Every fucking time

RavySnake
RavySnake

newly appointed emperor/king/ruler is about to do some great shit
dies """""suddenly"""""
Every fucking time

Deadlyinx
Deadlyinx

Why is suddenly in quotes? Are you saying they actually died over a long period of time?

PackManBrainlure
PackManBrainlure

@Deadlyinx
More like as result of some kind of (((scheme))) i.e. not sudden at all.

BinaryMan
BinaryMan

people make claims
die before they fail

Illusionz
Illusionz

@RavySnake
Not today Marcus Antonius

Need_TLC
Need_TLC

@BinaryMan
JULIAN WOULD HAVE BEEN GREAT
REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

Soft_member
Soft_member

Always trust the Praetorians.

DeathDog
DeathDog

@Need_TLC
Julian was a fag and Christianity was too entrenched in Rome to eliminate. Total waste of an emperor.

Spazyfool
Spazyfool

@DeathDog
the third temple would have been cool though

Harmless_Venom
Harmless_Venom

@Deadlyinx
Time traveling jews

Deadlyinx
Deadlyinx

@Need_TLC
Julian
the pleb's choice

BlogWobbles
BlogWobbles

@RavySnake
Why do you think Trump is using a private security detail staffed with ideological loyalists instead of the Secret Service?

Ignoramus
Ignoramus

how fried does your brain have to be to attempt becoming emperor when the last 10 guys were killed within a year of coming to power?

AwesomeTucker
AwesomeTucker

@Ignoramus
Ambition

Being emperor for a year

Inmate
Inmate

@Deadlyinx
RIP Pertinax was too pure for this world

Supergrass
Supergrass

@BlogWobbles
Because he's a self-worshipping neoliberal from the private sector and is dismantling the government and installing corporate feudalism under the guise of Protectionist Christian Patriotism?

Evilember
Evilember

@Ignoramus
Surely I am special, these friendly Praetorians will help

RavySnake
RavySnake

@Supergrass
Noice

WebTool
WebTool

@Ignoramus
Because you literally think that you are a god

Fried_Sushi
Fried_Sushi

@RavySnake
Lincolns reconstruction
Lenin postnep
Alexander the great before consolidating his empire
Edward vi before fully protestantizing England
Giangaleazzo visconti before conquering florence and uniting north italy
Death of william henry harrison before he could implement the whig program
Alexander hamilton dying before he could create a viable conservative stste party (federalist) instead of the retarded jeffersonian tradition
death of napoleons son and napoleon iiis nephew
Death of sun yatsen before great northern expedition unites china

cum2soon
cum2soon

@Fried_Sushi
Also assassination of tsar paul before he could fuck up the nobles grip on russian life
Assasibation of alexabder ii days before promulgstion of a constitution
Death of mirabeau at crticial transition phase to constitutional monarchy in early phase of french revolution
Death of kaiser Frederick iii who was better than incompetent kaiser wilhelm ii
Assassination of archduke ferdinand before he could revitalize ah empire

Fuzzy_Logic
Fuzzy_Logic

@Fried_Sushi

Lincoln's reconstruction

John Wilkes Booth killing Abraham "Magnanimous and All Forgiving" Lincoln thinking him a tyrant is one of the greatest historical ironies. Lincoln was even trying to pay reparations to the former slaaaveowners. What the Union needed was four years of that guy and instead we have the butthurt Union playing punitive, possibly exacerbating the wounds of the nation into a permanently scarred state

Harmless_Venom
Harmless_Venom

someone...Obrenovic

Fried_Sushi
Fried_Sushi

@Deadlyinx
Patrician choice right there.

Also pic related, his death was probably one of the greatest tragedies of Roman history.

girlDog
girlDog

@Ignoramus
Most of the barracks Emperors were acclaimed by their own troops and basically forced to become Emperor.

Think about it. If you refuse, some other officer in the army is going to accept, and if he knows that you were offered a crown then he's not going to take any chances. These were perilous times, and so he'll see you as a threat. He'd probably get your own troops to stab you to death that very day.

Besides, some of the more successful Emperors of the third century managed to reign for a reasonable amount of time, such as Gallienus or Aurelian, even if they eventually met gruesome ends.

SomethingNew
SomethingNew

Newly appointed people dying is bad but so is old rulers dying right before achieving that one crowning achievement for their legacy.

Timur the Lame gets pneumonia, dies and can't take down emperor Yongle of Ming

Bidwell
Bidwell

@DeathDog
Christianity was too entrenched in Rome to eliminate
Not really.

massdebater
massdebater

@RavySnake
Not as bad as the truly cruellest of fates:

Achieving great success but living long enough to see your entire life's work completely undone and ending your days in complete hopelessness and despair.

AwesomeTucker
AwesomeTucker

@massdebater
Why didn't Heraclius take command of the troops? Was he too old/sick by then or did he just put too much faith in the competence of his subordinates?

Burnblaze
Burnblaze

@AwesomeTucker
Probably too old. The conflict with the Arabs wasn't even considered an invasion until quite late. By the time of Yarmouk the Byzantine Levant was already a mess

VisualMaster
VisualMaster

Not choosing the greatest tragedy of ancient times.

The death of the emperor to be, and proud german exterminator, Julius Cesar Germanicus.

viagrandad
viagrandad

@massdebater
The victorious conclusion of the Byzantine-sassanian war cemented Heraclius' position as one of history's most successful generals. He was hailed as "the new Scipio" for his six years of unbroken victories and for leading the Roman army where no Roman army had ever gone before.[64][144] The triumphal raising of the True Cross in the Hagia Sophia was a crowning moment in his achievements. Had Heraclius died then, he would have been recorded in history, in the words of Norman Davies, as "the greatest Roman general since Julius Caesar".[64] Instead, he lived through the Arab invasions, losing battle after battle against their onslaught and tarnishing his reputation for victory. John Norwich succinctly described Heraclius as having "lived too long".[149]

his whole life is like a greek play

@AwesomeTucker
he was already a sick old man by then

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