Can't do normal squats

StrangeWizard
StrangeWizard

thinking of substituting them with smith squats.

I had a session with a PT, as part of gym my membership, and he told me my form on squats was bad, my back arches and my legs bow.

whereismyname
whereismyname

@StrangeWizard
he wants me to do machine squats until my form improves

Deadlyinx
Deadlyinx

bump

so I do machine or smith.

also what excercises can I do to improve my squat form

Flameblow
Flameblow

@StrangeWizard
Did you try lowering the weight?

ZeroReborn
ZeroReborn

@Flameblow
was doing empty bar

Fried_Sushi
Fried_Sushi

@ZeroReborn
Did you try being less of a bitch?

Garbage Can Lid
Garbage Can Lid

I just have shitty mobility.

RumChicken
RumChicken

@StrangeWizard
Then improve your form you aspie

Soft_member
Soft_member

@RumChicken
how nigga

Carnalpleasure
Carnalpleasure

@Soft_member
Do goddamned squats, you faggot. You do the things you want to do better so you get better at them. How goddamned simple can it be?

SniperWish
SniperWish

@Soft_member
I mean did your PT not show you proper form?

TechHater
TechHater

Do em with a broomstick, stretch, practice, and develop body awareness

Your body wants to squat, it's a natural movement. It has no idea what a Smith machine or a leg press is

Illusionz
Illusionz

Don't listen to PTs, all they want to do is try and keep you from injuring yourself on their watch and keep taking your money. They don't know shit.

Methshot
Methshot

@Illusionz
To be fair the PT is raising valid points about OP's form

Carnalpleasure
Carnalpleasure

@StrangeWizard
Film your squats and post on here. Blur face obviously.

Also look up alan thralls how to squat video. Its 22min long skip the low bar variation of the video. Also ignore his most recent video on my ATG isnt the best, hes wrong, its the best.

Git gud

JunkTop
JunkTop

@StrangeWizard
You're not going to hurt yourself squatting an empty bar even if you're an autswutch tier woman

StrangeWizard
StrangeWizard

@Carnalpleasure
Yeah I wasn't a fan of that one, his point about himself dive bombing and losing tightness isn't something wrong with deep squats, it's something wrong with how he deep squats. The movement itself isn't bad.

Stupidasole
Stupidasole

Stretch really well before. I have bad hip mobility and my form sucks if I don't do a real good 10 min stretch.

Carnalpleasure
Carnalpleasure

@Stupidasole
Disagree with this. I understand what you're trying to say but static stretching prior to strength work has been shown to have negative impact on performance (check Nuckols if you doubt it).

I'd say to accomplish what you're suggesting better would be to warm up with dynamic stretching via something like the limber 11 (search Joe De Franco) or something similar such as bodyweight walking lunges/squats, frog jumps, light row on ergo etc done at comfortable speed just to get body moving. Especially important if OP is a desk jockey. Just walking in and doing a couple of squats with the bar will not be enough if he sits on ass all day. Spend a good 5-10 mins, warm up properly by moving hips/knees through full ROM with just body weight will get him better ready.

Also cold stretching not only won't really limber him up, it actually can cause sprains/muscle strains so is especially bad in the morning before you've moved around

FastChef
FastChef

What's a good way to build up to a deep squat if I can only go paralell

iluvmen
iluvmen

@FastChef
Do highbar squats with an empty bar after your workout and progressively get deeper

RavySnake
RavySnake

@Methshot
But we haven't seen OPs form, for all we know he had a natural arch and very minor valgus and the dyel PT shit his pants.

MPmaster
MPmaster

Do squats
Get pins & needles in hands

iluvmen
iluvmen

@Soft_member
You're not going to hurt yourself doing squats with just the bar, watch videos on how to squat and practice.

BlogWobbles
BlogWobbles

@SniperWish
did your PT not show you proper form
you cannot depend on those shits to do it. I lift at a YMCA and every time I see a PT coaching a client, it's half squats and deadlifts with lmao .5pl8 for 12 reps.
they are literally only there to design a routine for you to make nogains and develop a dependency on them.
great for profit, shit for success stories

whereismyname
whereismyname

@BlogWobbles
This
The fuckers know what they're doing
They know their clients are quarter squatting, they just don't give a shit about the client actually making progress.

Harmless_Venom
Harmless_Venom

@StrangeWizard
Why don't you learn how to squat then, you retard? I swear some of you are fucking hopeless retards.

