What are some of the lesser known crimes of Germany during WW2? For starters here's the Einsatzgruppen...

It wasn't the Jews deciding who got to be exterminated in Germany.

>implying any extermination took place in Germany

Yes, there was.

You're right, most of it took place in Poland which they occupied

oh boy i think this is gonna turn into another fun argument over exactly how many millions of people were murdered and why

>ywn be an ideal Aryan teaching your little Mischling how to swim in the Rheinwiesen with your Jewish qt in an alternate 1930s Germany where the Nazis never rose to power

Get off your high horse, Schlomo. Those camps weren’t in Germany. I stand corrected. No extermination took place in Germany.

He was sent to a penal battalion and killed in battle, and the mother was sent to the gas chambers. The children grew up without their parents thanks to Hitler's autism.

>gas chambers

Never existed

>see you guys they weren't ALL herded into death camps some of them could be useful

Yes they did

The einsarzgruppen and order police is not barely known

Muh infograph filled with Hollywood propaganda

but boy you guys sure do love to reference them for some reason

Hardly a crime, what's fair is fair.

Fair enough. Prove to me that WW2 happened.

fuck off, they were invaders

you can do better than that

Is it wrong to to do a preemptive strike on a would be invader? No different to locking up pedophiles who fell for bait. The soviets barely treated their people with dignity, let alone their prisoners. They got off lightly for their crimes.

It's like reading Romeo and Juliet with those two.

I'm not sure whether to feel uplifted that their children survived or feel even more sad since they had to go through a lifetime of agony as orphans, having never known the simple pleasures of a mother kissing them goodnight for a father walking hem to school

You can take comfort in the fact that their father is a well known hero who they could look up to as a role model after his death.

>break a non-expression pact, kill millions of your own people and loose the war because of it based on what MIGHT happen
MMMMMMMMMM

I don't think that's much solace for them though.

At least their mother and father tasted a life of peace and happiness before the Nazis came to power. The two girls knew nothing but Hell for the first ten years of their lives and even afterward grew up in a country that was spiritually and physically broken, hated and despised by its neighbors, and divided by two superpowers with the collective mentality of schoolyard bullies who were only kept from utterly laying waste to it for the third time in a century by the fact they both had the ability to destroy the entire planet.

Executing Polish defenders of Polish mail in Danzing in September 1939.

war crimes in general interest me
the axis were generally more heinous but not one side looks spotless in that department except spurdoland

Well, the best we can hope for now is that the Germans as a race will become extinct from massive immigration. At least then they won't be able to cause so many people so much pain then.

>except spurdoland

meme'd

Id rather be safe than sorry, obviously hindsight makes it easy to say it wasn't worth it, but at the time no sane person would not want war with the slaves, even though they lost it was the right thing to do.

The allies should have done more to stop the soviet union for their crimes.

Hello Schlomo. Still mad about an event that was fabricated in your mind?

dey dindu nuffin

Unless you can prove that WW2 happened then GTFO

Any sane person would tell you that opening up an unnecessary secondary front is retarded.

>no citations or sources

>most are not even answers at all, but snide and dismissive remarks

really made me think

>lesser known German crimes
>starts us off with the actual Holocaust

>I'd rather be safe than sorry,
They were neither safe nor sorry in the end, so does it really matter?

But WW2 did happen?

>2. It could’ve been Soviet soldiers dressed up as German soldiers and executing Jews for propaganda purposes.
>3. “Jews” and Communist are synonymous. To say they were executed on the basis of their religion or race is absurd.

>DUDE, WHAT IF LIKE, THE JEWS REALLY COMMITTED THE HOLOCAUST AGAINST THEMSELVES TO FRAME GERMANY AND THEN THIS IS WHY THE HOLOCAUST NEVER HAPPENED?!

No, youre just really retarded. Thats a picture from the Babi Yar massacre.

