty
LuckyDusty

Remember- Position At The Time
Truly I was a prophet on par with the great Vassago Rain when I first shitposted this, saying "there'll be heavy lasers" and lo and behold there are.

BunnyJinx
BunnyJinx

@Emberburn
Argus
why?
I remember it being horrible unter-heavy

New_Cliche
New_Cliche

@Emberburn
gesu is already in. it's called the 'crab'

viagrandad
viagrandad

I got a Warhammer and a Hunch IIC, what should Mr. #3 be? I'm leaning towards Bushwhacker just because I love that little bastard

whereismyname
whereismyname

@viagrandad
if you're new, NO, you want four mechs from the same side, so you can go do scouting with your 50/55t. and fill out your drop deck to go factioning for great CBILLS with a fp DD.

SniperWish
SniperWish

turn off hud
fps goes from 20 to 40

Garbage Can Lid
Garbage Can Lid

@New_Cliche
can't boat machine guns
can't boat SRMs
crappy torso twist
No, it's not in.

Methnerd
Methnerd

@SniperWish
hud off
H O W ?
O
W
?

Fuzzy_Logic
Fuzzy_Logic

@BunnyJinx
Good shield arm like Lao Hu.

Nude_Bikergirl
Nude_Bikergirl

@Garbage Can Lid
360 torso is a meme, so no, cant get it on anything other than Urbie.

LuckyDusty
LuckyDusty

@Nude_Bikergirl
Mechs like Raven and Thor specifically designed to 360 twist
a meme

Playboyize
Playboyize

@LuckyDusty
I told ya, cant have it.
Mad Dog is here too

askme
askme

@viagrandad
so, double hunchIIC or double huntsman or hunch+hunt?
also what huntsman, they're a lot different?

Lord_Tryzalot
Lord_Tryzalot

@Methnerd
F7

GoogleCat
GoogleCat

@askme
Diversify.

Lunatick
Lunatick

I wondered with this timeline (we civil war now) is so strict.
Then it hit me - HAGs are about to be introduced, but no, clans cant have too much dakka, so we are YEAR 3062 - 3067.
I predict another powercreep in a year or so.

w8t4u
w8t4u

@Lunatick
For the life of me, I can't understand why in the hell they didn't introduce Comstar as a faction, so that we could have the SLDF during the Invasion and Wobbies and Fochtstar during the soon to be Jihad. Would sell more damn cosmetics, allow for more events, and you'd have an excuse for some other mechs to be in the game (not that that stopped them from putting lots of damn traditionally Comstar stuff ingame anyway, but yeah).

Flameblow
Flameblow

@w8t4u
why
Because piggy.
Just look at the CW /or how its called now/ map.

I remember someone wrote a cool concept about clan invasion that COULD be done - sudden attack of OP clan mechs during PUG match, salvage to the winner, and everybody playing CW on IS side protecting, then creating clan mechs via salvage, etc.
Fish just cant into cool stuff.

MPmaster
MPmaster

@Lunatick
Now sit down, and face the fact that clans need to receive a buff for scouting.

TalkBomber
TalkBomber

@Gigastrength

I want an urbanmech.

How do I fit one?

askme
askme

@MPmaster
WHAT?
My GPU died, i had to sit on iGPU (intel) and having 10-20fps guess what i did on the event?
I did Huntsman clan scout drops with 6-streak6 build.
And this was E A S Y.
I do think IS is overqurcked and balance must be done via three lances VS two star, but no, dot think clans need a buff right now.

DeathDog
DeathDog

@MPmaster
look mommy i posted it again
if i keep posting it theyll think im right, eventually, if i have to post it 24 hours a day

Stark_Naked
Stark_Naked

@Garbage Can Lid
the GESU is the fucking Crab. that's what mech it fucking is. fucking retarde kuritafag poster.

MPmaster
MPmaster

@Playboyize
@Nude_Bikergirl
@LuckyDusty

imagine if the 360 or even the much wider twisting mechs actually GOT their twist instead of the 90 ish degree from centreline.

reee nerf torso twist.

running away keeping enemy mechs at range running 81 kph in a MDD whilst pouring on the fire.

viagrandad
viagrandad

@MPmaster

reeeeeeeeee

whatever, test tube shitter

likme
likme

@TalkBomber
all of them can do a fairly trolly 90 kph + sniper build with a std 170? 2 JJ, minimum DHS and 2 ERLL in the ONE torso, letting you use the opposite ARM armour and structure, Torso armour and structure, as an assault level Glacis.
you then use modern tank manouvre and cavalry tactics, (dat 360 torso) to always keep your enemy at range, nuking them with coring laser strikes in vulnerable commponents, and using the glacis to tank and shots you cannot dodge.

you go full speed backwards because you point your legs that way whilst your main gun is always focused downrange on the target.

this makes you an epic level troll that entire teams of potatoes will reee about and chase the squirrel.

you're also not that bad in a brawl, See: the match i took out an MDD and a crit lynx 2 v1 whilst capping on conquest.

PurpleCharger
PurpleCharger

@TalkBomber

troll urbie

http://mwo.smurfy-net.de/mechlab#i=548&l=29379e0713c2c32448b2827ef646d6e4435a54fa

LESS insane but still pretty trolly

http://mwo.smurfy-net.de/mechlab#i=548&l=fcd075ebbf2f41e3e84bcb24408f18eb1852b7eb

Carnalpleasure
Carnalpleasure

WoB Jihad soon!

farquit
farquit

Omega when?

TechHater
TechHater

@Carnalpleasure
Not soon enough brother! The time to purge the Inner Sphere of old men is long overdue!

Nude_Bikergirl
Nude_Bikergirl

This thread is so fucking cringe, I fucking miss when it wasn't full of unironic retards.

StrangeWizard
StrangeWizard

@Nude_Bikergirl
What are you talking about?
This general has ALWAYS been full of unironic retards.

whereismyname
whereismyname

@StrangeWizard
not being unironic avant-garde post-honk grunge ironic bohemian retard
hue
sometimes I forget just what kind of little babbys inhabit this general

LuckyDusty
LuckyDusty

Marauder IIC or Madcat 2 for assaults?

Dreamworx
Dreamworx

@LuckyDusty
Yes. Both are good. Mraucer IIC with 9MPL is a helluva lot of fun. MC2 has a lot of good things too, plus it can Scorch better than the Scorch.

Supergrass
Supergrass

@Dreamworx
Why not 6MPL/2LPL?
Also is the UAC spam kitty build still good?

Spazyfool
Spazyfool

Is it that time again?

When your assaults (3) do single digit damage because they spent the first few minutes staring at each other and talk about how cool the Mad Cat Two looks

Not noticing enemy machine gun koshi's (3) getting close and destroy their asses

Skullbone
Skullbone

Why are there so many machine gun assaults?

viagrandad
viagrandad

@Skullbone
MG event and potatoes playing a big mech to last a little.

Personally I'm enjoying this by boating LRMs and i's like everyone forgot how to avoid taking damage from them during this event. It's glorious.

StrangeWizard
StrangeWizard

@farquit
Just get a King Crab.

Methshot
Methshot

days 2-5 are up.

https://mwomercs.com/events/75

Snarelure
Snarelure

Are there any good 100tonners other than the Annihilator right now?

