Isn't it a fucking magical place, though? A land where bands of teens and children ride on horseback raiding, trading with, or protecting camel trains in exchange for opium, lapis lazuli (however you spell it), and 7.62x39mm cartridges are used as a standard of weights and measures. A place where the locals spend freezing winter nights in thousand year old mud-brick ruins as they graze their herds, where a man has the freedom to become a Khan in his own right by becoming the most powerful warlord. I agree in general, the place was a shithole to fight in and a lot of things that happen there "culturally" are fucking weird or nasty. I lost a piece of my soul fighting there when I was younger, but that's war. Fucking backwater shithole of a craggled, rugged, and damned patch of earth, but my fascination with the ways that the ancient customs of the silk road live on there in strange ways has always kept me thinking about the place. It is truly a land lost in time,
Aaron Long
This vet I was in the hospital told me when they landed in Kabul they were fighting right off the plane. He said it felt like a vidya game at the time. Sucks he got addicted to Heroin once he got back desu.
David Bailey
This arid, corrupt son of a bitch is draining manpower and money and basically...your military advisors ARE fucking stupid
Those memes are GOAT. If I knew what they were called I'd make a thread just for em.
Aiden Barnes
Your friend was making shit up.
Noah Walker
>it'd be the most worthless country in the world. WRONG, Haiti would still exist.
Christian Hughes
Underdeveloped areas of the world should have all of their guns confiscated and should be forced to wage war the old fashioned way.
Jackson Bell
Ya know you can always enlist and go there if ya want right?
Carter Campbell
Maybe, he was 22.
Robert King
Why? You repulsive homosexual.
Adam Hernandez
I'm assuming he was American or British so yeah he was making up shit, Kabul wasn't even taken by Americans but by the Northern Alliance, Americans just provided air support.
Jackson Garcia
>counties and nations have """"worth"""" >there is an objective scale to this """"worth"""" >this scale of """"worth"""" is only known to Veeky Forums Veeky Forumstorians
Daniel Turner
Imagine watching those conflicts, It would be like you achieved time travel.
Joseph Scott
Because it would be fucking awesome to watch pitched battles irl
Jonathan Gray
If anyone ever had the inclination to see what the world was like when Jesus was walking around, there's no better place to go.
Some tribe of proto-humans must have gotten lost in the mountains and interbred so much that they birthed a nation.
Justin Robinson
>Implying some airport in Kabul didn't get ambushed by some insurgents at some point
Blake Gray
>Thread >Board >Veeky Forums >Life
Charles Reyes
Greek Empire, British Empire, Russian Empire, American Empire etc vs a few mountain bois
ancient white people live there. Nuristani etc.
Charles Wright
>some people did something at some point in some place Vague bullshit statement, in other words you don't actually know if this really happened.
Hunter Gray
The Greeks succeeded and ruled Afghanistan for decades before getting usurped by invading Scythians.
Isaiah Rivera
Cool. Didn't say what color they we're, just said they were fucking their sisters constantly.
Afghanistan is the root of many civilizations and dynasties like the saffarids, samanids, ghorids and so on. Rumi was from afghanistan, ghazalis father was from afghanistan. Hell the islamic madhab hanafism created by abu hanifa, his father was from kabul.
>No worthy literature (they created their written language in the fucking 16th century). No native architecture. Literally no native scientists.
What? Bactrian and avestan were practically born in afghanistan. Modern day persian was even developed in central asia/northern afghanistan from middle persian.
What is your obsession?
Henry Scott
yaeh it's a butthurt iranian, his father probably pimps his sister/mother to some hazaras which could explain his obsession
Gavin Collins
>ffarids, samanids, ghorids and so on. Rumi was from afghanistan, ghazalis father was from afghanistan. Hell the islamic madhab hanafism created by abu hanifa, his father was from kabul. When people talk about Afghans they mean Pashtuns. The people you listed are mostly Persian, Tajik or Turkic.
Xavier Butler
irani khar, mushkelet chist? khusbakht asti ke ma tura IRL nameshnasam, agar meshnakhtamet miyamadam dest wa payeta meshikonandam wa madar wa khahareta kos mekadam
Nolan Bennett
Then make a thread about pashtuns, not afghanistan. 40-50% of afghanistan is fucking tajik, dumb mongrel iranian.
Joseph Nguyen
>When people talk about Afghans they mean Pashtuns and no, this isn't true at all
Ryan Roberts
there's definitely some level of personal hurt, he's made threads like this more than 20-30 times now within a month
Owen Moore
>40-50% of afghanistan is fucking tajik So? Afghanistan is a nation-state for and by definition ethnic Afghans.
