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Need_TLC
Need_TLC

Hard mode: no grand strategy

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mu6gjKMhT3Y
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCyx1mPZXobOxCyzO2CwmDZA
https://ancient-cities.com/#game
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCyx1mPZXobOxCyzO2CwmDZA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wQzpNu-uIl0
Garbage Can Lid
Garbage Can Lid

@Need_TLC
The Father

Lord_Tryzalot
Lord_Tryzalot

@Need_TLC
The Son

MPmaster
MPmaster

@Need_TLC
and the Holy Ghost

SniperWish
SniperWish

@Garbage Can Lid
Back then when I played EU4 the wizard meme was real.

TurtleCat
TurtleCat

@MPmaster
also Boringblanda for M&BW

RumChicken
RumChicken

Sends nude prophets at you

StonedTime
StonedTime

@Lord_Tryzalot
Replace with ck2

FastChef
FastChef

@Garbage Can Lid
@Lord_Tryzalot
@RumChicken
Can't you idiots read? He said no strategy games.

CodeBuns
CodeBuns

@SniperWish
It's kinda sad to see the Paradox not even try to pretend they're offering content for their DLCs and for normies to get ahold of EUIV so much

I mean I'm glad more people enjoy the game, but the attitudes of all the new players is just... unpleasant and bland.

BunnyJinx
BunnyJinx

@Need_TLC
I'm hoping this game turns out alright:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mu6gjKMhT3Y

Takes place in Bohemia during the 1400's. It's not as focused on big battles, like Mount & Blade is, but the combat and setting are supposed to be very faithful to the era. Some of the music was also taken directly from medieval Czech manuscripts.

StrangeWizard
StrangeWizard

@FastChef
He said grand strategy you illiterate retard.
Empire Earth is RTS

Sir_Gallonhead
Sir_Gallonhead

@StrangeWizard
Strategy is strategy, does "grand" really have anything to do with it?

Poker_Star
Poker_Star

@Sir_Gallonhead
Yes. Grand Strategy and RTS function differently. It's like saying there's no difference between RPG and JRPG. OP said "no grand strategy" that means RTS such as Empire Earth and Age of Empires are exempt from this. If it were "no strategy games" then there would be a reason to complain, the idea that EE doesn't fit OP's criteria is absurd.

SniperGod
SniperGod

@FastChef
what is hard mode

TurtleCat
TurtleCat

@Poker_Star
Um

You're a nigger, okay?

eGremlin
eGremlin

@Sir_Gallonhead
starcraft, XCOM, Disgaea and HoI3 are all the same because they're all strategy

CodeBuns
CodeBuns

@TurtleCat
Rude

Stark_Naked
Stark_Naked

Rule the Waves

Garbage Can Lid
Garbage Can Lid

@BunnyJinx

really looking forward to this since its supposed to really focus on historical accuracy

Evil_kitten
Evil_kitten

@Need_TLC

https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCyx1mPZXobOxCyzO2CwmDZA

Thought this was a cool channel. They do historical reviews of games, and they actually have real historians from the topic at hand on the show to discuss it.

Bidwell
Bidwell

WHERE MY CAMPFIRE GAMES NIGGAS AT?

Brigadier General donor reporting in

likme
likme

@Bidwell
What game is this?

Methnerd
Methnerd

Verdun sucks. I hate everyone that says Verdun is good. It'd be a bit better if it had 50vs50 or something, but it doesn't. I'm also pissed that the developers upped the player count for the retarded paid v2.0 for the Eastern front.

I even asked the developers about that a while ago and they basically said the people were too stupid to have a higher unit count in the game as it was. Now they're having you pay for it.

RO2 also sucks. Play Darkest Hour instead. It's about to get a pretty massive upgrade.

Sharpcharm
Sharpcharm

@Bidwell

giving money to Henkel after he shitted up M&B almost as much as Vince with NW

Kill yourself.

Skullbone
Skullbone

@Methnerd
Play Darkest Hour instead.
I own this but I've never played it. Does it even still have players?

Flameblow
Flameblow

@MPmaster
butterlord never ever

StonedTime
StonedTime

@Skullbone

Yeah. The 29th server usually has at least half full, and mostly full. Especially on weekends. I'm about to play right now.

ZeroReborn
ZeroReborn

@likme

War of Rights

@Sharpcharm

t. poorfag who doesn't have the 11th Mississippi skin

Ignoramus
Ignoramus

Why no one ever does China/Burma/Winter War I dunno.

Harmless_Venom
Harmless_Venom

@ZeroReborn

I'm not poor, but I don't just throw my money at shit. If I wanted to do that I'd go to the dog park.