TechHater
TechHater

@Snarelure
My Atlas' do a lot of things I enjoy. What are you looking for in a 100 tonner?

eGremlin
eGremlin

@TechHater
Viability.
It seems like a lot if the lighter assaults are just better. Marauder IIC, Madcat 2, ect.

PackManBrainlure
PackManBrainlure

@eGremlin
I won't deny that sentiment. I prefer my Cyclops to my Atlas any day or the week. Same with the Maraucer IIC and MadCat 2 and Maulers to name a few I enjoy more. Of the 100s though, I do love my Kaiju.

VisualMaster
VisualMaster

@PackManBrainlure
I have both unavailable Atlas variats and I can't use either. It's sad.

likme
likme

Please stop making these threads. Thank you in advance.

BinaryMan
BinaryMan

@likme
No. Fuck you.

JunkTop
JunkTop

How do I build an Enforcer lads

Requirements:
Must go kinda fast
Must have an AC10 or UAC10
Must be relatively well armored

I wanna brawl

Snarelure
Snarelure

@Snarelure
ANH is the only good 100 tonner right now. the rest need mobility buffs badly

Crazy_Nice
Crazy_Nice

@JunkTop
Must be relatively well armored

too bad. all the enfos get structure quirks only.

Skullbone
Skullbone

@Crazy_Nice
well, by that I mean, can take a beating. Or is the enforcer just not meant to be tanky

Techpill
Techpill

@Skullbone
It's not meant to be tanky you dumb shit.

PackManBrainlure
PackManBrainlure

@Skullbone
if you want a tanky ac10 mech the treb 7k is unironically the mech you want

Evilember
Evilember

@Techpill
rip brawling

fuck shit mek

BunnyJinx
BunnyJinx

@Evilember
Only brawler worth a shit now is the ANH.

Booteefool
Booteefool

500 machine gun damage for IS
500 machine gun damage for Clan
well there goes my k/d for this season

JunkTop
JunkTop

@girlDog
even a fucking abrams has a RoF on it's main cannon to make even a MWO ac 2 look fucking braindead slow. (mwo ac2 rof is crap anyhoo since that's equivalent of a 40 mm wwII ac shooting mere HE.)

Base level rules ignore ROF completely, as at the least an AC/2 can rip off a burst every 2 seconds or so.

Nojokur
Nojokur

@Emberburn
Gesu sadly was never canonized, so it's MW4 only.

Methnerd
Methnerd

@Methshot

2-7. I own one IS robot. Looks like the Centurion freebie gets a workout.

Sir_Gallonhead
Sir_Gallonhead

What the fuck is this thread right now? Fucking winterfags, ruin everything, I swear.

Back to my space ninja LARP farming game

cum2soon
cum2soon

@Sir_Gallonhead
Go masturbate to valk's ass.

Burnblaze
Burnblaze

@cum2soon
tfw Haruko has no ass to masturbate to

formaed_tigrisprime_to_head.jpg

CouchChiller
CouchChiller

@Carnalpleasure
Jesus, what a shitshow that will be if PGI ever gets to that era.

inb4 >implying MWO will live past 2018/2019

Flameblow
Flameblow

tfw you realize the Fafnir will be shit

Stark_Naked
Stark_Naked

do 500 damage with MGs
48 minutes remaining
Eh how hard could it be
build 8MG MLX-G
shoot memeguns for like two minutes
die horrifically as soon as someone shoots me
damage done 29

Firespawn
Firespawn

@Stark_Naked
git gud

StonedTime
StonedTime

@Stark_Naked
does less damage than his 'girlfriend' has years of age

you will NEVER become a konglord

Supergrass
Supergrass

@StonedTime
But I did more than 0 damage

Inmate
Inmate

@Supergrass
you sick fuck

Supergrass
Supergrass

@Supergrass
user, I...

StrangeWizard
StrangeWizard

Why does everyone prefer endo over ferro? I mean, yeah extra weight savings is great and all, but does ferro not increase the effectiveness of your armor? Or am I misunderstanding the description?

likme
likme

@StrangeWizard
I thought the benefit of IS ferro (at least in the table top) was only 12% more, which you can beat with the weight savings of endo. Now Clan FF was 20%, so that has a bit of use.

Deadlyinx
Deadlyinx

Is there a point to the Atlas anymore now that the Annihilator exists?

Bidwell
Bidwell

Terran Hegemony when?

StrangeWizard
StrangeWizard

Rate my Atlas

DeathDog
DeathDog

why is brawling just so fun

idontknow
idontknow

@StrangeWizard
@Crazy_Nice
it's a fucking atlas
0/10

cum2soon
cum2soon

@idontknow
fuck you die the Atlas looks amazing

SomethingNew
SomethingNew

@StrangeWizard

I don't think it benefits enough currently, yes on the previous games it was academic, throw on the clan FF.

Raving_Cute
Raving_Cute

whats objectively the best build right now

Ignoramus
Ignoramus

@Raving_Cute
hellbringer heavy laser vomit

Boy_vs_Girl
Boy_vs_Girl

@cum2soon
But it's shit.

Raving_Cute
Raving_Cute

late night amerifat pity bamp

Burnblaze
Burnblaze

@StrangeWizard
Yes, but how it works is that it decreases how much armor is needed to make a point worth of armor. 36 points of Standard armor offer the same protection as 36 points of Ferro, it's just that 36 points of Ferro weights less. You cannot add more than the maximum by switching to Ferro, and Ferro armor cannot soak more damage than Standard armor. A point is a point. The only armor that offers an actual increase in protection is Hardened Armor (Reflective/Reactive armor also offers specific damage reductions) which weights twice as much as Standard armor but offers twice the protection. So going back to the first example, 36 points of Hardened Armor would weight as much as and provide as much protection as 72 points of Standard armor- the appeal is that you can't mount 72 points of Standard because the armor limit is 36 points in this example.

Methnerd
Methnerd

So just to check, is shooting a destroyed side torso better than shooting an armored CT? or will the damage transfer to the CT all the same?

TechHater
TechHater

@Methnerd
Shooting a destroyed ST is WORSE than shooting an armored CT- this is what deadside shielding is.
When you shoot a destroyed CT, 50% of the damage transfers to the armor (or structure, if you've stripped all the armor) and the other 50% is lost to the void. Avoid shooting a destroyed ST under virtually all circumstances.

iluvmen
iluvmen

@TechHater
Ah, I figured there might be a penalty. Im still not a 100% on all the finer parts of MWO

Spazyfool
Spazyfool

I wish my founder's atlas or AS7-S(l) were useful...

eGremlin
eGremlin

@Spazyfool
I?

Stupidasole
Stupidasole

decide I can probably duel with the single light that capped Sigma
didn't pay enough attention to how quickly it capped
as I round the corner I get swarmed by FOUR light mechs, the entire Alpha lance
nice

Booteefool
Booteefool

If you vote for Alpine Peaks unironically neck yourself.

Stupidasole
Stupidasole

@Booteefool
I save my multipliers for Polar Escort.

cum2soon
cum2soon

@Stupidasole
@Booteefool

I got my multipliers up to x6

Too scared to use them because I haven't seen it that high before.

hairygrape
hairygrape

@Spazyfool

Because speed is so important, 100 tonners suffer a lot. They're huge and they take the most investment to get up to speed, AND unlike the Anni, they can't boat effectively either.

