Fires

VisualMaster
VisualMaster

If fires were so destructive and hard to extinquish in the past, why didn't rival nations do it more often to their enemies? In fact, could it not very much be the case that the something like The Great Fire of London 1666 was actually started by foreign agents? It would be an effective tactic, no?

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ZeroReborn
ZeroReborn

@VisualMaster
Because ultimately, until the industrial revolution, urban centers were rarely economically or politically vital. Burn a city down, and people would rebuild it.

Evilember
Evilember

@VisualMaster
you idiot think destruction is war.

SniperGod
SniperGod

They did that all the time what are you on about

VisualMaster
VisualMaster

@ZeroReborn
Meh. Cities were destroyed and rebuilt after industrialization too.

You're offering a theory you just came up with as an established fact. It is bad.

@VisualMaster
I suppose it's mostly cultural - no one seriously considered using such underhanded tactics against the civilian populations of enemies. They had a due process to follow.
First you siege the city and only then you are morally entitled to destroy it and massacre the inhabitants.

AwesomeTucker
AwesomeTucker

@VisualMaster
Burning down London at any period in time would be improving it.

StrangeWizard
StrangeWizard

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Spazyfool
Spazyfool

@StrangeWizard
Not clicking on your virus, Schlomo

Supergrass
Supergrass

@VisualMaster
An entire chapter of Sun Tzu's art of war talks about fire attacks.

Crazy_Nice
Crazy_Nice

@AwesomeTucker
This. Even today.

Boy_vs_Girl
Boy_vs_Girl

@StrangeWizard
My house was right in between two huge fires in Sonoma county recently. The devastation the barely missed me looks like the result of a nuclear war, this made me wonder in amazement how people dealt with fires before all of our modern technology and infrastructure

happy_sad
happy_sad

@Boy_vs_Girl
he thinks anything can save you from the military might of the Void.
hyohyohyohyo

SomethingNew
SomethingNew

@Boy_vs_Girl
People in the past weren't as low IQ as Californians.

idontknow
idontknow

@SomethingNew
dude lets just live in an oven lol
Are Californians human?

hairygrape
hairygrape

@idontknow
Who knows?

Playboyize
Playboyize

@VisualMaster
What exactly do you think people mean by "scorched earth tactics"?

Snarelure
Snarelure

@Playboyize
scorched earth literally means scorching the earth

Emberfire
Emberfire

@Snarelure
Yeah, how about that. Fucking geniuses populate this board.

RavySnake
RavySnake

@VisualMaster
because if you were found out to be wanton destroying cities with no regard for human life in the modern, postmodern, and industrial eras you were seen in a very unfavorable light on the world stage and politics, making it difficult to maintain alliances and trade. you would also be violating the balance of power by inflicting significant economic losses by setting fire to their cities and thus if you ever, EVER lost the advantage youve basically put all your settlements to the torch.

before then fires were used all the time in the form of flaming projectiles, infiltrating enemy agents to set supply stores alight, and to distract the enemy (though sometimes even that failed when you look at the first crusade)

LuckyDusty
LuckyDusty

@Emberfire
Scorched earth tactics are simply resource denial methods. You can enact scorched earth tactics without the use of fire.

DeathDog
DeathDog

@RavySnake
It worked for Genghis Khan.

ZeroReborn
ZeroReborn

@LuckyDusty
Holy shit. Retardation this intense can only be genetic.

AwesomeTucker
AwesomeTucker

@RavySnake
seen in a very unfavorable light on the world stage and politics
sorry hans. but no one cares about your stupid fucking cities an mudhuts

FastChef
FastChef

@ZeroReborn
digging your hole even deeper
the absolute state of you

BunnyJinx
BunnyJinx

@Playboyize
this retard

Nojokur
Nojokur

I have to imagine that before the modern era, you could only have a Rome/London/Tokyo sized city if you had an empire that was capable of defeating most foreign foes, at least for a period of centuries.

Like, by the time anybody can reach your city to burn it, the productive farmland that was feeding the city is gone, and most of the people in the city have dispersed to the countryside to look for food.

King_Martha
King_Martha

@DeathDog
genghis khan used complete city burning to punish resistance, which is different from sending agents into cities and burning them all down, combined with his ruling policy of "send tribute and youre autonomous and cool with us" was one of the reasons he didnt need to burn anything to a crisp

SomethingNew
SomethingNew

@King_Martha
as a master of fire tactics he burnt citi'es and their soldiers to the ground

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