>have an arranged marriage >still openly fuck prostitutes/concubines even if your wife knows
can someone explain why the nobility and aristocrats of the past used to do this? whats the point of the arranged marriage if you're going to be unfaithful anyway?
Aiden Evans
Are you not aware of the fact that major arranged marriages were done so for political/dynastic reasons?
Nathan Garcia
yeah sure, but weren't they aware that unfaithfulness came with the package?
Gabriel Torres
People didn't marry to love each other
Blake Flores
love is love
Jaxson Long
wives are for dynasties, lovers are for pleasure
Ayden Evans
yeah but if people know there is unfaithfulness going on whats the point of keeping up the charade?
Oliver Robinson
Because nobles are degenerates, if you marry you stay loyak itd that easy.
Ryan Price
Politics is more important than your fragile feelings. You gotta cheat on the down low because it ruins the image your marriage is supposed to project.
Dominic Cox
>had to marry some inbred incel bitch >keep to concubines after you're done with your marital duties
Seems pretty logical to me.
>have a voluntary, mutual marriage >still openly fuck prostitutes/concubines even if your wife knows
Now, thats retarded.
Gabriel Martinez
women are incapable of love. love was seen as a bad thing in antiquity. beeing dependent on your women, means that she can easily manipulate you, which is why nearly all men had sex with prostitutes
Jack Torres
Males being unfaithful doesn't matter as they can't trick their wives into thinking the bastard child is theirs
Isaac Lopez
Well then no reason to be jealous of the wife if she fucks her own men on the side.
Robert Morris
I don't understand what is bugging you. Arranged marriages are done without the consent of the people marrying ; Now, sometimes you're lucky and the two manage to fall in love. Or, at the very least, they grow a mutual affection that allows them to do their duties and raise a family together, which will be very useful for your futur heirs not to be complete social failures. But sometimes your marriage is loveless, and sometimes it is even worse than that ; And then what is annoying with you falling in love with someone else that is not your wife?
Liam Barnes
In addition to what others have said the point of exclusivity in a marriage is mostly about the woman. Though some powerful women like Empress Catherine and any number of unfaithful women broke this rule.
Joseph Cooper
>women are incapable of love. love was seen as a bad thing in antiquity. beeing dependent on your women, means that she can easily manipulate you, which is why nearly all men had sex with prostitutes
Ayden Scott
Its not out of jealousy its respect, if a woman cheats on you it means she doesnt respect you very much and she needs to be punished for that, but a man can cheat anytime he wishs because women are made to be stepped on.
Ethan Hernandez
>exclusivity in a marriage is mostly about the woman
Crap like that is why feminism got into power. Women are people too, and they don't give a crap about your insecurities, they want to live their life with a man who loves them not some piece of shit who doesn't care about them.
Ayden Phillips
>Its a retard that thinks if a girl wants to constantly fuck him its love episode No thats called lust, you can tell the difference if you actually been in love with a woman and was balls of the walls horny for a random slut in the club. For one thing a woman that feels "love" would never cheat on her husband because her husband would everything to her and Im not talking about his dick every aspect of him would be positive to her EVEN HIS FLAWS and she would go berserk the idea of losing him. In constrast women only feel lust so their interest in male mate or female mates is based on the temporary motions of their pussies thats why very handsome men can still be cheated on even though it boggles the mind, women get used to a cock and their vagina demands new stimulation so they look for new cock even if the old cock is Chad thundercock.
Charles Walker
>im going to disprove your argument by attacking your persona which i dont even know
oh no, how will i ever recover. if you doubt look what the ancient greeks had to write about women
Sebastian Jackson
>that rant >Chad thundercock.
Stay mad virgin.
Maybe stop basing your views on what some old men wrote thousands of years ago?
Brayden Brown
>they want to live their life with a man who loves them not some piece of shit who doesn't care about them.
that is your projection. from what i've read women would prefer to live in a rich harem, than poor women.
women for example do not realise love hormones when kissing men
Logan Perez
you are retarded there are very few men like that and obviously very few women
Jacob Torres
Chad thundercock refers to the genetic elite of men not just any dude who gets laid. The facts are women dont feel love only lust for men or women. Some women do feel love but thats a tiny genetic minority and these women are often called stalkers or insane.
