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>Mk3 Trollbloods Command
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>Mk3 Cryx Command
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>Abridged Mk2 Lore
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Exigence:
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First for the infantry meta coming back

Ret's in kind of a weird place for themes, since so much Ret tech is focused on delivering Sentinels, and Sentinels aren't in any theme.

And then they just released a bunch of new Ryssovass models... and no theme for them. In the book that published two new themes.

So, I dunno. Cygnar's getting a Trencher theme, so all of their "types" of infantry get in at least one theme (well, depending on how the theme treats Long Gunners), so I'd have to imagine Dawnguard and Nyss themes will exist at some point.

Dawnguard theme and Nyss Refugees theme are only a matter of time away though.

Looks like we'll be getting some Stranglight Workshop models in the future.

Did this game really die? I wanted to try getting into it, but the playerbase nearby has shrunk and I have heard that there are a lot of issues.

...

>Did this game really die?

It's far from dead. It had a rocky period in the changeover to Mk3, though, and people love to complain constantly.

Post units/models you think are criminally underrated
>with UA, gigantic threat range (6+3+2+2=13" threat range)
>can slaughter units with cleave (Fell Caller can make this even better)
>potential 3 (3!) attacks per turn
>Under Band of Heroes, can fuck over Ghost Fleet/any army that has a lot of tough infantry (like say new Trencher theme coming up)

You forgot
>Good against the new Khador/Troll BEs

I've got a unit of these guys already, should I buy another? I've also got the Kithkar and plan on buying the Fell Caller Hero, should I not and buy the UA instead?

Should I hold off until we get a sweet northkin theme like I originally planned?

Uh I don't think that's really important.
I dunno, I think two units might be a bit overkill. These guys are basically laser guided infantry removal.
Get both the UA and Fell Caller, the UA gives No Quarter (+2" to charge and pathfinder) and Cleave (the first time they kill a unit during their activation, they get to make another attack). The Fell Caller actually make the Fennblades more accurate than the Kithkar and he's got more general utility than the Kithkar (hands out pathfinder, allows infantry to get from knockdown, and gives bonus MAT).

Really I'd say the only issue with them is that they can't do jack to heavies. (and to a lesser extent lights).
Non-weapon master POW 12 isn't gonna be cracking armor anytime soon.

It's pretty dead or dying. Most of the middle gamers have left for Infinity, Malifaux, Guild, etc.

What you have left are the hardcore con goers, the new guys that don't know any better and the people on the verge of leaving.

Makes me sad but I blame PP. Your player base shrinking is the norm, although there are exceptions.

They aren't underrated. Underrated means people don't appreciate or take them. They're usually the first melee infantry Trolls reach for (If they reach for any). Madrak 2 runs them ok.

It also helps Kriel Warriors are an example of shitty and boring design, Pygs are ass, etc. So really they don't have much to compete with. But regardless, they're ok.

How do we fix Kriel Warriors? I really wish I could use these guys, I love them thematically.
Honestly it's a little strange that they fell off so hard, if anything they got even better at their jamming role with unyielding.
Oh yeah tough nerf LMAO

Oh yeah and the caber thrower got Single Shot, even after the prayers went away.
Fucking WHY?

Anyone happen to have a pdf of No Quarter #72? The pastebin in the OP is sorely out of date, and I haven't seen anything in the last couple of threads though it is possible I'm blind as a bat.

>potential 3 (3!) attacks per turn
How are you getting that? They have one attack plus the one potential Cleave attack

It's still the second or third largest have in the industry. Check out your local area and see what people are playing.

The best thing you can do after that is get away from the online community asap its just constant bitching from people who don't play the game anymore

Vengeance+Initial+Cleave

>big dick elf general is a falconer
>he has special bird powers
Sign me the fuck up

Both versions of him are super good too.

he also rides horses

Looking at his other abilities, both modes are meant for melee builds. Good thing Griffons are awesome.
How good is sniping through trees with bird-o-vision for fun on the side?

Decently. Ret jacks have decent guns, though the range is usually an issue (which plays into the forest thing).

