Warhammer 40,000 General - /40kg/

Hey, I'm Rippy, who are you?

What news are we expecting for today?
>Talons faction focus when

I'm hoping for admech.

>chaos cultists 5 ppm
>tzaangors 7 ppm
>space marines 13 ppm
It's not looking good for horde armies at this point.

sadness :(

Some user calculated the average on battle cannons in the last thread. Got it really this shit?

The new Primaris dread looks kind of silly.

Soon brother.

60 mm base.

>I was shocked hive tyrants are only ~16 foot tall

Tervigons confirmed shit

>Talons
Eventually since there are ten faction focuses left before release and there arent many left aside from marine chapters

Eldar:
Scatter lasers are 36" Heavy 4 Ap0

Inquisition and Grey Knights:

Inquisitors can enter any Imperial vehicle and give bubble buffs to Imperium keyword units, depending on the Ordo chosen
Grey Knights know a nerfed verison of Smite, 12" 1 mortal wound (3 if Daemon keyword)

Necrons:
Reanimation protocols are made at the start of your movement phase. Roll a D6 for every slain model, on a 5+ it comes back. You can roll again in the following turns. You cannot roll if the whole unit is slain.

Living metal allows for automatically regaining lost wounds

Basic Gauss is 24" Rapid Fire **Ap-2**, Gauss Cannon is Ap-3 Dmg
Discipline 10

Warriors cost unchanged form 7th.

Monolith M6" W20 S8 T8 Save3+, Gauss Flux Arc Heavy 3 S5 Ap-2, Whip Heavy 6 S8 Ap-2 DmgD6. When it gets charged, roll on a D6 and if 4+ (or worse, depending on wounds lost) charging unit gets D6 mortal wounds.

Space Marines:
Grav is S5 Ap-3 and does DmgD3 if Save is 3+ or better

Narthecium no longer provides FnP but heals a model for D3 wounds

Tau:
Markerlights are cumulative per phase and provide different bonuses, depending on how many hit the unit. Basic is reroll 1s, then you have remove cover bonus, increase BS, use Seeker/Destroyer Missiles (normally snapshooting)

Railguns have a chance to do Mortal Wounds
Activating Nova Reactor may result in Mortal Wound

Firesight Marksmen are Independent Characters
Pulse rifles are AP0. Pulse Blasters AP-1 at 10" and AP-2 at 5", Assault 2.

Ghostkeels and Stealth Suits give a -1 malus to BS if shot at from more than 12", can deploy outside of deployment zone at 12".

Broadside Railgun is Heavy 2 S8 Ap-4 DmgD6, HYMP is Heavy 4 S7 Ap-1 DmgD3

Pathfinders and Kroots are faster than Fire Warriors

It's weird.
It's like they used some kind of formula to get the points.

Not a bad thing if it works.

It basically is a random Small blast or large blast weapon.
That can kill 1 to 3 times the same model.

I didn't think it was possible to make the battle cannon worst.

New Games-Workshop still can't into basic math.

...

Sure, from foot to the top of the model
Warriors are just shy of 5.5cm
Termagants are 2.5
Zoanthropes are 8
Tyrnnocytes are probably the biggest at 22cm
hive guard are also 5.5
Carnifex is 7cm
Tervigon is 11
Dimacharadon is 16

That should be most of them

is that tervigon spawning a once/game thing? Because if thats the case they damn well better have dropped the price of them significantly.

I can't wait to be able to move and (reliably) fire with Noise Marines.

The salvo rule is gone, THINGS SHALL GET LOUD further than before!

Narthecium providing regeneration will be topkek tier

Regenerating terminators here I come!

It feels like the old "make your own Xeno or tank" rules.

It was basically a D&D point buy system. You can put into a formula, but is not that.

So are Tau buffed, nerfed or nothing really changed?

5-20 models. 16 points each.

Poxwalker cost 6 each.

>that don't add up to 5.
was it autism?

YES SCREAM TO BE HEARD, BROTHER!

They are with the NPC factions so we don't care.

Wanting your points to add up neatly to 1500 or 1495 is not "autism" unfortunately.

