/fat/ - "One Day" Edition

Supergrass
Supergrass

Who is /fat/ for?
For /fat/bros who want to better themselves through meaningful hard-work, strategy, and dedication

This is not QTDDTOT, ask questions about fat loss but use that thread for general questions

Calculate your Body Fat Percentage
http://fitness.bizcalcs.com/Calculator.asp?Calc=Body-Fat-Navy (Gonna need waist/neck measurements)
Calculate your TDEE (Total Daily Energy Expenditure)
http://www.sailrabbit.com/bmr/ (complex)
http://www.fitnessfrog.com/calculators/tdee-calculator.html (simple)
Plan your weight loss week by week
http://www.losertown.org/eats/cal.php
Track your calories and macros with MyFitnessPal, works best on smartphones
https://www.myfitnesspal.com

All urls found in this thread:
http://fitness.bizcalcs.com/Calculator.asp?Calc=Body-Fat-Navy
http://www.sailrabbit.com/bmr/
http://www.fitnessfrog.com/calculators/tdee-calculator.html
http://www.losertown.org/eats/cal.php
https://www.myfitnesspal.com
https://nypost.com/2017/07/20/fecal-bacteria-found-in-mcdonalds-burger-king-and-kfc-drinks/
http://www.businessinsider.com/feces-bacteria-fast-food-drinks-2017-7
https://www.healthstatus.com/calculate/body-fat-percentage-calculator
https://www.halotop.com/flavors/
http://www.linear-software.com/online.html
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0000AN3UB/ref=ya_st_dp_summary?ie=UTF8&psc=1
http://www.linear-software.com/online.html
http://www.bodyrecomposition.com/fat-loss/the-full-diet-break.html/
https://youtu.be/EHOPTVBFpgM
https://youtu.be/3vSqgo6HFUw
https://youtu.be/r4tvs7Z27cE
cum2soon
cum2soon

First for what sport is /fat/ pursuing?? Personally, I'm trying to learn tennis.

Evilember
Evilember

lying down on my side
mindlessly running hand up and down my body
something doesn't feel right
I don't have love handles when I'm lying down anymore
wtf the fuck

w8t4u
w8t4u

Confess.

idontknow
idontknow

@cum2soon
Not a sport, but I'm working on hitting the fitness requirements for Air Force JAG.

@w8t4u
I went to the buffet at Bass Pro tonight and ate three plates of food, including a desert plate.

Emberburn
Emberburn

@idontknow
What are those like?

MPmaster
MPmaster

@w8t4u
This last 4 days I've eaten a lot at nights: between 1000-2500 over my TDEE each day. I hope tomorrow I can stop this. If not I will regain too much fat. Fuck.

happy_sad
happy_sad

@w8t4u
I made cookies

massdebater
massdebater

@MPmaster
What the fuck are you doing? Come on man! You're better than this.

RumChicken
RumChicken

@w8t4u
On vacation

Eating every day
Been doing fasting for.month's.

I guess.on vacation diets don't matter.....

StonedTime
StonedTime

@w8t4u
bad day mentally
physically, minimal consequences

Lord_Tryzalot
Lord_Tryzalot

is my bf% dropping too sharply?
how much mass am I losing?

Boy_vs_Girl
Boy_vs_Girl

@Emberburn
The fitness requirements? You need to hit minimal thresholds on a 1 mile run, pushups in a minute, situps in a minute, and abdominal circumference, and exceed some or all of the minimums by enough to have a high enough composite score. The exact numbers depend on your age.

farquit
farquit

@Supergrass
How can i stop myself from ordering food and eating out :((

SniperGod
SniperGod

@w8t4u
I ate two cans of tuna and two of my nephews spaghetti noodles

cum2soon
cum2soon

@Boy_vs_Girl
What are you doing for training?

BunnyJinx
BunnyJinx

/fit/thread/42479792#p42480179
325 today, V7lbs from yesterday, equal to starting weight.

3.2 miles on treadmill for a total of 30.2mi

Fried_Sushi
Fried_Sushi

@cum2soon
I've taken up hiking every weekend. Not really a sport but it's pretty much part of my weekend routine now.

Crazy_Nice
Crazy_Nice

@happy_sad
Quit that.

JunkTop
JunkTop

@w8t4u
after a month of minimal ice cream (had a couple 200 cal McDonald's cones) I went and got a pitn of Ben and Jerry's which was about 1300 cals

Harmless_Venom
Harmless_Venom

@w8t4u
tfw ate until i wanted to puke again

cum2soon
cum2soon

@cum2soon
I play badminton and table tennis

I want to play tennis but no-one I know wants to play with me ;_;

Methshot
Methshot

@w8t4u
it's ridiculous; band camp is near on the horizon and i'll finally feel confident going shirtless in the near 110 degree midday southern sun and yet i can't fucking stop eating

just now i had a bowl of cereal and raspberries+blueberries and then toasted naan bread with banana and peanut butter; fine on its own but goddamn at nearly midnight?? holy fuck

and it's my mum's birthday, so i'll definitely be seeing the senpai tomorrow and we'll no doubt go out

like god i want to enjoy this but every semblance of progress is some kind of high, and any semblance of regression the opposite, resulting in a near maniacal panicked frenzy

anyone here managed to maintain a healthy relationship with food? i honestly can't even remember not caring what i ate, and sure, that's how i ended up like this, but 'making it' at this point is going to consist solely of not fucking having nightmares because i ate a cookie and some ice cream at a community cookout

CouchChiller
CouchChiller

tfw instead of cracking open a beer and playing games and watching videos I walked my ass to the gym and had a nice lift
Felt good chunky lads also still got around 300ish calories left

TechHater
TechHater

Is it normal for me to lose 12 pounds in a few days?

I was 285 a few days ago. I just weighed myself at 273 today.

Harmless_Venom
Harmless_Venom

@TechHater
If you ate a lot of salty foods or boatloads of carbs, you were probably retaining a lot of water.

cum2soon
cum2soon

@cum2soon
Honestly, just go to the courts. Most people would incorporate you somehow. Or, find a local club for beginners/sign up for a class.

hairygrape
hairygrape

tfw tortilla pizzas
tfw meets my macros

gonna make it I think

Skullbone
Skullbone

@cum2soon
Starting with Sunday:
Run 1.5 mi (phone captures my mile time), 1 minute of pushups, 1 minute of situps, 2x7 diamond pushups superset with regular pushups, 20 leg lifts superset with bicycles, 2 planks, 3x10 vertical pushups (knees on bed)
30 minute HIIT spinning class, 3x10 bench, 20 leg lifts superset with bicycles, 2 planks, 3x6 assisted pullups
Rest
Same as Monday
Run 1.5 mi, 2x7 diamond pushups superset with regular pushups, 20 leg lifts superset with bicycles, 2 planks, 3x10 vertical pushups (knees on bed)
Rest
Rest

PurpleCharger
PurpleCharger

@cum2soon
Not a sport, but I climbed a small mountain this weekend. My goal is to climb Mt. Fuji next year.

Fried_Sushi
Fried_Sushi

@CouchChiller
Nice going lad. You're well on your way to making it.

Spamalot
Spamalot

@PurpleCharger
Nice shit, man. How are you preparing?

My brother and I said we'd climb Kilimanjaro when hes around 20yo. We still have a few years so I'm hoping to become a Veeky Forums /fat/bro by then. no

Raving_Cute
Raving_Cute

I'm 8 fucking pounds from a "normal" BMI. I'm pretty sure this will be the first time ever that will be the case for me. Holy shit.

Bidwell
Bidwell

@Spamalot
A lot of walking. Incline on the treadmill. The mountain I climbed last weekend that really is quite small, I want to hit that at least once a month. My gym is closed on Monday so I figure I can take the first Monday of the month, or something.

I'm not really sure what else to do, if you have any suggestions I'd appreciate it.

[spoiler] I'm actually afraid of heights, I honestly don't know if I go through with it. A friend of mine is climbing next week to I asked her to take a lot of pictures so I can judge if I feel like I could handle the climb mentally [/spoiler]

likme
likme

@Evilember
wtf the fuck

Nojokur
Nojokur

@Evilember
What faggot does this? I was at the beach once and couldn't stop staring at this total fucking weirdo who kept rubbing himself like you described. Just over and over. So fucking weird - WHAT THE FUCK is driving you to do this? Just sit the fuck still and stop touching yourself.

Is it your ADD? Do you lack physical acceptance? I wasn't hugged as a child and I don't even do this subconscious self-coddling. In any other circumstance, surrounded by people, you would not get away with this.

AwesomeTucker
AwesomeTucker

@Bidwell
looks suspiciously asian

Crazy_Nice
Crazy_Nice

@AwesomeTucker
It's Japan. I didn't mention Fuji randomly, it's in Shizuoka prefecture where I'm living. I'm pretty sure there are at least two people living in Japan in /fat/, unless the guy in Tokyo left.

