What is the best martial art for a bodybuilder?

>if your size doesn't intimidate an aggressive individual then he's probably someone you don't want to fuck with.
Alternatively, he's just an angry guy who has no idea what he's doing

>none of them.

Mass doesn't help any martial art.
You can out muscle techniques in combat (real life), But for learning martial arts it sucks.

Strength does.

Whatever martial art you pick, make sure it focuses on technical skill.

>FOCUS ON A MARTIAL ART.
Not lifting..

Judo and shotokan!

Jiu jitsu or judo

BJJ, being strong is very helpful

None really... Maybe wrestling if you count that. That being said doesn't mean you can't do and excel at a martial art. BJJ and boxing are great. Most places your fist class if free go try it and see if you like it. I could only assume that it'd cut into you gains though.

>I've never been a fight the post

> Boxing
> Losing to Judo

Haven't you heard? It's 2017.

greco roman

none. Bodybuilding is about training your body in the least efficient manner possible for function.

>taking a street fight to the ground

enjoy getting curbstomped, nigger

You could look into Kendo.

>grappling in the street
>ground and pound in the street
>kicking in civilian clothes in the street
Lol dumb nigga never been in a fight in his life

Wrestling for gainz greco roman is more raw but still. wrestling takes the top spot for maximum gainz and abilities in one

youtu.be/TcH5dBEYmDw

jabroni wrestlin

If I'm not mistaken, Judo is traditionally fought without going to the ground. I think it's neo-judo that wants to copy BJJ and MMA that does that.

Don't kid yourself boys, you throw a punch and you'll be taken to the ground and you won't know what the fuck to do.

How the fuck is he getting curbstomped if he's taken you to the ground exactly?

Wheres the rest of this porn

>Judo is traditionally fought without going to the ground

Nope, grappling on the ground has always been a part of traditional judo and if anything it was de-emphasized over the years due to the practice of judo as an olympic sport.

Every discussion about fighting is the same.

>i punch
>i take you to the ground
>then you get your head kicked in
>what how you're on the ground
>IT'S A STREET FIGHT DO YOU THINK NO ONE ELSE WOULD JOIN YOU CAN'T ASSUME IT'S A HONORABLE ONE ON ONE
>OH YEAH I GOT BROS TOO AND THEY CAN TAKE YOUR BROS TO THE GROUND
>MINE HAVE KNIVES
>MINE HAVE GUNS
>MINE HAVE DOGS

It's like two kids trying to decide who died in a cowboys vs indians game. Every fight is a different fight. Sometimes accomplished grapplers get knocked out. Sometimes good strikers get choked out.

Okay, sure if we're just making hypotheticals out of thin air I'll just fucking shoot you.

BJJ wins. gg no re

>BJJ wins

SAMBO has everything you want. Seriously look it up. Russian martial art. God tier. SAMBO SAMBO SAMBO

KRAV MAGA

>BJJ is good, but has no standup, which makes it risky
>Falling for the Krav Maga meme
>Sambo is good tho

> Boxing losing to judo

nigger this better be a troll post or you have no business giving out lame advice like this. Judo is meme tier MA the only good thing to come of it was BJJ which is 20 times more effective for a real fighting scenario. A pure boxer would have 8 punches on your jaw before you even went for a takedown, that being said if you can pull off high risk takedown on a pure striker they won't have a prayer if they know zero takedown/grappling defense.

OP, train muay thai and substitute it with boxing - if you could learn some basic wrestling/BJJ you'd be well rounded. Being swole af makes you less likely to be targeted and size gives you a advantage on the ground.

Treat the MA training as your cardio, don't over do it

if you do DL and squats do judo.

its like learning how to have fantastic hand-eye coordination and movement, almost like a dancer, with the raw strength of a powerlifter.

sambo

no point in going to the ground when you smash someone full force to the concrete

it's good grappling. pretty much wrestling with a bit of judo but it lacks proper striking, and in some cases schools don't teach striking at all

> size gives you a advantage on the ground.

youtube.com/watch?v=RXUlXAUcCkc

LOL

>Just train boxing+muay thai+Judo+BJJ+wrestling its that easy

Why train all of this bullshit when you can go to a MMA school and learn all the basics and be decent at it in 10x less time + maybe even start going competitive later on?