Slow, generalist robots suffer badly. The Atlas at this point is suffering. It doesn't help that it gets structure quirks om some models (like the S) rather than armor quirks, which just mean it ends up stripped and useless faster. But here. Have some nutech Atlai.

http://mwo.smurfy-net.de/mechlab#i=241&l=0b4dadb3500c77cd27c8d8bd1c13cd8bdab8ea30

Lasers plus you can burp up four RL 20s at whatever inevitably gets in front of you and you won't die till you're cored through and through, since you have shitty structure quirkage on your Atlas-S.

http://mwo.smurfy-net.de/mechlab#i=241&l=c747d2457a84eaf460c1546821b55f27bcaacda8

Fewer rockets, more wub.

http://mwo.smurfy-net.de/mechlab#i=16&l=f2b2e90b3e061bb3e33a326a61734b1ddfa4e3ee

Spew shells and missiles in your -D and hope things generally keep their heads down from all the scary explosions, because you're going to spread damage like hot butter on a griddle.

Stupidasole
Stupidasole

@Booteefool

I vote for Alpine, because it's generally sweet revenge for all the times I suffer through Mining or Crimson.

you have never sent a lance of your enemy sliding down the high mountains, burning limbs in their wake as your team casually executes them from above

happy_sad
happy_sad

@Stupidasole
your team stalls on the other side of the corner
"Need assistance!"
"Center torso critical damage"
YOU HAVE BEEN DESTROYED

Evil_kitten
Evil_kitten

@cum2soon
Vote for Terra Therma or Caustic and watch the energy boats burn.

Playboyize
Playboyize

@Booteefool
If you vote for Terra Therma unironically neck yourself.

DeathDog
DeathDog

@Playboyize

Terra Therma is a lot more fun than the super-centralized old version, and I have more fun there than Caustic.

Firespawn
Firespawn

Is it just me or is the Ebon Jaguar REALLY fucking clunky and unwieldy? I feel like I'm piloting an Atlas here, the thing takes forever to move anywhere.

DeathDog
DeathDog

@Firespawn
Just you

Lunatick
Lunatick

@Ignoramus
4 ERLL?

MPmaster
MPmaster

@Lunatick
2HLLs and 4ERMLs

MPmaster
MPmaster

@MPmaster
it's boring imo
also you'll need to forfeit HBR prime quirks to put in omnipods with enough hardpoints, right?

King_Martha
King_Martha

retarded lights (two of them did literally 0 damage) can't even spot the fucking enemy capping our base so that our LRM boats can tickle them and stop the cap
LOL NOTHING ANYONE COULD HAVE DONE ABOUT IT
fucking hate SEAniggers

idontknow
idontknow

@Firespawn
Just you. Gotta get used to that Clan Standard™ 81kmph

iluvmen
iluvmen

@MPmaster
It is boring, effective but boring as fuck. And yes, you have to mix and match the torsos and head.

Sir_Gallonhead
Sir_Gallonhead

@idontknow
The Hellbringer is like twice as mobile as the Ebon Jag despite moving the same speed, though.

Firespawn
Firespawn

getting swarmed
I know I'm the frontline but this is fucking absurd
entire enemy team envelops me and kills me, thought I was actually pretty far back for the map
MY TEAM HAS BARELY LEFT THE FUCKING DROP POINT AND IS SITTING IN A CHOKEPOINT (NOT IN THE GOOD WAY, AS IN THEY ARE LINED UP IN A GATEWAY FOR THE ENEMY TO FOCUS)
HOLY FUCK
I FUCKING HATE THESE PEOPLE

TurtleCat
TurtleCat

Ruskie start spewing Russian into his mic
type "cyka blyat" into chat
he shuts up
wew

New_Cliche
New_Cliche

me and four allies capturing enemy base
25% done
enemy starts to capture ours
we are going way faster, no worries
enemy light rolls up
hes pretty fucked up, if we just sit on the base we will down him in an alpha or two
all four guys abandon base capture to chase down this single light
capture speed slows to a crawl
we end up losing

WHAT THE FUCK IS WRONG WITH YOU PEOPLE?!

Inmate
Inmate

@New_Cliche
chase the squirrel, chase it now.

RumChicken
RumChicken

@New_Cliche
That feel when you see the whole enemy team on front of you

But half your team including your assaults start to chase that one enemy cicada that is poking the team in the ass with large lasers

eGremlin
eGremlin

@Firespawn
ignore the radar and battlegrid
get swarmed
WOOOW HOW WAS I SUPPOSED TO KNOW
BUGGED TEAMPLAY MECHANICS

takes2long
takes2long

@eGremlin
The map is NASCAR 90% of the time and all of a sudden my team decided to literally do nothing the entire match. Completely unpredictable.

Evilember
Evilember

@takes2long
Is that how Assault players think? I mostly play supporty mechs so following friendly assaults/deathball is a priority to me.

Carnalpleasure
Carnalpleasure

@takes2long
What map

Methnerd
Methnerd

@Gigastrength
I never understood the meaning behind the tiny words on pic related until this post, OP. Thank you.

Harmless_Venom
Harmless_Venom

@Carnalpleasure
I NEED HAG IN MY LIFE.
Even if it'll be shite like the one in MWLL.

CodeBuns
CodeBuns

@Carnalpleasure
God I wish, but they're gonna keep dragging out the clam invasion until they release MW5 at the very least.

ZeroReborn
ZeroReborn

@Booteefool
t. angry shitter who can't build a mech properly
m-m-muh brawling

Get lit up by my erlls dumb shitter

Carnalpleasure
Carnalpleasure

@ZeroReborn
poke enemy
die
team on other side of map
:^)

askme
askme

@eGremlin
The "Loyalty" version.

Spazyfool
Spazyfool

@Spazyfool
AS7-S
not good

git gud.

HGauss, 4x ERML, 4x SRM6. Use Hgauss and SRM6's when up close, ERML + HGauss when you want to poke shit at 300-400 meters.

Also it's not a founders atlas. it's a loyalty version.

Founders atlas was the AS7-D.

Supergrass
Supergrass

@Spazyfool
I'm aware. I have both the AS7-D(f) and the AS7-S(l).

King_Martha
King_Martha

@Spazyfool
Laser Vomit Marader IIC, Dakka Madcat Mk2, and Dakka Annihilator are all vastly superior to that shit.

Lunatick
Lunatick

MWO end of life announced when?

TreeEater
TreeEater

@Lunatick
In my ass, shove it in there and really reach around for it.
Yeah, deeper, come on, try harder. You want it don't you?

Ignoramus
Ignoramus

@Spazyfool
That's an interesting Atlas S, but I think Hgauas works better on the Atlas K. On my Atlas S I run 1 AC20 with 4 SRM+A for the ultimate brawl machine.

The Atlas K gets armor quirks and gauss quirks so it works really well with the Hgauss but its 1 missile hardpoint forces you to use an MRM40.

