Is 1/2/3/4 really the starting point or just a meme?
Is 1/2/3/4 really the starting point or just a meme?
is that a trap. actually id rather not know
what do you mean by starting point? I hit it after about 18 months. I guess t signifies that you are no longer a noob but a legit lifter. then when you hit 2/3/4/5 you're in with the big boys.
1/2/3/4 will put you above 90% of people who go to the gym, and generally indicates that you've been training well for a year or two or training on and off for much longer
2/3/4/5 will generally be enough to make you the strongest person in any commercial gym, except that one dude who comes in on thursdays and squats 6pl8 singles
1/2/3/4 is a bit unbalanced, but 2/3/4/5 is just retarded.
yea 2/3/4/5 is insane, 95% of lifters will never come near that
how many natties do you know that can bench 3 plates?
starting point similar to how people say that an 8x6 is the bare minimum. Is 1/2/3/4 the 8x6 of the lifting world?
I said unbalanced, not unachievable. A 225 pound overhead press is enormously more advanced than a 405 squat
Tfw almost 2 years in and only at 2/3 cuz i had shit diddly form and no shoulders
I've only seen one person ohp 225
Starting point how? I'd say at least half of guys who go to the gym will give up before they even reach 1/2/3/4 at all.
I don't know what 8X6 is. I didn't say that 1/2/3/4 is the minimum I said that it is when you can call yourself a legit lifter. If you train hard and eat enough you should really be achieving intermediate stats within 18 months-2 years.
It's a milestone really
8x6 is penis size. Not sure if its meming but people on this site have been echoing that your shaft must be 8 inches in length and 6 inches in circumference as a "starting point" to be able to penetrate "the cake" from behind. Again probably just memes because thats well above average
I agree on that, I just get triggered by "2/3/4/5". It's akin to setting fitness standards to being able to run a 7 minute mile and being able to do ten consecutive muscle ups
3pl8 bench is far easier than 2pl8 ohp
that's true but 3pl8 bench is already elite for a natty
It should be 2/3.5/5/6
Why cant it be
Im natty and i already hit my 4 pl8 squat im at 195 ohp, 275 bench, and 465 dead. My goals are for a 2/3/4/5 by the end of year.
What is 1 2 3 4? Help a noon to this board out
135 pound overhead press
225 pound bench press
315 pound squat
405 pound deadlift
No go away nigger, read the sticky, and lurk more before you post
1 plate = 20kg (45lb) on each side of bar + 20kg (45lb) for bar
so 1 plate is 2*20kg+20kg = 60kg (135lb)
1/2/3/4 is doing 1 pl8 overhead press, 2 pl8 bench, 3 pl8 squat and 4 pl8 deadlift
ive never gotten confirmation one way or the other, is 1/2/3/4 1rm or for reps
there is no one definition everyone agrees on
I think this is a good explanation, it's a good signal that you have dedicated actual time to weightlifting. From here I think other good indicators are the 1000 pound club and/or a 300+ wilks score. By no means the end, just good benchmarks.
As far as I'm concerned as long as you lift it at least once then you've reached it. But it is better to do it for reps of course.
Would it really matter user? Man ass feels just as good so long as you remember to say no homo.
How much mass would I need to put on to hit 1/2/3/4? Currently 145# at 6’0, just hung up the spikes after years as a competitive collegiate 5k guy. Been lifting 3 days a week the past month or two, gone from 135 to 225 for deadlift, 135 squat to 205, 95 to 135 on the bench, and 45 to 75 for OHP, all for 8 reps as the last of a 4x8 hypertrophy routine. I assume I’ll have to add mass to hit 1-2-3-4 but I don’t want to get too big in case I want to start trying to hit fast 5ks again.
Thats not a good way to look at it. There are lifters your weight doing those numbers. The question is more how long will you have to train and its different for everyone but 1/2/3/4 is usually a 6 month to a year for a dedicated novice
So 1/2/3/4 is realistic at my size? I don’t mind if it takes me longer at a lower body weight.
Thanks. Man. Guess I still got some way to go. But I'll worry about that when I finish losing all the weight.
Hard to put on muscle when in a constant caloric deficit. But I've seen some improvements though.
Absolutely there are women that can pull those numbers and dont weigh much. 1/2/3/4 is more of a training thing.
It does fucking matter.
Women benching 2 pl8 or pressing 1pl8
Those are female powerlifters on roids
What is 1/2/3/4? Asking for a friend.
"The press" 1 plate 60kg
Bench press 2 plates 100kg
Squats 3 plates 160kg
Deadlift 4 plates 200kg
counting the bar
I ran faster in college than most professional women runners do on EPO, I see no reason I couldn’t outlift a roided up woman too.
I hit 2/3/4/5, AMA
So is that a trap or what?
work on ur math
There are in 1/10,000 women that can hit those numbers. I didn't want to believe it but they exist.
