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So I just finished watching DS9 today for the first time (took me awhile to get around to it). I really wish they would make a new series to explore more with the gamma quadrant.

For your question I'd agree with the other user with the romulans but even then I don't think they would bother with a war after the alliance.

I would really like to see a series where they explore the delta quadrant too, where the domoinion gives them some shit here and there, but Odo is holding them back, where the feds try and undo some of horrors the dominion did, maybe have odo guest star from time to time, have a Jem'Hadar ship or crew member... more screen time for Wyune/Jeffery Combs

>when all else fails, make an ad hominem

Literally the only thing I asked is that you make an actual argument. But that was just too much effort, now was it?

I rest my case. You're an idiot slinging bullshit with nothing to back it up.

Why do Star Wars fans always insist on this nonexistent rivalry? It's kind of like the Brits imagining they have a football rivalry with Germany, while Germany consider the Dutch to be their rivals.

When the Klingon Empire was forced to fight against the Cardassians, Breen and Dominion alone, how did they do over all?

Further more, did the Dominion ever strike at Klingon territory proper?

Weyoun permanently died, though. But Combs could play someone else. Never stopped him before.

Alpha Quadrant Weyoun died, the Gamma clone vats are fine

You mean the Dominion War? I remember them doing allright as Klingon ships where the only ones not hampered by the Breen Energy Drain Weapons

If you mean before DW started, the combined Dominion/Cardassian Union pretty much rolled over the Invasion Force Klingons sent to conquer Cardassian space.

I don't think either case Klingon territory was in major Invasion Line. During Domion War, the Founders probably came to same conclusion as the Borg did and that was that to have chance to rule the Alpha/Beta Quadrant, they needed to remove the biggest player first and that was the United Federation of Planets.

>You mean the Dominion War? I remember them doing allright as Klingon ships where the only ones not hampered by the Breen Energy Drain Weapons

But they would have been heavily out numbered though wouldn't they?

At the time, Gowron was making his power play to eliminate Martok as a political adversary. The Klingon fleet was thrown into massed full frontal assaults against heavily defended targets, rather than Martok's original plan of hit and run attacks on key installations, with a few to falling back slowly until the Romulan Navy and Starfleet could rejoin the front.. As a result the Klingon fleet suffered pretty heavy losses with minimal lasting damage inflicted on the enemy.

It's likely that Martok's plan would have yielded much greater success in the long run.

>But they would have been heavily out numbered though wouldn't they?

Well when Breen joined the Domiion side, they where allready in the ropes, the Combined Star Fleet/Romulan/Klingon Forces where allready attacking Core Cardassian colonies.

What the Breen joining the war with their weaponry was to cause a stalemate, as Klingons didn't have big enough fleet to push into heavily defended Cardassian Space by themselves.

I think the Founder leading the Dominion in Alpha Quadrant was hoping that the stalemate would last long enough for Cardassian Ship Yards build more ships to rebuild the force allready in Alpha and the Dominion in Gamma Quadrant could figure out how to neutralize the Founders and use the Worm Hole to bring shit ton of Dominion Warships through without them being zapped away.

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I wonder what clone!Kahless was doing during the war. Fighting, giving sermons, both?

Novel canon? He left Qo'onoS to see how long the Klingons would take to notice. Using the Doctor's mobile emitter to leave behind a hologram who spouted koans to Klingons who bothered him. I'd thought he had helped out when Martok and the Empire acted out Le Morte D'Aarthur, but I was wrong.

>He left Qo'onoS to see how long the Klingons would take to notice. Using the Doctor's mobile emitter to leave behind a hologram who spouted koans to Klingons who bothered him.
That's hilarious.

Even better? Kahless had been traveling since at least 2377, so they didn't notice for two years. And the only reason the Klingons found out at all was because a bunch of terrorists demanded the hologram be shut down.

Why is the Trek EU worse than the SWEU?

They're equally bad. Fans shouldn't be allowed to fanwank in a semi-official capacity.

That is something I'd expect from Kahless. He's not the sitting around in a throne room type. I imagine he went off to Risa and spent the whole time getting trashed and motorboating the locals.

