Is senshi from dungeon meshi a bard?

He did make holy water, but he didn't do it by blessing water. He made it by mixing whatever substance he could think of that some culture or religion somewhere in the world considered holy or used for exorcism and purification purposes.

>Water as a base (it's supposed to be holy water)
>Treasure bug jam (golden beetles are symbols of the sun god in some culture somewhere)
>Alcohol (used in religious rituals, poured out as libations, used as a disinfectant, etc.)
>Salt (used to ward off spirits)
>Sugar (LOOKS like salt)
>Mint (it's an herb, herbs have restorative magical uses, right?)
>Prepared slime guts (gotta use up these leftovers before they go bad)

Then he put it in a bottle, tied a rope to the bottle, and used it as a flail to beat up the ghosts -- the glass passed through their incorporeal bodies, exposing them to the mixture within, which DID seem to hurt them. Since ghosts are deathly cold, the the "holy water" was chilled to an icy sludge that turned out to be basically sorbet.

He was bullshitting his way through the encounter by arguing the until the DM let him use bonuses from his cooking skill against the spirits.

I think he's just Dwarf. Like those oldschool RPGs with race/class being one thing.

I'm too young for this and never got my hands on older DnD books. How was the dwarf back then when his race was a class?

Bards can technically take anything as a Performance skill.

Even Performance: Dead Gnome Jokes.

"What's the best thing about twenty one year old dead gnomes?" Said the Kobold Bard.

"?" Said user.

"There's twenty of them!" Said the rat-like, scaled, dog-faced creature with a heinous laugh.

I fucking hate those "there's twenty X" riddles. It's not clever, it's trickery that relies on the hearer mishearing or assuming.

No, its pronounced Baka Gaijin

Basically a fighter, better saves, some minor specials. But the great thing about those older editions is the very simplicity and the rigid sameyness of the rules for each dwarf or what-have-you encourages the DM and players to improvise and add character via outside-the-rules adjudication, or by adding little custom rules. It would be super easy to play Senshi in BECMI.

Is dungeon meshi where this elf girl is in?

I can honestly say, at first I thought "cute", now I'm just annoyed by it.

The ears and the expression, they no longer do it for me.

Yeah. It's a pretty good comic. The main character is a madman.

>The ears and the expression, they no longer do it for me
What the fuck is wrong with you? Marcille is a treasure.

Yeah; she's the party's wizard. I can see how all this Marcille waifuspam might turn you off on her, but she's a really great character.

yeah it's the spam,

didn't mean to offend you, I was just trying to be honest.

"After an unfortunate encounter with a fire-breathing chimera, Marcille is left with most of her clothing ruined. Not wanting to walk through the dungeon wearing nothing but scraps, she reluctantly agrees to put on a rather raunchy outfit that the party found in a chest some time ago.

That night, she realizes to her terror that the outfit is cursed and can’t be removed. Being a versed mage, Marcille concludes that the outfit must have a succubus curse in place: it won’t come off until she orgasms from having sex.

Luckily, Laius is there to help her break the curse..."

Neither of those words are standard accepted superior English, please revise.

On the other hand isn't Marcille more of a Necromancer now.

>Neither of those words are standard accepted superior English
nor is "westaboo"

Can you be a non evil necromancer?

In Dungeon Meshi you can. Marcille isn't precisely a necromancer so much as she is a specialist in forbidden magic. She claims that magic is neither good nor evil, only what it is used for. It looks like forbidden magic in Dungeon Meshi isn't so much Evil as it is Chaotic.

On the Veeky Forums wiki I said she was a specialist in "black magic" to avoid spoilers: "black magic" in an RPG context can refer to forbidden magic or to simply destructive magic, and we see that Marcille is a competent in the latter and specially skilled in the former.

I've read that doujin!

Marcille x Laius holding hands chapter when

She's evil, she's gonna turn evil in the next chapter

How does one just up and turn evil?

Shit can happen man. Maybe she just fucking snaps from being stuck in a shitty dungeon and forced to eat monsters and shit and getting violated by a man eating plant, or she falls to the whole "possessed by evil magic because she used too much bad magic" trope.

Absolutely. Two good Veeky Forums stories are about a neutral but lazy necromancer that just uses his minions to make sandwiches and go shopping, while another story involves a necromancer using his art to help remove the peasantry from the fields and mines so they can pursue education and leave poverty.

I wish I had those images. Those were great stories.

It's not a riddle. You're not supposed to head the phrase off at the pass and always be on top of it. It's a joke. You're right in that it completely relies on you misunderstanding it, but that's because the reversal of your expectation is where the humour comes from.

He said dedicated healer, Elf is much more Black Mage than White Mage, she can use healing magic but she's not very good at it.

She just throws a lot of energy into an inefficient healing spell to basically nuke the wounds, inflicting unbelievable pain on the patient.

Don't think she will. If anything, it will be Farlyn that will become evil/mad/have her soul mixed with the dragon or some shit because resurrecting magic isn't that simple or something. Even then I think she will just be "changed" rather than strait up evil.
I'm expecting some sad with Farlyn.