All those cool moves you're teached in judo, muay thai and so on are pretty much useless in a real fight without rules. Boxing is all you need. You will learn how to take punches and how to punch. Most fights end in a few seconds with 1 or 2 punches

> A 165 ways to kick someone in the balls.

Judo because it has a direct application of physical force. The stronger and bigger you are, the easier Judo becomes.
That's why Judoka are all built as fuck, while boxers bodies are all over the place or Muay Thais are mostly skinny.
>inb4 muh weightclass bias
Judoka are big in every weightclass. Even the lower weightclasses all look like weightlifters because literally every competitive Judoka lifts heavy ass weights.

>getting close enough to grapple in an actual fight
learn street savate or something. beat the shit out of them and keep enough of a distance to stay safe if they pull a knife

>le BJJ meme
gracie destroyed by kimura, gracies destroyed multiple times by sakuraba, gracies start losing the moment they don't handpick their opponents

judo has its problems too and bjj is legit, but not any more legit that the other major martial arts

>train bjj
>get in fight
>fight starts standing
>shit

>I have never set foot into an MMA gym
it shows

Doesn't matter. Pick whichever is coolest to you and find a gym where people actually compete.

Boxing, Judo, BJJ, Muay Thai... It doesn't matter. They're all valid, fun and have great applications if you train at a good gym.

Turning everything into a fucking MMA discussion is pointless because you're not going to be competing in MMA. If it comes to having to use it in self-defense training in any of those arts to a competent level will be enough to get you through.

Do you think there's been more than a handful of fights ever where a guy who had 3-4 good years of any sound discipline under his belt didn't win soundly?

Nah.

People who pick fights aren't very often good fighters. It doesn't take much skill to demolish them. People argue about 'ground game' and the merits of Judo vs BJJ as if it makes a fucking difference.

If some dude picks a fight with you and you have the ingrained skill to throw him full force onto his own head it really doesn't matter if you've spent weeks, months and years perfecting a variety of different locks and chokes. He's going to be out cold.

There's a big opportunity cost involved in doing a less than optimal discipline though. Why not just learn something that works against trained opponents?

... opportunity cost for learning a fucking martial art casually .. ?

were you just looking for an excuse to whip out your first year econ vernacular or what?

jesus

>actually recommending meme shit like bjj

In a messy brawl the last thing you want to do is go to the ground. Just being able to to throw out a solid 1-2 combo is literally all you need other than cardio which should be your plan A.

Fighting is fucking stupid, all it takes is ONE bad fight to rob you of your gains for months or even the rest of your life. Also holy shit you're seriously better off learning pro wrestling than bjj

Alright I'll say that there are a lot of meme arts that really aren't worth the time and money so pick something established and proven in actual sport.

That said it's still not so important which you choose. They all work in their own way. The important thing is getting very good at whichever art you choose.

I'd say finding a good gym is more important than picking the absolute 'right' discipline also. People can argue forever how a BJJ practitioner would fare against a kickboxer or judoka but if you go to a shitty gym you're not going to learn to do anything well.

Basically look at what is available. Got a judo gym and a boxing gym in your area? Go look and see which one seems the most dedicated, which one has the most silverware, which one has the best facilities, which one has the most athletic looking practitioners... Talk to the owners, get a feel for their seriousness and then choose based on which gym you think is going to improve you the most.

That's how I chose.

Holy fuck you're insecure, why so defensive? But feel free to spend money and time on a meme discipline that fucks you up.

yo dude did you consider the opportunity cost for replying to me? or are you a victim of the sunken cost fallacy? i dunno bromachacho

But McDojos are almost exclusively the plague of traditional martial arts. Also there's the entire problem associated with earning belts and injuries.

Grappling is good for being in a padded room. Good luck sweeping on pavement and tearing your own skin off then getting kicked in the head.

>being proud of being a functional retard

no need to get upset at a bit of banter friendo.

u retarded bro?

none of them because you'll fuck up your shoulder and lose gains

I don't know about effectiveness in a fight but BJJ and wrestling have the most aesthetic athletes, no homo.