Logan White
No you are retarded because you tell love from lust you dumbfuck, notice female "love" songs are basically a sex fantasy censored, while male love songs are deep emotional addiction to a single woman.
Anthony Ross
at last i truly see
John Smith
>Maybe stop basing your views on what some old men wrote thousands of years ago?
denying intelligent mens words, while listening to a "feminist". yeah sure, why not
or its either how much he has hurt her, or what she can do for him. women do not feel love
Oliver Reyes
>i've read women would prefer to live in a rich harem, than poor women
That doesn't mean they don't want their rich man not to love them and exclusively them. You see the chick in 50 Shades of Grey sharing her man with someone else? No, she doesn't, because she wants him to love her and no one else. Him being also rich is an added bonus. How could monogamy and the middle class spread if between an average dude who loves you and rich guy who doesn't give a shit about you, women had always chosen the latter? Women hate sharing men.
Lincoln Butler
Women dont know what love is, they think its the same as lust. They cant fathom why dudes suddenly turn into doormats for them beside those guys being "creepy clingers".
Jacob Rogers
>what she can do for him >not love
incels are retarded
Ayden White
HES SO TALL AND HANDSOME AS HELL
BAD BAD BAD BAD BOY YOU MAKE ME FEEL SO GOOD
Christian Jenkins
See what I mean they cant comprehend love.
Grayson Murphy
You don't comprehend love, incel You're supposed to like your partner and want to make them happy
Gavin Hernandez
>That doesn't mean they don't want their rich man not to love them and exclusively them. You see the chick in 50 Shades of Grey sharing her man with someone else? No, she doesn't, because she wants him to love her and no one else. there its mostly about securing ressources. when you think about women in terms of what they do for reproductive success, everything makes sense. of course they might feel jealousy that doesnt equal love.
they way women treat men who are in love with them, proves the above.
>How could monogamy and the middle class spread if between an average dude who loves you and rich guy who doesn't give a shit about you, women had always chosen the latter? keep in mind that women were for a majority of the time paired of with another men.
now with sexual liberation you see the trend. she has sex with the highest men she can, normally she would get pregnant, but the alpha would most likely leave her. she in turn goes to the next best guy, has sex with him and passes the baby of as his. quite ingenious when you think about it.
Tyler Perry
>You're supposed to like your partner and want to make them happy Ah yes love is nothing but dopamine releases, you fucking subhuman gender jesus christ.
Oliver Thomas
>they way women treat men who are in love with them
Reciprocity is key, nigger. You people pester women who don't like you, and naturally when someone you're not interested in pesters you that's annoying, so they respond to you coldly - and you think that's how women treat everyone. How about finding a girl who likes you in the first place? You gotta drop the woman-hating though, that repels women.
Julian Jackson
oh mispelled that i meant what he can do for her. in terms of reproduction it doesnt make sense for women to do anything for their men
>incels are retarded you cant know that. you probably think that by repeating what women say, you can secure a partner. tip: look at what "alphas" are doing to women
Thomas Young
Its all temporary who gives a fuck about a girl liking you? They never like "you" only your cock thats all.
William Rivera
>love is nothing but dopamine releases
Nope it's a mix of oxytocin, vasopressin, adrenaline, testosterone, oestrogen, dopamine yes and serotonin. You're thinking of heroin.
Lincoln Howard
You mean male love, not female "love".
Dylan Cooper
To stupid women in this thread the very existence of their lover satisfies them, the fact these women keeping saying WELL UH MY MAN HAS TO MAKE ME FEEL GOOD shows all they are feeling is lust.
Brody Smith
Nope, all love.
Jonathan Howard
Why would anyone stay with someone who makes them miserable?
Liam Wood
The love you feel for a woman is nothing comparable to what you feel towards family.
Adam Cox
I have no clue why women love violent abusive sociopaths, you tell me.
