If German were so superior why didn't the manage to conquer the Poles?

Reminder that Wehrmacht had heavy as fuck loses in Poland, they didn't expect that. By the time Soviets invaded, Germans were already out of oil and supplies.

Polish soldiers were also superior in hand to hand combat compared to a German soyboy.

If you read German memoirs, you'll see that Sept Campaign is not what they expected.

Hitler planned his victory parade in Warsaw on September 6th, but the capital surrendered a month later, after 2 million soviets invaded and helped take it.
The germans barely took half the country, even with the help of millions of russians.

There probably wouldnt even be a WW2 if the russians didnt invade, the german niggers would've frozen in Poland during winter, and thats it.

Poltards actually believe this.

If russia wouldn't have invaded poland ww2 wouldn't have happened.
This is delusion.

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Not on that scale, no. Krauts would get fucked without their supplies, meanwhile allied armies would penetrate Ruhr region and eliminate kraut industry.

>if, if, if, if
Absolutely delusional pseudohistory.

Absolutely butthurt Shitlesian. Poland pushing our Krauts in 1939 and Allies raping them in the asshole in Ruhr is still ten thousand times more realistic than Wehraboo 'WHAT IF' threads.

Delusional g*rmaniggers.

Don't wanna play "ifs"? Okay. How about the fact that Poland regained it's 1138 borders, reversing 800 years of German colonization

Projection.

I'm not german, poltardowski.

Polish delusion.

He can't keep getting away with it!

based Smigly.

What's deluded about it? Just google it or something, it's normie level history

Reminder the Wehrmacht had a 4:1 kill / death ratio during the invasion of Poland

The Poles never defeated the Germans strategically, the Soviets, Brits, Americans and Partisans did.
Also Hitler, his minions and the party were absolutely useless when it came to war.

There were five things the Germans needed to win WW2 before it even got hot.
>oil
>production system&industrial organization for full mobilization
>Support rather than controll of military leadership in a flexible military structure
>All scientists available, efficient research and weapons programms
>Professional logistics
With said improvements:
Produce more planes, submarines and tanks, make only cost-efficient designs but also take more time for development, immediately start plans for production after taking power,wait until designs are finished.
Attack Poland historically, but be prepared for overstretchment.
Try to be so friendly to the Soviets that they give you ressources, but keep Eastern Poland and the Baltics for yourself.
Invade France as historically done, use your larger airforce and tank-force to your further advantage and kill the Brits at Dunkirk.
Instead of invading Norway over the sea, ignore Swedish support and invade them, then Norway.
Invade and occupy Iceland and Greenland.

After finishing Graf Zeppelin, attack the Brtitsh and mass-raid them with submarines and air-fleets.
Keep Italy out of the war.
During one year of bombardment and blockade of Britain, invade Turkey through Bulgaria, get to the oil, create a landing force and battle-fleet, then use it.
Victory by 1942.

I won't talk about Poles, I don't like them and discussing them would be odd and painful,anyways we are not on /pol/.

>mass murder prisoners, women and children
>kill ratio

>The Poles never defeated the Germans strategically, the Soviets, Brits, Americans and Partisans did.
So the Poles defeated Germans by superior intelligence and diplomacy. We already covered that.

>I won't talk about Poles, I don't like them and discussing them would be odd and painful
What's the matter Prussiaboo, sad that your little frankenstein of a nation is gone ?

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>The most common range brackets for casualties are: Poland: 63,000 to 66,300 KIA, 134,000 WIA.[8] The often cited figure of 420,000 Polish prisoners of war represents only those captured by the Germans, as Soviets captured about 250,000 Polish POWs themselves, making the total number of Polish POWs about 660,000–690,000. In terms of equipment the Polish Navy lost 1 destroyer (ORP Wicher), 1 minelayer (ORP Gryf) and several support craft. Equipment loses included 132 Polish tanks and armored cars 327 Polish planes (118 fighters)[11]
>Wojna Obronna Polski 1939, page 851

>tfw it took the full might of Germany and the USSR to bring down the Poles, and they still held up an active resistance to that rule

I got only one question:
What do you like about this thread?

the prussiaboo butthurt

So this is an anti-teutonic thread for Poles and polonophiles?

