That´s some Computer Made tier army.
U rite a player made army would be Spartans x10, archer x5
Not 1 gen, 4 archers, 3 cav, 4 spearmen and 8 heavy infantry
not 1 gen, 19 horse archers
Ita merely a showcase of Greek Units in RTW.
No, it's just precisely one of each unit in the roster.
Are you crazy?
Greek Medium Hopilite Cavalry
If they are Cretan archers, where are their shields?
RRRRRREEEEEEE PARTHIANS GET OUT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
*blocks your path*
Didn't that game have units of gladiators? How daft is that
Yup it had.
Dude, I'm not going into battle dressed like this.
*dies from arrow barrage since foot archers out shoot horse archers*
bringing enough foot archers to beat 19 units of horse archers without knowing in advance what the other guy was bringing
An army with that amount of footarchers is gonna get stomped by just a few conventional heavy cav units. Aka not happening.
those sexy seax-style swords
Best general army setup:
2 light cav, 2 heavy cav, 10 heavy infantry, 4 archers, 1 artillery, 1 heavy cav general
Best cav-based army setup:
10 horse archers, 4 heavy cav, 4 light cav, 2 artillery (keep artillery far apart and chill, wait to make enemy split to take them out)
main advantage is mobility
some brainlet commanders tries to use them to hold ground
Buy Rome II
the launch actually goes ok for me, just a bug here and there
Romans are neat, but decide to play as Gaul next
decide to turn speakers and sound system to 50% volume
the Romans were mild in battle
click on my first unit in battle
OU' HORSES LUUUUUUV BLAAAAD!
WE HUNGER FOR BLOOOOOOD, AND BAAAAAATTLE!!!
It was what I always wanted
Don't you mean
and I thought /pol/ was a real danger to Veeky Forums... but it's the /gsg/ autismos crossposting. keep to your containment board
total war isn't /gsg/ you shitter.
Seaxes are for sex
dissing the triumvirate
this guy gets it
/gsg/ and /twg/ are the reason Veeky Forums exists you dumb cunt.
End your life.
"and the Khan continued to wax strong. And he prepared to attack Constantinople from the quarter of the Bulgarians. And the kings of the Franks heard of this, and they gathered together and they bet Batu in battle, and the broke him and made him flee." - Bar-Hebraeus
If only we were as swift as the angels
I remember going against 20 stack during the civil war
During that time i already had like 8 first cohorts with 3 silver experience
And those damn Armenians were knocking at my door
tfw 5fps battle
MAN THE DEFENSES!
SETTLEMENT UNDER SIEGE, SIR!
LOCHOS, KATA TACHOS!
My fellow celt.
I too, thirst for glory, formations are for fags. Duel me roman manlets
P H A L A N G I T A I
Just having a ridiculous amount of archers and a single spearman unit to bother cavalry
It wasn't good but man it was fun
*Blocks your path*
Umm dear i hate to tell you this but can you fuck off
I would have checked these out but the amount of DLC and the fact that it needed a sequel a year later really puts me off.
I don't really have the space to bother pirating it either.
While Rome's armies were usually made up of professional soldiers, generals would sometimes be forced to levy troops from the local population. Needless to say, since gladiators were highly trained fighters they would often be pressed into service under these circumstances. This applied especially during the empire's numerous civil wars, when rebel generals would often bulk up their armies with every slave, peasant and gladiator they could get their hands on.
Wealthy Romans would often have a bodyguard of gladiators, or ex-gladiators. Since, as slaves, gladiators had no legal rights and relied entirely on their master's goodwill, gladiators could be extremely loyal to masters who gave them a privileged life (and a well trained gladiator could often live far better than the common citizen). If their master happened to be a legionary officer then it's possible (though not likely) he might bring along a squad of gladiators into the army. Octavian is recorded to have captured Mark Anthony's personal troop of gladiators, who had fought with extreme bravery for their master.
the tl;dr is that while it wouldn't be normal to deploy gladiators in a traditional Roman field army, they were highly trained fighters so there were obviously times when generals would be forced to utilise them.
you don't need to buy the DLC if you don't want to play the faction user.