You're gonna have to be more specific, user. The King Arthur books were actually pretty good, including an Empire that is trying to live up to their traditional ideals while being pragmatic, and Martok taking a Ferengi as his squire.

Anybody know some good key setups for STO? The default one sucks and using eight weapons on a keypad is annoying too.

Basically, but he took up painting too. Most of the journey he took was about finding out who he was outside of the role he was cloned for.

Any decent, in-universe explanations as to why some Romulans do have heavier brows while some are indistinguishable from Vulcans? Generally I work with it either being a result of genetic engineering or some form of caste/patrician signifier.

Could just be a racial thing. Like Asians vs Caucasians. Some Vulcans have gold skin color but others don't.

>individually firing 8 weapons
u wot?
But there are keybind guides on reddit; you can look them up yourself. There's also this: youtu.be/j9ocZfZAHJk?list=PLMuD-YI-u3TnphAERG7O1R4oeMivCnrTB

Thanks m8, have a free Weyoun

The Federation itself.

Dragging in arguments from old threads is bad form. That's part of the reason threads have a shelf-life.

>ywn be as good as Commodore Ron Towers
Why even join SF Intelligence?

Ok, a question for you STG:

What TNG/DS9/VOY era female character would you like to see rocking the TOS era miniskirt? I loved it when Dax did it in Trials and Tribble-ations, so obviously that whet my appetite. Or do you have an OC who rocks the miniskirt in a Trek rpg?

This is amusing.
canonfodder.ex-astris-scientia.org/index.php?Alien_Races:Vulcans_&_Romulans:_Ridged_Brow_vs._Flat_Forehead

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Maybe there is only one cloning facility per Vorta.

Not that this is an automatic end to the Weyoun line.

A previous Weyoun did go renegade so it's proven that Weyouns have the potential to go off the tracks.

Somewhere out there is an old and grizzled Weyoun that went Full Space Corsair. He scans the horizon for threats to his gods and their holy realm and neutralizes or redirects or negotiates them out of the way before the Founders have to worry about them. He hasn't been back to the Dominion in about 20 years. It wasn't until after the Dominion Federation war was over that he heard that there was a Federation or that they were at war.

His ship is crewed by a motley assortment of mercenaries and galactic drop outs and a few of the original Jem'Hadar he set out with. By this point they are probably the oldest Jem'Hadar ever.

The other Vorta administrators are kind of aware of his existence by stories coming out from the border provinces but haven't managed to contact him properly since he dropped off of the official radar. Truth be told they haven't tried that hard. That particular Weyoun was considered half insane but half brilliant and keeping a long way from anything important and forget about him was seen as the best option all around.

Ezri Dax.

Also I can imagine the miniskirt and t-shirt combo being popular with Andorians. They come from an ice ball of a planet. They are pretty sure that the Vulcans keep fucking with the thermostat on Federation ships.

Probably insist on the skimpiest possible uniform that is still regulation.

Is there, by the end of DS9, still a miniskirt on the official uniform variations?

I ask for research reasons obviously.

Sadly no. That was phased out when they switched to the First Contact style uniforms. Which desperately needed division piping on the legs to break up the black. And a belt.

Obvious answer, but Seven of Nine would look pretty good in that. And Kes, come to think of it.

And I'd love to see Kira in it, just to piss her off. nothing's cuter than a tomboy angry at having to wear feminine clothing.

Are there any naturally born Vorta any more or is the entire species clones? Do clones receive the memories of their predecessors?

>Kes in TOS miniskirt uniform
>Sounds hot as fuck
>Wonder what she looks like now
>Google Jennifer Lien
OH SWEET FUCKING JESUS WHAT THE FUCK!?

>Do clones receive the memories of their predecessors?

Doesn't seem so from what I remember of DS9.

>Are there any naturally born Vorta any more or is the entire species clones?

Weyoun mentioned that they were extensively genetically altered by the founders so it's possible that they are no longer capable of having children conventionally. It would be a way of ensuring that any Vorta rebellion falls after a single generation. It was never mentioned one way or the other from what I remember.