Yes, they have no facts to back up their delusions.

Which ones?

That they are more awesome then the prussians!!!

I took a fat shit this morning that radiatied more excellence than the whole of Prussia history.

I also took a fat shit this morning, clogging my toilet that some polish plumber had to fix. It reminded me of polish history.

>I also took a fat shit this morning, clogging my toilet that some polish plumber had to fix. It reminded me of polish history.

So Prussia was a shit Poles had to clean from this world?

No, prussians took shits that the poles had to clean

at least they tried

>tfw you realize that all the empires that oppressed Poles collapsed and Poles are still around

It took a week for over 3000 Germans to beat 200 Poles on the Westerplatte, the Germans had total air superiority, a battleship providing fire support and they still lost several hundred dead, Fucking embarrassing

Leave it to the Poles to turn a swift defeat with a clearly disadvantageous k/d ratio into some example for POLAND STRONK

They got back at them later in West Europe.

>Raids from the direction of Coudehard managed to penetrate the Polish defences and take captives. The final German effort came at around 11:00—SS remnants had infiltrated through the wooded hills to the rear of the 1st Armoured Regiment's dressing station. This "suicidal" assault was defeated at point-blank range by the 9th Infantry Battalion with the 1st Armoured Regiment's tanks using their anti-aircraft machine guns in support.[6][58] The machine guns' tracer ammunition set fire to the grass, killing wounded German men on the slope.[59

>Stefanowicz, himself wounded during the day's fighting,[52] struck a fatalistic note as he addressed his four remaining officers: "Gentlemen, all is lost. I do not think that the Canadians can come to our rescue. We have only about 110 able-bodied men left. Five shells per gun and 50 bullets per man. That's very little, but fight all the same. Surrender to the S.S. is futile; you know that. I thank you. You have fought well. Good luck, gentlemen. Tonight we shall die for Poland and for civilization! . . . each tank will fight independently, and eventually each man for himself."[56]

>According to military historian Gregor Dallas: "The Poles had closed the Falaise Pocket. The Poles had opened the gate to Paris."[62] Simonds stated that he had "never seen such wholesale havoc in his life" and Canadian engineers erected a sign on Point 262N's summit reading simply "A Polish Battlefield.[6]

>In 1965 on the battle's 20th anniversary, a monument to the Polish, Canadian, American and French units that took part in the battle was erected on Hill 262.[63] Marking the occasion, former President of the United States Dwight D. Eisenhower commented that "no other battlefield presented such a horrible sight of death, hell, and total destruction."[64]
>en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hill_262

When chances were equal, Polacks were shitting on German armies badly. Both on land and air.

Yeah Germany is so shit, Poland is so great, that's why they lost at Bautzen despite having a numerical and logistical advantage of more than two to one when Hitler was already dead and the Wehrmacht was nothing more than a bunch of retreating and surrendering old men anymore with no air support whatsoever

Fuck off to /int/ if you want to have a country dick measuring contest

WE WUZ WINNING SOME SKIRMISH N SHIET!

>equal
>on the Western front in 1944

>SOME SKIRMISH
Literally the battle that opened up France for the allies. lmao.

Anyway, ever heard of the Black Devils? They made Model shit his pants.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1st_Armoured_Division_(Poland)

>battle of Kock

oWo what's this?

*battles for ur bulge*

>the battle that opened up France for the allies

That's operation Cobra. Hill 262 was just one of the smaller battles connected with the (attempted) German outbreak from Falaise pocket.

>>tfw you realize that all the empires that oppressed Poles collapsed and Poles are still around
10,000 years from now when Solar System will be converted to a Dyson Sphere Swarm, Poles will cruise within it in coal fueled ships and cyber-Janusze will talk to their Seba offspring "kiedys to bylo synek"

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>the battle of Wizna has been coined, along with a few other battles, the “Polish Thermopylae”. Indeed the generally estimated ratio of forces was about 700 Polish soldiers against more than 42,000 German soldiers. The Polish soldiers are said to have gloriously defended their position for four consecutive days and all would have perished in the process.

