Warhammer 40,000 General /40kg/

Poker_Star
Poker_Star

Iron Warriors Edition

Hilarious™ Mortarion Reveal, also some terminators and stuff
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eJMu9G7Pyw8

Konor Campaign: Chaos Losing again...
https://konor.warhammer40000.com/

Check your local store's contribution to the Campaign.
https://warhammer40000.com/fate-konor-galaxy-flames/

GW FAQ (1.1):
https://www.warhammer-community.com/2017/07/23/updated-faqs-and-boots-on-the-groundgw-homepage-post-2/
FW FAQ (1.1):
https://www.warhammer-community.com/2017/07/15/new-and-updated-forge-world-faqs-july16gw-homepage-post-2/
Codex: Space Marines FAQ
https://www.warhammer-community.com/2017/08/10/codex-space-marines-errata-now-available/

Rules and such. Use Readium on pc/iphone, lithium/kobo on android:
Everything 8th edition in pdf & epub, SW:A, WIP and BB are here too, no novels.
https://mega.nz/#F!64wmnBZR!rWcm37EkOOeToeueqhPjpA

Other Megas
https://mega.nz/#F!BxI1HSgI!0tKymKh9RZTzGpgIA5EyCg
https://mega.nz/#F!9NchGZyZ!-V1LhJALxDp9Tw97WzEQGA
https://mega.nz/#F!pFgm0RKR!J06C1gVYcjzNGsF8YNLsjQ

WIP Math-hammer doc (Chart-Anon doing Chaos' work)
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1h0hk_IdJ7fivDEjMiIpKM5yMMB8HTm64lZHuKdLZCIU/edit?usp=sharing

All urls found in this thread:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eJMu9G7Pyw8
https://konor.warhammer40000.com/
https://warhammer40000.com/fate-konor-galaxy-flames/
https://www.warhammer-community.com/2017/07/23/updated-faqs-and-boots-on-the-groundgw-homepage-post-2/
https://www.warhammer-community.com/2017/07/15/new-and-updated-forge-world-faqs-july16gw-homepage-post-2/
https://www.warhammer-community.com/2017/08/10/codex-space-marines-errata-now-available/
https://mega.nz/#F!64wmnBZR!rWcm37EkOOeToeueqhPjpA
https://mega.nz/#F!BxI1HSgI!0tKymKh9RZTzGpgIA5EyCg
https://mega.nz/#F!9NchGZyZ!-V1LhJALxDp9Tw97WzEQGA
https://mega.nz/#F!pFgm0RKR!J06C1gVYcjzNGsF8YNLsjQ
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1h0hk_IdJ7fivDEjMiIpKM5yMMB8HTm64lZHuKdLZCIU/edit?usp=sharing
https://ufile.io/r9nvl
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b0AyQiCHfng
https://www.warhammer-community.com/2017/08/09/new-matched-play-rules-in-chapter-approved-aug-9gw-homepage-post-1/
https://strawpoll.com/kfb2zpk9
https://strawpoll.com/kfb2zpk9
https://strawpoll.com/kfb2zpk9
https://sendit.cloud/518a1k3hgjxt
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mRP4G8w0tig
http://natfka.blogspot.com/2017/08/astra-militarum-steel-legion-release.html
https://sendit.cloud/hnxk9u79l70p
BlogWobbles
BlogWobbles

First for slaanesh

ZeroReborn
ZeroReborn

@Poker_Star
First for Dusk Raiders

FastChef
FastChef

first to worship slaanesh

GoogleCat
GoogleCat

First for hazard stripes.

Dreamworx
Dreamworx

@BlogWobbles
id be mad I lost first but I aint even mad

Stark_Naked
Stark_Naked

This is now a slaanesh thread

Raving_Cute
Raving_Cute

@eGremlin
Stop.
Ruining.
My.
Day.

Nude_Bikergirl
Nude_Bikergirl

Nth for zerkers still Troops

Booteefool
Booteefool

/tg/thread/54839940#p54841927

From last thread, the user who posted the font file to fix the CSM dex, that same file doesn't appear to fix the GK dex. Do you happen to have the font fix for the GK dex? Or could someone repair the files and upload them to the mega?

Harmless_Venom
Harmless_Venom

Inspiration for dude last thread who assume making a table was hard
/tg/thread/54839940#p54843463 #
Where? I was thinking of having the skulls in lava but I don't know how to do.

/tg/thread/54839940#p54843453 #
Moonscapeish
I plan on justifying our janky ass aquarium terrain and infinity cardboard by saying that some other Dynasty fucked with Trazyn's collection via tesseracts or some shit and some of it vomitted into realspace here. Hence everyone scrambled to investigate.
/tg/thread/54839940#p54843456 #
Two and a half, and a pot of Dawnstone, a pot of white scar, and a good bit of Nuln oil.

Boy_vs_Girl
Boy_vs_Girl

@Poker_Star

How long does it usually take for books to appear on the mega? I really want to read the new ADB book.

King_Martha
King_Martha

@Dreamworx
gotcha covered bro

@ZeroReborn
gotta get that <quicksilver Swiftness> bro

Spamalot
Spamalot

@Stark_Naked
im ok with this

girlDog
girlDog

Who /StillDoesn'tOwnATable/ here?

viagrandad
viagrandad

First 10 posts are about Chaos.

How about that?

cum2soon
cum2soon

@Raving_Cute
I'm just simulating the butcher's nails for you.

massdebater
massdebater

Alright once and for all:
Index Chaos allows a World Eater army to take Berserkers as Troop choices.

Can this be combined with the Codex rules

Note the Berserkers are elites unless taken in a World Eaters detachment.

Why or why not?

lostmypassword
lostmypassword

@Nude_Bikergirl
Where is this called out in the new codex? Didn't see it anywhere.

kizzmybutt
kizzmybutt

@Poker_Star
This pic is great, but, we can't use thunder hammers?

Poker_Star
Poker_Star

@eGremlin
They are if you use the Index datasheet.

Playboyize
Playboyize

@FastChef
whoa mama

PackManBrainlure
PackManBrainlure

@Harmless_Venom
good bit of Nuln oil
Wasting nuln oil on terrain

Carnalpleasure
Carnalpleasure

Nth for chaos players don't even know their own fluff

Burnblaze
Burnblaze

How does one zoom in this shit?

Emberburn
Emberburn

@Boy_vs_Girl
no one has even leaked it.

@Poker_Star
Why don't I just use 3.5 while I'm at it.

Evilember
Evilember

@massdebater
#ASKGW
Because anything we tell you, you'll keep asking until we give you the answer you like.

RumChicken
RumChicken

Is MSU dead or not?

I keep on seeing people recommend units at min or max strength and it's frankly kinda confusing.

StonedTime
StonedTime

@massdebater
Yes because Index entries that don't appear in the Codex are still valid, and there is a Troop Berzerkers entry in the Index.

VisualMaster
VisualMaster

this is one of the best depictions of a daemonette IMO

Stupidasole
Stupidasole

@Emberburn
Different edition, and GW said Index datasheets not in the codex are still valid.

Dreamworx
Dreamworx

@PackManBrainlure
But it was on skuuuuuullllllssssss.
Plus I applied it and my drybrush to the beat of a live performance of Mr. Blue Sky

Stark_Naked
Stark_Naked

@Burnblaze
like this

Raving_Cute
Raving_Cute

How's this for Babby's First Dark Eldar list?

Archon - Blaster/Huskblade - 79pts
Court of the Archon - Lhamean/Ur-ghul/Sslyth/Medusae - 134pts
Venom - Splinter Cannon - 95pts

Kabalite Warriors x10- Blaster/Dark Lance/Blast Pistol/Agonizer - 119pts
Raider - Dark Lance - 115pts

Kabalite Warriors x10- Blaster/Dark Lance/Blast Pistol/Agonizer - 119pts
Raider - Dark Lance - 115pts

Hellions x5 - Stunclaw - 92pts
Reavers x3- Blaster - 105pts

TOTAL: 973pts/1000pts.

Harmless_Venom
Harmless_Venom

can someone explain how this absolute bullshittery is possible, how the fuck can thousand sons teleport a planet?