His personal and utterly powerful Jack - Imperatus - can sometimes just hang around behind a forest and shoot with his fire gun, until something gets close and he cleaves it into a million pieces, by charging through the forest with Mobility and a free charge.

Something like this, then. Discordia goes well with everybody, right?

I'm going to a local Steamroller tomorrow and I'm taking this. Wish me luck faggots!

(Mordikaar 1) Void Seer Mordikaar [+29]
- Archidon [10]
- Archidon [10]
- Cyclops Raider [9]
- Despoiler [19]
Extoller Soulward [3]
Mortitheurge Willbreaker [4]
Swamp Gobber Chef [1]
Void Spirit [4]
Void Spirit [4]
Nihilators (max) [15]
Paingiver Beast Handlers (min) [5]
Praetorian Ferox (max) [20]
Bunker (Objective) [0]

>Specialists
Basilisk Krea [7]
Extoller Soulward [3]
Gremlin Swarm [3]
Gremlin Swarm [3]
Paingiver Bloodrunner Master Tormentor [4]
Paingiver Bloodrunner Master Tormentor [4]
Paingiver Beast Handlers (max) [7]
Paingiver Bloodrunners [9]


(Zaadesh 2) Lord Tyrant Zaadesh [+28]
- Agonizer [6]
- Aradus Soldier [16]
- Archidon [10]
- Archidon [10]
- Titan Gladiator [15]
- Titan Sentry [15]
Cataphract Cetrati (max) [18]
- Tyrant Vorkesh [6]
Paingiver Beast Handlers (max) [7]
Bunker (Objective) [0]

>Specialists
Basilisk Krea [7]
Bronzeback Titan [18]
Mortitheurge Willbreaker [4]
Orin Midwinter, Rogue Inquisitor [5]
Paingiver Bloodrunner Master Tormentor [4]
Swamp Gobber Chef [1]

Not really dead, but in a interesting spot. Dead games are dead. Nobody talks about them.

Dead is a strong word.

Sliding off into the Abyss of irrelevancy is a better way to phrase it.

Could someone sum up where the plot went from Khador and Cygnar allying against the Cryx in the forest?

I've been in a coma.

After Cryx was defeated, Khador immediately tried to betray everyone else. There was a brief civil war in Cygnar which resulted in Magnus killing Vinter and Vinter's bastard son taking the throne with Leto as an advisor. Khador overextended itself and decided to regroup and made a truce with Cygnar. Cygnar agreed to let Khador keep Llaell on the condition that if an heir to the Llaellese throne was found, they had to give it back. Khador agreed cause they thought all the heirs were dead, but Cygnar secretly had an heir stashed away and used that as an excuse to launch an attack.

What happened to the elven ice god the Khadorans found?

Why havent the dragonfather won yet?

Why is the russian baba yaga now gaining an army for herself in Horde?

>Fucking WHY?

MUH DESIGN SPACE user, WELCOME TO MK 3, HERE IS YOUR THEME LIST, TAKE 2 OF EACH OF THESE, TAKE 2 FREE SOLOS

Long story short
>Caine is off searching for his daughter (with the warcaster talent) with Watts and Ryan from the B13 in tow
>Magnus killed Vinter
>Julius is now king of Cygnar, Leto is an advisor, and he's decided to fuck Khador's shit up
>Julius is also engaged to the Princess of Llael which has Khador steamed as fuck
>Aiakos is now a king of the Scharde Isles near Cryx
>Vlad is married to the Empress
>Mordikaar is perma dead
>Goreshade was resurrected and blessed by Scyrah and joined Retribution
>elves kicked Skorne out of Ios
>Severius is perma dead (killed by Hexeris)
>Feora and Kreoss are about to have a civil war
>Nemo produced more lightning jacks
>Strakhov has gone full Metal Gear and is insanely strong now
>The Old Witch fucked off and unleashed people Menoth banished to Urcaen
>Madrak left to create a new home for the trollkin cause he was tired of Doomshaper's horseshit
>Morghoul took over a house in Skorne
>Haley traded the Athanc to a dragon who with other dragons decided to stop Toruk from destroying civilization
>Shae has come back from Zu
>Cryx is completely gone from the Thornwood
>Kallus became a better body using dragon parts
>Carver is being a warlord still
>Barnabas became a god

>Barnabas became a god

Holdup, what

Yeah there was a big massive fight between Farrow, Gatormen, and Trollbloods.
Caver killed Barnabas during said fight, but Barnabas wanted that to happen so he could drink the souls of the slain (or some such nonsense). So he resurrected and became a god.

