Began working fulltime(40 hours + 2 hrs commute)

is that 2 hours commute by bus? you could read or write in that time.

otherwise that's too long. even if you mean 1 hour. commute should be under 30 minutes. also your work should be your "anything." i spend about half the day browsing websites, talking to coworkers, and doing what interests me. the other half is directly invested into my career goals by completing assignments. i don't want to be a NEET, i want to solve problems and manage systems.

you'll get used to it.

Everyone thinks they'll spend their free time doing self improvement shit but noone follows through, you're better off working and earning money.

You get used to it OP. Maybe I'm lucky because my job consists of doing jack shit all day and I know how to game the system so that I can get out of working and still get paid to read books and browse Veeky Forums all day.

Now that you have less free time it will force you to use it more effectively. I work 11 hour shifts and still have enough time to fuck around.

What do you work as? My current job requires me to phone random people and try to sell them shit. They also want me to sound excited and bubbly.
Do you have any idea how hard that is for an introverted ex-neet?

I know I can get one but nobody will even give me the chance, I just have a massive gap in my work history because I spent the past 4 years just enjoying myself being a degenerate so I think that's what is scaring them off

Tell them you were self-employed or something like that. Freelance journalist/translator/photographer, whatever.

Your entire life is going to look like that unless you invest in WTC

I know that feel bro.

Working 40-44 hours a week, 10am-6pm M-F, with a half hour commute each way.

The job itself is so mind numbing and motivation destroying that even when I'm not at work I absolutely lack the mental energy or motivation to do any of the things I used to do.

I used to work almost 50 hours a week and still did things in my off time, but it was at a crap tier job that paid me so little I was constantly just scraping by. My new job pays almost double what I used to make, but is thoroughly demoralizing and demotivating.

My stock portfolio is moving boringly slow and I keep hoping my crypto portfolio will blow up, but we can't seem to break the $5000/$400 walls and everything else is tied to BTC/ETH. I just want the money to build a cabin on the 1.66 acre parcel of mountain land I bought so I can get some bullshit remote work job and spend my days drinking tea and pissing off my porch writing clickbait articles or something.

Welcome to the rest of your life, OP

learn to fake it, pretend to be someone else,
what did you think that normies are ;genuine" ?

wait till you have real obligations like kids then complain about being busy

I'm stuttering, have a retarded accent and am borderline autist. I can't play around with intonations and my voice is extremely monotonous, even though it sounds perfectly fine to me.

I to have-had a problem such as that,, how ever I found that reading aloud really seemed to help with it, I can almost pass for normal now even on a bad day

Don't work outbound. Work inbound and learn how to shuffle yourself in the queue. You'll end up getting paid 15 an hour just to fuck around.

>2 hour commute

Factory working wageslave here, thank god I live close to work cause if I had to commute that long I would've lost it. already on the edge right now

>shuffle yourself in the queue
? I work outbound in trucks at mega-corp, I earn 15 an hour already

Just get really good at your work. But don't let anybody know. Work 10 hour days. Spend 7 hours on Veeky Forums and get just a little bit more work done than anyone else does. You'll look above average still.

Factory working must be nice. Sure, it's physically taxing but you don't have to think, have no responsibilities and only have to do one basic monotonous task. Just repeat over and over and go home. Can't be too bad.

Here here bro

I load truck with boxes all day, and I ensure you that you are correct it is nice, Physically it is not to taxing if anything if keep you from being fat from walk and being on you feet all day.

its bad because the pay is dogshit and theres little chance to promote yourself

haha i used to think that. Your brain is used by doing the movements, you have to concentrate. You cant think of anything else during those hours.

YOUR brain is used by doing the movements, my mind wanders all day about cheeking shit to shitpost about when I get home

In inbound call centers they have an automated system that determines the order people get calls. When you finish a call, it moves you to the end of a queue that empties out as people get calls coming in. Most systems have a way of tricking it into thinking you just got off a call and putting you back at the end. Places w/ slave driver management will crack down on it, but most call centers let you get away with it. With outbound call centers they make you keep making calls until you drop dead. Not worth the money at all.

