>I want to redpill normies Please stop. You may see yourself as some sort of wise guy who is enlightened about the world but this is only going to get you ostracized from those around you. Im telling you this for your own good
Brandon Hall
>raid
What the fuck do you think this is, 2005?
Oliver Diaz
>all this garbage Jesus. No wonder you guys aren't historians. I'm not even sure if any of you are university students.
Levi Powell
>No refutation >Appeal to authority
Make it harder eh shlomo?
Eli Morales
>Shitty sourceless garbage and a YouTube video are the best stormcucks have to offer wew
Zachary Cox
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Ethan Nelson
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Jonathan Williams
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Ryder Martinez
It's obviously wrong to anyone with bit of healthy scepticism.
>No photo evidence Allies took aerial photographs of the camps
>No documents alludging to a program of extermination Wrong, Posen speech for example
>Human soaps were lies incorrect
>If the gas chambers were real... Retarded reasoning
>Babi Yar was a Soviet lie... That's fucking retarded, Soviets didn't gave two fucks about Babi Yar. First monument erected there was from '76
>Ground penetrating radar... lolno
I won't even cover the rest. It's plain bullshit to anyone with at least half a brain.
Ayden Sanchez
>human soaps existed Full retard
Joseph Rivera
>aerial photographs of the camps
So?
Convenient how every 'death camp' was certified by our friends the Russians.
Joseph Taylor
>The Russians got anywhere close to Risiera di San Sabba.
Eat shit.
Carter Hall
>What is the Stutthoff concentration camp Are you going to address any of the images I posted ?
Asher Evans
But here's a Russian liberating a factory in Czechoslovakia dear friend.
Jose Hill
Assuming that Hitler started gassing Jews since day sept 1 1939- sept2 1945, that makes for 3,153,600 minutes, i.e. 2190 days or 6 years.
Now total estimate of 6,000,000 Jews were killed during those 3,153,600 minutes which comes out to 1.9 Jews per minute. That means Hitler killed 1 Jew every 30 seconds. (roughly)
In Auschwitz, the most famous and biggest concentration camp, there are 15 crematoriums. According to Auschwitz survivors, Jews would go into the chamber, gassed for 15-20 minutes, then put into the oven.
It takes 1 hour to cremate a body using modern furnaces..., which operate at higher temperatures than the traditional hundred year old ovens at the camp. However, lets say that the ovens were operating at a level that we see today, that means it would take 1 hour, 20 minutes to gas and burn 15 Jews assuming they were all burned simultaneously. (Disregarding the time it would take for the gas to empty the chamber for the bodies to be transported from the chamber to the oven.) The elevators used to transport bodies were very slow and could only take up 7 bodies at a time with their weight capacity. However, for the sake of the point, we're going to assume that bodies were teleported instantly from chamber to oven.
That means 15 Jews were gassed and burned every 1.2 hours. That comes out to exactly 300 Jews every 24 hours (Assuming the gassing and burning of Jews was happening every hour straight for 6 years on an uninterrupted basis) the total number of jews killed would be 657,000 for those 6 years. The official Jewish story is that 4,000,000 Jews were killed at Auschwitz alone. You're about 3.4million short there goy...
Andrew Wood
The same Russians that supresed knowledge about Jewish holocaust? Really makes you think, doesn't it?
Nazis developed the process and made a small amount of such soap (~80kg according to one worker). But apparently they had a bright moment and realized it's fucking retarded (or uneconomical) and abandoned the project.
Julian Sanders
You're still not responding to anything I posted, stormcuck. >The official Jewish story is that 4,000,000 Jews were killed at Auschwitz alone. You're about 3.4million short there goy... I've already disproven that you stupid shit. Quit posting pasta.
Mason Torres
>offer a distorted representation of the Holocaust?
There's a lot of written evidence that German soldiers would refuse to kill in cold blood. Indeed the reason gassing was supposedly adopted was the lesser impact upon the psyche of the German.
