Add to a rapier

whereismyname
whereismyname

Im going to be an engineer for a (Not)Steampunk setting who's using a rapier as their main weapon, I'm trying to think of what i can add on to it to make it better.

Other than giving it an electric current i can't think of anything

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Harmless_Venom
Harmless_Venom

@whereismyname
A mirror sheen that lets you see behind you

Soft_member
Soft_member

@whereismyname
he doesn`t put thrusters on a thrusting weapon
the nerve

happy_sad
happy_sad

@whereismyname
Slap a small gun on that bitch. And give it some sick tassels on the end of the pommel.

takes2long
takes2long

@Soft_member
that sounds ridiculous, and beautiful to rationalize to your GM

Techpill
Techpill

@whereismyname
You could add 2 small flintlock pistols to the gun.

Evilember
Evilember

@whereismyname

Gyroscopic pommel that helps balance the weapon better making strikes more accurate
Ignition piston that adds more punch upon striking subject
Pistol lined up with the blade for small caliber surprises

LuckyDusty
LuckyDusty

@hairygrape
No.

Use gun. And if that don't work: more gun

Flameblow
Flameblow

@whereismyname
Make blades expendable and explosive. Stab, detonate, fit new one.

You can also make it work as an electrode for arc welding/cutting.

BlogWobbles
BlogWobbles

@whereismyname
Telescoping blade, so you can choose from among anything from a smallsword to an extra-long rapier as the situation dictates.

RumChicken
RumChicken

@whereismyname
Add a way for it to sweat or eject oil for a flaming sword that can also be a flamethrower.

MPmaster
MPmaster

@takes2long
hope by that you mean it`s amazing

King_Martha
King_Martha

@whereismyname
Ripcord on the basket hilt. Pulling causes the blade to rotate rapidly into a drill.

Evil_kitten
Evil_kitten

@whereismyname
Hidden dagger.

Playboyize
Playboyize

@whereismyname
The ability to launch the blade for surprise attacks.

haveahappyday
haveahappyday

@whereismyname
You have options.

Option one has been mentioned and is predictable in the form of a pistol. Boring.

likme
likme

@haveahappyday
Option 2 is a variation of @Evil_kitten
, but better.

Instead of a hidden dagger, you hide another sword in your sheath. The cased rapiers are flat to eachother and fit in one sheath.

Techpill
Techpill

@likme
Option three is much more in the realm of an artificer/engineer: Your sword is a fine timepiece, as well as a weapon.

DeathDog
DeathDog

@Techpill
At option 4, we start into the exotic options.

Using a reinforced locking sheath, your hilt becomes a warhammer.

Spazyfool
Spazyfool

@DeathDog
option 5: Need to extract information or wow a kinky lady? The pear-of-agony pommel is your bet!

Gigastrength
Gigastrength

@Spazyfool
And though there are many more options we'll end with option 6: The extending rapier (1/2)...

Carnalpleasure
Carnalpleasure

@happy_sad
Would tassels on the pommel make the pommel an ineffective weapon?

New_Cliche
New_Cliche

@Gigastrength
I lied, last one: Option 7, also making use of a reinforced sheath, combo linstock (a long rod with a burning slowmatch for firing cannon) and musket rest rapier. An engineer shouldn't be in close quarters anyway.

Firespawn
Firespawn

GunSheath?

TalkBomber
TalkBomber

@Carnalpleasure
it would making "Ending him rightly" more showy

AwesomeTucker
AwesomeTucker

@whereismyname
I'm a big fan of giving it extra stabbing power via technology. Maybe it hooks into a steam generator backpack, and then at the push of a button it channels steam pressure through the tube and out the bottom, lending extra speed to your thrust.

JunkTop
JunkTop

Trigger activated pilebunker type thing.

You stab it in someone and pull the trigger and it either extends further or maybe have thorn type mini blades extend along the blade. Either spring loaded or explosive cartridge for extra rule of cool.

Inmate
Inmate

@TalkBomber
I meant as a blunt melee weapon.

Your comment is making me think of possible "End him rightly" modifications.

