I don't understand how the fuck did you become a kissless virgin?

I don't understand how the fuck did you become a kissless virgin?
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by being ugly and having no social skills

what's so hard to understand?

I acted like a retard in school. But the thing was I didn't actually realize the way I was acting was "wrong" until my last years of high school and by then it was too late. It hit me like a train though and I fell into a deep depression and started avoiding everyone (it was my way of "apologizing" to everyone for being a weird cunt-- I'll stay away from you so you don't have to deal with me anymore sort of thing). Eventually I got out of it and I'm a pretty normal guy in university. Still a kissless virgin but girls seem to be more interested in me now so wish me luck anons.

Are you actually ugly or is that just an excuse you made so you don't have to go through the process of actually identifying and fixing your flaws? You're a beautiful person user, I believe in you.

>become
Everyone is a kissless virgin at first you cunt

I was okay in high school but regressed in university.

I don't have any special story, just got rejected several times in a row and my confidence was broken. Social status is a thing of momentum. Everyone wants to be with the guy who is already winning.

My guy, Im a social retard. Just really retard. I think I'm decent looking, had chicks throw themselves @ every party I go but I'm too much of a fucking retard to respond. I'm working on it and hope to overcome it.

We all gonna make it you faggots.

pic related is basically me up until the part where he meets the knockout. Combine that with low self-confidence leading me to believe that women who are acting interested are just being nice.
Basically this as well

I had 1 girlfriend once from 18-20 and before that i was complete virgin autistic beta orbiter. on top of being an orbiter, i never had female friends but it wasn't just because of social skills but also cause there was practically no cool girls or ones id wanna hang with or have anything in common so it was just natural lol. i was autistic around mostly anyone though

We're all gonna make it bro

>be 15 yo me
>the age where most normies start to have their first sexual experience in my country
>have two friends
>we were vidya playing outcasts
>exactly like in these movies where the main protagonist has his two friends and they fit in nowhere because nobody wants to be around them
>of course girls were never attracted by us because they knew we are unpopular and were playing videogames all day
>finish school
>more than 6 years later
>one friend is a normie, he had 2 girlfriends and he was the one who broke up with the one girl
>other friend is still virgin, but he is normie tier virgin
>hanging out with friends everyday, partying every weekend etc.
>i am an on and off neet for more than two years now
>only things i am doing is lifting, eating and playing videogames
>don't know any girl, don't know any guy besides my two friends
>afraid of doing something with their friends because now i am a socially awkward autistic faggot who is scared of people

jesus man it's so weird to know other people have such similar experiences to me i used to think that would be impossible. i spent the last 2 years climbing out of it and in the summer after grad i actually got a girlfriend. my bestfriend was the exact same and we did it together lol it was such a fucking weird life oh my god but the reason that girl was attracted to me was because i was happy/smiling all the time she said, i never had good social skills but apparently the right one will be attracted to something natural about you.

Pretty much this.

High school was actually pretty good for me as far as girls, sex, relationships went.

Since graduating I have been on a 2 year dry spell. Most girls have literally said out loud "I have high standards nowadays" I only attend a community college too. No clue why some women get so crazy in their early 20's.

>I have high standards nowadays
Translation
>I got pumped and dumped by dozens of chads and now I'm just looking for a beta bux

This minus the depression. I just became self-aware and fixed my shit. No gfs because I haven't met any girls that really interested me and virgin because Christian.

Being afraid to talk to other people, like deathly afraid, can destroy all of your potential to get girls.

Wow same, almost became an alcoholic by the end of highschool

By never approaching any woman ever?

If you're an average guy and don't approach women you die a virgin.

I didn't tell her how I felt before she graduated, and I couldn't get her out of my mind for the rest of my Senior year. Eventually I got her Snapchat from a friend, but I put it off for weeks until I had this dream that I lost her to someone else because of me waiting too long. That pretty much gave me the confidence to talk to her, and it was like we've been talking this entire time. We moved from SC to texting and talking for the most of that May, she even came to my graduation and net my family. We were going to go to dinner, but I couldn't let her know on time so we were just going to hang out over the weekend. I was so happy, I finally had her, until she stopped replying to my messages.

Over the course of the summer, she'd ignored me for weeks and maybe reply once or twice before doing it for another week. She'd always look at my snaps, and always leave me on read or wouldn't even open the message at all. One day I blew up and made snaps that only she'd see since she always looked at them, and that got her talking to me... Through snaps. I later apologize since I didn't want to be the asshole here, and we finally had a conversation. She texted me good morning, even sent a picture too, and then nothing after that. Then she said some really hurtful things on snap about nobody being important except for some people she named, and I just blocked her after that. There was even another fucking guy in the car who she went with to see a movie. I don't get how everything went south so fast.

i'm pretty ugly and creepy looking, also don't present myself very well, no social skills, but most of all i just haven't tried because of the aforementioned factors.

You're "creepy" because you're ugly mate, just don't be ugly

High confidence coupled with low self esteem and body image issues.

I'm incredibly insecure about my penis size to the point where I will avoid any and all women that would give me a bit of attention. I'm 5" exactly with probably around 4.5" girth, so it's well below average but could be worse, but that doesn't matter because I think porn and the internet in general has warped my views on penis size so much that I will never feel okay with it. Anytime I see someone try to tell me size doesn't matter it always makes me feel worse too because the way they phrase it is always something along the lines of
>if everything else about you is great then she won't care if your dick is small, she'll look past it
Knowing whoever is with me would have to settle is horrifying for my already low self-worth.

