Was pedophilia prevalent in history?
Was pedophilia prevalent in history?
Yes. It spans cultures. There's always been people abusing their power over children.
That statue is clealry not a child.
It's of a pedophile.
Pedophiles are probably a constant minority, but child sex was much more common than today, and more so the less advanced the society you're looking at. Really primitive peoples, hunter gatherers and isolated Jungle tribes and such, use children sexually from very early on, tho this isn't really pedophilia per se in most cases. Arabs famously have "dancing boys", tho again idk if this is pedophillic. Actual pedophiles in such societies have easy access to their fetish, of course.
Depends what you mean by "pedophillia" probably under 9 was seen as taboo.
This isn't pedophilia, it's more about the gradual extension of the status of childhood on young people. With the new trend to extend childhood into the early 20's, I'm sure future people will think fucking a 20 year old is "pedophilia".
>you will never live in 1880
That being said, why the fuck did people in the 19th century think a 10 year old would be capable of consent? The fuck?
I would imagine because young adults had more responsibility in general during those times. If a 10 year old boy can work in a coal mine, why can't he choose whether he consents or not? Additionally the lines between adulthood were much blurrier back then. There wasn't a concept of being a "teenager", you were a child or an adult.
>There wasn't a concept of being a teenager
What? Is "teenager" a 21st centuary meme?
It's a 20th century one. Medieval people expected even quite small children to work, and dressed them in small versions of adult clothing. Victorians invented "childhood", but that ended at ~14 / 15. The post WW2 West invented the "teenager", whihc pushed back the period during whihc young people are "protected" to ~18 / 19. Modern society is moving towards pushing it still further, with "graduating college" being the new marker for full adulthood.
It's not that childhood was a meme. It's that people just did what felt natural to them. You don't need a high school diploma to want to fuck.
Exactly, they did what they felt until the Victorians invented the meme of childhood as a time of "innocence" where the young person needs to be protected and shielded from the harsh realities of life.
Well, they're not wrong. Anyone under the age of 20 is a complete retard.
If you're a retard at 20 you're not gonna get much smarter.
The brain doesn't finish developing until around 25 in most people, this is probably where the line will end up being drawn.
The point is that you dont have a pool of experience (a lack of data, if you will) to draw upon. You're a neural network with limited resources to optimize your decision making and this can end disastrously.
I honestly think 16 is a fair cut off. I don't think it should be illegal to have sex with people at that age, but I frown upon it if you are 5 years older +. A 16 year old and a 19 year old? Not a big deal.
>The brain doesn't finish developing until around 25 in most people
Yeah but you don't need a fully developed brain to screw, much like you don't need a fully developed brain to eat or fart. As far as having kids is concerned, once you reach your 30s the chances of having children with disabilities skyrockets. Eventually women can't have kids at all.
Young people having sex with their peers will be accepted, its older people who will be barred from fucking them, and seen as deviants for lusting after them.
Why are you talking in the past tense?
Why do you think a sentence using 'will be' is in the past tense?
>Young people
the soul itself is older than time., And hence, a person's age, simply does not exist.
Pedophilia is bad because it hurts the children genitals. I would say Hebephilia is more normal.
That's nice but it does so you're wrong.
Eh more normal maybe but unless you are a hebe yourself its still deviant to be attracted to jailbait into your later 20's and 30's.
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According to one person who had considerable cause to hate her and who is known to be have lied in other stories.
I mean future sense.
To say a 'person' ia an age cannot be true, because that person is simply a soul that has been awakened by God. The seed, of their life. And hence, that seed, has existed since before time. And thus, is beyond its explanations.
Because it's not currently the case that older people are barred from fucking 20 year olds.
Their body has an age, even if their soul doesn't.
A person is a body as well as a mind, that body has an age, and by extension that age is a characteristic of that person.
Oh, you are protecting a dystopian future? Hopefully mankind will move n the opposite direction.
Bodyagemind
>Victorians invented "childhood"
no they didnt.