Maybe a whistle that makes a noise when it goes through the air at sufficient speed (said speed threshold would have to be slower than what would be accomplished when the player throws it vigorously) or steam emitter to make it a better distraction.

Ignoramus
Ignoramus

@Inmate
Quick detach pommel, that is also a grenade. You pull the tassel once it's been detached, use it as a sling, bonk 'im in the head, then it explodes.

Make sure the tassel can only be pulled once the pommel has detached.

Then you end him rightly.

Stupidasole
Stupidasole

@whereismyname
Two words: piston rapier.

Fried_Sushi
Fried_Sushi

@Evil_kitten
End him rightly?

Harmless_Venom
Harmless_Venom

@Gigastrength
@Methnerd
Holy shit, that's Bloodborne as fuck

Garbage Can Lid
Garbage Can Lid

@whereismyname
Vibrates for a saw-like motion
Vibrates for a jackhammer like motion
Superheats
Supercools
Emits plasma energy from the tip for enhanced cutting power
As above but without licensing issues from Capcom
Edge is coated in solidified poison
As above but without licensing issue from LucasArts
Emits compressed air from the tip to increase damage to flesh

haveahappyday
haveahappyday

@Harmless_Venom
Came to post this.

Methshot
Methshot

@Garbage Can Lid
Edge is coated in salt; you have a backup sword coated in pepper

Evil_kitten
Evil_kitten

@haveahappyday
What is the stuff that looks like butterfly antenna supposed to do?

Poker_Star
Poker_Star

@Evil_kitten
Same as @New_Cliche

Lord_Tryzalot
Lord_Tryzalot

@Ignoramus
Has End Him Rightly mutated into killing someone from throwing a pommel at him, and that's it? Because the original joke said that the pommel is a distraction, and while the victim is distracted, you close the distance and kill him.

TalkBomber
TalkBomber

@Poker_Star
I don't know what that does either. It looks like it's a pommel or something, but it's weird shape makes me think it does something other than help the user hold onto the hilt (or provides a function that helps the user hold onto the hilt in a weird way).

Fuzzy_Logic
Fuzzy_Logic

@whereismyname
Steam jets for extra thrust when stabbing.

Supergrass
Supergrass

@TalkBomber
The post literally says "musket rest rapier". Come on, user.

Boy_vs_Girl
Boy_vs_Girl

@Fuzzy_Logic
extra thrust when stabbing.
No no no, you want extra SPIN a split-second after stabbing, to make sure your enemy bleeds to death!

SomethingNew
SomethingNew

@Supergrass
You're right. I'm an idiot.

Burnblaze
Burnblaze

If I use it as a war hammer, do I just murder stroke? Or do I have the blade sheathed or something.

Nude_Bikergirl
Nude_Bikergirl

@Burnblaze
Cheathing in the middle of combat is stupid. And rapiers are not even particularly sharp.

haveahappyday
haveahappyday

@Nude_Bikergirl
Sheathing
Sorry.

Bidwell
Bidwell

@whereismyname
The blade is hollow, and you have a mechanism to drip oil onto the blade and then ignite it.

haveahappyday
haveahappyday

@whereismyname
How about making the blade detachable and shootable via steampower? Like you have a steam pack and you used it to build pressure in the grip of the sword. When you press the trigger the blade shoots off in the direction you are pointing. you could have a quiver with extra blades built into your sheath

CodeBuns
CodeBuns

@Lord_Tryzalot
[citation needed]

Playboyize
Playboyize

Steampunk

... steam, make it shoot steam.

PurpleCharger
PurpleCharger

@CodeBuns
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jETLCm7k3sU

Lunatick
Lunatick

@whereismyname
Put a gear system on the swords leading edge, just above the guard. Something to catch and automatically snap any other blades that end up running down it.

Poker_Star
Poker_Star

@whereismyname

Add a zweihander.

Emberburn
Emberburn

@whereismyname
Depends on the system and setting
Whatcha doing OP?

Spazyfool
Spazyfool

@whereismyname
A trout

Harmless_Venom
Harmless_Venom

@whereismyname
Two Rapiers.