Evil_kitten
Evil_kitten

FAT FUCKS

Methshot
Methshot

@JunkTop
Why not just get halo top user? Shit has cured me of any temptation to have anything unhealthy. Ice cream is my ultimate weakness so I know how it feels. Check halotop out next time you get a craving for ice cream

Emberburn
Emberburn

@JunkTop
Also, 60 cal fudgicals are good for days you don't have many cals

RumChicken
RumChicken

@CouchChiller
the hardest part is those first couple days of switching your old bad habits for your new good ones. Once you get over the first couple weeks of this going to the gym will almost be second nature. Good job user you're going to make it

Ignoramus
Ignoramus

Just at 4,000 calories of pasta, bread, candy and coke. I feel so terrible I can hardly stand. Been cutting good for 3 months and completely lost it. Fuck my life

Supergrass
Supergrass

@Supergrass
Just wanna thank you or whomever makes these threads constantly. Always good info and support for us fatties trying to make it. Thanks OP

Fried_Sushi
Fried_Sushi

doing OMAD/IF
eating less is EZ but managing time is hard
feeling really depressed
sleeping cycle is COMPLETELY out of whack
tried to push it forward to resume regular diurnal cycled
end up waking up at 2am and not getting back to bed until 5am
feeling shit
"feel" fatter
consider quitting but before I allow myself, do one last weigh-in
avoided weighing myself the whole time my sleep as fucked
expecting to have put on weight
lost a kilo
less depressed
diet continues

takes2long
takes2long

Alright lads, after a week of no change in my weight, I'm proud to say we're on the right track again as of this morning

Inmate
Inmate

@Crazy_Nice
That place looks great, user. Give me a green card for Nippon

idontknow
idontknow

@Ignoramus
Fuck my life

Exactly. Now use the fact that you feel like shit to your advantage and fucking REMEMBER that feeling the next time you get an urge to binge. If you really did cut for 3 months straight then you can keep going and go even longer this time. Keep track of your goals and your progress made so far and don't let this one day fuck up your feelings towards losing weight.

Believe me, a 4,000 calorie binge is bad but I've seen much much worse in these threads alone.

Playboyize
Playboyize

Is murdering seven rats via traps considered cardio?

farquit
farquit

Hey /fat/

I'm currently doing 3 days of lifts with 2 recovery between and weekends off. Wondering what a good 30-45 minute cardio routine might be, just something optional for recovery days if I feel restless or have eaten a bit too much.

Bidwell
Bidwell

@farquit
Cycling would be the obvious choice

Deadlyinx
Deadlyinx

@Bidwell
I kinda like treadmill jogging just because the machine sets the pace and won't stop unless I push the button, but cycling does seem like a good choice too. Just gotta stay disciplined enough to keep the heart rate going.

LuckyDusty
LuckyDusty

@Supergrass
Anytime lad. I love these threads. /fat/ is ultimate comfy.

Stupidasole
Stupidasole

@Deadlyinx
If you had your own preference why would you ask?

The reason to cycle is because it is the cardio that is most like your lifts.

Sharpcharm
Sharpcharm

@w8t4u
Had a takeout curry, pappadoms, a hot chocolate and several snacks yesterday.

RumChicken
RumChicken

@w8t4u
I had movie popcorn yesterday. Small size, shared it with another. Didn't drink the soda. Yet, I have sinned.

Forgive me /fat/her.

Spamalot
Spamalot

@Ignoramus
If you did good for 3 months and ate like complete shit for one day then there is nothing to worry about, except for the physical discomfort it gives you. Just drink a lot of water and get back to cutting. If binging is a problem for you, you can try do a reasonably sized cheat meal once every 1 or 2 weeks for example. It helped me with the psychological aspect of cutting for sure. It is more satisfying to eat a treat after you did well once in a while.

ZeroReborn
ZeroReborn

@w8t4u
I DRANK TWO GALLONS OF MILK TODAY

Booteefool
Booteefool

@takes2long
It is good to not weigh yourself everyday. The weight can fluctuate for various reasons and it can be frustrating to measure it like that. Every two weeks would be preferably, or one week max. Congratulations on your progress!

Methnerd
Methnerd

@ZeroReborn
hmmm cow juice

PackManBrainlure
PackManBrainlure

@ZeroReborn
I hope this is a joke post.

@Booteefool
I used to agree. And I don't disagree. But I think weighing every day is fine if you can take it in context of fluctuations.

I'm checking every day to have a more complete picture. And now that I am I understand going up a bit or staying the same doesn't mean I fucked up, that's just natural fluctuation.

People think of weight as one number, but it's really a range. Once you get that, the actual number stops being important.

King_Martha
King_Martha

Suddenly got a lot hungrier, no idea why, I don't over eat, but I get really hungry at night (limit myself to maybe 2/3 pancakes with cheese and maybe other equivalents of that)

viagrandad
viagrandad

@Booteefool
I weigh myself like 2 times a week, it's good to see if you're on the right track or you need to adjust things before it's too late

TreeEater
TreeEater

@King_Martha
pancakes with cheese

Skullbone
Skullbone

@King_Martha
eats at night
eats pancakes at night
never gonna make it brah

WebTool
WebTool

@Skullbone
I've only done it maybe 3 times because that's the only thing that I had, I try to not eat at night but lately I've had the uncontrollable urge to eat ;-; I gave up dinner for maybe a month or so, lost some pounds then gained them back, I'm also diabetic so I shouldn't go that long without eating because my blood sugar levels can go up

StonedTime
StonedTime

@PackManBrainlure
I hope this is a joke post.
I wish it was too

One gallon is over my daily calorie goal :/

VisualMaster
VisualMaster

@WebTool
Why the fuck would you give up dinner

CodeBuns
CodeBuns

@VisualMaster
Idk, seemed like a good idea at the moment, I've been letting myself go for a while, after I get my hair cut I'm going to try and get my shit together

Stupidasole
Stupidasole

@CodeBuns
All you gotta do is eat less and eat more frequent

Raving_Cute
Raving_Cute

@StonedTime
Mate you are seriously fucked in the head, how many times are you going to post here about how gallons of milk you drink.
I barely get though a liter of milk in 2 weeks because of my cut and you are just screwing yourself.

Sort yourself out, honestly.

farquit
farquit

@ZeroReborn
how can people even drink so much milk in one day

FastChef
FastChef

@Spamalot
I suppose you're right. I've tried to avoid cheat meals for so long though and this is the first time I have eaten over my TDEE since I started cutting so I feel some shame and disappointment with myself. Also, it was completely unplanned so I feel like I lost control.

Oh well live and learn I guess. I'm still a lot better off than I was 3 months ago

New_Cliche
New_Cliche

@King_Martha
pancakes with cheese

NEVER GOING TO MAKE IT!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Supergrass
Supergrass

lose around 1kg per week for 6 weeks
weekly "weight-in"
gained 200 grams
What gives? I havent changed my eating habits nor i had cheat day

Crazy_Nice
Crazy_Nice

W-w-what's your guilty pleasure, /fat/? Mine's pic related, I could eat it with ANYTHING, not exaggerating

Ignoramus
Ignoramus

@Crazy_Nice
Full fat Greek yoghurt covered in honey.

King_Martha
King_Martha

@Crazy_Nice
tfw live in Korea
Japan is better but I'm stuck here

send help

Emberburn
Emberburn

@Nojokur
Tbh I do this when I'm unconsciously stiming bc I'm a giant autist

Emberfire
Emberfire

lose weight at a slow but steady pace
94 lbs in 2 years
lose track for 2 months
up 20lbs from 236 to 256

Ok, so no bullshit here, who LEGIT has beaten binge eating? my /fat bros who where +300lbs with seriously bad eating disorders where u at? even after 2 years, i still relapse from time to time, it's a fact of life and i've accepted it, i'll have to live with the constant feeling of wanting to just empty the fuck out of my refrigerator and shove anything edible down my throat. Fasting helps to control it a lot, that and constant cardio. But i've probably gained as much as i've lost in these 2 years, the only reason why i'm almost 100lbs lighter is because i never give up even though i know i'll eventually relapse again, i just focus on working hard after every binge.

Smoking and drinking were TEN times easier to beat, i'm not kidding, i still laugh when people say this isn't an actual addiction.

LuckyDusty
LuckyDusty

@Emberfire
protein shakes before every meal, that's what I do, it's the only thing that has stopped my binging

StrangeWizard
StrangeWizard

@w8t4u
I need to clean my room and keep it clean somehow

Inmate
Inmate

@Supergrass
Weight fluctuates. You won't always see progress but if you are counting calories accurately you have nothing to worry about.

@King_Martha
I was very strongly warned by a family friend who lived in Korea when he was in the military to not fucking to Korea. He told me "Do not go to Korea. There is no sugar. There is no color. There is no fun."

There's a summer festival in my city tonight. Goddamn I love Shizuoka.

lostmypassword
lostmypassword

How do you guys handle fasting. I've recently been trying IF and after so many hours I feel shaky and sickly weak. Is there something wrong with me?

Methnerd
Methnerd

@lostmypassword

yes, EAT YOUR BREAKFAST NIGGER

PackManBrainlure
PackManBrainlure

@w8t4u
Going to the beach in two weeks, I failed to get a handle on the situation in time, gonna have to starve myself until then and then very slowly start increasing my daily intake for a month or two until I can get to some normal levels. I will suffer for my sins.

Carnalpleasure
Carnalpleasure

@Inmate
There is no sugar

what does this even mean

Snarelure
Snarelure

@lostmypassword
Maybe. Either eat regularly or see a doctor and figure out if you have a problem.

Flameblow
Flameblow

@Inmate
Weight fluctuates
But that still hit my resolve. I thought about some decrease in losing weight after couple of months, not 6 weeks.