>but at the time no sane person would not want war with the slaves
your you is showing

>The allies should have done more to stop the soviet union for their crimes

maybe Germany shouldnt have given half of europe to them

>believing Jewish propaganda

it's always baffling when people who think the holocaust was a great idea try to pretend it never happened as if the third reich was softer than them
i guess it's just not a good look, even for them, and it acknowledging destroys any second chances

i bet you think the earth is round you fucking drone

they know it happened, they just dont give a shit about reality of facts and shill that it didnt happen as a pretext to rebrand neo-nazism for normies

If you can't even prove that WW2 happened then why should I believe that Germany exists?

Probably the slavery. Fully 1/3 of German industrial workers were slaves, mostly Slavs. Millions died in shitty conditions.

Prove that it did not happen. The burden of proof is on you since you made the claim.

>Fully 1/3 of German industrial workers were slaves, mostly Slavs. Millions died in shitty conditions.
not an argument

If the Germans did nothing the Soviet Union would have done them instead.

WW2 should have been the Allies against the Soviet Union and the Japanese Empire (no the Japanese and Soviets would not be allied).

This is the best outcome, but the allies for some reason decided to declare war on Germany despite the soviet union committing similar "crimes" at the time.

Germany lost, but at least tried to do the right thing (when it came to the soviet union anyway).

this is the line of the "smart" ones, it's a matter of principle to them, a sociopolitical meme, it didn't happen because if it did then they would never be able to accomplish anything ever again by default.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ethnic_cleansing_of_Zamojszczyzna_by_Nazi_Germany

No, the burden of proof is on the one making the claim, in this case, that Germany exists.

To add to this, hindsight is something to consider with an opinion like this. So yes it does matter.

>adressed to the UN in 1942
> UN in 1942
...

>Germany lost, but at least tried to do the right thing
kys

>If the Germans did nothing the Soviet Union would have done them instead.
This notion has been debunked for years. Read "Stumbling Colossus."

Are you saying a world where the soviet union was crushed and reformed with germany keeping land that was (mostly) hers to begin with is a worse off world than the one we got?

>If the Germans did nothing the Soviet Union would have done them instead.

based on what exactly? Even if this were true, what sort of excuse is it? How does the possibility of Russia doing something horrid somehow absolve Germany from doing that same thing? Not just doing it, but being the one who invites the USSR to join in?

> but the allies for some reason decided to declare war on Germany despite the soviet union committing similar "crimes" at the time.

Because Germany were the ones being the bigger assholes at the time and starting fighting with everyone while also constantly going back on their word like a rabid dog that needed to be put down

>but at least tried to do the right thing

starting a world war in the name of conquering half of europe and parts of eurasia while committing wanton slaughter and genocide against the inhabitants there and brutalizing any other country that protested this is not in any way "the right thing"

my great grandfather told me in detail what went on in poland. he said their bloodlust made the destruction of germany inevitable. he looks more and more right every day
oh no nevermind he was surely brainwashed by the kikes

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joint_Declaration_by_Members_of_the_United_Nations

Stalin would've rather let the West and Germany go at it
thought one thing for sure is he wouldn't try anything until the army modernize in 1943

Hahahahaha you fucking plebs actually think WWII happened.

Invasion of Finland, taking of Poland along with Germany, supplies in the Spanish Civil War, Baltic states and more (Latvia, Estonia, Lithuania etc) as we all know taken pre conflict with Germany.

They are just as guilty and in the very least, if war wasto be declared upon germany than the Soviet union should have been declared war upon for the same crimes.

>Invasion of Finland, taking of Poland along with Germany, supplies in the Spanish Civil War, Baltic states and more (Latvia, Estonia, Lithuania etc)

These were all things done WITH Germany in the deal Germany made and invited them into jackass.

>based on what exactly? Even if this were true, what sort of excuse is it? How does the possibility of Russia doing something horrid somehow absolve Germany from doing that same thing? Not just doing it, but being the one who invites the USSR to join in?

