How did the Japanese rationalize the outcome of WWII? Bonus points for other...

Crazy_Nice
Crazy_Nice

How did the Japanese rationalize the outcome of WWII? Bonus points for other Japanese rationalizations, either leading up to or during the war.

RumChicken
RumChicken

@Crazy_Nice
Hey, we lost. Sorr..... sike! Dindunuffin fuck off! We still emperors and shiet. Glorious nippon. Ching Ching bong huaching nake

Carnalpleasure
Carnalpleasure

@Crazy_Nice
Wasn't it that God Emperor Hirohito said it was like, a coup or something, military guys started acting on their own, and he really loved America?

BunnyJinx
BunnyJinx

@Carnalpleasure
There is some truth to this, the military acted almost independently from the government. Hirohito did have a role in military operations, though.

Stark_Naked
Stark_Naked

@Crazy_Nice
Listen to/read Hirohito's surrender speech. He tries to make Japan sound magnanimous for not launching its "inevitable" counterattack in response to the nukes, which he says would "result in the extinction of all humanity".

Skullbone
Skullbone

@Stark_Naked
Was he bullshitting though?

RumChicken
RumChicken

@Skullbone
Of course, Japan had no ability to retaliate whatsoever. And were going to face mass famines that would kill millions in less than a year.

JunkTop
JunkTop

@Skullbone
Japan was starving at this point. If the allies hadn't desired such a swift end to the war, an invasion and/or nukes wouldn't have been necessary. The soviets and the Americans had already virtually surrounded Japan and were ready to starve the country into submission.

CodeBuns
CodeBuns

@Skullbone
he had madoka magic season 0

haveahappyday
haveahappyday

@Skullbone

Japan's army and air force at the time was completely wrecked and it's army was in bad shape because no supplies. Which was caused by many cities already being fire-bombed into oblivion. So no, they couldn't do shit. And they were also scared shitless of the Soviets. If America hadn't forced surrender with the nukes, there might have been a North/South Japan today, like Korea and Vietnam are/were.

Also bumping, I'm also want to hear Nip rationalizations.

massdebater
massdebater

@haveahappyday
If America hadn't forced surrender with the nukes, there might have been a North/South Japan today, like Korea and Vietnam are/were.

Ahhh this tired and retarded meme

Methnerd
Methnerd

@massdebater

implying the Soviets weren't a nice piece of land grab since Nips had no navy anymore

Garbage Can Lid
Garbage Can Lid

@Methnerd
[Citation needed]

girlDog
girlDog

@Crazy_Nice
Wareware wa dindu nanimo! Ii bo-chan da!

Inmate
Inmate

@Garbage Can Lid
The Soviet Union was not a territory gobbling blood thirsty blob
Are you trying and failing at a ruse, or is this some autistic Trotskike jab at the Soviet Union not going with Trotsky's plan of constant war?

Methshot
Methshot

@Crazy_Nice

BIG

PackManBrainlure
PackManBrainlure

@Garbage Can Lid

Manchuria.

SniperGod
SniperGod

@Crazy_Nice
The Japanese made the right choice.

It was either surrender to the Americans and nearly become an economic superpower in 40 years, or continue the fight only to have the Soviets come in and exact revenge for the Russo-Japanese War. Communism would have been forced on them, or at least half of their country, and they would have spent the next 50 years as one of the front lines of the Cold War.

If you think about what their future could have been, they got the better end of the deal compared to Korea, Indochina, Germany, etc.

Lunatick
Lunatick

@Crazy_Nice
Extradition of last Chinese emperor to Communists was good price for neutrality of USSR in after-war Japanese inner politics. Nice deal.

King_Martha
King_Martha

Better question, if China had a strong pro-american government at the time, would Japan have been absolutely buttfucked and be a shithole today?

Evil_kitten
Evil_kitten

@massdebater
Why is this scenario so unlikely in your opinion?

Carnalpleasure
Carnalpleasure

@SniperGod
Soviet Union is not Russia you dumbass

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