Huh? What the fuck Teen gohan can super dash in and kick himself out of it before I can punish?
Landon Sullivan
>lil edgehan is literally pure shit worse character tier >jobhan is top tier How did this happen?
John Thompson
2H will still beat it, right?
Christian Diaz
>jobgeta is best character in the game >godgeta is awfully mediocre
Joseph Hall
>Teen Gohan >edgy Being really pissed because a robot died, isn't edgy, user
Daniel Diaz
Every character can because super dash is not fucking punishable you retards
Luis Collins
Slaughtering bug children that are scared shitless is edgy. Holding off Cell's death so he can beat him some more is edgy as fuck. Kid Gohan is just like a bullied child who shoots up a school.
Cooper Moore
Reminder that there are retards in this very thread who bought a stick specifically for this game.
Gavin Powell
>Slaughtering bug children that are scared shitless is edgy.
Cell, please.
Caleb Parker
>you'll never be 16th >you'll never have the body of greek god and a fitting jawline >you'll never have sick grabs, huge damage and ability to reverse the entire game in one move >you'll never come out of 21's vagina
Aiden Scott
Im playing Hit/Piccolo/Gohan(A)
But I feel like im missing something
Give me a hint mates
Andrew Butler
You need to replace Hit and Piccolo. Like what the fuck even is your team.
Evan Carter
Nothing wrong with Piccolo and Hit
Nathan King
Characters with good synergy?
Angel Sullivan
>there are unironically people in this very thread who will defend teen gohan and try to convince you he isn't the worst character in the game >they're gonna say some irrelevant shit about bomb loops since that's the only thing he's known for besides eating ass
Daniel Turner
>How dare you play characters you like instead of tierwhoring
Xavier Bennett
What is your team then user?
if its the cookiecutter trio I will just move on
I will never play this shit competitively and I just want to play the characters I like instead of following tier lists and shit like that
Christopher Bennett
piccolo is the worst character. teen gohan is probably 2nd worst with his trex stubby arms. both are playable though. no one is so bad they are trash.
Cooper Jones
>piccolo is the worst character
Noah Johnson
So what are the confirmed bottom five characters? Piccolo, Gotenks, Teen Gohan, and who else?
Maybe Yamcha and Krillin?
Asher Barnes
Last I looked Piccolo was on like 7 out the top 10 teams
Asher Ward
>Piccolo is bad
I want this meme to stop
Leo Moore
>Piccolo is anything above mid-tier-at-best tier almost as bad as the "yamcha is a god" meme
Hudson Moore
I'm finally going to start learning Black. Any advice on how to use him or recommended combos I should try to learn? Also can't decide on a team. I really want to learn Cell too, also Freeza and 18, but I just can't decide... I know that I DON'T want SS Vegeta, SS Goku, Trunks, or any Gohan, since I'm tired of using them and want to branch out.
Logan Nguyen
I think piccolo is good but honestly everyone with them on their teama barely uses them. Its 18 and cell that do work while Piccolo is just there it seems. Streams ive watched at least
Gabriel Sanders
chris g and nakkiel both put him undisputed bottom.
Owen Adams
Give me 3 reasons why piccolo is bad
>Godlike range >Ranged grabs >Decent 1 power energy attack >Standard 3 power attack >Assist good when with distance
Jack Taylor
Worst five so far would be;
1. Nappa 2. Ginyu 3. Yamcha 4. Teen G 5. ... I don't know. It's like a six way tie for fifth worst.
Adrian Bailey
Reminder that if you have more than one saiyan on your team you're garbage
Luke Adams
I have not yet tried Gotenks and Kid Gohan but Yamcha and Krullin are not so weak. Same for Piccolo.
Brayden White
You are right
Everyone should just play goku black
Carson Taylor
>dominate 80% of the game >Opponent literally getting pushed into a corner and getting destroyed >has his last guy >It's EL BLANCO GOHAN with sparking >Lose hard, not even a contest
Nerfs when?
Zachary Thompson
nappa is no where near the bottom 5. neither is ginyu.
Lincoln Gonzalez
Doesn't matter. You don't get remotely accurate tiers from B-tier gatekeepers a week after launch.
Colton Peterson
>punish DBFZ has an attack level system, where H moves beat M, which beat L. Super dashes are considered M moves, so put two and two together. You're not actually punishing the super dash, you're beating it out with a H move. Good buttons will beat SDs too.
>Ginyu >Bad Elucidate, because that's wildly off the mark.
Jason Martin
holy shit my man are you playing on a 3DS?
David Gray
Whatver then. Even better when I body with best boy
Piccolo does not have good range at all. Grabs are nice His lvl 1 is awful for dhc because it is so narrow and low to the ground. His lvl 3 is good. His assist is alright for pressure but loses to pretty much any attack or a dash. It's also very unreliable for combo extensions.
