You are all parasites wanting to get rich off of tulips and digital garbage...

>implying D.O. is a bad thing

>t. PGY 3 Ortho fag, graduated from DO school.

D.O. is solid. Better than faggy Caribbean or Foreign.

Just score well on your MLE’s 1 and 2.

>You do watch the news right? This is all just a huge fucking bubble that's going to go to zero.
Lmao do you still watch MSM
That's pretty retarded, but what else could I expect from a wageslave loser.
Apologize and post your wallet address, I'll give you some BTC out of pity

100% agree

All jokes aside, if you have any significant amount of crypto and no other investments or cash you should really cash at least 1/4 of it and put it into sturdy investments, not digital currencies.

I literally made £100k while doing my Astrophysics major in the past 3 months.

The fact that you seem unable to do both makes you look like a cuck.

OP you'll be making 250k a year by the time you are 70, we are making 250k a month right now

>starting out at 250,000$ a year
LOL did they tell you that? That's rich . . .

Betcha took out loans for that didn't you?

I could pay cash, thanks to my investments.

By the time you graduate I'll have bought a few thousand acres of (working) land. You can play doctor, I'll play Earl.

don't consult internal med for your stable healthy patients nigga

Yeah, you right, have fun probing anuses.

TOP FUCKING KEK

Nice fucking lies. No one here and I fucking repeat no one here has made more than 250,000 $cad this year. There is absolutely no way. Doctors make more than investors any day!

>not going to a specialist

Shiggy

Pretty funny if you get this: youtu.be/IwsYQhJY2pM

Kinda true tho about orthofags such as myself, we tend to get retarded when we finish.

Medical students are mostly ambitious brainlets. Medicine is all regurgitation and mammilian politics. Not saying there isn't a sizeable chunk of driven geniuses in the medical field, but those individuals would be brilliant and highly paid wherever they applied themselves.

t. polymath who lived with several medical students over the years and was friends with dozens more.

hohohoohohohohohohoho

No matter how much you make you are still a wagecuck and woman hates wagecucks.

Honestly its mostly hard work and common sense.

Its like an art. Most doctors are becoming technicians which is what my proceptor is steering me from.

By technician I mean the sense of following a check list of symptoms and treating it as is. Rather than steering questions a certain way when talking to patients if you suspect something is asymptomatic.

Aspiring wagecuck in for a big surprise ...

>be compsci fag
>get internship at NIH
>become friends with (pre)medfags
>buy into bitcoin in 2011
>lol user, you buying drugs
>you shouldn't be fucking hookers user
>fast forward to now
>retired after grad school
>own house, car
>student loans paid off
>buying airbnb rental properties for outside revenue streams
>medfags just starting residencies
>medfags still apt living
>medfags still have car payments

lol, I bet you think a law degree is a license to print money too.

Post the proofs then faggits. Show me anyone here who is worth more than 250,000 cad$$$ and I'll drop out of medical school right now. Prove Me wrong.

Pro Tip: you can't

naw we get the same shit.
Renal, r/o pre and post, anything intra - consult nephro

weird cultures, consult infx dz

wants to discharge on narcs? go see your outpt pcp

ED consults are the worst cuz their algorithms for potential admits are liberal compared to our indicators

>Post the proofs then faggits. Show me anyone here who is worth more than 250,000 cad$$$ and I'll drop out of medical school right now. Prove Me wrong.
Nah we need you to do our biding when we retire next year.

Tell me about it man. Fuck, i hate doing dictations. Sucks monkey dick. I do it for the attendings so im on their “non-shit” list. Perk is that they like you and tend not to make you the bitch. Don’t be the attending’s bitch.

In regards to crypto, it could work with the healthcare industry. I really hate going to the clinic and interviewing a patient while my face is staring at a computer entering notes. Really kills the patient-doctor interaction.

Also tips for any medfags... don’t fuck a nurse. Those bitches are crazy.

hahah people post portfolio's of like 1/2 million and shit like that

eat poo doctor poo man pooey

That's what you're supposed to do. It's a science. People that think they have a 6th sense and just diagnose/treat based on "how they feel" are full of shit and it's just human ego getting in the way. Guidelines and objective criteria are boring but the most backed up by evidence. The only reason the doctor is there is so that someone can make the grey area decisions and take responsibility so there's someone to blame/sue later (only thing stopping it from being completely automated)

>I've been watching can
Seems interesting, what can are you watching user? A can of beans?

3rd year medical student here
Almost 200k in debt
Be 300k in debt when i graduate in 2019
Looking forward to making 58-65k/year as a resident for 4-7 years
Won't be making doctorbux until 2024-2026

>started with small crypto investment in 2014
>hoping this shit eventually pays off my student loans

Hospitalists have this shit culture of trying to alpha male authority. "I would've done this," "those diagnostics / interventions are a waste of money," "lets order this expensive diagnostic, the results of which will not change any current or future plan."