No it isnt
how much do you weigh?
are you on roids?
3pl8 bench easier than OHP 2pl8
In what dumbass backwards world do you live in?
I started OHP above 1pl, reaching 2 was nowhere as hard as trying to obtain 3 pl8 bench.
Do u have gf
what's the equivalent of 1/2/3/4 for someone who's 135 lbs
eating and then 1/2/3/4
its still 1/2/3/4 you dumb faggot
i can barbell bench 250lbs and still stuck pushing 60lb dumbbells over my head
of your bodyweight
how's that even possible? I can just barely bench a plate but can ohp 50lb dumbbells
Its not insane at all. >2/>4/6/6 reporting faggots.
It's for reps when your friend makes 1rm before you do and 1rm when you make it before your friends do. It's theoretical 1rm when posting on Veeky Forums
That correlates on the dot with 1/2/3/4
2pl ohp is the most uncommon of those lifts for sure, 6 plate squat is also a lot
4 pl8 bench
cheaters don't count
2pl8 ohp is more uncommon than fucking 6pl8 squat
what the literal fuck are you talking about
135 lbs is the same at 6 ft as 5' 3"
yeah who's the retard now
are you retarded
I don't think you understand how colossal a weight 400lb/180kg is
i lift 400lb every night when i fuck ur mum against a back alley wall
1/2/3/4 is a bit unbalanced, but 2/3/4/5 is just retarded
1/2/3/4 is pretty balanced IMO, but a 2 plate OHP is pretty rare since most powerlifters don't train it
1/2/3/4 isn't a starting point. That was the meme.
1/2/3/4 is a milestone that's a big deal, since it usually takes lifters a few months or even a year to reach, depending how they go about it.
Most people who go to the gym don't get to 1/2/3/4, which is why it's impressive.
less than a year to reach
I'll agree that average gym goers don't reach 1/2/3/4 because they don't train squats and DLs. I train at the only gym in my town with platforms (besides the crossfit gym next door) and I've never seen anyone DL, but a couple people just use it occasionally cus the weights and bars get moved around.
You won't even look good at 1234 t b h
I'm at 2/3/5/5.5 and just finally starting to look like I lift
What are these numbers and slashs?
Takes around a year of consistent lifting to achieve
not a big deal.
I don't think you understand what a small fraction of the population has ever consistently trained weights for a year.
So we need to feel good that normies cant do something?
So, is it a dude?
1/2/3/4 is basically a black belt in lifting. It impresses the normies, yes you are pretty strong, and it has taken dedication to get there, however, it is basically the beginning of your serious lifting journey. A black belt means you have completely mastered the basics and that is what 1/2/3/4 mean Imo. What you do afterwards is entirely up to you. You could focus on aesthetics and jump on PPL or you could focus on strength and hop on something like the Texas Method to get to 1.5/3/4/5. Or a mix of both would be something like PHUL.
It depends, what do you think is a reasonable expectation to set for yourself?
1. Showing more dedication than 99% of the population in regards to physical activity
2. Matching the standards of autists on the internet who have a several year head start on you.
I'm probably underestimating. Not even 1% of the population can do 1/2/3/4. So yeah, it is a pretty big accomplishment.
No it isnt. Stop trying to act like youre unique
LOL. I bet youre weak as shit
Bullshit I do 6/7/8/9 come at me dyel.
Nuh uh i bench 9000 pounds prove that i cant.
Now try not to call people out on their lifts online. Its a fruitless venture.
not starting at 10/20/30/40
you fucking faggots might as well kill yourselves
Shes a hardcore heroin / crack weeb. Dreamy. She probably fug for $10.
7 minute mile
Nani the fuck, user. 7 minute mile isn't shit.
Working toward and reaching a year+ long goal is something to be proud of, autist. Its not particularly impressive as far as competitive powerlifting or olympic lifting goes but it definitely sets you apart from the general population. Most people consider lifting 200 lbs to be a monumental task, let alone 400.
145# at 6’0
SPOOKY SCARY SKELETONS
Where did these numbers come from?
My cock and balls weigh 400 lbs and I lift them everyday, so am I good to go?
Nah, desu it's not really an accomplishment to be a 200+ lb fatass attaining 1/2/3/4 compared to a random 165 lb guy doing it.
whats that....also im scared of fapping to whites and asians here cuz might be traps.....most convincing to be traps think is the light skin and lack of hair
Thats like saying that everyone should be proud for doing something any normal person can do just because they did it for one solar revolution. It isnt an accomplishment.
This is honestly the problem with the millennial mentality they want a pat on the back for something that anyone can do.