BlogWobbles
BlogWobbles

rate my resurgent Ottoman empire Veeky Forums

Fuzzy_Logic
Fuzzy_Logic

@Inmate
Starts at 3,600 B.C.
You haven't domesitcated the dog some 30,000 years behind everyone else.

Shit-tier shit is shit, user.

Illusionz
Illusionz

@BlogWobbles
Better detailed map of Europe for NapoopaN was great but the loss of theatres was terribly disappointing

Garbage Can Lid
Garbage Can Lid

@Illusionz
yeah
no fucking Aegypt,no Persia,no India so we can kick the Mysore and Sir Roger Dowlett ass,no war of 1812
atleast the battle is cool
this is muh France holding out against the 3 nation alliance

viagrandad
viagrandad

@Garbage Can Lid
its another episode of Old Guard winning a battle by themselves

ZeroReborn
ZeroReborn

Age of empires 1&2 had wonderful history notes on almost everything in game.

For nonstrat I'll go with Encarta's mind maze.

Nojokur
Nojokur

@Stark_Naked
g*rmany

Raving_Cute
Raving_Cute

@ZeroReborn
Age of Empires 3 had them too.

But they were online, and the site is gone.

PurpleCharger
PurpleCharger

@Nojokur
blue decks

Stark_Naked
Stark_Naked

Name a genre that could use a good Veeky Forums game. Or come up with a fresh take on the usual strategy Veeky Forums games.

Raving_Cute
Raving_Cute

@Stark_Naked
Turned based medieval RPG

happy_sad
happy_sad

@Stark_Naked
immersive open world medieval RPG with realistic damage that doesn't suck dick
dwarf fortress being the closest to achieving this

Playboyize
Playboyize

@MPmaster
Why do people call it the Holy Ghost? That sounds fucking retarded, it's the Holy Spirit

Techpill
Techpill

@Playboyize
Because it's a ghost.

TreeEater
TreeEater

@Flameblow
It'll be here soon

PackManBrainlure
PackManBrainlure

@Stark_Naked
anime rhythm games.

VisualMaster
VisualMaster

@Stark_Naked
Open world survival crafting game. The genre needs a decent title full stop, structured age like tech progression would be a good mechanic in a game finished at launch

Dreamworx
Dreamworx

@StonedTime
tfw you're in the 29th but only play RO2

5mileys
5mileys

@Need_TLC

This one is still not out for sale but it looks fucking amazing.

https://ancient-cities.com/#game

askme
askme

@5mileys
You are kidding me. I've literally been looking for a game like that for 2 months and had just accepted the fact that there were none.

Emberburn
Emberburn

@askme

Join me in waiting for 2018 release date...

Booteefool
Booteefool

@5mileys
That looks superb

viagrandad
viagrandad

IL2 Sturmovik (1946, Cliffs of Dover and Battle of Stalingrad were kinda meh)
Silent Hunter 3 and 5
Assassins Creed games (yeah i know it's pleb as fuck but historical settings are top tier and lots of historical characters appearing)
East India Company (historical trading simulator)

Boy_vs_Girl
Boy_vs_Girl

@Techpill
Sounds spooky. Good thing it's not a skeleton.

viagrandad
viagrandad

@Boy_vs_Girl
Or is it????

TurtleCat
TurtleCat

@Inmate
I want to see this battle play out

StonedTime
StonedTime

@5mileys
Tfw I backed the kickstarter for 40$ for full game, future DLCs/expansion pack and name on the credit list.

Feels good

Crazy_Nice
Crazy_Nice

@5mileys
This sounds very ambitious and I am sorry to say it but I doubt we will get half of the features they have promised.

girlDog
girlDog

King of Dragon Pass is a tribe simulator game where you lead a pseudo-Celtic tribe in it's attempt to dominate the other tribes and become King of the region. Although it's set in a fantasy world, the Orlanthi culture your tribe belongs to is closely modeled on the pre-Roman era Celts, and the gameplay itself is very emergent and varied.

Evil_kitten
Evil_kitten

@Inmate
Roma Surrectum
awww yiss
unfortunately i am struck with the misfortune of not being to pick fucking cataphracts or else it crashes
10/10 game otherwise

5mileys
5mileys

@Crazy_Nice
Every citizen's attributes, experience and knowledge are simulated. Each citizen has their own aspirations and decides how to live, where they work and if they come or leave the city.

Only thing that sounds unrealistic on the pitch. Everything else doesn't sound too complicated.

