So Veeky Forums, did you invested in anything during this format?
It flopped or did you gained some profit?
Kayden Robinson
>Kalitas and Grim Flayer down 34% >After I got a playset of flayers
Eli Taylor
>Kalitas is down to $13 dollar
Why the fuck didn't I sell mine back when they were worth $40?!
Brayden Hughes
cause you're bad at speculation or were using them?
Blake Reed
You're not the only one user, I got my playset for $10 a pop, then during their peak I was using them, afterwards NOBODY wanted them because the meta was fucked with cats, and now nobody wants them again because of rotation and value went down.
I got a Gideon playset and nobody wants them either because Mardu flopped.
Jason Jackson
>mfw I sold my set of gideon and 3 kalitas to finance my edh deck
I feel for you though user
Hudson Parker
I mean I got my value back thanks to the tournaments I won using them, this season has been pretty good for me and right now Im solid on GB Energy, but it sucks to be stuck with them since they aren't very good in modern.
Jason Peterson
>yfw Marvel lost to a deck playing mainly AKH cards WoTC getting their heads out of their asses finally
Connor Perez
There isn't a face on that image
Dominic Reyes
Does anyone have any good White or White/Red human deck lists? I've made one for game day and would like to compare.
Joseph Hall
i have a question
if you cast walking ballista with atherworks marvel's energy ability does it come in as a 1/1 or a 0/0 unless you tap it afterwards?
Luis Gonzalez
it comes in as a 0/0 and dies immediately
Angel Price
oh ok, i'll remember not to do that then
Elijah Morgan
So what are the current u/r decks? Preferably something with Enigma Drake
Ian Hall
Theres a UR Control deck thats decent. The manabase and Torrential Gearhulks are expensive though.
Jeremiah Morgan
I already have the gearhulks. Hit me my friend.
Connor Hernandez
Check mtggoldfish standard metagame, should be the 4th deck, titled UR Control, basically Censor, Negate, Disallow, Magma Spray
Aiden Young
UR Control, and there's a janky Temur Cycle deck that uses Enigma Drake, the serpent thing, and I think Drake Haven as payoff cards
Lincoln Howard
Okay, how about a G/R/??? deck using manadorks to ramp and champion of rhonas + rhonas monument to bring in some of the less used gearhulks (verduous, combustible and noxious spring to mind; maybe side in cataclysmic as a turn 4 board clear against tokens or w/e); glorybringer is also a good one in this deck, except you can't attack from the exert pull in. also include the man himself rhonas, the 1bg legendary that lets you cast your top card when you cast your first spell, and viser of the menagerie. Maybe get that old school jund feel with some black exile effects or something I dunno.
Ayden Jenkins
as an extra wincon/FUN FACTOR maybe include indomitable creativity to blow up your mana dorks on like turn 7-8 if it goes that late and hope to pull some more big guys.
probably also the snakecat that can't be countered.
Cooper Gray
>play mono white white weenie >can't beat whirler virtuoso
life is suffering
Jackson Perez
I don't know about decent but I have a fun UR Drake Haven deck sleeved up.
Has anyone tried brewing with Combustible Gearhulk? It works well with aftermath cards, and while it's probably not good enough I think it could be a nice T2 deck.
Charles Miller
>giving your opponent a choice No sir I don't like it.
Hunter Martin
I know the red Gearhulk is shit. I just want to see a somewhat playable red deck.
Mesoamerican, so probably lots of sacrifice shit, maybe some conquistadors too along with the savages
Jaxson Cruz
Can't wait for the pillarman memes
Aaron Torres
Egyptian block is not enough?
Mason Hernandez
Pillarmen aren't egyptian you tard.
Chase Kelly
Gonna be playing BR Madness Burn
So what if its not a tier 1,2,3,4,etc deck, I'll just try to win with jank if I have to.
Zachary Kelly
bump
Cooper Bennett
Dominaria.
Michael Kelly
I've had it in my Mardu Gearhulks deck, it's fine in there because I rarely care about the cards going to my hand and there is a real risk of them taking 10-18 damage
Tyler Martin
Bought two Avacyns to get back into standard after not playing since Kaladesh released and origins rotated out, leaving my Humans deck fucked six ways sideways.
Built this for Game Day tomorrow, anybody wanna comment on it?
Gavin Wright
Hey buddy, this one's mine Give it a gander, The only non humans are Avacyn, Glorybringer and Oketra.