Lord_Tryzalot
Lord_Tryzalot

@PackManBrainlure
I've been through at least a dozen pots (large ones) of a graz on terrain in the last year.

Evil_kitten
Evil_kitten

@Harmless_Venom
Magic.

haveahappyday
haveahappyday

@Harmless_Venom
its magnus I don't gotta explain shit.scroll

SomethingNew
SomethingNew

@Raving_Cute
10/10 would eat the souls of

cum2soon
cum2soon

@Harmless_Venom
A wizard did it

askme
askme

It's 23:03

massdebater
massdebater

So is it true that imperial guard and Orks are up next for codex releases?

idontknow
idontknow

@Emberburn
Why don't I just use 3.5 while I'm at it.
That's right, why don't you? I still have a combination in the 3.5 codex that can break 7th Ed, going by RAW. Tzeentch spell that hands out 50*D6 Victory Points bitches!

Poker_Star
Poker_Star

@RumChicken
MSU will be better once they change the way first turn is achieved.

Its a tight balance between extra Sgt./Special Weapons, Stratagems Psychic powersm morale fucking up units with big losses and of course how many drops your army has in deployment.

Honestly it depends on what youre doing

Gigastrength
Gigastrength

@Harmless_Venom
because deep strike does not scatter anymore.

Skullbone
Skullbone

@RumChicken
Depends on the army. GKs should always be in the smallest unit sizes for maximum SMITE. Other armies, not so much.

TurtleCat
TurtleCat

@Poker_Star

Chaos losing, again

Ffs, you guys were fucking beating the crap out of everyone while you were still loyalist legions. What the fuck happened in the 10k years since the Horus Heresy that now you can't fucking win a battle if you tripped into a victory?

BlogWobbles
BlogWobbles

@Poker_Star

R8 my warband scheme.

It's glossy dark/brown red and very pale bronze.

I think it can look good with god-specific marines as well

LuckyDusty
LuckyDusty

@Dreamworx
@Lord_Tryzalot
NO EXCUSES
TOO EXPENSIVE
BUY BUY BUY, THAT'S ALL IT IS WITH YOU

Fuzzy_Logic
Fuzzy_Logic

TFW you wish that Word Bearers get some new content in the Chaos codex.

While there are a lot of pretty cool legion rules, I think the Word Bearers got shafted pretty hard. A minor bonus to morale is nothing compared to most of the other legion rules. It's pretty bad when the most exciting rule they get is '+3" to all aura abilities on the warlord.' Summoning is nowhere near as strong as it used to be, and while I think that's overall a good thing, it really hurts that their legion-specific stratagem interacts with a pretty lackluster part of the chaos rules.

Need_TLC
Need_TLC

@TurtleCat
Constant in-fighting and going full retard on chaos.

Crazy_Nice
Crazy_Nice

@TurtleCat

I mean, the only two of yall that even remotely has their shit together is the Black Legion and the Word Bearers.

Booteefool
Booteefool

@Poker_Star

post yfw Steel Legion plastics

Boy_vs_Girl
Boy_vs_Girl

@BlogWobbles
not BRIGHT ENOUGH

Spamalot
Spamalot

@Fuzzy_Logic
have faith word bearer

girlDog
girlDog

@Nude_Bikergirl
@eGremlin
Fixed it guys!

likme
likme

@Boy_vs_Girl

But it will be very glossy

hairygrape
hairygrape

Question: How difficult is it to get one of the AoS Liberator heads onto a human torso (Guard, Skitarii, etc.)? I want to use trimmed-down versions of them for a "faceless" Renegade Guard army.

Burnblaze
Burnblaze

@VisualMaster
looks like shit, i miss the older booby ettes and the new ones look like ugly angry bitches

Flameblow
Flameblow

@hairygrape
IT IS BEYOND YOUR COMPREHENSION

SniperGod
SniperGod

@Burnblaze
I said one of my favourite

RumChicken
RumChicken

@Dreamworx
That's one squished corset. Look only works if you have big tits desu.

AwesomeTucker
AwesomeTucker

@SniperGod
thank you friend

FastChef
FastChef

@Flameblow
Really? Because I honestly want to do it.

Oh well.

GoogleCat
GoogleCat

@Need_TLC

Or maybe they didn't go *enough* to chaos?

I mean I still see a lot of Marines that are, more or less, very similar to how they looked during the Heresy. And we also know the Possessed Word Bearers beat the fuck out of the Custodes sent to watch them on their little picnic to the Eye of Terror

StrangeWizard
StrangeWizard

@PackManBrainlure
Shit, Hulkbuster does look like something between a Terminator and a Dreadnought.

Ignoramus
Ignoramus

@BlogWobbles

Loyalist version as well

Stupidasole
Stupidasole

@Fuzzy_Logic

What did you wish they got?

Lunatick
Lunatick

@Harmless_Venom
Malcador did it, and Magnus is on his tier.

tfw all the strongest psykers are humans and not eldar

Crazy_Nice
Crazy_Nice

@GoogleCat
not realising gal vorbak are superior to all other possessed for "reasons".

Spamalot
Spamalot

@Stupidasole
Not him, but maybe some better Possessed would be appropriate.

Soft_member
Soft_member

@Poker_Star
But IW can't take Thunder Hammers

w8t4u
w8t4u

@Lunatick
Eldar rested on their laurels and the smug belief that they were always already the best at everything ever.

likme
likme

@TurtleCat
We lost our drop pods
And our land speeders
And apparently our relic Terminator Armor? WTF

In exchange for being mutated at random into senseless monsters

Playboyize
Playboyize

With release of Primarchs all Xeno races have become NPC tier.

Gigastrength
Gigastrength

@w8t4u
Sounds like the Imperium as of 40k LUL

Deadlyinx
Deadlyinx

Today I learned:

Possessed aren't chaff or as dismissed as Spawn, it's actually a difficult thing to become possessed and it really does make them pretty elite.

PackManBrainlure
PackManBrainlure

@Booteefool
Alright, I got it working (I think). You'll need to replace both the fonts folder and the CSS folder.

https://ufile.io/r9nvl

Snarelure
Snarelure

@Soft_member
Take Power Fist
use Command Rerolls to make your damage rolls 3s

Evilember
Evilember

@Deadlyinx
What's their stat block look like?

RavySnake
RavySnake

@VisualMaster
@Burnblaze
I actually really like all of the old codex art

DeathDog
DeathDog

@Snarelure
Spending CP to POTENTIALLY be as effective as TH
no ty
@Evilember
Marine, but S5 and now 2W in the codex

BinaryMan
BinaryMan

@massdebater

probably not the next ,since Chaos still hasn't had all their time in the sun. Expect more marines and emo marines first, then orks x IG in the wave after that.

PurpleCharger
PurpleCharger

@girlDog
Technically me, sold mine when i moved so now I can make some new ones

Sir_Gallonhead
Sir_Gallonhead

Any advice on doing Emperor's Children? I really just want to do up an army in pink and purple and I've got like 4 loyalist armies.

viagrandad
viagrandad

@Harmless_Venom
At least they have the excuse of psychic bullshittery., hasn't the admech shifted some planets and moons and shit

SomethingNew
SomethingNew

@Evilember
@DeathDog
Also 5++ invuln.

And they move 7".

S5, AP-2 attacks.

Their attacks are D3 for the whole unit. So if your unit rolls a 5, every model has 3 attacks. If you roll a 2, every model has 1.

I'm a big fan of their fluff and stats. Not so much models sadly. And don't you shove your FW shit in my mouth, not buying it.

likme
likme

Blood Angels are such a meme army.

Death Company is fucking useless.

Methnerd
Methnerd

@SomethingNew
Im pissed GW stopped making the Forsaken box from fantasy

Those bits and the Primaris = Hulking mutants

Burnblaze
Burnblaze

@SniperGod
all fair, i just dont like the way they are trying to turn all of slaanesh into these ugly horrors when they are supposed to also represent beauty in excess.