The lack of playable Chaos in the base game was a little annoying, but you really don't need the DLC in order to enjoy W:TW.
See, that puts me off. I grew up on Rome and Medieval 2, those games got one awesome expansion pack that was seperate from the main game and that was it.
awesome expansion pack
Alexander was a standalone that people used for the executable.
Same with kingdoms.
I was talking about Barbarian Invasion, I forgot Alexander even existed.
then play as the Empire or the Dwarves
their endgame is genociding the world.
perhaps this is the only merciful end for the warhammer world
That's what I have been doing and mixing it up with the high elves. Those high elf spearmen animations are beautiful.
Oh and mods.
tons of mods
Honestly my favorite faction in rome 2
WTF, Rome 2 got a DLC after 3 years of nothing last week.
Yeah, I just found out tonight. Looks like they basically ported over the armor/weapon skins from Attila and made some slight campaign adjustments to charge 20 bucks or some shit.
be me , wallachian
Getae DLC comes out
kewl, WE WUZ TARABOSTES AND SHIIIIET
can't wait to fuck niggers with my falx /sica melee units
check the roster
fuckton of shitty spear units , one shitty falx unit and a random basic horse archer unit
be surrounded by steppe horseniggers, celtniggers and macecucks who all declare war on you after less than 20 turns
FUCK YOU CA NIGGERS
I actually like the High Elves the most, but I already finished a Mortal Empires long campaign with them so I've moved on to their edgy cousins.
Chaos was my favourite faction in the first game though.
big bird is kewl
Show me those mods!
Bringing a general
t. The Black Prince
you better delet this shit, nigger.
The Greek Cities will never conquer the world under the banner of Zeus's Lighting Bolt.
alfonso the cuckold
maximum authority, maximum dread
wish i still had the screen
Is 0 ad fun?
Never played it and it kind of looks interesting
you need to go back
You can kill a hundred thousand men, but if your wife sleeps around once, you will always be known as the cuckold.
A new version has been put up recently btw
It is but programmed like shit. It all runs on like one core so gets bottlenecked hard during large battles.
Aren't they releasing a danelaw game?
those unskinned unit models
PROUD SONS OF ROME.
No more move, sir!
t. less profitable history game
tfw no Victoria
tfw no empire 2
tfw no medieval 3
Fucking warhammer. Atleast get a cool IP like lotr.
building melee units instead of more riflemen and arty
Parthians weren't Persians. They weren't even from Parthia, they were from farther north bordering the Sakas to the east of the Caspian Sea. Maybe giving two of them light-blond hair is a bit of an over-representation but it was certainly present in those populations.
They're using the Warhammerbux to make more historical stuff senpai, they have two historical games in development right now.
jesus fuck, that's a marathon of a battle if i've ever seen one
I would feel exhausted after trying to play something like that.
I always thought he said "des wahre" or truly. That and sassa, das ich soll.
mfw replaying age of empires and understanding what the units are saying
/twg/, /gsg/, and...?
who here /historicalwarbandmods/?
RA DI DA!
if anyone know what he is supposed to say please tell me. this gibberish has bothered me for years!
Unskinned? They are supposed to be realistic.
not Spartans x 300, Cretan Archers stack
You see the pure silver ones? Those ones don't have models. Hence, unskinned.
A historian on Greek warfare said that Rome 2 is the most realistic portrayal of hoplite warfare he's seen so far LMAO
really made me think
they are called silver surfers and are probably unit officers.
The autists on TWCenter committed suicide after hearing this. The absolute state of those butthurt greeks and slavs.
They'll rue the day.
A game that took place from ~1850-1905 would be awesome. You can get a small version of this by playing French and British infantry units against each other along with gatling guns and top tier artillery for both
Ah, I see you are a gentleman of taste, just like me.