Our hospitalist group gets along with everyone except ourselves.

>med school
enjoy the alcoholism and benzoes

>Honestly its mostly hard work and common sense.
Two things that most people lack.

Its a hybrid imo. Certain disorders, diseases present asymptomatically.

Ill give you an example of a patient I saw during my 4th year rotations.

>pt is a 65 year old male with parkinsons
>chronic alcoholic, 5-6 drinks a day
>presents with chronic cirrhosis and ALD
>on palpation, liver was hard and non tender
>pt also complained of RUQ pain, and murphy was positive and US was positive for stones
>so my proceptor at the time wanted to tackle the chief complaint (lap chloe), but what bothered him during questioning was pt has had diarrhea for the past week.
>upon further exam, pt was positive for acute pancreatitis.

The thing is my proceptor told me that most doctors would have disregarded the diarrhea and proceeded with the chloe. Which is dangerous with a patient with pancreatitis. So if that wasn’t caught, patient would have died sooner than expected since he was a degenerate alcoholic

Word of advice for OR fags. Get along with your techs. They can fuck with your shit and make you look bad.

Also get along with the anesthesia crew, sometimes they’ll help you out and give you more rooms to work with.

what's curious is pancreatitis should've always been considered.

Two of the highest risks are present

Gall stones, and ETOH

Ordering a lipase should've been the ED's job, fuck the ED

So let me get this right.

Assuming you pass medical examinations, and assuming you don't have someone paying all your loans.

Your starting on $80,000- $100,000 a year best case scenario.
Your debt is likely in excess of $250,000.

Good luck OP, your going to need it.

O wow does doctors seriously make that much money there in states? Here in Nordic average salary for doctor who is specialised in something is somewhere between 5000-12000€/month depending on if you work for private or public sector

Quick q

I'm doing a rotation in ID at a community hospital and for some reason my chief fucking hates me. His other student is this hot chick, which I assume has something to do with it, but I keep getting shit on.

Makes me take extra cases, shits on my presentations, stay late, constantly pimps me on shit not even related to the cases. I know I'm doing better than the other student, who comes in fucking late with no reprisal and misses cases cause she's on a long lunch or whatever.

Anything I can do to get off my chief's shit list or do I just need to grit my teeth till the month is done?

Oncologist here
Fuck you and your medicine
You have no idea what youre getting into

No one starts at 80
Median resident salary is 58, move to 64 by your 4th year,
Only ones at 80 are fellows (been making 58-65/yr for 3-4 years) or residents killing themselves moonlighting 20 hr/week on top of their 60hr workweek

Im riding the Bitcoin tulip mania too but I am disgusted at how much this board has changed in 4-5 years.

This place was fantastic.. it was full of startups, someone making food products who just got a big deal with a supermarket... some ARAB pajeet who was rich as fuck posting about his investments.. guys who grew their companies from 24k investment to 500,000 revenue.

I met up with a business partner through this board - we have been happily trading since.. now this stuff is not possible.

More importantly from the stories there were people interested in ACTUAL business with ACTUAL value. Crypto threads were utterly shamed. There were mooning threads about certain stocks but it was rare..

Can't wait for the tulip bubble to pop so we can get back to real business.

Sure enjoy this shit while it lasts but make some actual investments with your gains please - don't just buy other worthless coins with zero application to the real world.

ED only treats the symptom. Its annoying as fuck.
Grit your teeth. Don’t piss him off. Do his dictations.

Best way to get off a shit list is doing their dictations or at least helping, pre-oping their patients, and try to stay out of your Chief’s way.

>funny that I’m in line for Chief, in a year or two cause my proceptors love me.

Medicine has a whole lot of brown nosing and politics. But its worth it when you get offered to join a group or get stellar recs for fellows or jobs. Its who you know!

> People thinking this post is serious

nice just shorted btc 100x leverage

Where's your proof of anything?
You missed out on +2000%, please try to deal with that in your own way instead of shitposting, thanks!

wow i didnt realise there were so many medfags on Veeky Forums

is the field becoming saturated in the US at all? there is going to be an excess of graduates in aus in the next few years because we imported so many of them over the last few years

>5 years

wasnt this board made in early-mid 2014?

Also. Don’t fuck anyone in your residency class. Don’t fucking do it.

>be pgy 1 friend
>qt 3.14 asian medfag ortho bitch
>he bangs her
>never calls
>awkward whenever they see each other which is every other day
>alot of drama
>pgy 1 fag ends up switching to IM cause girl threatened to blackmail and file a sexual harassment suit

Med bitches are crazy. Don’t do it.

you do you mr betabux

>reddit spacing
didn't read. sage

many our ED is top tier then

I just expect a dx, few ddx, brief 1-2 minute hx, interventions or testing performed.

