Did Jesus deserve to be crucified?

Crazy_Nice
Crazy_Nice

Did Jesus deserve to be crucified?

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Booteefool
Booteefool

He shitted himself. This the movie don't tell. Nor even the Bible.

Harmless_Venom
Harmless_Venom

How would you save Jesus, /tv/?

Lord_Tryzalot
Lord_Tryzalot

@Harmless_Venom
I wouldn't.

The purpose of his death was to provide salvation for man. That's kind of the whole point.

Sir_Gallonhead
Sir_Gallonhead

Gotta blame the Jews for something

Boy_vs_Girl
Boy_vs_Girl

Was Jesus an SJW against the Jews of that time?

MPmaster
MPmaster

@Harmless_Venom
You don't. He died to save YOU.

King_Martha
King_Martha

@Crazy_Nice
Jesus probably didn't exist at all. It's highly debatable.

Spamalot
Spamalot

Well, it was god's will

Soft_member
Soft_member

@Spamalot
Fuck off josh

girlDog
girlDog

I mean it was his idea. He's omnipotent and all powerful, he could have just gotten rid of our sins without being such a dramatic bitch about it. OR better yet just not have given us sin in the first place instead of railroading us into sinning and sending 4000 years of civilization straight to hell for something you knew would happen and doing nothing to stop

Evil_kitten
Evil_kitten

@girlDog
*did nothing to stop

farquit
farquit

@Crazy_Nice
Probably not. He taught obedience to secular authorities, not rebellion.

viagrandad
viagrandad

@Crazy_Nice
His suffering absolves us all of ours.

So go out and murder people, I guess, because sin no longer exists.

happy_sad
happy_sad

Would he have been eventually crucified the same way if judas didn't betray him?

@Harmless_Venom
"saving" an eternal being that resurrected himself anyway

haveahappyday
haveahappyday

@King_Martha
There's more historical evidence of Jesus than Socrates, Alexander the Great, Archimedes, etc.

SomethingNew
SomethingNew

@Crazy_Nice

Yes, for fucking around in the temple marketplace in the days leading up to the holy feast

5mileys
5mileys

@haveahappyday
But none of the importance of what is attributed to them depends on their existence.

cum2soon
cum2soon

@Crazy_Nice
In this case, deserve doesn't factor into it.

It was necessary. Let us pray to him.

takes2long
takes2long

@farquit
@viagrandad
Never actually studied Jesus' teachings or christianity in general

w8t4u
w8t4u

If you strike me down, I shall become more powerful than you can possibly imagine
Did Obi deserve it?

askme
askme

@takes2long
well, yeah

come on, man

Bidwell
Bidwell

The Catholic Church is a big pedophile ring worse than Hollywood desu

massdebater
massdebater

@takes2long
no u wrong

iluvmen
iluvmen

@girlDog
instead of typing all of that, you could have just posted that you have absolutely no understanding or grasp of christian theology or concepts whatsoever. that would have been more efficient.

Inmate
Inmate

To be crucified by the rabble is every artist's deepest and most secret desire.

idontknow
idontknow

@girlDog
He's omnipotent and all powerful
that the complete 180 of the idea of god becoming flesh you retard

likme
likme

@haveahappyday
Pretty sure there is a lot more historical evidence for Alexander
ie lots

lostmypassword
lostmypassword

@5mileys
Exactly, if Socrates was Plato, so what

kizzmybutt
kizzmybutt

@iluvmen
Make a train track that goes right into a river
Force my oldest kids onto the train
They fucking drown
Blame my kids and keep sending more and more of my kids on the death train telling them it's the oldest kids fault because I told them not to get wet
After like 10 dead kids I put on a mask and build a bridge
Tell all my kids they should be thankful because I saved them from the river I was planning on drowning them in

hairygrape
hairygrape

@idontknow
He literally invented the system. He could have done it any fucking way he wanted because he controls reality but instead he made some retarded convoluted plan so we could jerk him off about how cool he is for saving us from himself

Poker_Star
Poker_Star

@kizzmybutt
so thanks for proving my point

Playboyize
Playboyize

@kizzmybutt
this is what pop atheism does to your brain kids

Gigastrength
Gigastrength

@Poker_Star
@Playboyize
not an argument

Deadlyinx
Deadlyinx

@Harmless_Venom
You dont save Jesus. Jesus saves you.