King_Martha
King_Martha

@PurpleCharger
@Lord_Tryzalot
I'm pretty sure "the original joke" said no such thing, and the idea about it being a distraction was just Skallagrim trying to rationalize it.

Sharpcharm
Sharpcharm

@Methshot
...actually, that could be a plausible weapon in some settings.

Remember that salt is often a symbol of purity for some cultures so in some settings salt can be used to repel ghosts and such.

Meanwhile, pepper is an irritant and getting stabbed by a blade coated with pepper is going to hurt like hell and keep hurting like hell for a while.

Garbage Can Lid
Garbage Can Lid

@whereismyname

Include a barbed spike along the edge, so a successful stab severely hobbles the opponent.

Alternatively, make it a doubled blade that tapers to a very close point. While your engineer probably would pretend it's a shocking weapon, the actual goal is to produce an arc with inlayed carbon to compromise thin armor elements with intense heat, as well as inflict nasty burns.

Carnalpleasure
Carnalpleasure

@Burnblaze
You sheath it. I clearly mentioned the locking reinforced sheath.

@Nude_Bikergirl
Sheathing in the middle of combat is stupid.
..Unless you absolutely need a weapon that would be effective against armour, and its an option you have

And rapiers are not even particularly sharp.
Whut. The last third to quarter of a rapier is sharper than most war swords. They are were the "razor sharp sword" exaggeration comes from.

@Harmless_Venom
See @likme

SomethingNew
SomethingNew

@Ignoramus
As delightful as that is, practically speaking, you're better off just throwing a grenade from your belt or something. Pommels are useful for counterbalance and difficult to detatch. I guess stealth grenading is the idea here, but may as well disuise it as a gaudy belt buckle or jacket button or something if its steam punk.

ZeroReborn
ZeroReborn

@whereismyname
Make it a drill, and have a motor in the hilt to make it spin when engaged.

happy_sad
happy_sad

@ZeroReborn
So dumb.

...but so awesome.

Spazyfool
Spazyfool

@ZeroReborn
Is there anything you can't improve by adding rotation on one of it's axis?

Poker_Star
Poker_Star

@Spazyfool
Canoes

Emberfire
Emberfire

@Poker_Star
HA!

CouchChiller
CouchChiller

@whereismyname
@Soft_member
@takes2long
Canisters of cold compressed gas, most probably nitrogen or carbondioxide, loaded into the hand guard. You either rig a trigger to pull manually or a pressure sensitive apparatus to tell when the blade lands a hit on a solid target, and it releases the gas, jetting the sword forward with extra momentum. It's not like it'd be jet fuel propelled, but it'd turn a bare minimum penetration into a deep one on the spot, or if manually triggered could provide the extra boost to get the jump over the opponent's reflexes to dodge or parry effectively. Only downside is you'd sorta gas yourself like taking a short fire extinguisher blast to the arm, chest, and/or face.

idontknow
idontknow

If I were to make a modern rapier, I'd do two major things.

1. Make the blade a thin tube with a hypodermic needle-like end. Essentially a piece of thin metal tubing sliced at an angle and sharpened to a point.

2. Build the handle in such a way that I can insert a canister of whatever I want and trigger its release via a button on the handle.

This way I can stab someone and then pump a huge blast of compressed air into them. Or compressed chlorine gas.

New_Cliche
New_Cliche

@idontknow
Flourine Tri-Chloride.

ZeroReborn
ZeroReborn

@New_Cliche
I don't want to be on fire user.

Evilember
Evilember

@Emberfire
not piercing THE HEAVENS with your canoe

Boy_vs_Girl
Boy_vs_Girl

@whereismyname
Have you ever played DEAD ISLAND, you should play DEAD ISLAND!

FastChef
FastChef

@whereismyname
How about nothing you massive faggot?

Sometimes a sword can just be a fucking a sword in a steam punk setting.

BunnyJinx
BunnyJinx

@whereismyname
Put a retractable garrote in the hilt. Possibly even make it a removable bobble. Something for when you are too close for thrusting.