The Retribution retook him from Zerkova before the Cryx forest fight.

Haley and Saeryn cut a deal with the strongest of Toruk's kids, giving him the athanc of the 'Champion' in exchange fpr protecting Cygnar from Toruk and leaving it alone himself and ignoring Everblight for awhile (I think on that last one).

Apparently she thinks it's necessary for some reason to unleash an army that hates Menoth and use it for her own purposes.

What people never seem to mention is that both Cygnar and Khador were attempting to screw each other over that Llael agreement. The beginning of Flashpoint: Acts of War is a relative to the Llaelese throne being murdered by Khadoran spies in Ord. Khador signed that agreement knowing that heirs existed, then went about hunting them all down and killing them. Princess whatsherface, future queen of Cygnar just happens to be the one heir that Cygnaran agents managed to save from Khador's murderous grasp.

That Khador backed out of the peace agreement after their douchebaggery failed shows how morally bankrupt that nation is.

Not really. The agreement was signed with both parties knowing that it would just be an excuse to start a war. Wither Khador would kill off all the heirs and Cygnar would be forced to find some new excuse or Cygnar would present one and Khador would claim that she isn't a real heir and that Cygnar was violating the spirit of the treaty.

>That Khador backed out of the peace agreement after their douchebaggery failed shows how morally bankrupt that nation is.

Yup that's what makes them interesting. Cygnar as interesting as Toast because it always passes on whatever responsibility it has of being dirty on something else.

Is that all Everblight's been doing with the story?

Aside from generally being an idiot? Yes.

Fuck. I don't mind Everblight being a short sided idiot with immense draconic power since that's the sort of shit I signed up for, but I don't know why PP has them as a main faction for Hordes while having less of a presence on the world that Minions and Grymkin.

Because he's either won or not.

Similarly to Cryx, he kinda has to loose otherwise either he conquers the world, or everybody else notices and shifts focus to killing him.

A poorly strategized "eat all the things for the blight god" crusade can only raze so many border settlements before they get kicked in the teeth by an actual army.

So is there a reason why the corrupter. Has its own special version of detonator?

>Why is the russian baba yaga now gaining an army for herself in Horde?

It's not really her army. She unleashed the Defiers in order to counter or delay something even worse (what exactly that is is unknown), but she doesn't command them. They're more like vaguely aligned. She's actually taken steps to reign them in as well, giving Holden a magic rifle and setting him up to oppose the Defiers.

>
burster has a bigger aoe and is critically "acid" typed so as to not harm your own army. Detonator is a spell effect off of like, shatterstorm, and has a smaller aoe but is magical damage.

The corrupter gets its own version to help in it's role as a support heavy and to incentive taking it for it's flexibility. Detonator seems worse in the vacuum of this comparison but comes as part of a model/UNIT upkeep.

Also, who the hell takes Corrupters?

I couldn't even find cool art of this hunk of junk.

>or everybody else notices and shifts focus to killing him

It always makes me wonder what Cryx's living troops would do if Toruk ever reached a position where the other nations were forced to unite against him or die. I mean, if Toruk ever did conquer the mainland, it's not like he's going to need the Satyxis or Scharde Isles folk any longer, so they'd probably be next on the chopping block.

Undead-ing the world isn't like a chief goal of his, that's just an unintended consequence of his blight. I don't even think he has much of a goal in life besides "get all my anthanc back", which ain't likely to happen for him.

We all know that "Rule with an Iron Fist" follows closely therafter.

