This guy makes everyone mad and now I'm starting to consider him because I can't get a 3rd person down.
Jason Perez
how do i play the gay furries team (black/hit/16)
Hudson Stewart
He'll improve pretty much any team
Levi Ward
friendly reminder that vegeta assist should only be used during combos/when they're already blocking, otherwise the other person can just deflect/call trunks assist on reaction to the big vegeta face and blow you up
I finished up the last of the cast and have started updating and optimizing anything out of date. Random tech and videos on setplay/oki and blockstrings are being added as well.
Xavier Richardson
who would be the most aesthetic pick for a third on a trunks/black team?
Adrian Bennett
Watch the gay furry play them and take notes
Jayden Carter
only makes sub-orange players mad
Cooper Brown
16 is the one that makes orange players mad
David James
SSGSS Vegeta
Alexander Phillips
I was trying SSB Goku as a 3rd, but I don't like his tackle and his teleport seems a bit slow and I have a feeling I'll be eating 2H. A shame because I like his divekick, and his command grab and his lvl 3 look cool.
Michael Perry
exactly
Cooper Anderson
I noticed that pretty much every Trunks player pairs him with at least one Vegeta. Myself included
Chase Stewart
nobody should ever play this character
Blake Brown
I know Teen Gohan is a meme but are there any players / resources out there showing his potential in the corner? I'm used to getting 5k+ BNBs mid screen via Bomb Loops but I'm struggling to get decent damage in the corner while keeping a HK at the end.
Angel Green
Beerus is hella scary if people know how to play him. Think he's A tier?
Adrian Rodriguez
>Cell gets a hit confirm on me >Go on a 15s combo roller coaster
Now I remember why I hate anime fighters
Brayden King
I know the early Japanese tier list has him A tier and Sonicfox has him upper A floating around an S for what his opinion is worth.
He's really well rounded with the 1 caveat that he's a little worse than people though he was initially since his Orbs can be Reflected / Super Dashed through.
Nicholas Sanders
>15 seconds Combos drop after 10 seconds
Austin Lewis
Do really absurd things like that near infinite loop that cell is capable of ever get nerfed in these games? Or do you just have to deal with it and get better?
Mason Rivera
Why do some Ring Party things have red names?
Jaxson Sanchez
Cell's loop isn't infinite. He can do it twice. Maybe his damage will be nerfed since with that or a mid-screen assist combo he can do almost 5000 easily, but the combo itself isn't the issue.
Andrew Anderson
Did you know HIT is a bootyeater?!
Brandon Roberts
>implying thats much better
Shits lame, no ones impressed you memorized some combo that anyone can easily do after a bit of training mode.
John Martinez
Oh okay
Josiah Turner
I presume you're talking about his corner loop? You kind of just have to get used to it - though really broken stuff tends to be toned down eventually. At any rate a really long winded combo is not explicitly better than another - the key points are damage, if it combos into a super / UHC, and if it ends you in a HK state for OKI.
You can also always remind yourself that really long combos are actually forced to end at some point - as the tech window gets bigger and bigger and eventually combos just drop automatically.
William Campbell
Why are you a fucking light green then? Do you know anything about fighting games? Holy fuck Im losing CI just by reading you.
Nolan Long
>Orbs can be Reflected / Super Dashed through Yes but on the other hand if the opponent is just going to try and superdash through, they can eat a 2H. Good Beerus players won't just throw balls out and not look to bait a dash.
Eli Cox
Beerus is filthy. He only gets a pass because you need a brain to use him.
Joseph Ortiz
Oh of course not - it's just that initially the community thought Beerus was S tier minimum but once the flaws in his orb system became apparent he's settled down into a middling place with most of the cast outside the upper tiers (Cell, 16, A Gohan, Black etc.) and lower tiers (Ginyu, Krillin, Nappa, probably T Gohan etc.)
Ryan Mitchell
I treat Dragon Ball Super like a less interesting Dragon Ball GT, because it definitely is. Super feels really, really desperate at times. GT may have fucked up pretty much everything they tried to do, but at least they didn't go a spree of full-on character assassination for nostalgia wank.
Levi Davis
Orbs should stay on block. I think that would be balanced. Having them unable to be dashed through would be too potent and everyone would use him just to combat superdash meta.
Christopher Flores
removing or at least dramatically increasing the time limit on stray orbs probably wouldn't hurt either
Jack Anderson
That's an interesting concept, though it may make his 6 orb summon a little overwhelming in a corner pressure situation, maybe if they had 2 ticks on block before disappearing? Idk.
Michael White
Where can I find beerus bnb's?
Isaac Scott
Can confirm
Cooper Cooper
youtube or sonicfox earlier matches
Easton Brooks
The practice room
Jack White
why is goku black so good?
Liam Kelly
He doesn't even seem that good. Just easy to use and no glaring weaknesses
Sebastian Price
good assist
Sebastian Taylor
is it me or is ssgoku better than black? I really don't see all the hoopla around black, all his shit is easy to punish
Jacob Gray
how long until he is nerfed?
Christian Roberts
never if arcsys can make their own decisions instead of listening to noobs' knee jerk reactions
He is good, he's just one of those characters with a whole bunch of shit going for them.
In fact, he'd probably be average if not above average with his normals alone seeing how stupid shit like his 2H is, but he's also got a bunch of other shit too.
Has a beam + beam assist which fits on almost any team, a level 1 super that hits anywhere on screen for DHCs and then his various IT moves for options and corner pressure.
Eli Price
Is dark green better then light green?
Zachary Scott
Not to mention his dive kick and his dash special
Liam Morgan
>mfw a month after release >people still think black is OP
Austin Rogers
No. Light greens are supposed to be better
Brody Russell
>Black shills still trying to downplay a legitimately powerful and well-rounded character who has tools most of the cast would kill for.