The one and only time a reddit thread is aloud on a Veeky Forums thread
mfw trying to play Rome 1 lategame
every city is on the edge of revolt
if they do revolt, they receive golden stacks with merc troops as "Gladiator uprising"
managing 30 cities is a pain in the ass in general
no other factions pose me any threat at all so it's just a case of mopping up other cities until I get the victory condition that I've won
should I even bother? When I started playing, I thought I'd finally play till the endgame but it's so dull and tedious that I might as well just not bother.
My sultan wishes you dead
OUR BOWS, SHALL SING!
NORSE WAR CLERICS
This is my problem with just about every TW game, the endgame just doesn't hold my interest. I've played them ever since the first Shogun came out, spending hundreds of hours on each one... and I've finished each one only like twice, maybe three times. The mop-up simply isn't as interesting as the early struggle.
Managing cities is fun senpai, you should only really have unrest issues in Egypt, there's no other cities that are ungovernable. Just stick 20 peasants in all your large cities, build up all the happiness buildings and try to avoid anything that gives population growth.
In Egypt the pop growth will always lead to revolt so you just keep a stack down there, let them revolt and exterminate the city to get rid of the surplus.
recruit peasants then disband them in another province to bring your pop down
That's why you play Medieval 2 with SS and Byg's Grim Reality. The entire game becomes a struggle, one of my funnest experiences was playing the byzzies after having lost a bunch of campaigns and deciding to spend all my manpower, gather my generals and send everything over to Spain while going several hundred thousands in debt. Took me 200 turns just to get out of the red and another 200 to secure most of Spain. You'll get insanely attached to your generals, and BGR makes it so managing cities, generals and retinues actually becomes very important.
I played a shitton of Stainless Steel after I got bored with vanilla MTW2, though it crashed a lot on my computer (not sure why) and I gave up evetually because of it... this was a while back and I never tried any other mods. Maybe I should reinstall.
SS + BGR changes the game to 12 turns per year, at the start of each year you get a set amount of manpower that you can spend that year, divided on your various cities. Unit cost in manpower depends on quality, 1 for cannon fodder, 3 for the really good stuff. Tons of modifiers and retinues have been added, the generals have limited supplies and seasonal modifiers really limit your ability to just continually expand. Enemy factions also recruit much better armies. It's challenging, very enjoyable if you have ocd and like roleplaying.
I never liked vanilla med 2 desu.
HOP LITES OF SPEEERTA
Stop making fun of the Parthian meatshields they do their job well! Someone’s gotta soak up the damage while the horse archers get all the kills, they live a hard life
they're not even proper meat shield though, they route after losing 20 men
They hold out slightly longer than a peasant which is enough for the price, plus they’re favored more than peasants in autoresolve, good frontier garrison unit and meatshield for armies when the enemy has missile units or artillery, they’re the perfect choice to take the hits
That's an oxymoron if ever I heard one.
The jester that changed the campaign
Also, a lot of the Seleucid nobles ended up siding with the Parthians and I believe at least one of the Great Parthian Clans was actually Macedonian.
Is Baktria the best faction in Rome II? They seem to have the perfect mix of Eastern and Hellenic units. I usually run two stacks side by side- one mostly Hellenic (Pikes, Peltasts) and one mostly Eastern (Melee infantry and Horse Archers with an Elephant unit) and crush pretty much all opposition. Public Order's doing great and all my immediate rivals are crushed and the rest of my neighbors are friendly with trade alliances.
Best Infantry right there. Good meatshield to spam w/ Hillmen when not using Cataphract/Horse Archer.
Too bad you can't combine them with Legionaries outside of MP/Custom Battles
Also does anyone think Hastati are underrated? I don't see a reason to upgrade to Principes because Hastati just seem good enough.
Armored Hoplites >>>>>>>> Legionaries
Yeah if you’re a camping bitch lol
*maneuvers around you and throws pila in your back*
I don't see a reason to upgrade to Principes because Hastati just seem good enough.