Blight is known to cause devotion in his subjects. Most of the mainland would warp into a twisted reflection of an ideal world, and maybe he plans to just sit on it and acquire worship. Maybe try to take over the celestial world.

Anyone remembers in which No quarter they had a painting guide for the horses of each faction?
Should be when Flamebringers and the light cav units where shown.

Not sure on the NQ but the actual book Vengeance had a horse painting guide, should be in the OP.

cheers will check it out

>Mordikaar is perma dead

Now do we know Mordikaar is truly gone?

> elves kicked Skorne out of Ios

I thought the Skorne simply left because the invasion was no longer viable?

>future queen of Cygnar

If she marries Julius, doesn't that mean she ceases being the queen of Llael?

Also, I thought many in Llael preferred Khador's rule to that of the original monarchy, which was woefully inept by the time Khador kicked the door in and made the nation theirs?

Either way, I imagine there won't be much of a nation left by the time those two powers are done squabbling over it.

No, it's a Personal Union, she becomes the Queen of Llael and Julius becomes Prince Consort or whatever of Llael, while he'd be King of Cygnar and she would be his wife consort. Their heir becomes the leader of both Llael and Cygnar, but they would remain separate political entities until Cygnar integrates Llael, should they decide to do so. do you even eu4?

Could work I like running Helios with him, as the two were almost made for each other.

Relatively new player here, I just bought the legion mk3 battle box and was wondering where to go from there. I was thinking of picking up Abyslonia 2 because I've read that she's a good Warlock for having a ton of beasts, but I'm not sure what else to get. Any help would be appreciated

Are you a part of the Legion Facebook group? Join up there for more specialized discussion. There's also the Battle College: battlecollege.org/index.php/Legion_of_Everblight which is a good resource for new players.

Proteus seems cool with her, and the new model is sweet looking. Running lots of heavies means you'll probably want a couple forsaken and maybe even a Hellmouth unit for threat extension.

>2 Forsaken
>2 Shepards
>1 Seraph/Neraph kit to magnetize, or at the least turn into a Seraph
>1 Carnivean kit to magnetize, or at least turn into a Carnivean
>Proteus
>Raek
>Naga Nightlurker
>1 or 2 Blighted Wasps, though only Abby2 will ever really use these so hold them off

If you plan to play in theme

>2 Nyss Sorceresses for Oracles of Annihilation, which is you might as well if you plan on going beast heavy and don't care about character beasts that aren't Proteus

If not

>Typhon
>1-2 Hellmouths

Aight thanks, I'll look into the Facebook group as well as Battle College and pick up the solos you mentioned

bampo

Post ye non-standard colour schemes!

Doing infernal machines because im too snowflake for ghost fleet.

Caster suggestions aside Deneghra?

Allow me to do one better, here's a list, and why to take it:

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Cryx Army - 75 / 75 points
[Theme] Infernal Machines (CID)

!!! Your army contains CID entries.
!!! You are using a pre-release theme.

(Goreshade 2) Goreshade the Cursed [+28]
- Nightwretch [7]
- Sepulcher [36]
Mechanithralls (CID) (max) [9]
- Brute Thrall (3) [6]
- Skarlock Commander [0(3)]
Mechanithralls (CID) (max) [9]
- Brute Thrall (3) [6]
- Skarlock Commander [3]
Mechanithralls (CID) (max) [9]
- Brute Thrall (3) [6]
- Skarlock Commander [3]
Mechanithralls (CID) (max) [9]
Necrosurgeon & Stitch Thralls [0(4)]
Necrosurgeon & Stitch Thralls [0(4)]

Mechanithrall unit without Skarlock Commander gains Ambush.

Alternatively,

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Cryx Army - 75 / 75 points
[Theme] Infernal Machines (CID)

!!! Your army contains CID entries.
!!! You are using a pre-release theme.

