Paizo Games General /pgg/ (also /pfg/)

TreeEater
TreeEater

Paizo Games General /pgg/ (also /pfg/)

For your first Starfinder campaign, are you going to be the GM or a player? If GMing, will you use modules or create your own adventures? If playing, what kind of character do you plan to start?

/pfg/ Link Repository (Pathfinder): https://pastebin.com/JLu5xXML
/sfg/ Link Repository (Starfinder): https://pastebin.com/3GfJKi0y
Current Playtests: https://pastebin.com/quSzkadj

Old Thread: /tg/thread/54831677#p54831677

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http://zalil.su/3875211
http://paizo.com/paizo/blog/v5748dyo5lk1d?Free-Starfinder-Character-Sheets-Download
https://www.maptoglobe.com/Hkp4UgaPW
http://imgur.com/O2KWiRW
http://zalil.su/3875211
http://www.d20pfsrd.com/races/other-races/more-races/standard-races-1-10-rp/triaxian-10-rp/
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UHGz5r-b1do
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=7OqwKfgLaeA
https://youtu.be/0jyVZNrWkow
http://bc-draws.tumblr.com/image/143549738807
Skullbone
Skullbone

"A small number of glory seekers look to enter the deadly games in the Halls of the Living, a subterranean city designed specifically for living inhabitants, where cruel reality shows and competitions are arranged as entertainment and broadcast through the Pact Worlds"
What kind of competitions would they have /pgg/?

iluvmen
iluvmen

@Skullbone
Death Race, the Wheel of the Worst and some sort of maze running.

Fuzzy_Logic
Fuzzy_Logic

Player, ysoki operative with the ghost specialization

askme
askme

Now that the dust has settled...
Operative or Soldier for the best damn sharpshooter alive?

Bidwell
Bidwell

@Skullbone
cruel reality shows

Methshot
Methshot

@Fuzzy_Logic
Lt. Squeakers will be a good addition to the team

Illusionz
Illusionz

Good afternoon everyone. Loreanon here, the guy who wrote stuff for the Trees and the Dragons. I finally woke up after a restless sleep, and am here. I'm not quite in the right frame of mind to make up more nonesense like I said I would, however I can answer any question you guys have about the current lore stuff involving the trees, dragons, wastelands, and the other stuff. Except the whale people, Someone else made that stuff, and while its cool I fear I might not be able to talk much about them since I haven't given them much thought

Raving_Cute
Raving_Cute

@Methshot
@Fuzzy_Logic
Speaking of Ysokai...

MPmaster
MPmaster

@TreeEater
First game tomorrow, as a player. Seeing as I don't yet know the full party composition, I'm preparing three characters to choose from once we're at the table.

1: Android Ghost Operative. Sneak around, pistol people, maybe liberate some Android bros.
2: Human Merc Soldier. Kick in doors and make stuff ded with shooty.
3: Human/Android Mechanic, archetpe undecided. I like the concept of the Drone, but it's like carrying around another player with terrible stats; kinda bad in practise. Exocortex makes your character better in fights and lets you apply certain drone mods (like flight systems) directly on yourself, and the archetype only adds wireless hacking on top of that which is meh.

Spamalot
Spamalot

SHALL NOT BE INFRINGED
Techno-Duels as part of the Application process
Dragon CEOs
Dragons are now smaller, more nimble and exponentially more fuckable

New_Cliche
New_Cliche

/tg/thread/54831677#p54839337
Alteration: Devolution or Lycanthropy
Conjuration: Rifts opening allowing fiends, star-spawn, etc.
Creation: Sphere of Annihilation
Dark: Massive area of 'Hungry Darkness' except instead of Con damage, is Con burn.
Death: Undead plague
Destruction: spontaneous explosions
Divination: Entire area becomes a Dead Magic zone
Enhancement: Objects spontaneously animate and become hostile to other non-animated objects.
Fate: Entire area becomes a Wild Magic zone
Illusion: Deadly Illusions spontaneously form
Life: Natural and Magical Healing stop working
Light: Radiation sickness
Mind: People are plagued with suicidal thoughts
Nature: spontaneous Earthquakes, Tsunami, Rapid Forest/Jungle Growth, and Volcanoes.
Protection: All structures (buildings, walls, etc) crumble and erode.
Telekinesis: People are randomly bludgeoned or thrown in a random direction.
Time: People are randomly ejected from time, only to reappear with + or - 1d3 age categories.
War: People are plagued with homicidal thoughts
Weather: Weather severity 7 in multiple weather categories (changing every couple hours or days).

Nojokur
Nojokur

@Spamalot
Dragons? Or Dragonkin? Because people fucking Dragonkin was already a thing on Triaxus.

happy_sad
happy_sad

@TreeEater
If playing, what kind of character do you plan to start?
Power Armour halfling.

5mileys
5mileys

@Nojokur
Says Dragonkin, not Dragons. You're right.

Methnerd
Methnerd

@TreeEater
If playing, what kind of character do you plan to start?

I really, really, really want to play a lightly armored Soldier (Ace Pilot) built around being a slippery, quick speedster that stings like a motherfucker.

Skullbone
Skullbone

Player, drow technomancer.

Sir_Gallonhead
Sir_Gallonhead

@TreeEater
I'm gonna be an ace pilot Shirrens who gets high off of the rush of flying at high speeds while listening to eurobeat

Snarelure
Snarelure

Weapon Specialization
Choose one Weapon Group (Small Arms, Longarms, Melee Weapons, etc.) You gain specialization in that weapon type, which means you add your CHARACTER LEVEL to weapon damage while using that weapon type

Flameblow
Flameblow

@Skullbone
I hope that's a man, I really do.

TalkBomber
TalkBomber

I don't visit this general often so I may have missed it. Has the second part of the PoW errata been released yet? How about that thing, manticore spirit or something... do we have a playtest doc for that yet?

In exchange, have some Hell's Burgers.

TechHater
TechHater

@Snarelure
Feels good, don't it?

whereismyname
whereismyname

@Snarelure
I bet there's going to be hardness everywhere when they release the bestiary.

Spamalot
Spamalot

@whereismyname
I too will be erect.

Soft_member
Soft_member

@TreeEater
I'm not planning to GM it until "Gundams" are added to the game, so I guess it depends on whether I join a game before whenever that happens. When I do, I'll create my own adventures.

takes2long
takes2long

Still no Starfinder core book to read through?

Emberburn
Emberburn

@takes2long
Releases on Thursday, I believe. Subscribers have PDFs, but none scrubbed and uploaded yet, to the best of my knowledge.

RavySnake
RavySnake

has intrigue game been announced yet?

VisualMaster
VisualMaster

@Emberburn
@takes2long
A leak has been released a while ago.

JunkTop
JunkTop

@Spamalot
@whereismyname
@TechHater
Enhanced Resistance is also a feat that gives you DR or Energy Resistance equal to your character level!

New_Cliche
New_Cliche

@takes2long
A link to the full leak has been posted in almost every thread.

Spazyfool
Spazyfool

@Emberburn
He doesn't have the secret scrubbed PDF

Supergrass
Supergrass

@VisualMaster
because flat images are much safer
pdf has more trickery to it

Lord_Tryzalot
Lord_Tryzalot

@VisualMaster
@New_Cliche
I'll start combing the previous thread, but I figured I'd check because it's not in the pastebin.

idontknow
idontknow

@RavySnake
I'm pretty sure picks are midnight on the GM's timezone, to maximize the pain.

Snarelure
Snarelure

I just want to see the new pathfinder player companion for my monthly dose
all anybody cares about is Starfinder and its various fuckups

o-okay

Burnblaze
Burnblaze

So people Have been discussing the Eternal Trees, and their association with the Spheres of Power. While magically those are what the Trees are associated with, at the same time you need to remember that the trees are also what hold together the world, and as such are associated with the metaphysical underpinnings of reality, and so each tree is associated with both a Sphere of Magic, and an aspect of reality. Further, to maintain their balance and to ensure no singular tree becomes too influential on reality, each tree has an associated "opposite" that balances it in terms of which concept they control.

Now, I came up with this list last night on the Trees, and which aspect of reality is associated with which tree, and what their opposite is. I'm currently working also on a map of the trees, but am having some trouble deciding how to organize their placement, At frst I was thinking of placing themin one half, then placing their opposite onthe other side of the planet, but that's just left many of the trees to be within the ocean.

Light and Dark
Alteration (Body) and Mind
Life and Death
Protection (Peace) and War (Conflict)
Time and Warp (Space)
Creation and Destruction (Entropy)
Enhancement (Within) and Conjuration (Without)
Divination (Knowledge) and Illusion (Emotion)
Nature (Growth) and Weather (Disturbance)
Telekinesis (Action) and Fate (Consequence)

Now, I"m not 100% sold on this list yet, so if anyone has any beter ideas for the list, I'd like to hear them

@New_Cliche
Yeah, this makes sense, and I can definitely see each tree doing this as a sort of Defensive Mechanism to protect itself while healing after being heavily damaged. Though I also like /tg/thread/54831677#p54840363 idea for the Mind tree

Emberburn
Emberburn

@JunkTop
So they just run parallel. Fantastic.