Techpill
Techpill

@Poker_Star
@Playboyize
I know he created everything but it's not his fault that the things he made work the way he designed them

Methshot
Methshot

@5mileys
Same with Jesus, from a historical perspective. But for some reason, he's the one people have a chip on their shoulder about.

Methnerd
Methnerd

he started shit in the temple market before the holiest of days, of course he deserved to be crucified

TreeEater
TreeEater

@haveahappyday
There's more historical evidence of Jesus than a person who minted coins with his name and face on them
This argument is so retarded

PackManBrainlure
PackManBrainlure

@Deadlyinx
Who said I need saving?

Carnalpleasure
Carnalpleasure

@Methshot
how? I thought even some roman historians reference him

Sharpcharm
Sharpcharm

@girlDog
being this fucking ignorant of the worlds all time best selling book

Snarelure
Snarelure

@girlDog
I was unsure if if I sure reply to such obvious bait but here goes. He didn't give us sin, he gave us free will and we decided to sin.

Skullbone
Skullbone

@kizzmybutt
Who knew bill mahr posted on /tv/?

Burnblaze
Burnblaze

@Snarelure
gave retards free will
Is God retarded?
If so, did he gave himself free will to give retards free will?
That's pretty neat. And retarded.

Emberburn
Emberburn

@PackManBrainlure
God

Emberfire
Emberfire

@haveahappyday
there is 0 evidence of jesus outside of biblical text. Try again retard

Evilember
Evilember

@Emberburn
*shoots you*

Firespawn
Firespawn

@Emberburn
A what?

Flameblow
Flameblow

@Emberfire
That's better than Socrates, which no one seems to be dubious of.

SniperGod
SniperGod

@Crazy_Nice
They should make another Jesus Christ Superstar using the Alice Cooper version of King Herod's song.

TalkBomber
TalkBomber

@Emberfire
you're literally fucking retarded if you don't know that there are records of jesus historically. there are even mentions of his crucifixion by philosophers from the time period

SniperWish
SniperWish

dies to save you from himself
doesnt really die anyways

RavySnake
RavySnake

@Crazy_Nice
If he did something that justified his execution, the Church doesn't want you to know about it; must protect his innocent/godly image after all.

WebTool
WebTool

@Flameblow
Socrates is mentioned in the Bible?

TurtleCat
TurtleCat

@RavySnake
He preached heresy

BlogWobbles
BlogWobbles

@RavySnake
He upset the Jews.

No really, that's it.

LuckyDusty
LuckyDusty

@BlogWobbles
But he was the king of the jews?

RumChicken
RumChicken

@RavySnake
He unironically started "the Church", and was killed by the Jews for doing so senpai

StonedTime
StonedTime

@Snarelure
Free will doesn't exist to an omnipotent being. He knew exactly what would happen to each of us the second he created us. By choosing to create us in the way he did he chose to lead us toward sin.

If I choose to make a robot that starts fires 30% of the time I can't just look around and say "well I gave it a choice to not start fires" and expect people to be on my side when it burns down my house

CouchChiller
CouchChiller

@WebTool
Between the lines

VisualMaster
VisualMaster

why didn't Jesus just tell a moth to send the Eagles to his aid?

DeathDog
DeathDog

@BlogWobbles
@RumChicken
He was a radical terrorist
Imagine some uppity nigger coming along and claiming God was his absent father and that you should kneel before him
I'd have him hung from a tree with a pitchfork up his ass

ZeroReborn
ZeroReborn

@Methshot
Sure, I appreciate Jesus in the Petersonian sense, but most of his followers identify him as divinity.

TechHater
TechHater

@VisualMaster
Getting crucified was part of his plan so he could become a force ghost

eGremlin
eGremlin

@CouchChiller
The Plato version of the character or the Aristophanes version?

BinaryMan
BinaryMan

@TalkBomber
there literally isn't. please provide evidence of your claims, there is NO evidence outside of biblical texts, that's facts.

AwesomeTucker
AwesomeTucker

@TechHater
You mean getting caught was part of his plan?

FastChef
FastChef

@Crazy_Nice
No, he was litterally a perfect sinless person. Thats the whole point.

JunkTop
JunkTop

@FastChef
litterally a perfect sinless person.
born and died a Jew

PurpleCharger
PurpleCharger

@AwesomeTucker
He literally knew he was going to get betrayed and just sat around waiting to get caught.

CodeBuns
CodeBuns

@JunkTop
is jesus being a jew somehow related to the germans wanting to exterminate them?