(Goreshade 2) Goreshade the Cursed [+28]
- Sepulcher [36]
Soul Trapper [1]
Mechanithralls (CID) (max) [9]
- Brute Thrall (3) [6]
- Skarlock Commander [0(3)]
Mechanithralls (CID) (max) [9]
- Brute Thrall (3) [6]
- Skarlock Commander [3]
Mechanithralls (CID) (max) [9]
- Brute Thrall (3) [6]
- Skarlock Commander [3]
Mechanithralls (CID) (max) [9]
- Brute Thrall (3) [6]
Necrosurgeon & Stitch Thralls [0(4)]
Necrosurgeon & Stitch Thralls [0(4)]

No Skarlock Commander unit gets Ambush.

Curse of Shadows fixes ARM question
Mirage can give threat extension
Hexblast for offensive upkeep/animi removal
Occultation as option
Sepulcher can return up to 3 mechinathralls or 1 brute per turn
Necrosurgeons can return up to 1 mechanithrall per turn
Necrosurgeons gain corpses for nearby mechanithralls dying
Skarlock Commanders give AD and animi/upkeep removal on unit
Brute Thralls shieldguard as needed or do heavy lifting

Most importantly, feat can be used to trade Mechanithralls for Brute Thralls.

Azrael.

Goddamit. Feminists are making their move on Lormahordes.

How so user?

>Malifaux, infinity, gumball
>games that aren't even big enough to have a meta
Lol call MK3 a dead game all you want, I'm in a major city with multiple MK3 metas, and the only thing dead has been some game stores closing from shit management. Groups move around, maybe no one told you because they hated playing with you.

Probably people getting irritated about pun ups (again, like they do every year) and sperglords freaking out (again, like they do every year).

don't fall for easy bait user

Every. Fucking. Year.
I still don't understand who they're trying to impress? What reasonable person (male OR female) gets honestly offended at pinup art? Are the fucking Puritans bitching about WMH online? Did the entire cities of Portland and San Fran decide to launch an online crusade in the name of social justice?

And why the shit does lormahordes still have an audience? It's filled with the worst people from the old forums. Veeky Forums has better discussion, and we're all actually autistic.

You'll notice lormahordes is pretty dead and slow. Pretty much all conversation on the game has moved to the Facebook groups at this point.

>Pin ups
People want equal representation? It's not worth getting upset about and PP should really have done some male pin ups at this point. They're just pandering to what they think their base is

Dunmer themed skorne

What would be a good color scheme to go with chocolate elf Ret, other than white?

Brown skin?
Dark blue armor, red leathers and capes
or
Tan/sand armor, gray leathers and white capes

I really like this user, specifically the color you did the Skorne flesh. Any more pics?

SETTING OUT NOW FAGGOTS, HERE I GO

How many people need to participate in a Steamroller on order for it to be 'competitive'?

there is male pinups for the homo and femdom crowd m8, they're called fel reavers and Lady Z gimps.

Also the Gfur crowd with beasts. All of em.
Specially Satyrs.

::)

>women and homosexuals are tiny minorities of the games remaining playerbase
>PP does the smart thing and focuses on marketing stuff for the majority they know they'll get money from, and occasionally giving the minorities a nod
>"WWWAAAAH ME WUNTS EQWUL REPRESENTASHUN!" (translated: I want only MY tastes catered to, and nobody else can have anything!)

and to add, I'm a fucking convergence player, so these "minorities" can go suck a rock into their mouths through their anuses.

How long until I can buy Rinnie?

Another newbie here, a friend just told me she's ordered a battlegroup for me to try the game with her since I've expressed interest from running the RPG. I'm getting the Legion battlegroup, and the old one since it was cheap and she figured 'hey, more dragons!'.

What kind of starting tactics should I be looking at with Kryssa and her lot? What about when I get to mix in the carnivean and more shredders? My friend is getting the same two boxes, but for Circle Orboros. Are there any specific things I should watch out for with Tannith and the differenves warpwolves and argus?

I don't think so. Toruk was around for a long while before he split his athanc and most of the worldis fine.

who the fuck cares what goes on in their containment forum?

We don't actually know how long, and we don't know what he was doing.