WebTool
WebTool

@idontknow
tfw he's holding it off for 3 hours, to maximize the pain

PurpleCharger
PurpleCharger

@Snarelure
Which is this?
@Lord_Tryzalot
Yeah, we haven't really updated it.

New_Cliche
New_Cliche

@Emberburn
Not everyone's going to have both feats!

Nojokur
Nojokur

Is there like a "Monster manual" for starfinder yet?

Boy_vs_Girl
Boy_vs_Girl

@New_Cliche
Its basically universal feat tax unless there is some sort of bullshit class prereq.

Spamalot
Spamalot

@Nojokur
Comes in October

likme
likme

@Nojokur
Alien Archive, releases at the same time as the core book, I'm pretty sure.

You can also download a free PDF of "First Contact," which is sort of a mini-bestiary.

kizzmybutt
kizzmybutt

@Lord_Tryzalot
@takes2long
Found it: http://zalil.su/3875211
For others looking but not willing to go through the previous for the Starfinder Core book.

SniperGod
SniperGod

@Boy_vs_Girl
Weapon Specialization is 3rd level, Enhanced Resistance is 4th.

Furthermore, Enhanced Resistance is not a universal DR, you have to pick what energy type it's for. Someone can have Enhanced Resistance (Kinetic) or Enhanced Resistance (Fire) for example.

Stark_Naked
Stark_Naked

@PurpleCharger
the elemental master handbook or whatever it's called. It's apparently pretty shitty, but it's still fun to have imagedumps of all the books as they come out

w8t4u
w8t4u

@Stark_Naked
Yeah, the thread's been deep in SF. My condolences.

Methnerd
Methnerd

@likme
you wish

SniperGod
SniperGod

@Boy_vs_Girl
Martials get weapon specialization for free as part of standard progression so they acknowledged the feat tax issue. Enhanced resistance doesn't seem to be as good as it would be in Pathfinder; the only requirement is BAB 4 but the benefit isn't as large as you'd expect. There're more big single attacks with how iteratives have been stripped down, damage type variety will be a lot bigger and you can only pick one sort to defend against when you take the feat, and rocket tag isn't going to be as much of a thing with the number changes which makes other forms of defense better than they traditionally are.

If a character goes to 20 they'll definitely pick up Enhanced Resistance at some point, but it's way easier to justify taking weak flavour feats under the new system.

AwesomeTucker
AwesomeTucker

@kizzmybutt
yeah thats not shady as fuck

Illusionz
Illusionz

@Burnblaze
/tg/thread/54831677#p54840363 →
My list was merely meant to be examples of different negative effects for each tree, according to their sphere. I also think that the amnesia/nullthought zone is better.

Garbage Can Lid
Garbage Can Lid

@Methnerd
God damn it, I would have sworn Amazon listed it as available Aug. 17.

SomethingNew
SomethingNew

@kizzmybutt
Fuck that.

TalkBomber
TalkBomber

@SniperGod
Every class gets specialization for the proficiencies they grant. So everyone gets specialization for basic melee weapons and small arms at level 3.

LuckyDusty
LuckyDusty

@SomethingNew
@AwesomeTucker
You can buy the book, go through the threads collecting all the leaked images yourself, or enjoy your Russian spyware.

lostmypassword
lostmypassword

@AwesomeTucker
@SomethingNew
Hey, it's what was in the thread and my computer hasn't caught fire and exploded, so it'll do until somebody gets their act together and puts up a better one.

PackManBrainlure
PackManBrainlure

@AwesomeTucker
@SomethingNew
Idiots. If you're so scared, virustotal the pdf upon downloading. It's clean.

SniperWish
SniperWish

@askme
Mock some builds and it becomes quite clear. Assuming best available gear of equal character level, with 18 starting Dex, 2 ability increases, and Weapon Focus at 1st level. The level 10 builds assume Weapon Specialisation in the used weapon. These are regular attacks, you can extrapolate with AB penalties and extra attacks for Full Attacks if you wish.

A lvl1 Operative with a Tactical Semi-Auto Pistol will attack with +5/1d6+1d4, if using Trick Attack which also applies a -2 AC to the enemy for flatfooted. 5 average damage, 10 maximum. With Second Skin; EAC 15, KAC 16.
A lvl 1 Soldier with either a Hunting Rifle or Azimuth Laser Rifle (both have the same damage but of different type) will attack with +6/1d8. 4 average damage, 8 maximum. Heavy armor applies a major Dex penalty though, with Golemforged permitting 0 dex bonus and Ceremonial Plate only permitting +2; this hinders your AB and AC, making them +13 EAC and +15 KAC or 14 EAC and 17 KAC respectively.

A lvl 10 Operative with an Elite Semi-Auto Pistol will attack with +13/3d6+5d8+5 with Trick Attack which also applies a -2 AC to the enemy for flatfooted. 28 average damage, 63 maximum. With white carbon skin, 27 EAC and 29 KAC.
A lvl 10 Soldier with a Combat Rifle will attack with +16/3d8+15, using Heavy Fire, but you can augment either your damage by an additional 2 with a Projectile weapon and Bullet Barrage, or your AB by 1 with a Laser weapon and the Laser Accuracy. 29 average Projectile damage, 41 maximum. With specialist Defiance series heavy armor, 27 EAC and 30 KAC; again a max Dex of only +2 caps AB and AC contributions. A Spider Harness Power Armor does give a +5 max Dex bonus, but slightly lower actual armor.

Generally, it seems you're better off with Operative, at the risk of relying on Stealth checks. Heavy armor Soldiers are better suited for melee, with enough Dex to cap the Dex bonus of your armor while using Strength as your attack attribute.

Garbage Can Lid
Garbage Can Lid

@TreeEater
http://paizo.com/paizo/blog/v5748dyo5lk1d?Free-Starfinder-Character-Sheets-Download

They dropped the actual Starfinder sheets yesterday if someone wants to add them to the repository.

Playboyize
Playboyize

Is it finally safe to start a campaign at level 3?

Deadlyinx
Deadlyinx

@Methnerd
Operative does those things better. And you get to be the skill monkey.

Inmate
Inmate

@Playboyize
start it at lvl 2
take risks

PackManBrainlure
PackManBrainlure

@Playboyize
Fuck, meant level 1

Skullbone
Skullbone

Did the first Starfinder AP leak yet?

eGremlin
eGremlin

Tell me about your character, /pgg/? Pathfinder or Starfinder both are good.

Lord_Tryzalot
Lord_Tryzalot

My crush never replied to me.

happy_sad
happy_sad

@Skullbone
@PackManBrainlure
No.

Gigastrength
Gigastrength

What will be the Starfinder Tuvarkz meme? Nodachis aren't in the game after all.

TreeEater
TreeEater

@Lord_Tryzalot
What? That fiend! Who is this crush that refuses to requite your love?

Snarelure
Snarelure

@Lord_Tryzalot
That's because I didn't get your message! Send it again!

DeathDog
DeathDog

@Gigastrength
Devastation Blade.

ZeroReborn
ZeroReborn

I even linked them this thread so they could see it but no, nothing.

TechHater
TechHater

@Gigastrength
The Dueling Sword, probably.

Need_TLC
Need_TLC

@Lord_Tryzalot
aaaaaaaa i want an unrequited love

King_Martha
King_Martha

@SniperWish
Wait, I fucked up. Heavy Weapons are a thing.

Level 1 Soldier should be +6/1d10 with Reaction cannon.
Level 10 Soldier should be +16/2d12+15 with Stellar Cannon and Heavy Fire.

viagrandad
viagrandad

that feeling when I'm making picks

iluvmen
iluvmen

@Snarelure
A new paizo system just came out and you're expecting people to drop discussing it for more pathfinder, which has always been around

Emberburn
Emberburn

@viagrandad
Does it feel that good, Zon-Kuthon?

Flameblow
Flameblow

TR-8R confirmed.

Need_TLC
Need_TLC

@iluvmen
new content comes out, both brand new and for something already existing
wow what a fag hoping for at least the token acknowledgement of the addition to the old thing

Spamalot
Spamalot

@Garbage Can Lid
I'm pretty sure they're releasing the opposition book you actually need to play the game months after the core book comes out entirely because 3.0 did that. Same reason they're still putting rules for making characters before anything that tells you how the game works, what the decisions you're making mean, or even what characters are appropriate for the game.

They're so far up their own assholes and unable to have an original thought they're intentionally reproducing the fuckups of past games.

SomethingNew
SomethingNew

@Need_TLC
I'm just pointing out that expecting everyone to drop the shiny new toys to talk about the ones they've had forever is a bit silly. Give it some time.

Carnalpleasure
Carnalpleasure

@Emberburn
It really doesn't

Emberfire
Emberfire

@eGremlin
She's a 5' plumekith aasimar ex-merc punchgirl! She's joined the party as a favor to a friend who couldn't continue on the journey. She doesn't have a formal education, so she's missing a lot of academic knowledge, but she does know a bunch of languages, so she's helpful as a translator.

