The first few months of Operation Barbarossa

how can you not be a wehrboo after seeing this beauty

Well, looks like Nazis managed the impossible. Being even more dishonorable than commies.

Not an argument

They didn't make it impossible. Nobody is honorable, not liberals, not fascists, not commies. But commies shouldn't be given any benefit of the doubt by virtue of the ideology they spread.

conveniently leaves out what happens after september 1942

>stopping the webm at operation Ur-anus

typical wehraboo

i mean its not like anyone tries to remember the bad things in life

Yes they do, how else will they learn from their mistakes?

Implying that mistake have not be already did by Swedish or french

>hurr russia is invincibru

the only reason it won in the east was due to lend lease and the allies fighting germany in the west and africa

Whatever helps you sleep at night.

>shows webm of NKVD in german uniforms

>the only reason it won in the east was due to lend lease
So 1941 never happened? Because I specifically remember the Soviets winning in 1941 without significant lend lease

>and the allies fighting germany in the west and africa
You mean the single panzer division in Africa? Or the garrison divisions stationed on the coast with Britain?

Not an argument

>Eastern Front from mid-1943 onwards

How

>the italians

>>Eastern Front from mid-1943 onwards

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>losing 40k of your fine soldiers in the very first week
>good

you wehrashits are terrible, you celebrate an army marching to its death

It's like you're a parody of yourself

>1941

yes, the ruskies managed to push the germans back a whole few miles.

And what happened in 42 and 43?

more german offensives whilst the russians where being supplied by lend lease, it would not have been able to launch major 1944 offensives without it or at least they would be alot more limited than they were without lend lease.

>You mean the single panzer division
No i mean the million soldiers in normandy, 300,000 in italy along with thousands of tanks and equipment.

If the west was even just neutral until germany defeated russia, it would have.

t. abandoning Poland and the rest of Eastern Europa

Kys

Where's this from?

Bravo on your operational failure

BRAH LOOK AT THIS DUDE

WAIT, WAIT

OH. NO NO...
*inhales*

youtube.com/watch?v=WOVEy1tC7nk

*success

a minor setback

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

>the first few months of the Somme

It's also important to see equipment and animal losses

where is this from?

Czechoslovakia

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>the Soviet flag on top of the reichstag

Ally? They had a non aggression pact and Stalin was greedy and dumb enough to accept it.

>non-agression pact makes you BFF
Wew lad

not funny man, they had the chance to balkanize germany and remove their power forever and ideological squabbles blew it
imagine a world without germany, we were so close

>losses 3k+
>gains 700

really makes you think, did germans handcraft every one of their panzers?

Pacific campaign was not only cooler, it was more aesthetic.
Plus the US marines fucking destroyed the Japanese (if were talking a kill to death ratio) the only time i can remember the japs had a good upper hand was Guadalcanal when the US navy kinda got fucked but they still fucking win like wtf

T.burger

> Booty
> 15 000 tanks
What the hell did Wermacht do with these?

>The Luftwaffe reportedly destroyed 1,489 aircraft on the first day of the invasion and over 3,100 during the first three days. Hermann Göring, Minister of Aviation and Commander-in-Chief of the Luftwaffe, distrusted the reports and ordered the figure checked. Luftwaffe staffs surveyed the wreckage on Soviet airfields, and their original figure proved conservative, as over 2,000 Soviet aircraft were estimated to have been destroyed on the first day of the invasion. In reality, Soviet losses were likely higher; a Soviet archival document recorded the loss of 3,922 Soviet aircraft in the first three days against an estimated loss of 78 German aircraft

Pacific campaign is pretty boring because it was a total roflstomp for the allies and the japanese had 0 chance of winning at all, during any time period from 1941 till 1945.
It's also just Americans capturing one shitty island, after another while outnumbering their opponent 10 to 1.

used them. The German Army always used whatever they captured. They couldn't afford to be wasteful.

easy on the occupation zones...

Albert Speer was appointed Armaments Minister in 1942, and went about on a fact finding mission his predecessor Todt had started before his death. He found factories running half shifts, and factories closed altogether.The Nazis had maintained almost the same standard of living in the war as it was in the peace compared to the British.

He took this to Goebbels and they went about convincing Hitler to take production serious.

