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What's your favorite non-combat archetype?

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Scholars. But not scholars that are too busy and get pissed when you try and talk to them. Laid back ones, that'll have tea with you while you shoot the shit on science/philosophy/religion/magic.

Any resources homebrew or official if I want to do a monster campaign?

Volo's has some not very impressive stats for playing as most of the go to humanoid monsters.

Volo's guide to Monsters has some monster races for creating PCs.

What are some of the best Druid spells upto 6th level, I've picked Land Druid and realising it's so much weaker than moon I'm looking to squeeze a bit of extra value and want to make sure I've not overlooked some golden value spells or ones with good usage.

Heat Metal is great for fucking over anything wearing metal armour. If you want your gm to tell you to fuck off you can ask about casting Polymorph to turn into a half-dragon giant ape.

Beyond flavour text, how can I go about differentiating 53 deities with 5e's handful of domains? Is there still any reason for deities to have favoured weapons? Have there been any domains introduced in UA's that I may have missed?

Listen up. discord.gg/ewSen23 This is the new official discord of 5eg. The other one is run by a pussy who lets cancer fester and didn't even have any discussion of D&D. :^)

Don't really see any non-flavour way of differentiating that many gods. Why do you have so many? For the weapons, again only really a flavour thing.

The butthurt is fucking real

Want to put players through a series of tests to win MacGuffin. 6 tests, one each on STR, CON, DEX, INT, WIS & CHA. Got the basic ideas for the first 3, and CHA. What are some good tests of INT and WIS? Preferably that can be confined to a room.

>differentiating 53 deities
How do you differentiate them right now?

WHEN'S THRI-KREEN?

Riddles seem like the obvious choice for Wisdom. How to go about that depends on whether your group likes actually solving riddles themselves or not.

No, the better discord is fucking real. And you probably shouldn't be a part of it anyways.

Crawford and Mearls have both stated that as a template, Half-Dragon creatures do not have existing statblocks, and as such are not an option that's in the players' hands.

>53 deities
Jesus, I thought my 21 was hard to manage, and 2 of those are dead with 6 of them using homebrew domains, and 2 of them using a UA domain.

>"official" /5eg/ discord
Doesn't matter who is running it, it's faggotry all the same, and doesn't belong in the OP.

Fair enough, was intended as a tongue in cheek reply anyway.

Fair enough, user. Just tired of seeing half-dragon cheese paraded around as a legitimate answer when it's just as autistic as Bardic Horsecasting. And trust me, I know autism when I see it.

Check out We Be Goblins! I gave it a look over for ideas of a similar monster campaign I want to run. Its PF, but it'd be easy to convert it for 5e.

You're just throwing a tantrum because you weren't in charge and I am enjoying every minute of your sad meltdown

this is a good idea desu, dont be scared to use supplements from other games/editions, its easy to just use the story structure and change up the encounters to fit 5e

Oh yeah, your 15 person discord is really official, all right

15 people who actually play D&D 5e is better than 400 furry porn posting anime fags any day

The creator of the new Discord loves furry porn, though.

Veeky Forums, some friends and I decided to start up a game of this.

So far we've got a Rogue, a Druid, and a Fighter. Two more slots left. What do we need?

Ranged blaster or something.

A charisma based class and a wizard.

As if Jeb isn't the biggest furry porn poster out there

>53 deities

Even the polytheists think you've gone too far, m8.

With the disclaimer that I don't advocate anyone should ever claim polymorphing into half-dragons works, I can't actually find any tweets by either of them on the subject.

Fun characters.

That being said, somebody with decent charisma and a bow would cover the rest of your bases in one fine package.

Cleric and Wizard

WIZARD

Anything.

Get a paladin for Charisma and a Wizard, because the fucking game runs around wizards unfortunately.

Assuming the STR, DEX and CON ones involve making skill checks, make some sort of riddle that involves one of the INT skill checks to be able solve. Something easy, but a character has to recall the correct lore/god/nature or investigate to find all of the puzzle pieces.

For all the people screaming wizard...
Will a Sorcerer work instead?

>That being said, somebody with decent charisma and a bow would cover the rest of your bases in one fine package.
So, like a Bard Bowman?

How do you justify multiclassing personally, either as a DM or player?
I mean there should be an organic story reason sure but the DM's going to say right-o.

No, you need someone to do INT checks for you, and wizard is the only real INT character

Don't start this discussion. Please for the love of god.

No. Wizards can replace sorcerers. Sorcerers cannot replace wizards.

It's too late.

This is why though. And ritual casting.

Not if he's a fucking Int 8 retard.

No, get a wizard

Ignore everything you read in these threads. Sorcerer's are fun characters that aren't that bad.

A wizard isn't needed to win at a game of imagination.