Methnerd
Methnerd

Gray Death with nothing but a H. Gauss

Methnerd
Methnerd

@TreeEater

I will only consent to such lewd acts of homosexual tendencies with Haruko.

Gigastrength
Gigastrength

BUFF TIMBER WOLF NOW

WebTool
WebTool

@Gigastrength
awoo timberyiff scouting buff sit down

Evilember
Evilember

can't crit share the HGauss into the CT to run an LFE or even an XL
fucking PGI
http://mwo.smurfy-net.de/mechlab#i=56&l=4998695e07c49f9c520327259bdadddcaf315d6c

eGremlin
eGremlin

@Gigastrength
"No." t: Chris the balance chimpanzee

Literally said timber wolf was still "one of the top performing 75 tonners" in yesterdays interview.

Also said that assassin, particularly the ASN-21, is going to get nerfed because its taking the role of the JR7-O and the Javelins away from those lights.

VisualMaster
VisualMaster

@eGremlin
Isn't that the same guy who said the Atlas was still the top performing assault?

Raving_Cute
Raving_Cute

@eGremlin
Buff the Oxide, it's not pay2win enough for me right now and it needs to go back to the glory days. I'm thinking add another two points to all of the structure quirks and honestly probably give it like 5CT/RT/LT armor and 7 LL/RL armor. That should give it the endurance it needs.

RavySnake
RavySnake

@Methnerd

Had a Shaq like that last night, non hero

FastChef
FastChef

nice

Nude_Bikergirl
Nude_Bikergirl

rice

PackManBrainlure
PackManBrainlure

I wish I wasn't a furry.

askme
askme

@PackManBrainlure
I wish you weren't here at all.

Harmless_Venom
Harmless_Venom

@askme
But mechs are cool.

Playboyize
Playboyize

@PackManBrainlure
Is that you, Connor? Or is that Beakie? Icegryphon? God, who else? Fuck old kong had too many goddamn furries.

Firespawn
Firespawn

@Playboyize
Not Kong. I'm actually a scaley for lizard/dragon bitches, but people don't distinguish here.

idontknow
idontknow

@Firespawn
tfw no Dragon gf
not a furry btw

Ignoramus
Ignoramus

@Firespawn
Oh, so Rancor. Alright well sod off.

BinaryMan
BinaryMan

@Ignoramus
Not Rancor either. I've never knowingly played with any people here.

PurpleCharger
PurpleCharger

@BinaryMan
Well you're a furry so you'd probably be bullied in mumble anyway.

Poker_Star
Poker_Star

Which mentally ill individuals keep voting Polar Escort right now? It's coming up really frequently.

LuckyDusty
LuckyDusty

Do ballistic cooldowns do anything for RACs? Also you guys lied to me about the number being DPS, RAC/5 has slightly less than 11 DPS and /2 slightly less than 6.

Playboyize
Playboyize

@LuckyDusty
LMAO

SomethingNew
SomethingNew

@PurpleCharger
don't sound like a furry
don't look like a furry
don't act like a furry
can't help that I want to fuck lizard bitches
You would likely never know.

idontknow
idontknow

@Playboyize
Please respond

SniperWish
SniperWish

@LuckyDusty
No, you're fucking retarded.
It has about 10 DPS, which is fucking massive, but they're hot as shit, and jam like a mother fucker.
Get ya heat generation nodes senpai.

WebTool
WebTool

@eGremlin
The faggot works at home and appears to be the only guy handling balance. Fucking whatever. PGI is satisfied with constant blanket laser & 'overperforming' mech nerfs as evidence he's doing his job.
This game has no future, but we knew that. It's just more evidence of the declining shitshow.

Sharpcharm
Sharpcharm

@SniperWish
No, you're fucking retarded.
For expecting a ballistic weapon to work with ballistic quirks? Or for not looking up the DPS numbers instead of asking here? If you're talking about the second, you're right. If you're talking about the first one... I guess?

w8t4u
w8t4u

@SomethingNew
i wan't to suck cock and fuck dudes
i'm not gay tho

lamao

Inmate
Inmate

@w8t4u
I'm not gay.
I want to fuck lizard bitches.
Doesn't mean I let it define who I am or how I interact with people.

Snarelure
Snarelure

@LuckyDusty
It's damage per shot you mouthbreather, not damage per second. All autocannons are measured by how much damage each shell does when it impacts. So while an RAC5 is technically doing 5 per shot, it fires them at a rate of about 2 every second, which is why it's such an effective weapon.

Carnalpleasure
Carnalpleasure

@WebTool
As cherry on top, the fat neckbearded faggot was such a gigantic beta he actually seems to have bought a fucking asian ladyboy to be his "wife."

Literally a subhuman canuck cuck.

Nude_Bikergirl
Nude_Bikergirl

@Snarelure
That makes some sense.

BlogWobbles
BlogWobbles

@Inmate
I'm not gay.
Yeah you're an insane furshitter.

Harmless_Venom
Harmless_Venom

@Carnalpleasure
proofs?

girlDog
girlDog

@Carnalpleasure
ywn earn your wage by balancing giant robots in a video game and buy a cute ladyboy wife
fuck this goy earth

Sharpcharm
Sharpcharm

This is why Kong lost MRBC

Fried_Sushi
Fried_Sushi

@Harmless_Venom
Here's proofs. Straight out of that nigger asshole gargling fecal matter connoisseur Zoeff's mechcon 2017 album.

Techpill
Techpill

@Fried_Sushi
hesus dos christo

5mileys
5mileys

@Fried_Sushi
His apparent lack of neck concerns me more.

Burnblaze
Burnblaze

CUTE FISH!

Playboyize
Playboyize

@idontknow
kys

happy_sad
happy_sad

@Playboyize
I kyss you too! *smack*!

Burnblaze
Burnblaze

@happy_sad
kys

whereismyname
whereismyname

@idontknow

Guy in back: This still isn't enough alcohol to deal with this shit, get the an heroin.

Nojokur
Nojokur

@Burnblaze
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

Need_TLC
Need_TLC

@whereismyname
zomg ebin so funni!

Skullbone
Skullbone

@Need_TLC
Get back to sucking your "wifes" dick, Chris. You're clearly more interested in androgynous subhumans with webbed hands and feet than you are in mechwarrior.

ZeroReborn
ZeroReborn

@Burnblaze
Rotary machineguns in lore
Regular MGs in MWO

TreeEater
TreeEater

@Skullbone
THAT'S why she looked so familiar to me! She's Combo Beaver and Platypus Woman! Coming soon to /co/.

Carnalpleasure
Carnalpleasure

@Skullbone
It's not like sucking kathoey dick will fix your awful sense of humor. Keep your shitty dadmemes in your facebook.

Fuzzy_Logic
Fuzzy_Logic

tfw my average match score dropped from 400 to 396 because of the mg event
suffering

Evil_kitten
Evil_kitten

@farquit
What am I looking at?

eGremlin
eGremlin

@Evil_kitten
teamwork

Spazyfool
Spazyfool

Please stop making these threads. Thank you in advance.

TurtleCat
TurtleCat

@Spazyfool
makes this post every day
Please stop making this posts. Thank you in advance.

Poker_Star
Poker_Star

@Spazyfool
I think you are getting the reverse effect, or are using reverse psychology. I don't know which.