TalkBomber
TalkBomber

@DeathDog
Spending CP to POTENTIALLY be as effective as TH
no ty
IT'S THE PRINCIPLE OF THE THING

AwesomeTucker
AwesomeTucker

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b0AyQiCHfng

How could they do this to Dawn of War III? I am looking at reviews and gameplay and it doesn't make any sense..

FastChef
FastChef

@likme
it's okay, they are turning to chaos soon any way and will get shat on

GoogleCat
GoogleCat

@girlDog
Me, I always wanted to do a Mechanicus Island Base board but that would be a PITA to design and build so I could rearrange it and also would be expensive in terms of boxes of Sector Mech.

I may just make a bogstandard 6x4 at some point though, now I have a spare room big enough to turn into a nerdcave.

@FastChef

I saw a dude who'd put those heads on Electropriests and it worked well, and they're about Skitarii size, so it should be possible even if it takes a little chopping.

@viagrandad

Yeah, Scoria strapped engines to Xana and turned it into a HellForge Death Star, before piloting his Kardashev 1 industrial base off into the eye of terror to make cool phasing planes.

New_Cliche
New_Cliche

@Sir_Gallonhead
add any bright neon colors for muatations use purple. mine are mostly pink and secondary black, with some parts mostly cloth on bright neon paints.

Nude_Bikergirl
Nude_Bikergirl

@Fried_Sushi
It's good to see the bad guy from demolition man became a space marine

Garbage Can Lid
Garbage Can Lid

Newbie just looking for ideas on what to purchase. I've settled on Night Lords, I love the Raptor/Warp Talon kit so I figured a Vanguard detachment with a Lord, 2 Warp Talon squads and a Raptor squad with plasma guns would be a good start. I need stuff on the board too though so would it be advisable to get Havocs or Predators and maybe some cultists?

Harmless_Venom
Harmless_Venom

@Stupidasole
Khorne Berserkers are in the Codex. You're taking a very wide reading of that and in danger of having an invalid army.

Sir_Gallonhead
Sir_Gallonhead

do patrol detachments give +1 CP? i saw it on the gw stream but i thought in the rulebook is gives no benefits?

Boy_vs_Girl
Boy_vs_Girl

@Nude_Bikergirl
simon says you're a heretic

happy_sad
happy_sad

@AwesomeTucker
/v/

5mileys
5mileys

@AwesomeTucker
nice socks tho desu

cum2soon
cum2soon

@Sir_Gallonhead
The book is correct.

idontknow
idontknow

@happy_sad
no Dawn of War is perfectly fine on Veeky Forums

Skullbone
Skullbone

@Methnerd
You can get a box from ebay for the low low price of $100!

RumChicken
RumChicken

So? Where is that gk codex pdf?
Work harder sushiman

DeathDog
DeathDog

Primaris haters are just poorfags who can't buy a new army. It's just a case sour grapes.

eGremlin
eGremlin

Why haven't Kharn, Typhus, Ahriham, and Lucius been made Daemon princes?

Illusionz
Illusionz

@eGremlin
Because they are in the game to represent mortal lieutenants.

Supergrass
Supergrass

@Booteefool
Spiderman = Me
Batman = My Wallet

Dreamworx
Dreamworx

@eGremlin
Tzeentch enjoys fucking with Ahriman too much, honestly

Lord_Tryzalot
Lord_Tryzalot

@DeathDog
Just like cents and dreadknights.

MPmaster
MPmaster

DA GALAXY BELONGZ TO DA ORKZ!

Soft_member
Soft_member

Are there any good pre-heresy world eater books?
Or any books about chapter founding?

girlDog
girlDog

@DeathDog
This desu

iluvmen
iluvmen

Rotated my screen to see full ePub of Knights. Got 111 screens they are readable. sure the font looks pixelated on 300 but it is highly readable,where should I upload it to? Pic proof.

Inmate
Inmate

@eGremlin
so the cult-legions have "human" Leaders.

Also because the chaos gods like to see them keep doing their stuff. also pretty sure neither of them WANT to become a daemon prince

Deadlyinx
Deadlyinx

@Soft_member
Betrayers. Kharn is a bro.

Emberfire
Emberfire

@RumChicken
You know if you weren't a faggot NEET you could just buy the book yourself, it's really not that much

SniperGod
SniperGod

@Booteefool
finally i will have a proper plastic steel legion to field alongside my kriegers

RavySnake
RavySnake

@SomethingNew
Gal Vorbak
shit
Terrible taste

DeathDog
DeathDog

@kizzmybutt

You have to understand GW commitment to ensuring that when you play Iron Warriors, you feel like an Iron Warrior

Here's your awesome piece of art that's meant to showcase you in the codex, wielding a weapon that you aren't legally allowed to take cause you threw them away after the heresy along with all those other weapons and units you're known for, like your heavy artillery, breachers, cataphractii armour and destroyers.

Also we made your stratagem shit and copy pasted your unique legion rules from the Imperial fists

Ow, and all those vehicles you want to take, your legion trait doesn't effect them and we got rid of the vehicle upgrades like doom siren and demonic possession

Feeling Cold and Bitter yet?

JunkTop
JunkTop

@Emberfire
Shut up cancerfaggot, provide it now

CodeBuns
CodeBuns

GK have chaplains. This feels weird. Weren't they supposed to be so pure they didn't need them?

Fuzzy_Logic
Fuzzy_Logic

@SomethingNew

possessed have great models

Sir_Gallonhead
Sir_Gallonhead

@CodeBuns

Just don't bother taking any. Though GW should be shamed for doing shit like this just to sell models.

viagrandad
viagrandad

@Lord_Tryzalot
Dreadknights are literally baby carriers friend. They're garbage.

haveahappyday
haveahappyday

@Playboyize
In the eyes of GW, yes. If you don't have PAULDRONS and an oh-so-speshul demigod leading you who can sell huge overpriced models, get to the back of the line, kiddo.

mfw nobody has realized you could give Tau LOW characters by just putting them in a bigger battlesuit

w8t4u
w8t4u

@Fuzzy_Logic
Weren't those replaced by the plastics something like a year later?

Inmate
Inmate

So I have a bit of a quandry, 40kg. The guy in the foreground here is how I currently base my minis, desert for a desert themed list, right? But Duncan recently told me that darker bases make lighter uniforms looks better, and I think he's right. What color should I be painting these bases to make the colors pop but still look realistic for a khaki-colored uniform?

Gigastrength
Gigastrength

@massdebater
Orks
Confirmed for next year

@Playboyize
I know, what the hell am I supposed to do to compete?

Methshot
Methshot

@viagrandad
Sounds lie you are just too poor to field 6 of them lead by a gran master in one as well.

Methnerd
Methnerd

@Fuzzy_Logic
take the true path of chaos

Burnblaze
Burnblaze

@haveahappyday
Farsight in a KUSTOM Riptide Gundam

TalkBomber
TalkBomber

I Am Alpharius

Word reaches the High Lords of Terra of a Chaos Lord claiming to be Alpharius ravaging the adamantium-laced moons of the Danevra Sub-sector. Debate rages about whether this could potentially be the case, for the Primarch’s death has been recorded more than once across the span of Imperial history.
The Grand Master of the Officio Assassinorum dispatches a force of six Vindicare marksmen. Over a number of years they identify and slay a dozen Alpha Legion champions bearing the name of Alpharius upon the scrolls of their battle plate, but the reports of raids upon the sub-sector’s mining operations only intensify. Five years later, the decapitated heads of all six Vindicare Assassins are found frozen in the food storage halls of the High Lords.

BlogWobbles
BlogWobbles

@Gigastrength
Wait until that piece of shit fluff from Beast Arises becomes canon and we get "Primeorks"

StonedTime
StonedTime

@JunkTop
prove it
I wouldn't buy a codex for that shitty fucking army because I don't play it, not because I'm too much of a looser to not pay for it, when my factions codex comes out I'll buy it day one absolutely because having a job means you can actually afford the things you want and feel like you've earned them

ZeroReborn
ZeroReborn

@Emberburn
Holy fucking shit, TWO orange transparent chainsaw? That's fucking overpowered.

eGremlin
eGremlin

A friend and I were going to make a Forgeworld order, but we aren't sure what to get.