RumChicken
RumChicken

@lostmypassword
is this your first time fasting? getting shaky from no eating for 12-16 hours is normie tier, specially if you were used to eating breakfast/4 meals a day, you'll feel fine after a few days of doing it. You wont die, the body is not that stupid (unless you're below 18 bmi which i doubt)

JunkTop
JunkTop

@Flameblow
I'm 5'8" and started at a high of 200~ pounds. I dropped to 180 like it was nothing, must've been two months at a high estimate. 180 to 170 has taken much longer and I've done nothing different except adjust accordingly to my new TDEE. Don't sweat it man, just keep putting in the time and effort and you'll see results.

BunnyJinx
BunnyJinx

@RumChicken
How about 8 hours?

Stark_Naked
Stark_Naked

@JunkTop
Well my TDEE is around 3k and i'm eating 2k kcal so maybe that's temporary halt.

Booteefool
Booteefool

@w8t4u
I had pizza tonight which would have been fine but then I ended up going to the corner store for some chips. Ended up about 1k over TDEE. I usually only do this once a month so it shouldn't hold me back too much.

Boy_vs_Girl
Boy_vs_Girl

@Stark_Naked
Shit happens. I had a garbage weigh in of a whole 5 pounds more than the week prior once. Next week I had lost a pound.

To illustrate it went, 178 > 183 > 177. Was probably just water weight. I didn't stress and kept on going and what do you know, things turned out okay. I believe in you user.

viagrandad
viagrandad

@ZeroReborn
falling for gomad meme
and pushing it further

Skullbone
Skullbone

@lostmypassword

Then switch it up. If you're skipping breakfast and having lunch/dinner, get breakfast and lunch, skip dinner. Alternatively you can 'cheat' by getting coffee with a bit of milk or tea. The key here is to not eat.

takes2long
takes2long

@Skullbone
Alternatively you can 'cheat' by getting coffee with a bit of milk or tea
It's intermittent fasting, not Ramadan.

Bidwell
Bidwell

@Crazy_Nice
I like reading about all your guilty pleasures and cheat days. It encourages me to better and stronger than all you guys and stay within my daily limit. Cheating is cheating. Guilt is guilt.

likme
likme

@Supergrass

I also lose around 1kg a week. Just count calories and have a deficit. Nothing else we can do. I weighed myself every day this past week. It fluctuates so much.

tfw I need new pants
But I am not even at my goal weight. I could just go to a discounter and buy 10 bux jeans I guess

Carnalpleasure
Carnalpleasure

@likme
Wir schaffen das.

RavySnake
RavySnake

@Evilember
@Nojokur
@Emberburn
You don't understand this because you aren't autistic

BlogWobbles
BlogWobbles

@Carnalpleasure
We'll make it all.

StonedTime
StonedTime

@Emberfire

former +350 (now 175), I never relapsed, I always refeed, after 8 weeks of cutting (~1200) i ate at TDEE (+2300) for about 1 week and then started to eat a little more but still cutting(1600), you gotta find a balance.

Remember, "if it fits your macros then it's ok to eat" is a garbage meme no one should EVER follow, eat healthy and don't sperg on calories, you gotta be consistent, if you're cutting, well, good for you, if you're maintaining, awesome, but don't switch between cut and bulking in a matter of days, you have to transition in stages.

I binged a little 3 months ago (just ate an abnormal quantity of nuts), but because I was under my TDEE i actually didn't gain any weight, but, as expected I ate 2-300 calories more the next day, and then I was back to my eating habits.

hope it helps.

Illusionz
Illusionz

Can I have a 200 kcal protein shakes for breakfast?

SomethingNew
SomethingNew

@BlogWobbles
Adi wäre stolz auf uns.

viagrandad
viagrandad

@Illusionz
That's what I do, it's been helping alot

Snarelure
Snarelure

I really recommend doing jump rope if you guys can't be assed to do cardio for a long time. It's also pretty fun once you learn some basic tricks.

Evilember
Evilember

@w8t4u
In the 60th hour of my dry fast this morning, I masturbated. I felt extremely sleepy after doing it but I powered on and didn't sleep (although there was some nodding off). I realise now that pornography truly is something that must be fully rejected.

In the 72nd hour of my dry fast tonight, I intend to go to McDonalds and drink a vanilla milkshake. I'm a bit afraid though as I've recently read news articles stating that there's fecal bacteria in the ice machines in several popular fast food restaurants in the UK.
https://nypost.com/2017/07/20/fecal-bacteria-found-in-mcdonalds-burger-king-and-kfc-drinks/
http://www.businessinsider.com/feces-bacteria-fast-food-drinks-2017-7
I tried looking for discussion on this on reddit and what I found was people dismissing it on the grounds that "fecal bacteria is everywhere". Apparently, it's even on my toothbrush. Now, I'm not going to ask Veeky Forums for permission to eat fast food but what about drinks? I do drink mostly water now (especially after learning that juice is basically just sugar) but nonetheless, is it safe to drink milkshakes and smoothies from McDonalds?

PurpleCharger
PurpleCharger

@Evilember
Dry fast?
Like, no water? For what purpose?

And why break a fast with something as awful as a fast food milkshake? You can't get a real vanilla shake, if you're going to eat something bad for you?

5mileys
5mileys

@PurpleCharger
Probably he drinks water but cuts out unhealthy drinks like soda and juices

Poker_Star
Poker_Star

@PurpleCharger
Yes, a dry fast means no food and no water. I think I almost pushed my arm into a state of necrosis last night. I slept badly but because I've had no water as well as no food, my blood has become much thicker with an almost sludge-like consistency. I think the term is "ipanemia"? Well anyway, I slept funny and when I woke up in the night, I could not feel my right arm at all. I've done this before in the past and my arm was somewhat numb but it was never so severe that there was literally no feeling. So, I reposition myself so that my right arm is dangling off of the edge of the bed and I actually feel a surge of blood push through some kind of blockage to get to my finger tips and then I feel another surge leave my fingertips and come back up my arm. Even now, the flesh around the main bone of my forearm (the "radius"? The not-ulna I think) is suffering from a pins and needles feeling. I'm convinced I almost needed amputation.

The purpose of my dry fast? Weight loss. Apparently, just 24 hours of fasting is enough to push the body into a state of ketosis which means fat-burning. You don't really see the effects of fasting until the second/third day which is when you're much deeper into the fasting process. I thought I might lose some weight if I fasted but I'm beginning to think fasting doesn't really help at all (except crippling the intensity of food cravings) and that it might be best to stick to cardio and restricted calories.

What's a real vanilla shake?

Techpill
Techpill

@5mileys
No, drinking water during a fast is water fasting. If you're taking in any solids or liquids, you won't get the true benefits that are only attainable with dry fasting. This isn't something that can be cheated.

Emberfire
Emberfire

@w8t4u
Ate some pizza for dinner. Was within my calorie limit but messed up my macros

RumChicken
RumChicken

@cum2soon
Jogging?

I had some fantasy about being an amateur wrestler one day, but that'd be a bit more complicated of a goal to achieve.

PurpleCharger
PurpleCharger

@Poker_Star
going through this much pain
for weight loss
Why?
Fasting does work, you are just overdoing it extremely.

Nojokur
Nojokur

@Illusionz
If it only has 20g of protein or less, I don't see the point.

skyr drink
label says 40g p and 220 kcal

Crazy_Nice
Crazy_Nice

@PurpleCharger
I don't think I'm overdoing it. I find fasting is numbing rather than painful. On the second day, it was anyway. I admit, I'm actually feeling hungry now and I have a history of intermittent fasting for some months now (16 hours, no food or drink).

But yeah, I feel this is something within my capacity.

idontknow
idontknow

@w8t4u
Hail chicken, full of protein, blessed are you among the lean meats.

After leaving the gym yesterday I went to this bakery across the street and ate three pastries.

Fried_Sushi
Fried_Sushi

@Evilember
@5mileys

unhealthy sodas and juices
proceed to drink milkshake with shit in it

new sperg level

Garbage Can Lid
Garbage Can Lid

@Poker_Star
what's a real vanilla shake

A milkshake made with actual vanilla ice cream scooped by hand and mixed using a shake mixer. Fast food shakes are made from a mix, dude.

If you get one ,try black and white. It's vanilla ice cream and chocolate syrup. It's awesome.

Also dry fasting cannot be good for you, please don't die.

idontknow
idontknow

oh wow, <1lb from goal
it's happening
it's practically happened
I didn't plan for this

lostmypassword
lostmypassword

@w8t4u
I feel that I truly fucked up.

I had an unplanned cheat meal last night. The first in over a year and a half of dieting. I had a big plate of fried chicken, fries, bread with oil, and then I went into the kitchen and ate a few big scoops of nutella my roommate had.

Today I'm up 1.5 pounds. I had hoped to get to my goal weight before the second week in September, but I realize that I just destroyed those chances. I destroyed my chances of reaching my goal because of one fucking cheat meal.

PackManBrainlure
PackManBrainlure

@lostmypassword
just water fast for 7 days. Life will be a living hell, but at least you'll be back on track.

Firespawn
Firespawn

@lostmypassword
relax friendo. you'll probably shit out most of that weight. a single night can't ruin any diet.

TalkBomber
TalkBomber

@Fried_Sushi
I thought milkshakes might be safe since the fecal bacteria was found in the ice machines i.e. if you order any drink with ice cubes in it, it's going to have fecal bacteria in it. Milkshakes don't use ice cubes however they are still cold drinks. How do they make their milkshakes cold? I have no idea. If any ingredients touch ice cubes however then the milkshakes would also have to be avoided.

@Garbage Can Lid
I'll look into getting a shake mixer. Personally, when i'm not getting McDonalds milkshakes, I just use the Nestle mix powder and regular milk that we have in the house.