BunnyJinx
BunnyJinx

lol fukken christfags still getting shatted on by rational spektics

GoogleCat
GoogleCat

@DeathDog
Except that Jesus preformed miracles to back up his claims

StrangeWizard
StrangeWizard

Did a commie Jew deserve to be crucified?

Yes

Fuzzy_Logic
Fuzzy_Logic

@JunkTop
being hebrew and being jewish is the same
retarded_wojak.png

New_Cliche
New_Cliche

@GoogleCat
how do you know?

Ignoramus
Ignoramus

@PurpleCharger
Or perhaps he was wondering why would someone whip a man before nailing him to a cross

Stupidasole
Stupidasole

@GoogleCat
He promoted alcoholism by turning water into wine

whereismyname
whereismyname

@Fuzzy_Logic
they're different because I don't want to admit I worship a dead kike on a stick

Nojokur
Nojokur

no

Illusionz
Illusionz

@Ignoramus
It would be extremely painful
@whereismyname
all muslims are arab

Spazyfool
Spazyfool

@FastChef
Imagine the shitstorm that would ensue if they uncovered evidence that Jesus sexually harassed people or something that tarnished his reputation. Literally the biggest scandal in history!

Supergrass
Supergrass

@Illusionz
#NotAllHebrews

Dreamworx
Dreamworx

@TalkBomber
there are no historical records of jesus, you daft prick

Fried_Sushi
Fried_Sushi

jesus? more penus
lol

Stark_Naked
Stark_Naked

@Crazy_Nice
The Jesus statues at church are pretty ripped, he must have had nice abs. Do you think any of the Roman soldiers took some special liberties with our Lord and Savior /tv/?

Need_TLC
Need_TLC

No.
That's the point.

Raving_Cute
Raving_Cute

@Stark_Naked
As they took him from the cross
I, the centurion, took him in my arms-
the tough lean body
of a man no longer young,
beardless, breathless,
but well hung.

He was still warm.
While they prepared the tomb
I kept guard over him.
His mother and the Magdalen
had gone to fetch clean linen
to shroud his nakedness.

I was alone with him.
For the last time
I kissed his mouth. My tongue
found his, bitter with death.
I licked his wound-
the blood was harsh
For the last time
I laid my lips around the tip
of that great cock, the instrument
of our salvation, our eternal joy.
The shaft, still throbbed, anointed
with death's final ejaculation

Nude_Bikergirl
Nude_Bikergirl

@Raving_Cute
I knew he'd had it off with other men-
with Herod's guards, with Pontius Pilate,
With John the Baptist, with Paul of Tarsus
with foxy Judas, a great kisser, with
the rest of the Twelve, together and apart.
He loved all men, body, soul and spirit. - even me.

So now I took off my uniform, and, naked,
lay together with him in his desolation,
caressing every shadow of his cooling flesh,
hugging him and trying to warm him back to life.
Slowly the fire in his thighs went out,
while I grew hotter with unearthly love.

It was the only way I knew to speak our love's proud name,
to tell him of my long devotion, my desire, my dread-
something we had never talked about. My spear, wet with blood,
his dear, broken body all open wounds,
and in each wound his side, his back,
his mouth - I came and came and came

as if each coming was my last.
And then the miracle possessed us.
I felt him enter into me, and fiercely spend
his spirit's finbal seed within my hole, my soul,
pulse upon pulse, unto the ends of the earth-
he crucified me with him into kingdom come.

-This is the passionate and blissful crucifixion
same-sex lovers suffer, patiently and gladly.
They inflict these loving injuries of joy and grace
one upon the other, till they dies of lust and pain
within the horny paradise of one another's limbs,
with one voice cry to heaven in a last divine release.

Then lie long together, peacefully entwined, with hope
of resurrection, as we did, on that green hill far away.
But before we rose again, they came and took him from me.
They knew not what we had done, but felt
no shame or anger. Rather they were glad for us,
and blessed us, as would he, who loved all men.

And after three long, lonely days, like years,
in which I roamed the gardens of my grief
seeking for him, my one friend who had gone from me,
he rose from sleep, at dawn, and showed himself to me before
all others. And took me to him with
the love that now forever dares to speak its name.

Lunatick
Lunatick

@Raving_Cute
@Nude_Bikergirl

god damn I love Veeky Forums sometimes

Garbage Can Lid
Garbage Can Lid

He died for our sins and will return again.