Snarelure
Snarelure

@MPmaster
I thought it was only me.

Lunatick
Lunatick

@Harmless_Venom
How do I learn to squat if my form is so bad that I can't squat without injuring myself.

hurr durr do the very thing that you can't do

Methnerd
Methnerd

@Lunatick
your form is bad because you do shit to change it

enjoy your no gains

eGremlin
eGremlin

@Lunatick
Get a mobility routine and fucking STRETCH you imbicile!

Practice your form by starting with bodyweight squats (hold a wooden bar as a pretend barbell). Film yourself and actively correct the things that are wrong. Onve you can do a good squat like that, move on to the barbell, and repeat the process.

Until then do lunges, and glute bridges as a substitute for weighted squats (poor one, but it's a shit load better than nothing).

Raving_Cute
Raving_Cute

@eGremlin
holy shit this

Crazy_Nice
Crazy_Nice

@Lunatick
Get a stick or an empty barbell, watch a video of how to squat, copy it, and film yourself. Watch your video and see how you do. Rinse and repeat. Do I seriously need to explain something so simple to you?

takes2long
takes2long

You guys are shit.

I'm just gonna pay the $100 a session with the PT and get actual help to fix my squat

Deadlyinx
Deadlyinx

@takes2long
I'm just gonna pay the $100 a session with the PT and get actual help to fix my squat
PT fix my squat

Have fun wasting your money and probably being taught to squat like a tard. We just told you what to do. Why are you incapable of practising your form with a stick and filming yourself with your phone?

cum2soon
cum2soon

@StrangeWizard

my form was bad on my first try, better do something different LOL

SniperWish
SniperWish

@StrangeWizard
Go read the pages and pages of squatting Rippetoe has written and squat and eat more you shitter. If you can't even squat the bar you need to be eating much more. SS+GOMAD is actually applicable here

viagrandad
viagrandad

@Lunatick

How can you learn to squat if you never squat? Obviously don't just go to town on a bar loaded with your bodyweight in shorts and sandals, but there's shit you can and should do to enable you to squat with proper form. It's not just a matter of "whelp, that dream's dead," you fucking do shit to get better.
You can't lift 400lbs yet either, that doesn't mean you can't progressively work to get there, but you never will if you just go "I guess I'll take up foosball instead."

PackManBrainlure
PackManBrainlure

@StrangeWizard
my form is bad
better give up lmao
Just do air squats to build up a minimum amount of strength if an empty bar is too much(although that's almost certainly not the case, you've just put in zero effort into improving your form)

StonedTime
StonedTime

@MPmaster
Same. Bad circulation?

FastChef
FastChef

Sounds like a shit pt.
He should have taught you proper form instead of copping out and telling you to do leg press.

King_Martha
King_Martha

@FastChef

pts
teaching things that result in actual progress

Pick one and only one. Even the ones at my gym who can rep 3/4/5 in their sleep still give their clients bosu ball balance hocus pocus and 20 rep sets so they get tired and winded.

it's what they want, user
tfw you can't argue with this

RumChicken
RumChicken

Same topic more or less: If I do squats, my knees are pushed way too much forward, as I was told. Nevertheless, if I try to correct it, I feel like I'll drop backwards. Doing that "corrected" version in a Smith Machine results in shifting the whole Smith Machine backwards. So: Is shifting the knees too much forwards okay (got quite long legs), or will it result in knee injuries?

BunnyJinx
BunnyJinx

Just do box squats first

Nude_Bikergirl
Nude_Bikergirl

@Lunatick
do goblet squats

likme
likme

@RumChicken
would have to see a vid, but if you have long legs your knees go further forward. Think about moving the bar in the same plane and work on hip mobility if its absurd

RavySnake
RavySnake

@StrangeWizard
@whereismyname

PT's a dumbass, do freeweight squats with the bar until you get the form down and then start adding weight

Deadlyinx
Deadlyinx

@StrangeWizard
I had the same problem with low bar, then I tried front squats and my form was way better.
But I'm trying to fix my mobility to get back to low bar, of course.

RavySnake
RavySnake

@ZeroReborn
Work on bodyweight squats. Your form will never get better on smith machine

BunnyJinx
BunnyJinx

@Soft_member
You didn't actually think you'd have perfect form on day 1 did you? I'm still improving my form and I've been lifting for a year or so.

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