SomethingNew
SomethingNew

bamp

New_Cliche
New_Cliche

@Poker_Star
I don't know how to feel about seeing OC I made a long while ago being butchered
glad to know someone liked it though

Poker_Star
Poker_Star

@New_Cliche
Yeah, it's cool. I was just irritating the dumbass with the Please-whatever-spank-me posts.

AwesomeTucker
AwesomeTucker

Sleepy Mad Cat thread.

kizzmybutt
kizzmybutt

Stupid XL engines costing as much as an entire light mech. I want to go fast but my mom won't let me

SniperGod
SniperGod

@kizzmybutt
Well yeah, you're buying a fusion reactor. Save up your pennies, you'll have enough eventually. Also, if you're putting it into an IS mech be careful. Some can get away with it, but for many an XL is a huge liability.

Crazy_Nice
Crazy_Nice

@SniperGod
XXL engines? YAY?!

Fuzzy_Logic
Fuzzy_Logic

bampu

Bidwell
Bidwell

bump?
because fu, that's why!

ZeroReborn
ZeroReborn

Newfag here with more MWO questions
How important is ECM?
Is there a site that explains exactly what each weapon does and is for? I've seen the spreadsheets in mechlab/in-game but I still don't know what the practical difference is between a laser, pulse laser, an ER laser, or what the difference is between small/medium/large is.
How do you sell a mech? How many c-bills do you get for selling a mech? Do you keep all the parts/weapons you bought? Can you even sell parts/weapons?
thank you

Evil_kitten
Evil_kitten

VTOLs when? I want to be fast and widdle

Crazy_Nice
Crazy_Nice

@iluvmen
he doesnt want a walking gunbote
its like you hate fun or something

Gigastrength
Gigastrength

are flamers viable

@ZeroReborn
it's not,
there isn't but it should be obvious what their trade offs are
laser, small better damage per heat, shittier range, less burn time - better for brawlshit
medium generic overall good at most 10/10
ER more range more heat, pulse less burn time, less face time, more damage in shorter range

Emberburn
Emberburn

@ZeroReborn
ECM (when fully skill-tree'd for) makes you real sneaky, like basically on top of the dude to get spotted.
The different laser flavors all basically act the same but with different heat and range profiles. Keep it on the enemy the whole time to do all your damage. Check OP for mech builder site and scroll up a bit to read about ghostheat

Harmless_Venom
Harmless_Venom

@ZeroReborn
the practical difference is between a laser, pulse laser, an ER laser, or what the difference is between small/medium/large is.

basically small lasers of any type are going to be low damage, low tonnage and low range. mediums and larges are progressively bigger.
Pulse lasers are hotter but have a shorter burn time which means they technically do more dps. they are hotter and have shorter range but are much better for close range fighting.

ER lasers simply have Extended Range at the expense of being hotter and having longer burn time. clan versions do more damage than IS ones but they also have incredibly long burn times.

clans also get micro lasers which are even wimpier than smalls, they also get heavy lasers which are higher damage, hotter and longer burning than their standard counterparts.

generally speaking small lasers of any type are fairly situational and usually are only carried on really small mechs or mechs that have a bunch of energy hardpoints like the nova or gargoyle.

all your assets can be viewed from the 'inventory' tab, and can be sold there as well. its usually advisable to not sell mechs since you're doing it at quite a loss but if you honestly hate the thing theres no point in keeping it.

also as a sidenote, autocannons act the opposite from lasers. the bigger the gun, the shorter the range will be.

Harmless_Venom
Harmless_Venom

@Gigastrength
@Emberburn
@Harmless_Venom
I get the general idea because the names are self-explanatory, but I'm talking in practical terms.
For example, how many medium lasers do I need to blast into an Annihilator's 18-armor cockpit to kill him? How about small or large? How does range or the amount of armor affect that?
I guess what I more mean is that I have no clue what "10 damage" means, or if 10 damage from a medium laser is the same as 10 damage from a pulse laser or autocannon or missile.

Stupidasole
Stupidasole

@Harmless_Venom
10 damage is 10 damage retard

lasers will deal their listed damage if you are within optimum range, anything beyond their optimum range reduces their damage appropriately

you also need to burn your laser for the whole duration onto the part to get the full damage, so they're garbage if you can't aim for shit

iluvmen
iluvmen

@ZeroReborn
Some people here will give you meme answers, or flat out insult you:

ECM isn't terribly important, but it can help. It'll make you harder to target with missile locks, reduces the range you can be detected in somewhat, and it also extends onto nearby allies+jams sensors of enemies that are too close. If you have an Inner Sphere mech, you can apply Stealth Armor to any mech with ECM on it too, though stealth builds can be tricky

While it technically isn't MWO, go to Sarna dot net for information on all things Mechwarrior/Battletech. It'll give you explanations on any kind of weaponry, tech, equipment, and even mechs that you'll run into in game. Sarna's information is based off fluff and tabletop game stats, but they generally hold true in game as well.

You sell it through the Inventory tab on the main garage window. Mechs sell for quite a bit less than full price, even with the engine, but it can be a decent way to free up garage space and get some quick cash. You keep all weapons, equipment, engines, etc you take off your mechs, and can sell those too. The only thing you can't resell is ammo.

StonedTime
StonedTime

@Stupidasole
Wew, sorry for assuming this game had dynamic resistances or that weapons had different effectiveness depending on things like armor state.

CouchChiller
CouchChiller

@StonedTime
well it doesn't, faggot

Techpill
Techpill

@Harmless_Venom

all damage is relative. your medium laser will take 5 points of damage away from that ANH's cockpit. meaning he will have like 16 or so armor leftover.

armor in this game is simply a second health bar. structural health is the one that matters when it runs out because it means that section of the mech is destroyed. also once you are into structural hp, damage can cause critical hits (which frankly i dont know how they work) that can blow up equipment within that section of the mech.

Boy_vs_Girl
Boy_vs_Girl

@Harmless_Venom
For reference:
Lasers do the damage listed as long as you have the laser on the target for the full burn time. Any spread or time the laser isn't on target is lost damage. So while it can be a bit difficult to keep a laser pin-point on a part to do a full burn, you can sweep it across a mech to spread the damage, or hit fast targets (i.e. a light's legs)

Missiles do damage per shot. LRM missiles do 1 damage per missile and SRMs do 2 each. LRMs and SRMs have no optimal range, and do full damage per warhead within their maximum range. Inner Sphere LRMs must be fired at a distance of 181m or further, as they require 180m to 'prime'. Clan LRMs can be fired within 180m, but deal less damage the closer they are. SRMs have no minimum range. ATMs are different, in that they deal 3 damage within their closest range-band, 2 in their middle band, and 1 in their furthest band, and have a 120m minimum range. This makes them deadly between 120-270m, decent from 270-500, and are inefficient beyond that.

Autocannons, gauss rifles, and PPC weapons do full damage per-shot. I.e. a gauss round will do full 15 points of damage to whatever part it hits. ACs and Gauss weapons fire a single shell that does direct damage, Ultra ACs fire a burst of rounds that do the total amount of damage, LBX ACs fire a shotgun blast that does the total amount of damage spread out.