I play Chaos and already have a Spartan Assault Tank.
He plays orks and has some grot tanks and a squiggoth.

Any suggestions for things that we might like?

New_Cliche
New_Cliche

@eGremlin
Fliers, because GW cannot design one worth a damn

whereismyname
whereismyname

@viagrandad
FORWARD! PURGE THE DAEMONIC!

Dreamworx
Dreamworx

@BlogWobbles
Man I can't wait to field a knight-sized Warboss with a revolver-modded battlecannon as sidearm.

Raving_Cute
Raving_Cute

@haveahappyday
pauldrons
demigods in your army
giant centerpiece models
New necrons confirmed?

Crazy_Nice
Crazy_Nice

@StonedTime
Can't you read illiterate retard?

King_Martha
King_Martha

Any Japanbros here that went to Comik92?

Anybody here able to read (and therefore translate Japanese?

Spamalot
Spamalot

@Inmate
Darker colour.

Soft_member
Soft_member

@Gigastrength
Orks next year
Do you have a drop of proof for this other than "my dad works at GW?"

girlDog
girlDog

@whereismyname
that baby is so lucky to be sucking on those titties

farquit
farquit

@New_Cliche
I've been planning on getting a dreadclaw.

5mileys
5mileys

@Burnblaze

More like, ala NDK GM, convert yourself a Tau LoW using Stormsurge+Riptide+Commander kits because fuck you buy 3 boxes for one model

massdebater
massdebater

Kill Kan 3+ save

Battlewagon 4+ save...

What is this

Inmate
Inmate

@eGremlin
Maybe some of the Leviathan or Contemptor dreadnaughts. Or more Grot Tanks.

PackManBrainlure
PackManBrainlure

@Soft_member
Not him but logical. Let's assume 50% is Age of Sigmar. That leaves 26 weeks. And there is 15 or so 'major' factions. 3 have been done. So Orks are most likely gonna be done next year.

Snarelure
Snarelure

@Nude_Bikergirl
Please reference the rules which allow Berzerkers to still be troops

Emberfire
Emberfire

@Spamalot

which darker color I mean. I can't think of a decent dark color scheme that makes sense for khaki uniforms.

RavySnake
RavySnake

I won a game today (Ad Mech vs Space Marines) I declared for Chaos in the campaign and a young lad in the store had a mental breakdown and started screeching I couldn't do that and I was cheating and he actually came damn close to REEEEEEEEEEEing

mfw when I did anyway

ZeroReborn
ZeroReborn

@massdebater
Kans have rounded armour, Battlewaggons have flat slabs, but shitloads of it.

TechHater
TechHater

@Soft_member
Of course
https://www.warhammer-community.com/2017/08/09/new-matched-play-rules-in-chapter-approved-aug-9gw-homepage-post-1/

we have released several codexes, but there are still plenty of Factions – Orks, Drukhari, Necrons etc. – that don’t yet have a codex of their own. Chapter Approved gives these players a sneak peek of what many of these factions can expect when their codex is released (we are hard on work to get that done as quickly as we can), but one of the things we wanted to do was give everyone access to ‘objective secured’ right away:
Chapter Approved gives these players a sneak peek of what many of these factions can expect when their codex is released

Chapter Approved releases at the year's end, so no codices between it and New Years

eGremlin
eGremlin

@PackManBrainlure
not him but logical
uses absolutely terrible logic
So I guess you guys didn't know something I don't

FastChef
FastChef

So I want to run this list using raven guard chapter tactics. Put the captain, lieutenant and the 2 aquads of marines in the land raider, the scouts are going to hang back. The dread will walk next to the landraider and the reivers will be annoying. Anything I should change?

++ Battalion Detachment +3CP (Imperium - Space Marines) [56 PL, 1001pts] ++

+ HQ +

Captain [5 PL, 89pts]: Chainsword, Combi-plasma

Lieutenants [4 PL, 63pts]
. Lieutenant: Chainsword, Master-crafted boltgun

+ Troops +

Scout Squad [6 PL, 75pts]
. Scout Sergeant: Chainsword, Sniper rifle
. 4x Scout w/Sniper Rifle: 4x Sniper rifle

Tactical Squad [5 PL, 78pts]
. 3x Space Marine
. Space Marine Sergeant: Boltgun, Chainsword
. Space Marine w/Special Weapon: Plasma gun

Tactical Squad [5 PL, 78pts]
. 3x Space Marine
. Space Marine Sergeant: Boltgun, Chainsword
. Space Marine w/Special Weapon: Plasma gun

+ Elites +

Redemptor Dreadnought [10 PL, 202pts]: 2x Storm Bolters, Heavy Onslaught Gatling Cannon, Icarus Rocket Pod, Onslaught Gatling Cannon

Reiver Squad [5 PL, 100pts]: Bolt Carbine, Grav Chutes, 4x Reiver, Reiver Sergeant

+ Heavy Support +

Land Raider Crusader [16 PL, 316pts]: 2x Hurricane bolter, Multi-melta, Storm bolter, Twin assault cannon

JunkTop
JunkTop

@farquit
I love my Xiphon, but the other user has a point if you like the dreadnoughts

GoogleCat
GoogleCat

@Fuzzy_Logic
I like the middle one...

StrangeWizard
StrangeWizard

@RavySnake
Dark Mech best Mech

Need_TLC
Need_TLC

@RavySnake
You're doing God's work user

Nude_Bikergirl
Nude_Bikergirl

@RavySnake
Cool dude, I bet all the nerd girls at the store lined up to suck your cock after you told them that, did everyone in the game store clap?

Harmless_Venom
Harmless_Venom

Saved him from bad doggo. How can I fix? Doggo is alright too. Didn't eat but destroyed banner.

farquit
farquit

@eGremlin
How is it terrible logic? There is 15 or so major factions, 3 have been done. So that means 52 weeks of updates is available next year. Even if 40k gets zero more releases this year (HAH) then chances are Orks, which are a popular major faction, are likely to be done next year. Short of GW making brand new factions and doing major releases for 3 weeks each AND releasing specialist games AND releasing AoS, then I don't see how Orks are gonna be 2019.

haveahappyday
haveahappyday

What the fuck is a Power Stabba?
Why do I have this an option despite their being no model?

Bidwell
Bidwell

@Nude_Bikergirl
I'm inclined to believe him because there are some genuinely fucked up people who connect way to personally with this hobby

Techpill
Techpill

@Harmless_Venom
Either round it out and say it's a walking stick or even it out and stick a fancy decoration on the even surface

PackManBrainlure
PackManBrainlure

@w8t4u

Yes, unfortunately

Carnalpleasure
Carnalpleasure

@TechHater
Nice quote manipulation
Do you work for CNN?

Burnblaze
Burnblaze

@Nude_Bikergirl

No, one lad got really upset, just like you are now. Everyone else was doing their own thing. Did you play any games today?

Firespawn
Firespawn

@Inmate
I've been considering a dreadnaught or decimator.

LuckyDusty
LuckyDusty

@BlogWobbles
The novels are already canon.

BinaryMan
BinaryMan

@Booteefool

Has this been confirmed?!?!?!

AwesomeTucker
AwesomeTucker

@Bidwell
lying, on the internet no less
being a grown ass man and picking on kids because he's that much of a beta
Neither are great options

New_Cliche
New_Cliche

@Flameblow
wat dat

Stupidasole
Stupidasole

Alpha legion

whereismyname
whereismyname

@BinaryMan
Do you see posts with conclusive evidence?

Nojokur
Nojokur

@54844428
quote manipulation
literally copy pasted almost the full paragraph

Well alright, clearly you're dense and want to live in your own bubble so it is a waste of time trying to track down shit for you. Not even a (You) for you.

Lunatick
Lunatick

@New_Cliche
Powa Stabba. All of a sudden, the single best bit in the orks range.

Crazy_Nice
Crazy_Nice

@New_Cliche
Power stabba

Lord_Tryzalot
Lord_Tryzalot

@Nude_Bikergirl
Look, we've literally had a dude have a complete mental breakdown to the point where we basically had to call the cops because he was throwing models and rulebooks at people,
and he eventually jumped through a fucking glass-wall window to escape. He only freaked out harder when two of us pulled guns on him after he refused to leave once we called the cops, which though it was legal and "the right" thing to do in the situation, it most certainly did not help him calm down

King_Martha
King_Martha

@AwesomeTucker
Fucking British English. I completely missed that he said 'young' lad.

