So I was progressing linearly until week 4 of the program, when I went to visit the gf and had no access to the gym. I got enough protein, did not have a single sip of alcohol, slept like a log during the week. Upon returning (week 5) I could not for the life of my do my initial set of exercise 1- it felt like a ton of bricks. It felt like my wrists would snap. Whatever, I thought. I was undereating during the week off, and used it as a cut using albuterol. Lost weight. Neuronal adaptation blah blah. Still thought it was weird though since most people report that they're stronger after a week off. Now I ate above TDEE by a fair bit (+300) during week 5. Today I step into the gym and I can't lift what I used to in week 4! I'm getting enough food and sleep. Only think I can think of is I added finasteride. What's going on? Should I deload back to what I was at week 4 and go 2 weeks back? Feels a bit depressing. The punchline is that I'm on 200mg test E a week and 5mg LGD ED.
Aaron Brooks
Sounds mental. I can take a week or two off and come back stronger.
Angel Russell
>My 1rms are so small right now how wont I just rip my tendons out
Jace Richardson
Any /frauds/ do any Olympic weightlifting stuff? Clean&Jerk, Snatches? Wanna up my PRs primarily, any specific gear to look into? Not looking to compete atm btw
Lincoln Hall
catpiss used to, but i dont know if he's still around. i took a lengthy hiatus from /fraud/
Liam White
>Jerk me
Josiah Lee
Did masT post a timestamp pic yet or is he confirmed for a LARPer?
Aiden Ward
My super milf 44 year old neighbor is getting a pool dug out in her backyard and she’s already got a hot tub she goes into at night in this skimpy bikini.
My bathroom overlooks her backyard and I kinda want to leave the lights and curtains open one night when I’m showering or bringing a girl over.
Gimme bad ideas.
Juan Gray
>wants to improve oly >first thing that comes to mind is what gear to use lol
Luis Hernandez
I used to oly My goal this blast is 3pl8 c&j Right now all my 1rms are under 1pl8 Lets goooo
Really what you need to watch is your joints
Its true though I dunno how ill scale up my gains
Ethan Flores
Theoretically, what would happen if you were left alone in the woods but you had unlimited acess to gear?
First couple days are starvation mode until you find food. Even then you probably won't be eating like you normally do at 4kcal a day.
Mason Scott
...
Brandon Nelson
there are better meme lifts than oly
Blake Young
>roiding for this
Ryder Cox
Thank you
Sebastian Wilson
>Its true though Alcohol is de devil. Good thing I’m a straight edge loser except for the gear.
Xavier Ortiz
I always wonder why masT is posting small pictures every time. His only very big picture is the one with face
Elijah King
It’s shopped dudes. Like really obviously.
Jordan Butler
Im sober now, should help me get gains. To rip my tendons right off the bone
Anyone roided from exceptionally weak here? I dunno how to temper what I expect to be good gains
Daniel Sullivan
C&J, Better? I'm still continuously working on my form and very slowly adding on weight. But gear would speed up recovery I guess, and that's my current limiting factor. Noice, 3plate is achievable! Goop for it breh. My Snatch is stuck at 70kg and 115kg for C&J. Joint health is very important indeed, that's why I spend minimum 15 for prehab before and 20min after my training o stretches/mobility work. I enjoy doing them more so than just a brosplit or the usual sqwats/deads/bench.
Nicholas Cook
aren't the yellow devils peddling overdosed greytops? or has that ship already sailed
>Alcohol is de devil. gained 20lbs on a multi-week binge in december, actually impressed with how quickly my life went in the hole
could you share that routine you mentioned? not sure what's next after I'm done with this cut
Charles Lee
OH snap, rekt!
Angel Ross
>Anyone roided from exceptionally weak here?
Eli Baker
When are you manlets going to learn?
To keep it /fraud/ related: How do I dose my AI?
Luke Long
why is he always angling his right shoulder forward. Stand straight you fucking gorilla cunt
Hudson Howard
it's called flexing
Carson Rogers
Because he has to out angle the camera and won’t give a normal picture.
Charles Russell
this is LITERALLY avatarfagging
Justin Adams
flex standing straight! Haven't seen a single pic of him not angling his right shoulder, hence making him look unproportional
Ayden Wilson
pls help someone
Dominic Ortiz
Deload e l o a d
Parker Morgan
Do you need fats on cycle since fats don't build muscle and the hormones that they synthesize, well you're pinning them into your butt.