As I said, the USSR is at least guilty for those same crimes but it was clear that the soviet union was the real threat to Europe. Post World War is proof of that.

>If the Germans did nothing the Soviet Union would have done them instead.
No, they wouldn't. Stalin saw no reason to wage war with Germany or wage war in General in the 40's. It was the main reason why Barbarossa did so well in the first place.

>WW2 should have been the Allies against the Soviet Union and the Japanese Empire (no the Japanese and Soviets would not be allied).
Why? For the most part, Stalin was just content with what he had. The only reason why he expanded is due to Hitler giving him that option, hence the winter war and other land grabs.

>This is the best outcome, but the allies for some reason decided to declare war on Germany despite the soviet union committing similar "crimes" at the time.
Because for the most part, the Soviet Union was fucking off and doing nothing when they were invaded. War makes strange bedfellows and second world war was no different.

>Germany lost, but at least tried to do the right thing (when it came to the soviet union anyway).
They tried due to pride and died because of pride. They died a German death; stupid and pointless (and arguably deserved)

Again, yet only Germany had war declared on by the allies. Europe would have been better of the USSR had war declared on it with Germany joining the allies.

The situation is just the same but the real enemies actually get removed instead of the cold war happening.

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What part of this dont you understand user?

also, everyone knew the alliance wouldnt last since Hitler had already made a reputation of himself as a rabid animal that was constnatnly lying and back stabbing everyone the moment it became convenient for him, not only that, but he had been the MAIN factor in sowing war and bloodshed in europe at the time

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Pike

Are you autistic or something? There isn't a "real enemy" and a non real enemy. Both were enemies of western democracies but both couldn't be taken care of at the same time, and hitler was the one that posed an immediate threat. Dealing with hitler was completely pointless anyway as he had no problem breaking treaties and promises left and right, and lebensraum was a central part of his plan.

Germany is not at fault for breaking treaties which are not fair and more importantly harmful. Why should he not break the treat to make an army? Why should he allow the Rhineland to be occupied on and off, why should he pay reparations and have his lands divided so harshly?

With such treaties in place, it's no surprise when a nation does away with them and goes back to their rightful place.

If hitler wanted the soviet unions land, and the soviet union was the threat, then why not kill 2 birds with 1 stone and wipe out the soviets, let germany have some of the land and bam, things could have turned out so much better for everyone.

Fuck off apologist. Nazis reneged in Munich pact by invading non German Czechs, that’s what convinced the west that hitler had to be stopped at Poland.

Lol no. Soviets were planning on spreading communism and taking over the entire European continent.

Socialism in one country says otherwise

why would the allies allow a nation that betrayed non aggression pacts and treaties (Munich among others) to profit from war and genocide?

Hitler was responsible for dismantling the nation that had done the most to check the ussr (Poland), of slaughtering its inhabitants, and of handing over staunchly anti communist nations to the ussr.

[insert proof], and even if that was true, why would Germany invade then slaughter the most anti-communist population on earth (poles)

Soviets planned the forceful revolution and it was known. Germany should not have taken the other half of Czechoslovakia I agree but ultimately the soviet union was the greater threat to Europe and their continued existence was a huge problem for most of the century, I doubt germany would have had such a negative effect on the world like the soviets did.

You keep parroting the same points. Stalin did nothing aggressive in Europe until the nazis enabled him. You’ve provided no proof for your points, and you purposefully ignore how Hitler’s actions serially helped communism spread. You’re an ass

If I enable someone to do a crime, then the right thing to do would be to punish both of the people responsible which would be the enabler and the accomplice.

If you are not interested in doing the right thing, which is established, then the best course would be to punish the worse criminal at least.

In this situation the soviet union is the worst criminal.