To autistically roleplay by creating the triplex acies formation.
Even then your Principes and Triarii will just be standing around as the Velites and the Hastati do most of the fighting
be me in RTW back when it was spankin new in 2004
be autistic, having read a classical book on warfare as a teen.
always go out with a full army stack with equal portions of Hastati/Principes/Triarii.
Mfw I expand slowly as fuck because whenever the units become understrength I call up reinforcements to fill em up.
Marian reforms came and I finally didnt have to worry on formations as much
Reminder that the best pre marian setup is 1 consul 5 hastati 3 princepi 2 triarii 4 velite and 4 cavalry
H H H H H H E E E E
P P P
T VVVVV T
Why put the Velites in the rear ranks? Doesn't that run the risk of them hitting the Hastati in the back?
somehow organically going from line-formation fighting to small-unit fighting.
You run them forward when you want to engage
In RS2 putting skirmisher in front run the risk of getting cut off by light cav
Trash, absolute trash.
V V V V H P
H P H P H E E E E
T T H
I call it the iron fist.
It's a much stronger flank than just putting your cav at the end of a generic battle line.
I am just as autistic as you.
Its a curse.
But damn the armies look accurate.
But the historical inaccuracies and problems with other mods bothered me so much I made my own private mod with a new map, gave hellenistic units to ptolemy, added pergamon, etc. Never released it though, just for myself
Empire: Total War did a pretty good job of showing advancements in line fighting.
mixing veterans and new recruits
mixing up skirmisher and battle troop
An ARMY of ELEPHANTS!!!
waga katana ha tono no mono!!
Just have multiple stacks, one with Hastati, one with Principes, and one with triarii. Sure, they wouldn't be full stacks but the Romans are easy anyways.
THE WORLD HAS GONE CRAZY! I... I SHOULD HAVE DESTROYED YOU
homoios more like
R2 dlc out a week ago
unannounced historical title
wahh they're only doing fantasy now
Galatia vs Seleucids, strong move.
Is Baktria the best faction in Rome II?
I like their starting position and bonuses.
mfw fighting scythians
I told the Galatians to charge the elephants with only swords and they did the mad men
how do I git gud at Rome 2?
I have no problem fighting large armies in Rome 1, Medieval 2 and Empire but in Rome 2, all fighting turns into a huge blob and I have a hard time issuing orders because I can't tell which unit is mine and which is not because it's so hard to tell them apart from each other.
Rome 2 is a trainwreck, I've given up on the whole franchise at this point. You might as well keep playing rome and med 2 with mods, they are far superior games in everything other than graphic fidelity, which isn't that important to begin with.
rome 2 is a trainwreck
how do I get back to 2013?
hmm it seems like the remans have intercepted Hannibal in the alps and he brought elephants
but its cool right they dealt elephants with epirus before
the legion have no such reason to fear these beast
oh shit the goddamn romans are flying
only good game Creative Assembly has made since kingdoms expansion is Alien Isolation
not even a strategy game
Can't make this shit up., Rome 2 was the last nail in the coffin.
half of the army is halfway to hades already
thus conclude the battle of the alpine alps
with most of the Romans dying by the elephants and the rest barely got to the Carthaginians
i know people dont like rome 2 but can we atleast say that historically it far surpasses the shitshow that rome was?
Attila: Total War
Huns are literal Mongols when historically we really have no idea who they were.
Vikings were already around.
having the most basic shit like formation holding up is integral to total war and they failed
I want one from 1480-1680, Italian Wars to Great Turkish War. The transition from late medieval armies to early modern armies and the mad rush for tactics to keep up with firearms development.
While Rome II is definitely more historically accurate, I can see why they decided to go the route they did with Rome I.