Also I'm a complete fag when it comes to how I act, I really crave emotional fulfillment and want a strong loyal girl to be my wife, but I'm a realist and know that this type of vibe comes across as a nice guy mentality which is cancer, but it's how I truly am so why would I want to change everything about my personality just to get laid. I don't know. I've bought into the red pill on women's true nature completely but I'm still holding out hope that there is someone for me who can be my best friend and my lover at the same time.

Those would be the main reasons for why I am still a virgin, and I probably will be for my entire life at this rate.

That's average faggot.

My chad friend has a penis that size and he has no issue maintaining a rotation of fwbs. i.e. women find him good enough to constantly keep coming back, and he treats them like shit.

But he's good looking, cool, and in decent shape.

Don't worry about your penis, fix your personality and improve your outward appearance as much as possible.

Did you actually progress the relationship user? Like kiss and make advances? Most girls like the relationship to be intimate not just social (talking and meeting parents).

If you did then she could have just flaked, realised one night that you just weren't for her or this other guy did better than you at wooing her.

good idea

No one cares about your made up friend

As other user said fix personality, but check out GLL bathmate and his jelqing routine

>Did you actually progress the relationship user? Like kiss and make advances?
I was planning on that after the dinner, but things didn't go as planned and we ended up going early so I couldn't tell her in time. I don't know man, I don't think I even want to know why she did what she did. I'd be fine if she didn't want to be together, I can accept that. But why play with my emotions for so long? We were friends at first and that's how I get treated?

This is basically me. I was an ugly teen and acted like a weirdo in high school. My first year of university I stopped acting weird but i was still pretty ugly and had self esteem issues so I still didn't fit in well. Now i'm in my 4th year and i'm above average looking thanks to all the looksmaxing I've done but I have no social life and no way to meet girls hence the virginity.

Oh and I forgot to mention, she was off at college when we were talking. We met for the first time in a year that day.

You're acting like it's the end of the world, i'm the same size as you and at most it's a minor setback. Just don't pursue relationships based purely on sex (or do but don't expect much success).

kek maybe if you supply an actual shred of evidence it works i will

Too busy lifting and being retarded in social situations.

This is almost entirely me
Turned my life around and got lucky with puberty around year 11/12, but people still assume that I'm some kind of chad. In fact my first girlfriend was scared to approach me because she thought I was too busy hooking up with other girls (Fucking women and their insecurity).

It does get better.

Most likely she saw you as a friend with potential but you didn't show enough interest.

Take it from me, you need to be more forward for closure, for her and you. I worked in a charity shop in my last year of college (in the UK) for work experience for Uni.

There was girl who also worked there who had a great personality (a little awkward but cute), cared for our cause passionately and was skinny (decent face but not the best). She never ever gave signals of interest but in my final month there I ballsed up when we were alone and got more personal with her, asked her about family, one thing lead another and she tells me about a weight condition she has where she throws up after a certain amount of food.

I tell her she looks cute the way she is, she says I'm OK myself and then I asked if she wanted to watch something at my place. She accepted.

Basically, I was lucky she didn't have a bf/didn't meet anyone while I was not attempting intimacy. But if I didn't man up and make it more intimate then I would have left for Uni as a virgin with no gf back where I came from.

Sorry for the wall of text, my experience was similar to yours in that she was friend for ages, but in my case I actually took it to the intimate level. All in all there will be more chances for you user, don't give up and learn from your mistakes.

Not the user you were replying to.
But thanks for that

18 just a regular virgin.

Its easy to become desu. I had couple of chances but I sperged out, if you are like me, not partying often, going to technical uni and if you dont activily approach girls you will certainly be a virgin.

24 yo kissless virgin here

Very bad confidence, extremely self conscious, very introverted.

I have never kissed a girl,and closest i was when girl sat on my lap once.

Kill me.
At least nowadays i sometimes get mires at gym because i have decent frame and height and my gains are beginnig to show

Five inches is average.
Dude. Your dick is fine. Quit stressing. You are normal. Women don't actually like long dicks.

t. Femanon whose seen a lot of dicks and works in a sex toy store.

You may not want to hear this, but it sounds like she didn't think you were in a relationship at all, thougut you guys were friends, and you read waaaay too much into it by projecting your hopes and feelings on to her.

>when a girl sat on my lap once

Reminds me of back in highschool when I was playing handball with some mates.
>year 8 at school. (Grade 8 for amerifats)
>was bored of playing so I was just sitting at bench talking to a mate
>these girls come over to chat
I had my growth spurt really early and was already around 6'1 in year 8.
Squeezed out a couple more inches the flowing years now 6'3, but anyway.
>hottie thai-greek mix girl decides its a good idea to sit on my lap
>originally she sits on my knee
>im balancing her on my knee she hasnt made contact with my crotch yet
>we continue talking
>slowly she squirms her way over till she is sitting completely on my crotch.
>break in conversation
>she smiles and laughs
>be me
>face goes red and I sperg out and balance her back on my knee where she originally was.
>continue conversation as best I could

Fuck me man sometimes I just want to fucking kill my younger self for being such a pussy bitch. I had all the tools to be a slayer but I fucked up so bad at times. Soz for long text

Ive always wanted to buy a dildo that I could stick to mirror.
Do you see many young guys who are reasonably fit and have their shit together who but dildos?
Do you assume they are gay?

Quality post.