Yes

The Meta is a myth, party comp is very malleable, wizards are not necessary

Training by degrees, practicing things. Like your bard has been sitting there with a set of thieves' tools trying to pick his first set of tumbler locks or trying to disarm a simple wire trap without setting it off.

Sprinkle in the little bit of flavor and you'll have a perfect justification for multi-classing.

Make a warlock, bitch

Yeah, that'd work just fine.

People can screeee about Wizards being best (and they're not wrong) buuut
They're not necessary

It's hard to fuck up in 5th edition. And beyond that, a decent DM should be able to handle a party that covers all abilities.

Am I that guy, Veeky Forums? Here's the story
>In some caverns close to the surface, bordering on the underdark
>Our group, Me, the warlock, fiend pact of the tome, A dwarf fighter, subclassed as gunslinger, a halfling monk, Way of the Four Elements, and a half-elf werewelf barbarian, subclassed as Path of the berserker.
>Some backstory, earlier in the campaign our Werewelf (Werewolf elf) acquired a headband that had the ghost of an elf trapped in it. He could use psychic powers and also give her an enhanced form for battle. Over the course of the campaign they spoke to each other a lot and became friends.
>Having travelled a day nonstop through a direwolf infested forest to get to the entrance (two days for the Barbarian, who had stayed up all night the day before) when we got to the Underdark we were all exhausted.
>We then fought our way through several caverns full of spiders and killed some drow scouts.
>During this time our Barbarian stepped directly off of a cliff because she couldn't see in the darkness, falling roughly 100 feet and taking all but 3 of her hp in damage
>After following her down with a climbing kit we eventually got to a ledge that lead down to a shore next to a river.
>I used misty step to get down because fuck climbing desu.
>Barbarian fell down after fumbling an athletics roll, landed face first in bat guano.
>Halfling acrobaticed his way down the ledge
>Dorf manmoded that shit and leaped all the way for the river that was ahead of us.
>Succeeded, landed in, immediately was wracked with psychic power, trying to convince him there was a god in the river, succeeds on his wisdom save though, so he's all peachy.
>Pulls himself out, tells us about the psychic power.
>I check by dipping a finger into the river
>Yep he's right
>Pass my check, decide to see if I need to make a test every time, dip my finger in again
>Nope, it's fine.
>Pull finger out.
>Finger is gone.
>Something with many teeth took it.
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Here's the plan I think

Hit level 6 as a Lore Bard, take fireball/lightning bolt for blowing shit up

Then multi-class into fighter until at least level 5 as a battle master gaining Breastplate + Defense to up my AC, and gain Parry, Riposte, and Lunging Attack. That way I also have extra attack as well

is that going to be about the best way to get a more all-round bard?

Or should I have just started as a valor bard? Wouldn't get those maneuvers though

no one is saying wizard are best, just that the party EXTREMELY lacks intelligence based characters and a wizard would cover that niche nicely.

Forgotten Realms 5e (a la SCAG) has 99 gods, for what it's worth. Question doesn't quite scan still but that criticism of it isn't too effective

Yeah you can pick up a sorcerer. There isn't anything wrong with it. Technically you can do whatever you want. You can run a party of all rouges, or a party without a single martial, or a party of paladins or clerics. You can play whatever you want, you don't have to lock yourself into certain formulas.

But, and this is the but, if you do then it isn't optimal. You asked what you should get, and this lead me to believe you were looking for optimal party make up. In an optimal party yes, you do want a wizard, because it is mechanically superior and it covers int. You can do whatever you want, but there are some things that are better than others. You could have a different character with a high dex and the right skills do the job of a rogue. Have them sneak and disarm traps and what not, and they could do it. I've seen some amazing things done with a high dex barb who made good use of his danger sense in dungeons when the party had no rogue, but even so a rogue could do it better and that's just the way it is.

So some people will scream that you need a wizard, and if you wanted to be absolutly optimal yes you should grab one, but the game is about having fun, not picking the best possible thing. So take a sorcerer, and have fun.

Yes. The board is scum. The even better answer is that it doesn't fucking matter what you play at all, it will be fine in 5e. Play what you find fun.