Julian Robinson
>Reciprocity is key, nigger. You people pester women who don't like you, and naturally when someone you're not interested in pesters you that's annoying, so they respond to you coldly - and you think that's how women treat everyone. How about finding a girl who likes you in the first place? You gotta drop the woman-hating though, that repels women.
oooh you are female ok got it. i didnt even mention my experience with females. what the fuck are you on about?
Jordan White
>Its all temporary
Prove it. I can deny your argument by pointing out to you that happy, faithful couples who are still together after 30-40+ years exist.
Anthony Wilson
women love drama
Blake Lewis
But they leave abusive sociopaths? Unless they're mentally ill themselves. Not all couples are like you're trying to paint though.
Alexander Murphy
>Faithful HAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAAAAAAA
Jayden Richardson
Your woman is part of your family.
Sebastian Bell
Yep, faithful.
Chase Martinez
Nice meme most men love their mothers far more than their wives.
Matthew Hughes
They still fuck them after leaving them.
Robert Stewart
Who left the cuck shed unlocked?
Juan Long
You have the marriage to get 5-10 children, hoping that 3-4 actually survives to fertile age. Having kids was so important, that nothing written in the 19th century even touches on the subject, to the depth it had. Its something modernites would not understand, and i frankly do not understand it well either.
Because you don't understand the focus. They used marriage for kids, not marriage for loyalty.
Quoting it won't change the idea behind the argument. To "love" somebody, you also need to share something with them. If your society is segregated, to the point where you can't appreciate raising your kids, there is nothing to share. Mortality is another dealbreaker, since it means you need a lot of kids.
Hunter Robinson
>a women in her late years can easily find a new partner this is you right now
a woman is biologically designed to abandon their man, if they can have a better one (unless there are children, but even then its not because of the man, but rather that the better one, would not accept other mens children). to women we are nothing but utilities. why do you think they hate "sexual objectification". its projection on their part
Daniel Powell
> Oedipus Complex: the post
Owen Adams
>Because you don't understand the focus. They used marriage for kids, not marriage for loyalty. this
the Ancient Greeks would constantly joke around saying that their women regularly cuck them
Nolan Richardson
Not always. Those you talk about are the mentally ill daddy issues ones, and it's telling that's the only kind of woman you people can ever interact with. Like attracts like I guess.
Michael Gonzalez
>be guy >get married >Come home from work >See wife in bed >Take off clothes and start fingering her >"not now honey Im not in the mood" >finger her some more >"honey Im really not in the mood" >mentally go wtf >"Whats wrong honey?" >"Im just not feeling right" >"Then feel right already" >"Excuse me look I had a stressful day at the office I dont really feel like it tonight" >"You never feel like it this is the fifth time in a week what the fuck babe?" >"Sex isnt everything baby" >"But you fucked your exboyfriends anytime they wanted so why cant you do this for me" >"Its not me its you honey Im just not feeling right" >"Oh please just say it already" >"What" >"You dont love me anymore" >"Oh baby dont be stupid of course I love you" >"THEN FUCK ME RIGHT NOW!" >"My head really hurts" >"You gotta be kidding me I married you because we loved eachother and you cant just give me sex once a week what the fuck?"
Michael Barnes
Here is a fact your mother is one of the few women who can care about you unconditionally.
Grayson Howard
All women have daddy issues.
Nolan Fisher
No, they don't.
Ayden Brown
i wouldnt say that aswell. a mother views you as an extension of herself. have you heard about that guy who hanged himself, but was revived? he now lives like a potato and wants to die, but his mother still doesnt grant him this wish
Charles Ortiz
>No, I dont Thats what you meant to say cunt.
Carter Roberts
t. has never asked a girl who her daddy is
they all love it dude
Blake Adams
Oh this is interesting the subhuman woman cant even comprehend familial love either.
John Sanders
That's how you raise shitty incels. Socially adjusted men have mothers who didn't shy from punishing them as they deserved when they stepped out of line.
Levi Collins
The fact husbands have to work for anything in their marriage just to fuck their wife proves women dont feel love at all just lust. Women who suggest swinging, cuckolding or anything that doesnt involve fucking just their husband are proving all they feel is lust.