That's pretty shitty

Spamalot
Spamalot

@Techpill
But can I still run him with icon or banner (are they still two different things in 8th?)

girlDog
girlDog

@Burnblaze
Yup, Orks and guard, posted pics, didn't even have to troll children to get my rocks off, step off faggot
mad
Uh huh, if someone calls you out it must be an emotional thing

5mileys
5mileys

@FastChef
1001 points
...

cum2soon
cum2soon

@New_Cliche
A Ork Bionik arm, the powa stabba version, 1/Nob box, there's also a killsaw version and a few different klaws.

hairygrape
hairygrape

@Lord_Tryzalot
Waving guns at a madman didn't fix the situation
Shocker
Next time don some scrubs and tell him you'll take him to the madhouse, I'm sure he'll calm right down

Poker_Star
Poker_Star

daemon troops included in the chaos dex

That's a nice touch. Saves me having to shell out for Codex: Chaos Daemons or whatever to use the daemon summoning rules.

chaos knights and chaos bastions aren't

OH SHIT BETTER GO OUT AND BUY INDEX: CHAOS (TM) FOR THOSE TWO DATASHEETS

Like, why would you not compile them in with the rest of the mortal(ish) Chaos dudes. Oh god, please let it be because Dark Mechanicus are getting their own book.

Emberburn
Emberburn

@Spamalot
Personally I live the walking stick idea. Paint his eye all cataracty like he's blind and needs a cane

SniperGod
SniperGod

BEEP BOOP
FUCK THE LOYALISTS

LuckyDusty
LuckyDusty

A friend and i is having a rule argument and neither of us has English as first language.

What it boils down to is that i want to field the Dark Vengeance asp champ (now sold separately from GW it seems) as is, with a power axe and combi-melta.

He argues that i can only take two weapons from the first list, or replacing both bolter and bolt pistol with one from the second list, not one from each.

Can i take one from each list?
Can i take two from the first AND one from the second list?

Lunatick
Lunatick

@SniperGod
Rude.

Sir_Gallonhead
Sir_Gallonhead

@RavySnake
Do you declare after a game?

If two SM players play, does one have to fight for chaos?

Spamalot
Spamalot

@Lord_Tryzalot
he refused to leave after we called the cops
SO WE DREW OUR GUNZ
IT WAS THE RIGHT THING TO DO
If some faggots drew down on me, and it wasn't even their store, I would pull out my phone and start taking pics. You do know you could have gotten in an ass load of trouble right?
And I'm sure you pathetic losers had rock hard 3 inch boners at the chance to throw down. Finally get to use my concealed carry range queen pocket cannon!

farquit
farquit

@girlDog

trolling children

You mean two Imperium sides playing against each other and both agreeing beforehand one would declare for Chaos and rolling off for it and it being me and when we recorded the result and some ratty teen overhearing and screeching Ad Mech can't declare for Chaos?

I thought it was worth a giggle but sorry you've literally become triggered and are white knighting some sperg you'll never meet, in a store you'll step into who got mad that Chaos got their 3rd win in a day that already had 10 recorded Imperial wins.

frigging wew lad...

SomethingNew
SomethingNew

@Booteefool
I would only give a shit because it would mean Orks are close behind

w8t4u
w8t4u

@Sir_Gallonhead
->
@farquit

askme
askme

@Sir_Gallonhead
Obviously Tzeentch tricked them into fighting each other, Chaos wins

likme
likme

@LuckyDusty
He's correct. It says 'alternatively' which means instead of. So you can either take two weapons from first list or a single one from second.

Though this might have been fixed in FAQ's, shrug.

kizzmybutt
kizzmybutt

@DeathDog
Is it valid to think that the lore is shitty, half the models look stupid, and the last thing Marines needed was to be even more special snowflakes?

Gigastrength
Gigastrength

@Poker_Star
GW includes AdMech and Dark Mech in one book

TreeEater
TreeEater

@girlDog
Still no new Berzerker models.
Still stuck with the tripping daisies.

Skullbone
Skullbone

@LuckyDusty

The way it is written suggests your friend is right, but it does seem weird. Replace you boltgun+bolt pistol with a boltgun?

Flameblow
Flameblow

@Spamalot
Gunfight at the Games Workshop

StonedTime
StonedTime

/40kg/ today

DeathDog
DeathDog

@Nude_Bikergirl
Kek

TechHater
TechHater

Aesthetically, how would Dark Mech and Hereteks differ from Ad Mech and Skitarii?

Spooky robes and robot wires are already there.

eGremlin
eGremlin

@SniperWish
All you're achieving is having your posts filtered.

CodeBuns
CodeBuns

@StonedTime
today

BunnyJinx
BunnyJinx

/tg/thread/54839940#p54842448
you get 3cp for being battleforged
Shit, totally forgot about that. The lack of 'zerker troops still hurts, but 6 CPs should be enough to play with the stratagems

GoogleCat
GoogleCat

@Spamalot
I don't understand why you guys are believing that completely bullshit story.

Fuzzy_Logic
Fuzzy_Logic

@hairygrape
Look, it was a grown ass man screaming at 12-years olds because he lost a game, throwing his models and other peoples stuff at kids. We gave him multiple chances to leave, informed him we called the cops, gave him more chances, and he just ranted and raved and threw shit at people. We only drew our pistols (I am an armed security guard at a corporate location, and the other guy was ex-sheriff) after an hour of standoff and attempting to remove him by other means. Even when we drew and told him - again - to leave, he just slammed his fists on the table and cried and screamed at us and the manager (everybody else had booked it the hell out of there by this point.

We didn't call the cops until 20min after the incident started, he didn't leave (via jumping through the window) for another thirty, and the cops got there ten minutes after he left. This was an hour-long debacle of insanity I literally never want to live through again, and one the PD backed us up on and told us was ultimately handled correctly.

So yes, I'd believe that people can kind of lose their minds in this hobby lol.

Nojokur
Nojokur

@SniperWish
I can only help you by providing an image for your next attempt

Stark_Naked
Stark_Naked

@likme

I thought CSM had drop-pods that were more advanced than the current SM drop-pods, but were possessed?

Nude_Bikergirl
Nude_Bikergirl

@eGremlin
Why? Not him but why are you reacting like that? Bit autistic. Just ignore him.

Lord_Tryzalot
Lord_Tryzalot

@StonedTime
tfw this isn't even that bad by /40kg/'s standards

Sir_Gallonhead
Sir_Gallonhead

@Deadlyinx

difficult to become possessed

One would think it would be as easy as saying "possess me"

MPmaster
MPmaster

@Raving_Cute
Throw a grab talon on those reavers. Give those raiders shock prows. You have 27 points to blow, might as well get some cheap upgrades in. Also I think the huskblade is shit, but your mileage may vary.

Evil_kitten
Evil_kitten

@Nojokur
Thanks lad. Appreciate it. There was a Japanbro and a few Moon readers here a few days ago and I was hoping to catch them.

happy_sad
happy_sad

@TechHater
Deamon batteries, Unshackled AI and a plasma weapon with 3 settings instead of the mandated 2

askme
askme

@SniperWish
Try /jp/

@TechHater
Spiky cogs

iluvmen
iluvmen

@Spamalot
grown man throwing shit at children and having a mental breakdown in a public location
refusing to leave or calm down
refusing to leave or calm down after cops have been called

While the guys may have over-escalated the response, escalation is the correct response to a hostile person endangering a minor and refusing to leave the premises, and there does come a point where violence is the correct response.

Inmate
Inmate

What are you guys doing with your Dreadlets?

I'm gonna use them as bases for my Redemptors.

kizzmybutt
kizzmybutt

@Emberburn
He's blind and he THINKS he still has his icon. This results in a psychic anomaly that makes the I on's effects take place.

Techpill
Techpill

@askme
Yeah but it's specifically for 40k fans as there is a 40k doujin artist at C92.