Because Noise Marines have to buy the Sonic Weapons separately.

Noise Marines comes equipped like a normal CSM, and can be set up for melee.

Thank you mate
>Warriors are just shy of 5.5cm
Still bigger than sigmarines so painting them should be easy
>Termagants are 2.5
Taller than skaven clanrats so I'm okay with this.
Fuck, it will be hard to choose an army for this edition

>starting hobby again with 8th now that there's a chance Tyranids might be updated into being not complete shit

>decide to go Tyranids with GSC allies
>will probably eventually get Guard with my allies for extra long ranged dakka

>mfw thinking about the 300+ MINIMUM troops I'll need to build and paint between Tyranids, GSC, and Guard

Should I just kill myself now?

>we don't care
Show me on the doll where the riptide has touched you

Oh look, I can't believe it's the same eternally triggered shitposter again.

It's like the Tau version of DAfag.

>Should I just kill myself now?
W8 4 8 M8 then kill youself

Oh a quest giver?!

SSS+++ extra good. Get ready for yet another 3 years of being cucked by Big Blue Dicks. Sky is falling, armageddon is here! PANIC! PANIC!
Wait for the point costs, retard.

>Basic Gauss is equivalent to old AP3

That seems a dumb way to handle it.

>Reanimation requires you to track original unit size of every non vehicle unit

This seems bookkeepingy and liable to slow the game.

Fucking well leak the ork stuff already!

Bear in mind that Warriors and Hive Guard stand upright while Gants are on all fours

>>Reanimation requires you to track original unit size of every non vehicle unit
>This seems bookkeepingy and liable to slow the game.
Well, it should be on your army list, so as long as your units can be distinguished from one another it's not going to be too tough. Alternatively, put casualties into groups and count them to see how many dice to roll.

Man, I'm brand new here. Just asked because I thought that these infos are actually somehow revealing. No need to be rude

>intentionally choose three factions known for their hordes of low cost models
>intentionally choose the cheapest units from those factions
I honestly don't know what you were expecting or how we can have any sympathy.

>Reanimation requires you to track original unit size of every non vehicle unit
while you are right, who the fuck runs necron units in multiples that aren't 5?

>Basic Gauss is 24" Rapid Fire **Ap-2**
I'm assuming the -2 is on a 6 to-wound roll.

Reanimation protocol seems pretty powerful, although it's still much better than it is now.

I'm assuming people got a chance to play 8e at WarhammerFest.

Do we have any reliable reports of how it is?

>play nids
Yeah just do it. Better to die by your own hand before Khorne gets you.

It's obvious that the anti-Tau shitposters are way more triggered than the Tau shitposters and I don't even like the blueberries.

get fucked faggot go back to weddit

it should be on your fucking list.

Why is everyone excited about the points costs when they didnt drop the armoury at the same time? This doesnt tell us anything yet.

>muh anti tau
Stop falseflagging.

Primaris kept losing to nurgle.

>tfw I just spent 8 hours painting up my tervigon
They better have a hefty price drop to go with this, this shit isn't worth 195 points

I hope flash gitz won't be shit. I want to actually use them in a game for once.

As was said in the last thread, it allows for better balance.
If something is a hair better, would you want it 5pts more, or the same as the lesser?
Either way, one of them is never gonna get used.

>>intentionally choose the cheapest units from those factions

>implying I won't have atleast 100+ required troops just filling out minimum slots of 1000 point armies for each faction

Still means you need to count the remaining models in the unit, look up or recall the original number and do a subtraction with every wounded unit in your army, then roll. All minor, but all adds up.

In a big game your "reanimation phase" could be nearly as long as an extra shooting phase.

Ork Battlewagon M12" W16 T7 Save 4+, can get T8 but loses Open-topped. Deff Rolla hits on a 2+, 6 attacks S8 Ap-2.

DakkaDakka leak.

Awww... did the wittle blue man hurt you? It's ok, Uncle Cawl can make you all the same toys he has so you can be cool too.

Apparently not. It's always -2

The game they're playing is unbalanced though.