Bidwell
Bidwell

@5mileys

Not really, Crusader Kings already does that with its randomly generated characters.

idontknow
idontknow

@Bidwell
Knowledge is the one that struck me as kind of weird and maybe a bit hard to do, but I suppose it could be just a separate selection of traits they gain trough the game. idk how many characters would be in this game, if they want to extend it all the way into the iron age you'd eventually have to start dealing with quite a lot.

Poker_Star
Poker_Star

@idontknow

It's just some flags, stuff like who they've met and what skills they have.

Sir_Gallonhead
Sir_Gallonhead

@BlogWobbles
Third Rome/3

Carnalpleasure
Carnalpleasure

@Flameblow
tfw I won't have enough time to play when it actually come out :( feels sad man.

eGremlin
eGremlin

@Stark_Naked
Thanks user, didn't know about this.

AwesomeTucker
AwesomeTucker

Is Victoria II worth it? I'm interested in it but it's a high price point off-sale

I kind of want to play as Hawaii and make a Kalakaua Pacific Empire where WW1 starts to stop me and my expansion

JunkTop
JunkTop

@AwesomeTucker

Not worth buying, no. Torrent it and give it a try, it's extremely autistic and pretty boring and good fucking luck playing as a minor unciv like Hawa'ii
load game
set time to max
wait
wait
put down uprising
wait
wait
put down uprising
wait
wait
Europeans arrive and immediately annex you, gg

Stark_Naked
Stark_Naked

@AwesomeTucker
It's a good game
It's not at all good for playing as small countries though, especially if you want to avoid using silly unhistorical strategies. For example a common strategy is to conquer a certain part of Asia that always discovers gold and then annexing parts of China for the big boost in population.

Stupidasole
Stupidasole

@Need_TLC

Darklands is the shit. I dunno why it's so forgotten, as I think it's the best CRPG ever

viagrandad
viagrandad

@Stark_Naked
A campaign focused strategy game about gathering forces, playing politics to keep the army together, dealing with local geography and political factions during your march, and finding and engaging enemy forces day by day, skirmish by skirmish, until a decisive blow is struck.

TalkBomber
TalkBomber

@Need_TLC
What are some good &humanities games?

TechHater
TechHater

@TalkBomber
Sid Meier's Alpha Centauri?
It's got some philosphy stuff in it.

Skullbone
Skullbone

@TurtleCat
I believe I lost

Nojokur
Nojokur

@Methnerd
I like Verdun. You can get many stabs in it if you completely ignore the people giving shitty tips like "take cover" and just keep running towards people and stabbing

5/5 fuck the mg's and other cowards

Nude_Bikergirl
Nude_Bikergirl

@Methnerd
Oh yeah and the devs truly are dickheads. I have found so many game breaking bugs and ways of going trough the walls in that game that it is unbelivable.

Also they shit on me because I use linux and told me to use better Os when I complained about having performance issues.

farquit
farquit

@viagrandad
this

A total war game with proper skirmish and marching mechanics needs to happen

Need_TLC
Need_TLC

@viagrandad
@farquit
I'm thinking that the army would be layered and subdivided like provinces, duchies, and kingdoms in Crusader Kings 2 only with diplomatic options replaced with orders and relations being morale/loyalty.

Soft_member
Soft_member

@girlDog

I've played it and liked it a lot. The only thing that I hate is that when you get big, you start getting random defeats out of nowhere. There are a lot of things in the game background that it doesnt tell you about.

MPmaster
MPmaster

@girlDog
Wish it was purely historical instead of fantasy.

DeathDog
DeathDog

Pic related, a legit GOAT rpg

CouchChiller
CouchChiller

@DeathDog
Thanks for the rec dude. Never heard of it before. Seems amazing

Skullbone
Skullbone

@TalkBomber
Fallout 2

Emberfire
Emberfire

@Need_TLC

Expeditions: Conquistador.

TalkBomber
TalkBomber

@Emberfire

Oh. It has been posted already. My bad.

RavySnake
RavySnake

Age of Decadence is pretty Veeky Forums.

Methnerd
Methnerd

@AwesomeTucker
If you want to play as a small civ give use the console to give yourself a boost by acquiring some dece province otherwise it won't be worth it and you'll be sitting there for 10 hours waiting for time to pass.

And imo no it isn't worth it. I wasted like 500 hours in that game and wish I could have that time back.

SniperGod
SniperGod

@girlDog
There are really only 4 choices in this game
get raped by Spider Queen
get raped by ducks
get raped by floods
choose Praxians, Elves, or Ice Demons and don't get raped

whereismyname
whereismyname

@RavySnake
Fucking Militiades

w8t4u
w8t4u

@RumChicken
Why did Art of Conquest lost its charm, I played it and it just didn't felt right.