TurtleCat
TurtleCat

The "oh you might die in one hit" problem isn't really solved by being level 3. Let's take the most bog standard Orc with a great axe. He's built with the NPC array so he has 18 Str after racial.

He does 1d12+9 damage. Now let's say he crits. That's 3d12+27 damage or average of 42.5 damage on average.

At level 3 a character who is a D8 class with 14 con has 23HP and dies at 37 total damage. Even if he payed his FCB he still on average goes from full HP to perma death in one crit. A D10 character will barely live at a -12 if he spent his FCB. The only real person who is realistically gonna be alive is a raging barbarian at somewhere around -2 HP. Then he stops raging and drops to -8.

So really being level 3 does not save you from a stray crit. Especially for d8 and d6 classes.

RumChicken
RumChicken

@Carnalpleasure
@Emberburn
How's it feel knowing Zon-Kuthon is more associated with Shadows and Darkness than raw Pain?

Zon-Kuthon existing confirms Necromongers, we Riddick now.

CouchChiller
CouchChiller

@King_Martha
Compared to a 20 Strength Soldier, with Weapon Specialisation and Melee Striker: +16/3d10+17

massdebater
massdebater

Anyone else unironically interested in using the Light Armors even as a Soldier?

Fuzzy_Logic
Fuzzy_Logic

@TurtleCat
The "die in one hit" problem at level 1 isn't about a stray crit kill you, it's about a regular fucking hit killing you.

eGremlin
eGremlin

@massdebater
You sort of have to if you want to be anywhere near good at shooting, but then you might aswell just play Operative. Or be a Vesk with Guard for +2 to your armor max dex.

Boy_vs_Girl
Boy_vs_Girl

@eGremlin
You sort of have to if you want to be anywhere near good at shooting

What? Why?

Soft_member
Soft_member

@Boy_vs_Girl
Heavy armors will cap your Dex quite substantially, cutting down on your AB dex contribution to AC until at least level 12 where they start to permit +4 max dex. Even the most agile power armor only permits +5 dex bonus.

Dreamworx
Dreamworx

@RumChicken
It feels like a meme come true.

PackManBrainlure
PackManBrainlure

@Gigastrength
I want to know the SEagle meta or Slow meta desu familia.

BlogWobbles
BlogWobbles

@eGremlin
Lashunta Operative that is a hacker for the robots and wishes she was one. She doesn't own a weapon, but likes to ride her enercycle on the empty surface and do sick jumps cuz of the reduced gravity.

Flameblow
Flameblow

@eGremlin
An Elf Operator that got stuck with the party through circumstance and hates every minute of it... But can't seem to find himself abandoning them.

BunnyJinx
BunnyJinx

I'm not sure how I'd do it but I want to somehow pull off the Kung-fu doctor thing in Starfinder

New_Cliche
New_Cliche

@Flameblow
Does he ever catch himself accusing them of being the traitor race in the heat of an argument?

Raving_Cute
Raving_Cute

Are there any druid variants that summon terrifying aberrant creatures?

Crazy_Nice
Crazy_Nice

@Burnblaze
Protection (Peace) and War (Conflict)
War tends to be more about people helping each other (cooperation) and protection is less about being peaceful and more about keeping things away (exclusion). Protection includes anti-magic fields! So they're still opposites, but for different reasons.

Inmate
Inmate

@New_Cliche
@Flameblow
You... You... DOUBLE TRAITOR

WebTool
WebTool

@Inmate
Look at the way she walks. Just like a traitor.

cum2soon
cum2soon

@New_Cliche
Obviously. They're also all idiots, idiots that need his help, otherwise they'd never get anywhere. Also dead. They're like idiotic pets, really. Idiot, traitorous pets.

Snarelure
Snarelure

Oh boy, friends! I wonder who's gonna get into Intrigue!

BinaryMan
BinaryMan

@Snarelure
The picks will be made with maximizing the pain in mind.

5mileys
5mileys

@WebTool
IT ALL
RETURNS
TO NOTHING

kizzmybutt
kizzmybutt

@Snarelure
DHB will even though his character is objectively garbage.

Dreamworx
Dreamworx

Zealot 6/Wilder 1 or Nightmare Dread 7 into Awakened Blade?

Lord_Tryzalot
Lord_Tryzalot

@kizzmybutt
All 10 living children will be iNTRigued, to maximize the pain.

massdebater
massdebater

@Lord_Tryzalot
All within the first and only session? Impressive.

Gigastrength
Gigastrength

Modern memes are weak. Bring back Rory.

Flameblow
Flameblow

@Gigastrength
I want Elder Memes, like marrying Drow or the bustiest NPC.

SniperGod
SniperGod

@Lord_Tryzalot
have you already decided then

TalkBomber
TalkBomber

@Gigastrength
Why would you want this?

VisualMaster
VisualMaster

@Gigastrength
Idunno, maybe later

BunnyJinx
BunnyJinx

@Flameblow
Good times.

takes2long
takes2long

@Lord_Tryzalot
@BinaryMan
It's time to stop.

1 hour left for apps. Picks will probably come tonight.

Gigastrength
Gigastrength

@takes2long
iNTRig
NTR confirmed?

Skullbone
Skullbone

@Gigastrength
It's always been confirmed.

Firespawn
Firespawn

@Gigastrength
Purely a coincidence :^)

eGremlin
eGremlin

@takes2long
Who's ready to work in the salt mines when they don't get in, accusing the GM of all sorts of shit? I know I am!

Lord_Tryzalot
Lord_Tryzalot

@Crazy_Nice
Gotcha, will make a change while I work on the Tree Map

So how about instead Order and Commotion? Rip off a bit from Bastion?

SomethingNew
SomethingNew

@takes2long
The pain must be maximized.
Is this the new catchphrase for accountants who worship Zon-Kuthon?

w8t4u
w8t4u

>>54842855
>>54842897
You are so desperate for attention aren't you?

SniperGod
SniperGod

>>54842897
spoiler text
Wait what?

Fried_Sushi
Fried_Sushi

@w8t4u
@SniperGod
I've been seeing a lot of posts getting duplicated lately, actually. It might just be a glitch to do with the name field.

Techpill
Techpill

Alrighty everyone. I have created a map with where all te Trees are located. I've tried to align them up in an intelligible way and to make them in locations that make sense for the nations near them using some dumb ley-line maps that I found and co-opted

BlogWobbles
BlogWobbles

@Fried_Sushi
That or a person looks at the post and realizes that the name field still has a name in it and deletes the post.

RumChicken
RumChicken

@Fried_Sushi
Nah, you are just an attentionwhoring faggot.

MPmaster
MPmaster

@BlogWobbles
Possibly. I just assume that people aren't actually that dumb.

w8t4u
w8t4u

@Skullbone
Whatever they are, they are also stated to be the most popular. Makes you think.

Soft_member
Soft_member

@Skullbone
The (Lich's) Apprentice. Instead of an orange yelling "ur fierd" a lich articulates "You're fingered" and casts Finger of Death. You get a single chance at redemption if you survive the initial fingering, but you're not allowed to heal after that.

lostmypassword
lostmypassword

@Techpill

Seems wholly appropriate.

Skullbone
Skullbone

Is Triaxus still a thing in Starfinder? Are there still hairy elves riding good red dragons, fighting evil gold dragons?

King_Martha
King_Martha

@Techpill
Weather and Nature are not aligned properly to be polar to one another

Deadlyinx
Deadlyinx

@Skullbone
Is Triaxus still a thing in Starfinder?
Yes. The iconic Envoy has a Triaxian boyfriend.

Firespawn
Firespawn

@Skullbone
Yes, its now full Shadowrun.

@King_Martha
Read. Weather flies around the equator on a floating island, while Nature is at the center of the earth

SomethingNew
SomethingNew

@Deadlyinx
She loves his fur, which is canonically soft and silken!

SniperGod
SniperGod

@Techpill
And now, here's a website I found which can show a full globe image of the world!

Please note, that unfirtunately the Dark and Light Trees on the poles couldn't show up on this autogenerated globe, and I just found the website so I kdont know how to make them appear

https://www.maptoglobe.com/Hkp4UgaPW

Also, here's an imgur link to a rotating gif. Unfortunately the filesize is too big to be posted here

http://imgur.com/O2KWiRW

Nojokur
Nojokur

@SniperGod
Life and Creation are massive underwater coral trees

Nice.

viagrandad
viagrandad

@SniperGod
You know, for a barebones setting that someone tossed together from a random map in about twenty minutes, people are making some pretty cool stuff for it.

whereismyname
whereismyname

Anyone got a link to Blood of the Sea by chance?

Playboyize
Playboyize

@viagrandad

What's the deity list look like again?

Sharpcharm
Sharpcharm

@viagrandad
I want the Celebrity gods!