Jesus Christ she looks like a female version of Gary Busey

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>Playing ST armada 3
>Early game, have one flagship and escorts
>Taking over my little corner of space
>Everyone is on their own solar system
>Spawned into cardassia system as feds
>Suddenly these three assholes spawn into my star system one after another

I have a feeling that this game hates me, for the record, that's crystalline entity, rogue borg cube and the whale probe, all in my neighborhood, wrecking my shit.
Luckily they just hanged around Bajor and that pirate base, so i was able to take over rest of the system and build up a decent sized fleet, then at one point the game decided to spawn some Undine bio ships into my star system just for the shits and giggles along with some Ferengi marauders.
Marauders died to my fortress worlds guns and the Undine ships flew all over the place and got killed by local defense forces plus star bases and fighters.
After all that fuss i managed to kill the entity while i also had to take it up the ass from the cube and the whale probe disappeared somewhere.
Now i just gotta bring my fleet and titan against that cube and then i can start up my conquest of the rest of space.

While there were still some miniskirt uniforms in early TNG, they were pretty much gone even then.

Remember the good days, anons.

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I fucking hate that Whale Probe. Especially if you get it early game, you end up completely on the defensive. Though it's none too fond of mine fields, I've discovered.

That's a nice thing to know.
So far my only way of killing them has been to mass build steam runners and snipe it with torpedoes from half way across the gravity field.

That's generally my plan B.

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wate.com/2015/09/15/star-trek-voyagers-kes-charged-with-exposing-herself-to-children-in-harriman/

Hollywood people. The whole lot of them are crazy.

So the nacelles are in the two little "wings" right?

Does anything say what those secondary open ended tubes on these disruptors are for?

Yes, in the Deifiant episode I think they mention a hit to the wing as a nacelle hit.

Yeah it's like the klingon bird of prey with it's weird laterally arranged warp coils in the wings.

Just detail bits I think, nothing special.

Pneumatic suspension to keep the turret returning to firing position, maybe?

Structural supports. You don't want your cannons bending out of shape

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>those secondary open ended tubes

RCS Thruster nozzles. The further out along a lever you are, the greater the efficiency of the thruster. Given how long the "wings " of a BoP are, firing thrusters mounted out on the end there would be very efficient at imparting rotational energy to the BoP.

>I have no idea what they actually are, but this seems to make the most sense in my head.

But wouldn't they be bent down at both ends to lock in at multiple places if they were suspension/structural?

That makes sense, or they could be secondary barrels because Klingons like their guns.

HOLY SHIT THERE IS A STAR TREK MOD FOR SINS OF A SOLAR EMPIRE?!

Can you hook a brother up on that mod, user?

Star Trek Armada 3

moddb.com/mods/star-trek-armada-3

It has some pretty cool npc ships and events. Plus the mod team are releasing another big update soon.

I fucking loved the Armada games and had no idea someone produced a mod for STA3. You're a champion, user.

Here is a question, is there a TOS submod or version?

There's actually two, the aforementioned Armada 3 and A Sacrifice of Angels

moddb.com/mods/sacrifice-of-angels-2

And they're not practically the same either which is neat.

There was some work on a TOS mod but then Axanar happened so the dev team stopped.

Axanar yet again crushes my hopes.

Even divorced of all critism of either side, I am really interested to see how their case plays out. I mean, they got the guys who defended Chapterhouse in the dispute with GW, and whilst that wasn't a 100% success, the results, well, for GW they're still clearly in follow-up. Age of Sigmar in particular is chock-full of utter nonsense garbage but very easily to copyright names for absolutely everything, which has been detrimental to the marketing of it given the reactions.

So yeah, interesting stuff.