PurpleCharger
PurpleCharger

@FastChef
oh hey i found the salty neckbeard. hows it feel to have a tiny penis? using faggot because your insecure?

have fun with that, were all gonna go play with our dual rocket propelled drill swords because we know what fun is

Carnalpleasure
Carnalpleasure

@TalkBomber
What the fuck is End Him Rightly anyway? I know it involves throwing your pommel at the enemy but I don't understand how that's supposed to "end" him, much less rightly.

TurtleCat
TurtleCat

@Carnalpleasure
A German dueling manual had a page that said something along the lines of "if you wish to end your opponent rightly, unscrew your pommel and throw it swiftly at him." I've seen it theorized that it was a way to discourage people from just reading the book without taking the accompanying class, where it would be explained as bullshit, or a way of surprising your opponent, or as a rules as written way of being able to keep all of your weapons in a judicial duel, where it's typically required that both combatants throw (a weapon) at each other, then close to melee range. This is why you see a lot of references to thrown swords in fencing manuals; less experienced fighters would generally prefer to throw the sword and keep the longer reach of the spear. If you were to throw just the (fake) pommel, you could use the spear and still keep the sword as a backup.

Raving_Cute
Raving_Cute

Anyone got any other ideas for weapon enhancements? I'm currently writing an RPG where weapon enhancements are a key part of melee combat and I need some ideas.
I personally don't care what weapons they're for, and since it's a sci-fi setting how they work doesn't need to make sense either.

Evilember
Evilember

@whereismyname
A pressurized gas canister in the hilt can violently expel gas through small ports in the blade. When you stab a target, you can release the gas, causing embolisms or even meatsplosions.

eGremlin
eGremlin

@CouchChiller
That is absolutely stolen. My players aren't going to like the fuckface with the fire extinguisher sword, not at all.

SniperWish
SniperWish

@DeathDog
Any weapon that can change damage types is pretty much worth taking due to sheer utilitarian value. Maybe I'm an obsessive powergamer, but I try to always have one of each type of damage on a character. This lets you bundle it all up into one weapon.

SniperWish
SniperWish

@CouchChiller
@Evilember
trying to push the sword forward with compressed gas.
You're doing it wrong. Fashion the rapier blade into a giant needle and send the gas into the person that you stab for massive internal trauma. It's basically a giant wasp knife.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BMvpmGb0Fcs

VisualMaster
VisualMaster

@SniperWish
Meant to say that @Evilember
had the right idea.

idontknow
idontknow

@Harmless_Venom
@happy_sad
@Evilember
@Flameblow
@BlogWobbles
@RumChicken
@King_Martha
@Garbage Can Lid
@Fuzzy_Logic
@Playboyize
@ZeroReborn
@Poker_Star
@haveahappyday

Alright, these are some of the most brilliant minds here yes even@Poker_Star

I challenge you... Make this rapier FOR A THIEF

New_Cliche
New_Cliche

@Poker_Star
Wrong

Poker_Star
Poker_Star

@New_Cliche
The hand guard contains a small chemical charge that creates a bright flash when ignited.

pulling a trigger on the hilt hits a percusion cap that ignites the charge, allowing you to blind your opponent so you can make a quick getaway.

WebTool
WebTool

@idontknow
Make this rapier FOR A THIEF
Telescoping poison coated rapier with a set of lockpicking tools hidden in a booby trapped pommel.
Triggering the booby trap will cause the sword to explode with enough force to severe a hand and spray the idiot with poison shrapnel.

New_Cliche
New_Cliche

@idontknow
A button is on the handle that when pressed causes a robotic hand stretch out from inside of the hand guard and grab onto something before pulling back into the hand guard.

likme
likme

@King_Martha
I said the original joke was a distraction.

TreeEater
TreeEater

@idontknow
Blade fires off the hilt with enough force to pierce wood, has serrated segments to help hold it in place and trails a small steel cable after it. Grappling hook/rope arrow in a sword.

I guess you could also just shoot-stab someone with it if your character is the kind of boring person who wouldn't shoot it into the rafters and swing kick their enemy in the face.