Matthew Roberts
>be me >try to learn black >"oh hey there's a tutorial let's try it" >tutorial #1: mash L for a light autocombo! >tutorial #2: mash M for a medium autocombo! >tutorial #3: mash H for a heavy autocombo! >tutorial #4: 214S for a binding kamehameha! >tutorial #5: 236HS for a holy light grenade ultimate attack! >tutorial #6: LMH! no, seriously, this is tutorial #6... hit three buttons, that's it >tutorial #7: j.H 5L 5M 2M 5S - OK, it taught me something. I can use 2M -> 5S as a setup for other combos I'll learn outside of this shitty tutorial. >tutorial #8: 5H 236M 236HS for... another holy light grenade ultimate attack! WOW! >tutorial #9: 2H H j.LMH 214S 236LM... OK, this one was alright. Easy enough to punish Super Dashers online with. >tutorial #10: 5LMH H j.MS 236LM MH 214LM... OK, this one was pretty decent too. Waste of 5 meters for the damage but it does give me some ideas. So overall maybe only 3 were kind of useful.
Oliver Barnes
so do i get anything for 100% completion in story mode?
James Garcia
Do you not play on low settings? I want the best frame rate I can get, I don't really care about graphics, I just don't want to lose even a single frame if I can help it
Zachary Johnson
you get a pat on the back
Gavin Collins
>lowers his resolution to lowest setting for best frame rate on his toaster >actually ends up playing worse because he cant decipher half the stuff that is going on
Nicholas Nelson
Why do all kid buu players have 20f delays
Xavier Richardson
I didn't know there was a ipad version
Isaiah Butler
i have a decent rig so i can pull 60 frames comfortably not gonna play with everything at max cause i don't wanna take screenshots, at least not yet i mean i understand if you don't have a good rig but damn that's some tough shit
Elijah Davis
>He doesn't play best team
Christopher Perez
Jokes on you I have never lost a teleport battle in 150 games
That's the power of infinite frame rate reactions
Jason Butler
Has anyone done any testing of various graphics options for input lag comparison? I've been playing around with it, I'm just curious.
Elijah Gonzalez
>he doesn't play on the lowest settings possible You're never gonna be pro dude. Only ~streamers~ care about graphics.
Asher Thompson
I'm playing at a rock-solid 60fps on a 5 year old budget rig running all high settings.
Landon Russell
>tfw I want to play Yamcha >But everyone keeps telling me hes shit
Time to refund I guess
Camden Fisher
Those turtorials are not for you.
Hudson Perez
Low synergy.
Grayson Collins
And I run subnautica at 144 fps on high 1920x1080
But why the fuck would I do that in a fighting game that relies on split second decisions
Henry Bennett
shota gohan can't be the worst character because all of his frame data is retarded
literally 80% of his moves are either 0 on block or actively + on block
Andrew Davis
extremely wrong
Chase Flores
>putting an utterly vanilla rekka character into an airdasher with no pushblock
this is one of the single weirdest things in DBFZ. It's not like they don't know any better.
Jaxson Nguyen
>That gif Don't forget your umbrella
Oliver King
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Jayden Richardson
There's no "worst charcter" in this game no matter what namekians on Veeky Forums tell you
Every charcter has his strengths and all can be quite effectively at any rank
Parker Kelly
>There's no "worst charcter" in this game no matter what namekians on Veeky Forums tell you lol whatever you say, Piccolo main.
Angel Cox
no pushblock is a BUFF to someone like yamcha, are you daft?
he's one of a handful of characters that can convert air hits into hard knockdown by just doing buttons -> L special move, so he's actually pretty solid in the air combined with his pretty good buttons
Tyler Flores
Bad dhc paths. Only one good assist.
It's not an awful team but a member swap gets you a lot more
Alexander Young
Don't reply to me you filthy earthling scum
Levi Myers
Dumbass.
Connor Jenkins
>literally 80% of his moves are either 0 on block or actively + on block ? what about compared to goku?
Elijah Murphy
No. You don't get it. The whole point of rekkas is that they are a pressure tool. In a game with pushblock, they let you keep pressure going in situations where normal blockstrings would not.
In DBFZ they're just irrelevant.
Colton Lewis
If your opponent somehow got Gohan to level 7 you probably already lost at that point. Nevermind the fact he has level 3 sparking. He could probably kill you in one touch with just one bar.
Carter Taylor
So who are the DLC characters going to be?
Liam Reed
I love how in the first few days aftet launch, everyone was saying Yamcha was top tier because you could confirm into his level 3.
And then we found out everyone can do that.
Zachary Johnson
>Arcade mode (hard) >beat first three stages handily, third stage was only moderately tougher >4th stage >Buu, Kid Buu, Goku >gauge fills at 10x the speed >AI acquires autistic levels of coordination >attacks do twice as much damage >"UUUUGAH GO GO GO" *screenwide explosion* *swap* *extinction beam* *swap* *kamehameha* *teleports behind u* *Lv3 Super* >You died, is this awesome y/n?