Like for your case in specific, fairly cut and dry for the parkinsons ALD pancreatitis

Our ED would at least run a liver profile, coags, well...the rainbow set of labwork as per usual, maybe an ultrasound or CT ABD, and at least start the initial order sets of NPO, PCA analgesia, fluids, etc etc

maybe I've been spoiled

Alright, appreciate it. He hasn't asked me to do dictations, but I'll try.

He gave me shit last week for an improperly formatted pt note. Actually sat me down with the attending who proceeded to tell me nothing was wrong with my note.

Hopefully offering to help with his dictations will stop shit like this from happening.

No. AMC makes sure to make a bottleneck for that. MD-DO merger makes it harder for foreign and caribs to get residences which imo, is a good thing just, because most carib students are retards, and foreign fags are just SOL.

Oh if you want to make big bucks, live and work in a rural community. Hospitals pay a premium for specialists.

Example:

>ortho fag in LA makes probably 400k-500k a year, but cost of living is high as fuck

>orthofag works in rural California (Fresno, Bakersfield, Visalia), they’ll paid a premium by hospitals... i’m taking 600k-800k (if the practice is solid)

Cost of living in central cal is cheap, and LA or SF is about 3-4 hours away, and by the 2020 HSR train, 1.5 hrs.

For sure. I've heard enough horror stories to not shit where I eat

whatever

You’re spoiled. My rotation was at a county hospital. I wanted to KMS just because the volume was insane and there was a dearth of doctors. Good for clinical exp. tho.

If you're not chad why fucking try. Crypto is my only hope for a better life. Anything else is just throwing my life away so chad and stacey can party and fuck and travel.

do you have a clue how much money ive made in my bedroom while never having worked a single job or even day in my ENTIRE life. like how clueless are normals right now. I MADE 5-6x WHAT YOU MAKE A YEAR IN THE LAST MONTH

Probably because medfags like learning how things work, and crypto is innovative in really interesting ways

also money, medfags love money

>saturation
not for docs, not now, probably not ever
US is notoriously high on medical certification and licensure standards and we're squeezing out foreign docs more and more as we go along, which is a little strange when you have a doc shortage as high as the US, but meh

If you're in the field, it just increases demand for your work and gives you more room to grow

U a kuk

nice larp

nothing like waking at 8 o clock to do a colonoscopy of a 70 year old woman.

WHAT A LIFE.

There's money in shit

G.I. is all cash baby.

Or if you want to be the king of fags and be rich be Derm or Radio

fucking this with some Caribbean Docs

worked with one who did anesthesia, would cancel routine shit all the time for trivial reasons.

He went to work at some pain clinic, handed out meds a little too liberally, and one of his patients overdosed on fentanyl patches. License accusation..., no real rhyme to reason identified with prescribing, no conversion, medical expert testimony made him look like he had the medical knowledge of a high school premed wanna-be, license action....license suspended.

haven't worked with many Caribbean docs though, think it was just him desu

Dunno for the docs, but I've met maybe 7-8 carib students on rotation. Most were dumb as rocks, 2 were really bright though, not gunners, good to have on your team.

They’re mostly college wash outs.

If you suck in undergrad and really want to be a doctor, do post-bac and then DO. Like me.

>be me
>be undergrad
>basically tread water and survive with a 2.5
>decide to almost quit, then switch major from biochem to neurosci
>get 3.0 avg for rest of undergrad
>obviously undergrad gpa is shit
>take two years off and do post bac, clinical, and volunteering.
>4.0 in post bac, 1000+ hours in clinical, volunteering, shadow
>stellar rec letters
>murder MCAT with a 34
>go to DO since they dropped low grades
>Kill MLE’s (94% step 1, 95% step 2)
>get accepted into Ortho

Literally just hard work and perseverance, and networking. Most med school students are fucking autists so if you at least are sociable you’re way ahead of the game

I may respect you if you make 250k with your own business and are scalable but wagecucking?
Dude you already know the max cap on your income. Even if its high thats lame as fuck

True lambolang will only be achieved with high risk such as owning your pwn business etc = no ceiling on income.

HURR DURR MAX I'LL MAKE IS X. Lol I cashed out 1m the other day and yaea its a bubble I dont care. Im literally taking wagecucks bux who are laggards and get hyped into buying the ATH when they watch TV exhausted from a long days work fucking LMAO

If you don't mind my asking, is your ortho program in a major city?