PurpleCharger
PurpleCharger

@Carnalpleasure
I was actually looking at @haveahappyday
not @DeathDog
but accidentally didn't make it clear which post I was referring to. Considered that reinforce locking sheaths are a thing, I'll assume @Carnalpleasure
works the same way. But I'll probably believe someone if they tell me otherwise.

BunnyJinx
BunnyJinx

@TreeEater
guess you could also just shoot-stab someone with it if your character is the kind of boring person who wouldn't shoot it into the rafters and swing kick their enemy in the face.

Not putting a large chemical battery on the side and making it a big ass taser

Get_a_load_of_this_guy.jpeg

Fuzzy_Logic
Fuzzy_Logic

@PurpleCharger
God I'm an idiot. The last link is supposed to go to @haveahappyday

Harmless_Venom
Harmless_Venom

High-powern solenoid on the sheath that heats the blade when you draw it.

New_Cliche
New_Cliche

@whereismyname
Personally I think the idea of explosive blades that get left in the wound are great.

Have a sheathe filled with replacements for ease of reloading.

Perhaps the sword is cored with a low yield explosive that is detonated via electric charge? As you withdraw the grip it sparks and sets the ignition process.

TreeEater
TreeEater

@Sharpcharm
Be better if you could eject the pepper-salt into their eyes.

LuckyDusty
LuckyDusty

@idontknow
Have you considered a grappling hook in the hilt, a retractable blade with a crossbow at the hilt, triple threat

eGremlin
eGremlin

@LuckyDusty
Had a similar idea but was more tarded:
An integrated taser that uses some sort of 'ultra-durable, metallic filament' so as to be conductive and could be used to reel in foes like you're fucking Scorpion.

idontknow
idontknow

@idontknow
I feel like a thief would want something a little less complex than all these robo-arm telescoping laser rapiers that have been suggested.

Maybe just a shorter thicker-bladed rapier with a less flashy low-profile hilt so it catches on clothes less, maybe a little compartment in the pommel for an emergency lock pick

Poker_Star
Poker_Star

@idontknow
Pommel filled with sleeping gas to knock out guards

Evilember
Evilember

@Poker_Star
Why attempt to rely on gas when you could just knock them out?
Bashing em in the head with the pommel would do, as would just choking them out, both are much more reliable.

Methnerd
Methnerd

@Evil_kitten

Musket rest à la @VisualMaster

Crazy_Nice
Crazy_Nice

@Evilember
Casually "knocking people out" is only a thing in fictional media, user. In real life, a person who loses consciousness from concussive impact to the head for more than a few seconds is likely going to die.

Soft_member
Soft_member

@idontknow
shorter thicker-bladed rapier with a less flashy low-profile hilt

So.... Not a rapier then? You just described a completely different weapon.

You're looking for a hanger, or sidesword.

TalkBomber
TalkBomber

@Harmless_Venom
Would that make the blade too soft?

Soft_member
Soft_member

@whereismyname
ctrl+f "system"
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Stop pretending this is about traditional games or describe the system and setting in more depth.

PackManBrainlure
PackManBrainlure

@idontknow
The "Hand of Glory" (pic related) is a classic thief's implement; ignoring what it's made of, it's intended to be a light source that no one (but the thief holding it) can see.

Let's exploit this. Take a rapier, and integrate this into it. Make the guard look like an outstretched hand, and have a flaming blade extend from it; then, use the magic of the hand to render both the blade and its fire invisible to anyone but the thief.

Now imagine a guard stumbling across this thief, in a darkened room. They see his hand extended, and he thrusts it towards them. Mild cause for concern - until the burning pain of the blade proves its existence at the guard's expense. The guard dies, and the thief carries on, pulling the body out of the way of casual discovery; the burning wound prevents blood spillage. Ta-da! A thief's blade! (More enchantments would enable the concealment of the hand, allowing it to look like a normal blade when in public)

@Soft_member
Fluff doesn't need crunch; let the GMs create their own. Fuck off.