You'd think Black players would have a little pride that their character is considered good and fits on any team given how much of a pompous dickhead Black himself is.
Benjamin Thomas
Nah he’s perfect. Those are fags that think everyone that plays black spams 2H and that’s it. Some kid buu player literally said that. He said he had weak normals and is only good for his beam assist and heavy. We also call people that think that saibaman
Sebastian Perry
powerful and well-rounded =/= op i agree that he's solid and fits in many teams but he's not overpowered
Henry Flores
>play high tier >beat high tier ??????
Luke Reyes
Is Kid Buu still considered degenerate?
Connor Roberts
Kid Buu is a degenerate unga.
John Morgan
So at what point can you safely call yourself decent? I've been struggling since the higher end of the Frieza Clan but I've kept climbing steadily.
Henry Morgan
He's not all that bad, people just hate having to deal with his tracking low starters any anything 4+ frame delay.
Luis Diaz
try getting triple your points first
Josiah Long
You sacrifice damage for the HK knockdown.
Parker Murphy
>holding back >still get hit by fucking superdash >holding down back >still get hit by fucking low
Zachary Howard
Down back block just doesn't work for me but I'm a degenerate analog stick user.
Kayden Foster
Ouch. That high huh? I'm at a ~62% win rate right now but I'm having a lot of truble maintaining that. Mostly due to having to deal with characters people don't usually use. Cell, Black, Frieza, the Gokus and Vegetas, I've learned how to deal with them. It's the oddball choices that screw with me. in particular there's 2 Nappa players I keep running into that I really struggle against, I've won against them before but my win rate against him is definitely still negative.
Hudson Lee
Do you guys enjoy the team system more than 1v1 singles?
Kayden Lewis
no
Jackson Anderson
best post in this thread
Leo Morales
i'm supreme kai and i'm still not shit
Christian Russell
I'd rather it be 1v1, but I'm still having fun regardless
Xavier Lewis
How do I do spicy Trunks tech? I can reliably hit with hard knockdowns into lvl1 or 3 but I want something more spicy. Can he do anything cool off vanish besides 236M? Can I use his autocombo to continue a combo after a wall bounce? Feed me senpais
Mason Fisher
have you seen his spin jump links? good luck with those
Landon Powell
>can do the universal combo easily enough, but only manage an average of 3.5k per combo without spending a bar or assist. I guess it's time for me to learn how to extend my comboes using my assists. I've seen some combo videos of Ginyu/Freeza doing more damage without assists or meter, but I can never quite replicate them.
It sucks too, because I'm finding myself stagnating and I want to keep improving. I guess I'll hit up the lab and try some stuff out.
At least my Beerus is improving. He really is super solid.
Carson Cox
>get to the point where people your own color dodge you after the first game feels good man, can i be yellow yet
Carson King
youre not doing universal combo optimally if youre only getting 3.5k, every character should be able to do close to 4k
Ryan Parker
I have a tendency to play my team like they are 1v1, just with additional buttons I can hit.
The team system does guarantee that my fights don't become stagnant or boring feeling, and let's me cover weaknesses on characters who would otherwise be dead in the water solo.
Juan Ross
It'd be really cool if I could get matched with people that aren't 5 ranks ahead of me
Jayden James
WOOOOO FUCKING NOTHING FEELS BETTER
Nolan Foster
are health bars standardized in this game?
follow up question if so: why the fuck would I pick normal Goku over Goku Black?
Justin Murphy
everyone has the same health yes because they have different pros and cons i actually recently switched to ssgoku and i like him more than black
Benjamin Martinez
vegeta blue is legitimately trash. not only is he way worse than regular vegeta in every way, he fundamentally doesn't have any of the things that makes someone in this game good
Caleb Cox
goku has better neutral than black, can get more dmg with hard sliding knockdowns, his level 1s all have hard knockdowns, he has better beams than black, he is one of the best characters to stall out and beat lvl 3 sparking opponents, he has big damage solo or with teams, he has the same beam assist as black and his zchange is far better synergy for most of cast to combo from or into.
the question is why would you pick black when goku is far superior?
Austin Kelly
Noob question, what do I do against people that wake up mashing jab?
Jordan Price
remember when he ate cymbal?
Oliver White
>tfw Chaotzu gives the opponent a nice parting hug
Charles Morales
Based
Ryan Ramirez
it's really not hard to do meaties in this game, just make sure you press a button as they are waking up and it will beat them 99% of the time
Jaxson Hill
Kek
Samuel Sullivan
>not hard to do meaties >they can delay tech >they can up tech
you sound retarded and must believe everyone does the same tech every time.
William Nguyen
having a bad tendency to hit too many buttons feels way more punishing in this game than any other I've played. maybe it's just because you get combo'd for so long afterwards, but it feels harsh in this one especially.
John Hill
it's actually very hard to do meaties other than having a lot of tech options and hard knockdowns being very rare there's also delay wakeup and it's not just normal delay wake up you can pick the exact moment you can wake up and can delay it for a really long time
Jacob Parker
>been like 2 weeks >some people still call it dragon ball Z fighters Are they retarded or in denial?
James Young
it's so fucking easy to meaty, literally mashing jab over their corpse like a retard STILL catches people on wakeup, the only retard here is the one who thinks wake up jab is an actual problem
Camden Baker
It's obviously Dragon Ball Fighter ZED
Kayden Murphy
im grateful for this game because it finally erased my habit of button mashing in anime fighters
Joseph Diaz
Do i have to block low while in the air too? I keep getting clipped by lows while airborne. Like, I'll block there mids, then while I'm still above the ground a 2M will hit. Alternately, does grounded state become active slightly before touching the floor?
Kevin Ward
I thought ragequitting was for scrubs and xenobabies?