Ah yes, Eastern Europeans are treated so well by Nazis.

>small brain: pacific campaign
>expanded brain: sino-japanese war

Except, you know, the first 6 months where it was the exact opposite, and the Americans turned the tide before they even had the numbers advantage through craftiness.

Do not sit there and tell me Midway and Guadalcanal were boring.

>ascended brain
>Burma campaign

Japanese could only win against poorly equipped colonial divisions that lacked supplies, weapons, air and naval support, etc.
Not exactly that impressive.
Midway and Guadalcanal were not boring, I admit, but everything after that was just the Americans kicking the dog when it's down, so to speak.

The Pacific Campaign happened to gain the resources to win the China Campaign. Their problem was that they were deluding themselves - they couldnt actually conquer China, they didnt have the manpower to cover that vast an area.

Can Asians win a land war in Asia?

You could say the same about the eastern front post-stalingrad, if we're gonna be that simplistic. An inexorable forward march to Berlin.

still saddens me they never used it as setting for an FPS desu
>unforced diversity, Chinese, Indian, African, British and American troops participated on the allied side
>frequent use of M3 Grants
>Interesting irregular forces, like Chindits and Merrill's Marauders
>battle of the tennis court
>battle
>of
>the
>tennis
>court

I knew you'd say something like this, so let me explain why you're wrong.
First of all, the Soviet-German war was a war in which both sides changed initiative multiple times.
You have Germany kicking the shit out of Soviets in Barbarossa, only to be beaten back in 1941 winter offensive, Soviets launch an ill prepared offensive which is annihilated, thus giving the Germans another chance to wipe them out by a drive to Caucasus. Soviets are forced to fight tooth and nail for Caucasus passes and Stalingrad and eventually defeat the 6th Army and push them back. Germans repel the soviet advance once again at Kharkov and now it's a stalemate where the biggest tank battle in history will be fought at Kursk. Only then the German back is finally broken and the Soviets have regained the initiative and kept it.
It was basically a life & death battle and war of annihilation for both sides.
This shit's 100x time more interesting than Pacific roflstomp where American GI's bomb and shoot bunch of starving japs in jungle.

This is only true if you just care about land warfare.

The Americans beat the shit out of Japanese troops because they first beat the navy and air forces. The Solomon Islands campaaign was a slog; the air war was basically a draw, but the navy didnt intervene to stop American landings because they wanted to rebuild their carrier force, not use it attritionally. Unable to control the sealanes with planes alone, the air forces came under increasimg pressure from prowling carrier task forces and attempts to reifnorce them were eventually abandonned while resources were massed in the Marianas to absorb the American offensive. They couldnt evacuate the troops from their outer defences, so they were abandonned.

The "Kursk" of the Pacific happens in the Marianas where the Japamese regroup and meet the Americans in all-out battle.

The German army was crippled by the loss at Kursk, but the back was finally broken in Bagration, and even then it took half a year to plant boots in the Reichstag, and another 14 days before the Germans surrendered.

but that's exactly because Japs could never hope to replace the losses at the same rate as the americans and neither could they build as many planes and ships
Their prized ships like Carriers and Battleships like Yamato were being btfo as soon as they saw their first real fight.
>The "Kursk" of the Pacific happens in the Marianas where the Japamese regroup and meet the Americans in all-out battle.
it's called Mariana's Turkey shoot for a reason user, it was literally just americans shooting inexperienced japanese pilots down until they're outta fuel and ammo and forced to land on the water

so yeah, even at Air and Sea it was a roflstomp

You're a psychopath if you think that slaughter was anything besides horrific

yeah, but Kursk was the battle when even the most hardcore nazi realized that the war was lost
Bagration was just a consequence of that when you let the Soviets have the initiative and launch a summer campaign, like a reverse Barbarossa

/pol/ unironically believes this

They see a photo of a Ukrainian girl hanging out with Wehrmacht guys as proof that millions of her countrymen were not murdered by Germany

Yeah nice ""ally"" covertly planning to invade you and hellbent on your destruction ideologically whilst also infringing upon the secret protocol of the Ribbentrop which declinated the german sphere of interest (Finland, Romania et al) and which was violated by the bolshevists blatantly

Tens of millions of ukrainians were murdered by judeo-bolshevist Soviet Russia during and after the Holodomor. Nice post-war allied atrocity propaganda lies and slander though.

