Is it safe to say that Jungian psychology is just a form of spirituality...

Is it safe to say that Jungian psychology is just a form of spirituality? We know Jung was a Crypto-Gnostic who's beliefs in Alchemy greatly shaped his work.

Most people think so yes, especially in academia.

he was a doctor who found that letting patients explore spiritual beliefs was benefitial for their treatment

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What about his own deeply spiritual beliefs? No doubt that shaped his practice.

from what I´ve read he was a bit partial to the catholic church, he was very interested in oriental religions but pointed out that they could be psychically toxic to westerners

What he mean that it would be toxic for westerners? ( am brainlet)

the fact that in his time some rich europeans were "searching for answers" in yoga, for example, without a clue while discarding their own cultures spiritual heritage. Google Jung on kundalini yoga for more.

Jung was a snake oil salesman, he is almost single-handedly responsible for the New Age movement, and for the extremely poor reputation psychiatry has to this very day.

You misspelled "Freud".

What do european have besides christianism and unauthentic neopaganisms?
If they are not satisfied with christianism then they have basically nothing else locally, so I find that weird when people critize westerners i search of spirituality to be prone to orientalism.

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Esoteric Western Tradition, Deism, Hermeticism, Alchemy. Christianity itself comes in very diverse variants .

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He beat me to it.

Seriously user you're just demonstrating a COLOSSAL amount of ignorance.

you can hardly blame him for new age when he spoke against theosophy and he also warned against the use of drugs in psychiatry

How exactly? Also Neoplatonism and Gnosticism.

>single-handedly responsible for the New Age movement

The majority of new age practice and metaphysics own a great deal to theosophy and spiritualism of the nineteenth century. Sure, there are Jungian elements in new age (archetypes, emphasis and synchronicities and dreams. collective unconscious), but to say that Jung alone is responsible is wrong.

If you want to blame someone that hard for the new age, start with Swedenborg.

Good book on new age, its influences, roots, and history is "New Age Religión and Western Culture: Esotericism in the Mirror of Secular Thought" by Wouter Hanegraaff.

>christianism
Look at this way.Christianity alone can be interpret it as another manifestation of European paganism among other things.

I'm talking about stating there is no tradition of spiritualism in the West.

Oh. Gotcha.

Has anyone read Miguel Serrano? He was a huge fan of Jung.

Deism is hardly a spirituality, and all of these are pretty much dead traditions who are pretty much only vaguely followed by new-age or theosophy tier groups.


Not that most western groups trying to follow an eastern religion are often better but at least real eastern religions are solid alternatives to christianism, unlike basically everything non-christians with anothee "western" religion or spirituality try to make up.


I wonder why western non-christians are more interrested by thousands of years living traditions and real philosophy around these than 200 years old crowley new age shit, lesbian wiccanism and "odinism".

You obviously have no idea what you are talking about. The Catholic church has a deeply spiritual side from Hermetic monks who spend all of their time in isolation to spiritual students of Cardinal von Balthazar and Adrienne von Speyer studying at the Casa von Balthasar in Rome.

Wake up.

>Deism is hardly spirituality
Fair enough. It is a metaphysical outlook though.
>all of these are pretty much dead traditions
Objectively false. They have been continuously practiced and built upon for centuries by a significant minority of people.
>200 years old crowley new age shit, lesbian wiccanism and "odinism".
All of the sects named and
date back to the Middle Ages. It's fine if you prefer orientalism to Occidentilism but to act as though those traditions are only 200 years old, or start with crowley, demonstrates a lack of knowledge.

> You must never forget that India is a very peculiar country. The primitive man has lived there since time immemorial and has grown up in absolute continuity. We have not grown up in continuity. We were cut off from our roots. Moreover the Hindu is a very different race. Not only is it Aryan but there is a great deal of the aboriginal influence of Dravidism. Therefore there are very old chthonic things in the tantric yoga. So we must admit that this particular yoga philosophy is strange to our very blood, and whatever we may experience will take an entirely different turn. We can never take those forms over literally. That would be a terrible mistake, for to us they are artificial processes.

They date back much farther than the middle ages. For instance the Gnostic tradition was more widespread in the first centuries after Christ than any other strain of Christianity. Look at the Nag Hammadi texts.

Not to mention Hermeticism which goes all the way back to Ancient Egypt and likely even beyond that.

This is why Miguel Serrano really loved Jung. They both believed in race as a very powerful thing. "Memory of the Blood" "Collective Unconscious" etc...