However, we see Germans laughing and joking about shooting Jews in cold blood throughout the film. Indeed the main protagonist Amon, cannot start his breakfast without shooting at least one Jew.
At the end of the film we see Neeson breaking down in tears that he could not save enough Jews. He throws off his material trappings, equating his possessions to lives. This man profited from the lives of these innocent angels. He begs their forgiveness, crying in their arms as they pitilessly look on as if to say "you, yes you, the viewer, what have you done to save a Jew? How do you remember the Holocaust?"
Hudson Foster
Suffered =/= killed, halfwit.
Isaiah Robinson
Please do, and don't forget to tell us how it went!
Michael Walker
>He thinks all the Jews were killed by gassing Starvation gassing executions intensive labour
>There's a lot of written evidence that German soldiers would refuse to kill in cold blood. Some would. Others would not. Who do you think Oskar Dirlewanger was?
>Indeed the main protagonist Amon, cannot start his breakfast without shooting at least one Jew. Maybe you should look up who Amon Goethe actually was.
Zachary Campbell
>Hey /pol/ You've blown your cover /pol/yp
Wyatt Gutierrez
Gommie plz
Nathaniel Nelson
>Nazis developed the process and made a small amount of such soap (~80kg according to one worker). But apparently they had a bright moment and realized it's fucking retarded (or uneconomical) and abandoned the project. There are people who still unironically believe in this shit.
What the fuck.
Matthew Gray
>don't take your history from Hollywood >except for the Shoah goy
Nathaniel Cox
Serious question, no hate. If Zyklon B is so incredibly deadly and better at killing mammals than lice, why the heck was it used as a delouser and described as being "readily available today"? Couldn't they find anything safer? According to Wikipedia that stuff is still used today, just not very often, under a different name. Aren't anti-terrorism organizations worried about it being used in chemical attacks?
Nathan Long
Is it thanks to Shirer that people still spout this soap and lambshade business? He also wrote that the Reichstag fire was a 'obvious false flag', which it might been, but there is no clear evidence. I don't remember the primary source for the fact, but both Kershaw's biography (the second part, 'Nemesis') and Evans 'Third Reich in war' write's both of as nonsense.
>At the same time, oral information was passed that all the Jews of Kiev would be moved to another place. In cooperation with the HQ of EGC and two Kommandos of the police regiment South, Sonderkommando 4a executed 33,771 Jews on September 29 and 30. (1) Gold and valuables, linen, and clothing were secured. Part of it was given to the NSV (National-Sozialistische Versorgung = Nazi Welfare) for the ethnic Germans, and part to the appointed city administration for distribution among the needy population. The action was carried out smoothly and no incidents occurred. The population agreed with the plan to move the Jews to another place. >That they were actually liquidated has hardly been made known. However, according to the experience gained so far, this would not meet with any opposition. The army has also approved the measures taken. The Jews that have not yet been caught or who will return will be treated accordingly. At the same time, a number of NKVD men and commissars were arrested and finished off.
And Ilya Ehrenburg never was a Soviet propaganda minister.
Jaxon Miller
>Uses Veeky Forums >Can't handle the odd nazi But why come?
Wyatt Gonzalez
That covers it pretty well. Thanks.
>As a substance listed under Schedule 3 of the Chemical Weapons Convention as a potential weapon which has large-scale industrial uses, manufacturing plants in signatory countries which produce more than 30 tonnes per year must be declared to, and can be inspected by, the Organisation for the Prohibition of Chemical Weapons. Good to know.
Nolan Wood
>America voted for this man
Parker Murphy
What I don't understand is why Schlindler's List has funny scenes?
It's been a couple of years since I last saw it, but I can think of two off the top of my head ("Oh, an educated Jew, just like Karl Marx himself"), and the scene where the Nazis are looking one way and Jews are escaping behind them in a comical fashion in time with the music.
>On his own initiative, he set up a process to produce soap from human fat in 1943-44 and a limited quantity of the soap was produced on his order to clean autopsy rooms.