ONE guy writes a book and everyone think they are clever for spouting this
What's dystopian about it? Is it dystopian that we no longer accept adults fucking children? This is just the next natural step.
Not literally the English Victorians, that age of people in general, across Europe and America. The English Victorians merely perfected the romanticization of childhood, probably because their society was so demanding of adults.
that person's body is just a tool. Not unlike a car, and a person is not their body. Or it would be inseperable from that person. It's is only inseperable to the name. The body has a name, but the person has a soul. These two things fuse to create a vessel for a human. But the person by defintion does not have a body, but uses one.
people in teens + 20s need to breed, older people can't breed and produce healthy offspring
You said young people, not children.
>A 26 year shouldn't be able to breed with a 21 year old
You clearly never have had sex of any kind.
I don't care how much sophistry you try to spin, you're not going to justify fucking children so don't even bother.
Read the thread you moron.
>justify fucking children
when two people are married they are the same person. Hence, one is not fucking the other, but they are together in no more unity than the moment they were wed.
I've read it. You claim we are moving in a direction where so called "young people" will be barred from breeding with so called "old people." That's pretty dystopian. Who cares if a 20 year old wants to have sex with a 30 year old? The mental difference is not profound. Maybe life experiences, but even then who cares?
Why you think it's dystopian is beyond me, do you think adults should be able to fuck kids? No? Welcome to the overwhelming majority of people. Because nearly everyone feels this way, as the definition of 'kid' changes, so too will the rules of consent. Just as we no longer allow men to fuck 12 year olds, even tho those 12 years are physically capable of sex, so too we will bar 30 year olds from fucking 20 year olds.
what you're saying is feminist superstitions
>you forgot to ask for MY permission!
if anything you're a cockblock with a mouth
Despite what you presume, I'm not morally outraged by the fact that for 99% of human history fucking a 12 year old was acceptable. I personally think a reasonable age of consent is 14, so your assumption that I should just "get" the logic behind it is incorrect.
Well then you're a pedophile, and your opinion will be ignored, as it should be.
>The guy saying 20 year olds shouldn't be legally able to have sex with 30 year olds is telling other people their opinion will be ignored
kek
Sorry faggot, no-one cares what pedo filth thinks.
you're a deamgouge
I may be a deamgouge, but at least I'm not a demagogue :^)
I always have to wonder if people who seriously think like you actually remember being 10.
I remember being 10. Maybe it's cause I'm male but I had no sex drive to speak of.
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Didn't girls sexually develop later in life back then than they did now?
Wouldn't dicking down a 10y/o be the biological equivalent of a 7y/o today and no more mentally mature?
Whats the name of the statue or artist?
thats just fucking gross
doubt it. people start getting horny at like 13 but its their bodies that usually stop growing at arounf 18-20 so thats why the line is drawn there now. doubt it'll go higher
Fuck off with your nu-religion, this is a Christian imageboard.
I can't speak much for other periods in history, but ancient Sparta was full of pederasts and homos. I've been reading Plutarch a lot and a good quarter of Agesilaus's life was drama with his boyfriends. Hell, even he was groomed by Lysander, in my opinion it had to do mostly for political reasons though. In fact, most pederast relationships between older men and younger boys was half political reasons and half being the older party being a total fag.
Most adults didn't much education beyond what a 10 y/o had at the time.
"Capability Consent" is a relatively new idea, and one that grew the rise of institutionalized education that made adults much more informed.
Why the fuck did people in the 19th century think that a 6 year-old would be capable of laboring in a factory?
And, of course, men of the cloth are famously not paedophiles.
LARP elsewhere you cur
They are though.
Why is the soul thing and wedding stuff even related to this?
Mind and body develop differently, and the view of life and adulthood has changed. All your opinions doesnt matter, because there is no objectiv answer. What should and should not be the age limit is a difficult question to answer. Its not even worth debating. Just accept it as it is: a moraly contstructed bullshit.