RavySnake
RavySnake

@Playboyize

Far as I know, there isn't one. Some people put together a list of various personalities, but that seems super dumb, and I hope someone comes up with something different.

happy_sad
happy_sad

So is there a full PDF of the Starfinder PHB uploaded anywhere yet? Our bastepin for SF is tragically underpopulated

Bidwell
Bidwell

@happy_sad
It's pinned in the Discord, m8:
http://zalil.su/3875211
I uploaded it on a Russian website because the Mega kept getting taken down and Russians don't give a shit about copyright nonsense.

lostmypassword
lostmypassword

High tech future suit custom made for specific body type
Motherfucker still uses rags for leg wrappings

Nojokur
Nojokur

@lostmypassword

I want to take that rat out shopping for some new clothes. They shouldn't have to wear the same things until they're so used and threadbare.

Lord_Tryzalot
Lord_Tryzalot

@lostmypassword
Hey man, sometimes you don't want metal on your more sensitie hairs.

Snarelure
Snarelure

@TreeEater
I only have a rudementary knowledge of solar system building, but what in the literal fuck is this map. Are you telling me there's 5 planets, an asteroid field, and two space stations all in the habitable zone of that star?

Flameblow
Flameblow

@Flameblow
I want to marry Shelyn!

RavySnake
RavySnake

@Snarelure
maps not to scale

CouchChiller
CouchChiller

@Flameblow
You want to marry a pedophile?

VisualMaster
VisualMaster

Every picture I see of Ysoki pisses me off. The Pathfinder ratfolk don't look that terrible, why would SF make them so ugly?

BinaryMan
BinaryMan

@Snarelure
If the star is artificial it could have an adapted output to encompass a larger habitable zone, but it's probably just paizuri incompetence.

Nude_Bikergirl
Nude_Bikergirl

@VisualMaster
Because they're rats! Rats are ugly!

King_Martha
King_Martha

@VisualMaster
The proportions are so retarded. Gigantic heads and teeny tiny limbs. Its like they took the ratfolk, gnomes and halflings and rolled it up into one lolquirky race that ends up more annoying than endearing.

I mean, I guess the vesk make kobolds unpractical but man they really tried to make something unique but ended up with something way more generic than the sum of its parts.

hairygrape
hairygrape

@Nude_Bikergirl

You take that back.

Playboyize
Playboyize

Okay, all this is doing is maximizing my own pain at this point. It's time for picks.

The following character have, or will soon have, received a letter from Elvargian Karvane:
Mycroft Cutting, LE Half-Orc Investigator from Augustana. Affiliated with the White Goose trade company, it is on their behalf he has been sent to Michsbridge - for reasons he is only now starting to realize the truth of.
Embry Winespeckle, NG Human Witch from Michsbridge. Never had she suspected the quiet, friendly Ranger Lenart to have been hiding such secrets, but she's more than happy to help him out in his time of need.
Delnora Algata, NE Elf Investigator/Warlock Vigilante. A scammer and sneak-thief who works as a courier to get her hands on juicy information, she has in fact been tracking Elvargian's communications to his brother Abaric for a long time - and now, has stolen the documents intended for the Karvane Company representative meant to be sent to Michsbridge, impersonating them and going in their stead.
Miri "Dale", LE Aasimar(Halfling) Magus from Ostenso. A slave born into the service of House Henderthane, she has been raised as the perfect secret agent by her masters - after all, nobody would expect a slip to willingly betray their own kind and work for a Chelish noble house - and now, she has been sent by Belphian Henderthane himself to unravel the mysteries of House Karvane's turmoil.
Godefroy Lesarge-Masson, LG Human UCavalier from Laekastel. Previously a mere retainer for House Lesarge, he ended up remarrying into the house after a somewhat scandalous tryst with the Patriarch's daughter, Baroness Elnynaeve - and now, facing threats to the lives of both himself and his children, presumably from the scheming hands of his loving wife's family, he has engineered a way to get himself and his sons out of harms way for a while.

Sessions will be held on Sundays 8PM CET, starting next week, playing on an at-least-biweekly basis.

Thanks to everyone who applied!

WebTool
WebTool

@Playboyize

Congratulations to those who made it, and best wishes to those who didn't.

eGremlin
eGremlin

@Playboyize
NG, LG
NE, LE, LE

That won't end poorly at all.

New_Cliche
New_Cliche

@Playboyize
Only one dude
He's a daddy

Fried_Sushi
Fried_Sushi

@CouchChiller
She isn't a pedophile! She's the perfect woman!

Stark_Naked
Stark_Naked

@New_Cliche
Mycroft is a decently hulking Half-Orc guy.

King_Martha
King_Martha

@Fried_Sushi
But who's the perfect man for the perfect woman?!

SomethingNew
SomethingNew

@King_Martha

John Stamos. Sorry, user.

SniperWish
SniperWish

@iluvmen
@Skullbone
How can no one have mentioned thunderdome?

RumChicken
RumChicken

Can pirates be mages?

DeathDog
DeathDog

@Fried_Sushi
She loves everything. Everything includes children. Loving children is either being a parent, a lovable old man whose own children have gone away and he just longs for the energetic hug of a little boy to give him a reason to love another day to happily share his life stories with the children or pedophiles. Shelyn is not an old man or a parent, so she has to be a pedophile.

AwesomeTucker
AwesomeTucker

@RumChicken
Yes.

haveahappyday
haveahappyday

@DeathDog
Goddess of love
not having children
u wot m8?

takes2long
takes2long

@DeathDog
There are different kinds of Love! Get it together, user!

likme
likme

Kasatha are shit. Can I play a Witchwyrd instead?

Poker_Star
Poker_Star

@Playboyize
Guy that really hates slips
Other party member is a slip
Yeah that will go well

DeathDog
DeathDog

@haveahappyday
Shelyn is a lesbian, the purest love there is. She regularly enjoys the company of Desna and Sarenrae!

Dreamworx
Dreamworx

@DeathDog
There is nothing pure about a PEDOPHILE! WAKE UP, SHEEPLE!

Raving_Cute
Raving_Cute

@DeathDog

You know Cayden's plowed that fertile soil though, user.

Garbage Can Lid
Garbage Can Lid

How do you charm a lady?

w8t4u
w8t4u

@Playboyize
Luci BTFO

lostmypassword
lostmypassword

@Garbage Can Lid
Charm Person with a decent DC.

kizzmybutt
kizzmybutt

@DeathDog
She isn't a lesbian! She's pure! PURE!

Gigastrength
Gigastrength

@DeathDog
@Raving_Cute
Shelyn regularly enjoys being a pure loving wife to Erastil, as well.

Emberfire
Emberfire

@Dreamworx
Sheep are smarter than you'd think.

Goats too.

BunnyJinx
BunnyJinx

@Playboyize
At least SOME of the Discord circlejerk didn't get in.

Harmless_Venom
Harmless_Venom

@Raving_Cute
He isn't nearly suave enough. He's practically a child compared to her.

Boy_vs_Girl
Boy_vs_Girl

@lostmypassword
blame Paizo for not including shoes in the CRB, here's hoping for an Ultimate Equipment so these rabbit people can have shoes

farquit
farquit

@BunnyJinx
Do you care who gets in, or do you just not want them to get in?

happy_sad
happy_sad

@Gigastrength
Dude there's no way Erastil would lower himself to that brocon.

likme
likme

@Harmless_Venom
Doesn't that specifically turn her on more? But it's not that he's not suave; he was suave enough to become a fucking god, but that he's not related to her. That's the catch.

kizzmybutt
kizzmybutt

@Boy_vs_Girl
needing shoes
not having cyberfeet

Methshot
Methshot

@Garbage Can Lid
A good way is to not be a slick slickster who can make a woman wet with a "how you doin'", but being slick is only the start. It gets her attention. The rest of it is to keep her interested in you, but not make it seem like you are a self engrandizing prick. Tell her about yourself, but be always ready to ask about her, listen to her. Making´her laugh puts her at ease, giving you ample opportunities to give her a charming smile or other mannerisms that make you seem attractive. Do not open your pandora's box at the start, no telling about your secret sex dungeon or your fetish for biting the dead skin from an old blister. Do not move close to her at the very start, shuffle slowly. read the mood and be ready to back up if the mood is going sour. As a sort of a way to seal the deal, gently stroke her hand or leg in a non-intrusive manner while you suggest meeting again or leaving the joint. If she playfully retreats and gives a sly "maybe" accompanied by her number or she straight says "yes" then you have struck gold. If she moves away in a more dismissive manner or stops your hand, take the hint and move unto the next target. Rinse and repeat until you reel in a fly girl you can protect from being dissed by gangstas. This of course is not a guarantee of finding love, as there are no rules for falling in love or even charming beyond being a person they find attractive. Smooth talking and being attractive takes you a long way, but do come up short every so often.

Skullbone
Skullbone

@Raving_Cute
The only fertile soil Cayden is confirmed to have plowed was Desna, because Kurgess is their love-child!

Evilember
Evilember

@farquit
The second one. Is that a problem? I don't need a bunch of circlejerkers who play pretend in their stupid Discord getting into every game.

Firespawn
Firespawn

@Gigastrength

user, if a goddess isn't capable of carrying dire bears to term, she has no business trying to be Erastil's wife.

BlogWobbles
BlogWobbles

@kizzmybutt
Yuri is PUREST LOVE.