>Work 40 hours a week
Pussy

When working in video games hours were 14-16 hours a day 6 days a week during crunch time (9-12 months before release).

wake up
work
sleep

no time for in between. Fucking pussy

I know exactly how hard that is. Misanthropic introvert working as an insurance sales rep currently.

I gently fondle my bedside handgun every night before bed, before ultimately deciding today isn't the day just yet for some arcane reason.

That's why I work 32 hours a week.

You need some leeway to keep yourself from ending up as a professional wagecuck.

Why not quit? I figured it's simply not worth it. Stay home, get neet bux, do something else.

what kind of job do you have and how much money do you make

Been doing factory work 5 years now, (metal industry, making agricultural machinery pieces) It's not even that monotonous because there are so many different things to do. I still absolutely hate it and it's very taxing on my body cause I sometimes have to carry around heavy pieces that are lasered out. despite this I'm not even sure if I want to change to an office job

>Decide to finally commit to wagecuckery
>Do what my boomer father suggested
>"You just walk right in a ask to speak to the manager"
>Manage to get a 50-60 hour a week factory job
>The people are nice
>The pay is good
>The factory is a 10 minute walk from my house
>All the people my age envy me for skipping college

The only negative is that all the manual labor aggravates my carpal tunnel. But everything turned out better than I expected

See, that's the difference between factory and office. In factory you do some real work and time flies. In office you sit on your ass all day staring at your screen, phoning people. And you have the clock right before your eyes all the time. But it doesn't fucking move. The longer you stare at it the longer the day gets.

Same m8, I pack savoury goods 7am - 3pm. I live half an hour away from the place, any further and I'd probably begin to cry.

At work my mind wonders. Lately I've been dreaming about publishing a B2B bicycle magazine however I'm too pathetic to follow through with the idea when I get home, all I want to do is eat pasta and play vidya

I cut down from 40 hours to 20. Cut my income by about 40% but I'm much happier. Is that a possibility for you?

>Get neet bux

What exactly do you think neet bux are user?
Where do you think they come from?

You don't get unemployment if you quit your job. Only if you're laid off or fired without justification. You especially don't get unemployment if you're a physically fit, non autistic, non-addicted, 26 year old white male. I've never been diagnosed with any disability or disorder that would qualify me for some bullshit stipend. There are no government benefits available to someone like me, and I would rather kill myself than ever accept financial assistance from my parents again.

What kind of bullshit socialist dystopia do you live in where this is possible? Unless my investments explode or I come across a great opportunity for a different job, I'm financially dependent on my $38-40k/year pittance to live.

>What kind of bullshit socialist dystopia do you live in where this is possible?

Germany. If they can provide gibs to millions of unwashed sandniggers and literal niggers, then they shouldn't have a problem with giving some to me. And I shouldn't even feel bad about it.

>doesnt have a job with deadlines
youll wish time moved slower

Thanks for this entertaining post. I tweeted about it - twitter.com/eaglecrypto/status/908032798329581575

Hope you make it. It's not the end. Just save and invest money and don't spend it liberally. When I mean save I mean really save. Lower your living standards. Stay positive. Do with the minimal until you can afford the optimal. Stop wasting much time once you're home. Start finding a way out of the rat race. There are tons of ways you can start sidegigs on the internet. YouTube, Crypto, Forex, Reselling, Patreon, Gofundme, Steemit, Twitter, the opportunities are everywhere. A few years of smart work on top of existing hard work can give you a lifetime of harvest.

You'll be an arthritic cripple by 35.

Enjoy, wagey.

>having kids
>being this stupid

9-4
study till 6

And I still feel like I have a lot of spare time

>40 hours
>a lot
>get 15 hour shifts from time to time as a driver

Work 40 a week in a metal shop with no AC
Have 30 hours of class a week
Have a GF who occupies any extra time.
Raging Stoner
GET ON MY LEVEL

Damn, this thread. I'd just want a job for a year or two.

I'm 21 years old and have never had a job. I'm currently studying, but that ain't going to get me to places for at least five years, and maybe never.

