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I usually run a 12 week test e blast per year. It's usually the highlight of my year

Kinda wanna try something like tren this time. What's the smallest amount I can take for a tren experience but not overly dosed?

1 gram a day keeps the doctor away

You actually just do one cycle a year? And you lift year round?

I'm on the fence about starting and kind of got scared off by the "if you do it once, you won't be able to lift without it" meme.

Could you tell me a little bit more about your experience, if you don't mind?

the secret is to never come off

first cycle, third day, test prop 75 ed, I've been pinning my quads, I've been limping and have the worst pain in my legs ever. is this normal? is this what you guys refer to as pip? its awful

Preloading tudca before drinking is actually even worse for the liver. So it's likely the same preloading right before oral.

Basically it seems not good if you take tudca right before you do something liver stressful.

Take it during the liver stress. Or after youre done for recovery.

Yeah, I do one cycle of test e 500mg / week once a year, lift year round, sometimes take a break from lifting for a while in the winter where I only go once or twice per week

Gains are great, look extremely good for the 12 week cycle and then it slowly tapers down a bit while off cycle, but not insane. Traps decline most noticeably but not too much, it's just that that respond so well to the juice.

Coming off has its plus sides. After my pct, my grape like balls become goose eggs and I start shooting huge loads of jizz again.

Aromasin is the best ai available. I say this having only ever tried aromasin. It just works great for me. I have no gyno, and I'm still very fertile.

You won't have to stay on forever, but you will want to come back again, cycling is the greatest. I feel like a Greek hero like Achilles for 3 or 4 months a year.

are we allowed to talk about sarms here

damn i've actually been planning on doing something like this actually.

You use HCG for pct?

scared shitless of a blood clot while on nolva
got a cramp in calf, shat myself, and ran to pharmisist to buy aspirin, popped it the moment i payed
first time using nolva

will i be fine guys?

Being on cycle is fucking great, but it has its downsides. I constantly get worried about every little headache, heart paplitation, possible abcesses. But you feel like superman. You feel like the shit.
But it's nice to take a break.

2scary4me

Hello guys /n/ here, any recommendations on how to use gear for athletic purposes? How does the usage changes between, let's say top cyclists and a bodybuilders? Any guides or sites you recommend?

If I want to pin test EOD for TRT, does it matter which ester I use?

No I've never used hcg
Just nolvodex

low dose testosterone

equipoise

hgh

epo

winstrol

why do you want to pin eod?

damn so exactly as i want to do too. Do you do regular bloodwork? has your natty tested been affected good or bad from this?

>let's say top cyclists and a bodybuilders?

Cyclists would use much much lower doses, would use EPO, and would stay far as fuck away as possible from shit like clen or trenbolone

why is there two threads

outsideonline.com/1908791/i-couldnt-be-more-positive

Crap, that wasn't the article I was looking for.

>have finaplex tablets
>father is a vet and has cattle implant gun

I think about doing it every day

thinking about doing one cycle HGH or/and IGF1. Will 1 cycle do something?
Have no expirience.

First off, both the IGF1 and the HGH will be fake no matter where you get it. Unless you get it directly from the pharmacy with a prescription yourself, it will be fake.

Secondly you will have to use steroids with those peptides in order to truly realize the effects

Thirdly you are probably just a manlet and don't even lift so no, nothing will happen. Sucks to be short, buster.

Yeah, s23 should be taken with test tho

really thank you man.
Not even king of manlets at 183 cm.
Real King of Manlets 6'3

I lift almost everyday, im very disciplined on IF 20/4 since 1 Month, before i was 2 Months IF 18/6. I look pretty good... but i sit on a wheelchair! I thought i could help the medula Regeneration with HGH and as side effect i would look even better.

You're not 6'4 in a wheelchair buddy

What kind of gear does an average gym bro start looking into if he wants to get a once a year pump?

Say I work out year round, but want to get extra beefed up for beach season or something...what kind of gear should I start researching?

HOLY SHIT, US DOMESTIC RAWS

finally i can homebrew now since i dont want to get my ass caught importing fuckloads of raws

apparently only $35 per 10g of test e

the kind that makes you kill yourself

Haha brutal

Injected test in glutes and almost immediately started coughing.

First time I've ever hit a vein.

Don't they have oestrogen in them as well as bologna?

>got me!

That cough is the worst.
I thought I'd never get it after 4 months of pinning tren, then it hit my 3 pins in a row.

Very stable blood levels, less chance of needing an AI

How about you read the thread... nothing other than the most basic 500mg test e cycle would be recommended

Anyone experience with mod-grf 1-29 and/or ghrp-2?
I am looking to run that for some time but I'm a bit worried about potential side effects. Also I don't know if the cost would really be worth the effects.

I'm looking for increased healing, some fat loss and comfy sleeps.

You can get the cough with test? I thought this was only with tren?

How long have you been on the Tren now by the way?

I remember you starting Tren before I started a deca cycle, which ends next week.

It's very mild compared to Tren.