Skullbone
Skullbone

@Fuzzy_Logic

In 4th edition I once saw a guy smash his entire Necron army to pieces after he rolled about ten 1s in a row...

TurtleCat
TurtleCat

@King_Martha
@SniperWish
/h/thread/4714243#p4714243
New Nanashi, but it's not lolidom. Full-color image set from Asanagi (that might be cute and bubbly as usual but surprisingly light on abuse), some toned femboy from Mikoyan. And plenty of usual mainstream / recent seasons.
Have not seen a single promising piece for Made in Abyss though.

VisualMaster
VisualMaster

is it a bad time to start a chaos army? I know they got their codex released today, but the models are ancient.

eGremlin
eGremlin

Heard that Rob was leaving Warhammer TV, did he get fired for all the swearing / twitter whinging?

BinaryMan
BinaryMan

@Poker_Star
I'm looking for some advice on building my necron army. What I have so far is:
20 necron warriors
5 immortals
5 scarabs
1 overlord
1 destroyer lord
1 ghost ark

Should I get a cryptek? Or would it be better to get some lychguard?

whereismyname
whereismyname

@VisualMaster
but the models are ancient.

Doesn't look like that is about to change anytime soon. Unless you play Death Guard.

Dreamworx
Dreamworx

@LuckyDusty
Normal aspiring champion can't take the shit that is in your pic.

Aspiring champion however that is listed on GW site is "exalted champion" or, in your case the DV aspiring champion is a named character "Vrosh tattered soul". He can have both power axe and combi melta and rerolls failed wound rolls in the fighting phase.

He is in the right since the picture you have there is the regular aspiring champion from CSM squad.

to put it simply
Can I take two from each list
For the HQ exalted champion, yes. For the aspiring champion that is part of normal CSM squads, no.
Can i take two from the first AND one from the second list?
No, you can't on either.

Need_TLC
Need_TLC

@whereismyname
Or Thousand Sons

Garbage Can Lid
Garbage Can Lid

@Inmate

No-one fights like Vaston
No-one shoots like Vaston
No-one serves beyond death to the end like Vaston

Booteefool
Booteefool

@CodeBuns
I'm with ya man, I usually make fun of people who said Veeky Forums is shit "today"
But idk if it's my mood or what but all the anger and lashing out on top of disingenuous arguments and straight up lies is getting to me, maybe I should go outside or something

Spamalot
Spamalot

@eGremlin
Duncan is just tightening his grasp.

girlDog
girlDog

Anyone feel like the inclusion of Primarch's is a bad decision?

They take away from the sense of scale of the galaxy and your games. Suddenly your game is suddenly, by definition, super important. It takes away from the named champions like Ahriman, Calgar and Typhus.

The ultimate Irony is that the biggest models with the flashiest rules make the game feel smaller and less personal.

viagrandad
viagrandad

@Skullbone
Sounds like Iron 40k

cum2soon
cum2soon

@Fuzzy_Logic
Literally the most cringy story I've heard in a while
Poor guy

lostmypassword
lostmypassword

@eGremlin
swearing/twitter whinging
What's all this?

Deadlyinx
Deadlyinx

@BinaryMan
Crypteks/named crypteks are absolutely necessary for Necrons these days.

Scarabs are worthless in my honest opinion.

Get 5 more immortals and 20 more warriors or 15 more immortals to finish your troops.

Get some Heavy Destroyers. Lychguard are nice, Praetorians are really good. Triarch Stalkers are really good for their targeting relay.

Snarelure
Snarelure

@girlDog

You have a problem with primaris but not the fact that every ultramarine player is taking guilliman or every TS player taking Magnus etc etc

TalkBomber
TalkBomber

@iluvmen
The guy was throwing models. Good luck defending that shit in court
well your honor he was throwing metal models around! He could have hit a MINOR!!!
... why didn't you all just step outside and wait for the cops again?
... uhh well...
Overweight, trigger happy, white trash like you make it so much harder for the rest of us. Please overdose on your opioid of choice

TurtleCat
TurtleCat

@TechHater
Ad Mech: replace fleshy bits with machine bits.
Dark Mech: replace machine bits with fleshy bits

LuckyDusty
LuckyDusty

https://strawpoll.com/kfb2zpk9
https://strawpoll.com/kfb2zpk9
https://strawpoll.com/kfb2zpk9

How much of your army do you guys have painted?

DeathDog
DeathDog

@cum2soon
Literally the most cringy story I've heard in a while

Try fucking being there. Literally none of us wanted to do it, but the dude basically lost his mind. He had to have had some sort of medical problems we didn't know about and it all just snapped. He causes thousands in damage too, and according to the manager apparently getting insurance to write it off was a nightmare.

ZeroReborn
ZeroReborn

@lostmypassword
This. Story time!!

FastChef
FastChef

@Snarelure
reading comprehension

GoogleCat
GoogleCat

Sold half of my Primaris shit to focus on Death Guard

I feel good for it and feel like my AOS Nurgle Daemons haven't gone to waste either

Stupidasole
Stupidasole

@girlDog

Change the scale. I'm bullshitting up a Kill Team ruleset that takes queues from the fan-made AoS Hinterlands system. 150 points makes for a very restricted and tiny game, and given the points costs for vehicles, you don't really need to add any prohibitions on units save for unique Characters.

Dreamworx
Dreamworx

@LuckyDusty
Probably like 20% of my total IG, by points. I only play with painted models though so I don't feel too guilty.

Lord_Tryzalot
Lord_Tryzalot

@girlDog

I hate how they're treating the named characters now.

Reading Calgar's sections in the Dark Imperium book was *pathetic* he was written like a whimpering 11 year old girl... and not a 600+ year old solid granite hero of the Imperium who has stared the void and the great devourer in the eye and spat at both of them. It was all

Calgar felt sad because he felt Guillimans words were aimed at him
Calgar hung his head as he couldnt defend Ultramar
Calgar was very very sad

viagrandad
viagrandad

Is Doomrider ever coming back?

happy_sad
happy_sad

@GoogleCat
AOS

5mileys
5mileys

@LuckyDusty
Out of the first set of Death Guard?

29/31 models.

That said, the last models are the Drone and Lord so... like 75% done.

Inmate
Inmate

@iluvmen

What the fuck is drawing guns going to do in that situation though? You've asked the guy to leave. The store has been evacuated. So you pull your gun out and point it at him. What exactly do you say now?

Sir, leave now, or I will be forced to shoot you

Are you really going to shoot the guy because he won't leave an adandoned shop? That shit isn't going to fly in any court. He's not holding a weapon and threatening people. Plus I seriously doubt a security guard and a retired sherrif are going to open fire on Neckbeard Prime just because he won't leave.

So, if you're not going to shoot him, what purpose does pulling those guns out serve?

Deadlyinx
Deadlyinx

@Burnblaze
Stop, my penis can only get so erect

Methnerd
Methnerd

@TalkBomber

see

@Fuzzy_Logic

The fact that one was an armed guard and the other guy was an ex-LEO paints the situation in a bit of a different light than that.

At least in Texas, if you're trained to handle situations like that (which both of those would be) you are considered to have a moral obligation to intervene until authorities arrive by other members of your profession, especially cops. Just because you're not in uniform doesn't mean you don't get involved.

Burnblaze
Burnblaze

@Lord_Tryzalot
What was even worse was the writer jacking off about how much of a brilliant politician Guilliman's suppose to be, always knowing exactly what he has to say to people ... and yet Guilliman never says anything to Calgar besides orders.

TurtleCat
TurtleCat

@viagrandad
Who knows, he comes and he goes

BlogWobbles
BlogWobbles

Shitty PDF but it works. Not sure what it looks like on mobile devices. I'm trying various options on my converter. Will post again if I can clean it up.

https://sendit.cloud/518a1k3hgjxt

CouchChiller
CouchChiller

@Fuzzy_Logic
security guard
EX deputy
but the local po dunk flat foot who answered the call backed us up!
Trained professionals all I see.

DeathDog
DeathDog

@girlDog
I got a mat but I still need to buy some folding picnic tables and make terrain

eGremlin
eGremlin

@Lord_Tryzalot

This is the reason I don't want new Ork fluff.