It's hard to find a job right now where I live, most of the shit jobs require driver's license and I can't afford it. Only people that I know who have jobs, have gotten it through their parents or relatives. All my relatives are either NEETs and/or alcoholists. Also, I just don't have that good social skills that I could just talk myself a job. How the fuck do I get a job or make money?

I'd just like to get my savings to $50k and start a business, but how the fuck I get capital without a job. I currently have $1k in crypto, which is decent considering that I started from $50. This $1k is the most amount of money that I've ever held, it's sad.

It's fucking devastating to try make something out of yourself when there are no guarentees that you're going to make it. I started to go to gym an year ago and started to read books and study two years ago. I've been looking for a job that would fit my studies, but fuck I can't even get an interview, which I would very likely fuck up, filled in like 50 applications. I still haven't made any progress in life, and it's looking day by day more likely that I never will achieve anything that I've dreamed.

I've actually thought why didn't I take the easy way of going full-time junkie or just try to hustle, but I made a mistake three years ago and left that shit, cuz I also swallowed all these self improvement memes.

But, I guess in the end it's better to die trying than die regretting?

>But, I guess in the end it's better to die trying than die regretting?

That's the juice we're all on user.

I just hope I don't die regretting having tried.

This guy speaks the truth

OP, use heroin, thank me later

> tfw NEET
> tfw unironically spend my my whole day on Veeky Forums and Veeky Forums even though my crypto portfolio is shit tier and i dont even lift
>spend remaining time playing vidya
> tfw no gf
> tfw khhv
> tfw no friends
> tfw fell for the NEET meme

tfw
>neet
>nice couch in trendy part of austin
>good lookin
>have fun all the time
>go to sleep at 5am
>wakeup sometime after noon

life is grand

dude just keep at it with your crypto. You've 20x your investment so far. If you can get an appartment right next to where you work. It makes it more tolerable.

Be patient, it could take years and it sucks... but things will get better if you're patient.

>Construction manager here
>55+ a week
Kill me too

>not completing your singular biological imperative
>having your bloodline die out because you're too big a faggot to breed

ok user

Search for the Montgomery method and find the book with the carpal tunnel exercises

Spend time on /out/ and learn how to farm or hunt

I already know how to /out/, I've done some hunting and fishing and could probably procure enough protein to feed myself and another if need be. Farming I admit I know nothing about, but I've often dreamed about having a nice hydroponic greenhouse for growing fruits, grains, and vegetables.

I just don't have the money yet to actually build the cabin, get a well drilled, put up a greenhouse, solar system, etc. Plus, hunting and fishing licenses still cost money, so do agricultural supplies and shit. I honestly don't want to sell eggplants or some shit for a living, so unless my investments go big and I can live on residuals or I find a good remote-work job that I can do over a satellite internet connection I'm stuck until I get all that shit built. About $100k probably all said and done.

This guy speaks the truth.

I work 40 hours a week programming and have time to go home, drink, eat, play 2 hours of VR, research crypto icos, put a few hours into my app, and still have 9 hours for sleep.

Its your own fault that you are not living the life you want
Accept this fact and then you move on and start your new life

I did this when I was 17 and the repetitive tasks had me talking to myself within the first few hours of every 12 hour shift.

It was funny though. First day the warehouse owner came up to me and said I was manager material and to hang around and I would get promoted. I was the only white person there besides management. Muh privilege.

>2 hour commute
Take a bus and sleep or consume your daily dose of useless garbage TV shows / YouTube videos
Works fine for me

>No time for fit
We both know that's bullshit, manage your time better.

If you were reading and studying to begin with, you wouldn't be stuck in this position, so this is all your fault.

>Go straight into 40 hour/week job after getting my BBA degree
>Work my ass of for three years
>New boss
>Typical self-proclaimed, strategy changing visionary fuck
>YOU ARE NO LONGER NEEDED BYE
>Unemployed for 9 months
Stop bitching man, being unemployed is the worst fucking thing that can happen to an adult person if you don't count shit like death of a child. When you have a job your life is full of possibilities, you meet new people and you have money to actually do things. If you stop doing the useful things you did while unemployed, it's on you. I'm starting a new job soon and I don't see why wouldn't I keep working out and further improve my knowledge in programming.

