Do you think the founding of Veeky Forums will go down as one of the defining moments of Online culture and history?

Do you think the founding of Veeky Forums will go down as one of the defining moments of Online culture and history?
What are some interesting pieces of Online history Veeky Forums?

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I think they're going to get upset at you over this one lad

Nope. Moot will always be irrelevant.

I had a dream last night where moot came back and saved Veeky Forums.

I think I need to take a break from this place.

A lot of early internet history is going to be lost because Usenet is basically dead and only used for piracy these days, yet Usenet was the original online internet community.
Ironically Encyclopedia Dramatica is legit like, one of the few places that actually bothers to record online history. If ED and Waybackmachine went down, A LOT of the formative years of modern internet culture would be lost.
Another interesting thing is because of the CWCiki, Chris Chan is probably the single most documented human is history. Not many other humans get a literal day to day record of what clothes they are wearing. Chris Chan for years basically lived the Truman Show.

>Directly led to Trump being President because he was too much of a bitch to reign in /pol/ which by that point was being featured on foxnews as the "new hip place" for Conservatives to hang out online.
>Arguably the meme culture of modern society comes from Veeky Forums.

Probably will be under "early days of internet" section.

Veeky Forums's history is already covered in many academic papers. Its only a matter of time in the coming decades that someone will write a "internet history" book

>Directly led to Trump
PRAISE KEK LEFTIES AMIRITE XDDDDD

>Another interesting thing is because of the CWCiki, Chris Chan is probably the single most documented human is history. Not many other humans get a literal day to day record of what clothes they are wearing.
This is rather surreal.

What is a moot?

Problem with ED is that it's insanely bias and basically like 60% bullshit.
It's an "internet culture" archive, but because of it's bias and relation to Kiwifarms, it's going to be hard for historians to figure out what is bullshit and what is not.
A good example is say, the Zoe Quinn page. 80% gamergate retarded conspiracy bullshit, with 20% actually very interesting information that is sparsed throughout, but because ED and Kiwifarms and Gamergate are conspiratard dramafags, they have to wove some elaborate tale about Quinn sleeping with the entire industry for her shareware game to get some indie award nobody has ever heard of, while missing the trees in that there is actually good information in there of Quinn being an abusive manipulative cunt from past roommates, other wokesphere and tumblrinas who were friends with her, ex-coworkers etc. But that stuff is all buried under layers of bullshit.

It would actually be quite nice to get a "ED" style site that actually tried to be far more academic and neutral in recording internet culture. Doesn't help much of ED feels like it was written by edgelord 16 year olds.

Eternal September is still a very relevant event desu


The fuck? What papers?

Learn to use google scholar. I get that many are new to Veeky Forums, but atleast try to understand the history a bit more. Veeky Forums is covered by mainstream media extensively. There's plenty of academic paper on Veeky Forums, its influence, its history, etc.

He will have his 15mins of glory. Whether for good or for bad I couldn't say.

That all depends on how early Internet history pass down in History, whether as a shining beacon at the dawn of a new era of enlightenment and global communication or as a shithole of depravity, porn, memes and cats.

user pls
Don't quote me on this but I remember reading that there's been more research papers published in the last 30 years than all of human history before it, combined.
This is probably the best known, an UN-sponsored paper researching /pol/
arxiv.org/pdf/1610.03452v1.pdf

He had his 15 minutes when he was morherfucking TIME'S PERSON OF THE YEAR

times' POTY is a meme that no one cares about
literal globalist propaganda

Kill all Normies is another academic look on Veeky Forums.
But as an oldfag, you can really tell the Academics are observers looking in and don't 100% get the culture and actually often take /pol/ at face value instead of understanding that culture of /pol/ is extremely cynical and manipulative.

I would say that even modern 4channers won't understand old Veeky Forums. Old Veeky Forums was a weird mix of SomethingAwful, early Western Otaku culture and early-mid 2000s teenage angst.

Wait a minute, you don't think that's a picture of Mark Zuckerburg, right? moot's only won an internet poll.

Bugmen are truly vile.

I read some exerpt from there and some of the memes are wrong.

One easy to point out is how she mentions "kek" meme comes from World of Warcraft. She has no clue about top gun/top lel/top lulz/top kek.

She didn't do her research proper and probably relied on (((coincidences))), what a racist author.

Hold the phone, this article was apparently funded by an EU grant.
So European taxes are funding bitter, pickled academics' worthless studies on /pol/ for the sake of 'abusive language detection'.
As I said, bugmen are truly vile.

Kek originally comes from WoW, it is what "LOL" got translated into from the horde side.

>Bugmen
wat

Ahh so you're those newfags.