Ghaz is already almost beyond redemption with the whole Abbadonesque "everything he did was actually a brilliant strategm and perfectly planned he didn't really lose at any point in fact he WANTED to be defeated and not capture Armageddon twice". Doubtless if we hear more about him it'll just take the whole thing even further.

BinaryMan
BinaryMan

@BlogWobbles
You sound like you don't want Ghazgkhull to truly become the Beast Reborn and wear a Gargant as body armor, user.

Truly though the thought of someone other than Marines of either flavor getting huge overpowered character LOWs fills me with glee.

GoogleCat
GoogleCat

@Booteefool
/40kg/ has been going downhill fast since last summer, January it got even worse, 8th accelerated it so much I left in May, and from the state of it, is must have been in a free-fall eve since.

Spazyfool
Spazyfool

@Dreamworx
Normal aspiring champion can't take the shit that is in your pic.
He is in the right since the picture you have there is the regular aspiring champion from CSM squad.

Uhm wat.... a champion cant take a fist?
I was under the the impression that the champion equipment list is for like... champions, because HQ units dont take stuff from the Champions equipment list they choose from pistol/combi/melee

Supergrass
Supergrass

Which one of you turbo edge lords wrote this?

Need_TLC
Need_TLC

@DeathDog
You know I'm critical of that and personally believe pulling a gun was extreme overkill, I've pulled a gun once and it was in a terrible situation and it made me not want to look at a firearm for about a year
That being said I work at a low shitty motel, and we get people who sometimes snap who either get a room or just wonder on to the propertyX I've seen those kinds of breakdowns and it's not fun, I usually just lock the door and wait for the police to arrive, nothing's worth putting myself in a position where I may end up killing someone

Sir_Gallonhead
Sir_Gallonhead

@happy_sad
waaaah don't enjoy more than one thing

Boy_vs_Girl
Boy_vs_Girl

@LuckyDusty
15% primed
5% basecoated
1 model painted

girlDog
girlDog

@TurtleCat
He's been gone too long!!

5mileys
5mileys

@PackManBrainlure
That did the trick. thanks user.

likme
likme

@ZeroReborn
@lostmypassword

Well, you can check his twitter @sixdiceskills and he came off twitter because the GW bosses told him to tone it the fuck down, so he threw a strop and left a passive aggressive message and came off twitter.

I dunno about swearing though?

It's more likely he got head hunted by another mini selling company for more cash as he actually did a really good job as the face man for a corporation that prior to his arrival was about as open as the NSA

Playboyize
Playboyize

@girlDog
Can chaos lords still take bikes?

Snarelure
Snarelure

@Supergrass
lmao who wrote this?
Alpharius

Emberburn
Emberburn

@Playboyize
Yes, but I don't think they sell a model, so you have to kitbash

Flameblow
Flameblow

@Supergrass
It was I, Alpharius

TechHater
TechHater

@likme
It's more likely he got head hunted by another mini selling company for more cash as he actually did a really good job as the face man for a corporation that prior to his arrival was about as open as the NSA

This part sounds like you pulled it out of your ass 100%

PurpleCharger
PurpleCharger

@Inmate
What the fuck is drawing guns going to do in that situation though?

Believe it or not, de-escalation 95% of the time. When you have an uncooperative and hostile individual who poses a threat to others (operative words are "uncooperative," "hostile," and "threat"), drawing your sidearm makes it VERY clear to the individual that they need to stop exactly what they're doing right now and comply with orders. This is only to be done once other options have been exhausted, behavior is escalating, or there is a clear and present threat to themselves, to you, or to others, but there does come a point where it's the correct response.

95% of the time, people realize "oh shit, this isn't worth my life," and they stop what they're doing and follow instructions.

This (if it actually happened) may have been the other 5% of the time.

Source: beat cop.

Illusionz
Illusionz

@Playboyize
Besides that Doomrider has such cool lore he deserves a place in the game. He's like the Green Knight of 40k

girlDog
girlDog

@PurpleCharger
source: beat cop
trusting a cop in burgerland on how to de-escalate a situation
Now that's kek level irony

viagrandad
viagrandad

@Stark_Naked
What program are you using?

happy_sad
happy_sad

@LuckyDusty
SC Skitarii, Beep Boops, Kataphrons painted
Tech Priest, Dunecrawler, Kataphrons unpainted
Infiltrators partially painted, need to be redone

I'd say about 55-65% painted

Methshot
Methshot

@PurpleCharger
Unless that lunatic is also armed.

Firespawn
Firespawn

@Illusionz
He's more like the chaos dreigo.

SniperWish
SniperWish

Coming back to 40k from basically 3rd edition, some 4th, any tips for an Alpha Legion list?

Can they still 'infiltrate'

StonedTime
StonedTime

@likme
desu senpai he came off as a chode to me after that Warhammer Community article were he said he doesn't paint his own shit.

eGremlin
eGremlin

@PackManBrainlure
Am I the only one who really likes the plastic possessed?

AwesomeTucker
AwesomeTucker

CSM and Chosen have to swap out their bolter for a chainsword, rather than being able to take one in addition to their bolt pistol (only space yiffs can do that now)
Chaos have misplaced all their melta bombs this edition
Night Lords don't have night vision
Iron Warriors don't get any buffs to their vehicles (Iron Hands got gipped by this as well)
World Eaters and Emperor's Children don't get cult units as troops any more
Legion Tactics don't apply to daemon princes. Emperor's Children cultists are thus quicker in combat than their Slaaneshi daemon prince overlord, Night Lord cultists are scarier than Night Lord daemon princes (Krieg Acerbus lol), etc.
Typhus is the only traitor in a cataphractii suit, whereas any dipshit loyalist chapter can apparently field that 30k shit
Warpsmiths and Dark Apostles still can't take bikes or jump packs. Exalted champion is another footslogger.
Warpsmiths can't heal heldrakes, despite them basically being landspeeders with claws now rather than a supersonic jetfighter that breathes fire
Heldrake claws are priced at 17pts rather than just being included in its cost

REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
I actually like the dex and think the stratagems and artefacts are cool and everything seems to be points costed way better, but I gotta vent about the minor quibbles somewhere.

GoogleCat
GoogleCat

Hey fellow kid! You want an awesome new grey knights brother-captain plastic model? Just buy a space marine captain!
Oh you wanted a librarian? Same!
But wait, there's more! You can also buy the ultra limited special edition chaplain for only 250€!
Also don't forget to buy the shitty toy helicopters and lego spaceships!
And the awesome super mega nemesis dreadknight deluxe action figure*!

*Grand master not included

Fuzzy_Logic
Fuzzy_Logic

@SniperWish
Yes. It's one of their stragems in the dex.
Alpha Legion is strong as fuck now, since their army wide gives everyone shooting at them outside of 12" a -1 to hit.

New_Cliche
New_Cliche

@SniperWish

They "infil-traitor" now. Yes this is now a thing.

Illusionz
Illusionz

Can Interceptors be built without thier fruity booties?

Fried_Sushi
Fried_Sushi

@CouchChiller
EX deputy

Ex SHERIFF. He's a great guy who served his county for 26 years (8 as sheriff) before he retired. That's the literal definition of a professional.

I'm not a cop, but I'm also not a rent-a-cop you see at the mall. ARMED security guards have actual qualifications and standards that have to be met, and the company I work for requires a fuckload of training (probably too much training desu) in how to handle uncooperative and hostile individuals. I work at a large corporation that handles federal and state contracts and sensitive material, and I've had to actually handle these at my work as well (though I've only ever had to place my hand on my holster there, and even then just a few times).

It's not a night-shift guard job anybody who can put two sentences together can get for the summer.