>mfw military veteran able to live off benefits after 4 years of active duty
>mfw able to start own winery
>mfw passive gains in crypto
>feelsgoodman.svg

Same here, I even started learning Japanese with my extra time.

かわいいですね!!!!!!

The writing on the juicebox is Korean tho

1400 that's 3 weeks of pay.

yea but it's a KAWAII cat

This. Pair it with having to take care of my dying father and you have the most traumatizing year of my life.

Same dream, except I plan to live on a mountain where I can snowboard. My job actually allows me a lot of freedom so I'm not a cuck for money.

2 hours you could spend writing, drawing, or listenining to podcasts, every day, OP. I feels your pain tho...I'm 29 and currently unemployed, I may have nothing to eat, but not having to burn the last of my 20s away on wagecucking feels like I found my soul.
My advice: spend every penny on bitcoin, dips or highs - buy whenever you can and you'll probably retire at 30

>Being the first part of your genetic line in hundreds of millions of years to fail to reproduce, your single purpose in life
>Failing this hard as a human

Get out of manual labor as fast as you can.

>making video games in an comfy office
>work

Pick one, faggot. I bet you can't even cook your own meals if you think 16 hours in front of a computer is "work"

I couldn't get that obese if I tried.

Lol at $1k being the most money you've ever held. I had over $30,000 at 21. If you haven't figured out how to make money at this point you're fucked.

>I made my first $1000 when I was 14 in two weeks with an old snowblowerd I got for free. Made $1000s more with it.

>I made $1000s doing other stupid yardwork shit like mowing and planting flowers.

>I made $1000s selling video game coins like Fifa coins, Madden coins, 2k coins.

>I made $1000s selling modified Amazon TVs that are "hacked" to watch torrented streams.

>I made $1000s selling used clothes from Goodwill clothes online

>I made $1000s selling trading cards

>I made $1000s selling my own products online

I'm just a year older than you, 22, these are just a handful of examples that have earned me money since I was young. Making money is something you're born with or pick up early on, if you haven't picked it up by 21 you're seriously fucked. Enjoy being a wage cuck. Start playing the lottery and praying crypto takes off because otherewise you're living wage cuck life.

What do you do? I just got the deed for my land and now I'm just itching to get out of this shit as quickly as possible.

This. I don't particularly want to have kids, and I wasn't particularly crazy about the idea of domestic living or being married either. However, I'm the product of millions of years of harshly optimized biological process. Through positive selection pressures, negative selection pressures, and pure chance, my genome has made it all the way to here.

If you don't feel the obligation to carry on your lineage, to produce a genetic legacy that will go on to inhabit and spread humanity throughout the stars, you're literally a failed organism. A dead end. Whatever other bullshit you believe or think about the world, first and foremost you're just a biological organism. A life form, and the absolute purest directive of all live is to survive, procreate, and proliferate. Humanity is the most successful organism known, the one most able to adapt its environment to its liking.

If you eschew that you're no better than algae.

So no, I'm not exactly stoke about being mated for life or having kids, but I'm going to do it because I refuse to be the weak link.

trouble with that is when they need to make cutbacks your the first one to go

complain to corporate EHS about needing ergonomic assessments.

For what I do see If you don't know how to make money on your own at 21 you are very far behind the curve of making money on your own. You don't even have to start a business to make money most of the time.

So by doing all that shit you manage to pull in at least $40,000USD/year gross income while spending 40hours/week or less on all of it?

If so, that's great. If you're making less, or spending more time on it, it's just same shit different details. Of course there's lots of ways to pull in side money, but generally you end up spending even more time on it then you would at a job, or your related expenses cut too deeply into the money being brought in.

Working outside where I live is a great way to become a disgusting, leathery old shit before you hit 40 because of our UV index and 100+ weather 8+ months out of the year. Only for immigrant shitskins.