Isaac Hall
Tier list in this game is mostly useless.
Many aren't good enough to squeeze all that advantage in the first place and mechanics are too universal on characters for it to matter for actual damages.
This isn't some zangief vs Akuma level move disparities
Ayden Gray
Hugo vs Sagat
Noah Hill
TURN ON AUTO ACCEPT FOR RANKED MATCHES HOLY FUCK OR STOP AFK WHEN YOUR TRYING TO MATCHMAKE
Parker Phillips
I swear the top level AI on hard arcade mode can just 100-0 you with a single level 3.
Samuel Flores
Valle styled so hard that evo.
Ian Bailey
the ai isn't even that smart, the problem is that it builds meter like crazy and uses a lot of level 3s that do 80% damage
Wyatt Wood
So I decided on using Black with 18. I'm going with a "fuck you, Torankusu" team theme. Black nuked his timeline and the androids terrorized it for years. Who should be #3 on my team?
Jack Brown
>Bad dhc paths. everything combos into everything else, and all three of them have spam friendly supers that can DHC into something safe. What are you talking about?
>Only one good assist. I assume you mean kid buu? 21 assist is great. fireball assists are generally better at keeping pressure going than beams (which are more about instantly eating up space) and since it trades with beams it's automatically a high tier assist. on top of that it's a fast single hit that only lifts them up a little bit, making it great for combos
lastly people are sleeping on fat buu assist (and the character in general, really). it's another fast single hit that's good for combos (even better because this one actually has quite a bit of hitstun, you have enough time after landing this assist to jump up and land snapback for example) but it also eats up a lot of space while blowing up superdashes.
every character can use the other two's asssists for the main stuff they want assists for (21 using it to combo after her dive or to set up combos into power drain, majin using it to combo after cartwheel or to set up fat throw resets, kid buu using it after his air grab to save meter, ect ect)
the only real failing is that they lack an automatic "I control this space now" from fullscreen function, but the characters themselves have a bunch of those.
Dominic Moore
>finally getting reflect as a main part of your game So much pressure is so easily negated by reflect, it's ridiculous
Everyone is doing fake as fuck blockstrings into things like 6M or doing 2H homing dash and all of it gets stopped and punished by reflect.
Kayden Johnson
tell me how iron fist used his rekkas to keep pressure going in the face of pushblock
Nolan Powell
Fighting Hit is the worst since I'm too much of a brainlet to understand what's going on. >teleport dashes across the screen >scared and hold block in the corner since I don't know how to deal with this character who was ripped straight from xeno2 meta >he command grabs me while his hands are still in his pockets >instant confirm into level 1 >instant dhc into level 1 >instant dhc into level 3 >damage boost is so high that my assist characters die why
William Cooper
Just jump and you neutralize over half of Hit's pressure.
Nolan Young
Hit/Piccolo/A.Gohan guy here
I swapped Piccolo for tien and im liking this so far
Daniel Campbell
Hit has a command grab?
Isaiah Wood
SS Vegeta or Cell
Adrian Howard
This
Hit ground pressure might be godly, but put him in the air and he loses all his teleporting gimmick apart from specials
He is talking about his his RB 1 energy attack
Anthony Roberts
Oh shit, Cell is a great choice. He killed Trunks twice after all.
Thanks, user.
Logan Russell
We're talking about VANILLA rekkas Which is why I said, "VANILLA rekka character"
It's obviously different for characters that get mixups and other toys built in.
But Yamcha doesn't really have very much of that going on.
Jayden Rogers
Vegeta for being a shit/absent father
Gavin Harris
Man, maybe A.Gohan is too honest but as I come up against tougher opponents he's been less and less useful despite his excellent normals.
It's to the point where as soon as I see a good opportunity I either DHC or tag combo into Yamcha to start the dirty stuff, because Yamcha is far more likely to take apart the opponent than Gohan.
lvl3 Sparking Vegeta is...well...he's lvl 3 Sparking Vegeta, fuck you I got a hit say goodbye to your character
Are there any characters that really work as just straight batteries? Giving Yamcha more meter to work with would make his kills quicker
Cameron Bell
how does a character with several seperate ways his rekkas can go into a crossup not have built in mixups?
how many times are you gonna move the goalposts?
Nicholas Roberts
Yeah it's fullscreen, mid screen, and upclose. It hits anywhere on the fucking screen really. He freezes the floor and when it touches you it "grabs" you. You can't block it.
Gabriel Fisher
That's a funny way of spelling Goku (Of being an absent dad)
Angel Hughes
Until 17 is release as DLC, probably Cell. Just because Cell killed him to go back in time.
Matthew Robinson
>Are there any characters that really work as just straight batteries? android 21, solar flare gives you almost half a bar just by itself and she can also eat stuff using barrier
her combos work in a way where you can generally replace meter with assists outside of taking two powers in one combo