CodeBuns
CodeBuns

@PackManBrainlure
System and setting helps inform what fluff fits well with what's already going on in the game. Most of the time, fluff that doesn't fit the game well mechanically and thematically isn't all that great.

Evilember
Evilember

@idontknow
Make it shorter.

BlogWobbles
BlogWobbles

@CodeBuns
Maybe, but theme can be varied and have unexpected elements; e.g. the giant spider boss in Demon Souls, when most of the others were Boletarian legends. And themes can be wider than the players assume. (Middle-age era with magic? GM in a discontent mood? Players find themselves hunting a Bonnacon for the local fief lord, because it's been despoiling the peasants' fields with its presence.)

And refluffing a central idea can be pretty easy.

Lord_Tryzalot
Lord_Tryzalot

@whereismyname
Steampunk, not using a steamgun or flamethrower attached to it.

farquit
farquit

@Soft_member
System: you're
Setting: a faggot

BlogWobbles
BlogWobbles

@whereismyname
Remember the threaded cane from bloodborne? Try that.
standard close range rapier becomes mid range pseudo whip to attack Melee enemies before they can get into range.

Gigastrength
Gigastrength

@BlogWobbles
I like best when the conceptual and mechanical work together in a less abstract way, but if simply fluffing a +1 is what you're looking for that's fine. Helps to state that clearly in the OP, though.

lostmypassword
lostmypassword

@Gigastrength
Not OP, but I see your reasoning.

likme
likme

@idontknow
make it foldable/telescopable so it takes up less space and can be hidden easily, add a shock component for stunning....

make the blade out of a material that behaves like cloth normally but stiffens into a steel like state when a charge runs through it...

make it an over sized key or lock pick

Booteefool
Booteefool

@Soft_member
@happy_sad

When you lunge forward in a stab, a button on the basket-hilt can be depressed, this turns on Lord Wallingtons Invigorating Forward Engagers or WIFE for short.

WebTool
WebTool

@Booteefool
turns on Lord Wallingtons Invigorating Forward Engagers or WIFE for short.

Sir_Gallonhead
Sir_Gallonhead

@whereismyname
Add a scope

Illusionz
Illusionz

@whereismyname
@idontknow

A flashing light, directed towards whatever the blade points at. Push button, dazzle villain, shank. It's a bit underhanded, but for a good cause.

Doubles as secondary light source when exploring ancient ruins! Although you blind yourself.

Emberburn
Emberburn

This thread is insufficient! It needs to be bumped for the weaponsmiths!

Dreamworx
Dreamworx

@whereismyname
http://myarmoury.com/feature_spot_combo.html

StonedTime
StonedTime

@Evilember
Bashing em in the head with the pommel would do, as would just choking them out, both are much more reliable.
Literally none of this is true.

Sharpcharm
Sharpcharm

Add an integrated firework launcher - I assume you have guns and cannons in this setting. So integrate a single shot firework launcherthat utilizes a flintlock mechanism to ignite the propellants. That way you have a pistol in your sword, that shoots explosive bullets basically

bump for weaponsmiths

Evilember
Evilember

@Gigastrength
This. In my mind the coolest weapon mods actually do something; they change combat in some way and so benefit from the specific mechanics of a game system beyond "+Hit" or "+ Damage".

Supergrass
Supergrass

Doesn't aid in combat at all but a gyroscope mechanism in the pommel is a cool aesthetic.

For combat you could fashion a steampunk style crossguard that rotates in to catch the blade when you parry in order to disarm opponenets

Stark_Naked
Stark_Naked

@Evilember
Some combat systems don't even have those generic attributes. I don't see how system doesn't matter for weapon fluff unless you are flogging the "all pnprpgs are dnd" meme.

Evilember
Evilember

@BlogWobbles
those examples
There's a difference between playing off of what's already going on and slavishly limiting yourself to a very limited set of possibilities based on what has already been done. Fighting giant or mythological monsters isn't really out of place in either of those settings, either.

Being aware of what is going on around you just makes sense if you want to craft something amazing on purpose.

whereismyname
whereismyname

@Evil_kitten
YO DAWG

StonedTime
StonedTime

roll+2d6

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