The Munich Agreement

You have to remember that the people didn't want a war. There were mass peace protests during the war, lead by Quakers, socialists, and even Oswald Mosley. All of the leaders were jailed for the duration of the war without a trial under 13-B if I recall correctly.

People didn't want a war in the UK, and many vets have told me that they regret the UK getting involved at all.

He should've just restored the German Empire + Austria. Why did he get so greedy?

Chamberlain was cheered for preventing war, it was the idiotic guarantee to Poland that was the great mistake. Remember that the anglos betrayed Czechoslovakia to ensure the Munich agreement, and yet drew the line at Poland...

the security pact was about keeping the USSR out of Poland, the Nazis invading triggered it. but the original intention was containing the USSR.

Poles have been fucking everyone else over for the previous decade so they deserved it wholesale.

>have a plan
>completely contradict it by declaring war

its like planning to clean the kitchen and then throw mud all over it

how can you betray a non country?

its like the white army saying the brits betrayed them for not helping against the bolsheviks

they were hoping Hitler was going to invade only the USSR.

>Anglos
>Perfidy
Wow what a fucking surprise

how?

"The fools, why are they cheering?"
-Édouard Daladier, French PM after announcing the Münich agreement

It was always just a desperate strategy to buy more time to re-arm, the french government had no illusions about Germany's true intentions.

Wasn't the security pact specifically written to only apply to German attack?

by allying with Poland instead of invading them?

B-but the people on /pol/ told me that Hitler wanted peace and Britain and France forced the war on him.
D-does that mean they have no idea what they're talking about?

how would that happen without Pilsudski ?

>britain and france

yeah no, it was churchill and eden.

Hitler even says in his speeches "we are not war with the englishman or the frenchman" but rather (((churchill))) and ilk

>how would that happen without Pilsudski ?
not that user
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/German–Polish_Non-Aggression_Pact
Poles were anti-USSR(but not desiring war), and Hungary, Bulgaria and Romania were Axis powers. make a land bridge and meet up with Bandera and friends and that was the plan.

However Hitler really wanted the Polish Territories.

>Churchill
>A litterally who disgraced politician ranting about that nice Hitler fellow up until September 1939

>A litterally who
Hardly

more like a blundering amateur who fucked every department he was given.

but Halifax didn't want to be PM and churchill gave some cool innit speeches in parliment and seized power

> Polish Territories.
stolen german clay

ftfy

>promise peace in our time
>biggest war in history breaks out a year later
the absolute madman

Which in turn was stolen pole clay.

>stolen german clay

Don't lose the war if you don't wanna lose territory

Dont steal he territory if you dont want war

?

Hurrr muh history starts with Prussia and Germany xDD JUST LIKE IN MY ANIMES XDDD

Poland owned the land for longer than Germany exists as a country.

I was just responding to the retarded comment below me. I dont support pan-germanic expansionism.

I hate this meme.
>Poles were anti-USSR
And anti-German.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Soviet–Polish_Non-Aggression_Pact

We had non-aggression pacts with the Soviets and Germans and our only real ally was France.

Hitler invades Poland, WWII happens
Hitler Invades France, WWII happens
Hitler has no way to fight against the USSR without triggering WWII

The Brits should have let the Wehrmacht assassinate him.

Bump.

Not an argument.

We sent a generation to die in the Trenches, a second war was almost certain to kill our Economy (which due to the imperial nuts being cracked via the marshal plan, happened), Hitler gaining the sudentenland made some sense considering so far his largest conquest was that of Austria, a country who had willingly accepted that (though the Austrian fascist politics was pretty complex), the annexation of czechia was the first time Hitler had directly annexed a completely non-german state.

The Polish border still wasn't "corrected" to Imperial German levels

No, it was the SOCIALISTS who didn't want war in the UK. They were all 'bash the fash' right up until the Molotov-Ribbontrop Pact. After this, they all became 'peaceloving' who thought the Allies were a tool of 'capitalist imperialism'. Just like their puppet masters in the USSR told them to.

Neville Chamberlain was a Tory you fuckwit

Not an argument.

The honest, well-meaning Anglo took pity on the Teuton. They honestly believed that Germany merely wanted to take its place among the brotherhood of free western nations. They didn't know... they didn't know.

Bump

Yeah, they totally wanted a the most populated and strongest nation in Europe (aside Russia) to become a strong fascist state and subdue eastern Europe and all its natural resources, especially food production, so as to become self sufficient.

What could possibly go wrong with that plan?

Except it was specifically designed to be aimed at Germany as the western powers feared that Poland would use their backing to provoke the USSR.

>and yet drew the line at Poland...
Germany broke the Munich agreement when it walked into the rest of the Czech state. The line was already passed and a guarantee to Poland was the result of it.

gobbels nazi propaganda

>Hitler even says in his speeches "we are not war with the englishman or the frenchman" but rather (((churchill))) and ilk
Goes to show how fucking retarded Stormniggers are
Churchill was not Prime Minister when Hitler sperged out and went to war

You know Poland was part of imperial Germany right?

1) No one wanted war

2) Britain was severely unprepared for a continental war, the extra year brought vital time for rearmament

Chamberlain gets too much shit. He had a terrible hand and played it as best he could but ended up looking weak at the end. He had to resign but I find it hard to blame him for his actions as the UK was not in any state to go to war at the time.

The very fact he waved that piece of paper around and Germany still invaded Poland galvanized the public to realize that Hitler couldnt be trusted and has plans for domination of Europe.

>stolen German clay
There is no such thing as "rightful clay".

>Lithuanians
>Belarissians
>Ukrainians
>Czechoslovaks
Makes one wonder

>I hate this meme.
>Poles were anti-USSR

>USSR almost destroys Warsaw decade ago
>USSR cool guy now
user, I...

>We had non-aggression pacts with the Soviets and Germans

So? That's a logical thing for Poland to do. Simply making a non-aggression pact isn't a necessarily a bad thing. What made Molotov-Ribbentrop so infamous is because it essentially gave the Soviets permission to invade Eastern Europe. And yes, Poland certainly was anti-communist during this time period.

>Daladier's last government was in power at the time of the negotiations preceding the Munich Agreement, when France backed out of its obligations to defend Czechoslovakia against Nazi Germany. He was pushed into negotiating by Britain's Neville Chamberlain. Unlike Chamberlain, Daladier had no illusions about Hitler's ultimate goals. In fact, he told the British in a late April 1938 meeting that Hitler's real aim was to eventually secure "a domination of the Continent in comparison with which the ambitions of Napoleon were feeble." He went on to say "Today, it is the turn of Czechoslovakia. Tomorrow, it will be the turn of Poland and Romania.''

Sad to see that some people saw it coming but didn't have the guts to impose themselves.

Chamberlain is the failure of a prime ministre

You don't think you're going too easy on him for selling out the Czechs? How do you explain his quotes about securing peace in our time if he was just as cynical as Hitler?

This.

Neville did nothing wrong. Britain needed critical time to rearm, not to mention that their intelligence on Hitler's military capabilities was lacking.

Yes, if the Allies had declared war on Hitler in 1938 they would have crushed him. They had no way of knowing this. Hindsight is 20/20.