Why did Bulgaria betrayed the Axis and didn't deport the Jews from its mainland...

It's the same thing with Vichy France. There really are today french people who believe that the Vichy regime protected french jews. Despite the fact that "oops, there goes the non-french jews :^)".

How the fuck would deporting the jews have prevented them getting flattened by the red army? Are you high?

The difference is that Macedonia wasn't formally under Bulgaria. Its status would only be resolved after the war. Bulgaria was given administration over the region, but it didn't have full power over it. That's why Macedonian Jews were deported.

My grandfather was a Bulgarian Jew who was 8 years old in 1943. He emigrated to Israel in 1948 so I took great interest in the matter. There were several factors which I'll green text

>First of all Jews have been living in the Balkans before Bulgars ever arrived
>They were part of the two Bulgarian Empires
>There was even a Jewish queen consort of Bulgaria
>When Ottomans subjugated the Bulgarian Empire a lot of jews were deported from Spain to Bulgaria and along with the Bulgarians they were second class citizens in the empire so they lived together as the same people for almost 5 centuries.
>After the liberation of Bulgaria in 1878 and the constitution of 1879 all citizens of the Kingdom of Bulgaria were equal regardless of colour, religion and creed
>Jews in Bulgaria were generally poor folk so the Nazi doctrine of "the evil jews robbed us" had no substance
>The Bulgarian orthodox church was impetus in its support of the Jews

Thanks, bro.

That was very interesting, I didn't know half of it. Thanks, user.

>administration over the region, but it didn't have full power over it.
Yet they fully complied with the deportation orders

No problem. If you are interested in the subject I recommend you read "Beyond Hitler's grasp" by Michael Bar-Zohar and various articles by Aaron M. Cohen including his lecture called "The Power of One"

Romania be like: "Hold my beer."

Elaborate pic? What did he do exactly?

Because the King had some balls and didn't want to murder loyal citizens for no reason?

I assume he's suggesting that the communists in bulgaria that took power after the war were all secretly Jewish. Even though if you look at the BCP's politburo in 1947 (the year they officially took power) none were Jews.

Odessa Massacre.

Bulgaria dindu nuffin, Bulgaria wuz good boys

youtube.com/watch?v=GWRJpwQ5n_4

>First of all Jews have been living in the Balkans before Bulgars ever arrived

me be like:"you have to go back"

Because Bulgaria never really bought their autism. They also refused to actually invade Yugoslavia and Greece, though they were happy to take spoils for free.

Romania's Iron Guard government was independently responsible for murdering 250,000-380,000 Jews in the Soviet Union while at the same time repeatedly refused to deport the 300,000 Jews living in Romania proper to Nazi extermination camps. As a result, Romanian Jewry, with the exception of one major pogrom in Iași, survived the Holocaust almost completely intact. This makes Antonescu simultaneously both the worst non-German Holocaust perpetrator and the greatest potential Righteous Among the Nations nominee which he theoretically could qualify for.

>Jews unironically call their servants "The Righteous Among Nations"

I've been thinking of starting a petition for Israel to give Antonescu a Yad Vashem award and having /pol/ spam the shit out of it to get attention. All for the keks.

"The Axis" wasn't an alliance, they were just whoever was left after the actual alliance on the other side came into being.

>Italy only joins the war once France is lost
>Japan declares war on Russia when Germany signs cooperation deal with Russia
>later when Germany declares war on Russia, Japan signs a non-aggression pact
>Bulgaria sends zero armies anywhere, just occupies land it wants and holds it
>Romania has a third of its territory forced to Bulgaria and Hungary, and its oil stolen, and still remains an Axis "ally"
>Greece is a friendly fascist government, and it still gets invaded randomly
>Austrian fascist party is butchered by the German fascist party
>Italy signs separate peace, Germany invades it
>Germany selling arms, armor and training to the Chinese as Japan invades them

There was no "The Axis". They didn't communicate at all, didn't cooperate. It was just Germany vassalizing countries where it could, and signing non-aggression pacts it would later break.

To be fair, these were all majority ethnic bulgarian areas. Also they were sparsely populated, and not industrialized.
It was a national question thing, not a geopolitical power grab. The most valuable land was Dobrugea, which they got diplomatically, after losing it to Romania when the latter broke a neutrality pact to invade during the Balkan Wars.

yes, but Germany itself got betrayed all the time too

such was the period, alliances switching all the time, very chaotic

That'd be hilarious t b h

sort of like the Napoleonic wars really, Hitler was pretty much the Napoleon of his time, except with racial autism instead of liberalism

Germany betrayed Czechia, Poland, USSR, Italy, Greece, Romania, Austria, Hungary, Luxemburg, Netherlands, Denmark, Finland, Sweden.
Or do you forget the promises they made to only retake former Germany territory, then annex whole states? Or how the anti-Comintern defensive pact failed to react to Finland and Baltic invasions, despite industrial and economic aid and bonds between the states? Pay for Germany's protection, they get in bed with the guy assaulting you.

>betrayed
sure if you really stretch the definition of the term

i guess you can say all those countries betrayed germany first for getting in their way of lebenstraum if you really wanna play that game

There is international law. Making a deal, and then doing the opposite, is a crime. Giving Romania na ultimatum to return Dobrugea or you invade, and then after they return Dobrogea you invade, is a crime. Guaranteeing the independence of Romania, and then taking a large chunk of land away from it to give to Hungary is a crime.
Hitler committed to paper many deals that he ignored later. Most famously the anti-Comintern defensive pact that he didn't honor, the deal to stop expanding and demanding with Britain France, and the USSR cooperation pact that he broke by invading.

>Romania's Iron Guard government was independently responsible for murdering 250,000-380,000 Jews in the Soviet Union...