Methnerd
Methnerd

@JunkTop
playing an unciv passively
It's like you want to be annexed by Euros

Crazy_Nice
Crazy_Nice

@whereismyname

Don't worry. You can trust me.

massdebater
massdebater

@Evil_kitten
Wow user this is so cool, thanks!

VisualMaster
VisualMaster

@farquit
I don't know if they changed this in the more modern TW games, but I hate how in Rome and most other grand strategies you only seem to have the option to either completely annex a province or not.

Like, there's the city that is the capital of the province, and having your army inside the province does fuck all unless you are besieging it. Can't destroy buildings, or attack villages, or do anything to force the enemy out of the fortress other than laying siege.

JunkTop
JunkTop

@Evil_kitten
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCyx1mPZXobOxCyzO2CwmDZA
intradasting
t. hakns

Supergrass
Supergrass

@girlDog
It's too easy. Once you get big enough to defeat everyone, there's is not much to do but keep raping all the clans. There's no endgame as far as I can see.

DeathDog
DeathDog

@Need_TLC
Can we get some pleb person shooters?

War of Rights is shaping up nicely. I've got 2nd Lieutenant backing so I'm waiting for the Beta.

TreeEater
TreeEater

@DeathDog
It looks nice on a technical standpoint, but I couldn't play a civil war game where the battles are so ridiculously small.

SniperGod
SniperGod

@TreeEater
32 v 32 is pretty alright by me, RO2/RS1 had that amount of players and battles felt significant.
Plus I just love muzzle loaders in FPS games.

PurpleCharger
PurpleCharger

@SniperGod
32 v 32 is pretty alright by me, RO2/RS1 had that amount of players and battles felt significant.
It's not the same. WW2 battles happened on really large fronts filled with infantry in no formation. You can realistically have battles with only 64 people and still have them feel fairly realistic, because such small engagements did happen.

By civil war standards, 64 is too small even for a minor skirmish.

GoogleCat
GoogleCat

@Garbage Can Lid
Uninstall.exe

Spazyfool
Spazyfool

@PurpleCharger
It would be incredibly hard to make an action game about the line-infantry era without bots filling up the ranks tho.

Dreamworx
Dreamworx

@SniperGod
Are they really only doing 32v32? Warband has 100vs100

Crazy_Nice
Crazy_Nice

@Spazyfool

This. I've tried using formations in Mount and Blade playing online. You can't even get a dozen people to stand in a line.

MPmaster
MPmaster

@Dreamworx
Warband ain't UE4. I'll be lucky if this game runs smoothly on my PC as it is.

Fried_Sushi
Fried_Sushi

@girlDog
fucking Greydog raided my tribe 5 times in a row

RumChicken
RumChicken

@MPmaster
To be fair the Warband engine is a bit limited. Heard Bannerlord is going to support 1000v1000 battles out of the box.

Spazyfool
Spazyfool

@BlogWobbles
98200000
Nice cheat engine.

happy_sad
happy_sad

@RumChicken
Heard Bannerlord is going to support 1000v1000 battles out of the box.
that would be nice, but that would also require Butterlard actually releasing within the next 10 years.

Emberfire
Emberfire

@DeathDog
Its pretty good. The female conquistadors bother me slightly, though

CouchChiller
CouchChiller

@Need_TLC
So are Anime games where teenagers with lots of homrones kill Hitler with magic historicall?

AwesomeTucker
AwesomeTucker

@CouchChiller
what do you think user? Follow your heart.

DeathDog
DeathDog

The Guild II, conceptually interesting while almost unplayable and a major disappointment

I would like to see an economic, strategy, and city-building sim based off of the early colonial period. Managing a colonial charter company and settling the East Coast of North America, dealing with individual towns, Indians tribes, shipping, and seeing things grow and develop over time

BinaryMan
BinaryMan

@DeathDog
What makes it so unplayable?

Need_TLC
Need_TLC

@DeathDog
Try Sid Meier's Colonization. Or one of the Anno games set on that period.

Also what makes The Guild 2 unplayable? I've had the first 2 on Steam for a while but I haven't played them yet. First one is a bit annoying on modern computers.