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>After several minutes of bleeding, jumping around and screaming profanities, fingerstump is bandaged up.
>Resolve to get finger back.
>Ask psychic headband for help in identifying the creature that took it, he's several centuries old, surely he would know.
>He didn't see it and there's a haze over the river.
>He reaches out with his mind, finds the creature and-
>Is immediately consumed by his love for his new god.
>Well fuck.
>Tells us only that we have no hope of beating the creature, and that we should all go into the water. youtube.com/watch?v=yyw0xeOwVd0
>Fuck that
>As if to punctuate his point, a tentacle reaches out of the water and slaps the dwarf in the face.
>It only looked like a light pat
>Sends the dwarf flying towards the cliff, he crunches into the stone, then peels out, leaving a distinct dwarf shaped imprint in it
>We run, parallel to the river, but we still run, hoping to run faster than it can swim.
>All the while our barbarian's headband is alternating between screaming blasphemous obscenities at us and pleading for us to step into the water
>After peeling off from the river, we find a stone tablet.
>In dwarven, on the tablet, the words "Illithid" and "Drow" are printed, with direction arrows.
>Illithid
>I roll to see if I know what those are.
>Indeed I do.
>Absolutely fucking not.
>Turn and sprint the other way, back towards the tentacle beast we have affectionately named Mr. Teeth
>The rest of the group follow, trusting my instinct and fearing what could drive me to run back towards Mr. Teeth
>In truth I just didn't want to deal with more tentacley bullshit.
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Reminder that optimal party comps are cancer.

You dont make a well rounded party to be "optimal" (well some people do, but theyre cancer)

you do it so ensure everyone is good at different stuff, which gives different people the spotlight and ensures they dont step on each other's toes.

Warlock/Fighter or Warlock Paladin? I keep seeing people say Bladelock with Fighter is better, but by going Bladelock with Paladin your Smite because reusable after a short rest and you're constantly doing it at the highest damage. Paladin seems like the much better choice.

you go 1 fighter / x bladelock so that you only have to spend ONE non-warlock level, getting you to thirsting blade and blooddrinker faster

pally-lock is a legit build though, and theres a lot of ways to build it, you can go 2 pally > 3 lock > rest pally, or you can go 2 pally > X lock

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So I'm aware of the Moon Druid's power spikes at early levels, but I've heard that they fall off very quickly

Seeing as I've no experience with Druids at my table I can't really contribute too much on the matter, but is there a way to keep Moon Druid viable at higher levels or are they fine as is?

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no thanks bruv
i prefer presidents who don't threaten martial law and the abolishment of the first amendment

Fuck off. You just sound pathetic.

Well Rounded =/= Optimal.

A sorcerer is a fine replacement for a wizard in a well rounded party, but terrible for an Optimal one.

Optimal parties are cancer

But it's always take either Paladin or Fighter first?

Honestly, why not go to 5 Paladin? You get good stuff at level 5 Paladin.
>Extra Attack (important)
>2nd Level Paladin slots
>Oath Spells

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>Having chosen to take our chances with Mr. Teeth, at this point another day has passed in game, as such we are all on two points of exhaustion, aside from our Barbarian, who is on three.
>Distinctly slower this time, and much more tensely, watching the water the whole time, we edge our way back to the safety of the ledge, where we have resolved to take a long rest no matter what, or we'll die down here anyway.
>Mr. Teeth decided not to show up this time.
>We found the ledge, I, having one spell slot left, use it to misty step back up the ledge.
>Elation on our faces, we first convince the Barbarian to use the last of her strength to climb.
>After she is hauled over the ledge into the cubbyhole, Mr. Teeth decides now is the time to show up.
>Slams a tentacle directly down on top of the Halfling
>This one looked quite vicious, I can only imagine how it felt.
>Halfling knocked unconscious, on death saves.
>Dwarf facing tentacle and with a half-dead halfling at his feet, knowing neither of us at the top of the ledge could possibly come down to help then get back up again without dying, throws the halfling at me
>Doesn't throw hard enough
>Halfling's face crunches into the ledge, then his body drops on top of a spiky rock, takes two immediate death saving throw failures.
>I cast my Eldritch blasts, empowered by my eldritch invocations, I hit all three, and blast the creature back 30 feet.
>Dwarf tries one last time to throw the halfling, succeeds this time
>I catch the Halfling, our Barbarian had a healer's kit ready, and stabilised the Halfling.
>Dorf uses his titanic effort to heave himself up the rockface, having gotten an athletics check roll of 19+7 in mods, literally gouging handfuls of the stone out as he went.
>Mr. Teeth retreats underwater, denied his prey.
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Stop trying to make "fetch" happen, Jeb

Hah, be that way losers. This 5eg discord is the best 5eg discord. I have studies to prove it! We've already gotten 20 people, and we're just getting started! I'm signing executive orders to make D&D great again.

>20 people
Fucking stop the presses, everybody watch out! This discord has some serious power!

That's some real alternative facts there, shitstain.

new link for second discord?

Delete all links to Discord off of the op. We don't want your shitshows.

Look, you guys don't get it. I get it. That's all that matters. So join the discord if you love talking about dungeons and dragons.