OP you are right. 40 hours isn't nothing, like some people claim it is. My commute was only 30 minutes, my job 9-5, and i felt the same way. I still work the same job but barely go in to the office because I have no work to do (I'm an intern). Today I arrived at 1 pm, left at 4 pm and most of that was lunch. Obviously as someone with any seniority at all, that would not be possible. I also work a government job.

When I actually stayed from 9 to 5.30 with 30 minutes for lunch I was spiritually crushed. I was dumbfounded by how little free time I had after work. Obviously my mornings were gone. I resented all chores. Sitting in an office chair is like some sort of cuck shed tier punishment. My balls squashed in a chair, in an open plan office designed to breed conformity, hearing the normie platitudes all around me (not that I even talked to them, I could sit next to them and be classed as the ugly loser), struggling to hear myself think, was hellish.

With how little I work right now, such a ridiculously small amount, I am probably in some blessed period of life without being able to fully appreciate it.

Oh yeah, and all the stuff you're supposed to do: exercising 6 or 7 times a week (which I like), reading 30 to 60 pages of books a day to avoid being a philistine, cooking and eating healthily, socialising or internet to avoid insanity, learning new skills like programming, doing something practical, a solid 8 hours of sleep a nighg... there is NO WAY to do all this as a 9-5 wagecuck

Also a few more things. If I was doing a job that requires a brain, like programming, and which counted as developing yourself, I could definitely see myself liking my job.

On the other hand, fuck the UBERKEKS who say manual labour is better. It's worse. It's low status shit

Remove the Veeky Forums and do something fun instead

Audiobooks.

I'm still essentially a NEET but I just picked up a part time job doing landscaping type work at some estate. The commute is 30 minutes each way. I have a laundry list of intellectually stimulating audio books on audible that I will probably never finish. Sometimes I take the long way home because I'm not even focused on driving. Today the guy just had me raking leaves (raking leaves @ 23 for money, just lol) and I was able to listen to my book for half the time. They make the day pass quicker and most importantly prevent your mind from devolving to the level of work you do.

Honestly though, social relationships are the key to fulfillment in life. The work place is no exception. That's why people can enjoy doing god awful work. Everything is improved when you're around people you can laugh with.

I don't necasarilly do all that shit now. Just examples of how I made money before I was 21, did most of that when I was 14-17 in High School.

Recently started selling my own products online through Amazon and my own online store. Advertise through instagram and it's great.

Also resell clothes that rich teens like to wear such as Supreme, Jordan, BAPE. I got in with bulk suppliers so I'm set for every release.

I automated my video game coin selling business through a supplier in China. I have my own store front and every order that goes through me goes directly to this Chinese company. I sell for double what they give them to me for. I literally spend 4hrs a month on it.

Between all of them I probably spend 5hours a week now.

I make about $2000 a week through all this after expenses. Some weeks I make more some weeks I make less. I have a normie wage cuck job where I make $40 an hour plus overtime which also comes to around $2000 a week.

That pay is before taxes. I plan on being a wage cuck for one more year before retiring from wage cuckery and working only for myself again. Fucking banks want to see "verifiable employment from a company for at least a year" before they'll give someone a housing loan at my age.

How can I fix this then?

exaggerated shit I did - the post

Already in the lottery game and crypto. Lmao.

But yeah, I never understood how to make money or didn't realize value of it. I grew up in a very poor family and I kind of got used to it, money wasn't never important until now, when im older. It's all about having a nice car and shit together.

And to be fair, I missed chances to do trades like you did, and I'm not sure do I even have the skills to do shit like that, I am not very patient. I spent my teenage getting drunk, playing video games and skipping school. Which was fucking idiotic, but I didn't really know better back then. Now I know and I am trying, but shit just seems so hard to achieve, but im not going to quit.

Glad for you bro tho.

And a little update, I am now holding $1,3k because 50% IOC and 50% PTOY.

Is anyone doing Phd? Is it worth it and how much effort? I kind of like academia but not sure if I should go for phd or just try normal job but I have never had one

Enjoy it OP. I hardly even have energy for vidya when I get home. Very sad state of affairs.