What do you mean by "actual" vanilla ice cream? If I buy a tub of vanilla ice cream from the freezer section in ASDA or LIDL or whatnot, am I buying real ice cream?

From what I read, dry fasting is actually very good for you. There are a lot of portions in the body where the water is "stagnant". These are ideal breeding grounds for the various bacterium your body has accumulated over the years from your diet in modern society. A water fast is the equivalent of blasting all the "rivers" with a high current however it doesn't get everything. A dry fast is the equivalent of "draining the swamp". With no water, you create a "survival of the fittest" type scenario for your body's cells and only the healthiest can survive it. All parasites and bacterium and useless, weak cells die off. Dry fasting cleans the body in the same way a forest fire "cleans" the forest. That's what I read anyway.

RumChicken
RumChicken

@lostmypassword
Or you could spend more time exercising. I walked 18 miles and did my SS routine today and burned an estimated 2k calories. That's probably not entirely accurate, but combine it with a 1k deficit and you'll be fine.

Or just, deadlines for fitness are arbitrary (usually) so you'll hit your goal a week later.

FastChef
FastChef

bmi says I'm 26% bf
calipers say i'm 14% bf

are the calipers inaccurate because i have loose skin now?

5mileys
5mileys

@FastChef
bmi isn't a tool for bf%
and bmi doesn't account for bf% at all
you mixing up numbers?

iluvmen
iluvmen

@5mileys
maybe i just don't know what bmi is

what value/chart should i be using? i will admit i'm brand new to using the calipers but i followed the directions using the scooby method, bodybuilding.com method, and accu-measure method exactly, and they all gave very similar results.

WebTool
WebTool

@Poker_Star
my blood has become much thicker with an almost sludge-like consistency

StonedTime
StonedTime

@iluvmen
this has been the only calculator to ever give me a number that wasn't ridiculously wrong, just need a tape measure
https://www.healthstatus.com/calculate/body-fat-percentage-calculator

not sure on calipers

askme
askme

@Nojokur
20g of protein in 25g of powder and that's about 100 kcal, when I add the milk it should add up to about 200

WebTool
WebTool

@WebTool
It's not as thick as I made it sound. But it is sludgier, yes. Like, whilst seated, if I lean with my elbow onto my thigh, after a while, my thigh starts to feel blood-deprived. When I get off my thigh, I can feel the blood returning and it's thicker.

I'll be fine. People who attempt suicide through abstaining from food and water typically need a week to die. I'm only doing this for 72 hours.

King_Martha
King_Martha

@WebTool
That's so obviously not healthy, so why not just drink some water?

happy_sad
happy_sad

@Poker_Star
@TalkBomber
Please get yourself to hospital before you kill yourself. I am being completely honest. Read up on nutrition because all that shit you typed up is wrong. You can't honestly believe that not feeding yourself and dehydrating yourself is healthy. Seriously, go to hospital and eat something before you fucking die. Also get therapy.

SomethingNew
SomethingNew

@Supergrass
fat as fatass
lazy and apathetic
last 6 months approximately i lost 55lbs(just hit 25kg down from 165kg at start)
feel better
look better
still fat as fat but i'm getting there
I'm too much of a retarded sperg to follow a diet plan, so i've just counted calories, and tried to be as active as a shutin NEET can without too much hassle. 10/10 will keep doing this until i am a lanklet, i'm trying my best here and i finally start to see a change. Feels GUD.

pic related is my goal body

w8t4u
w8t4u

@WebTool
I'll be fine. People who attempt suicide through abstaining from food and water typically need a week to die. I'm only doing this for 72 hours.

Drink some water you fucking retard.

iluvmen
iluvmen

@SomethingNew
'mirin feet gains

TreeEater
TreeEater

@WebTool
What in the ever-living fuck is this level of stupidity? Of all the dumb things I have encountered on this board this has to be the most retarded. Drink some water and eat something you colossal fuckwit.

TalkBomber
TalkBomber

@iluvmen
Thanks i bunnyhop daily and try to trick jump as much as possible, i rub them in coconut oil and semen every night to prevent course skin from all the rocket jumps. The boots are nothing special i'm thinking about getting a new skin.

TurtleCat
TurtleCat

@SomethingNew
nice square jaw
routine??

JunkTop
JunkTop

@WebTool
I've not read all your posts but are you implying that fasting is making your blood thick?

if you had hypercoagulation you'd either be in an incredible amount of pain or you'd have suffered a PE and either be in hospital on warfarin or dead by now

Garbage Can Lid
Garbage Can Lid

how do i know when to stop losing weight?

farquit
farquit

@Garbage Can Lid
You don't. Enjoy your anorexia.

5mileys
5mileys

@TurtleCat
Nothing special, when i'm all outta gum, i chew ass. It's a dynamic and rewarding experience.

w8t4u
w8t4u

@Garbage Can Lid
When you like what you see in the mirror

idontknow
idontknow

@w8t4u
oh god...

Gigastrength
Gigastrength

@w8t4u
still not seeing sonic in the mirror
am i doing something wrong

Deadlyinx
Deadlyinx

@idontknow
Actually it's a good idea to keep cutting even then. Speaking from experience. I got to 145lb a few years ago, I was happy with my body and I stopped dieting. Ended up gaining 40 lbs in the next years.

Methshot
Methshot

@King_Martha
Because that would break the dry fast.

@happy_sad
I believe it's healthy in doses, yes. It's a cleansing process. A fire of sorts. Ideally, I intend to do one five-day dry fast every month. There are physicians that look into ways to integrate fasting into your daily life. I'm convinced of its health benefits. It's just that I went straight from intermittent fasting, straight into dry fasting. I never once did water fasting, as is strongly recommended. Consequently, I believe I may have taken a risk here but nonetheless, I still believe in fasting as a healing process. This isn't a way of life, it's like spring cleaning for the body.

@w8t4u
Not until the 72 hours is complete.

@TreeEater
I have 3.5 hours left.

@JunkTop
When I did research into dry fasting, people said that it did indeed thicken their blood somewhat and I believe that I too am experiencing this. I don't know what hypercoagulation is but nonetheless, I'm not in any immense pain right now. As of this post, I'm just hungry and after masturbation, I noticed a considerable drop in energy level to the point of nodding off and nearly falling out of my chair.

What's a PE?

Besides, while people have died from dehydration and starvation, I don't think dry fasting has ever killed anyone.

Flameblow
Flameblow

@Garbage Can Lid
I also require this information

TalkBomber
TalkBomber

@Methshot
Pulmonary embolism.

Also, you're retarded.

RavySnake
RavySnake

@Methshot
You're a fucking retard.

DeathDog
DeathDog

@42493056
did research into fasting
don't know what a heart attack is
don't know what a blood clot is
"while people die from not eating or drinking, nobody has ever died from not eating or drinking"
you don't deserve the (You)
just hurry up and kill yourself

New_Cliche
New_Cliche

@DeathDog
I know what a heart attack is and I know what blood clots are. I've just never seen the "PE" abbreviation outside of Physical Education.

Dry fasting is controlled. Starving and dehydration isn't. I've set this for 72 hours so yes, it's controlled.

Spazyfool
Spazyfool

@New_Cliche
so it's been 3 days and you think you're dying
sounds fun

Need_TLC
Need_TLC

@New_Cliche
There are no words to describe just how stupid you are.

Raving_Cute
Raving_Cute

Question to the panel:
My friend(certified broscientist) insists that even though protein powder has a high calorie count it is a lot easier to burn through than other types of food.
I've been sort of reluctant to drink protein shakes because of the high kcal, but if i do it before rowing a bit will i absorb it any differently than other sources of energy?
He mentioned shit like 'lipid' and some other stuff i didn't understand, but i wanted to believe him so i could drink my delicious fartpowder cocktails and not feel bad.
So basically, is it broscience or not..?

pic unrelated, it's a dog.

MPmaster
MPmaster

@Raving_Cute
lipid = fat

SomethingNew
SomethingNew

@Raving_Cute
depends on your goals really. if you're aggressively cutting you should be getting your protein from food like chicken breast and egg whites. if you're bulking then you need protein powder to easily hit your required intake.

if you insist on cutting and drinking protein powder, and if you're not having issues with hunger, just drink the fucking things. it's probably not going to make a gigantic difference.

5mileys
5mileys

@MPmaster
That was what i got from Google, basically just temporary energy storage. The idea he was presenting was that protein powder would find it's way straight to the front of the "lets use this shit" category and the caloric count would matter less than if i ate an equal amount of oats/tendies/whatever.

idontknow
idontknow

@Raving_Cute
Look man, a protein shake is no more than 200 kcal so you can easily switch your snacks for a protein shake

PackManBrainlure
PackManBrainlure

@5mileys
The idea he was presenting was that protein powder would find it's way straight to the front of the "lets use this shit" category

calories are calories, ultimately.

WebTool
WebTool

@SomethingNew
I eat a bunch of chicken, but i cut quite a bit down(2700 maintainance, most days i'm around 1000 to 1300 kcal). It's tough, but i'm a tard and i can't really get a lot of exercise so i'm sticking with this method until my situation improves.
The reason why i was drinking it in the first place was because i wanted to make sure i had enough protein since several bouts of weightloss has made me shrink and my muscles are all but gone. Hoping it could alleviate it, and i feel like it gives me more energy for workouts.
@idontknow
I only snack on greens though, and i try to stay really low on kcal so even 200 from a protein shake is quite a bit if you subtract it from my diet over a week.
@PackManBrainlure
calories are calories, ultimately.
i figured as much, i just wanted to dispel the idea before i started getting a new bad habit/superstition.