Robert Gutierrez
>tfw you were brewing some janky Approach of the Second Sun Marvel shitfest >tfw you have some success and get excited because Marvel was cheap as shit and could actually make the deck >tfw playsets are 40 bucks now
it hurts to be poor
Christian Clark
>playsets are 40$
Try needing a playset of Gideon to have a competitive Humans deck. 100$ for 4 cards that rotate in 5 months.
Jason Gomez
why not buy them when they were cheap? could have easily gotten them for $16 but you held off lmao
Carter Campbell
I was still testing. When I decided that they were actually a good choice, it was the friday of the PT.
Hunter Ramirez
"hm should I pick up these marvels now? they're only $4 a piece! Nah I'll wait a few weeks until right before PT weekend after people immediately remembered that marvel was one of the strongest decks before cat combo showed up and everyone starts buying them up"
if you had ANY inkling that you wanted to play marvel then you should have bought them up, the card is busted and will be around for another year you had nothing to lose
Dominic Perry
What do you side against marvel if you're B/W? Anguished unmaking and what else?
Nathaniel Peterson
yeah youre right. I fucked up.
Josiah Green
f could mean feel
Joseph Baker
That 3 drop exile enchantment cycle spell. That's what i'm running in W/R.
Robert Young
Shit, tomorrow is game day?
How much a RG deck without any amonkhet cards is going to get fucked
Jonathan Nelson
Is there any way in standard to be able to reliably cast Sorceries at instant speed? I have a silly deck that could use it.
Connor Nelson
But it doesn't when it's in "mfw" or "yfw" unlike when using "tfw"
cum on step it up
Cameron Kelly
Brain in a Jar allows you to do this, Torrential Gearhulk also does if it is an aftermath card with an instant attached to it some where, any cards with madness on them
Dominic White
Not quite what I'm looking for. Wouldn't get the converge from Bring to Light. Ah well, thanks.
Ian Howard
Has anyone been keeping an eye on mtgo meta game? Mono black zombies has almost completely fallen off while UR control has been on the rise. Also a new version of UW flash has been making waves
I am trying to figure out what to play for game day and I am sitting on
UR control MonoB zombies WB zombies GB energy UW flash
I gotta pick one
Nathan Jackson
Build Simic Emerge and make it work where I couldn't.
Alternatively, UW Flash.
Tyler Gonzalez
>Simic Emerge >Not Simic Converge
Step it up, senpai
Nicholas Collins
Hi all, noob to magic here, first set with amonkhet and planning on going to my first standard event tomorrow with the trueheart promo, and was wondering if I could get some help ironing out my deck, I have been trading around and have been trying to make a W/G Exert deck, any help would be greatly appreciated and just to be clear, I only have amonkhet set cards atm. List:
Sideboard is where i really need help i feel x2 oketra monument 3 -possibility? x2 trial of solidarity 2/W- more vigilance :/ x1 ahn crop champ 2/W/G- in case? x1 hooded brawler- in case 3 drops are too low x2 compulsory rest 1/W - removal even with enemy life gain :/ x2 Djeru's resolve W - untap and indestructible?? x2 harvest season 2/G - free land, not sure how that works with all the vigilance and untap I have to make it useful or not? x3 unknown: stinging shot G - for flyers? sixth sense G - card draw? Impeccable timing 1/W - combat trick?
Not sure if I should go back to 10/10/1 lands If i need more removal in deck, if rhonas monument is worth the niche boost or not. Any help is appreciated ~Thanks
Christian Morales
You need at least 2 more lands, as you have no way to tutor or fetch up any normally Get pic related, take out Champion of Rhonas, as fun as free summons sounds, it's not worth it if you don't cheat in stuff that gets you miles ahead.
Lucas Parker
One big tip before anything else, we know the cards here and don't really need descriptions for each one, just a decklist. It actually makes it harder to read, and makes one wish to not finish looking at it.
Justin Jones
Oh hey! Don't mind me, i just heard you didn't get a removal on your opening hand.
Jaxon Ross
First FNM in a couple years. Got fourth place with a wonky GB -1/-1 counters deck. Deck kind of falls apart against decks that don't play many creatures it seems (Until game 2) Worked amazingly well in those matchups after sideboarding in artifact hate and/or serpopard though.
Colton Stewart
I missed FNM because the only shop in a 50 mile radius had no parking.