First of all by combining historical groups to have suprafactions (like Britannia, Greek Cities, Germania) they help streamline the game plus make it easier for the engine at first build. Not to mention, it makes it easier for the player to keep track of what's going on rather than having to deal with 20 different tribes/city-states at once. Most of the factions are pretty distinct from one another and while you might not get the EXACT group you were looking for you do get the general cultural group to simulate your battles with.
I also like the fact they split Rome into four factions. It's a neat mechanic and it's a fun way to simulate the rivalries in the Roman Republic (not to mention makes it easier for Roman on Roman MP).
Finally remember that CA makes this as a consumer product. They seem to have a penchant for the media around these eras. For example, RTW shows influence from the Rome TV series and Gladiator, Fall of the Samurai is pretty much The Last Samurai video game. They even include shotouts to them (one of the random "Quick Battles" that can be generated is a mockup of the opening scene of Gladiator). When 300 came out they even made a lawyer-proof reskin of the Spartan Hoplite to pay homage to the film.
The Ptolemaic Egypt was less acceptable. They said it was to make it distinct but really feels jarring compared to the rest of the setting. They hit the nail on the head though in Rome II imo.
I can't help but feel the way the game was made helped a lot of otherwise mildly interested players find out they have a passion for the historical era and wanted to pursue it more, maybe even make it a hobby/career.
Tl;dr I understand why CA made Rome 1 the way they did because fun factor and streamlining.
Extra: they even recreated the Cliff scene from 300 using TW:R2's units.
ywn lead pike-and-shot squares in the 30 years war
comfy swedish lobster reiters
italian city state warfare
Lepanto, Siege of Vienna
don't tease me, user
Rome 2 dlc
Why the fuck did they even do that release more Attila content you fucking hacks
Because Attila sold half the number of units, and while you can argue that was because so many people were turned off the series because of R2's blunder of a launch, R2 still has twice as many people playing on a regular basis as well. Economically it make a hell of a lot more sense for them to do what they did.
I find it hard to believe so many people are willing to put up with such an inferior product just because of the setting, must be DEI. The vanilla political system in R2 is a disaster the guy making Ancient Empires really missed his window to put the nail in the R2 coffin, because Attila+R2 era=R2 is obsolete
The political system in the main game got overhauled with the dlc update. It isn't perfect but it's a lot better than what we had before, and imo in some ways better than what they did with Attila.
I wasn’t aware of that, better late than never I guess. I’m still not gonna reinstall when Attila exists though, it’s a much harder and more rewarding experience, can’t just cheese rush all the factions before they get strong because there’s too many to deal with and the biggest threat literally can’t die anyway until mid game, Rome 2 was a steamroll for me, never once struggled.
Honestly I don't know whst else they can add to Attila. The Danelaw era is its own game and the Constantine era is its own mod on TW:R2.
What I could do with is more historical battles. Does anyone know of any Historical Battles mods like for RTW/BI? Can't find any on the workshop
Best place to find historical battles is within bigger mods themselves, sometimes they’ll add a few in there for you, but you won’t have much luck with stand-alone historical battles. I enjoyed the Napoleon system I wish all their games had the production value of those battles.
What's it like now?
What excites me about this period is the progression in tactics as technology advances. When you research a new tech, you don't get "musketeers +1" or "Legionaries +1" like in other total war games.
Instead you unlock units that have different compositions and ways of fighting.
At the start you just have very deep pike blocks.
Then the next research adds bastioned Arquebusiers ala Tercio. Resilient from all sides but not
Then the next upgrade turns the deep Tercio blocks into Maurice's Battalions, with a 6-8 deep pikes flanked by 4 ranks of musketeers. A later upgrade allows the musketeers to countermarch and volley fire.
The next upgrade allows your musketeers to hold fire and use their muskets like precursor javelins on the charge.
The final upgrade attaches a battery of light guns to your pike and shot formation.
Some nations receive these advancements earlier, while other nations have the same developments further up their tech tree. Poland for example, never adopts pistol and saber charge cavalry and sticks with lancers through the end. Ottomans don't have pikes at all and rely on Sipahis to stop enemy cavalry.
