Roman Empirlet

>counting vast stretches of empty grass
>not counting the mediterranean
funny isnt it

How many people speak a language descended from mongolian exactly?

behold the glory of the mongol empire

the mongols took
>they make a desert and call it peace
to a whole new level

about 6 to 7 million

most of them write in cryllic or latin.

Actually kinda pretty desu

Not as pretty as the Mediterranean coast but not bad.

This is also important to note. They were just conquerors there to collect. They didn't actually have anything to offer their subjects other than some advantageous byproducts of their rampages for the subjugated survivors. They could conquer like no others but at the end of the day their culture was garbage tier.

Did you not read the thread? You're more illiterate than the Mongols were. See Wealthiest trade route in the world and center of Buddhism full of giant golden statues and magic carpets is not "empty space"

So replacing languages and culture means the Romans' is great? How is that less "mere conqueror"y than keeping them while developing your own in the meantime as the Mongols did?

turns out if you destroy everything in your path then that path becomes a lot safer
which is great, but it's more like a silver lining

WAIT FOR IT

What are you talking about? That fortress is pre-Mongol which is the point.

So what? They didn't build it, they found it and allowed it to keep existing.

It's not the size that matters, it's how you use it.

>go around asia burning everything
>call it an empire

Because the Romans left a legacy, even Romanian is a more widespread language than Mongolian. Mongols really were just a fart in the wind.

Like I just said, that's the point. It was a major region when they took control of it and it remained one.

Gual was not like China.

The Mediterranean? You mean one of the most commercially active seas in history? The Mediterranean is an endless bounty for people enterprising enough to tap it, and that's why people fought over it for thousands of years and not over vast stretches of empty steppe.

And furthermore it is precisely the Mediterranean's geography which makes it a bitch to conquer and even more difficult to hold onto. Consider how handily the Persians conquered Ionian Greeks living in Asia Minor, but were stopped trying to cross the Aegean. The broken nature of the terrain makes it so that individual city states can exist independently of each other without getting throttled by a central bureaucracy and/or horde of horsemen.

>if goyuk didnt die randomly every European would have Mongolian blood today.

really makes u think

Why did the chicken cross the road?

Mongols didn't build any of that.

Rome literally built Western Civilization.

>t. 1.6 metres

>Split between like 3 different rulers

Contributions > Surface Area

Most people have fond memories of the Roman Empire, for all of it's faults.
Most people revile the Mongols for the senseless destruction they caused.

I like the Roman empire more but I'd honestly rather be a "2.5 meter nigger" aswell, cause b-ball and women.

it was split between their sons. The only reason the empire crumbled was due to the third khan that had no successor, otherwise India and Europe would have been conquered. Ogodei was a great administrator and at the height of the Mongolian empire knew what it took to conquer the rest of the world the deaths of the first khans sons was ironic desu

Romanlets, when will they learn

I swear to god, (((Mongol Empire))) gets bigger with every thread.

>Mongol Empire, an empire that stretched huge swaths of land but most of it was untapped and they didn't bother taking advantage of it

>Rome which literally built Civilizations and the ramifications of it last to this day in every field of humanity

Really made me think user.

>He believes the revisionist crap that implies the Mongol empire didn't encompass the entirety of the Sol System.

>Look at all this.....nothing that we conquered!!

The Mongol Horde was less civilized and honestly less consequential but they would have ravaged the Roman Empire wouldn't they?

> the entirety of the Sol System
Nice way to downplay their achievements.

I see no reason to think the Romans would fare better than anyone else did. Just in China the Mongols defeated th Tanguts, the Song and the Jin. All of these were among the world's most powerful and advanced civilizations at the time. They fought the Khwarazmians in Iran, another incredibly powerful civilization. And these weren't like the Hungarians who were relatively unfamiliar with steppe nomad tactics. They all had experience fighting mongol like peoples.

As we know:
1. Most of the land the Mongols "ruled" was empty wasteland, steppes and deserts as opposed to populated, civilized and militarily-capable regions with Rome.
2. Mongol khanates were short-lived and the few that actually lasted a while only lasted by adopting the civilization, customs, etc. of the conquered land, e.g. China, whereas Rome lasted from it's Republic days way up to 1453 in Byzantium, and ever since in it's accomplishments being emulated the world over well deserving it's capital's nickname of the Eternal City.

That's mostly because the Romans were much more thorough in their destruction.

>only lasted by adopting the civilization, customs, etc. of the conquered land, e.g. China, whereas Rome lasted from it's Republic days way up to 1453 in Byzantium,

You didn't think anyone would take this bait, did you?

Name one thing the Romans really did in Western Europe outside Italy other than build some walls and aqueducts.

As shown by the status of Manchurian today and the imposition of Cyrillic, the Mongolian languages were and are on the defensive side, so why would they try to replace Chinese with it? Instead they iinvented 3 new scripts by 1700. Like the other poster said , Romans were simply more thorough in their destruction.

Untapped? They built up their own country starting with less than anyone else, I'd say that's as tapping as it gets.

Yeah, "nothing", that's why Alexander the Great built half his cities there.

>1.6 meter
i would rather suicide to be perfectly honest.

>Name one thing the Romans really did in Western Europe outside Italy other than build some walls and aquedu
Where ever they went, Romans established the rule of law. Romans didn't care who you are or what gods you pray to, as long as you pay your taxes and kept the peace. They commissioned public works projects on a scale that Europe had never seen before. Pax Romana was an unprecedented era of peace in Europe, allowing for an exchange of ideas which fundamentally altered the ideological composition of Western civilization.

Espically when you consider how many Naval battles the Romans fought for naval supremacy and that eliminating piracy was one of their top objectives after they eliminated all other naval powers, and how important the Mediterranean was for trade.

"Mare Nostrum".

> You mean one of the most commercially active seas in history?
the indian ocean trade was a lot larger

> Roman naval supremacy
the roman navy was a joke they got their shit pushed in by the vandals

Could the American Empire conquer the Mongol Empire in under 10 years?

desu that happened to Rome multiple times
tons of civil wars

But how does this compare to the Ancient Finnish Empire?

How mongol conquer Taiwan? They suck at sea and failed their conquest in Japan and Indonesia.

>makes a stupid thread
>gets butthurt when called out
Lol

>anyone who agrees with OP is OP

Newfagthought in a nutshell.

Bumping for truth