But the second he settled down and actually WANTED something, he poisoned an entire series of islands and created a society based upon corruption and blind subservience.

All of his progeny (Which are said to be reflections of him) are all ruthless conquerers.

are they? with the exception of Everblight (though he fits this pretty well even still) all the dragons we've seen seem to just hide in mountains and just do classic dragon things. There's no "dragon empires" besides Cryx, and even there Toruk just sits somewhere and doesn't do anything. Like there's Everblight who talks big about wanting to rule everything, but he is so inconsequential to the story and is seemingly limited to raiding bumfuck nowhere Khador towns and making elf waifus. What ruthless conquering was Pyromalfus doing hiding in a ruined castle? What tyranny does fucking Blighterghast do sitting on his ass in the Wyrmwalls? The only city raiding dragons seem to be the twins, and they can't even take a single city of a dying race. Dragons are canonically total jobbers that talk big but are ultimately just as worthless as all the other "ruthless conquerors" in setting. Fucking pigmen do more conquering than all dragon progeny combined.

It's also a case that every dragon plans to pound the other if they get out of line.

Maybe your right and Toruk would just fuck off into a deep Crevice once his Anthak is recovered...But something tells me otherwise.

Okay, so, what I learned from my Steamroller today is that Mordikaar is just shit.

how'd your games go, user?

>Round 1
Didn't know if I could buy attacks after sacrificing movement from Wurmwood's Strangleholds. Thought my opponent said I could, turns out after I'd activated everything else that I couldn't. Still only just lost. Zaadesh's feat is fucking brutal.
>Round 2
Thyra and more infantry than Zaadesh can handle. Couldn't bring out Mordikaar because his other list was Durst.
>Round 3
Thought fuck it and used Mordikaar, played like I didn't give a fuck, ended up winning. Model D in my Ferox unit was a fucking hero though holy shit. He sat there with nothing but tough from a Willbreaker and proceeded to tank an entire Mountain King activation. Every single attack either missed, or got a passed tough roll. Like holy shit. Then next turn the Mountain King frenzied, went on the same Ferox, hit, and he passed tough again. By this time my feat was up and the rest of his board just couldn't deal with my shit now that his Mountain King had been rendered useless by dice rolls.

Even though Mordikaar was my only winning caster, it felt like I was having to shoehorn Zaadesh into matches because I knew Mordikaar had zero chance. Methinks Makeda1/Rasheth will do much better in the future.

Sorry it was my action I sacrificed to Stranglehold, not movement.

What was your mordikaar list like? Just playing 2 units of kitkats and some void spirits with like Archidons or something for beasts seems really strong with him. Archidons are really strong assassination pieces, especially with the high defense feat/ ghost walk up.

(Mordikaar 1) Void Seer Mordikaar [+29]
- Archidon [10]
- Archidon [10]
- Cyclops Raider [9]
- Despoiler [19]
Extoller Soulward [3]
Mortitheurge Willbreaker [4]
Swamp Gobber Chef [1]
Void Spirit [4]
Void Spirit [4]
Nihilators (max) [15]
Paingiver Beast Handlers (min) [5]
Praetorian Ferox (max) [20]

The Nihilators are to force my opponent into a catch-22 situation where they're forced to deal with them, but dealing with them feeds Mordikaar fury next turn, letting everything else go for assassination. The list works as planned, the problem is more that Mordikaar is just an impotent caster. He can't beat high ARM casters because it mitigates so much of his Essence Blast damage, he can't assassinate when your opponent's caster has a good amount of transfers, he can't crack ARM at-fucking-all. Just no. If everyone was playing nice well rounded lists with a little bit of everything he'd be fine. But while ARM skews can be fielded, he just can't. Even when your opponent doesn't have high ARM anywhere he's still only a fair game.

Is it me or does the Sea King seem like it should have had two operational pirate cannons on that derelict wreck on it's back?

Didn't mean to reply to you, , I misclicked.

It really should have a whelp or pyg crew and a worse mouth gun. It should also be priced like the other two Troll gargossals.