Fuzzy_Logic
Fuzzy_Logic

@kizzmybutt
shut up nerd!

rabbits don't need cyberfeet, they're already rabbits

Ignoramus
Ignoramus

@Evilember
It just seems stupid. I mean, not wanting them posting their listings if they're just going to pick from the Discord, sure. But just not wanting them to have games just because seems odd. It's your decision, of course. I'm not a cop.

girlDog
girlDog

Psst, hey, kid. Wanna buy some cybernetics?

happy_sad
happy_sad

@Ignoramus
Oh, no, I just hate it when they feign as if they're going to make it a fair application process, then only pick from other people in their Discord. I'm glad at least some of them were left in the dust. It's what they deserve.

haveahappyday
haveahappyday

@kizzmybutt
Starfox

5mileys
5mileys

@Fuzzy_Logic

But user, what if someone steals their feet so they can keep them on a keychain for good luck? They'd certainly need cyberfeet then.

Techpill
Techpill

@Fuzzy_Logic
living creature of flesh
doesn't need cyber feet

Burnblaze
Burnblaze

@happy_sad
waaaaaaaaah

RumChicken
RumChicken

@5mileys
you make a good point for a nerd

@Techpill
ain't no rabbit made of flesh, get out of here

VisualMaster
VisualMaster

@Fuzzy_Logic
They'll need to remove them if they don't want to black out at higher g's

ZeroReborn
ZeroReborn

@Firespawn
Shelyn is a loving, capable, fertile wife with zero problems carrying anything she wants to term.

AwesomeTucker
AwesomeTucker

@Techpill
Their feet are OK.

FastChef
FastChef

@happy_sad
Seemed pretty fair to me. I'm not part of any cabal or anything and don't spam lewds and still got in.
Why so salty?

StrangeWizard
StrangeWizard

@RumChicken
you mean some kind of rabbot?

Raving_Cute
Raving_Cute

IDrive confirms his skulls and shackles post with the mary sue drow avowed

why is he allowed to do this

viagrandad
viagrandad

@happy_sad
Sure sounds like you're angry because you're too much of a hikkineet to talk to the GMs, user.

5mileys
5mileys

@ZeroReborn
Oh please. Has she ever even *looked* at something other than her own brother?

PackManBrainlure
PackManBrainlure

@5mileys
She has looked at a lot of things, and loved a lot of them. That's like...how she works.

Zonk-shelcest is not canon.

Firespawn
Firespawn

Can I turn myself into this in starfinder?

SniperWish
SniperWish

rabbit people straight up have better and luckier feet they don't need cyberfeet when they can already jump high and shit, plus them feet are all sacred for their rabbit people, all they need is a good pair of jordans

Would you replace your dingaling with cyberware? nah dont think so nerd

RavySnake
RavySnake

@PackManBrainlure
I don't mean registered them as things in her field of view, I mean looked at them sexually.

BlogWobbles
BlogWobbles

@PackManBrainlure

Also just because she loves someone or something doesn't mean she'll have sex with it. She's the goddess of love; notably, she *does not have* the lust subdomain. She'll sleep with those who it may help, or who catch her eye in particular, but just because she loves you don't mean she'll sleep with you.

Nojokur
Nojokur

@SniperWish

Perhaps it wasn't consensual.

Harmless_Venom
Harmless_Venom

@Firespawn

Sure, just lose every fight you're in and get shown up by a bald guy.

takes2long
takes2long

@whereismyname
Please?

askme
askme

@SniperWish
MY DINGALING
MY DINGALING
I WANT YOU TO UPGRADE
MY DINGALING

Methnerd
Methnerd

@takes2long
It should be on the archive, possibly in the trove.

BinaryMan
BinaryMan

@Nojokur
that's different son

eggman hit that so hard she needed new limbs afterwards

PurpleCharger
PurpleCharger

@SniperWish
That's an option?!

StrangeWizard
StrangeWizard

@Methnerd
I can't find it unless it's not in the correct Companion subfolder.

Spazyfool
Spazyfool

@Harmless_Venom
I met more in the "can replace some of your limbs with weapons" sense.

Supergrass
Supergrass

@StrangeWizard
Check the archive for Leakanon's uploads then.

Nude_Bikergirl
Nude_Bikergirl

I've read the rulebook up to the Equipment. I haven't posted my thoughts, but I am really getting the D&D 4e vibes from this. It feels like Classes, Items, and even Feats for god's sake have this 4e spin on the game. It all feels like things are based on spec trees instead of being their own unique class.

tfw excited to make Hiryu but now having second thoughts about even playing SF.

Crazy_Nice
Crazy_Nice

@Supergrass
Ty ty

Soft_member
Soft_member

@Firespawn
Wear battlegloves over two mounted quickdraw prosthetic arms equipped with one-handed guns.

Evil_kitten
Evil_kitten

@FastChef
This time it WAS at least somewhat fair, and that's why I'm glad certain idiots that applied didn't get in just because they act cute in the Discord.

lostmypassword
lostmypassword

@Nude_Bikergirl
I dislike things attempting to be organized and well-suited for tabletop gaming
Obviously Paizo failed at copying it, but what do you have against it?

hairygrape
hairygrape

@Nude_Bikergirl

What do you mean?

LuckyDusty
LuckyDusty

@Nude_Bikergirl
you do realize that 4e actually knew what it was doing, yes? While WotC fucked up royally by slaughtering far too many sacred cows, to the point where it didn't actually feel like DnD anymore, 4e was a fairly well balanced game with good support.

If Starfinder feeling like 4e means it also ceases to feel like the bullshit Pathfinder became, I fail to see how that's a problem.

VisualMaster
VisualMaster

What planet is your first character going to be from?

Illusionz
Illusionz

@VisualMaster
Eox. Undead Shirren exoskeleton reporting for duty!

Dreamworx
Dreamworx

@VisualMaster
Golarion, because Starfinder is ass and I'm not playing it.

Crazy_Nice
Crazy_Nice

@Playboyize
1 BIG GREEN
1 literal tavern wench
1 angsty tsundere
1 smol slave girl
1 DADDY KNIGHT

So who's gonna be the first to get some BREEDING action?

MPmaster
MPmaster

@Nude_Bikergirl
don't worry bro it's still the slapped together trash we all love

viagrandad
viagrandad

@Illusionz
Are there rules for playing Eoxian undead? I haven't had a look at the book yet

SomethingNew
SomethingNew

@Crazy_Nice
Tavern wench and BIG GREEN seem like the obvious one.

w8t4u
w8t4u

@LuckyDusty
Right, which is why things were very lackluster and boring as far as a system goes. I didn't expect for Starfinder to be 4e. I expected it to be similar to a tried a tried and true system with new and expansive things.

Sure you can blame it on me for expecting that, but it's the same situation then as 4e had.

askme
askme

@LuckyDusty
Nah don't worry. They don't really seem to be slaughtering THEIR sacred crows, but instead we have to deal with them keeping some of their most retarded ideas across both games.

Deadlyinx
Deadlyinx

@SomethingNew
What about DADDY KNIGHT though? He's even got a bunch of bastard children already, what's to stop him from having more?

Burnblaze
Burnblaze

@SniperWish
Becasue we've all move on Beyond Thunderdome

Emberfire
Emberfire

@w8t4u

How do you mean? I'm not sure what point you're trying to make.

SniperGod
SniperGod

@Evil_kitten
I think you're just salty you didn't get in.
What was your character?

BinaryMan
BinaryMan

@SomethingNew
BIG GREEN seem like the obvious one

FastChef
FastChef

@Deadlyinx
Tavern wench has probably had her fair share of older men, I think a big green softie would be a nice change of pace for a partner.

JunkTop
JunkTop

@SniperGod
I don't think he even made one. He sounds like the kind of salty faggot who just hates on everyone and everything, and wishes /pfg/ games weren't a thing.

CodeBuns
CodeBuns

@SomethingNew
I dunno BIG GREEN seems too classy for a literal wench.

StrangeWizard
StrangeWizard

@Emberfire
The point is that it being 4eish is not a good thing and I nor many other people aren't going to like Starfinder because the system itself and not the things on top of the system.

Ignoramus
Ignoramus

@viagrandad
Hell no, I'm just shitposting about what I want to do while crying into my cup of whisky.

whereismyname
whereismyname

@VisualMaster
Sovyrien

Fried_Sushi
Fried_Sushi

@CodeBuns
That's the point! The wench lures him into her bed and corrupts the noble man.

Booteefool
Booteefool

@Playboyize
/tg/thread/54823906#p54824217
There you go.

King_Martha
King_Martha

@StrangeWizard
Okay. Have fun not playing it, then.

Spamalot
Spamalot

@StrangeWizard

And what do you mean by 4eish?

SomethingNew
SomethingNew

Wait so does /sfg/ actually think the SP and RP system is good?

askme
askme

@Fried_Sushi
He's green Moriarity though. If anything he'll corrupt her.

Deadlyinx
Deadlyinx

@whereismyname
I want to make an Elf too!

Flameblow
Flameblow

@King_Martha
can't take criticism
j-just don't pl-play it
Get a trip so I can filter you dumbass paizodrone.

