>Does China still exist, or did it die when Song fell>

t. Jap

of course it still exists, Chinese civilization not only survived the mongol conquest but was strengthened by the adversity of it and emerged more self assured than ever. Even though the Mongol caste system placed confucian scholars below street cleaners there was never a shortage of people studying confucianism during the Yuan.

It is unfortunate that the Ming were far less culturally vibrant and VASTLY more authoritarian than the Song, but it would be ridiculous to say they were not Chinese civilization. Really I think most of that has to do with the rough and egotistical personality of the Hongwu emperor himself, which set the precedent for all of the Ming and Qing successors.

Hongwu really was an exceptional person though, his life story is really insane, rising from absolutely nothing to Emperor. Did you know that during his reign after he executed his prime minister for plotting a coup against him (we only have the emperor's side of the story, so who knows what the reality was, but whatever) he eliminated the position of prime minister and made it a capital crime to ever suggest reestablishing it. He then ran the 6 ministries personally, and read hundreds of pages of reports every single day.

This

Favorite dynasty, go. No pleb answers like Han, Tang, or Song.

>if you break eggs the omelette doesn't count!

Xi.

Xi

the song dynasty had a commercialistic paradise of an economy and a great navy but their army wasnt good. too bad the ming didnt pick up the good bits
also top jooj
>name the best dynasty without naming the best dynasties

Because the reasons are always basic.
>goat aesthetics
>multiculturalism
>thicc girls
>inventions

Italy is not Roman empire.
iran is not Persia.
people's republic of china is not china.

the CPC holds the Mandate whether you want them to or not

>economics
>army
>conquests
ur asking to choose the dynasties without the things tht makes dynasties great

Favorite dynasty != "great" dynasty

which roman empire, which persia, or which china?

no china is another china, but all of them can be said to be chinas.

>>Mandate of Heaven
>>Held by Communists
Nope. The CPC will collapse once the Chinese economy sees a serious downturn. The government in question only really holds any legitimacy in the eyes of the average person over there because of economic growth.

Xi Dyanasty is coming..

for wat reason wud a person favor a non great dynasty over a great dynasty

>The government in question only really holds any legitimacy in the eyes of the average person over there because of economic growth.
whoa it's almost like that's how the Mandate has always worked

>a-any day now the chinese will fall

It's funny how only Americans subscribe to this narrative.

china without dynasty is not china.

The government who destroyed whole culture, hestory, tradition and moral of china can called china ?
it is difficult.

Not really a dynasty but Ba-Shu for the ayy lmao bronzes

this, fuck the Yuan

and qing and ccp

carnegieendowment.org/2017/11/27/big-bet-at-heart-of-xi-jinping-s-new-deal-pub-74847

Wrong.

>le you can destroy culture meme

How exactly? Rural illiterate Chinese farmers today are literally the same rural Chinese farmers in 1948.

sadly, china's fateful enemy is TRUE china today

>The government in question only really holds any legitimacy in the eyes of the average person over there because of economic growth.
So...

Basically the CCP DOES have the Mandate of Heaven.

>Can't make an omelette without killing tens of millions of your own citizens with retarded meme policies

There is a reason Chinese politicians pivoted away from Maoist policies the moment he died.

Mao still turned China into a modern country that was a force to be reckoned with though.

Stalin also fucked up a lot but in the meanwhile he turned a peasant country into the second greatest modern power in the world with full literacy, education for everyone, extreme improvement in healthcare, one of the greatest militaries, doing away with tremendous amounts of poverty et cetera.

You don't get to lead a huge country for decades without doing some things right and being in some ways extremely capable. Dismissing world leaders as fools because they weren't perfect is silly.

but...other east asian country modernise without killing million's of own people i think ?

WE WUZ

preach comrade

>yea he killed 70 million ppl but nobodys perfect i guess

Are they really soulless insectoids over there?

>Mandate of Heaven

Fuck off with that meme shit. It's cringe as fuck.