Jordan Kelly
Just came back from FNM after playing Jeskai equipment for the first time. List:
I was previously on Boros, but I picked up the blue lands and some other cards like Gideon in preparation for Game Day. I went 2-1, beating RG Gods and Zombies while losing to GB Energy. All of my matches went to 3 games, and many of the games were really close. Hopefully I can win Game Day with the deck.
If anyone's interested in the deck, I wrote a giant wall of text about it on the TappedOut page.
Anthony Murphy
oooookay 4chun i need HELP basically i want to win game day with mardu or at least have a damn good chance at winning so, i need criticism and help making my deck fucking great, but i dont quite like the look of the net deck mardu, and i dont have a fuckton of cards. so here's the list, any and all help is appreciated, thanks.
// 9 Sorcery SB: 3 Transgress the Mind SB: 1 Fumigate SB: 2 By Force SB: 2 Declaration in Stone SB: 1 Dispossess
James Ward
Is 4 colorless lands in a 22 land, 2 color deck too many? Or should I be fine?
Carter Jenkins
Disposses and Trangress the Mind do wonders, also Lost Legacy to get rid of Ulamog.
Ryan Powell
If you're basically playing all single coloured symbol costs it should be fine.
Levi Stewart
The core energy cards are way to good.
Mason Ross
Went 4-1 tonight at FNM with UB Improvise. Got to the finals but then lost to a janky GB -1/-1 counters deck since my deck has no answer to Scarab Swarm and my losses against the deck had me drawing no removal. Perhaps next time.
Nathaniel Martin
>scarab swarm i meant nest of scarabs
Angel Myers
So, went 4-1 tonight with B/W tokens. Had one hilarious game against mono-B zombies where he scooped after I went 3 turns in a row where I gained 104 life and made 8 servos each turn. Lost to marvel. I feel I may need to stop talking smack on dispossess.
Gabriel Young
Is there any reason for me to have Threaten Effects in my sideboard? (Kari Zev's Expertise in this case). I play RG energy aggo.
James Turner
What are some cheaper alternatives to Fatal Push for a zombies deck? I already got Dark Salvation and Time to reflect.
Ryan Davis
How do you manage that?
Caleb Wilson
Grasp of Darkness is what you want, I think.
Lucas Turner
My deck for gameday weekend, thoughts?
My local meta doesn't follow the pro meta too closely but it's likely to have one or two spikes playing aetherworks or zombies. I can expect to come up against some of the following:
I'd go with Motorist unless you expect a lot of Walking Ballista/Liliana, the Last Hope, in which case Crop Captain could be better because of the second toughness.
Gabriel Perry
I've got 4 Gearhulks and I pulled a Lili, and have 4 Canals
Austin Rivera
Ridiculous levels of board stall. I drew 2 Anointed Processions, then embalmed an Annointer Priest. That gets me 4 tokens, which combined with my currently live one to give me 20 life so I can survive the Ormendahl he's swinging at me. Next turn, I get a third Procession, and embalm my other dead Priest, which means I get 8 more tokens, for a grand total of 13 Priests triggering for 104 life. After that comes Hidden Stockpile, which I start triggering every turn by sacrificing some smuck, usually a servo, to get 8 more servos and 104 more life. At this point, he's got 2 colossus, 2 relentless dead, about a half dozen zombie tokens, and Ormendahl while I have an army of 1/1s and 1/3. He was also around the 50s himself from swinging each turn. While I'm gaining shitloads of life each turn, it was still going to be a while before I had a meaningful amount of damage, and may actually ending up helping him swarm more, so I just kinda sat there gaining life. Fortunately, he realized I would win eventually, or we'd draw, and just scooped to go to game 2.
Charles Anderson
im curious, what were some of the older sets like in standard? like stuff from mirrodin.
David Johnson
Mirrodin almost broke MtG becaude of Cawblade.
Jaxson Young
And the original mirrodin broke MTG because of affinity
Liam Walker
>tfw get 7th out of 15 with janky Bant Humans Midrange because I got the Bye for match 1
Feels good.
Now to build New Perspectives for maximum memes.