Bidwell
Bidwell

@BinaryMan
Not necessarily unplayable, I used the wrong word. It's just that no feature quite seems to work out well. It's a decade old, so it can't quite be blamed. When it first came out I really liked the visuals
The 24-hour clock/month thing is kind of odd
even the largest cities feel quite small
everything is very structured, doesn't feel like an open world. Just a sequence of mini-games strung together
being a thief or pirate is basically like being any other business. Same with a church
same interiors and exteriors for all like structures

it's just not quite fun or interesting in an in-depth sort of way. Everything feels a bit off

ZeroReborn
ZeroReborn

@Bidwell
There is another one coming out soon I think.

PurpleCharger
PurpleCharger

@Bidwell
no single non-politician/guard female spawns in the entire map of 4 large cities
lose game
That's what killed it for me.

Ignoramus
Ignoramus

@ZeroReborn
yeah, it's kind of funny, very little publicity. I'll wait a bit for some reviews and video demonstrations before getting it, if I ever do.

I guess the way to put is that the Guild II was one of those games that you can immediately see the underlying game structure rather than just simply desiring to get ahead and see more of the world, and it just becomes repetitive from the get-go

Spamalot
Spamalot

@BlogWobbles
Disgusting

Soft_member
Soft_member

@Fuzzy_Logic
taking the oldest extrapolated figure from caves in Europe (disputed btw) and using them to determine when Egyptians will domesticate the dog

This is why brainlets shouldn't study genetics, you get full retard ideas like this one. The Egyptians domesticated the canine late, and Egyptian dogs descend from Central Asian genetic stock which aren't documented in the archaeological record until 7,425BP... about 5433BC. The game starts in 5000BC, unlike what you stated, giving about four hundred years for the dog to reach Egypt.

The indigenous dog populations of Vietnam, India, and Egypt show minimal evidence of European admixture, and exhibit indicators consistent with a Central Asian domestication origin, followed by a population expansion in East Asia. The study could not rule out the possibility that dogs were domesticated elsewhere and subsequently arrived in and diversified from Central Asia. Studies of extant dogs cannot exclude the possibility of earlier domestication events that subsequently died out or were overwhelmed by more modern populations.[14]

So no, you're wrong, shut the fuck up.

RavySnake
RavySnake

WARRIORZ. OF. GERMANIA.

Mod is Fall of the Eagles for Total War: Attila. From my Burgundian campaign.
Chap with the gold panoply and green cape is "Ybor" a special event based hero-general in the vein of Siegfried or Beowulf. Available to the Burgundians, Langobards and Allemannic confederation. I have more if anyone wants

Supergrass
Supergrass

@AwesomeTucker
Feels good knowing Persona 2 is a history game

Inmate
Inmate

@Bidwell
Haha, nice fucking vaporware.

eGremlin
eGremlin

@Stark_Naked
Visual novel.

w8t4u
w8t4u

@Emberfire
@DeathDog
Fun game - definitely worth it on sale.

@RavySnake
Probably the best RPG of the last few years - very unique vision that the developers really stuck to.

@Stupidasole
I think the required grinding at the beginning in the city streets/thugs bores a lot of people out. Also the combat aged somewhat poorly. Shame because the game has so much charm.

WebTool
WebTool

@eGremlin
This.

Give me a Spice&Wolf style VN about traveling historical settings meeting historical QTs.

StrangeWizard
StrangeWizard

@WebTool
what does spice&wolf style mean

Flameblow
Flameblow

@Need_TLC
My fucking brother!

StrangeWizard
StrangeWizard

@StrangeWizard
Comfy peddling adventures.

w8t4u
w8t4u

@Need_TLC
bump

idontknow
idontknow

@DeathDog
Verdun (not great but realistic in that cheesy Delta Force kind of way)

Supergrass
Supergrass

Patrician III?

King_Martha
King_Martha

@SniperGod
Get raped by the Spider Queen
Implying that's a bad thing

Garbage Can Lid
Garbage Can Lid

Even thought the combat gets stale in many of the early Assasins creed games, I still enjoy the atmosphere the 1st game creates in the holy land. In particular the marketplace encounters are cool and AC 2 does much of the first one did but with more depth (this time in Italy). Worth checking out if you haven't played the series yet.

farquit
farquit

@Garbage Can Lid
forgot link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wQzpNu-uIl0

hairygrape
hairygrape

@SniperGod
not just staying out of their turf
not raiding the ducks so hard in your first meeting that they pack up and leave
never had this happen to me desu
not choosing fucking elves and fucking up the shits when they get uppity

Fried_Sushi
Fried_Sushi

@hairygrape
if you fuck with the ducks too much the other beastman get salty and threaten you to never attack them again otherwise they will destroy you, and they do if you attack the ducks again

also playing a war focused tribe is incredibly hard, easy path to power to be happy merchants making alliances

wish i could actually destroy tribes desu

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