Illusionz
Illusionz

@WebTool
even 200 from a protein shake is quite a bit if you subtract it from my diet over a week.
Yeah but it's protein. You can never go wrong with eating more protein. Unless you have kidney problems.

You don't wanna end up a skinnyfat loser with 0 muscles right?

Fried_Sushi
Fried_Sushi

@Methshot
Wtf is a halotop? It looks like ice cream, but is it? Is it fake ice cream? Does it taste like shit? I'm going strong for a month but I just
want a spoonful of ice cream or a snickers, but I know it might lead to badness

BlogWobbles
BlogWobbles

@Illusionz
Man i just get confused by all this shit, i get so much info and i just decided to cut calories and figure it out on the move.
All i've gathered about protein is that if you don't have enough your muscles will atrophy fast, and if you get too much in powder form you shit bricks and fart all day. I've already lost a lot of muscle, after dieting several times and relapsing, this is the first time i've been really successful and kept up the effort, so i imagine by the time i'm about done i'll have very little muscle left.
It really sucks, i can feel my knees and back aching, and i want to get more muscle to hopefully alleviate both. But i get the impression that it's very hard to build muscle during a weight loss, and i need to lose weight bad. It's sucks to be fat man.

GoogleCat
GoogleCat

@BlogWobbles
Just lift, drink your protein and stay below your TDEE and you'll lose the fat while keeping some of the muscle.

The alternative is just starving yourself, not getting enough protein and ending up a skinnyfat bitch (not recommended)

Crazy_Nice
Crazy_Nice

@Fried_Sushi
Its ingredients are all here
https://www.halotop.com/flavors/

If I had to guess, it's some kind of egg-based frozen whipped pudding/custard made with and skim milk, sweetened with stevia. Definitely not ice cream.

Evil_kitten
Evil_kitten

@GoogleCat
Just lift, drink your protein and stay below your TDEE and you'll lose the fat while keeping some of the muscle.
That was the plan, though i have been kind of starving myself. It works, but i make sure to get enough daily protein for my weight. It's a shit way to do it, but i'm a bit unstable so keeping it simple like this has been effective.
Being able to fit clothes i 'grew' out of years ago was a big fucking win, even if my diet is a bit fucked my life is getting better fast. It's absurd how many things you accept in order to stay a planetoid.

viagrandad
viagrandad

@Crazy_Nice
It taste just like ice cream to me. Some flavors are better than others but it's definitely worth getting and eating the whole pint then feeling guilty or having to eat small portions of a B&J pint. Plus it has a little bit of protein too.

Evilember
Evilember

tfw plateaued hard 30-40lbs away from my goal
I'm just gonna water fast desu

kizzmybutt
kizzmybutt

@lostmypassword

I've been doing IF and I'm now down to one meal a day.

To be honest, I started IF at a time when I didn't have work so I pretty much got by just being in the weak and slightly fuzzy stage by riding it out doing nothing.

I still lost weight though.

I got myself a vaporizer to have something as a "treat" during my non-eating hours and I drink mineral water.

Black coffee in the morning is the best thing. Caffeine will pick you up and suppress your appetite.

Power through it as best you can. You won't feel the hunger and weakness after about 4 days of going down a smaller window. Now that I'm down to one meal a day I have lots of energy. I feel like when I do get my calories in... my body actually uses the simple sugars for energy.

Emberfire
Emberfire

How do you /fat/ bros stay motivated at all?
I find it hard to do cardio and go to the gym to lift by myself wish i had a gym buddy to spot me and just be there for the external motivation.
Fitness trainers are too expensive I wish i could just motivate myself if it wasnt for the fact i dont see any worth in myself with or without the weight.

TalkBomber
TalkBomber

@Playboyize
It's a start

Spazyfool
Spazyfool

lead up to vacation
getting my shit together in every way possible despite it being summer
vacation happens
lose control completely
I give up, I'm too weak for this

Lunatick
Lunatick

@Emberfire
very very few rich and successful people are fatties, so if you become healthy, you are far more like the elite than a fatty ever could possibly be

Lord_Tryzalot
Lord_Tryzalot

@Supergrass
help.
im stuck
ive gone down form 275 to 230 and im stuck
i dont know what to do, i just do push ups everyday and i eat 1800~ kcal
i have no idea what to do, sometimes my weight even goes up.

takes2long
takes2long

From 250 to 200ish now, does it look like I have any muscle what so ever or nah?

SniperGod
SniperGod

getting ready to go out to cinema with family
Everyone's getting in the car
See myself in mirror before leaving the house
Suddenly lose all confidence and don't want to go
Go up to car and tell everyone I'm not going anymore because I don't feel like it
"What's wrong anon"
"Nothing it's fine I just don't want to go."

tfw /fat/ and severely /depressed/

FastChef
FastChef

@Lord_Tryzalot
time frame?

weight loss takes time
if you are truly eating 1800 calories you will lose weight, it takes time. be patient

CodeBuns
CodeBuns

@SniperGod
You know a cinema is dark and nobody is looking at you though? Also your family most likely doesn't care what you look like

MPmaster
MPmaster

@Emberfire
How do you /fat/ bros stay motivated at all?
I am a recovering fat. Let me tell you my secrets.
1. I focus on 10kg(22lbs) at a time, making each point on the scale personal. Nothing feels better than seeing you lost weight, and setting a 10kg mark gives me a more immediate goal than f.ex 70kg would.
2. Learn to make green shit edible, it keeps you full better than most other stuff. I make portions of 300ish kcal with a bit of dressing on just to make it more interesting. Other than that i subsist on coffee and rolled oats with flavored protein powder to make it a bit more yummy.
3. I shelled out for a rowing machine, $1300 approximately for a Concept 2 which is great quality but a bit expensive for poors. It helps me work out without putting too much strain on any one part, and it's just generally a great machine for fatties if you can find one that wont break under you gargantuan ass
4. Liquids: Soup drinks(basically herbal soup drinks), tea, coffee, or anything else that can trick a lot of water into your body and make you feel full. Get something that tastes good, and something that you can heat to help convince your unending hunger that it's being fed.
5. That's basically all i'm doing, it helps with the unhappy times, and nothing makes feel motivated like seeing your progress. Count calories, and aim for 1-2kg(4-8lbs) loss each week. At first it feels like drops of water in the ocean, but it just keeps getting better. If you experience a plateau just eat a bit more for a few days, try fasting, and accept that it's slowing down a bit. You're in it for the long haul, it keeps getting better.

Hope it helped, don't give up. It feels so good once you start to see someone you recognize in the mirror.

likme
likme

@MPmaster
not the other guy but that was motivating, thanks

Deadlyinx
Deadlyinx

@MPmaster
learn to make green shit edible
What the fuck is wrong with all you people that can't stomach vegetables? Or are you all using hyperbole when you suggest that veggies don't taste good/need to be made edible. Broccoli is super tasty with just a pinch of salt and boiling it - in fact, pretty much all veg is good simply with salt and boiling. Do parents not teach their children to eat veg? I'm losing it over here watching people hate on veggies.

Harmless_Venom
Harmless_Venom

@likme
success gives you confidence man, keep at it and it will come. it's not a skill, it's all endurance and it gets easier the longer you go.
@Deadlyinx
I think you underestimate just how much you crave shit when you're fat. And you subject yourself to so much garbage, bad habits, and pain and discomfort.
You just end up in a place where you feel like you need shit food to exist.
Still i always loved broccoli, i should have mentioned it before, it's gods own vegetable.
And it's not that veggies taste bad, again you just end up craving trash after eating it for so long. Once you get used to dieting, and you're hungry as fuck looking for a snack, you can find your way back to the veggies without feeling cheated. I eat salads a lot now, it fills me up, tastes great, and it doesn't make me feel like i need to chase it with a pizza and a coke.
After dieting for a while, one thing i absolutely love is having a bowl with carrots in it, just to snack whenever i pass the fridge and want to deter myself. But before i started dieting, i would have looked at that bowl like it killed my parents and shit on my bed.

TalkBomber
TalkBomber

@Harmless_Venom
See, I guess I just can't understand that mindset because I've never been there (not /fat/, just enjoy coming here to give advice and encourage those on their journey) because in my head there's nothing better than a mountain of vegetables. I ate over a kilogram of red cabbage the other day with some onion and ginger and it was so fucking good.

TalkBomber
TalkBomber

Only meal for today (12:30PM).

2 eggs, 1 cup of fried rice, 3 meat lovers pizza

Next meal 12:30pm tomorrow

BlogWobbles
BlogWobbles

@w8t4u
Bacon ultimate cheeseburger and large curly fries
wasn't even that good

eGremlin
eGremlin

@TalkBomber
3 pizza in one sitting
never gonna make it

Lunatick
Lunatick

starting to get that "what's the point" feeling

haveahappyday
haveahappyday

@Lunatick
so you don't die when you're 50 in an XXXXL coffing

askme
askme

@haveahappyday
I wish I was dead though

Playboyize
Playboyize

@askme
me too buddy, you just gotta hope it gets better because this life is all we've got.