Leo Myers
happy james earl ray day /fraud/
Grayson Turner
Is there any scientific evidence for Mentzer's High Intensity Training Regimen with only one set per body part going to complete and utter positive, negative and static failure?
I'm tempted to give it a shot, but have the following qualms: A) How do we know that going to failure is the most effective way of building muscle B) Mentzer advocates training 3 times a week for 45 minutes a session to avoid overtraining. I think this is way too little volume, even if you go hard as balls and especially if you're taking PEDs C) Why are all the exercises isolation movements? Is the whole 'compound movements and free weights are better than machines' mantra a meme?
Anthony Campbell
So last night I sat down and read through the first 70 pages or so of the underground steroid handbook volume 2. Is winstrol really useless like he says? Why's it so popular if it only has positive muscle building effects on a small percentage of the population?
Nathaniel Brooks
You still need fats just less
Asher Harris
where is winstrol popular lol
Benjamin Lee
I keep reading it's popular with runners and swimmers because it doesn't cause water retention
Jaxson Brooks
It works. I am doing something similar it is called Pitt Force, better known here in Germany. It's one heavy set with 20 single pause reps till failure. Works really well and nothing has me sweating like this. If you want to know more about this, ask YouTube or me, I can give you a guideline.
Gavin Rivera
I base my routine around oly lifts but I can't really get into training it too much cause I get joint issues everywhere when I push myself too much. Also I am not on roids now. But honestly there isn't really anything that specific about roids and oly lifts.. just focus on technique and a good oly program and roid once you got a good technique down and enough natty gains.
Justin Powell
how much weight gain per week should i aim for while trying to gain lean mass on simple test cycle?
Sebastian Green
Why do I still need them?
Luke Stewart
I hate snatches lol
I think its the blacktops now Which routine? My old oly one?
No but then also lifted
Logan Adams
Very much interested, could you please describe your routine and training regimen?
What kind of strength gains can you expect on the programme? I get that it's volume-based but I am very apprehensive about programmes that provide only mass with little strength gain
Logan Watson
how weak are you right now? give numbers
Daniel Reed
body building doesnt really have anything to do with training, the bodybuilders do isolations because its much safer than heavy compound lifts. Bodybuilding is pretty much genetics diet and drugs and making sure you stimulate the muscle a few times per week
Ethan Evans
A lot of bodily functions still require lipids and cholesterol aside from hormone production
Zachary Rodriguez
Everything is sub 1pl8
Luis Cox
oh jesus fuck
what's your blast going to be? and routine you're gonna be attempting? muscle memory should help a lot at least...
Connor Campbell
Squat/bench/dead/ohp/clean+arms/XX To 1rm each lift 3 6x15 accessories ed with 2 drop sets except for cleans day where its 2 each bi+tri
Cooper Torres
i have posted many pictures from myself, in different angles, different distance even. but yet without showing pictures yourself you think you have the right to criticize me. lmao
interesting
Christopher Lopez
i dare all of you big talkers post a picture like this. Same distance same pose. No cheat angles, come one lets do it faggots
let's see how big you are. I bet there will be zero pics uploaded
Bentley Jenkins
>roiding for this
Christian Ward
starting my cycle next week; a i at a solid launching point for my foray into fraudness?
Adam Jackson
tasti legs
Evan Torres
yes
Sebastian Carter
go for it dude, you look better than everyone here
nice legs btw no homo
John Bell
bump
Alexander Rogers
Been lifting for a year, eating clean, counting calories, etc. No matter what program I do I just stall/start sliding down in weights. If I bulk I gain fat no muscle, if I cut I lose muscle no fat. Same with entire family. I get enough sleep. My body does not change. Roid or quit BBing?
Landon Collins
>still no timestamp
Jacob Morgan
he literally did
Grayson Morris
About three fiddy
Christopher Rivera
The one posted above is badly shopped
Ryan Wood
You have a good foundation. Def go for it
how is it shopped? where are the pixels? I just wrote that date with a black marker on a piece of paper
are you a stupid troll, or can you actually prove it's really shopped?
Gavin Stewart
masT took the picture with the paper turned around that was an user fixing the pic here is the original
Brody Edwards
MasT is swole as fuck but his food acne is unsettling. Like take an AI dude or at least HCG.
He looks like he blasts Tren year round.
Xavier Scott
Gimme a 4day split /fraud/
Coming off a cruise soon. Just want a simple 4day split. Might just do push/pull
Robert Mitchell
upper/lower homie
Brody Price
>tfw 20mg eod accutane seems to work >tfw my liver might survive while I don't have roidcne
Jeremiah Powell
that's nothing mang, i had it really worse when i went into PCT every time. that's why i am not pcting anymore
Joshua Young
will enough gear make it possible for me to get a qt goth gf
Levi Thomas
I like this one. You look massive, what size would you guess your head at?