How much deca are you running and how are you liking it? Guy at the gym last night was saying I should run it next blast - says it'll make me blow up. Not really what I've ever heard about it, but he's huge

I took some a while ago
10mim after injecting I got so hungry that I devoured about 4k kcal in one sitting

Don't know how much else it did, got me some mk677 instead and don't even know if that does much

What stimulants do you brahs like for cutting/general energy? Currently stacking dmaa, yohimbine; caffeine and ephedrine. Goodbye, sleep...

Deca gains are very diet dependant brah. You need to increase carbs to blow up on it. Great for joints and strength though. I've ran it 3 times now and have gone up to 800mg with no deca dick in sight. Always run test higher than deca just in case.

Deca is okay. It cant compare to Tren (obviously).

I ran the first 5 weeks at 600mg but gyno issues flared up, dropped to 400mg. Combined with 750mg test and 400mg Mast.

Running for 20 weeks.

I like it, makes my body comfy and no sides on 400mg.

Hmmm thanks for the info lads, I think I'll stick to my tren plan for the next one. One more pin at blast strength then it's off to cruise!

I've been on 16 weeks now, gonna cruise for as long as I can but I don't think I'll manage time off = time on before blasting again desu. Probably going to get some bloods around 8 - 10 weeks to see how I'm doing and take it from there.

Thank you for reading my blogpost.

No problem.
If your bloods show up healthy and you feel fine you should be good to go.

For me its Time on = Half that time off

Oh really.. I read that it's supposed to have less hunger effect than ghrp6..
I tried mk677 before, I didn't like it personally. Gave me bad sleep and didn't feel very good on it. Also the bloat was ridiculous.

HGH from Pfizer must be real, amirite?
Pfizer is the one that is doing Viagra, German Pharma.
Is it woth it?

i am cutting to 8% bodyfat, when i reach it i plan to do a 12 week test-e cycle which will be my only cycle
is this a good idea?

These guys will tell you that real HGH and IGF1 dont exist and were never made in the history of anywhere and its all fake peptides.

Frontload your first injection 2.7x the amount, either that or extend it to 16 weeks (or both).

Don't frontload test, esp not the first time. Big hormone shift like that can cause sudden hair loss or acne. But yeah I would say go for 14 or 16 weeks instead that will give you just some sweet extra gains and it won't matter much in terms of recovery.

i think i will do that

>which will be my only cycle

Kek'd

Well if something is real, than from a big german pharma Industry (Pfizer).

Im not sure if im going to try it... but i really think about it.

Anyone here taken mk 677 for 6 months or more? If so, what were your results and dosages?

No clue. I've just put an end date in my calender.

I don't know how you can do that brah. 12 weeks of tren fucked with my mind like no other..

The opposite for me, the longer I stayed on the better I felt, the more gains I got.

I stopped because staying on couldnt be healthy.

Is 30mg a day dbol only cycle worth it? maybe with some AI

And he is beyond fucked up, so yeah

If I feel the sides get too much I'll stop it. So far I'm A-OK

Do you people have no shame?

I'm fine with all the guys on gear. I even considered it myself.

But I'm sitting here in my LA fitness trying to take a shit and I hear a guy in the stall next to me whispering "come on come on come on!" while he's jabbing his quad.

Do that shit at home, baka.

I'm sure you guys aren't like that but hey sharing is caring, enjoy the story, and safe pinning fellas.

Why do you care?

Thats why you use longer esters for beginner cycles.

2 times a week is more then enough. Use enanthate(prefered) or cypionate.

We pin at home, we're not all animals

what kind of mental sides did you get?

How can I earn $300k starting so I can afford more gear?

how do you know he was pinning unless you looked in his stall, you filthy pervert?

MODDDDDSSSSSS

>taking a shit at the gym

topkek

>So far I'm A-OK

the fuck you are

How was the hair loss and acne?

Thoughts on people who jump on after only lifting a year?

.Delet

hey thanks everyone who recommended that my idea of maintaining a responsible coke habit while blasting was a stupid idea i feel a lot better, it's actually amazing how much better my workouts are without even a baby bump/line pwo

i would get these crazy crushing headaches like my brain was about to explode as soon as i started heavy sets that I would attribute to the blast but it was totally the coke

y'all might have just saved my life

Glad you're still alive you mad bastard

Does HCG fuck with anyone else?

Supposed to take 500 IU 24 hours before each pin day (200 mg test e3.5d). Haven't had any HCG the past two pins and I think I might finally be getting the full effect from my TRT. Not as exhausted, e2 doesn't seem like it's all over the place, not as paranoid/anxious.

Anyone else?

You used cocaine as a PWO?

You fucking stupid fuck lmao

no kys

nice meme

I did this once the morning after a long, long night when I found another gram in my pocket on the way to the gym with my buddy. We were just going to lift then get back at it with some daydrinking, so I figured why not. I had a great workout, and only felt like I was on the brink of death five or six times.

Hi Fraud.

I'm on PCT now (just ran test p with tren and anavar) I've been running HGH since 1 month before my 4 month cycle and want to run it through the rest of the year.

I was taking 5 iu per day (which is enough for me because I get tingly fingers) of the generics and paying 3$ per iu.