The thing that always gets me about ED is you can practically see the shift in the "culture" of the kinda people who edit there based on the general targets of mockery and whatnot

It seems that we were the real autistic people all along.

There was a class across the hall from me that was studying something about Veeky Forums. It was pretty funny to see someone with a doctorate attempt to explain how pepe was a hate symbol. He clearly needed to lurk moar though, the guy didnt know what he was talking about

As a leftist, I feel bad for Nagle. Because her work is actually largely sympathetic towards channers flocking towards /pol/ and calls out online leftist spaces for being extremely toxic, cultish, groupthinky, overrun with identity politics, that she got thrown under the bus by most of the left aside from like, Chapotraphouse guys and /leftypol/ people who actually sided with her.
As a leftist she's complete right. Go on any leftist community online aside from /leftpol/ and /leftypol/ they're legitimately no fun allowed and drowning in dumbass oppression olympics nonsense.

That's actually a false etymology. Yes kek was a thing from WoW, which filtered from Star Craft's "kekekeke" as the Korea onomatopoeia for laughter, but that's a coincidence. "Kek" the way it's used on Veeky Forums came from top gun becoming top lel becoming top kek through a typo, note that "L" and "K" are next to each other on a US keyboard. It's very similar to how "zomg" from the early internet came from someone pressing the "Z" key on accident while trying to hit the shift key.

>Old Veeky Forums was a weird mix of SomethingAwful, early Western Otaku culture and early-mid 2000s teenage angst.

Underrated statement. 2003-2006 Veeky Forums was basically that. You need to know SA traditions, some animu that nowadays no one talks about (Desu desu desu) and you need to know if not be from the late 80s early 90s teenager culture. Most posters were born somewhere between 87-92.

I would say 2007 was the peak of this site, and after 2008 it became ever increasingly popular, with late 2012 being the breaking point, take a look at population stats on 4plebs archive, it quadroupled or even more between 2013-2017

Oh how time flies so fast.
not him but wasnt that the case? 2005fag here

t. brainlet who only reads Wikipedia

Most of the Chapo fans also hate her too because she called out some bullshit disability committee on the DSA. The whole online left right now is rotten to the core with attention-hunger and idpol.

Actually you are right, I was wrong.
I remember that actually being the case now, originally I thought "KEK" came from how koreans type lol as "kekeke" but I was told so many times over the years it came from WoW that I came to believe it.
GAR is another one that comes from a typo, with the Code Geass shit.

Also from 20005, I wrote . I think the WoW etymology got peddled hard fro a while and I can see why so many people believe it, but IIRC people didn't start making that connection until a year after "top kek" became a thing.

Kill yourself.

Top kek is some shitty turkish cake brand. The idea that kek made it's way into Veeky Forums culture from some guy misspelling lol rather than it coming from two already established communities were keke/kek meant haha/lol is ridiculous. If you really think kek wasn't around on Veeky Forums before top kek, you're the newfag.

Its like saying Halo invented FPS games because its popular.

Of course thats not true. The whole kek comes because wordfilters on /sp/ leading to top gun, top lul, top kek.

The coincidence is because wow used the word "kek" and is popular, people think its the origin. The wow "kek" and "top kek" has nothing to do with each other in respect other than pure coincidence. However as with almost every popular Veeky Forums meme, this "top kek" gets exported out to the internet and to the wow itself, people think WoW is the cause of the meme

Also since you said "2005" we can be certain age has little to do with this knowledge. Its all about /sp/ and /s4s/ usage, but more importantly its all about habitual usage of Veeky Forums. "top gun" and then later "top kek" spread across Veeky Forums like the usual memes.

Is there anything that purely belongs to Veeky Forums anymore? most of the old memes have been pushed into the mainstream and abused to no end. Today we have leeches like Reddit that take OC anyone makes and abuses it. Veeky Forums of old has become the internet culture and neo-Veeky Forums has been assimilated into the new web

>online

Have you ever been a member of a socialist party?
The online left is shit because the offline left is shitter.

My favourite was 'meme lel'.

>most of the old memes have been pushed into the mainstream and abused to no end.

Actually stuff like Pedobear and long cat are long dead memes. So dead you could probably start using them again and people would think they are new.

People made that connection after "top kek" was already a thing, people didn't just randomly find a Turkish cake brand and start going "top kek" for no fucking reason, that's absurd. Top gun was already top lel which was then misspelled as top kek, people found top kek and started posting the picture because they thought it was funny that there was actually something called "Top Kek". I really don't see how a typo from a pre-existing meme makes less sense than people randomly starting to spam the name of a Turkish fucking pastry.

Some board specific memes have stuck on Veeky Forums related and are hard to export due to some of the board's "exotic" nature.