Not everyone can do it, the vast majority of people couldnt do any of those lifts for a single rep. Most people have the potential to do them but never will because they lack the knowledge or motivation to lift regularly for a year or more. Its not a difficult concept
My 5k PR is sub 15. Of course I’m a skelly. How many bulky guys do you think get XC scholarships?
As a powerlifter in the 181 weight class I couldn't 2/3/4/5. Ohp max was 205 and bench was 285. Squat and deadlift were 485 and 565 respectively. 2/3/4/5 is not proportional for most people's strength.
Everyone here has pulled ur mum and she's at least 4pl8
My current best bench is 185 x3 and squat is 245 x3
Is it realistic to think I can reach I can hit 225/315 x3 by February?
I am currently 152 lbs, 5'7 (yes I know manlet) and eating at a 300 - 400 cal surplus daily. Doing nSuns 5/3/1 which aims for weekly linear progression.
what were your lifts when she was sent to you?
Its just a year. Youre acting like doing something for a year is an acheivement
Sub 15 puts you in the 99.9 percentile of runners. Was that a high school PR?
HS PRs were 2:05, 4:29, 9:44, 16:31 (800m, 1600m, 3200m, 5k XC).
College PRs were 1:58, 4:03, 8:25, 14:51, 30:57 (800m, 1500m, 3km, 5km, 10km).
I wasn’t memeing when I said I can beat most professional women runners.
You can 1/2/3/4 1RM at your current height and weight if you wanted.
Who the fuck is this? I need to know.
I have a 9yo son. I was scared of the world. Now I'm scared of internet.
You're probably not dumbbell pressing correctly. A lot of people won't go through the entire ROM
These are objectively better to go by.
Weight ratio > singular weight.
Is 40LB bench above average for a 6'1 170lb lanklet?
you're a king, lad.
7 minute mile i unironically garbage if you're even moderately in shape. Like if you can't hit 7 mins and are under 250 I'd argue you are unathletic
wtf is up with your 800 and 1600 times? they're nearly at the same pace
Because watching that girl (actually very pretty), acting like a stupid cam-whore weebo really makes me think internet can fuck you since adolescence (ala Jessi Slaughter...).
In the end it's really as said: fags of Veeky Forums wouldn't let his kids check the site.
your mum weighs 400 so I'm used to it
oh believe me i'm reminded every night when i fuck your mom
This is not a trap right, just checking because i don't want add it to my jerk off collection if it is.
Re-read what I wrote. College is 1500m, not 1600m.
what the fuck this girl and I follow each other on instagram lel
holy mental issues
How long should this take for a fat cunt who's lost a lot of weight but is still overweight? I feel like the fact I'm at a deficit means progress is slow af.
Maybe you tell us, u r good at numbers
in the real world. JUst take durkz in this thread for example, his strict press is around 108 kg (almost 2.25pl8) or so and he benches over 4pl8 while being an olylad.
I personally press 1.5pl8 and bench 3, while my push press is slightly over 2pl8. I think you meant push press in your post (or olympic layback press), while others mean strict press when they refer to OHP
can 4x10 90kg on squat, but cant squat over 110 kg lol
brazillians regularly have the most feminine sluts
Would not cum inside, thank you. This is a female btw.
4plate is nothing for a man who works out to be bragging about
MAYBE if you weight like a buck-twenty
Bear in mind that 1/2/3/4 means different things for different people.
I.e. if you only weigh 100lbs than 1/2/3/4 is helps impressive. That's a deadlift over 4 times your body weight.
However if you weigh 200lbs 1/2/3/4 ain't shit.
I don't even need to post that sound imitation.
Wew lad. For a moment there I thought this was a new webm from sparrow.
It's fuck all. I do 1/2/3/4 for reps and I'm essentially skinnyfat. You leave dyel mode around 2/3/4/5 desu.
Low twitch unathletic faggot lol
I don't get it, why is reaching 1 pl8 OHP so hard? Seriously I struggle reaching 10 reps with 10 kg on each side. Meanwhile I've (almost) reached the other goals (1.75 pl8 bench, 3.5 pl8 squat, 3.5 deadlift). Anyone have some good advice? I've tried more reps and heavier weight but i just dont seem to progress. Im 1m90 83 kg if that helps, lifting for 2 years
honestly I think it's genetic and has to do with internal leverages. I hit 1pl ohp way, way sooner than 2pl bench.
I'm a little past 1/2/3/4 for reps and I'm probably p4p one of the strongest natties in either of the gyms I go to. But compared to elite powerlifters its barely getting your feet wet.
that'll do it haha cheers
Best answer you're gonna get.
Yeah that OHP is way harder than the other lifts. I'm at:
2 / 4 / 6 / 7
Feels bad man, I can push press 3 plates but strict press is fucking rough above 2pl8.
I hit a 7 minute mile when I was an obese 12 year old.
Ebin my friend.
Most definitely upvoted.