@Spamalot
Example given in first post. Each class is the same thing with different abilities instead of being incredibly unique and different. This was the same thing that happened in 4e classes.

DeathDog
DeathDog

@Ignoramus
Honestly I dont see the point in playing if I cant play a cyberzombie glamour icon. Curse you, Paizo!

FastChef
FastChef

@Spamalot
Another example that's fairly easy from what I've read so far is feats being very active ability.

Another example is literal item level.

Another example is having an alt currency for different things regarding your party/character.

BunnyJinx
BunnyJinx

@Flameblow

How are they the same thing? What constitutes "unique and different" in your view?

Inmate
Inmate

@DeathDog
There are so many horrible sci-fi abominations I'll never get to play, it almost makes me wish I cared enough to learn and find players for a better system. Almost.

Carnalpleasure
Carnalpleasure

@Flameblow
I'd say the individual Starfinder classes are much more distinct from one another than the core Pathfinder classes tended to be compared to each other. Everyone has some unique mechanic that makes them play a bit differently, even if some end up really janky like Solarian. Every class has at least one talent list so you can run one member of one differently from another.

Sorcerer and Wizard, or Fighter and Barbarian are much less distinct from each other than any two Starfinder classes I like to think.

Sharpcharm
Sharpcharm

@Deadlyinx
What's yours gonna be like, pardner?

RavySnake
RavySnake

@DeathDog

They'll probably be added in a supplement.

LuckyDusty
LuckyDusty

@Flameblow
Get a trip so I can filter you dumbass paizodrone.
You're the one that came here solely to say you weren't going to to play it. The other guy is asking for clarification, but I just don't care; you're simply acting like an asshole.

And it's not criticism, it's just complaining. "I don't like 4e! Starfinder is totally 4e again! I hate it!" that's not criticism, that's complaint. Related, but different. Describe to us which classes are the problem and what you'd do to change them to be more unique.

BinaryMan
BinaryMan

@Sharpcharm
An ambitious thug that sees the collective paranoia and isolationism of the Elven people as a perfect excuse to become a Corsair and leader of his own Wild Hunt.

Nude_Bikergirl
Nude_Bikergirl

@Crazy_Nice
The Tavern Wench is built for breeding.

Garbage Can Lid
Garbage Can Lid

@w8t4u
Good, maybe they'll learn to make a character based on more than "cute".

Soft_member
Soft_member

@Nude_Bikergirl
Breeding a tavern wench

That's like expecting something quality to come out of planting in a gutter.

cum2soon
cum2soon

@BinaryMan

Shit, that'd actually be pretty neat.

Emberfire
Emberfire

@VisualMaster
Ryphorian innawoods country boy with lotsaguns

Flameblow
Flameblow

@StrangeWizard
That feel when robbit

BlogWobbles
BlogWobbles

@Soft_member
Yeah but I bet she's also super easy.

eGremlin
eGremlin

@BlogWobbles
Of course, but at the same time she's probably either infertile or got all the tricks to keep from having a bastard down.

Fuzzy_Logic
Fuzzy_Logic

@w8t4u
Good riddance. Fucker ruined the /pgg/ Discord, doesn't deserve to get into any games.

haveahappyday
haveahappyday

@Fuzzy_Logic
What nonsense is this now?

lostmypassword
lostmypassword

@Emberfire
Triaxians aren't covered as a race, are they?

That said, the setting starts with Triaxus in Winter, so be prepared to be extremely fluffy.

Skullbone
Skullbone

Is it just me or is there no weapon finesse for starfinder?

Evilember
Evilember

@Fuzzy_Logic
an honest to god halfling somehow ruined the /pgg/ Discord

that doesn't sound like Power Word-fag

SniperWish
SniperWish

@Skullbone
There isn't. Operative Weapons get dex to hit automatically.

WebTool
WebTool

@lostmypassword
They actually are. They're not all that great though.
http://www.d20pfsrd.com/races/other-races/more-races/standard-races-1-10-rp/triaxian-10-rp/

BlogWobbles
BlogWobbles

@Skullbone
Operative Weapon Quality.

New_Cliche
New_Cliche

@Evilember
an honest to god halfling
What now?

whereismyname
whereismyname

@Skullbone
Operative weapons let you DEX to hit for free. I don't think there's a way to get DEX to damage but the importance of attribute for damage has been significantly reduced.

Crazy_Nice
Crazy_Nice

@BinaryMan
Reckon mine's gonna shoot a bottle off an Ysoki head at fifty paces with her eyes shut

King_Martha
King_Martha

@Crazy_Nice
Why not hit the bottle and the Ysokai?

Spamalot
Spamalot

@lostmypassword
The actual race is called the "Ryphorians" I believe. I just wanna be a fluffy boy with loads of guns or a space musclegirl

@WebTool
Not all that great
they get a bonus feat at 1st level, +2 CON/WIS

Shit man, that bonus feat isn't all that bad. They'd make really good zen archers

askme
askme

@Spamalot
I want to cuddle up with a space musclegirl covered in white, silken fur!

likme
likme

@Spamalot
They're good, just kind of seem unfocused, and they don't have as many tricks as humans or half-elves. And that fucking Strength penalty kind of hurts for anything but a Druid or a Dexfag.

DeathDog
DeathDog

@Spamalot
@askme
@lostmypassword
Rauuuuuuuuuuuuuuurgwwr!

GoogleCat
GoogleCat

lmao

Ignoramus
Ignoramus

Are there any feats or alternate class abilities to give druid/ranger/paladin companions evolution points?

Raving_Cute
Raving_Cute

@GoogleCat
Calling shit "races" is a shitty fucking meme though. It's literally a made-up word with no clear reasonable definition, neither in fantasy or real life.

girlDog
girlDog

@GoogleCat
Tbh I'm more triggered by the usage of retarded Imperial Units and Fahrenheit in a futuristic space setting.
It upsets me every time I see it.

SomethingNew
SomethingNew

@Playboyize
Wait, DHB actually got into a game?

Shit nibba

cum2soon
cum2soon

@Raving_Cute
a marathon and a 100-yard dash are races though

takes2long
takes2long

@Raving_Cute
Hello /int/

Playboyize
Playboyize

@BlogWobbles
@whereismyname
Its kind of weird that dueling swords aren't operative weapons. I'd have thought that fencer type dudes would be dex fags.

Methshot
Methshot

all these people who want to play Shirren, Ysoki, Humans...
nobody wants to play a big firebreathing spider

Firespawn
Firespawn

@GoogleCat
I mean, he's not wrong.

TalkBomber
TalkBomber

@DeathDog
Pic related is a Winter Triaxian.

RavySnake
RavySnake

@Fuzzy_Logic
Shoo shoo, shitposter-kun.

VisualMaster
VisualMaster

@SomethingNew
He was already in Legacy of Blood and Flame, and he was pretty much a shoo-in for a couple other games but kept dropping out.

CodeBuns
CodeBuns

@girlDog
Fuck imperial.

Seriously. There's a reason only the two most ass-backwards anti-advancement countries on the fucking planet are using it now. Even the ones who came up with it originally threw it out as being retarded.

Stark_Naked
Stark_Naked

@Methshot
be big gross bug
can still operate firearms and spaceships somehow

Get thumbs stinky

Lunatick
Lunatick

@Evilember
Isn't she, like, 6' tall?

farquit
farquit

@Methshot
I very much want this as well, but First Contact racial options aren't quite made correctly. I think it's just a racial ability mod adjustment, though.

SomethingNew
SomethingNew

@Methshot

I'd totally be down for that, but I'm a little reluctant to play a Large race for my first character.

idontknow
idontknow

@Lunatick
I think you're thinking of someone else.

Poker_Star
Poker_Star

@King_Martha
Reckon she might if they're makin' a ruckus

Techpill
Techpill

@Stark_Naked
no hands or basic humanoid shape
monstrous humanoid
Gets me every time.

RavySnake
RavySnake

Draph in Starfinder when?

TurtleCat
TurtleCat

@Crazy_Nice
On that subject...
How do you build the most breedable character?

CodeBuns
CodeBuns

@RavySnake
Never, hopefully.

Nojokur
Nojokur

@Lunatick
That's Luna, not Luci. Luna is okay, Luci is annoying.

Dreamworx
Dreamworx

@likme
@TalkBomber
Give them two different stat adjustments depending on season. +Con/+Wis/-STR for winter, +Dex/+Cha/-WIS for Summer?

@Playboyize
Casimir btfo

kizzmybutt
kizzmybutt

@TalkBomber
Boring

Welp.

Techpill
Techpill

@Nojokur
Sorry, I knew I was getting the two of them confused. One's an attention seeker and one's not, right?

Carnalpleasure
Carnalpleasure

@Nojokur
Luna
okay
I would've disagreed with you a few weeks ago, but I'm starting to understand Luna more.
Luci is often very grating, BUT I bet I could understand her better with time too.
Everyone is someone, and no one is the caricature the thread paints of them.

Evilember
Evilember

@Techpill
Hahaha!

CouchChiller
CouchChiller

@whereismyname
@Skullbone
What are the Operative weapons, anyway? All I'm seeing are Batons.