Also kek on its own was very rarely used before top kek was a thing, the Korean "kekekeke" was certainly popular on Veeky Forums before that though.

I dont know, but we're witnessing the fall of Veeky Forums. Someone should make notes on that

2009 called, they want their meme back.

It's actually kind of strange, as the website has undeniably gotten less popular it's also gotten dramatically less creative. I mean shit, how often do you just see twitter and facebook memes get reposted these days compared to OC? It doesn't help that mods will delete threads that go off of an OP's topic, even if it's still related to the board at large. That stifles the fuck out of creativity by hampering the natural flow of conversation.

>gotten less popular
I meant gotten more popular, fuck.

yes it's gotten more popular now, but only because of /pol/. while bringing in more users have drove off old posters because of the cancer they spread to other boards. and the mods never address the issue. lots of older posters are gone.

and once the fad of nu pol dies down and the kids go do something else, Veeky Forums will not have the old users to fall back on. as most have went to other sites.

I literally daydream about Veeky Forums about to get shut down by the NWO and then Moot returns to give an epic speech and calls them “fags” at the end

>That feel when mentally ill nutjob BO destroyed /leftypol/ and turned it into a idpol tankie circlejerk.

>The online left is shit because the offline left is shitter.

Because the left attracts fucktonnes of toxic mentally ill people who see the left as a fucking safe space support group for their own personal issues rather than a political movement. Also because of the idpols fucked fetishization of Oppression, suddenly, it's "stigmatizing/oppressive" to call people who are bipolar or schizophrenic mentally ill and tell them to come back after they get help.
Hell there are legitimate movements within the left, that claim that Bipolar, schizophrenia, BPD etc are not "illnesses" but just "natural expressions of human psychology". This shit is honestly killing the left but because idpol groupthink is pretty much at cult levels, you can never actually discuss this shit openly anymore except on places like /leftpol/

>In addition to this there is the horrible — the really disquieting — prevalence of cranks wherever Socialists are gathered together. One sometimes gets the impression that the mere words "Socialism" and "Communism" draw towards them with magnetic force every fruit-juice drinker, nudist, sandal-wearer, sex-maniac, Quaker, "Nature Cure" quack, pacifist, and feminist in England. - Orwell.

Kek is how "lol" appears in orcish in World of Warcraft

(((We))'ve also come to hate memes here(the core original boards) on as well. Popularity is seen as death of creativity, not moderation.

Yes and I already addressed that, it's been around before "top kek", but the relation is accidental. People didn't make the connection until a year after "top kek" was a thing, and people on Veeky Forums were far more likely to use the original "kekekekeke", from which WoW's "kek" was derived, before the spread of "top kek".

>Veeky Forums will not have the old users to fall back on. as most have went to other sites.
That's a meme that does not reflect reality, not on the core boards.

Blame Deleuze and Guattari. Possibly Ranciere as well.
Also I enjoyed the Road to Wigan Pier immensely. It's probably a cliché to say that it's still pertinent. I suppose people have always been saying that.

...

youtube.com/watch?v=dPb-PN9F2Pc

Anyone else remember the Boston Fail Party?

This is correct
I can vaguely remember a time when kek wasn't used a lot and lel was the go to expression of amusement

Every funny meme ever made game from Veeky Forums. Any time someone says “reddit meme” it’s a signal to everyone else that they themselves are reddit, because everybody knows that Veeky Forums starts every single fucking meme and reddit is a glorified copypasta dump

>mentally ill nutjob BO destroyed /leftypol/ and turned it into a idpol tankie circlejerk
Overly dramatic as the people you denounced later lol

Depends on who will win the coming war

I really don't want to sound too dramatic but Veeky Forums was pretty instrumental in the period of the internet right before social media made the internet 100% for normal, average people and not just geeks. I mean, I can remember back when I was a goofy nerdy kid I used to shitpost all around newgrounds, hobbyist forums like Ultimate-Guitar's, flashplayer before it was UGOplayer or whatever the fuck and Veeky Forums was always mentioned when some new meme would be born. I mean the old shit like longcat, Orly owl, caturday, etc.
I noticed right when I left for University in 2011 that ___ University Memes would start popping on facebook, and that's when I first noticed that image macros exploded in popularity all over the internet.
I never really visited Reddit much, so I don't know how much it has to do with any of this happening, but I do remember feeling kind of weird that my awkward dark corner of the internet seemed to have been found, and now the internet wasn't just for geeky people anymore.

Baneposting is something I have only seen on Veeky Forums

This

How many pages do you think the eventual Veeky Forums Eyewitness history book will devote to this?

Veeky Forums never was, and never will be relevant.

who?