I seem to be the only person that is concerned about the elf, because she used her blood for the ritual, we don't know why it's forbidden and how spooky it looked. In the same chapter it's stated that monsters don't have souls and the dragon itself doesn't seem to be a very magical creature, not some shapeshifting magic-user. Just a giant, fire-breathing lizard. Nowhere has it been stated that when resurrected people can get mixed up with the animals that are used in these rituals and I trust Ryuko not to pull that out of her ass.

Remember these words, Farlyn will be fine, Marcille will suffer for this.

>inflicting unbelievable pain on the patient
I think that's just how healing magic works in this setting.

>I think that's just how healing magic works in this setting.
Honestly I like it. Much better than "LOL all better now, no pain, no side effects."

Yeah, but when magic looks that spooky it's definitely forbidden for a reason.

Wasn't there a theory that elves stay superior by essentially harvesting good genes from the human population and slowly breeding the human out of the descendants. Since humans live such short lives an Elf like Marcille sacrificing 10-30 years to make sure Lauis's Autist Superpowers get passed on would be nothing. She has already shown she is not what she appeared to be. She could just be there to claim Lauis's super-human-mutant-baby-batter.

Think about it, how much would the elven kingdom benefit from an addition of super-strong intelligent autistic mutants who can't understand the concept of pain and are willing to eat what they kill and not complain. Jesus Christ, Lauis's offspring are going to be like the elven version of Uruk-khai

Could be that actual healers just add anesthetics to their spells.

Yeah, I think Marci is just bad at it.

>super-strong intelligent autistic mutants who can't understand the concept of pain and are willing to eat what they kill and not complain
Finns?

Sounds about right, yeah.

I thought Uruk-khai were the elven version of Uruk-khai.

Her remembering everyone's names without being reminded is a good sign.
The fact that she simply mumbled their names in dazed recognition is a bad sign, although to be fair she did basically just wake up form a coma.

One thing that I've noticed that it seems like nobody else has mentioned is that in chapter 27, her eyes are wide open. Every time we've seen her before, in the first chapter and in flashbacks, she's sported that eyes-closed-but-not-really anime look. She's opened her eyes a few times, but now as you can see, her eyes are wide open the whole time. I think that may be a bad sign.

Depends on the setting like all things

Now now, the screams are how you know the healing is working. It's necessary feedback along with the vomiting and sobbing and begging to be allowed to die.

In that condition her eyes being open are the best indication the author has of her not being unconscious/dead

Ranger and similar classes.

I'd say he's Fighter with one level dip in Ranger.

It might be forbidden because A) resurrection magic is not so simple outside a dungeon that binds the souls of those who die in it to their bodies and B) the spell normally requires you to sacrifice a large amount of livestock to restore a single human body from a skeleton -- and a smallish, young female one at that. Anyone who would be using the fleshweave spell out in the real world would probably either be a mad ruler who would demand large numbers of animals from his subjects. Depending on just how much organic mass the spell consumes, this could bankrupt a less-than-affluent farming population.

And yeah, maybe people also don't like it because it looks spooky.

Unfortunately we haven't seen how resurrection magic outside of the dungeon looks like, and the gnome makes it look really simple.

What bothers me is Marcille using her own blood. This just screams evil to me.

Also, the other banned magic in the series we've seen was banned because of an industrial fuckup. Spells aren't always banned for being eeeeevil.

And Marcille said earlier that she knew how to make a golem...

Where can I download all issues of this to binge-read?

>What bothers me is Marcille using her own blood. This just screams evil to me.

Actually it's okay. If she used someone else blood that would have been much worse.

Marcille is not evil. She is a pure elf mage. Her magic just happens to offend weak human sensibilities.

Better her own blood than someone else's.

Also, somewhere in the comic they explained how resurrection magic worked inside the dungeon. Senshi was all like, "It's not natural; people die when they are killed," and Marcille said that all that was necessary to raise someone in the dungeon was to make sure the soul stays put while you heal their body until it's functional again. I believe the quote was, "It's as if death itself is forbidden here." You'd have to jump through significant hoops to raise someone from the dead outside the dungeon, and it looks like the fleshweave spell was just one such hoop.

It's too early to tell how the series is going to treat its concept of "bad magic". We've only seen that one spell, and we haven't seen its aftereffects yet. Also remember that forbidden magic is literally Marcille's major, so it'd be reasonable to assume that she's fully aware of any possible side effects. Magic itself in this setting isn't some mysterious thing that's only vaguely understood. Magic in Dungeon Meshi, at least as we've seen it so far, is only mysterious if its source is also mysterious. The gnomes were studying the magic in the dungeon so they could figure out more about who cast it and how they cast it, not because magic itself was poorly understood.

ehscans.wordpress.com/dungeon-meshi/
The first chapter has been translated by Habanero Scans-Psylocke Scans, you have to google that yourself.

>She just throws a lot of energy into an inefficient healing spell to basically nuke the wounds, inflicting unbelievable pain on the patient.
>Laius complains that it feels funny as he gets his leg reattached.