I have an offer on pharmaceutical (from the actual pharmacy) for 5$ each iu.

Is it worth it?

How long do you plan on using it? HGH isn't something to fuck with long term.

I know it's used a bit in the military since grunts have trouble staying lean, definitely not sustainable for long though.

Day 4 of 100mg tren a Ed. How much should I be adding to my lifts a week?

>sunburned my bald head
Curse these weak genetics

That on top of trt is def going to give you high estro

>natty = ~325 ng/dL test, ~20 pg/mL estro
>250 mg/wk, no AI = ~1200 ng/dL test, ~65 pg/mL estro
>150 mg/wk, no AI = ~600 ng/dL test, ~40 pg/mL estro

Need to get less fat to bring the aromatization down. Feels kind of weird that the test went as low as it did (I was expecting somewhere in the 700-800 range). I feel much better than I did naturally though, so can I leave that estrogen as-is? I don't want to take AI if I don't have to.

so my dad just recently has to travel to the other headquarters of his office in this mediterranean country. I'm going to visit in about a week, will stay there for a month. I want to cop some var, it's pretty much with no prescription at pharmacies there.
Simple problem is that because of certain circumstances, I won't be able to lift there, can only do bodyweight exercises/cardio. I'm also a beginner lifter, and new to steroids.
I was considering one of two alternatives :
1. start taking it while there and do any form of exercise I can.
2. keep it until I can take it back with me to my home.

Now I could be patient and wait till I'm home and can go to the gym to use it, but I'm afraid of the possibility that I'll have no way to bring it back with me.
So two questions more : in an intra-europe 5hr flight, is it safe to have a couple boxes of var tightly packed in the luggage I'll be checking in? Can I make it extra safe by any means possible? switching pills into a magnesium pill bottle for exemple?
If not, is mailing it to my house a good option?
Are postal services very keen on checking the contents of packages? Don't use post much, so wouldn't know.

What would you do in my case?
thanks.

If you're a beginner, steroids aren't something I'd be worrying about. Get to the point where you are confident and knowledgeable with diet, training, recovery, etc. before hopping on.

For future reference, don't use orals without a test base. Read the wiki, as the OP says.

If you're dead-set on doing this, then save the var for when you can actually lift and get something out of it. No idea about actually getting it back, though. I've heard of people putting their orals in vitamin bottles (vitamin D or something) and having no hassle.

thanks for your advice. I agree with you, I should focus on mastering all these external factors before I can introduce this new variable.
I will read the wiki again, and sink in all the information.
I'm not really dead-set on starting var right now, actually. to reassure you, I was just concerned by the fact this is a one chance opportunity for me to be able to get my hands on any kind of steroids for a long time, because of the laxist situation in that country, as well as the fact I am moving next semester to a country that's real uptight about steroids.
Long story short, I might not actually need it right now, but this might be the only chance I have at trying it for a couple months.
Thanks again for the advice.

That test is pretty low, lower doses should be more 8-10x mg per week, might be underdosed

Estro and ai are pretty subjective, so if you feel fine I wouldnt worry. Still have some on hand, though

No problem man. Keep on chugging. You'd be surprised what you can do naturally once you know your stuff. I think a lot of people hop on too early.

By the way, you can probably get it domestically, depending on where you live. No need to smuggle it.

>might be underdosed

That was my thinking as well. This is a batch from right before an old SST source exit scammed in the beginning of the year. You guys probably know the one... Got a "representative" who fucked stuff up a month or two before leaving. Took me more than two weeks to get my pack. I wouldn't be surprised if the vials weren't all dosed the same, and I'm using a different vial than I was when I last got blood drawn.

I was planning to ride out the last vial (I'm doing TRT anyway, so I don't need high numbers to feel great in comparison), then I'll be switching to the stuff from a current source.

Me again, just a quick question. You said I should do a "test base" before hopping on, and I assume it means get a blood test to get a baseline on my hormonal levels, but I'm a girl. I suppose from what I've read in the wiki that since I have already little test, it shouldn't be too much of an issue (or the contrary, with virilization and such), however I can be put into menopausal symptoms after prolonged use, and it's advised not to do a PCT but just taper off until menses return.
Can you tell me if my assumption is correct, I will still get a blood test done, before and during.
It just kills me that at best my natty lean gains estimation is 5lbs of muscle (according to scooby's calculator). I just want to get strong quick. Also am very worried of things like roid guts or becoming a crossfit golem chick, so I would have started at a low dose, like 5mg and wouldn't have gone over 10mg at peak cycle I think.

Oh, you're a girl. Yeah, that's worth mentioning.

A "test base" is a dose of injectable testosterone used to counteract the shutdown of male hormone production when using steroids. Girls don't need that, so never mind.

Blood work is never a bad thing, but I'm not sure if it's needed for a girl running low doses of anavar. Hopefully someone else can chime in on that.

how much protons per lb of body weight you guys consume on gear?

If youre a girl you can skip the test
Var solo is fine

That explains it
If its the last vial might as well keep usin it, maybe up your dose like 20% to compensate?