Is he the most brilliant general in history?

>Don't you remember the Alamo? No survivors

He 'beat' 200 irregulars at the cost of taking three times their casualties and having his army held up for two whole weeks attacking a strategically meaningless target.

Then he got utterly btfo at San Jacinto, taking x30 the enemy's casualties despite having a huge advantage in men. Then de facto Texan Independence.

Have you ever seen the K/D of the Alamo?

>then the US beat him
The Texans received a handful of volunteers and the occasional cannon from the US, but they basically won the war by themselves. Almost all of the army in the decisive battle was Texian as well the general that led it, Sam Houston.

sad part is the Alamo wasn't even a fort, just a shitty old mission with walls.

guys stop, I'm a strategical mastermmind. Nobody could have beaten the Alamo except me.

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>most brilliant
>mfw some spaniard

subotai

This is a terrible awful comment and you should feel fucking ashamed for it user

go die in a carpet fire

Can anyone explain to me what the justification for calling him the "Napoleon of the west", was?

Only thing i've heard about him were his fuckups.

My Grandfather fought against the Germans in Tobruk and El Alamein. He said British Troops had respect for Rommel, and knew he (like almost all German Soldiers) were not Nazis.

He rarely told war stories, but one he did tell was when his battalion had captured a group of German soldiers. While they were being held in the desert, one of the Germans jumped up and started shouting 'Seig Heil'. The other German soldiers immediately beat him up. They were sick of his shit.

Only plebs lose battles.

It was literally what he called himself. He was a self-promoter

OP is baiting guys, trust me, I'm Mexican

any other answer that is not the man in pic related is wrong

*pretends to rout near you*

This is the last time they spoke as friends :^[

well one of these guys went on to whoop Nazi ass

Orbregon?

lol, I wish, seeing his fat armless ass drive the german horde away with his trenches would be glorious

but nah dude, Patton

literally who.

Literally who

Forgot pic of the Goat

Obregon was a great General though, he completely BTFO Villa using WW1 tactics at the battle of Celaya and all but ended the Villista civil war

i'd even argue he was better than Pershing

stfu he was a awful general and a traitor

Mexican troops were able to defeat the Spanish army, countless rebellions, and if they had better leadership they could have put up and actual fight against the U.S.they wouldn't have won, but competent generals would have help a lot

he was a gigantic failure

Lee was easily the greatest General in American history, however not world history

Robert Lee is the biggest meme general ever, I assume mostly because Americans have no other generals to be proud of, so inevitably overrate anyone they can. Robert Lee proved he was incredibly tactically inept in battle situations and lost easily winnable battles by his poor decision making alone. Please end this meme that Robert Lee was a good general, read any decent book on generals throughout history and they will point out how shockingly incompetent he really was.

Was he sound strategically tho?

Lee was a genius, you shut your whore mouth! Jackson and Washington were even better!

The greatest general in American history was probably Grant, who adopted amazingly fast to an entire new era of warfare being ushered in halfway through his career and outgeneraled his enemies at every turn with superior maneuver and understanding of logistics.

It's either him or Scott.

Jackson was an amazing combat General one of the best. Can't say if he'd do better higher he died too soon.

Washington was an above average general at best but good at keeping the army together and supplied when no one else could that's why he was good.

Lee won battle after battle with less troops, less supplies, less artillery, less cavalry, and knowing it the whole time. If he hadn't fucked Gettysburg up he would have gone down as one of the best.

You can eat a dick Grant was a fuck.

They have internet in the south now?

why do you think cuck porn became so popular?

He is a butcher of his own men who was out maneuvered over and over. There is a reason he was a drunk.

I don't think that Lee was a terrible general, but how much of his successes can be attributed to the failure of his opponents? McClellan was ridiculously lacking in aggression and Burnside only commanded the battle of Fredricksberg, where his late construction of the pontoon bridge spelled disaster for the Union troops, Hooker while fairly alright at administration was a bad command and was beset with cronyism. When the Army of the Potomac finally got an competent commander in Meade Lee suffered a disastrous loss at Gettysberg, and once the aggressive Grant took over, he was driven completely onto the back foot.

Lee was clearly competent and capable in his command, but I don't think he was all that brilliant as his proponents say. Most of his successes only shine as much as they do because he was fighting bad commanders and an army consumed by political infighting.

>He is a butcher of his own men

Objectively incorrect. Grant's armies in total took 154,000 casualties, while having inflicted 191,000 on enemies. This is less in both proportional and absolute terms than Lee. Better casualty exchange rate too.

>who was out maneuvered over and over

Vicksburg was probably the greatest operation of the war and a masterpiece of maneuver, still studied to this day. The fuck you talking about.

There were many shady barfights between poor Germans sent to the Eastern front and Wealthy Parachooters etc boasting about their Western exploits.

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Not even nearly.

>tfw Texan with a Mexican dad whose ancestors fought in the Texan Revolution under Santa Anna

Hehe I wonder how they would see me now.

Did Pershing ever do anything really impressive though?

>the only battle won by the french inthe franco prussian war was won by this guy

>claims Bolivar is great
>Literally everything he dreamt of building failed
Nice Great Man you've got there plebbo

absolutely not

>tfw when you have been forgotten