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>We all eat our rations quickly for dinner, then three of us settle in for a long rest, the barbarian falls asleep first, then the Halfling. As i'm getting to sleep while the dwarf takes first watch, his musket kept locked firmly on the river, his ears open for any noise, we suddenly both hear the headband speak.
>It's speaking only to us, because the barbarian and the halfling are firmly asleep.
>It tells us of the doom his master brings.
>It tells us of how we are trapped in the cubbyhole now, the creatures in the darkness all around watching us sleep.
>It tells us of how we'll die down here and nobody on the surface will remember us.
>It asks us politely to go into the water
>We refuse
>He begins to scream.
>He does not stop.
>The scream has started to cause our ears to bleed.
>Carefully, quietly, I take the headband out of our Barbarian's backpack, and throw it out of the cubbyhole, onto the shore below.
>The screaming stops, we relax
>All of a sudden, from the water, Mr. Teeth surfaces, and drags himself onto the shore
>Inky black, purple skin, melted like loose flesh floating in water, suddenly deprived of the floating element.
>Thousands upon thousands of teeth, arrayed in rows.
>No eyes, only a vast maw, and two slits for a nose
>It hauls itself on two tree trunk sized arms out of the water, it's tentacles trailing behind it.
>It snuffles the air around itself
>Me and the dwarf realising that now that the creature is out of the water, we will die if It notices us.
>We make our peace and stare death in the face, poised to strike in the face of the abberation, even if it is a vain effort.
>Suddenly the creature drops low, like a dog sniffing the ground, and snuffles a bit more.
>He stops when he finds the headband.
>He opens his maw impossibly wide, and devours the headband, the sand it was sitting on, the rock underneath the sand, and a sizeable portion of the foundation of the rockwall we were sitting in.
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How about you talk about D&D in this thread like a non-retard.

Hey, who's your friend? We've got Marisa, Cowjuice, Lorez, Plutia, Jondon. He's underage and we have them, you losers can't have him! We're probably the best 5eg there is.

yeah for the save and armor profs

this guys definitely pretending to be retarded to keep people off the new 5eg

Hahaha! You can think that, but we've gained four people from this alone. How's it feel to be wrong and a loser?

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>As he swallows, a psychic scream goes up, the agonising swansong of the ghost trapped in the headband.
>It wakes up our party members
>They stare horrified at the creature, as it itself lets out a wretched scream.
>Then it suddenly dissappears, darting under the water with a speed much greater than it displayed before.
>Having gone, our barbarian notices the absence of what had been a constant comforting presence for the last few months.
>We tell her what happened.
>She buries an axe in my chest.
>I cast Flesh to Stone.
>As our halfling and dwarf restrain her, I get pretty pissed myself, and continue to cast the spell.
>She fails, exhausted as she still is, and is turned into stone.
>I pull the axe out of my chest, and bandage my wounds.
>The halfling and the dwarf bed down for a long rest, while I take watch.
>I look into her stone eyes, and contemplate our situation.
>We are exhausted, half dead, sleeping next to an eldritch abomination, who is now amped up by eating the ghost of a centuries old elf psion, while our barbarian is a statue.
>Morning comes. We continue to sleep in the cubbyhole. It seems none of the creatures of the underdark threaten us as long as Mr. Teeth is nearby.
>Wonder what the fuck to do.
We found out afterwards that Mr. Teeth was a challenge rating 12
Is there any way that could've gone differently? Could we have fought it? How do you remove permanent petrification from someone?

Fucking MOAR.

Only problem with that is that you won't be able to get War Caster until fourth level at which point wouldn't you rather have the ASI?

What's an expression similar to "the clock is ticking", but using an hourglass as the metaphor? English is not my native language, so I'm stumped here.

Sands of time are running out.

What was Mr Teeth?
Was your DM going for a horror game?
The way you described your game sounds alternately frustrating but awesome.

He still hasn't told us what Mr. Teeth is, as we haven't yet successfully identified him, asked someone who would know, or gotten away.
He was not going for a horror game, though it was certainly tense, and I feel my storytelling abilities may have contributed it.
And it's pretty awesome, though It feels like the part of the movie where the hero is at his lowest point, except there's three of us and our usual moral compass is now a statue.

So I've seen several posters mention a Fighter Subclass I'm not finding anywhere in the 5eg Treasure Trove. What is the gunslinger subclass?

It's a homebrew by Matthew Mercer

Homebrewed subclass for Fighter. Here: dropbox.com/s/82o72v47ddc8lzz/Gunslinger 5E.docx?dl=0

odd, was meant for

>How do you remove permanent petrification from someone?
Greater Restoration.

This.

Well. We have a Monk, a Dorf with guns, and a Warlock, and we're trapped in the underdark. How would one come by greater restoration, in these circumstances.

When the priest comes to read me the last rights,

You don't.