Lasers and ballistic weapons do incrementally less damage if fired beyond their optimal range. This range is listed in every weapon's profile. You can fire beyond the optimal range, but you will do proportionally less damage up until the weapon's maximum range. This is particularly important with autocannons, since they are ammo dependent and you want to avoid wasting rounds. You cannot deal damage beyond maximum range.

Spamalot
Spamalot

@Techpill
Crits are just that, a chance spike in damage to internal structures. Crits can also cause damage to weapons and equipment, if any, in those parts. In particular, ammunition and gauss rifles can explode if they're hit by a crit. This is why ammo explosions can rip off parts if they get hit with an unlucky crit, or if enough is piled into a single spot can blow a mech up. IS mechs can add a CASE to either side torso to prevent ammo explosion damage from affecting other parts (only within those parts tho, it won't help if you store ammo in a leg and that goes off). Clan mechs have CASE as standard.

Certain weapons are also more likely to cause crits, such as machineguns and LBX autocannons.

w8t4u
w8t4u

@StonedTime
Also see this @TechHater

Dreamworx
Dreamworx

@Techpill

Structure does mean things start getting damaged along with the structure if it gets damaged, and MGs are VERY good at this in most flavors.

It's why lights often shred damaged targets so fast, as lots of brrrrrt delete exposed sections and they're good at getting in close/behind to hit openings.

happy_sad
happy_sad

@Dreamworx

its also why structure quirks are fucking meaningless. theres no point in having 100+ structure when all your guns get blown up in the 10 points of damage.

likme
likme

Also, not all damage is equal, simply due to ease of focus. LRMs will scatter hits all over a target, while the same weight in lasers will put most of it's damage into one (hopefully crippling/lethal) spot if you can keep the crosshairs on it, and PPCs/ACs/Gauss will dump full, instant damage on the spot hit.

BlogWobbles
BlogWobbles

buy biggest MRM launcher
fire it at guy
feels like Im doing fucking nothing to them

CodeBuns
CodeBuns

@BlogWobbles

you're doing 40 points of very evenly spread

TreeEater
TreeEater

@CodeBuns
evenly spread butter

VisualMaster
VisualMaster

@BlogWobbles
40 1dmg rockets that launch in a stream within a cone of fire

Well yeah. Missiles in general are inaccurate as fuck, and are better for sandblasting people. Either get right up on top of people and blow your load into them, or use it to shave off large amounts of damage in a general area. If you want high damage in a smaller area, stick to lasers or ballistics.

AwesomeTucker
AwesomeTucker

Which mech would help me pick up chicks?

Methshot
Methshot

@AwesomeTucker
Vindicator because it shows that you like to eat ass.

Deadlyinx
Deadlyinx

@Gigastrength

play the fuck out of MW4
was even in the top clan in the VL league at one point
Atlas was my favorite mech
underestimated in MW4, everyone else preferred the Dire Wolf
could dominate with the thing
try out the Atlas in MWO
it is absolute shit

I am disgusted.

Playboyize
Playboyize

@Deadlyinx
It used to be really fun. Back in '12-13. It hit a brick wall after the clans came out.

RavySnake
RavySnake

@Deadlyinx
It's like it's a completely different game in a completely different game genre from a completely different game company with completely different people working on it or something.

Emberburn
Emberburn

@Deadlyinx

the atlas is fine its just not "lol i win cause im an atlas" like it used to be. you cant just facehug another assault and expect to win. The atlas has the most armor out of any mech in the game the problem is that 'tanky assaults' aren't tanky anymore because of power creep. mechs like the ANH and madcat IIC can spit out simply obscene amounts of pinpoint damage not to mention ever since the skill-tree cbill refund a good portion of the playerbase is filthy rich and don't mind using 2 cool-shots a game just so they can win a 1v1 fight.

askme
askme

@Emberburn
atlas has most armor

No it doesn't. That's the annihilator.

Atlas has the most structure, but structure is worthless now because of component health reductions and crit chance increases.

askme
askme

@askme

some atlases get armor instead of structure. also the ANH has to deal with the fact that the top half of its mech must be completely exposed before shooting and that its also slow as fuck.

SniperGod
SniperGod

@Dreamworx
Compact engines when? I want to put an AC/5 on the Pirates Bane

Fuzzy_Logic
Fuzzy_Logic

@SniperGod
Light Autocannons when?

lostmypassword
lostmypassword

@SniperGod
@Fuzzy_Logic
MWOv2

Soft_member
Soft_member

@Techpill
"Heatsinks" in Battletech and Mechwarrior are more akin to liquid cooling than an actual heatsink. http://www.sarna.net/wiki/Heat_Sink

hairygrape
hairygrape

@askme
@Emberburn
@RavySnake
@Playboyize
@Deadlyinx
@askme

Atlas a shit.

Deal with it.

Atlas mk2 when?

Spamalot
Spamalot

get one victory in QP
Lol, this is going to be impossible.

BunnyJinx
BunnyJinx

@Spamalot

What is the reward? Not home to check.

Ignoramus
Ignoramus

@BunnyJinx

100 MC and a cockpit item.

whereismyname
whereismyname

@BunnyJinx
Dish Warhorn and 100 MC

Evilember
Evilember

get swarmed by enemy lights
FUCK
hit one with my dual Gauss
it dies
manage to traverse on the other, smack him
he dies
third one jumpjetting backwards away from me
rev up my rifles a third time, smack his exposed CT and kill him
feeling good, warhorn just keeps going off as I rack up kill after kill
Cyclops that is mostly fresh drops down on me
fuck
duel him, his close range firepower is just too much and I can't do him in
Ah well. A win's a win.

King_Martha
King_Martha

Kodiak or Annihilator for dakka 100ton?

hairygrape
hairygrape

@King_Martha

Atlas.

Sir_Gallonhead
Sir_Gallonhead

Best medium IS SRM boat? Need something for the upcoming challenge.

Raving_Cute
Raving_Cute

@King_Martha
Kodiak will have higher mounts and go faster because of Clantech.
Anni will look better and more than likely survive longer.

lostmypassword
lostmypassword

I just wanna do Daishi hoodshit

Ignoramus
Ignoramus

when messing around with Mechwarrior 2's assets in Unity/Blender is more fun than trying to get "free" stuff in MWO
I think I know why horko did what she did

expect MW2 obj. files (maybe) to be thrown around (maybe) in (maybe) 60 to 90 days

Sharpcharm
Sharpcharm

@Ignoramus
MW2
lol fag

takes2long
takes2long

Shout out to my main man Whispers, we go way back

Nude_Bikergirl
Nude_Bikergirl

Why do i am interested in incoming pig-mech?
Because i want to fuck with smurfy and try to build quad-ams build that isnt C O M P L E T E shit.

TalkBomber
TalkBomber

@Nude_Bikergirl
Now sit down, and face the fact that clans need to receive a buff for scouting.