>But according to historian Tomasz Wesołowski who specialises in twentieth century Polish military history, this popular romantic account is a myth. The battle would have taken place on 9 September, opposing fewer Polish soldiers, but with better equipment than is usually recounted, against 4,000 German troops, as the rest of the column waited behind.

>Wesołowski presents how the myth was created by the local director of the military museum twenty years after the actual events in a manner typical of the propaganda of the PRL regime. There is a historical irony in the fact that the myth of the battle of Wizna whose origins are to be found in national-communist propaganda has become once again a symbol of Polish resistance

Reminder when you're dealing with Polish wiki battle screen caps from WWII, most of the figures come from patriotic communist era elaborates, they're often as exaggerated and distorted as the writings of Soviet military historians
Most of this stuff hasn't been researched by Western historians, caution is advised.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Wizna#Casualties

You don't trust Guderian?

cherrypicking goes both ways

poland got partitioned like 3 times plus the nazis conquered poland

And whare the Romanov's ? Where are Habsburgs? Where is Prussia ? Where are Nazis? All dead.
Yet Poland endures.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russia
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Austria
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Germany

Can't see any Prussia here.

>equating some shitty castrated republics with dynastic monarchies

major is ukrainian though

Source? He only psznje je piwko boże, całe te.

The fact you are very obviously avoiding the fact that Poland regained it with soviet and international intervention.

You must be on welfare if you believe that you got poland back because poles re-conquered it. Thank the entente for your added borders.

youtube.com/watch?v=wwHLxQWqegE
1:55

chopak z bombasu

1;45 i meant

Would that explain his retarded "speech" ?

Prussia was just Brandenburg renamed
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brandenburg
So where's the PLC today?

>So where's the PLC today?
PLC was abolished by Poles before Partitions.

They partitioned you 4 times.

modern day poland is not the same as the poland that got killed in the partitions

a cockroach is a vermin yet it survives a nuclear blast

Wait, they lost territory to Denmark?

FORTY TO ONE FORTY TO ONE

really hohols my mafia
hohol mafia

OP is a dumb pan-slavist polacknigger who has never heard of the Generalgouvernment

Polackistanis got cucked incredibly hard during the occupation and were exposed for the shit-talking cowards they are. Even the Generalgovernments' flag replaced the polish one with a germanic one depicting a sword, further signifying the cucking of polackistanis. After ww2 they were cucked by the soviets even further lol.

>Oh no the inevitable victory parade got delayed by barely a month

... Still miles better than comissioning a painting of yourself riding through the Brandenburg Gate in early 1939 and getting your ass beaten in less than 4 weeks' time kek

>I judged the Poles by their enemies. And I found it was an almost unfailing- truth that their enemies were the enemies of magna- nimity and manhood. If a man loved slavery, if he loved usury, if he loved terrorism and all the trampled mire of materialistic politics, I have always found that he added to these affections the passion of a hatred of Poland. She could be judged in the light of that hatred; and the judgment has proved to be right.

t. metapediapro

>Oh no they inevitable parade was delayed by few years

That still makes you the worse one in this case, you fucking retard

*blocks your path*

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guy that painted those was top tier memer

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This thread was so childish.

Imagine having your ass on so much fire.

>the eternal Pepik face

Modern Silesians are the biggest fake Germans ever. There are actually pockets of ethnic Germans living in Romania or Hungary speaking their local dialects, but Silesians are just LARPing Polacks deliberately speaking broken Polish with a few random German words they learned watching RTL thrown in.

I was wondering if it was the same guy. Do you have more of these?

>citation needed

Also, it's questionable whether any figures given are only for that specific place or a wider sector of the front

why did the germans love the crab claw so much? they used the exact same tactic but bigger in barbarossa

Herbert Smagon

snibbedy snab

I'm not a prussian. But I consider cleaning toilets to be worse then shitting in them.

>Herbert Smagon

Kek, Smagoń is a Polish surname, quite common in area around Bielsko-Biala.

>Herbert Smagon (Lebensrune.png 2. Januar 1927 in Karwin in Ostschlesien) ist ein deutscher Künstler.
Germanised Slavs are the worst Pan-Germanists. Just look at Kossinna.

It dates back to prussian military doctrine established by von Moltke. "march seperately, fight together"