Benjamin Roberts
No, they don't.
Hudson Peterson
How fucking stupid, the kind of men who step over their mothers tend to get laid alot. It shows they have a low level of empathy making them immune to female mind games making them "a chase" to the subhuman cunt.
Isaiah Lopez
women are incapable of feeling love. only us men can do that, because that ensures that we stay with one women to raise children and not abandon them.
you know whats even worse? think about all the boys raised by single mothers to be pussies. did they do that so their sistas can more easily manipulate us? her father is the direct male influence on her. she will seek a man who is similar to him and vice versa for sons
Ryder Bailey
That's not daddy issues. If the father is good, she will seek a good man in turn. Daddy issues is when the father is shitty and prevents healthy development in the child.
>vice versa for sons
Explains why you people seem to seek out shitty women.
Isaac Cook
Men are supposed to walkover their moms once they hit puberty thats when a human male in a tribe no longer needs his mom to live he can survive on his own just fine with the rest of the tribe.The reason for this was because no stern parental figure like a father existed and prehistoric boys were more feral and cruel than our soyboys today so once they got taller than mom they went full YOU BELONG TO ME NOW BITCH and treated their moms like shit sometimes even raped them or their sisters. Only when a father is around do the boys submit to mommy out of free will its in the nature of boys to defy their mothers as it shows they are above female mind games. Also ever notice how us boys use to bully our sisters when we were younger this is a relic of our natural misogynistic behavior that has been slowly bred out of us due to beta males breeding.
Ayden Morris
>If the father is good, she will seek a good man in turn. Women dont want good men they want completely evil savages. Tell me cunt who tingles you more a handsome dude in an office or a handsome dude who killed other humans beings for fun and has tattoos and a criminal record.
Noah Mitchell
>Women dont want good men they want completely evil savages
The dude that told you to fuck off in high school had a reason to do that user, you were being a creep that wouldn't leave Anne alone.
Nathaniel Rogers
my god, it truly is a roastie. their nature just betray their thoughts. i pity them. Plato said that immoral men get reincarnated as women. i somehow belive this kek
kek roastie, who do you think you are dealing with? im not thinking to myself that i can manipulate a woman, why do you think you can outsmart me? everything you wrote, is not verifable and never even happened in history. "men" raised by single mothers are automatically pussies. why do you hate us this much lady? that you would turn us into weak and dependable children.
Dylan Myers
I hate women so much, this is one of the main reasons they try to fuck you up FOR FUN, they teach you to not be assertive with girls then call you a creepy loser when you show restraint with women.
Besides that guy I gave isnt someone I know its based on the fact that criminals are the most loved by women in EVERY SINGLE HUMAN RACE.
Ayden Moore
>be me, prince of the Kingdom of fuckingstan >25 years old, young, rich, and bedding all the fair maidens in the kingdom >day to marry finally comes now that the arranged wife has finally been debuted >she's some chinless thing, with a round body and too big of a nose >protest, but father wants an alliance with the Bubonicstons >be forced to marry and stick my willy into her under God's eye >go back to fucking your favorite serving girl
Dylan Gutierrez
White men raised by single mothers, black/hispanic/middle eastern/anything that isnt white or asian men raised by single moms are more cruel than black men raised by both parents. The absence of a father is supposed to make male offspring behave more feral since daddy's brute strength keeps that masculine ferocity in check.
Asher Bennett
>they teach you to not be assertive with girls then call you a creepy loser when you show restraint with women. good point
women are truly horrible
Jeremiah Ramirez
Its also their fault for most incels, these dudes are brainwashed their entire life to be kind hearted sweeties to cold heartless cunts who want uncaring assholes to breed with them. Rather than admit they love evil men women will still say the nice guy wasnt nice enough, these nice guys are not faking it they are just kind men confused why women say they like kind guys but fuck jerks constantly. The waifu bullshit is because these incels are sick of the lies about real women and want their monogamous fairy tale to be real in their mind.
When men are raised to treat women like shit like most black men globally they tend to very successful with them on average.
