How did heavily armored armies of late medieval Europe constantly get BTFO'd by lightly armored ottoman armies and slave troops?
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How did heavily armored armies of late medieval Europe constantly get BTFO'd by lightly armored ottoman armies and...
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Angel Wilson
rugged terrain
heat
bad leadership
the ottomans were well trained
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Jack Bennett
about the Battle of Nicopolis was a compilation of rugged terrain (the Ottomans had a way better position) and bad leadership (the crusaders had a lot of different armies and leaders, and they didnt get a long very well).
Nicholas Robinson
Never underestimate the ability of French heavy cavalry to totally blow a battle.
Sebastian Young
Plated mail with heavy horse armour and shields is very good armour.
There are Ottoman reports about knights being very difficult to kill thanks to their armour.
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Bentley Garcia
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Tyler Bell
European armies were private affairs with lords rallying their own lands and then combining their armies with their neighbors, it’s incredibly inefficient and it allows the ottomans to divide and conquer Eastern Europe because the ottomans are a professional standing army, their entire society is built to support this army and everything about their culture and strategy was war, war, and more war. The ottomans has the most professional military in the world and were the greatest army of all time at sieging european castles; ottomans basically perfected the siege and ended the age of castles.
Make no mistake, the ottomans were the real deal, it’s no surprise they were so successful at war because that’s literally the entire point of their society, it can do nothing else but go to war really well so that’s what they did for hundreds of years. They had very little to contribute culturally or scientifically but they were damn good at knocking down walls and their organizational and logistical capacity far outshined the divided, multipolar european power dynamic.
Jaxon Davis
>that spanish flag
Triggered
Luke Bell
The term "Slave Soldier" is highly misleading since the Kapikulu were the elite of the Ottoman Empire.
Jordan Sanchez
That's Le Bon Chevalier single-handedly defending the bridge against Sancho scum.
Luke Sullivan
At nicopolis specifically the ottomans were making spikes and dug trench to halt the french cavalry charge and the french being french just charged right through it the absolute madman, the turjs also placed their bashi bazouks ( bandits and criminal basically) in the front to absorb the impact of the cavalry charge while their elite janissary stood in the back to prevent the infantry lines from breaking
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Ian Morris
> How did heavily armored armies of late medieval Europe constantly get BTFO'd by lightly armored ottoman armies and slave troops?
Dude, the Ottomans had more heavy cavalry than the Europeans in basically all their engagements.
> ottomans basically perfected the siege and ended the age of castles
lmfaofofofo
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Jacob Reed
For every siege you can quote via Wikipedia that the ottomans failed or performed poorly in, you can find 10 sieges where they dominated. Keep cherrypicking the maps don’t lie.
Joshua Murphy
> For every siege you can quote via Wikipedia that the ottomans failed or performed poorly in, you can find 10 sieges where they dominated.
No, it is more like 1 to 1 with major sieges.
Eli Howard
>A battle in which the spanish men at arms buttfucked the french army
>French has to made up fantasies about a knight to save the dignity.
ohhh never change,
Adrian Flores
bullets>damascus steel>plate armour
Jace Powell
Why were European powers so bad at fighting the Ottomans,
Did they really fear the Turkish warrior?
Brody Mitchell
Well the ottomans had superior logistics, training and knowledge of the area.
Also they adopted firearms earlier which gave them an edge.
The crusaders were also disunited and the French were often arrogant which cost them many battles.
Also
>that time when ottoman camp staff beat back an offensive on their camp with pots and pans
Dylan Edwards
Is there any way the Crusaders could have won?
Aaron White
> Also they adopted firearms earlier which gave them an edge.
That is a meme, Europeans adopted firearms decades before the Ottomans, in fact, Ottomans largely imported their firearms and artillery experts as late as the 1510s, it is only in the 16th century where they experience the upper hand, but Europe again overtakes them by the 1590s.
Read into the primary sources for the Long War and especially battle of Sisak to see just how much the Ottomans were lagging behind by the 1590s.
> Is there any way the Crusaders could have won?
Not being retarded would help them a lot, as they were close to winning both Nicopolis and Varna.
William Walker
That kind of armour was worn at the very end of the 15th and the early 16th century. It wouldn't be representative of the Battle of Nicopolis where the armour worn would have been still transitional and not that different from what the Ottomans were wearing.
James Moore
I believe he's referring to Janissaries.
Brayden Williams
mostly it was centralised command and 7-1 numerical superiority
James Reed
this is literal crap m8, may a kurd shit on you
Juan Perez
Ottomans were outnumbered at both Nicopolis and Varna.
Caleb Morales
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Noah Hill
but the ottomans were at their peak in the 17th century.
Josiah Stewart
The Janissaries are part of the Kapikulu.
Kapikulu means "Door Slaves," and refers to armies under the personal command of the Ottoman Padishah.
As opposed to the feudal troops
Gavin Morris
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Samuel Ramirez
Because the turks had functional tactics and discipline, something which kept eluding European armies up until the late 17th century.
Grayson Russell
Don't forget the Song of Roland. The French got so btfo'd by a bunch of Basque hillfolk that they had to pretend it was the Saracen horde just so everyone else would stop laughing at them.
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Jeremiah Robinson
>got so btfo'd
In reality, the French came in Iberia, BTFO'd the Sarasins*, and captured Pampeluna from the Basques who then ambushed the French rearguard, the said Basques were then crushed.
In the Song of Roland, the French still crushed the Basque, but the rearguard was slaughtered because Roland did not wish to be called a coward and tarnish the reputation of his clan and his country, however, Roland still managed to single-handedly kill several thousand of Moors, and the remaining 100 000+ Moors were so frightened that they didn't dare to engage in close-combat and instead killed him using with distance weapons.
That being said, the Song has a good ending since Ganelon** was dismembered(using horses) after losing a judiciary duel.
*Sarasin(term used in the Song of Roland) just mean "shitskin, darkie" so it may indicate Blacks, Arabs, Basques, Moors, Turks, and so on.
**the traitor who caused the death of Roland and co.
Lucas King
> Ottomans were outnumbered at both Nicopolis and Varna.
No, the numbers were similar.
and then you fail
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