Kayden Hall
m8 you're a moron, if you need someone to talk to if you're having problems, gimme your discord or something, we can talk out your butthurt, stop making these threads, not only do pasht*ns try and cover our history but now you pissranians also try to lump the rest of us in with them
Ayden James
its a (f)ersian he's probably getting cucked by some afghan
Jason Parker
honestly, I am going to stop defending iranians online when I have the chance, niggers like you make me detest iranians more and more
Carson Nguyen
>m8 you're a moron How am I a moron? If you're really Tajik and not larping then you should know that you're a Tajik-Afghan not a normal Afghan just like how Hazaras are Hazara-Afghan. >cuck cuck cuck cuck >honestly, I am going to stop defending iranians online when I have the chance Go ahead.
Caleb Roberts
oh oh mashallah behesh begoo baradar
Luis Richardson
yes no shit, I'm a tajik afghan
your threads are stupid, don't lump all of afghanistan in with pashtuns, hell even if you made a thread about them it'd still be dumb and pointless since even they had stuff
m8 you're just butthurt as fuck, some afghan problem fucked your sister (iranian women love us for some reason lmao), and so you've been posting historical revision tier crap for the past month and who knows how long else
Ethan Gutierrez
>when you can't come up with a reasonable and sensible answer so you resort to low grade one liners
Easton Morgan
What are you talking about? This hasn't even been the same place for 3000 years. If you're talking about Pashtuns, then yes, Pashtuns are absolute subhumans, worse than niggers; but everyone knows how inferior Pashtuns are.
Tajiks have famous scientists and poets, for instance; Ibn Sina, Biruni, Rumi, etc. Uzbeks too.
Lincoln Torres
I love how the poster count didn't increase after your post, reza
David Edwards
Kek, it went from 16 to 17 faggot. You are a south asian subhuman and cannot contradict what I said.
Carter Morgan
I'm a tajik from afghanistan so I agree pashtuns are niggers, but they're better than shitranians.
Lucas Jackson
Sorry Russian/Brit/American, you but still lost the war
Gabriel Green
You are not Tajik, you might even be some Pathan subhuman ashamed of what you are, rightfully so. Pukhtoons can eat goh and so can you mordegow doroghgoh.
Mason Baker
>Pathan pajeet detected
Andrew Thomas
kek, that's like the pot calling the kettle black, did I trigger you? Never forget that subhumans Pathans are genetically closer to pajeets, not Tajiks or Iranians.
Adam Walker
Pathans sure, pashtuns from afghanistan are close to tajiks from afghanistan, it's how genetics works and geography.
Anyway you're either a trigger manlet shitskin indian or an absolutely triggered iranian
Jose Rogers
Pathan = Pukhtoon = Pashtun. Anyway, any genetics map will show you Pashtuns are pajeets, and they look like it too. You are not a Tajik, but some shitskinned smelly Pathan, I can smell you a million miles away kunni.
Ryder Ramirez
Afghanistan is the reverse, oriental Switzerland.
>both are mountainous countries with insane, maze-like geography >both are "rootless" nations filled with ethnicities and cultures from all the surrounding regions >both have been invaded and attacked by powerful empires throughout their respective histories >both have a heavily armed populace that are willing to fight tooth and nail against any invasion
The difference is that one is a first world country, and the other is a destitute shithole ruled by 17th century bandit clans armed with rusty AKs.
Ryan Lee
Anybody with a brain can search those genetic studies and see that tajiks from afghainstan and pakistan cluster together.
Khodkoshi kon, irani kuni
Jonathan Watson
fucking this, you can acknowledge both the beauty and the savagery and the cross of both
Carson Reyes
actually I doubt you are iranian, given your butthurt at pashtuns it's probable that you're a hazara or some sort of subcontinental
those are pathans from pakistan/india usually, barely "pashtun"
I mean tajiks from afghanistan and pashtuns from afghanistan are the same, we descend from the same people, bactrians/arachosians mostly. I can't tell the difference between a panjshiri and a logari for instance...
it's a guarantee that you're a poojeet or shitranian, go back to pimping your mother
waqian agar irani asti, eqadar nejad parasti wa nefrati az dilat pass ko
agar hazara asti, khodkoshi kon, agar tajik asti afarinet etor post kada boro shayad yag pashtuna gir koni
Zachary Jenkins
Pathans = Pashtuns, btw every other ethnicity in the country is superior to Pashtuns: Tajiks, Uzbeks, and Hazara are superior to pa*Tun subhumans. No, Tajiks and pa*Tuns cluster differently, Tajiks are closer to Middle East and Caucasus, even Afghan pu*Tuns are closer to India, even Sindhi's are clsoer to Middle East than Afg Pashtuns lol.