Nojokur
Nojokur

@FastChef
i started around october-november of last year

Supergrass
Supergrass

@MPmaster
Got a link to some recipes you used?
Vegetables arent really an issue for me anymore buy liquid diets dont sound bad either plus cheap. Was using pic related for my diet plan that i found on the sticky while looking at how to lose weight.
Would the liquid diet however interfere with building muscle or does it even matter.
And thanks for the encouraging former fat bro.

Crazy_Nice
Crazy_Nice

@Lunatick
Same brother, but you've got to think how happy you'll be when you make it. You can do it

hairygrape
hairygrape

@Crazy_Nice
my chance for happiness has already passed and I blew it by starting to lose weight too late

Snarelure
Snarelure

@hairygrape
as long as you're still alive, it hasn't passed.

Emberfire
Emberfire

@hairygrape
It's never to late to lose weight. You can always become a bara daddy who looks like he's 40 when he's 80. That's my goal.

WebTool
WebTool

@hairygrape
trust in zyzz brah
gonna make it brah
this is a revolution brah
you got a little zyzz in u brah

RumChicken
RumChicken

I'm about to lose my mind, lads. Probably sitting at around 20% bf down from 30%?

I can't take it, my gut still pops out and hangs. I'm trying my hardest. Gonna be eating 1200 cals a day and stick to my training. Why are abs so hard to get brehs?

FastChef
FastChef

@RumChicken
Dont guys have to be at like 8-10% bodyfat for abs?

New_Cliche
New_Cliche

@RumChicken
because nutrition requires more work than going to the gym a couple times a week

Ignoramus
Ignoramus

@RumChicken
OMAD, fatass

whereismyname
whereismyname

@hairygrape
It's cliche to say, but it's true that it's never too late. No matter how old you are, you will always look better thinner. And it will improve your mental and physical health

Fried_Sushi
Fried_Sushi

@eGremlin
thats kinda the point. Im getting my cals for the day in one sitting

farquit
farquit

@FastChef
I think it is around the 8-12% range.

Methshot
Methshot

@Fried_Sushi
how many calories is that? 1 pizza is like 2000 calories. Are you seriously taking in 6000 calories in one sitting

TurtleCat
TurtleCat

@eGremlin
I just did the math, thats
1364 calories for 1 one day. A 200 cal deficit.

BinaryMan
BinaryMan

@Methshot
Bro, Pizza SLICES not boxes. Sheesh man.

I forgot im in /fat/ so maybe your assumption is not so wrong.

Supergrass
Supergrass

@Methshot
he's a big guy

happy_sad
happy_sad

@BinaryMan
thank god, I was worried for a second there.

Gigastrength
Gigastrength

@happy_sad
Thanks for the concern =). How very sweet of you

SniperWish
SniperWish

@Ignoramus
OMAD means nothing by itself. If you do OMAD but that meal is 3 pounds of fried chicken and half a gallon of mayo, you're still fucked.

PurpleCharger
PurpleCharger

@FastChef
@iluvmen
Calipers are a very accurate method of measuring BF if you know how to use them. But I don't know how much it will change the numbers because of loose skin.
And don't trust BMI for BF, it's almost useless.

Booteefool
Booteefool

@iluvmen
This page has videos on how to measure every body part, and different formulas:
http://www.linear-software.com/online.html

StonedTime
StonedTime

@TalkBomber
It's really like an addiction mindset, that's why it's so hard to break the habit of eating shit. And more often than not the laziness of fat people comes from their apathy and acceptance of the situation rather than just bad personality traits. People can get used to anything, if they get the idea that they're just fat pieces of shit, then they'll accept it and begin refusing you if you say otherwise.
@Supergrass
I didn't use a recipe, i just dumped some salad, beans, tomatos, etc into a bowl and put a bit of dressing on it. The only effort i put into it is by boiling stuff, simply because i don't want to deal with it and already enjoy it. My mom started getting me all kinds of weird shitty beans with low calories, and some kind of weird sauces she make and together it helps a lot to fill me up. I honestly know shit about cooking, and the veggies still turn out good enough to be a meal.
Not sure what a 'liquid diet' would do for you, but drinking a lot helps you feel full, and it helps keep you off soft drinks if you're just quitting that too. Don't ask me about building muscle, i'm only still landing after flying fat for 10 years. I just wanted you guys to know what got me this far, i will need to rebuild a lot of muscle myself soon.
Sorry i couldn't help you out with recipes, i've been too lazy with that, and relying on crazy vegan relatives to drop stuff in my lap.

StrangeWizard
StrangeWizard

@Methshot
Why not do a normal fast for weight loss? It's really retarded not to drink water, there are no benefits.

Gigastrength
Gigastrength

@SniperWish

I tried doing this. That is... I tried eating a really fuck-off huge meal for my OMAD. You simply can't eat enough in one meal to go over your TDEE allowance. At my most decadent I couldn't go past half my TDEE allowance. That's pretty much when I stopped counting. You'd have to do something pretty exceptional to hack OMAD like that and it wouldn't even be pleasurable. Like... drinking cooking oil mixed with sugar.

Sharpcharm
Sharpcharm

@FastChef
Around 10-12%, yeah. The most demotivating part is that I haven't even reached 15%. I feel like I should be there already. It just sucks, I lost weight everywhere, but only minimal amounts in my gut. It sticks out slightly less now.

I can't look in the mirror without seeing that shitty hanging gut. My ribs are visible, my arms have gotten a bit smaller from muscle loss, same with traps, but I have a fat gut I don't know what to do with.

Should I get calipers for a more accurate measurement? Where do I get them?

SniperGod
SniperGod

@Sharpcharm
Amazon probably

Ignoramus
Ignoramus

@Sharpcharm
pic?

FastChef
FastChef

@Gigastrength
I did OMAD for 2 weeks, it worked for me that time, but then I just got bored of being hungry most of the day. But, at the same time I counted calories, and ate very healthy: my meal at the end of the day was always, breast chicken + veggies + rice + 3 to 5 pieces of fruit. It amounted to, from what I remember, 900- 1100 calories. It works for some people, but I don't think it's for everyone, and the ones who do it should do the effort to eat mostly "clean" food: you probably won't get past your TDEE, and you'll be much more satiated.

Bidwell
Bidwell

Be me in April 2016
235lbs of schizer
Discover Veeky Forums
Absorb the sticky into my brain
Start doing SL and 3x cardio per week
Flash to August 2017
Down 45lbs
Still have a gut but smaller
Still have man tiddies but smaller
Fit into better clothes
Feel better about myself but stalled out
Strength gains plateau due to 1800 calories per day diet
Weight loss plateaus due to fatigue and stress on system

How do I get past this lads? I want to lose about 20 more lbs before I go on a bulk but not sure how. People have suggested keto to me but is that a meme? Help me :(
I've put in so much effort and I am getting nowhere now.

iluvmen
iluvmen

@Sharpcharm
I read that this calipers:
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0000AN3UB/ref=ya_st_dp_summary?ie=UTF8&psc=1
Are the best ones in terms of price/quality, at least that's what Lyle Mcdonald recommends, I ordered one yesterday.
And yes, you should try to use calipers when measuring BF, it's one of the most accurate methods if you learn to use them right.
IF you buy them, use this page:
http://www.linear-software.com/online.html

RavySnake
RavySnake

@Bidwell
recalculate calories.

whereismyname
whereismyname

@Sharpcharm
yohimbine hcl + caffeine + fasted cardio in the morning.

fasted cardio here having the meaning of 3.8-4.5 mph on an incline for like 30-60 minutes.

Stark_Naked
Stark_Naked

@Bidwell
Don't do keto, with less carbs you recovery will be worst.
You've been dieting for a long time, sometimes it's wise to do a Diet break (2 weeks of eating at maintenance), it's good for Psychological reasons, and Physiological too. Read this article to understand more about it:

http://www.bodyrecomposition.com/fat-loss/the-full-diet-break.html/

If you don't want to, then just keep dieting, IDK what's your TDEE, but if you are really not losing weight, you could lower your calorie intake a little more. Obviously, even for a beginner, there's a point where you won't be able to gain strength, specially in a cut, and you will have to only maintain muscle mass, while losing fat.

girlDog
girlDog

@w8t4u

I drank a can of coke for the first time in weeks.

Methnerd
Methnerd

@RavySnake

I'm eating 1800 calories per day. I weigh my foods to make sure it is precise, and follow exact portion sizes. I do cardio 3 times per week which burns an additional 500 calories or so per session. I really don't think I can reduce it any more than I already have.

@Stark_Naked

Thank you. I will give that a try. I have been thinking a break may be necessary. When I started at 235lbs I was 23% body fat but haven't been checked since I have lost the weight.

At this point lowering my calories any more than they are would drive me insane. I am alright with where I am at but its just seeming to not work. I'll avoid keto for now, but am still considering it on the back burner.

WebTool
WebTool

@Methnerd
I'm 280lb and eat 1500kcal, if you want faster progress you can always reduce your calories.

Raving_Cute
Raving_Cute

weighed 189 jun 29th

am 173.6 today

goal is 155 lbs can i make it by november?

viagrandad
viagrandad

@WebTool

At what point will you get diminishing returns though? Keep in mind I still do cardio and lift on top of only eating the 1800 per day.

takes2long
takes2long

First weigh in below 200lbs! 199.

It took a long time. I've been lazing out on my diet big time, sneaking in snacks all the time. Thing is that they're always small snacks so it just slows me down. Probably could've hit this milestone a few weeks or months ago if I was really pushing myself. Slow and steady I suppose.