My path was kinda similar, but I was a nontrad and didn't do a postbacc

>be undergrad
>mechanical engineering
>be lazy
>c's get degrees
>graduate with a 2.9
>work as an engineer for a few years
>boring
>decide on medicine
>everyone says impossible cause GPA
>41 MCAT
>school suddenly interested
>still couldn't get a scholarship cause shit GPA

Studying for step1, I'm putting my all into it, hoping to break 250
Not sure what I wanna do, but I wanna be in a major city is all

UK medfag here. I’d rather do my residency in the states as there’s much better payment but never heard of anyone actually doing this. will grad in 3 yrs.

Is it too difficult to get a residency match in a good specialty for a uk med graduate? Not us citizen

best way to do it, grats on getting into it.

Is work/life style good for you?

I don't have the drive to take call for 1-2 hospitals as ortho, follow outpatients, manage inpatients, and fielding phone calls from PT and nursing all day

>4.0 post bacc
>34 mcat

You could have gone md still retard

he's ortho, he probably uses OMT on occasion

>Wagie nocoiner LARPer

Neck yourself bucko

Yes. High volume actually. But also I networked like a motherfucker. Especially with 4th year rotations.

Ya for residency tho, always look for high volume areas. The type of shit that makes you work till you are a zombie in autopilot. You learn fast. And the skills come to you, which helps later when you apply for an actual job and they let you “trial”.
For derm, ortho, anesthesia, Surgery, gi, urology, forget about it as an FMG. Its very hard or they will outright not take you. Sorry, but that’s a perk of graduating in the US.

Without a citizenship... forget about it. Most hospitals won’t go through the headache of petitioning you, especially now.

My dad got lucky back in the 90’s when green cards were plentiful and the anesthesia market died cause of Clinton letting CRNA’s practice on their own.

Now its nearly impossible to do. Sorry man.

The lifestyle sucks for now, thus I’m up at 4am doing laundry and shitposting on a Chia Pet enthusiast forum.

I look at it as a marathon, once im done with residency, ill be comfy. Plus crypto is helping me pay off loans. (Bought buttcoin back in 2012)

Most MDs still average post bacc grades into undergrad. They’re strict like that.

Either way DO i personally love, and OMM helps alot with Ortho.

Can someone explain the Reddit spacing meme

Why are paragraph breaks bad rofl

eat shit faggots

Lmao this needs to stay on the frontpage

Nice

As a permaneet yuropoor coiner dating a 10/10 american girl much younger than me, there's something incredibly satisfying knowing i'm snatching this perfect woman away from college cucks
Even better when the cognitive dissonance gets so bad they solve this by calling larp
Thanks OP, today's going to be another good day

Yeah they all average it in but it's pretty well known that post bacc is seen as a way of proving that you can actually handle the course load. A 4.0 post bacc in at least a few MD schools would have shown that you are capable enough. I'm just a premed myself though so I'm partially talking out of my ass, but I only have a 3.4 GPA so I've done a lot of research about it. Anyway congrats for pulling through man.

Diagnostic algorithms take tests into account
As the other user said they should have done pancreas enzymes

As it is everyone just does what they feel like.. one will give diuretics and call you an idiot for giving fluids, with an identical case another attending will do the opposite and also call you an idiot.

It's all ego and social power games/popularity contests where the losers get constantly subverted. Hospital work sucks if you're not Chad

This

As a medical myself, I realized the truth far too late

Just keep your head down and work. And network brah. We’re all gonna make it.

Holy fuck

Literal multimillionaires post here

I made a million this month alone. Don't quit your job though, we need you guys to cuck yourself into $500k of medical school debt and slave for us.

>500k of debt

That seems high tbqh. My loving parents did pay for my undergrad I suppose to be fair.

That one is a larp though. He didn't make a 37 million percentage gain in 24 hours.

Kill the MCAT, get interviews, don't be a sociopath, get into med school

Do you think I should do a post bacc with a 3.4 or just try to kill the mcat and apply? My grades are kind of weird a get a bunch of A's but each semester I get like one random grade in the C to B- range. I also failed orgo the first time around and had to retake

Actual LARP.

>Hasn't graduated medical school
>Attending salary in 3 years
>What is residency
>What is fellowship
>Probably in high school
>Will likely not score >20th percentile on his MCAT

Go be a dental hygienist ...

Oh, also - postbacc helps less than you think as far as what I was told.
If it's an MS, it's not factored into your undergrad GPA, not factored into your BCPM GPA
You're banking on the adcom screening hundreds of applications to take the extra time to look past your GPA and MCAT to see what your postgrad coursework.
I also heard that some adcoms ignore postbacc GPA when they look at undergrad GPA trends

That's why I put all my eggs into the MCAT. But did the postbacc route and it worked, so who the hell knows

just my two cents though

wow!