Julian Rogers
>The absence of a father is supposed to make male offspring behave more feral since daddy's brute strength keeps that masculine ferocity in check. >people who grew up without any male influence are manly wew lass
i really dont know why i do this to myself
yup learned this the hard way aswell. also what shocks me, is that everytime when women are "liberated" they push for no fault divorce, banning of paternity tests, free sex, shaming, child support and alimony.
women are wicked. I pity incels though
Aaron Bailey
The father is supposed to imposed civility in their offspring while mothers simply nurture them, once the male offspring is too mature for nurture to give it satisfaction it becomes savage and turns on the mother doing whatever it wants.
Once again it is only in whites and asians that single moms produce pussies, in all other races they produce sociopathic criminal assholes that women want to fuck.
Michael White
Monarchs mostly are pedos its a genetic weakness from inbreeding look it up
Brody Cooper
these guys are coerced into gang culture. these guys kill people and then go home to hug their moms.
you have no idea what you are talking about. >that women want to fuck. so you do admit you like evil men?
Evan Young
They dont love their moms they see mommy as a magic food creator for them, they could kill their moms without losing any sleep period. Thats the irony of single moms they create kids that want nothing to do with them. >coerced No they become gangsters because they have a low amount of empathy meaning they will do anything that can cause instant gratification like killing or stealing.
Asher Myers
>They dont love their moms they see mommy as a magic food creator for them, they could kill their moms without losing any sleep period. only a woman could think something like that. wow. just wow. what kind of projection is that roastvbeef?
>No they become gangsters because they have a low amount of empathy meaning they will do anything that can cause instant gratification like killing or stealing. yeah and because of peer pressure
Ayden Anderson
It’s always amusing to me that people on this site think >HAHAHAHA Is an argument
Luke Watson
r/incel
William Jackson
wow you sure showed me. what a great argumentation.
Dominic Sanchez
Your entire argument has just been screeching about women, and then calling people who disagree with you a woman. So not really an argument at all.
Ethan Phillips
then tell me where i am wrong. dont just throw some fag shit in there
Ethan Bell
Because it’s all based on anecdotal evidence for starters? Personal experience isn’t really enough evidence to make generalizations about billions of people. But you’ll just call me a woman anyways because you’re a retard.
Brandon Foster
i never made any claims on anecdotal evidence kek
Logan Brown
So much politics went into arranged and political marriages of the past that very little room was left to consider sexual and romantic compatibility. Of course some people were religious and disciplined enough to take their wedding vows seriously, but others were your average person who had needs they couldn't help. Usually such helpless sorts avoided marriage for the bachelor's life, but they couldn't stay single forever. They had alliances to secure against enemies, greedy in-laws to frustrate in the succession, and parents and liege-lords to appease in settling down and stabilizing the noble household.
Of course that didn't always mean it was a good idea to philander about after marriage. Sometimes the wife was a true battle axe and wouldn't take such insults lying down. If she was someone of lower social standing she might not get far, but insulting the daughter of your powerful neighbor the duke wasn't a very smart move no matter how hard your pee pee got.
At times rules were relaxed and it became somewhat acceptable for men to sleep with prostitutes or concubines in order to maintain the peace and stability of the community or noble household. You even got church-sanctioned or maintained brothels out of this situation. Other times, if mothers were known to have a lot of power over children and the home, children with mistresses and concubines were preferable as happened with the harems of Islamic nobles, who did not want to mess with the powerful families of noble wives coming in to claim something through an heir.
James Wood
That’s worse faggot you made claims with nothing at all
Jason Ortiz
Single women households produce, overwhelmingly to the 90%, most criminals.
Also neurological development in babies has a mundane trigger in the NO pathway. If the baby doesn't encounter sustained "metabolic shock" (starvation, drugs, environmental chemicals, injury, etc), it develops a more normie oriented brain. If society, or your milieu, is stable enough to incubate you without too much trauma, you're probably in a socially stable situation where manipulating people is more advantageous than figuring out reality.
If you experience metabolic shock, that NO is shunted and produces more "object-oriented" neurologies. If your society isn't stable enough, it behooves a person to figure out a better society or at least to migrate to it.