TalkBomber
TalkBomber

@Methnerd
@viagrandad
nibba there is a chance you may be eating too few. But do you boo boo. The best advice someone has given you so far in this thread is to eat at maintenance for two weeks, that is if you have the discipline to do that.

Good luck fatty

RavySnake
RavySnake

@viagrandad
fair enough point, all i do is light cardio twice a week because my right wrist hurts if i lift or do push-ups etc.

massdebater
massdebater

on a day where you overeat, do you lean towards lifting to make the best of the extra calories, or cardio, to minimize weight gain?

I know which one I should do, but I know which one I want to do.

Gigastrength
Gigastrength

@massdebater
how about don't overeat in the first place?

LuckyDusty
LuckyDusty

@massdebater
Do whatever you want to do but don't justify your shitty habits with the fact that you went and did some work.

Stark_Naked
Stark_Naked

@massdebater
i overate last night and walked 10 miles to burn it off

King_Martha
King_Martha

@Gigastrength
@massdebater
While not over eating in the first place is best advice... Over eating will happen to all of us at one point. Especially if you have any semblance of a social life.

Best to not stress about it and stay the course. Dont use it as an excuse to abandon ship.

Stupidasole
Stupidasole

@Gigastrength
this @King_Martha

Stark_Naked
Stark_Naked

@King_Martha
I consider the social outing a cheat day. We usually go all-you-can-eat sushi so thats outta the window

idontknow
idontknow

@Raving_Cute
Yeah

Skullbone
Skullbone

@massdebater
I always lift more, whenever I overeat (usually on sundays) the next workout is beastly

Ignoramus
Ignoramus

DEAR STOMACH FAT WHY WON'T YOU DIE YOU CANCEROUS PIECE OF SHIT FUCKING FAT FUCK YOU REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE I WISH YOU NEVER EXISTED JUST GO AWAY EVERYTHING ELSE IS LOOKING GOOD BUT NOT YOU YOU LAZY PIECE OF FUCKING HELLISH BLUBBER SUCK MY DICK STOMACH IM GOING TO POUR ACID ON YOU AND MELT YOU OFF WITH A NUCLEAR BOMB FUUUUUUUCK YOU

Techpill
Techpill

@w8t4u
I ate ~550 kcal of merci chocolate because I wanted to try every flavour in this big ass chocolate box with 8 flavours. God help me with my fight against chocolate onegaishimasu.

JunkTop
JunkTop

buy a weeks worth of food
eat it in 2 days
a mistake I shall not repeat

I'm scared of how little I'm starting to care about my weight loss efforts
yeah, I'm practically done with it, but that's what I said last time before I put all the weight back on, plus interest

Harmless_Venom
Harmless_Venom

@w8t4u
DD'd a friend home from a party last night. Didn't get anything when I took them to McDonalds but I went home and ate like 400 calories of cinnamon toast crunch. I was doing 100% this week up until then :/

Poker_Star
Poker_Star

@Bidwell
Welcome to the one hundreds Boobs McTits. Weight loss is harder here. Deal with it.

Ignoramus
Ignoramus

@Poker_Star

Well... any suggestions?

girlDog
girlDog

@Ignoramus
Intermediate Fasting

Gigastrength
Gigastrength

@girlDog

Which method, or will any due? Lean gains seems easy.

King_Martha
King_Martha

@Ignoramus
Trial and error. Prob nothing I could advise that you've never heard of before. Find what works for you.

Emberburn
Emberburn

Walled 29.3km / 18mi yesterday. I've never done that before. My feet were aching by the end.

But it was good. I wish I was into running. It would be much faster.

Evilember
Evilember

@Methshot
Halo top is honestly really good. I would definitely recommend if you could actually afford it.

$5.50 a pint here before tax that's around 250-360 calories.

$2 for the coconut fudge pint that's 1280 calories ;-;

CouchChiller
CouchChiller

@Gigastrength
not that user but
16 hours work best for me, with some variety here there, e.g: One day without breakfast, next day without lunch, etc etc.

GoogleCat
GoogleCat

so I thought I'd just splerg and post my life story lost 2 stone (28 pounds) in 3 months at the start of the year, wanted to maintain for a while to see if I could do it (plus scared of losing too fast incase I get skin sag) did well and just started back up now im 30 pounds down altogether and going strong.

Weirdest part is I can see how these fit fucks actually start to love their image, I keep looking in the mirror and thinking damn my jawline is starting to show or damn my wrists dont look cylindrical.

Feels pretty good desu and im not even half way to where I want to be.

viagrandad
viagrandad

@Supergrass
Stopped smoking and it helped break that 230 barrier. Down to 209 right now. 50lbs down total.

Hoping to 199 before the next music festival at the end of October.

had to sell my POS car, wouldn't pass smog anymore so now I can't gym. Hoping to afford a new POS car by October.

30lbs left dudes. Just need some muscle.

Poker_Star
Poker_Star

@GoogleCat
@viagrandad
good progress lads
now enjoy that bit of chocolate :v)

StonedTime
StonedTime

@hairygrape
how old are you?

Emberburn
Emberburn

12 in the evening and I'm hungry as fuck

Boy_vs_Girl
Boy_vs_Girl

@Emberburn
Bouillon cube.

TechHater
TechHater

@hairygrape
You're in your late teens or early 20s, huh buddy?

You have no idea how long life really is.

BunnyJinx
BunnyJinx

@whereismyname
yay, you're going to live 2 more years of miserable life.

Snarelure
Snarelure

@BunnyJinx
I have depression and I'm talking about it on /fat/

I wish all you guys would get help. I know this functions as a support group for weak willed fatties, but there's a difference between weight loss support and actually getting your shit together support.

lostmypassword
lostmypassword

@Raving_Cute
Yeah, but you'll really have to push yourself. What's your height? I'm 5'11 and just hit 177.4lbs yesterday. I'm hoping to reach 150 by January.

Carnalpleasure
Carnalpleasure

@Raving_Cute
why do you have a time limit? In my experience time limits are actually for fatties, like people want to be skinny quick but you shouldnt rush it to be honest my guy.

Also what height?

Evil_kitten
Evil_kitten

Been slacking a bit lately, hovering around 80-82kg (down from 92kg). Starting again tomorrow. Goal weight is 70, hope to be there before new years.

We're all gonna make it.

cum2soon
cum2soon

@Evil_kitten
Height?

Methshot
Methshot

@TechHater
@StonedTime
I am 25 almost 26.

VisualMaster
VisualMaster

@cum2soon
180cm

Raving_Cute
Raving_Cute

@Methshot
Not surprising. Life is very long. Find a new dream.

Keep losing weight, I promise it will improve your quality of life. It may not make you happier, but it will make your life better.

Nojokur
Nojokur

@cum2soon
I know these guys from work who are rock climbers. The one even asked if I'd be interested in it (being nice). I'm like 350 lbs so of course there's no way I could do it in this shape. I'd love to get into something like rock climbing some day. It would also help me get over my fear of heights.

MPmaster
MPmaster

Bought this shirt at J Crew two weeks ago and thought it looks nice, but I noticed it looks a little baggy. Might have to return it to get the slim fit one.

We're all gonna make it.

Playboyize
Playboyize

@lostmypassword
I never had issues with IF. I can go whole 24 periods drinking just water no problem. In fact today at the 16 hr mark I had to force myself to eat a meal. Of course I'm also huge, and eating keto, so maybe that has something to do with it.

BinaryMan
BinaryMan

@w8t4u
i used to be fat
YOU CAN DO IT TOO

Firespawn
Firespawn

Never forget that Arnold Schwarzenegger used to be fat too.

StonedTime
StonedTime

@Poker_Star
WHAT THE FUCK MAN, DRINK WATER. YOU HAVE TO. JUST DO A WATER FAST. NO CALORIES IN IT

Sharpcharm
Sharpcharm

why are wojack blogposters the worst posters in /fat/

Bidwell
Bidwell

@Sharpcharm
Any blog poster is, Womack or no.

If you are blogging to explain why you binged, I feel like that's understandable. People can encourage you to get back on the horse.

But blogging about your sad feelings isn't the same thing. There are so many people here who need to stop feeling sad and start looking at their life, or get help for depression.

JunkTop
JunkTop

@StonedTime
let him die desu
Natural fucking selection right there

BunnyJinx
BunnyJinx

@Emberfire
Honestly if you live close the market and not too destroyed on time I would just not keep your fridge or kitchen stocked.
Get your food from the market but only enough to eat for 1-2 days, maybe get food that can't be consumed unless you prepare it so you can't run in there and throw it in your mouth.

Or more likely get a therapist.

Stark_Naked
Stark_Naked

walk 3-4 miles every day for the last week
calves are fucking killing me

Maybe I should take a day off

Spamalot
Spamalot

@BunnyJinx
Blood sugar problems, my entire family does this but me and not all of them are fat or unhealthy, some are just this way.
It's genetic, my dad and I are the only ones without it.
Just don't do IF or go to a doctor, IF might not be for you.

Evil_kitten
Evil_kitten

I'm eating pizza and drinking a 4loko

likme
likme

@Stark_Naked
dynamnic stretches before walking and static after

TurtleCat
TurtleCat

@Methshot
I intend to do one 5-day dry fast every month
I intend to die from dehydration every month
just drink water nigga, like damn you need it to live and it has 0 calories

takes2long
takes2long

@TalkBomber
Thought you were shitposting but you sound serious and maybe even underage so I'm going to be 100% serious right now, please listen.