Man, Laius is so fucked up on so many levels.

Laius got his leg fucked by the dragon's jaw, so the pain may have felt like itching by comparison.

It's available in high quality on bato.to. You'll have to create an account there to read it, but it's simple to do so.

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>talking about classes
Please don't do this, please no.

The thing is though, it's not the first time Laius has seemed sort of...unbothered by pain.

Remember the grasping vines and how he cheerfully donated his body to clear them?

Fanart?

Yep.

It's fanart, don't worry. It's a reference to the Wizardry game series, to which Dungeon Meshi owes a lot of inspiration.

I thought it was early concept.

>Playing with so few classes that need to call a Cook a Bard

Dungeoneer Cook is the best class anyway. Even before Dungeon Meshi I liked to play it this way. A Cook is an allrounder who can do all sorts of things and help in various situations. i really like that

Might this be porn?

thanks sempai, already got 'em, up to ch27

azn elf a qt

i want to pat her ears

It includes that character from this early concept, but it's fanart.

Sadly, no; it's just that one page.

...IS there porn of the ninja catgirl?

This is relevant to my interests

Outside the dungeon, we can assume that its unimaginably complex and difficult since one of the major reasons the dungeon is important to the powers that be is that it makes resurrection exceedingly easy. We see the gnome doing the resurrection simply since the death was caused recently and the body was almost perfectly in tact

I guess it may be ok.
The thing is Farlyn (apathetic) reaction is strange in a fictional way, but totally makes sense considering she was, well, dead for a while. It's weird because in a fiction we tend to expect a much more emotional response on her part to such an event.

But there is also the flashback/dream sequence where she said Lauis goodbye...

Outside the dungeon resurrection probably plain doesn't work since the soul escapes the body and the mortal coil altogether.

Resurrection on badly injured adventurers from the dungeon seem to be about replacing lost flesh with new.

It'll be interesting to hear what was different about Marcille's spell. My guess though is that it used the power of chaos/dark/evil instead of order/light/good to fuel the spell, not that the spell in itself was anything special.

>Outside the dungeon resurrection probably plain doesn't work since the soul escapes the body and the mortal coil altogether
In the overworld chapter you see a whole building dedicated to store corpses and resurrection.

Yeah, but they seem to be still connected to the dungeon.

In the outer world you need soul catchers like the ring on the corpse to keep the soul in place. The dungeon itself is just a really big soul catcher.

>Outside the dungeon resurrection probably plain doesn't work since the soul escapes the body and the mortal coil altogether.
I'm more inclined to think that it does work, but is simply a lot more costly.

They did explain it's much simpler when there's not a ton of biomass to replace

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Post Dungeon Cooks

I think given that she went from having the flesh melted off her bones over days to being alive again, she has every right to be very traumatized.

Silly user, you drown before your flesh melts

Senshi is clearly a ranger with the Dungeon as his favorite terrain

>talking about dark things
>in my Dungeon meshi

NO

YOU STOP TELLING YOUR WHORE LIES

DUNGEON MESHI IS COMFY AND CUTE

BAD THINGS WILL NOT HAPPEN TO FARLYN AND MARCIELLE! THEY WILL NOT!

REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

Filename related.

He's more of a Ranger with Knowledge: Cooking. But IIRC his official class is just Fighter, because Japs can't fathom a dwarf ranger.

I think this was the first thing I saw from dungeon meshi. That autistic fighter and those dead elf eyes made me pic it up instantly.

Dark things already happened in dungeon meshi.

Why is she so perfect Veeky Forums?

She's basically a japanese elf that isn't a blatant fap-bait, but still manages to be cute and sometimes even beautiful, has an actual character, can be very funny and is a reaction image goldmine. Sometimes she really fucks up, because she isn't a mary sue elf that is better than you, sometimes she is still useful to the party.

And she has the cutest ears in all of fantasylands.

Remember that time Laius tricked his friends into eating the eggs of tool forging creatures.

>A Cook is an allrounder who can do all sorts of things and help in various situations. i really like that
That's...Entirely accurate. I've got a friend who was a cook while serving in the army, and he can confirm it's a great way to pick up all sorts of useful skills.

Dungeon Meshi is a god-damn delight you swine.

No, you bastard of a brain, not dungeon cocks.

Women are better at drawing cute women.

I mean worst case scenario the sister is brought back but the soul has already fled, so basically they rezzed a body with no soul. Memories, but none of the spark of the person she was. Assuming that's even possible. She's obviously still out of it, but if she continues being so listless and doesn't seem like her normal self, that's a pretty bad sign.

Next worst case using a red dragon means she can now breath fire. May not actually be a bad thing, but if she thinks she can fly and she can't then keep her from climbing any tall structures until she figures it out.

For some reason I'm reminded here of the old D&D clone spell, but that just copied the body from a piece of the original and the soul transfers safely to the new home (assuming it can).

Between this and Kaoru Mori's works I think that's 100% truth.