Owen Turner
>four million PEOPLE That was the official Soviet propaganda. They actually downplayed the Jewish holocaust.
Adam Parker
cui bono? They wanted to make Germans the worst goys to make right their subjugation.
Gavin Foster
Daily reminder that he uironically eats pizza with a fork.
Reminder that stormfags know perfectly well that the estimated death toll at auschwitz was never 4 million and use the figure anyway because they have an agenda and don't care about lying. >Shortly following the camp's liberation, the Soviet government stated that four million people had been killed on the site, a figure now regarded as greatly exaggerated.[171] While under interrogation, Höss said that Adolf Eichmann told him that two and a half million Jews had been killed in gas chambers and about half a million more had died of other causes.[172] Later he wrote, "I regard the figure of two and a half million as far too high. Even Auschwitz had limits to its destructive possibilities".[173] Gerald Reitlinger's 1953 book The Final Solution estimated the number killed to be 800,000 to 900,000,[174] and Raul Hilberg's 1961 work The Destruction of the European Jews estimated the number killed to be a maximum of 1,000,000 Jewish victims.[175] French chemist and author Jean-Claude Pressac estimates that between 631,000 and 711,000 killed at Auschwitz, of whom 470,000 to 550,000 were gassed.[176] >In 1983, French scholar George Wellers was one of the first to use German data on deportations to estimate the number killed at Auschwitz, arriving at a figure of 1,471,595 deaths, including 1.35 million Jews and 86,675 Poles.[177] A larger study started by Franciszek Piper used timetables of train arrivals combined with deportation records to calculate at least 960,000 Jewish deaths and at least 1.1 million total deaths,[178] a figure adopted as official by the Auschwitz-Birkenau State Museum in the 1990s.[179][e] Piper stated that a figure of as many as 1.5 million total deaths was possible.[179]
Thomas Brown
There was not really a need for that, Nazis managed it on themselves.
Logan Scott
>Hey /pol/
Wyatt Turner
The holocaust did happen. It was totally justified. The Einsatzgruppen was an anti-terrorist organisation.
Brayden Peterson
people know that 6 000 000 Jews were killed in WW2 but they probably don't know how many died in their own country Belarus and Poland were massacred in much greater numbers
Germany killed more Slavs than Jews yet the Jews are the one group focused on
I wonder why maybe they have connexions in the entertainment industry to overhype their own victimhood? OOOO I MUST BE A NAZII!!
Blake Brooks
t. American
Juan Ward
>Hey /pol/ Nigger
Jack Thompson
>People questioning how Hitler could have killed so many people so fast who don't question the validity of the shit happening in Cambodia where commie with farming tools and AK's put Hitler's civilian kills/minute ratio to shame What do they mean by this?
Jayden Kelly
They mean JIDF detected.
Samuel Taylor
Yes, but they also wanted to portray Slavs as the biggest victims. Stalin wasn't exactly a friend of Jews, same with later Soviet rulers.
Fun Fact: Eric Hunt doesn't deny holocaust anymore.
Juan Martinez
I was expecting this shit to be about how Schindler's List sugarcoats the Holocaust, not outright denial.
Jaxson Nelson
This.
John Kelly
is shit
Ayden Phillips
The fact that mods don't outright ban Holocaust-denying threads is pretty strong evidence for them having an agenda.
Lincoln Allen
The nazis here are rather recent. Some of us have been here over a decade and dont want those faggots here.
Noah Phillips
Guys. No one needs to be a historian to figure out the killing millions of people in several different and creative ways is not tactically sound while fighting a war on two fronts.
How retarded do you think the German were? It's more tactical to use them as forced labor and If you don't need them anymore then simply stop feeding them.
The shit we learn about the holocaust is far to exravagant to make sense.
Justin Roberts
Why is it illegal for me to say that the holocaust didn't happen the way it is presented?
>maybe because Europe is cucked.