ZeroReborn
ZeroReborn

@Nojokur
Luna is a massive faggot though.

Nojokur
Nojokur

@CouchChiller
Its really dumb how blunt force weapons are dex based in SF

Raving_Cute
Raving_Cute

@ZeroReborn
Not as much as Luci, though.

Lunatick
Lunatick

@Carnalpleasure
We're few of us fully ourselves on the internet, making it easier to paint us as caricatures without full context.

Evil_kitten
Evil_kitten

@ZeroReborn
*rolls

haveahappyday
haveahappyday

@CouchChiller
Knives and other light things.

Playboyize
Playboyize

@Evilember
@Fuzzy_Logic
/pgg/ Discord
worth anything
It and everyone in it doesn't to burn.

Deadlyinx
Deadlyinx

@haveahappyday
I wanted Dueling Swords to be Operative! This sucks!

Methshot
Methshot

@Nojokur
Luci is also about 6' though.

PackManBrainlure
PackManBrainlure

@TurtleCat
High Constitution and Charisma, at least decent Strength and Dexterity.
Good Fortitude save, low Will save.
Training in some physically-oriented Perform skill.

But really, you can throw all that shit out if you just use character art that catches the thirsty-as-fuck thread's attention.

SniperGod
SniperGod

@Methshot
@Nojokur
@Lunatick
Proof?

StonedTime
StonedTime

@PackManBrainlure
Wouldn't low STR also work though? She doesn't need to be able to resist being bred, after all.

VisualMaster
VisualMaster

@Playboyize
It and everyone in it doesn't to burn.
Sorry?

AwesomeTucker
AwesomeTucker

@Lunatick
Exactly. Even when people annoy me, I try my best to give them a chance, because I probably don't have the full picture. It's important to be fair and allow the opportunity to learn more about them before passing a binding judgment.

Be kind to everyone you meet, for they are each fighting a difficult battle.

Stupidasole
Stupidasole

@StonedTime
You don't have to physically overpower her, just weaken or otherwise debuff her. Naturally above-average Strength is better for the resultant offspring.

Fried_Sushi
Fried_Sushi

@AwesomeTucker
You sound like a faggot.

Garbage Can Lid
Garbage Can Lid

@SniperGod
I just remember her mentioning it once.

Booteefool
Booteefool

@Nojokur

How do you mean?

viagrandad
viagrandad

@Booteefool
We wanted swords.

happy_sad
happy_sad

@AwesomeTucker
You're a fag, but you're a good fag.

5mileys
5mileys

@Fried_Sushi
Oh no! Never heard that one before. What will I do?!

Evilember
Evilember

Starfinder.5 Edition when?

/pfg/ rewrite of Starfinder when?

TechHater
TechHater

@Stupidasole
Good point. What is the best race to breed, though? While it's not necessarily the most optimal numbers-wise, a high-ranking drow noble turned into a broodmare is a very nice idea to work with.

Sir_Gallonhead
Sir_Gallonhead

@TechHater
What is the best race to breed, though?

One that produces good offspring, and often. While Elves and Drow are ideal for producing half-elves, conception is difficult with them. Therefore, I'd suggest Aasimar.

girlDog
girlDog

@viagrandad
You don't need anything other than the Curve Blade. Katanas finally got the statblock they deserve in the dimension slice version!

Evil_kitten
Evil_kitten

@Evilember
Starfinder rewrite
Some other God becomes the vassal of humanity. Given the setting Abadar seems to be the most appropriate.

Really fucking surprising since Iomedae is one of the most hated deities so I see very little reason why they chose to pick her other than to appeal to the PC crowd.

5mileys
5mileys

@girlDog
Curved Blades are Operative Weapons?!

askme
askme

@Evil_kitten
They don't need any other reason than that, user.

I suggest Erastil should be the new patron of all of mankind.

Bidwell
Bidwell

@TechHater
Elves have neither the proper hips nor enough Constitution to be broodmothers. And drow have evolved to have their babies kill each other in the womb.

What you want is an aasimar or a tiefling. They're fecund, strong, alchemical contraceptives don't work on them, and they're photogenic to boot. If you take an aasimar, find yourself either an agathion- or angel-blooded, while if you prefer a tiefling, you'll want demon-spawn or kyton-spawn. They make excellent breeders, both as child-bearers and as studs.

Poker_Star
Poker_Star

@TechHater
breed the drow cow

do it now

Methshot
Methshot

@5mileys
No, but who cares about any of the other weapons? They don't matter.

Carnalpleasure
Carnalpleasure

@Evil_kitten
Guaranteed someone in their offices pretends that the hate is over Iomedae being a woman.

Sharpcharm
Sharpcharm

@TechHater
Drow tire too easily. You'd need to enslave a six-pack of drow ladies to get the results you'd expect from one human woman.

Evilember
Evilember

@Evil_kitten
You know, it just hit me that Iomedae might be involved with the Pathfinder/Starfinder society.

They cover up the mess TOGETHER but Iomedae works it out so she gets promoted despite losing an entire planet

Flameblow
Flameblow

@Evil_kitten
She isn't hated. Your shitty memes don't count, and nothing about Shining Crusades against dark powers and wicked forces really screams pandering, idiot.
Like, no healthy-minded person can honestly say "I'm upset about heroic heroes saving the world from death and destruction." That would make you a fucking loony.

SniperGod
SniperGod

@askme

I'd like that too, and frankly, it makes sense (he was the guy who taught early man how to survive and thrive in the wilderness), but he is definitely an old school god, and doesn't really fit into sci-fi all that well, especially since his pioneer/frontiersman schtick got co-opted by that one bug goddess.

RavySnake
RavySnake

@Sharpcharm
Her vagina angers me.

JunkTop
JunkTop

@SniperGod
What if he and the bug goddess got married, user?

PurpleCharger
PurpleCharger

@kizzmybutt
THIS is a Triaxian.

StrangeWizard
StrangeWizard

@Flameblow
no healthy-minded person can honestly say "I'm upset about heroic heroes saving the world from death and destruction."
Unless you're a George Martin fanboy. Or a Gen Urobuchi fanboy.

New_Cliche
New_Cliche

You will never get into a /pfg/ Starfinder campaign

Stark_Naked
Stark_Naked

@RavySnake
Why don't you just give it a spanking then?

Raving_Cute
Raving_Cute

@PurpleCharger
That triaxian is a dragon's whore!

No, seriously, she is a consort to a dragon.

Sir_Gallonhead
Sir_Gallonhead

@StrangeWizard
Then you deserve disappointment.

Methnerd
Methnerd

@Raving_Cute
That's also what they look like. Weird furred elves.

Ignoramus
Ignoramus

@Methnerd
Yeti elves?

MPmaster
MPmaster

How 80s are you going to make your Starfinder campaign?

King_Martha
King_Martha

@New_Cliche
Is this... are you trying to express here?

takes2long
takes2long

@Ignoramus
Basically yes, yeti elves with GUNS and DRAGON COPILOTS in the future

idontknow
idontknow

@King_Martha
What are you trying to express, rather. Words are difficult.

Poker_Star
Poker_Star

@MPmaster
What do you mean here?

With an actual 80s aesthetic, or with the aesthetic that people in the 80s thought of as scifi?

WebTool
WebTool

@Poker_Star
Either or!

FastChef
FastChef

@King_Martha
@idontknow
Uhh, I thought it was obvious? You'll never get into a Starfinder campaign advertised here!

CodeBuns
CodeBuns

@Carnalpleasure
Well, sorry if I am grating, user. You're free to contact me and talk to me about how I could be less grating.

Booteefool
Booteefool

@Poker_Star
@TechHater
The only appealing thing about turning a haughty drow into a breeding sow is that you're dragging someone refined and powerful down to rock bottom. Once you're past the point where she's shrieking about how you're just a vulgar animal and she'll have her revenge, and you've progressed to the point where she can barely even remember her own name, let alone that she used to hate you, it's no fun anymore.

SomethingNew
SomethingNew

@SniperGod
Actually in some ways its perfect.

He's the god of a species that's grown beyond their homeworld.

Basically, as humanity's god, he'd be like the dad so many people don't call nearly often enough once they're in college because he's old and what do communities and survival have to do with space anyways? (oh wait)

5mileys
5mileys

@Poker_Star
Why not go for a bovine-based Agathion-blooded Aasimar, a literal holy cow?

Carnalpleasure
Carnalpleasure

@MPmaster
Depends. Retrofuture is fun, but what I REALLY want is Spelljammer. Or WILDSPACE.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UHGz5r-b1do

Skullbone
Skullbone

@FastChef
Is this supposed to be mocking or just a random fun fact?

Ignoramus
Ignoramus

@Skullbone
Both

Dreamworx
Dreamworx

@Booteefool
any type of slave with an attitude is fun messing with. Drow are just the things that are already prefluffed to be said haughty slaves but other races can also suffice.

Raving_Cute
Raving_Cute

@CodeBuns
Honestly, I think I'm just jaded. All you are is excited. I used to be excited.
Don't ever lose the spark that lets you be happy, you hear me?