The absolute state of Veeky Forums.
The Iron Guard government functioned between September 1940 and February 1941, barely 6 months. It had nothing to do with the campaign in the Soviet Union when these events occurred.
They were removed from power after the January 1941 unrest and attempted coup.
You're talking exclusively about Antonescu's rule.

>German fascist party

The Nazis did fancy themselves the german fascist party.

No they didn't you Amerimutt fucktard

Yes, they did, Mohamed. Hitler presented the Nazi party as German fascism, after the Fascist party in Italy succeeded. He met Mussolini, the party shared the same structure, it had similar ideals on paper.

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>risk your life (and he was probably poisoned for it) to save tens of thousands of jews
>decades later nerds on an anime forum bitch you didn't save more
>tfw

Show me a direct quote where Hitler claims to be a fascist you obese fuck.

Define fascism. See what Germany did at the time. Compare the two. Stop being retarded.

I don't need to define fascism you retard. I'm asking you to show me a quote where Hitler CLAIMS TO BE A FASCIST.

Konrad Heiden's contemporary biography of Hitler says he didn't want the party to be called National Socialist, he wanted it to be called German Fascist Party.

>n-n---not a direct quote!!!
Her Hitler didn't update his Facebook much back then, and of course in front of mobs of people who thought Fascism is too conservative and not revolutionary enough, and who were just done fighting a war against Italy who they say back stabbed them he didn't say his party is a knock off of the Italian ruling party.
You are being obtuse in the face of truth, trying to "win" an internet argument instead of learn.

Hitler didn't even found the NS party, Anton Drexler did. Check out what he had to say about fascism.

>fascism
>conservative
This is your brain on McDonalds

Drexler founded a generic socialist party, the worker's something something party. Hitler took it over and made it fascist.

>generic socialist party
>except his doctrines were 99% identical to Hitler's
Stop trying to pretend you know what you're talking about, you're not very good at it.

Is that why Karl Harrer resigned from the party when Hitler started making changes? Because it was the same? Fuck off.

You don't even fucking know who Karl Harrer was and why he resigned because if you did you wouldn't be spouting this shit. Did you discover his name 5 minutes ago on wikipedia?

Did Hitler not introduce the autocratic "fuhrer princip" shit to the party, that had until then been a democratic committee affair?
Did Hitler not create a military wing for the party?
Did Hitler not create a youth recruitment wing for the party?
Did Hitler not introduce religion to the party, when it was secular until then?
Did Hitler not introduce the swastika, a good luck symbol, to a party that had until then been strongly anti-superstitions?
Did Harrer not leave because of these changes, and moving away from a secular revolutionary party to what he thought is a conservative autocratic party?

When are you going to stop insulting and start arguing?

Once again, tell me if you know who Karl Harrer was. Because you obviously don't. If you actually knew who he was you'd INSTANTLY realize why you sound like a total dumbass You're such a catastrophic idiot you're counting on the ignorance of your opponent and think this gives you the liberty to make shit up.

>zero arguments: the consecutive post

Answer my question. Do you know who Karl Harrer was?

Yes, I know who Karl Harrer was. Now go back several posts and stop responding with arguments instead of insults. Your posts are just "lol ur dumb :D". I won't reply until you change that.

No, you do not know who Karl Harrer was. Stop pretending. He was the founding member of Thule Society which was anything but secular and anything but revolutionary. Most original DAP members were Thule members, nationalist hardliners, WW1 revanchists and rabid antisemites. Do you know why Drexler rejected fascism? Because he thought it was Jewish.
Also the preposterous implication that Harrer would leave because he was offended by the swastika and superstitions, the man who was the founding member of a mystical, esoteric society with a swastika as their main symbol. You fucking brainlet!

The Thule Society was anti-communist and anti-Jewish, but it wasn't conservative or promoting autocracy. Stop dividing the political spectrum into "jewish communists" and "everything else".
As far as the political party DAP, it was a secular, democratic, racial theory party. It wanted to be scientific, empiricist, progressive,to deal away with aristocracy, to remove non-germans (which was anti-imperialist thought), and so on. Meanwhile what Hitler introduced was more conservative, pro-autocracy, pro-empire, and so on. Fascist corporatism was effectively a remixed guild system, not the command economy old DAP members wanted.

Brainlet, you don't know, etc.

Bulgaria is also the only Axis nation which had more land after the war than it did before.

Technically false, since the land it gained it got BEFORE the war (diplomatic solution).

You said the DAP ("worker's something something" in your words, idiot) wad a "generic socialist party". It obviously wasn't, now you realized it so you're moving the goalposts out the ballpark to save face.
>scientific, empiricist, progressive
Wrong. They were counter-revolutionary conservatives, anti-materialists (with the exception of Feder), philosophical traditionalists and esoteric mysticists. Close to people like Spengler and other nembers of Konservative Revolution but far more on the LARPy esoteric magic side.
>to deal away with aristocracy
Honest question, are you confusing the DAP with the Strasser faction of the NSDAP? Because otherwise I have no idea how can you say something this stupid. Strasser brothers were neither the founding members nor were their ideas in any way similar to original DAP (once again save for Feder's economic programme that wanted to abolish usury and finance capitalism).
>democratic
My sides.
>Fascist corporatism
Harrer himself promoted class cooperation so Germany could rise again you idiot, that's why he joined the DAP in the first place.

The Romanian Iron Guard government only lasted for 3 months winter of 40-41, retard.

Antonescu ruled without them during the war.

>implying Codreanu wasn't guiding Antonescu from beyond the grave

the Romanian army killed more Jews in a single day than any SS massacre

>implying Codreanu wasn't guiding Antonescu from beyond the grave