Sebastian Bell
did any other sets have top tier ubercancer in them? i've heard stuff about how bad urzas saga was
Hunter Peterson
bump
Gavin Lee
It did pretty well for anyone that cares, undefeated in the swiss and then lost 2-1 to UR spells (drew no counters)
Nicholas Rodriguez
>game day, see dozens of marvel fags again this week >game 1, get t4 ulamog'd and still go on to win it >go 4-0 in the placement rounds, 8-0 in games. Feeling good >cut to top 8 >guy in 8th is on some super jank artifact brew, interesting but an easy 2-0 >next round more marvel >get t4 ulamog'd again game 2 >deal with it, then get ulamog'd again a turn after >JUST >pick up game 3 >in finals, guy I beat to go 4-0 >BG counters >keep a 3 land hand with two grasps and one anguished >proceed to draw 9 more lands >he goes gearhulk into gearhulk into gearhulk >game 2 >draw 7, see one land - mull 6, 1 land, mull 5, no lands, mull 4, two lands >don't see another land for four turns >lose >"good games"
Jacob Cooper
Not much of a standard player but I'm going to my usual draft tonight and I want to cobble something together from what I already have to play with some buddies who play standard in downtime or before it fires. Any suggestions on this neo-jund idea I've got going? would it be better to take out the unbridled growths and the nagas for attune with aether and the elf that makes mana based on energy? any other ideas on finishers/champ of rhonas targets? also have no clue on the sideboard, I have a lot of random cards from drafting but all from kaladesh/revolt/amonkhet Creatures - 24 ---------- 3x Fourth Street Prowler 2x Gifted Aetherborn 3x Naga Vitalist 3x Champion of Rhonas 2x Combustible Gearhulk 2x Noxious Gearhulk 2x Glorybringer 1x Rhonas the Indomitable 1x Vizer of the Menagerie 1x Gonti, Lord of Luxury 2x Vengeful Rebel 2x Ridgescale Tusker
Sideboard - 15 --------- 2x Final Reward 2x Magma Spray ???
Elijah Walker
>3 colors >4 gearhulks+2 Dragons+ 2 7drops >22 lands and no Landtutors You need more lands/ramp and consitency
Jaxon Phillips
post your shitbrew
Nicholas Gray
alright, so what gets cut. this is my issue. I'd rather be up to say 24 lands and have maybe 1-2 more mana dorks, or maybe just draw. do I take out some of the removal? I considered taking out unlicensed disintegration since it only has one artifact to activate it, but 3 mana destroy target creature seems too good not to have in the deck.
Josiah Young
take out bestiary, convergence, growth
Noah Robinson
Fourth Street Prowler is frankly useless except some silly circumstances, there's way better 1-drop creatures in this format. Narnam Renegade is an example which synergizes with your Unbridled growth. Put some Traverse The Ulvenwald in there or Attune with Aether. With Attune you can also get extra value out of your Aether Hubs and Pic related. Champion of Rhonas is too small of a body to invest so much in, but you should playtest it if you REALLY want to play it Cut Blue green Nissa, 4 colors are way too much for you. I would not take out your removal, as interaction is always important.
Evolving Wilds is a must, if you can't afford dual lands
Tyler Morris
Are the decks going into Pro Tour tomorrow posted anywhere, or will be post anywhere tonight?
David Reed
so I sleaved up UR control for Gameday
Round 1 vs. Zombies Smashed him with Sweltering Suns both games
Round 2 vs. Some Red Black Control Gearhulk Timetwister huge advantage he couldn't come back
go to report the game guy says he has it recorded as me winning 2-0 and that I am 2-0 for the day so far
Round 3. Paired down vs a UG ramp deck who is 1-1 even though multiple other players are 2-0 and the guy I just beat is also getting paired against one of them.
Go back to the desk to make sure things were reported correctly Guy confirms I am 2-0 and that the matches were just paired in a weird way
Win vs. Ramp
now "3-0" Round 4 vs. some GB intro deck stuff, guy is 0-3 very confused go check again with the desk guy now realizes he has been pushing the wrong buttons and my record is 1-2
too late to fix now
play out the rest of my rounds and win every game and feel bad for beating up on people playing intro decks
finish off 4-2 somehow make top 8 get my promo card play fist game of top 8 vs. Aetherworks Marvel all other 7 players in top 8 are Aetherworks Marvel
lost to turn 4 Ulamog game 1 lose to turn 4 Ulamog game 2
what a day lads...
at lest the guy that got the free win off of me in round 2 was a good enough guy to give me is promo glory bringer and I got one for making top 8 anyway so I guess it worked out