Boxers look like shit tho.

>Not much is known about Zarylbek. Unofficial sources say he has done seven professional MMA bouts, making him far more experienced than the Brazilian.

Will /ourguy/ Rodolfo Vieira get #rekt in his debut fight?

First:
>firearms training

At least familiarize yourself. Preferably take a firearms training course.

Otherwise:

>Striking paired with some form of grappling

If an altercation is unavoidable you want this so that you can:

A) Soften up the opponent with striking

B) Close in to acquire the takedown

C) Dominate OR control from a superior position on the ground

The goal here is to get to C as quickly as possible. I don't care how badass someone thinks they are. No one untrained without a 100 lb weight advantage or that isn't some autistic grappling savant knows how to handle themselves against a competent grappler on the ground. Add a background in striking and it's even worse.

I train bjj + kickboxing + plus the occasional mma class. Grappling competence in this scenario is someone actively competing at the bluebelt level that consciously trains their wrestling and judo to have strong, consistent takedowns to compliment their ground skills.

remember that the super deadly no sparring no sport combat arts are riddled with absolute mickey mouse instructors. pick an experienced bouncer for example over any military dude unless he just threw away his gun and went in to grapple with every enemy he met.

There is no specific martial art for bodybuilder type of body to be usefull, every one of them have different weight classes, just like lifting and you will have to change your routine to be and loose quite some mass in process to be competetive.

I have this urge. It's a crazy idea desu.
I want to buy a two-handed axe and swing it in all kinds of variations until I have good form. I am going to take a strong psychedlic, seclude myself in the woods, and learn the way of the axe once I reach 1/2/3/4

Alright, that made me smile, go for it, you madman.

T. Never fought in MMA

Stop giving shit advice on the internet.
I am a four year Judoka, two year wrestler, and two year mma practioner.

I wrestle with college level d1 wrestlers three times a week, and my judo lets me keep up, and beat them in fairly even splits. Aggressive grappling is and always has been dominant in MMA, and as I practice MMA as much as possible, I can tell you that basic striking defense can coast you along a a whole range of strikers. It's 2017 (don't meme me) martial arts practioners cross train like mother fuckers. No idiot just does judo or wrestling. They're doing both of them, and Thai or boxing. Me having four years of judo has allowed me to compete with some of the highest level wrestlers in college, sure I'm autistically naturally talented at it but whatever. Traditional boxing stance is extremely open tograppling, has been and always will be. Stop memeing when you have only one experience.

Most fights are untrained retards against untrained retards. That's not a good example.

Maybe boxing isn't a "martial art", but it requires mass. Also, having muscles will in fact help you in most fights. On the other hand, being a roid giant will not help you since it's the same as being 300 pounds fat ass...

How has noone said Systema yet?

u are stupid as hell

Please kill yourself

Wrestling
you get to roll around with a guy infront of other guys, it's pornographic

systema can be good, but most teachers are full of shit. It's use of bio mechanics to control people is pretty great tho

Nah it's bullshit.

>not going for STRIKING+GROUND masterrace
bjj+muai thai is where it's at niggas

I play judo and while all the blokes are by normie standards ripped, to get good the training is so demanding it'll affect bodybuilding gains, the positions you train mean you get serious asymmetry, and you'll get injured at some point.

Sambo, .gif related
Judo
Boxing
Bjj
Sanda
Wreslting.

if you want to fool around once or twice a week on a martial art but keep bodybuilding the number 1 priority, you won't get good. Simple as that. And you'll quit going eventually. You either have to be all in, or really, you're just wasting your time.

To good at any martial arts requires at least 4 times a week training. And if you're doing Judo or BJJ, you HAVE to compete regularly if you EVER want to get good. And let me telling you something, the cardio will drain you, you will feel over-trained and you WILL lose muscle mass. Especially if you workout arms or chest the day before and then go do a 90 minute boxing or BJJ class. Your arms will be noodles. It's up too you. You want to learn how to fight and get good? Or do you just want to look big and know a few moves that you can sorta kinda can emulate in a safe controlled environment?