Crazy_Nice
Crazy_Nice

@AwesomeTucker
@Ignoramus
@Illusionz

goddammit fuck you for making me laugh at that

Booteefool
Booteefool

@Crazy_Nice
No

Lunatick
Lunatick

Yes. You can't just go around calling yourself king of a Roman province and expect the authorities not to act. Traitors and rebels get the cross, Pilate did nothing wrong.

Fried_Sushi
Fried_Sushi

@Crazy_Nice
declaring yourself a rival king
started attracting a group of followers who also declare him the King of the Jews
disrupting the religious peace by provoking the Jews in the temple

Yes, the law is clear.

girlDog
girlDog

@Flameblow
several people who met him wrote about him later and Aristophanes parodies Socrates in one of his plays while Socrates was still alive.

lostmypassword
lostmypassword

No, and that is the point. We all have a cross, don't wallow in pity about your cross, bear it

TreeEater
TreeEater

@SniperWish
He did die. The soul doesn't die, the body does.

Sharpcharm
Sharpcharm

@TreeEater
pretty sure he got back up and literally flew away like it was some prank

Firespawn
Firespawn

@Skullbone
@Stark_Naked
Did the thread got moved to Veeky Forums?

RumChicken
RumChicken

@Sharpcharm
That's a mis-characterization. Why don't you just speak honestly about it instead of being the embodiment of edgy fedora memes?

Dreamworx
Dreamworx

@Crazy_Nice
Rome: "no more KINGS!"
Jesus: "lol can't stop me I'm King of the Jews!

kike got what he deserved

farquit
farquit

@RumChicken
if i make fun of jesus because his story is silly it doesn't discredit actual christian history which already happened

Fried_Sushi
Fried_Sushi

@Evilember
@Firespawn
*tips fedora*

cum2soon
cum2soon

@Nude_Bikergirl
Jesus user, that’s so moving

TreeEater
TreeEater

@Harmless_Venom
Every good Christian would let Jesus die.

girlDog
girlDog

@Crazy_Nice
deserve to be crucified?
Yes, that poor fig tree did nothing wrong and He MURDERED it

happy_sad
happy_sad

@Harmless_Venom
Get behind me Satan.

PackManBrainlure
PackManBrainlure

@Crazy_Nice
Yes, only to keep peace with the Romans

CodeBuns
CodeBuns

@w8t4u
yes he left poor ol' Ani to burn alive instead of putting him out of his misery

kizzmybutt
kizzmybutt

@Crazy_Nice
He NEEDED to be crucified.

Blaming Jews (or anyone else) is stupid. It was all part of the plan from the start. Blame God.

Poker_Star
Poker_Star

If I where to found a church that rebelled against Christianity during the Middle Ages and got burnt alive for heresy nobody would care about me.

SomethingNew
SomethingNew

@haveahappyday
user the same could be said about zeus, buddah, krihna, and muhammad

iluvmen
iluvmen

Yes. So do all of his blind sheep.

Snarelure
Snarelure

@Crazy_Nice
probably not

SniperGod
SniperGod

@Crazy_Nice
We did
But he spared us the horrible pain and went through it for a bunch of ungrateful fags
Convert

Harmless_Venom
Harmless_Venom

@haveahappyday
Ok. Let's agree that Jesus, Socrates, Alexander the Great and Archimedes are all mythical.

5mileys
5mileys

@TalkBomber
provide just one

SniperWish
SniperWish

@StonedTime
Omnipotent doesn't mean that God can do whatever the fuck i want him to be able to do. If not even ourselves know if we're going to sin or not, how could he knows?

TurtleCat
TurtleCat

@StonedTime
Humans are not robots, dumbass

eGremlin
eGremlin

@BinaryMan
A collection of half a dozen of texts depicting the life and works of Jesus Christ, all from different authors yet coherent and without contradictions.
Somehow that isn't valid because muh atheism
Stop.

StrangeWizard
StrangeWizard

@Crazy_Nice

Jesus Christ is Lucifer, the Devil, and Satan.
Earned it and deserved it. Holy Ghostwriter
Says the proof is in Veeky Forums hate postings.
Universal, same yesterday, same today.
So yes Jesus deserved being crucified.

Stupidasole
Stupidasole

@Crazy_Nice
under roman law, yes

viagrandad
viagrandad

@eGremlin
A collection of half a dozen of texts depicting the life and works of Jesus Christ, all heavily copied, editted and re-editted.
all by people with a clear agenda to propagandize their shitty little cult
Somehow that is valid evidence because muh religion
Stop.

cum2soon
cum2soon

@StrangeWizard
Fuck you Shaytan
You're Iblis of Jinn

PurpleCharger
PurpleCharger

@Crazy_Nice
It was all part of the plan. Since jewish laws didn't really apply to Roman Judae and since he didn't do or advocate anything that might be against roman law he didn't deserve it.