Sir_Gallonhead
Sir_Gallonhead

@SomethingNew
So is Hylax the fling he goes after now that he's got more time and less responsibilities?

MPmaster
MPmaster

@Ignoramus
Oh, okay. DAMN YOU FOR MOCKING MY PAAAAAAAAIN!

girlDog
girlDog

@Raving_Cute
Okay, I won't.

haveahappyday
haveahappyday

@Carnalpleasure
Isn't that what Aethera is supposed to be?

5mileys
5mileys

@Raving_Cute
Not otherwise involved in this conversation, but

you can get that spark back, user. Numbness sucks, but it doesn't have to be the end.

Bidwell
Bidwell

@Raving_Cute
spark
Transformer detected

massdebater
massdebater

@Sir_Gallonhead
Hylax actually has a physical form in the setting, she's set up shop on one of the Gas Giants and is the centerpiece of a sort of tourist mecca for the Shirren.

likme
likme

@SomethingNew
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=7OqwKfgLaeA
But we'll get together then
You know we'll have a good time then

Evilember
Evilember

@haveahappyday
I dunno what Aethera is.

DeathDog
DeathDog

@5mileys
yes please

ZeroReborn
ZeroReborn

@SomethingNew
https://youtu.be/0jyVZNrWkow

Supergrass
Supergrass

@Dreamworx
True. It's the same reason you'd want to turn Queen Thrune into your personal baby-factory, rather than just some random sexpot sorceress.

Need_TLC
Need_TLC

@MPmaster
Like 500 80s

takes2long
takes2long

So wait, I think I'm missing something.

Is there *any* monetary investment involved with your ship in SF?

Because if not, that's the first thing I'm home ruling in.

TalkBomber
TalkBomber

Let's pretend Bones and Bed Shackles isn't a bamboozle.
Who would be your ideal four-person party for it?

GoogleCat
GoogleCat

@TalkBomber
Sharktits, Charlotte, Trissara and Luculeia.

Purely because they're the chestiest girls.

Fuzzy_Logic
Fuzzy_Logic

@TalkBomber
All of the squid people.

Snarelure
Snarelure

@TalkBomber
Evelia and Luculeia are my current front runners. Don't really have many favorites beyond them.

Evilember
Evilember

@TalkBomber
Tomas, Rekina, Luculeia, and either Khelana or Vasad.

TurtleCat
TurtleCat

@Snarelure
Spooky, please. You're supposed to be impartial until the very end.

VisualMaster
VisualMaster

@GoogleCat
@Snarelure
@Evilember
tfw your character isn't memed about at all

JunkTop
JunkTop

@TalkBomber
I want Raimi to either get in or get given a cameo.
Because fuck, that bird has suffered enough.

CodeBuns
CodeBuns

@VisualMaster
Do they have great honking tits and a slutty disposition?

Stupidasole
Stupidasole

@CodeBuns
Kind of! But since they're not being memed about, doesn't that mean I just have to make my writing better?

Lunatick
Lunatick

@Stupidasole
doesn't that mean I just have to make my writing better?

Yes, it also means you need to find better titty monster art and slip some Night Tea into their inventory.

SomethingNew
SomethingNew

@Lunatick
But what if Night Tea has no effect on them because they're weird?

iluvmen
iluvmen

@SomethingNew
Then get some Bachelor's Snuff and encourage your partners to do lines of it off your cleavage or ass!

Deadlyinx
Deadlyinx

@iluvmen
What if their desired partners are immune to it as well?

Techpill
Techpill

@iluvmen
But octopi have no ass!

Carnalpleasure
Carnalpleasure

@SomethingNew
It's about sending a message, silly. Your character shouldn't even have enough int to know it doesn't work.

StonedTime
StonedTime

@TurtleCat
Not actually spooky. I'm the one that needs to finish their damn app for S&S already.

@VisualMaster
I usually take this as a good thing. Meme's are talked about, but only a few tend to make it into the game. There are exceptions but generally that is true.

The real trick is to cater to the GM.
Sending them a message about your character and how you can work together to improve it is usually a GM turn on. The GM's that don't like doing this I tend to have bad experience's with.

PurpleCharger
PurpleCharger

@TalkBomber
It'd need at least one man, but there's a shortage of good ones. The closest things to a decent male app are Vasad, who seems designed to be resistant to sex, and that fucking potoo.

GoogleCat
GoogleCat

@Deadlyinx
Then I guess you'll just have to roll the dice and see if it sticks.

@Techpill
Cleavage, then!

Crazy_Nice
Crazy_Nice

@PurpleCharger
that fucking potoo

I wish Rory didn't bamboozle so he could've picked the shittiest meme apps for TSS and we would never have to deal with Raimi

SomethingNew
SomethingNew

@PurpleCharger
but there's a shortage of good ones
This, though the GM could just use this game to establish their own ERP harem.

PackManBrainlure
PackManBrainlure

@PurpleCharger
Tomas is actually pretty good. But Sleep's a shitter.

Burnblaze
Burnblaze

Sometimes I cry when my apps aren't chosen. Is that normal?

SniperGod
SniperGod

Never played pathfinder, but played dnd 5e. I'm not autistic about the rules and neither is the dm so in b4 5e sucks.

I need a level 5 character for a game I've been invited to tomorrow.
Can i have some links or guidance on how they differ and how to throw together a character?

CodeBuns
CodeBuns

@SniperGod
5e sucks.

Pfsrd will be your friend. Any idea of the party composition?

Fuzzy_Logic
Fuzzy_Logic

@Burnblaze
Of course, rejection hurts regardless of the source!

Dreamworx
Dreamworx

@Burnblaze
Me too, user. Me too. It's not normal, but who says we have to be normal?

Garbage Can Lid
Garbage Can Lid

New thread

/tg/thread/54846775#p54846775
/tg/thread/54846775#p54846775
/tg/thread/54846775#p54846775
/tg/thread/54846775#p54846775
/tg/thread/54846775#p54846775
/tg/thread/54846775#p54846775

Crazy_Nice
Crazy_Nice

@Fuzzy_Logic
Should I stop applying? Maybe I'm just not good at this game.

Sir_Gallonhead
Sir_Gallonhead

@CodeBuns
It's a one shot so it doesn't matter too much.
I don't want to do magic though I know that.

SomethingNew
SomethingNew

@Crazy_Nice
You're probably better than most.

w8t4u
w8t4u

@Dreamworx
I guess you're right! Thanks, and sorry you got rejected too.

askme
askme

@PurpleCharger

Well satan+1 digit, IDrive's duo-apping with himself and half of it's a dude.

hairygrape
hairygrape

@Crazy_Nice
Worst on /pfg/ still makes you a Guaranteed Pick for most Roll20 campaigns.

Gigastrength
Gigastrength

@PackManBrainlure
Tomas would get by on his art, but I don't think there's enough women still hungry for games to push him into the limelight.

SniperGod
SniperGod

@Sir_Gallonhead
Zen Archer's a pretty easy pick-up class, I think. Or a barbarian. Look them up on pfsrd to see if you like either of them.

JunkTop
JunkTop

@Gigastrength
Tomas is just a shameless dick delivery system. In a way, he's even more insulting than an obvious joke app.

Ignoramus
Ignoramus

@SomethingNew
I dunno about all that, a lot of the applications are really good!
@hairygrape
Maybe I'll try that. Thanks for the advice!

takes2long
takes2long

@Sir_Gallonhead
What kind of thing do you want to do in combat? Hit hard and get hit hard? Fancy duelist type? Sneaky stabby? Monk?

CouchChiller
CouchChiller

@Gigastrength
I'd let him plunder my booty.

BunnyJinx
BunnyJinx

@takes2long
I've done archery in dnd so something else preferably.

girlDog
girlDog

@BunnyJinx
Alright, that still leaves plenty of options. Figure out what kind of combat style you want to go for and ask about it in the next thread, and some people might be able to give pointers.

Soft_member
Soft_member

I lost the url of the preceding image, can someone link me ? Thanks to anyone willing to help.

Poker_Star
Poker_Star

@takes2long
No. They wanted to avoid that after realizing they'd been gutting the ship system into a bare-bones optional "most campaigns will never touch this anyways" that any sort of financial touch would simply mean selling everything for even more gear to break WBL.

PackManBrainlure
PackManBrainlure

@Soft_member

http://bc-draws.tumblr.com/image/143549738807

This the one?

Boy_vs_Girl
Boy_vs_Girl

@PackManBrainlure
Yes, thank you. I don't suppose he drew anymore lewds, did he ? I watch his tumblr but he doesn't seem to be ready for it yet and he didn't even link this one there, only on /pfg/.

askme
askme

@Boy_vs_Girl

Not that I've seen. He doesn't seem keen on that sort of thing, generally speaking.

Sir_Gallonhead
Sir_Gallonhead

@askme
Considering his recent statements I don't think he minds, he just doesn't want to get reduced another tits drawfag on tumbr" which is understandable.

Still, I really like Elsbeth and his drawstyle, which makes me want to see more lewds from him. I won't pressure the guy and will respect what he wants to do though.

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