So after several years of trying to convince my friends to play STO the console port finally convinced them to start and now we are all like level 57ish and are buying t5 and 6 ships, and I'm torn between the odyssey tactical cruiser and the caitian atrox
On one hand I can get the bundle and be ridiculous with a deployed frigate, separated saucer, and Sheild drone on a beam boat, but on the other I can swarm stealth fighters out of a space khajit stealth carrier and both options just sound equally appealing

Update on the story.
I managed to locate the whale probe, it had gone to the Bajoran wormhole system next to Bajor and had started a long journey towards the gravity well of the linked wormhole... Without using the wormhole.
Im currently 5 hours into this game and it has barely managed to make its way outside my own little solar system.
This game is pretty wonky at times.

I would recommend getting the Jupiter class for carrier fun (if it must be a feddie carrier) then get frigate pets, they are objectively superior compared to fighter and shuttle pets, those things die if you just pass some gas.

The oddy pack is also... ok, but if you want some ridiculous damage making, get the silly looking intelligence ships and use such skills as Override Subsystem Safeties and Energy Weapons: Surgical Strikes to get infinite damage.

But, do as you yourself please.
Oddys can work as half decent tanks if you start speccing for tanking and U.S.S. Skooma might be fun too, cant speak out of experience with that one since i have never owned it.

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Cat ship is perhaps the worst full carrier (2 hangar slots) in the game. I'd avoid it. If you're wanting a carrier, get the Jupiter like >49459409
says, or save up your spacebux for a Narcine whenever that comes out for console.

I'd also avoid getting the T5 oddys. Aquarius is absolutely not worth it. T6 Sci and Tac Oddy are both p. good though. I'd save up your shekels and get the 3-pack, though, so you can have both and get the console from the Eng Oddy for set bonus fun (and eventually from the Krenim Science Vessel, whenever you people get that ship).

How about getting the command cruiser set and waiting for space zombie cruiser for invincibility mode?

Why are miniskirt uniforms so great, Veeky Forums?

Count your blessings user. That Whale Probe is lost to the Aether now.

I would be quite happy, but there is a tiny little but to this whale probe.

The fighters from my starbase went chasing it as well as the automated defense ships from Bajor.
This isn't much of a problem, since the AI doesn't seem to realize that wormholes can be used as invasion routes and because the pirate base next to Bajor acts as my front line base against anything nasty coming from the direction of the Cardassian sun.

Also, have a screencap of some dead klingon ships.
I love it how the modders made destroyed ship models for this game.

Because of the inclusion of the miniskirt.

Try assimilating ships as the Borg. You'll notice that they change to have Borg "growths" on them. The attention to detail in this mod is insane

Looks like I'm GMing this weekend. Finally have 4 people willing to try out Last Unicorn. Any tips? I was thinking of doing a mission along the Romulan Neutral zone. That way I can have shit go down and require immediate attention, lest the Romulans decide to make a move. Maybe a civilian ship drifting into the NZ, or a surveillance outpost losing power. Thoughts?

>long haired T'pol

ruins it

Really?
last time i played with them was on an earlier form of this mod, back then cardies didn't exist yet.
I probably have to go and do a little assimilation run at some point.

I dunno man, crossing the neutral zone seems to be grounds for an immediate war between Roms and Feddies.
How about instead go for a exploration mission where you meet occasionally some aliens you can either talk or fight away?
You could have some shit going down with some sufficiently high tech enemies.

You're creating the later versions of the Kobayashi Maru, user. I'd avoid that. If anything, if you don't do exploration, and want a "war" game you're looking at the Cardassian/Federation War, or the Dominion War.

>not wanting a handle when you bend her over that railing
Get it together user. The only downside is that we didn't see her in the Mirror TOS uniform for that midriff.

Ironically having longer hair makes her look more manly

She doesn't do many longer hair styles well, I'll admit. She really just needs a short ponytail.

The Feds and the Romulans cross into the NZ all the time in TNG. It was tense but they never went to war, because the Romulans don't immediately declare war like the Klingons

The main reason we don't see combat is on the strength of Picard's reputation for diplomacy. A lot of the situations we see have the Romulans only backing down because Picard has them either over a barrel or he convinced them to let it slide. And if we look at TNG, where apparently the Romulans have a fleet made solely of D'deridex class ships, I can't see them backing down from Captain Chucklefuck of the USS Get Rekt Knife Ears (A Reliant Class Ship).