The best you can hope for is an Empire total war 2, but one that starts at a much earlier start date than the first empire tw did.
Melee in Empire is very depreciated, as is cavalry variety.
Empire had some of the most boring faction differences out of any Total war, only Shogun had more homogenous factions, and that game took place in only 1 country. Setting the game 200 years earlier would add a lot more variety than line infantry fiesta.
Political parties aren't permanent anymore, and as you expand they "control" certain provinces (I don't know what the mechanic is that gives a province to one party or the other though). They have a loyalty system with party traits that increase/decrease loyalty based on actions you do in the campaign. As the loyalty decreases into the negative the chances go up that they will secede, and if they do any provinces under their control as well as any armies/fleets led by their members will form a new faction, basically a civil war. You gain most of the influence in your government that they had, and after a short time a new political party will form.
In my new campaign as the Julia both the Cornelia and Junia seceded before turn 100, now they're gone and replaced by two new parties.
Vikings were already around.
Do you think nords just climbed out of holes in the ground somewhere in the 700's?
only Shogun had more homogenous factions, and that game took place in only 1 country.
Withe the DLCs, the Shogun 2 factions actually are more diverse than Empire's is. Each Japanese clan has a unique unit wereas the euros in empire are all clones of each other.
But classic Viking equipment/culture did not exist during the time Rome was around.
t. Pontic Crossbreed
Well, what were the Huns then? They were certainly nomads from Central Asia and were most likely Turkic, as they are depicted in Total War: Attila.
I finally played Rome 2 after only ever playing the first one and Medieval 2 and I didn't know the gameplay had come that far since then. Holy fuck it's so smooth.
I thought they were Iranic, like the Sarmatians.
Norse culture didnt change a lot from 500 to 700AD
And Aksum did not have a bunch of badass spice-fueled goat-frenzied warriors but here we are.
They didnt do much either, they fought the himyar and they traded until currency shenanigans ruined their economy.
in TW they are cool and fun to play.
But Fun is bad.
It's very possible if not certain that some were, but at least some of the Huns had Turkic names and an Asian appearance.
We literally have no idea save for them being Nomadic and from Central Asia.
And that could mean fucking anything from the Turkshits Chinese fought to the last Indo-Iranics who lived there
This is largely because there was only one historian who was recording who they were and most of his stuff was lost.
Most likely they were a combination of Altaic/Iranic people considering the Hunnic Invasion coincided with a multi-directional spread of of Altaic Nomadic people during the 300s. Chinese history can attest to this as the Sima Jin dynasty lost northern China to an altaic group.
It could be that the Huns started out as an Altaic confederacy that snowballed into Iranic Nomad territories and absorbed them in the confederacy on the way west.
Or they could be a non-altaic steppe group running away from altaic migrations.
Another weird thing about Attila is that at launch the Alans were depicted as east Germanic people with an infantry heavy army just like the Ostrogoths and Vandals. This was changed in later patches to a nomadic people with a cavalry based army.
the alani were a generic germanic faction at launch. Then they patched them to be the current state they are in, Its pretty fun to play as a nomadic non hunnic faction though
Ah Rome total war. What a fucking awesome game.
what mod is that?
I recommend the fertility mod for Attila, makes late game actually manageable and creates a lot more build variety rather than just the cookie cutter very hard/legendary build that has to be followed perfectly or your settlement won’t balance; the fertility mod has buildings that increase fertility and better sanitation buildings so you don’t have to go livestock late game every time everywhere.
Europa Barbarorum still remains the best human achievement ever
Long yari ashigaru to hold to line
Yari ashigaru to intercept cavalry
Bow ashigaru for skirmishing
Matchlock ashigaru to secure the flanks
Light cavalry for potential hammer and anvils
All with +4 armor from armory
tfw beating stack after stack of elite samurai with peasants
Europa Barbarorum 2 is better at this point. Except in regards to pikemen and picking heirs, because of stupid hard-coded limits from M2TW.
