Does anyone else find the history of pederasty really fascinating from a documentation perspective...

Does anyone else find the history of pederasty really fascinating from a documentation perspective? Obviously jokes aside about wanting to be into it just to look at academically approved shota porn it's an immensely fascinating subject. Especially the cultures where they encouraged the young men under the guidance of an older man to act effeminately. Perhaps it's just the contradiction of the modern notion of military being so masculine combined with effeminate behaviors. To think at one point in time there were people who though "Son, it's time you become a man. Now put on this skirt and practice your cute giggles.".

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Honestly its greek degeneracy, 1453 best year of my life.

It's pretty fucking disgusting to think this behavior was ever tolerated and makes you worry for the future with all the "sexual liberation" shit.

This, men should be men women should be women.

It is quite natural. Male-on-male sexual act is a major and natural act of domination/submission in ape hierarchy.

>superiors take advantage of your youth
>dress you as a girl
>rape you every night
>1000 years later some faggot OP talks about how he guided me and it was a right of passage and not abuse

Its still a disgusting habit, it forces a boy into a girls role I can't believe that this would produce well functioning men later when they grow up.

It's not about producing well adjusted men. It's about putting your dick somewhere. It's been a part of tons of cultures, for many different reasons. Just because you don't agree with it, doesn't make it wrong. It just means you have a different cultural view. People are different all over the world, imagine that.

Nigga there are women where you can put your dick into why would you ruin a boy's life by being a perverse pedo?
I really don't care about other cultural views honestly when it has a bad consequence its bad.

Still, overwhelming majority of cultures considered homosex acceptable, but assumed that the one who got penis in his anus the lowest possible man, not a man at all. Just like our ape cousins do.

If a boy doesn't belong to a prominent family, or some filthy slave or a denizen of pillaged village or town - who the fuck cares?

But who are you to decide if the consequences are bad? Spartan boys were raped by their trainers and actively participated in male on male sex. All of them lived together, it was a way to build comradery. You fight harder if you care about the dude next you to. Not saying that was the case for every culture, but there were reasons for it. Even if that reason was perverse.
Rape is about power, homosexual acts are not. Plenty of cultures practiced male on male sex, just for the hell of it. Roman's rarely bathed, yet went to bathhouses all the time. What do you think all the men did in there? Stood around and talked about the empire?

I don't care if men fuck each other I'm concerned about young boys getting molested and having it be considered acceptable.

Romans had very usual ideas about homosexuality: it was a wee bit immoral to fuck someone in the ass (well, noone cared if it's some slave and not another patrician), and absolutely humiliating and terrible if you are fucked in the ass.

But why are you concerned? It's history, they had different views of sexuality than you do.
That's fair I suppose.

Depending on the culture people cared about their neighbours and neighbourhood in general.

So the greeks needed sex to bond is that what you mean?
Wasn't it enough to bond like most men do nowadays?

>implying turks did not jumped right over on that train and enjoy the dick carrousel to this day

Have you ever served in the military? It's rampant with homosexuality. The first few days of basic, everyone tries to jerk off quietly. By the end of the second week guys openly jerk off in communal showers and have found the gay dude in the unit to sneak off with. It's the same thing as slapping your quarterback on the ass. It's just a bro thing. It's not *needed* but is a common practice in team situations.

Only happened in the palace commoners and sipahis be them muslim or christian wouldn't do that shit.

Several warrior cultures thought that men fighting who shared bonds of love or commitment would fight harder to show off to their lovers. Also it was usually implied that male on male relationships had a purity to them because of it being two men whereas women have historically been seen as impure and filthy by comparison.

This was before the predominance of monotheistic faiths that condemned acts of sex without their permission which vilified the acts that most people up until then had really just thought of as being another way of expressing love regardless of gender.

The only situation in which moderate "pederasty" would be appropriate is in programs to raise domesticated humans.

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