You know nothing about ukrainian history so STFU. Bandera and his men would have never cooperated with the axis to liberate Ukraine from muscovite bolshevism if the axis had in any way mistreated ukrainians, which they didn't. And no, jews don't count as ukrainians.

Also the soviets totally didn't lie about their own massacres of indigenous populations, trying to blame Germany for it, right libturd?

>What is katyn hurr

>Ukrainians starving under Soviet control is bad
>Ukrainians being massacred by the German military is good

reminder whenever you see an ukrainian collaborationist he looks like pic related

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Absolute bullshit, go fuck yourself.

Any published book of WW2 in Ukraine will describe, at length, the horrors wrought by German invaders on the indigenous population, Jewish and Christian alike. This does not make war crimes committed by the Soviets any less atrocious.

But because you're a Nazi, you have no interest in truth or history, and prefer to create your own facts when reality isn't convenient.

So many claims and every single one of them wrong.

Was this post a leftist false flag?

why would an ML be triggered by being called a communist what the fuck

In original meme there was "I'm a national socialst, not a nazi" the Amerigoblin who made this one just put a random long term regarding communist.

Nothing weird about that, counter-memes made out of butthurt always suck.

It wasnt a roflstomp until 1944.

In 42 the Japanese still had the advantage but their navy was ground down in attrition. In 43 their air forces were ground down in attrition. It wasnt until 44 that you started getting the "turkey shoots". Most experienced Japanese pilots died in 42 and 43.

>Bandera and his men cooperated with the axis to liberate Ukraine from muscovite bolshevism
>Proceeds to slaughter harmless Polish farmers in a way disgusting even for SS

Bandera was in concentration camp during the Rzhezh.

Ukrainians are literally bloodthirsty subhumans, a remnant from the Mongol hordes, I guess.
When Nazis rounded up Jews in 1941/42 during Eisnatzgruppen operations, it was the Ukrainians who volunteered to shoot women and children. Also they had a notorious reputation as camp guards in Nazi concentration camps, even surprising hardcore SS nazis in their brutality who literally called them "Hellhounds"

How do you know they're not Germans disguised as NKVX wearing German uniforms?

Something interesting is that Germans even demonised the Ukrainian Cossacks back in WW1, to convince people to abandon their homes in the East and get the hell out. The Bolsheviks also demonised the cossacks as child murderers in their propaganda movies too, I believe.

Butthurt pole

Before that he gave clear instructions to his band how they have to kill every Polish woman and child in Vohlynia. And even before that, OUN cooperated with Soviets against Poland in 1939.

>The Bolsheviks also demonised the cossacks as child murderers in their propaganda movies too, I believe.
Nope, how did you get this perception?

See:
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/And_Quiet_Flows_the_Don

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It's common knowledge that Ukrainian Nazis were the most brutal cunts of the war.

>Nope, how did you get this perception?
Battleship Potemkin
youtube.com/watch?v=Ps-v-kZzfec
Mentions that the shooters are "Cossacks".

Video I sent seems to have cut most of the part of the scene, but Wikipedia seems to clear this up as well:
>The best-known sequence of the film is set on the Odessa steps, connecting the waterfront with the central city. A detachment of dismounted Cossacks forms a line at the top of the steps and march towards a crowd of unarmed civilians including women and children.

Yeah, it's a common trope in old Soviet films. The Cossacks were portrayed as the most loyal and brutal tsarist forces.

Russian empire Cossacks were used as sort of "elite uprising crushing troops" and to this day Cossacks (or rather Russians LARPing as Cossacks) are used so. However plenty of cossacks also joined reds en masse and the general perception of Cossacks had not changed that much since Romanticism.

Generally speaking the three Russian regimes wanted to destroy Cossacks as a nation, but keep them as loyal military units.

The Russian relationship with cossacks has been very complicated. The Empire, the Soviets and today's Russian Federation have tried to appropriate the legacy that people and mimic their tactics without paying homage to their fundamentally Ukrainian character and general proclivity toward independence.

Not an argument

>Passchendaele