Finally some common fucking sense
bar doesnt bend
why do people feel the need to use fake weights? this shit is retarded
also how many of those are NOT former athletes or people with a physical job background, for whom 1234 in a year is a dream
Fake, fat, and gay
Actually it should be 2.125/3.5625/5.25/5.9375 for a 90kg guy in order to be considered an elite lifter
Badass bitch nigga. Age? Height? Weight? Race?
Depends on proportions, age, gender, height etc. But for an average guy between 15-45 it's when you're noticeably stronger then the average schlub on the street. If you're under 14%bf you also likely won't look like complete shit. Should be 1.1/2/3/3.4 though, going by an average build.
2/3/4/5 is much closer to balanced for someone with average proportions, deadlift is still a bit high though.
@Garbage Can Lid
quit e-tuffin, you ain't tuff
Accurate. I'm almost at 3 pl8 bench before 3 pl8 squat
shitty knees mustard race
I have hit 1 plate in OHP but less than 2 plate in bench (74kg), 2 plate in squat and 3plate in deadlift
someone tell me, i'm at 60kg ohp, 80kg bench, no idea about squat and deadlift, but last time i did leg press i did about 220kg x 10, how far am i off the squat/dl? And have i majorly fucked up slightly ignoring leg days?
M8, leg press means fuck all when it comes to translating to squat #s. Only way to know is to squat
so fucking wrong lmfao
Bulking and then 1/2/3/4
I hit 135 ohp for reps and 225 for reps in a reasonable amount of time, but 3plate squat is hard and 4 plate diddlys I'm still far from. That shits tough.
yfw you find out she has a nose ring
yfw this image was shooped
Is this bait? 2/3/4/5 is literally more balanced than 1/2/3/4
i would hit a 6pl8 dl and 5pl8 squat before a 2pl8 ohp easily
is that referring to your max or your normal rep?
taping comic book pages to the wall
Do Americans really do this?
If we did a poll on Veeky Forums I bet maybe half of this board could actually get 1/2/3/4. Despite this they all still probably go into threads like this and say "bro 1/2/3/4 is nothing".
Then you have the guys who act like 2/3/4/5 isn't really even that strong when maybe 10% of Veeky Forums can lift that heavy.
1/2/3/4 isn't a starting point at all, but it's the point where you can consider yourself decently strong.
This desu. I assume the number comes from your aveage 6ft dude being taller and heavier than someone 135lbs so you slightly reduce the numbers
I'm 17, about 5'5 weight around 135 at maybe 12%bf and this is kind of accurate. Been lifting for a year
I do push press: 130 for reps
Bench: 170 for reps
Squat: 235 for reps
Deadlift: 335 (sumo), 315 (conventional)
27, 183cm, 110kg bodyweight, white
My fuggin dick.
You realise different bars have different amounts of whip to them yeah?
Power bars have fuck all whip, I got a vid of me deadlifting 640 on one and it barely fucking bends at all.
Meanwhile olympic bars whip like crazy which is probably what you're used to.
Then there's deadlift bars used in some powerlifting feds which have even more bend and makes deadlifting easier.
I'd severely restrict any access to the internet make them take a sport or martial art classes.
Shiet, who is she user?
2 plate overhead press is way more advanced than those other lifts
1/2/3/4. I suggest gaining 50 pounds over the next year or so.
We have had polls, barely anyone lifted close to 2/3/4/5, most people weren't at 1/2/3/4 (way more than half were below it).
Even with estatting, most people here didn't lift that, and then say shit like this. It's ridiculous.
Does it matter what percentage of this board can hit the numbers though?
You don't have to be strong to realise they are objectively entry-level numbers. Not that you shouldn't be proud of hitting them, it's a fantastic milestone and it takes consistent work to get to.
But when there's teenagers and grills lifting more than that, maybe it's time to set the bar a bit higher for what you consider strong.
There's barely any teenagers or girls lifting that much, there's exceptions to any rule.
I absolutely guarantee theres some powerlifting teen out there benching 3pl8, that doesn't change that it's a pretty huge bench.
1/2/3/4 are heavy lifts, it being achievable for lots of people doesn't make it beyond entry level.
Also, yes it matters, people go around shitting on lifts that are pretty good in the real world saying they hit them within 6 months, when in reality most people here haven't even lifted six months, and don't move close to that weight, even with estatting.
Yeah, those lifts are pretty good numbers, and while I did hit it within 6 months of lifting, I also had been doing manual labor that required lots of heavy lifting for most of my life. If I had gone from couch to gym without ever having picked up a weight there's no way in hell I could've hit that in 6 months, and given how my lifts have stalled, I probably wouldn't have been able to hit it.
You Push Press. And even then your bench sucks
"lead a horse to water cant make him drink" you have to show your kid why they need the sport or martial art so they naturally develop interest.