Looks a lot like the Hunnic heavy cavalry in Total War Attila, desu.
For me it seems that if a province is conqured by the leader of some another party it will be more likely to be loyal to that party. It might also have something to do with the unrest too. I’m not sure though, I only played a few hours so it can be random.
You can sort of do this in kingdoms, both the Italian wars and the German 30 years war mod are solid, though 1648 has too big a map and too many generals honestly.
Cannons are far too strong person usual
Rome 2 also has female gladitrices as recruitable mercs in Roma
Also reminder to mod your armies to be 40 strong in warscape so you can have 20 normal units and then whatever auxiliaries are available, and using anything but the maniple system is cheating
Accurate unless shit gets hairy. Though to be fair you can't really switch them in the game without totally blowing the unit.
"our strings are waxed"
I miss playing this in multiplayer; sneaking 30 assassins over the enemy walls and killing their lord, whilst my enemies furiously scream in chat
@Garbage Can Lid
I never tried it at release since it seemed most people were disappointed with it. Have they added anything new or is it just the same stuff as in Rome ported over? If they've got the marian reforms and new varied castles I'll give it a try.
I fucking love playing Oda. Best color scheme, and Owari is a comfy starting province and capital.
At first releases it was almost unplayable IMO. But its currently on version 2.3 now and it's soooo much better than it used to be. Yes, they have Marian units. It's more historically accurate than EB1 too. But most importantly the game-play is better.
BUZZ BUZZ BUZZ
God, going to late era celtic was so much fun.
You go from barbar freemen to complete heavy infantry and gallic knights with comfy oppida to live in.
After watching Darren it looks like it depends on faction influence and connectivity. So if a rival faction has close to your level of influence and they have a province touching the one you're conquering it will go to them.
I was obsessed with that game for years. I dropped acid and played it, it hasn't been the same ever since
No more moves sir!
At your service
None shall see me
My great lord!
wait what happened? The game music give me so many feels, i can't imagine being super duper fucked while doing it
its not a good idea lad.
weed + TW = good
Acid + TW = terrible
you get too keyed up
i know the weed thing but....
too keyed up? what do you mean? Why is messed up for you now? Sometimes the music and the atmosphere makes me feel lonely...its wierd but other than that...what happened?
listen to throatsinging while playing as the saka
feel comfy under the eternal blue sky praising tengri.
horsefuckers pouring in all around my and sillykids declaring war on me.
running to India
it was too stressful.
lol, i'd defintely go easy mode. Its on my bucket list, i've gotta place dark souls on acid first tho
I have rome total war and play it from a disc....the game has to load on 3 seperate discs lol
people here say line battles aren't fun
Russia on your side or simply retarded?
too many vodkas would do that to you
it's a good day when your unit kills almost 1/10th of the enemy
I like Empire/Napoleon, but the thing that bugs me the most about it that trying to use historical tactics that worked (column advance + bayonets) always turns into a loss for your side 'cause your dudes are too shot up by the time they get into melee.
Not to mention there's no reason to keep your men in anything but the longest, thinnest line possible in Napoleon. Hate that shit. At least Empire gave you a mechanical reason to keep your men in 2-3 ranks.
irl the battlefields are too small to allow such a thing,and stretching your line thin risk getting them cut off or slows down movement
Are we ever going to get a good TW game again?
Pike and shot era TW game never
Shogun 2 was close but bows were too OP compared to guns to really do it right.
bows op compared to guns
Retard detected. Matchlocks and Tercios are by far the best units in the game of you know how to actually play these games, i.e. Legendoftotalwar on youtube. If you just line up your army like a pleb and trade instead of lifting and isolating bits of their army one at a time, then I can see why a no-micro pleb such as yourself woild think bows are better because they can just drag them behind their infantry line and they don’t have to be micro’d.