AwesomeTucker
AwesomeTucker

Man, getting LRM'd in the open in a slowboy makes me want to put a gun in my mouth

BinaryMan
BinaryMan

baaaamp

Carnalpleasure
Carnalpleasure

@AwesomeTucker
this is why you don't play fatboys

Evil_kitten
Evil_kitten

@Carnalpleasure
Wasn't even a fatboy, just a newboy who can't afford all the shiny XLs I need

Need_TLC
Need_TLC

@Evil_kitten
tfw you have 26 mechs and 24 of them don't have an engine currently installed

hairygrape
hairygrape

Run into a RAC/5 Direwolf
Everything hurt

Snarelure
Snarelure

enemy team pushes one by fucking one into us as we pick them apart
every time

w8t4u
w8t4u

off in a corner by myself peeing baddies
all of a sudden fall over dead
had full frontal armor, wtf?
ally shot me in the back
it was a 1 hit kill

...fuck

haveahappyday
haveahappyday

kill after kill after kill
the feed is dominated by my name
6 kills
I AM A GOD

AwesomeTucker
AwesomeTucker

back up
air strike hits me not once but twice and leaves my light nearly completely destroyed
good to know that you might as well literally stand still and take less damage

w8t4u
w8t4u

@AwesomeTucker
Not getting at least one LAMS on every your mech after Civil War update.
You can kys

Bidwell
Bidwell

Sorry for the stupid question, but how do you get the Osiris and Nightstar? I see them listed in Mechlab and supposedly they were added in months ago with the Civil War update, but I don't see them in the shop at all, not even under bundles. Am I blind or is there some secret to them?

Emberfire
Emberfire

@Bidwell
pay up goy

website only mech packs

MPmaster
MPmaster

@hairygrape
DWF
RAC/5
WAT?

lostmypassword
lostmypassword

@Emberfire
Oh, I wasn't aware there were things you could buy outside of the game.
Will they eventually be added in for c-bills?

Booteefool
Booteefool

@lostmypassword
Eventually, yes. First they'll be added to the in-game shop for MC and then eventually go on sale for c-bills.

Crazy_Nice
Crazy_Nice

@Booteefool
So like the Mad Cat II, then. How long does that normally take? It looks like these came out back in May or June or something like that in 2017.

eGremlin
eGremlin

@Crazy_Nice
see https://mwomercs.com/forums/topic/257719-mc-and-c-bill-release-date-update-and-price-corrections/

osiris C-bill release date: March 6th
nightstar C-bill release date: April 3rd

haveahappyday
haveahappyday

I want streak-LRMs.
And we actually can have it.
I guess we'll have Jihad-era this year and clans do really get a but with new weaponry - HAGs and S-LRMSs.

Methshot
Methshot

@eGremlin
Oh, that's convenient. Thank you.

ZeroReborn
ZeroReborn

@haveahappyday
streak LRMs
pgi implements them just as clan version of the IS cluster fire basic LRMs with awful fucking spread
can't even put on artemis to reduce spread
pgi are not competent enough to make them home in on specific components like cockpits, a single leg or side torsos

Trash weapon in MWO, to be honest.

whereismyname
whereismyname

@ZeroReborn
B-but you actually HAVE to share armor to use it!
And even with spread - it wont loose damage like regular LRMs hitting ground somewhere near the target.
I cant see why would anyone hate it?
Sure the weapon must have downsides but come on.

TreeEater
TreeEater

alpine peak, skirmish
rush off to a corner of the map hidden and shut down
hope my team will lose the fight
they don't, sadly
end up getting a supply cache for my 0dmg AFK match
I fucking hate Alpine Peak and I didn't even get to teach anyone a fucking lesson.

Ignoramus
Ignoramus

three supply crates in a row
woah
what the

MPmaster
MPmaster

What's the best Dakka assault out there?
I'm getting tired of my laser-vomit Marauder IIC.

Sharpcharm
Sharpcharm

FOURTH supply cache
Man, I must be seeded tonight.

New_Cliche
New_Cliche

@MPmaster
Get the Marauder IIC A with ballistic hardpoints then lol
I run 2UAC5 1UAC10 although it kinda blinds you when you fire.

viagrandad
viagrandad

we tried
No, no you fucking didn't. If you tried I wouldn't be mad. But these teams never actually fucking try.

Raving_Cute
Raving_Cute

@New_Cliche
Any other chassis good for dakka? I'm kinda getting tired of my Marauder in general.

Sir_Gallonhead
Sir_Gallonhead

Fucking nerf LBX10s holy FUCK

Bidwell
Bidwell

join match
Polar Conquest
already know it's going to be shit
THERE IS LITERAL WHO E-CELEB DRAMA IN MY MATCH IN ALL CHAT
LMAO WTF? THE GAME HAS LIKE 150 PLAYERS AT BEST AND THESE OLD MEN ARE ACTUALLY BICKERING ABOUT STREAMS AND DRAMA? AHAHAHAHA.
IT WASN'T EVEN ABOUT B33F EITHER EVEN THOUGH HE"S THE ONLY REMOTELY NOTEWORTHY PERSON IN THE ENTIRE MWO COMMUNITY ***LMFAO***

RavySnake
RavySnake

@Bidwell
Someone announce we are being streamed
Stream shitter only did 55 damage

TurtleCat
TurtleCat

I know I'm late but

AHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHHA
*wheeze*
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHHAHAHAHAHAAAAAAAAA

ZeroReborn
ZeroReborn

worthless meatshields fucking disappear (seriously where the fuck did they rotate to) and I have to deal with the brunt of the enemy team
instantly regret having even bothered pushing forward out of my sniping perch to assist them
someone hits my mech, strips off the rear ST armor and does BARELY ANY FUCKING DAMAGE to my internal structure
ALL THREE autocannons instantly get critted out and I'm a fucking husk
Jesus christ they really need to tone down crits, this shit is retarded.

Nude_Bikergirl
Nude_Bikergirl

@TurtleCat
that huge mass of square shaped pigmounts
lmao

Nojokur
Nojokur

@TurtleCat

Half the mech is made up of lasercubes.

GoogleCat
GoogleCat

@TurtleCat
yet another laserboat
What's so funny?
It's kinda sad really...

Emberburn
Emberburn

@ZeroReborn
Machine guns friendo. It's what they do.

Carnalpleasure
Carnalpleasure

@Emberburn
I'm like, at least 67% sure it was an LBX-10. It probably did about 5 damage after stripping off my rear armor, but I guess 5 pellets is enough to destroy three Ultra Autocannons.

massdebater
massdebater

Are MRM or ATM boats still viable? I never see them anymore.

JunkTop
JunkTop

Why are UAC10s and LBX10s so much better than '20s? I don't get it.

Illusionz
Illusionz

@Need_TLC
tfw 225 mechs
mfw 225 fully equipped and ready
Fuck the skill tree tho, absolute trash.

viagrandad
viagrandad

@w8t4u
Isn't LAMS basically pay2overheat? I guess it's alright if you don't shoot anything while it works.

PurpleCharger
PurpleCharger

@Raving_Cute
Have you tried the free Mauler? It has four UAC/5s.

@Bidwell
I like that guy with the dumb beard who makes stupid build videos, I mostly stole my ATM Mad Dog from him (and one forum post).

SniperGod
SniperGod

@viagrandad
You run it with cold ballistics or missiles.

Ignoramus
Ignoramus

Please stop making these threads. Thank you in advance.

Techpill
Techpill

I know only engine double heatsinks are "true" ones, does that include the heatsinks past 10 that you put in the engine slots?