At this point, it's very obvious you're a shitskinned Pashtun, but even you are ashamed of what you are lmao, and you wish to be Tajik. Remember, all P*than faggots have to learn our language, but no Tajik, Uzbek, or Hazara needs to know one word of your kunni language :)
I'm a tajik from panjshir, that's about as anti pashtun and as tajik as it gets. see and do what I wrote there
Cooper Scott
You're no Tajik, every Tajik knows how evil and subhuman p*Tans are. p*Tans are tribal pajeets like dalits and you must be one of them :)
boro jahannam p*Tanwali munafiq
Jayden Sullivan
I just don't like disinformation, whether it's from pasht*ns trying to erase our history or iranians claiming all of our history. Nothing triggers me more than niggerranians saying people like avicenna or rumi were iranians. They were not.
Your words make no sense, but again, if you make a thread like this, use this image. Don't involve the rest of afghanistan in your hate for pashtuns.
Dimgray X Indian Dimgray Plus Sindhi Dimgray Fill square Pashtun Dimgray O Kalash Dimgray Dot Brahui Dimgray Star Balochi Dimgray Diamond Tajik Black Fill square Iranian_Lor Black O Iranian_Mazandarani Black X Iranian_Persian Black Star Kurdish
Iranians still genetically cluster closely to their Sassanian forebears on nearly all autosomal DNA plots.
Why do retards think Greeks lost in Afghanistan? Is everyone here Anglo-boomer-tier uneducated?
Brayden Rodriguez
>Pathans = Pashtuns, btw every other ethnicity in the country is superior to Pashtuns: Tajiks, Uzbeks, and Hazara are superior to pa*Tun subhumans. I have to ponder your definition of superiority.
Dylan Edwards
>third world subhumans having a dick size contest
Gavin Lee
Aren't Pashtuns the most European? They are probably closely related to Indo-Europeans who moved through Afghanistan.
Dominic Davis
Who knows.
Jack Williams
>Ibn Sina and Rumi were Tajik also ty for acknowledging this :) your iranian nigger compatriots always say that they were "iranian" or "persian" and then pashtun niggers say that tajiks are not persian as well. You have to understand my frustrations here, on one side shitranians claim a lot of our history, and on the other side pashtuns try and say that we are not the inheritors of the likes of khwarezmi, rumi etc. Both sides basically say that we are a 'nobody' people.
hazaras are subhuman rapists/robbers/bandits usually, nobody likes them, in iran they're treated like worse than garbage tajiks are 'culturally' superior for reasons (we've had tons of poets, scientist and so on throughout history), pashtuns and tajiks are close to one another in afghanistan regardless, the average person in afghanistan cannot even tell a pashtun from a tajik, both also descend from the same iranic groups
anyway the person making these threads has some personal issues he needs to sort out, perhaps this is where he comes to vent, regardless it brings the quality of the board down, he's been making the same thread for at least a month now daily, nobody can be this butthurt about a group so much without some sort of personal stake in it
harappadna.org/2014/01/afghan-dataset/ eh not really, tajiks/pashtuns in terms of dna are similar, both have high levels of r1a1a so perhaps the indo-european part is correct
I'm out
Matthew Green
>our history Please show me any evidence that the concept of "Afghanistan" even existed in the era of Avicenna and the others you mentioned and I'll eat my hat. The only reason why these figures are marginally tied to Afghan history is because they spoke Persian, but they were undoubtedly closer to being Iranian than anything else as this is the only identity that really existed. Why do you think poets like Rudaki, born in modern day Tajikistan, and Abu-Shakur Balkhi from Balkh used the term "Iran" in their works and not anyhting else?
Jason Phillips
He cannot. It was just Khorasan full of Tajiks in Ibn Sina's time, go figure this was the peak of that region.
Kevin Bell
Depends on when he went. If he fought there pre-2003 he probably did fight immediately. Doesn't matter, at the FOBs and OPs you'll get engaged pretty much daily if you go out on patrol, or they just make contact with FOBS and OPs anyways. The ANF get fucked a lot these days I hear, and have had a history of fucking with coalition forces. and we never liked the bastards from the start. Sketchy as hell. By the way, I got addicted to heroin after discharge myself. It's a very big problem for vets
Nolan Mitchell
>but they were undoubtedly closer to being Iranian than anything else as this is the only identity that really existed Interesting. I was a bit confused throughout the thread but is that similar to Germanics identifying as Germanics before later identifying through their own respective ethnic groups?