Meanwhile I’m stagger retreating with 4 tercios and I can wipe out full stacks with them, easily the best unit in the game for a decisive kiter; if you’re still trading in traditional battles with the AI you don’t know what you’re doing.
*kiting and isolating
Unironically, Rome 2 is actually one of the best TWs after the lastest update.
Still like Attila better, but not very optimized
Nah, I'll just keep stationing my archers in places where they can't possibly see the enemy and watch them land sniper-volleys on moving targets.
In Attila all you need in field battles (against anyone but the Huns) is missile units and cavalry, infantry has one job and that is to have testudo(literally go home if you don’t you’re useless) and soak up the AI missiles at the start of the battle so that they have no ammo when the battle starts and you can use your missile units and cavalry to actually fight the battle. I literally just run some spears into their missiles, make them waste all their ammo, and literally just retreat the infantry off the field at that point, or at least near the edge so they can retreat if necessary, because once you’ve made them waste all the missiles and you’ve isolated their cav and killed it, killing the mass blob of infantry that every AI army has is child’s play, just kite their exhausted asses around the map until you’re out of ammo and then hammer and anvil the isolated, exhausted infantry desperately running around like the useless meatshields they are.
K, I’ll keep getting 400-800 kills every match with each matchlock unit. I’ll also keep being able to successfully defend a fort with less than 5 units because matchlocks are the best siege defense units in the game and absolutely melt units when they man the walls. You’re missing out, watch legendoftotalwar
1 Mailed Knights
2 Welsh Spearmen
defend a fort
If you have to defend a fortress in a campaign you're doing it wrong.
Do you play on normal or something? Very hard/legendary or gtfo, it’s literally impossible to win as certain factions without defending at least a few times unless you’re one of those quick save faggots that constantly refreshes your save every time someone gets past your defense line and attacks an underfunded settlemebt, guess you don’t put any investment into defense because you know you can just reload every time you actually need to defend and prevent it from happening. Fuck off with that shit, obviously never played Otomo in S2 or Attila in general.
Oda 4 lyfe
Break my spearwall faggit; I dare you
*kites with matchlocks after eliminating your cavalry because I brought more than you because I didn’t waste any slots on infantry*
*uses all ammo kiting with tercios and then charges into melee against your peasants and slaughters them with sabers after they’re shaken from the white man’s volleys*
The most common form of samurai soldier - the spearman - is totally useless in S2
One job, CA.
It’s true, don’t need them in field battles really and swords are better for sieges.
Playing Hearts of Iron now as the US and I have a wiki page open to name (and nickname) all my divisions. Worst part is I ran out of official divisions to use ;_;
Most common type of Samurai were archers who also carried spears.
The Parthians themselves became the biggest Hellenaboos ever. Upon conquering Parthia, many hot-blooded Iranic nomads totally adopted Greek high culture. Arsaces and all his descendants inscribed their coins in Greek style with Greek writings and many of their Shahs, including their founder himself, fashioned themselves on coins and inscriptions as "Philhellenos" their equivalent of "Greekaboo". And let's not forget, centuries later, there is that anecdote following the Battle of Carrhae, King Orodes II used Crassus' head in a Greek play.
OVER THE ALPS, PERHAPS?!!?
A samurai should be a jack of all weapons, they really dropped the ball by designating units by weapon. Each samurai unit should be a bow cav that switches to yari when you switch to melee, no “dismounted samurai” just the ability to dismount for your cav, and all the infantry in the game should be ashigaru. I had a similar problem with M2, “dismounted knights” is retarded you should just be able to dismount your knights it shouldn’t be another unit.
I’ve always hated that aspect of these games.
They sorta did that with the RotS campaign samurai.
Were all the samurai really mounted in the sengoku jidai period?
No. Most couldn't afford it.
then they got PURGED by the sassanids
Believe there is a story of a commander rounding up slaves and gladiators during the second punic war, would have to dig up his name though.