>The Anglo-German Naval Agreement of 18 June 1935 was a naval agreement between the United Kingdom and Germany regulating the size of the Kriegsmarine in relation to the Royal Navy. The Anglo-German Naval Agreement fixed a ratio whereby the total tonnage of the Kriegsmarine was to be 35% of the total tonnage of the Royal Navy on a permanent basis.[1] It was registered in League of Nations Treaty Series on 12 July 1935.[2] The agreement was renounced by Adolf Hitler on 28 April 1939.
>The German–Polish Non-Aggression Pact (German: Deutsch-polnischer Nichtangriffspakt; Polish: Polsko-niemiecki pakt o nieagresji) was an international treaty between Nazi Germany and the Second Polish Republic, signed on January 26, 1934. Both countries pledged to resolve their problems by bilateral negotiations and to forgo armed conflict for a period of ten years.
>The German–Soviet Border and Commercial Agreement, signed on January 10, 1941, was a broad agreement settling border disputes and continuing raw materials and war machine trade between the Soviet Union and Nazi Germany. The agreement proved to be short lived. Just six months after it was signed, Germany invaded the Soviet Union, and economic relations between the two countries came to an end. The raw materials imported by Germany from the Soviet Union between 1939 and 1941 played a major role in supporting the German war effort against the Soviet Union after 1941.

once again, based on what and how does this justify or absolve Hitlers actions, specifically his joint invasion and massacre of Poland WITH said communist?

>The Molotov–Ribbentrop Pact, also known as the Nazi–Soviet Pact,[1] the German–Soviet Non-aggression Pact[2][3] or the Nazi German-Soviet Pact of Aggression[4][5][6] (officially: Treaty of Non-aggression between Germany and the Union of Soviet Socialist Republics),[a] was a neutrality pact between Nazi Germany and the Soviet Union signed in Moscow on 23 August 1939 by foreign ministers Joachim von Ribbentrop and Vyacheslav Molotov, respectively.
>The Munich Agreement was a settlement permitting Nazi Germany's annexation of portions of Czechoslovakia along the country's borders mainly inhabited by German speakers, for which a new territorial designation "Sudetenland" was coined. The agreement was signed in the early hours of 30 September 1938 (but dated 29 September) after being negotiated at a conference held in Munich, Germany, among the major powers of Europe, excluding the Soviet Union. Today, it is widely regarded as a failed act of appeasement toward Germany.

>h-h-h-h-he would have kept his word this time I swear! Even though he wrote extensively about conquering others and genociding entire populations!

Im not the guy you replied to however see my reply here:

The Soviet Union paid for their crimes via the German invasion and Germany paid for its mistake via its destruction.

Hitler
>broke more treaties
>invaded more countries
>serially betrayed allies

Stalin
>made no aggressive moves until he was secure and sure no one else would take action
>honored treaties

That’s why hitler was put down. Also, the allies were too weakened and impoverished by stopping the fascists that they couldn’t conventionally opppse the union after the war.

Hardly, the Soviet Union made huge gains post war and arguably the communist leaders where more than pleased with the results.

Some punishment.

The Pyrrhic victory against hitler is what allowed the communists to endure. The allies could not conventionally have prevailed against both regimes

Only possible thanks to hitler

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Socialism_in_One_Country
Also
>in my imaginary alternative history soviets would have done X, therefore hitler, who split europe with them and left them with half of it, was the good guy
Stormtard logic.

your example is still ignoring the point that hitler started it, and was doing much worse crimes while you and other naziboos continue to shill this soviet line as a way into shilling "hitler dindu nuffin" lines. Even in your crime example, Hitler is the ring leader, Stalin is the lacky who he leaves behind and gets turned by the cops into catching the big crime lord

Lists of countries where the nazis deposed anti-communist regimes:

>Yugoslavia
>Poland
>Czechoslovakia
>Greece

>I doubt a genocidal warmongering government led by a maniac that explicitly wanted to invade and genocide half of europe would have had such a negative effect

Yeah because that was the intended plan.