Liam Torres
How does a roided training program compare to a natural training program?
Alexander Peterson
Twice a day, every day. Rest day sunday. 15-20 reps on sets.
Landon James
Hey /fraud/ i posted here a couple of days ago, dunno if any of u remembered. 19 y/o 182cm 79kg. Just got my second test back, and it seems to be low, 350ng/DL but i don't know shit about the ranges. I'm trying to decide if i should give self medicating a try, but i just want to confirm that my results are actually low. I have low t symptoms, but the doctors wont do shit, not even the endo, so i'm basically fucked. I have had done a test before showing 332ng/DL, so the numbers seems to be right.
Short version: Am i low test? Should i shoot test?
Alexander Howard
Normal range is anywhere from 200-900 so you’re on the lower end but not “low T” You could probably stand to inject if you wanted
Hudson Gray
Whatever allows you to progress in lifts and recover in time to progress again each session. The principles for growth don't change only your ability to recover from stimulus and how much you body compensates (the amount it grows through the recovery)
Lincoln Smith
You aren't by medical definition "low test" but you will never make gains on that level and that natural level will never get any better
Gavin Butler
Thanks guys, will try injecting 50-75mg e3,5d of test once i end my cut. I'd still need an AI right?
Kayden Sanders
>I'd still need an AI right? yes
the dosage however is subjective and varies greatly
Noah Phillips
I had similar levels and would suggest doing it on your own. fuck doctors, most don't know shit about this. they just know the fear mongering they were taught in med school. your levels are ((normal)) but you have the levels of an 85+ year old man.
Jason Jones
If you keep the BF low and eat all the suggested foods hopefully not. AI knocks your lipids around. It would still be foolish not to have one on hand
Grayson Jones
So l should stick with something like the cube method rather than having to do some brosplit to failure every day?
Austin Thompson
Will keep that in mind. Guess i'll run a "cycle" just to see if my symptoms go away, so i guess pct is needed too. Good to hear. Hos much do u do to keep urself on the better test level?
Adam Lewis
Are you progressing strength wise with your cube method? If yes can it be manipulated to increase training frequency therefore increase instances of stimulus to grow from? If yes I would say stick with the cube method. Muscle doesn't recognize set/reps/3lmaopl8 only stimulus to recover from
Landon Allen
i'm on 150/wk (75mg dosed every 3.5d), losing a bit of fat right now before I do my first blast
Matthew Perry
What level does that get you to? I'm hoping to reach 1000~ ng/dl.
Nathan Torres
>PCT is needed lol you have no natural levels to recover. If you want to spend money on pct I suggest you run HCG/HMG before you try trt to try and generate some natural level that you may possibly be happy with
Juan Ramirez
I'm just scared of becoming sterile, another thing is travelling. Have any of you guys gotten steroids with you when travelling internationally by plane?
Jaxon Phillips
Thats why i dont want to be permanently on from the beginning.
William Wood
So steroids just affect recovery time
But the link in the OP talks about a study where people who did nothing and injected 600mg gained twice as much muscle as natural lifters
Something doesn’t add up
Landon Roberts
That not all the affect sorry if it came across that way The most relevant part is they allow you to progress optimally. Don't worry about those cherry picked/doctored studies. No steroid studies have been performed with the desire to find out the optimum variables for growth.
>The terrorist who killed five people in theWestminster attackhad taken steroids before launching the frenzied rampage, a court has heard.
>The possible effect of steroid use onKhalid Masoodwill be considered alongside a “psychological autopsy” during the inquest into his death.
Enjoy being put on a watchlist, you sick roiding terrorists.
Hudson Bell
nevermind steroids how the fuck did he get a knife?!!! the uk really needs to crack down on who is able to purchase these
Ian Hughes
Going to do my first >oral only Tbol cycle. 50mg a day for 6 weeks Wil post the results when I am done with it.
>inb4 scared for needles in my ass
Gavin Thomas
lol retard
Landon Hill
Nah to mtren oral only cycle
Elijah Stewart
any advice if 300tren/200test is worth it?
never done tren before so not looking to do a higher amount just yet
Hunter Sullivan
Running 250/200 test/tren and I dont notice a difference from 400 tren other than no night sweats. I say start with 300 because you can always add more