Garbage Can Lid
Garbage Can Lid

@BinaryMan
What part didn't you understand?

happy_sad
happy_sad

Jesus wasn't crucified though.

likme
likme

@eGremlin
yet coherent and without contradictions.

Sharpcharm
Sharpcharm

@Crazy_Nice
No he didn't. But that's irrelevant

Need_TLC
Need_TLC

@hairygrape
It's because he doesn't break the rules he set. If he did then satan wouldve won (forced God to mess with his own creation to fix what satan did)

Boy_vs_Girl
Boy_vs_Girl

@Garbage Can Lid
The part where you claim that the Holy Word is a lie without bothering to back it up with some evidence, after spergin out pn some guy for doing the same

kizzmybutt
kizzmybutt

@likme
you really are a funny guy

Methnerd
Methnerd

@Boy_vs_Girl
It is a literary device known as sarcasm

Skullbone
Skullbone

@likme
One of the reasons the New testament isconsidered proof of the historicity of Jesus is the internal coherence of the four books, and the fact that they don't contradict each other

Emberburn
Emberburn

@Harmless_Venom
Go back to your awful board

Spamalot
Spamalot

@Skullbone
t. Homeschooled

RavySnake
RavySnake

@Spamalot
t. not schooled at all

Supergrass
Supergrass

@hairygrape
he controls reality but instead he made some retarded convoluted plan so we could jerk him off about how cool he is for saving us from himself

He's saving you from your treason against Pharaoh.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hem96KPL0_8

Bidwell
Bidwell

@Skullbone
The four Gospels differ considerably. Have you never made ANY comparisons?
Matthew and Luke give two contradictory genealogies for Joseph.
Many more can be found here:
https://infidels.org/library/modern/paul_carlson/nt_contradictions.html

Nojokur
Nojokur

@Bidwell
wtf i'm atheist now

takes2long
takes2long

@Bidwell
The gospels were written by man, due to the fallibility of memory, there are bound to be errors. The gospel authors also could have added to the account (tale of Lazarus for instance ) But if you study the words out of Jesus's mouth you fill find no contradictions.

TurtleCat
TurtleCat

@Supergrass
I hate this picture so much. Neither the meter nor the second was invented so the comparison is extremely retarded

BinaryMan
BinaryMan

@TurtleCat
he's a mentally damaged schizo, just ignore him

Stupidasole
Stupidasole

@TurtleCat
@BinaryMan

Neither the meter nor the second was invented so the comparison is extremely retarded

Yeah, that's why they're called gods.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-ZjzGVF5m3E

MPmaster
MPmaster

@takes2long
out of Jesus's mouth you fill find no contradictions.
But we only have flawed, editted, copied, altered and embellished versions of those words.

kizzmybutt
kizzmybutt

@MPmaster
Well, the gist of his message makes a whole lot of sense. Even with the watered down version we do have, he still espouses an idealistic morality with principles of altruistic love, divine justice and divine mercy.

Playboyize
Playboyize

@Crazy_Nice
Literally starts an uprising claiming to be the leader of a bunch of sand niggers who don't want to pay taxes because muh religion
Why the hell shouldn't he have been crucified?

New_Cliche
New_Cliche

@kizzmybutt
an idealistic morality with principles of altruistic love, divine justice and divine mercy
But you don't know which parts are Jesus talking and which parts Paul or Luke or God knows who.
Also, you don't need Jesus to adhere to those moral principles.

Booteefool
Booteefool

@Playboyize
Why the hell shouldn't he have been crucified?

Because you'll spend eternity in hell for treason against the Lord - where such sewer rats as Moses' followers belong.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hem96KPL0_8

Emberburn
Emberburn

@TurtleCat
Neither the meter nor the second was invented
Nigga wut?

haveahappyday
haveahappyday

@Skullbone
There are only 4 gospels

t. Constantine

Dreamworx
Dreamworx

@SniperWish
kek

farquit
farquit

@New_Cliche
Jesus made a thread about it on /x/ a few years ago

Booteefool
Booteefool

@RumChicken
He did raise from the death after 3 days according to Christian mythology and the Apostles were like WTF, haven't you read your Scripture?

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