Ketosis happens whether you have water or not, it's only affect by 2 things, sugar and fat.
Lack of sugar results in ketosis, and if you have really easily digestible fat (like coconut oil) you might be able to kickstart it.
Never not hydrate.

This next piece of advice is far more general, but please think about it, I will all cap it so you will actually read it.
ANALOGIES ARE FOR PEOPLE WHO CAN'T GRASP CONCEPTS BUT STILL NEED TO KNOW THE BASICS OF SAID CONCEPT, THEY NEVER TELL YOU THE TRUTH.
draining the swamp
fire
cleanse
All bullshit, I haven't heard any actual scientific data backing up dry cleanses it's always just nonsense and analogies.
Poets and philosophers might be able to pull heartstrings with analogies (which isn't a bad thing) and might help motivate or see things from different perspectives, but for scientific facts (like your goddamn body) don't rely on them.
You will shorten your life, die, or perhaps lose hair/other bad shit on a dry fast.
Just eat least dammit.

askme
askme

i need advico.

Im dieting right now. my recommended daily calorie intake is 2550, everyone says you should eat 500kcal below your recommended, but i eat way less than that (about 1000 calories a day) im only fat cuz i use to eat a lot of junk food and sugar, when it comes to actual food, i dont eat much.

am i ok on 1000 cal a day diet or should i force myself to eat 500 below my recommended?

RavySnake
RavySnake

@askme
am i ok on 1000 cal a day
go for it if you can keep it up

the reason why people are against it is because most fatties lack discipline and thus will relapse from that kind of "shock treatment" and binge and whatnot, but you seem to be ok with it so keep at it. starvation mode is a fucking meme

Spamalot
Spamalot

@Evil_kitten
Your buddy isn't wrong but it isn't something you should worry about, this also isn't /fat/'s expertise so not a great place to ask.
There's no fiber and very little digestion time (it's powder not food) so it processes a bit faster, carbs will be easily available for energy and theoretically protein would be up for grabs slightly faster.
If you are a believer in eating frames (like needing protein within three hours of lifting) then by all means do it, but it doesn't matter and that "quick" digestion will just be stored if not used up like usual.

Don't worry about too much, things are FAR more complicated than CICO but CICO itself works for 95% of people.
CICO is wrong in the same way Newtonian physics is wrong, it's broad and explains almost everything but you still occasionally have something that goes 98 mph instead of 100 and the reason was because netwon didn't know about it.
Those 2 mph won't change a thing for someone that doesn't have a disorder, you will lose/gain weight on CICO trust me.

Fun fact if you don't account for special relativity gold would be pure white.

Bidwell
Bidwell

@w8t4u

Went out with friends last night. Had ice cream, followed by a huge wet burrito plate. We woke up this morning and went to a diner where I ordered two plates of food.

RavySnake
RavySnake

I went to a street festival last night. I had eaten dinner beforehand, and debated getting some food anyway. I could justify it by exercising longer.

And then i had a breakthrough. I've fucking eaten these foods before. None of them are going to be once in a lifetime quality. Eating it will be pleasurable, but not significantly so.

It really felt good passing up all that food. If I can change my relationship with food and why I eat, I could be ok.

Snarelure
Snarelure

@w8t4u
I've had barely any food in my house, and yet i still haven't lost any weight.
I haven't been exercising.
I shoplifted some burritos from the store so I could eat.

King_Martha
King_Martha

I always thought I had an ugly face. I still do. But the fat was making it so much worse.

Hopefully I'll start losing from other places more now that a lot of it is gone.

askme
askme

@King_Martha
I always thought i had a strong jaw line. Then I realized it was just from the mirror and looking dead on at myself, and being overweight. tfw no jaw

lostmypassword
lostmypassword

@w8t4u
I binged horribly the other night, ate a pint of ice cream, bread, a bunch of peanut butter, Chex mix, sunflower seeds. Felt astoundingly awful afterwards & nauseous. Shocked to see I just gained .6 pounds the next morning though thank god

Also ate a bunch of cereal this morning and some cobbler my mom made. Went on a hike later but doubt it made up for the damage.

Please forgive me, father for I have sinned

hairygrape
hairygrape

@King_Martha
posted progress pics last week
somebody said I had a cute face that will benefit from the eventual face gains

I hope it was a femanon

CodeBuns
CodeBuns

Anons, what exercise should I do, so that when I lose weight, I don't look flabby? I'm mostly interested in arms and stomach.

MPmaster
MPmaster

@CodeBuns
Lift weights with your arms and stomach

Soft_member
Soft_member

@hairygrape
Post pic pls

Gigastrength
Gigastrength

@hairygrape
I hope it was a femanon

Nope, it was me.

I'm gonna take that chubby boipucci to poundtown.

WebTool
WebTool

@Soft_member
Sure, why not.

@Gigastrength
n-no thanks

King_Martha
King_Martha

@WebTool
just as i expected a wojackposter to look like

idontknow
idontknow

@King_Martha
Fat Wojaks are pretty much the only reason I come to these threads.

likme
likme

@WebTool
Close your mouth. Breathe through your nose. It's a better filter for air.
How much you lost so far son.

TreeEater
TreeEater

@likme
My mouth is closed and I do breathe out of my nose.

53 pounds.

Firespawn
Firespawn

@TreeEater
just unfortunate facial genetics then

Supergrass
Supergrass

@King_Martha
Eh, what the hell. First pic is last August, second is today after ~5 months of weight loss.

King_Martha
King_Martha

@WebTool
Hold your head up straight and smile when you take a picture.

Emberfire
Emberfire

@Supergrass
Vast improvement, but you'd benefit from a hair cut and maybe a beard. You're gonna make it user, keep goin

Firespawn
Firespawn

New Thread
/fit/thread/42499320#p42499320

Carnalpleasure
Carnalpleasure

@Supergrass

do yourself a favor and buy a new pair of frames for your glasses, thous 3$ CVS glasses are not doing you a favor

Methnerd
Methnerd

@viagrandad
Walk to gym?

Evilember
Evilember

@Supergrass
can't decide which pic you look more like a pedophile in.

VisualMaster
VisualMaster

@Supergrass
Nice, user. You look a heck of a lot better and younger.

You have rosacea too, huh? Do you feel like the redness is getting worse as you lose weight? I was under the impression it would improve, yet it seems like the more I lose, the worse my skin becomes.

haveahappyday
haveahappyday

I hate myself and want to progress but just 2 hours ago I had a 20 piece meal from mcshit. Im weak willed. What do you guys use as motivators? I have no girl in my life and honestly I could care the fuck less because Im 21 and I don't have a degree yet. Im not morbidly obese but im severely out of shape and I feel fucking slow and sluggish and i know I'd feel better if I got fit. And I shouldn't look like a dad at 21 I look like fuckin ricky from TPB.

PackManBrainlure
PackManBrainlure

Hey /fat/, any good beginner bodybuilding routines? I've been doing west side for skinny bastards but I'm not a fan, i feel like the exercises are too weird and im not feeling good about the core exercises involved. I mean i know people have mentioned SS and SL but is there one that's better than the other? To clarify, I've been enjoying lifting but I'm fairly new and WS4SB has really been annoying me as im stuck looking at correct form on my phone and learning new exercises every day. Just looking for a solid, easy-ish routine to follow

Garbage Can Lid
Garbage Can Lid

@VisualMaster
Thanks man. I haven't noticed a difference in rosacea, but honestly I kinda like it or at least I don't mind it. Is that weird?

@Evilember
I work with kids, so hopefully neither.

@haveahappyday
My health. I got diabeetus. Don't be like me.

@PackManBrainlure
This isn't QTDDTOT. The best plan depends on your goals, but if you're asking me do SS and read the book. With that as a base you can't go wrong.

Snarelure
Snarelure

@Garbage Can Lid
Thanks, and this is /fat/, which i imagine is primarily compromised of beginners (hence, being fat). So i figured it was appropriate to ask others who may be starting their routines what has best worked for them. Ill check out SS, though.

girlDog
girlDog

@Snarelure
Its fair to ask here, but considering this is primarily beginners is the same reason the advice here won't be as informed as the rest of the board, generally.

Snarelure
Snarelure

@Garbage Can Lid
Is that weird?
Normally, it would be, but yours isn't bad at all. It just looks kind of cute as if someone pinched your cheeks or you've been out in the cold. Mine stops so abruptly under my eyes that it looks strange and I still get acne at the same time as well as a burning sensation when I get a flare-up. I'm a bit jelly.

If you're still here, do you use anything in particular on your face? Even with the blushing of the cheeks, your skin looks healthy and smooth.

CouchChiller
CouchChiller

GIVE ME YOUR HYPEST CHINK JAMS, /fat/, I NEED EM

HERE ARE SOME OF MY FAVORITES:

HEATS (GETTER ROBO ARMAGEDDON):
https://youtu.be/EHOPTVBFpgM

FIRE WARS (MAZINKAISER):
https://youtu.be/3vSqgo6HFUw

KANJITE KNIGHT (SHIN MAZINGER Z):https://youtu.be/r4tvs7Z27cE

farquit
farquit

@Snarelure
Recently I've started drinking 3 liters of water daily. I think that's helped my skin a bit, maybe. I'd strongly recommend getting enough water to everyone on /fat/

Other than that, I use a generic moisturizer on my face. I don't even know the brand and I'm not sure if it's helping, but I figure it couldn't hurt.

@CouchChiller
You guys know this is the old thread, right? Let's move it on over.

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