Emberburn
Emberburn

@Techpill
No, only the inside ones. This is also why you should never go below 250 if you can help it.

Nude_Bikergirl
Nude_Bikergirl

@TurtleCat
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OaTO8_KNcuo

CodeBuns
CodeBuns

@Stark_Naked
Does this look like a 45t Inner Sphere laser boat? No? Because it's not.

iluvmen
iluvmen

@TurtleCat
HAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHA OH NO NO NO NO NO LOOK AT THE MOUNTS HHSHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAH

Gigastrength
Gigastrength

@Sharpcharm
shitting on the best mechwarrior games
u wot

Skullbone
Skullbone

@CodeBuns
45t

Nude_Bikergirl
Nude_Bikergirl

@RavySnake
kys

Carnalpleasure
Carnalpleasure

@Skullbone
Gesu is 45 tons.
Crab is 50 tons.

FastChef
FastChef

@RavySnake
take your ancient stale facebook maymays and go

Sir_Gallonhead
Sir_Gallonhead

@whereismyname
kys

Boy_vs_Girl
Boy_vs_Girl

C'mon man don't drag my Gesu into this, I just want my stompy robot

RumChicken
RumChicken

@PurpleCharger
I like that guy with the dumb beard who makes stupid build videos, I mostly stole my ATM Mad Dog from him (and one forum post).

That is THE B33F. He's great.

Stupidasole
Stupidasole

@RumChicken
No, the other one, MoltenMetal.

Garbage Can Lid
Garbage Can Lid

@Sir_Gallonhead
Assassin 21 for broke hitboxes and speed, the missile cyclops for a retarded amount of SRMs.

farquit
farquit

@Garbage Can Lid
going 90 tons for a Mech that carries a smaller payload than the Pakhet, which is faster, has JJs and is half the size

Poker_Star
Poker_Star

mwo
forum I'm part of has someone post a weird build
they claim it's really good but hard to play effectively
eh, I don't need these 17 million c-bills anyway
drop into my first match without testing it
slowly flank the enemy team
see an Annihilator
core him and kill him in two seconds
rest of the enemy team hasn't noticed me somehow
tear open and destroy a K2 from behind with a single alpha
shred a Mauler before it can turn around
Shadow Hawk gets a shot off at me before he explodes under my guns
rest of their team turns around
take out a Cougar before a fresh Kodiak and a second Annihilator round a corner
they destroy me but I manage to leg a K9 and blow off the Annihilator's arm before I die
game ends 6-12 because my team were idiots that didn't push when I started shredding everyone
the only other kill on my team was someone killing the legged Urbanmech seconds before the game ended (and dying instantly)

anyway, here's the build
http://mwo.smurfy-net.de/mechlab#modified

FastChef
FastChef

@Poker_Star
I think you messed up the link, mate.

Fuzzy_Logic
Fuzzy_Logic

@Poker_Star
Great build

TechHater
TechHater

@FastChef
@Fuzzy_Logic
@Poker_Star
Fuck, my bad.

http://mwo.smurfy-net.de/mechlab#i=238&l=df7018940dfb46d04430988514dadfa0002d8feb

Stupidasole
Stupidasole

@TechHater
A pair of LPLs with some SRM4s backed up by MGs. Huh. I'd like to see it in action before I call BS.

Supergrass
Supergrass

@TechHater
I was thinking about sticking a bunch of MGs on my KGC. However, would the gains from using an LFE 360 not outweigh the losses of replacing Ferro with Light Ferro? Then you can maybe add Artemis to the SRMs, pick SRM6s, more SRM ammo...

King_Martha
King_Martha

@farquit
IS
Pakhet
I know Clanners are retarded, but come on now.

Evil_kitten
Evil_kitten

@Supergrass
Endo >= LFE >>>>> Ferro

whereismyname
whereismyname

@Poker_Star
@TechHater
http://mwo.smurfy-net.de/mechlab#i=238&l=df7018940dfb46d04430988514dadfa0002d8feb

Fried_Sushi
Fried_Sushi

@TechHater
@Evil_kitten
I meant you can do this:

http://mwo.smurfy-net.de/mechlab#i=238&l=0f3dcce2feea274e69049697a5da5c2b7d7cbf98

And have over 7 free tons and 3 free slots.

Could've been originally a pre-LFE build.

Spazyfool
Spazyfool

@Soft_member
the problem being that the stuff BEING COOLED doesn't just cool down back to what it was, materials have a pesky habit of retaining heat no matter HOW good your cooling is, even with supercooled superconductors, the metal shit you're attaching them too is STILL metal shit, that when it GETS HOT, likes to STAY HOT for a LONG time.

also, when METAL shit heats and cools rapidly, it bends and warps too. so a laserboat mech should conceivably do damage to itself from firing and getting really hot 80% and more due to trying to move and crap whilst plates of armour, are flexing and getting malleable.

Supergrass
Supergrass

@Sir_Gallonhead
they're practically the only good AC IS have.

racs are only 'good' because they fill the screen of whoever you're shooting with eye raping fire.

5mileys
5mileys

@GoogleCat
he's laughing at the horribad cancerboxes.

iluvmen
iluvmen

@Stupidasole
Yeah, it seems dumb. I can't really record videos but maybe someone else played this build. The KGC-000 happens to have some quirks that make those weapons pretty good though.

BALLISTIC COOLDOWN: -5.00 % (doesn't matter for machine guns)
ENERGY COOLDOWN: -10.00 %
MISSILE COOLDOWN: -10.00 %

The main plan is to sneak up behind someone and core them instantly. Yes, I'm aware that the King Crab is the opposite of sneaky. If you don't manage to do that, they generally panic because you're a big fucking assault mech chewing their face off. If you strip any armor, they die quickly to your machine guns. If it fails, your team blames you.

This is the skill tree I'm using. The poster didn't provide one so I just threw some shit together. It needs the heat skills to stay cool because it does run hot without them. Everything else is optional. https://kitlaan.gitlab.io/mwoskill/?p=jsonbin1.5a60e3035fd3f954af5cf232#s=Weapons

@Supergrass
Fuck if I know. I just copy builds.

TechHater
TechHater

@Supergrass
22 DPS for less than 22 tons of investment
fits perfectly on the most meta medium in the entire game
only good because of a gimmick and not the massive damage
Nah.

Stark_Naked
Stark_Naked

This is what I use on my KC. Never had any trouble with it.
http://mwo.smurfy-net.de/mechlab#i=238&l=35f20b8aa9cbc4cef1f9f9f5ff4f48eff4626014

CouchChiller
CouchChiller

thread jerking off over King Crab
when the Kodiac is objectively better with the same hard points
Oh lawd...

takes2long
takes2long

@CouchChiller
we're talking about IS, clantard

Emberfire
Emberfire

@takes2long
thinks mech origin types matter
Oh, do you play faction shit?

LuckyDusty
LuckyDusty

@CouchChiller
Kodiak looks like furry Atlas, it's disgusting.

StrangeWizard
StrangeWizard

@LuckyDusty
everything has to be furry
t. closetfurfag

VisualMaster
VisualMaster

@LuckyDusty
Eh?

Lord_Tryzalot
Lord_Tryzalot

New thread...
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