Fairly sure the demo game is with the 2 Tacs and Captain, vs all the Plague Marines, Cultists and the Termie lord

Are all chaos champions apart from sorcerers free upgrades now? Just in case you needed more motivation to run MSU.

>It should be on your fucking list

Is this faceless warrior blob 2 or 3?

but user didn't you know the game is streamlined?

>being this triggered because someone asked about something
You could just said that you have no idea how Tau work so you can't help me. Sorry about destroying your safe space

Depending on points cost they might be alright.

S7 T8 W14 vehicle-crunching MC who will most likely be a psyker buffmachine.

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Well, at least you have the decency to admit that you were falseflagging.

It's ok though, you'll always be the most hated faction in the game, even moreso than Ultramarines, Primarines, Grey Knights, Orks, Tyranids, Eldar etc. No one likes you and you fit horrible into the setting. In other words, a perfect mirror of their players.

Holy shit, they made deff rollas even better than the 4th edition ones. Shame the BW itself seems significantly weaker.

We know.

I'm not too fussed about starter kit balance (Dark Vengeance was about 100 pts extra to marines, iirc).

I was meaning is it fun.

>Monolith M6" W20 S8 T8 Save3+, Gauss Flux Arc Heavy 3 S5 Ap-2, Whip Heavy 6 S8 Ap-2 DmgD6. When it gets charged, roll on a D6 and if 4+ (or worse, depending on wounds lost) charging unit gets D6 mortal wounds.

Is this enough to make Monoliths good again?

I always loved Monoliths. They're gigantic and their teleporting powers are neato.

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Rubrics are 18 points base now, hoping the bolters aren't that expensive. Land Raider same cost though it's better. Scarab Occult same issue as Rubrics, points will determine.

But AHRIMAN IS 100 POINTS CHEAPER HOLY SHITBALLS. Exalted Sorcerers cheaper than regular ones! Magnus got a 235 point pricecut!

Tervigon M8" W14 S7 T8 Save3+, can either create a 10 Fleshbane Termagaunt unit (you need to keep the points for them) OR re-add 10 Fleshbane Termagaunt models to an existing unit IF the lost models has Fleshbane already.

Ork Battlewagon M12" W16 T7 Save 4+, can get T8 but loses Open-topped. Deff Rolla hits on a 2+, 6 attacks S8 Ap-2.

What is fleshbane?

Traslating from the Italian Forum that is leaking.

C'tan 220/230 points

M8 WS2+ BS2+ S8 T8 W8 4++

melee AP-4 d6 damage nightbringer, the same but 3 damage the deceiver.

Deceiver can redeploy itself and 1d3 units everywhere at almost 12" from the enemy but can't charge.

Nighbringer has a shooting attack 12" assault d6 S8 AP -4 d3 damage

They know a c'tan power listed at the beginning.

Apparently they are characters so holy shit they can't be targeted.

>What is fleshbane?
Probably meant fleshborer. Seems kind of shit that you can't even choose the weapons.

Nerfs are going to asspound Magnus harder than the Wolves asspounded Prospero.

fleshborers, I imagine

being able to immediately beef up a squad could be gud, depending on the other buffs it can sling around

I like the way they're making it beneficial to bring more of the same group.
You can take different Chaos or legion units, but it takes more spaces in your land raider.

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We know.

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no, it's just saying obliterators/mutilators are very bulky in a roundabout way

Well, so it's the best time to ask at LGSs if they still have any box of pic related

>Apparently they are characters so holy shit they can't be targeted.
Assuming most sniper rifles are now S 4 D 1, they will be difficult as fuck to kill unless there are some psychic powers which let you target characters or something.

Seems like big (but not too big) characters are really tough now.

Hope to hell that cognis lascannon are sniper weapons.

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Is there leak for Plasma Cannon yet ? Do they have the regular/overcharge thingy ? I'm considering making a whole squad full of them if they do.

This appears to be there cost without weapons so dont get too excited.

Possible leaks of CSM wargear costs or other Thousand Sons stuff? I'm starving for details holy shit.

THIS SILENCE OFFENDS SLAANESH

Only the primaris marines get the plasma incinerator.