Millions of people from all over the world visit this site everyday, it's on the top 20 mostly used sites on the Internet. Eventually someone from this shithole is going to do something worthy of being remembered by history.

Meta discussion is usually not well seen here, but we're on the home stretch for 20 years, it's going to get harder and harder to avoid the longer this site goes on for.

>leftypol isn't SJW
go fuck yourself, you anti white shill

Lets see
>Your board owner is a tranny and thus a SJW
>leftypol supports soros
>leftypol supports uncontrolled immigration of """refugees""" into europe
>leftypol worships black supremacism and constantly praises black supremacist groups like the Black Panthers
>leftypol supports BLM
>leftypol members donated to BLM
>ban Strasserists even though they're objectively socialist
>leftypol believes that white homogeneity is the supporting pillars of "traditional values" thus needs to be destroyed to bring about their "revolution"
>leftypol supports the """"migrants""""
Leftypol is SJW as they come

I just want to know what the hell the guy is doing at Google. Theories are that they hired him so no other competitor or startup would capitalize on his unique skillset and knowledge. I hope he achieves something beyond Veeky Forums, it would be cool to have an user Zuck.

Also he did nothing wrong and should have been even more brutal with /poo/ and GG

you post-2014 newfags are the most disgusting of them all, literally the embodiement of immigrants from MENA destroying civilization

Why do you want Veeky Forums to your anti white leftypol safespace?

you have to go back stormnigger

not your safespace, pathetic nigger worshiper

there is nothing wrong with worshipping your superiors, my little 56%er

>the leftypol cuck literally worships niggers
HAHAHAHA

>Veeky Forums can vote in the 2022 midterm elections
Who're we voting for lads?

yes? dont be ashamed of your hiberno-african heritage, Marcus Jimenez McSmith

Ah, a fellow lover of the big black cock.

How does your love for feminism fit into your love for niggers?

Jim Webb

SA goons were the reason this place was so shit back in 08. Literally plebbit tier humor, or better said Reddit humor evolved out of SA humor. See pic related, that's the kind of trash Goons unironically found funny back in the day and spammed /b/ with nonstop. The fact you niggers thought you ever belonged to this place, let alone became an integral part of it, is retardedly hilarious. You have always been nothing but tourists.

Top lel was a meme on /sp/ and someone discovered some shitty Tukish candy called top kek, that's the whole story.

Why the fuck do you keep putting 'top' in there? Its lol ->lel -> kek. Regardless of top.

I believe it originates with this reaction image, a shooped screenshot from the show Workaholics. It originally said Top Gun.

Lol we all know the episode. It was never top lol -> top lel -> top kek. Kek was spawned from lol. Then they just threw top kek on the hat because it was funny. People were saying lel amd kek before that episode came out in 20(12?)

Don't act like early 2000s Veeky Forums wasn't current reddit. A lot of the lolrandumcatsXD stereotypical internet humor was born in this shithole nearly 2 decades ago.

That's what I'm trying to tell you. People posting that sort of shit back then weren't native to this website, they were just SomethingAwful tourists, just like modern /pol/ is full of reddit tourists. Real Veeky Forums was basically rotten.com combined with anime, not these faggy demotivators.

Still irrelevant you fucking nigger

They were here since the very beginning, i'm not sure it's fair to call them tourists.

considering that moot was an SA tourist himself

I wish I was older and around for those days honestly. I love Veeky Forums aside from the nazis and flood of newfag scum. I only started going on this site last summer and you have to sift through a lot of nonsense and garbage to find good content now. Makes it more special when you do tho.

Death of Veeky Forums was when deanon shit got introduced and by that I mean flag boards and absolute cancerboards like /soc/ and /lgbt/ where people are unironically encouraged to post their face and personal contact info. Veeky Forums is basically Facebook/Reddit at this point.

>flood of newfag scum
>I only started going on this site last summer
Shit bait

Unless you regularly go on Veeky Forums and have taken time and effort to understand the subtle culture, you won't get Veeky Forums. My dad always says this site will make me a white nationalist but that's not the case. The worst thing that ever happened to this site was /pol/ because we will forever be associated with their vile nature and plagued by their ilk.

Jewt was the biggest newfaggot of them all which is ironic considering he created the website.

Imagine caring about or even knowing this much about three fucking letters
Also 25 year rule
Stop believing what people with rose tinted glasses say. Nostalgia is a dangerous game my friend
Here's a test, unless you're like 35+ this is gonna hurt like a motherfucker
youtu.be/MxPuqjrhuFg

It's where everything went downhill
youtube.com/watch?v=bXjnakAlF-s
youtube.com/watch?v=KAExa9P7hME