Aaron Butler
The fact that people like this can exist with LIVING HOLOCAUST SURVIVORS around baffles me.
Ian Gonzalez
We don't talk about fight club...
Kevin Collins
I love how among this group of self-hatred projecting highschool "weird kids", a cuck is anyone who has a soul or any compassion in them.
Veeky Forums needs to see a therapist.
Dylan Carter
B-but how are they living?
JK LOL!
No one doubts that there were internment/labor camps. That's just a part of war. But were there giant death factories? Probably not.
Chase Murphy
Spreading lies on purpose, instigating hatred, being retarded, insulting the dead etc.
Not to mention legislative against genocide denial is not exclusive to Holocaust, you utter fucking retard.
Connor Johnson
Sooooo... why is it illegal then. Stop defecting my question.
James James
> footage of farm equipment-level body disposable > human claw marks inside Corpse-Maker-9000
Wyatt Wilson
To have an opposing opinion does none of those things.
God I love free speech. Sucks for Europeans, enjoy the refugees you truly virtuous people.
Lucas Long
MODS.
PLEASE MAKE A HOLOCAUST DENIAL RULE
This shit wastes so much space.
Joshua Smith
> on the side of Holocaust-denial > makes refugee jab
Holy cow, are you actually a literal skinhead? Get a life.
Lucas Moore
>Someone thinks an alternative view of world history is inappropriate to discuss on a forum about world history!
MOOOOOOOOOODS!
John Carter
>To have an opposing opinion does none of those things. Except for the "being retarded part" in this case. Having an opinion is not illegal. Spreading lies can be illegal.
Gabriel Smith
> proven incorrect view
Michael Green
>alternative view of world history We have /x/ and /mlp/ for that
Robert Richardson
You'r grasping a straws.
Jeremiah Foster
Clearly not since this conversation is existing. RIGHT NOW!
Said the men, whose only argument is that spreading materials supporting his theory is illegal in some countries/
Wyatt Baker
Eurofags swallowing blue pills want us arrested for questioning jewish lies about the numbers killed and the techniques used. Good goys.
William Phillips
>because new historic evidence never emerges.
This guy believes that the legend of Troy was based on a real city. Lol, retard!
Brayden Murphy
This is an anonymous board you retard. You have no clue what all I've been saying.
Dominic Sullivan
>because new historic evidence never emerges It does sometimes, for theories that hold merit. But oops! Your one is on par with New Chronology, considering it would need a global conspiracy to make sense.
Hudson Sanders
"You'r" ironically grasping at straws by saying that. user had a point.
Ryder Butler
This is like watching a fully armored Templar fighting a chimpanzee. Keep up the good work user- he can only spam half-assed responses for so long.
Henry Turner
>alternative view of world history I like how /pol/tards cry about how the world should be REALS over FEELS and suddenly become postmodernists when it comes to history.
Jayden Allen
you posted in the wrong neighborhood
Isaac Peterson
I actually stated typing a whole thing about 'deformation of character' laws but realized US and Europe probably have different laws. Either way in the US you need to prove that the lie has hurt someone in order for it to be illegal. Free Speech!
Like when the discovery of Altamira Cave happened which put man's history back past 6k years? Marcelino Sanz de Sautuola was labeled a conspiracy theorist, a lier, a forger, and publicly shamed.
Your just as ignorant as those people.
Brayden Watson
See
Gavin Wood
>the Nazis here are rather recent Your grasp of the English language is almost as poor as your knowledge of Veeky Forums history.
Hunter Ward
>I can claim any retarded shit to be true because some guy was deemed to be wrong in the past but was actually right (and contrary to me, had actual evidence), therefore anything I say is as valid as evidence-supported peer-reviewed academic consensus Exactly as I said, you retards turn postmodernist real fast.
Parker Hall
>b-but guys! Just because something looks retarded to you, it must be correct!
>Marcelino Sanz de Sautuola was labeled a conspiracy theorist I'm sure you have solid evidence to back this up.