MPmaster
MPmaster

Had a game of footslogging SM vs Shooty AM. It did not go well but it was funny.
Iron Hands venerable dreadnought survived a deathstrike missile, 11 mortal wounds became 4 thanks to two 6+ saves, that was hilarious.
And it was after it had jumped 3" up to a balcony and punched a sentinel.

farquit
farquit

@Lord_Tryzalot
He is like a child who grew up to be a manager at a hardware store, who suddenly met his father for the first time, only to find out his father had a bunch of other kids who were all doctors and lawyers

happy_sad
happy_sad

@SniperWish
Costs 1 Command Point per infantry unit you want to 'Infiltrate', but those units can be placed anywhere outside 9'' of enemy units. And since it's outside of a phase the once per phase limit on strategems doesn't apply to it in matched play.

takes2long
takes2long

@PurpleCharger
A cop is given the legal authority to draw to De escalate, or attack, as they deem appropriate (within their own regulations and the law). Whether they do it correctly is another matter.
Joe fucking Nobody, mouth breather with a concealed carry, doesn't EVER get to make that call. It's life or death self defense or nothing.

lostmypassword
lostmypassword

@AwesomeTucker
Index allows Emperor's Children and Worldeater armies to field their elite Legion units as troops.

kizzmybutt
kizzmybutt

so if i wanted to start a CSM army with more recent models i'll have to play TS/DG or attempt to kitbash primaris SM into CSM?

Methshot
Methshot

@BlogWobbles
Dude! Downloading and thanks!

PackManBrainlure
PackManBrainlure

@cum2soon
Underrated post.
Old Simpsons was witty

TalkBomber
TalkBomber

mfw Chaos Heads look good when you remove the retarded horns

This guy will look good in my IW army

RumChicken
RumChicken

@viagrandad
Didn't Jaghatai Khan cut his head off in some short story or audiodrama fairly recently?

ZeroReborn
ZeroReborn

@GoogleCat
Not just using a box of GK terminators to kitbash a Brother-captain, a Grand Master, a Librarian, a Chaplain and a Ancient/Apothecary

Funny advice by GW ... sad that it is going to work, people lack the ability for independent thought these days

FastChef
FastChef

Will Games Workshop release a big box set of all the Primaris units? Like Dark Imperium but with Reivers, etc replacing the Nurgle army.

PurpleCharger
PurpleCharger

@PurpleCharger

And that apples when the individual is exhibiting signs of mental illness or distress as well? Because in my experience of 10 years working in a special education unit at a high school, once kids with mental disabilities escalate, threats of force do the exact opposite of de-escalating the situation.

Further to that point, a cop drawing their gun and telling someone to back down is completely different to two random dudes drawing guns and telling someone to back down. The cop has authority, the two random dudes do not.

CodeBuns
CodeBuns

@lostmypassword
There's a reason why you can't field cult marines as troops anymore. It's because troops get obsec and obsec berserkers would be fucking insane. I guarantee that rubrics and plague marines won't be troops in the TS/DG codices either

whereismyname
whereismyname

@FastChef
literally went up today.

Need_TLC
Need_TLC

@PurpleCharger
Hey retard, save the retarded bullshit for your retarded children and get the fuck out of this 40k thread with this bullshit.

Harmless_Venom
Harmless_Venom

@whereismyname
@FastChef
- 1 Primaris Apothecary;
- 1 Primaris Chaplain;
- 1 Primaris Captain;
- 1 Primaris Librarian;
- 1 Primaris Repulsor;
- A set of 10 Primaris Hellblasters;
- A set of 10 Primaris Intercessors;
- A set of 3 Primaris Inceptors;
- A set of 3 Primaris Aggressors;
- A set of 10 Primaris Reivers;
- 1 Primaris Redemptor Dreadnought.

565 burgerbux

haveahappyday
haveahappyday

@PackManBrainlure
@cum2soon

In episode M42.335, when Magnus plays Russ's skeleton like a xylophone, he strikes the same rib in succession, yet he produces two clearly different tones. I mean, what are we to believe, that this is a magic xylophone, or something? Ha ha, boy, I really hope somebody got fired for that blunder.

askme
askme

@StrangeWizard
It's Centurion armor. Even has a little guy in power armor climb inside.

Inmate
Inmate

@TechHater

pulled it out of your ass 100%

Well yeah I did because I don't know?

I think it's highly unlikely he was fired, you can't just fire someone like that in the UK, He wasn't made redundant

It's more likely he got another job... and as he loves Games Workshop and the models (he literally took overtime pay in miniatures more than once) it might be for another wargaming company

idontknow
idontknow

@whereismyname
No entire-chad-marine-chapter bundle like that entire space marine chapter deal from a while back

Why live ?

Poker_Star
Poker_Star

@likme
he actually did a really good job as the face man for a corporation that prior to his arrival was about as open as the NSA

I've not paid too much attention to the inner workings of GW, but their recently turnaround as far as social media presence / community interaction (starting with when they asked for everyone to submit their FAQ requests last edition) was pretty impressive by modern GW standards. Is he the guy responsible for all that then?

Playboyize
Playboyize

@ZeroReborn
Exactly, considering if you build an apothecary and an ancient you get three spare bodies. Also brother captains, grand masters and librarians don't really look different from a regular gk. Chaplain.. Just give him the stick and a skull

Deadlyinx
Deadlyinx

@Fried_Sushi

My job requires vast amounts of overtraining in how to handle uncooperative and hostile individuals
Draw my personal weapon at a store and threaten to shoot someone posing a threat to no-one.

Yeah no

@Need_TLC

In my experience a shitload of people in this hobby started out in a special ed unit exactly like the one I work in.

TreeEater
TreeEater

@idontknow
Then end it.

Evilember
Evilember

@Deadlyinx
Fuck off, retard

Lunatick
Lunatick

@Evilember
Or what?
You'll point your purse gun at the monitor?
Demand your webcam drop to the floor?

Crazy_Nice
Crazy_Nice

@New_Cliche
infil-traitor
that awful pun is actually in the new dex

Based GW.

Lord_Tryzalot
Lord_Tryzalot

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mRP4G8w0tig

Thought you might like this of topic video. Sexy Chinese tanks won the Army Games with W40K-style music.

MPmaster
MPmaster

@Poker_Star
Is he the guy responsible for all that then?

he was just the community manager essentially a face for Games Workshop. Really enthusiastic, loves the hobby, good bants most of the time. not everyone's cup of tea but a perfect community manager.

There is a larger community team at work who manage everything else

Spamalot
Spamalot

And as far as I'm concerned, done. Expect to see some peaches and nids on here in the near future.
To finish the last part of my promise to dubs-anon I need to find some pieces that would resemble a ruined cathedral. Suggestions?

cum2soon
cum2soon

@Lord_Tryzalot
*off

massdebater
massdebater

@Lunatick
Dude I'm not the guy you were talking to, I'm a 40k fan who is telling you that you aren't welcome here and you should fuck off back to whatever retarded place your retarded ass was jizzed in last, you fuckin' idiot

Methnerd
Methnerd

@Lord_Tryzalot
W40K-style music.

TreeEater
TreeEater

@Evilember
@Lunatick

Look folks the kids are bickering again...

Sharpcharm
Sharpcharm

@Harmless_Venom

I haven't done the math, but i bet that is just the price of putting all those units together.

GW is so fucking jewish when it comes to any kind of deals and we're meant to be greatful when they put together something like the start collecting boxes

DeathDog
DeathDog

Am I wrong in thinking that a Black Templars army running Reivers will be fucking awesome and essentially pic related?

ZeroReborn
ZeroReborn

@Sharpcharm
It's not supposed to be a deal, just a 1-click bundle

FastChef
FastChef

@Lord_Tryzalot
W40K-style music

Bolt Thrower?

JunkTop
JunkTop

@New_Cliche
I refuse to believe that's real

StrangeWizard
StrangeWizard

Tonight I had a game that came to a draw. So we decided to have a 1v1 with our leaders to see who gets the win. I snapped a picture and fired it into photoshop afterwards. Does anyone else do this?
I won.

Stark_Naked
Stark_Naked

@DeathDog
Forced jokes?

Pretty much.

Boy_vs_Girl
Boy_vs_Girl

@StrangeWizard

Does anyone else do this?

No, because we're not autisti... just kidding. That's kind of awesome.

w8t4u
w8t4u

@DeathDog

essentially pic related?

Clarify that statement

Inmate
Inmate

@StrangeWizard
No but I will from now on. I hope you like a half a dozen shots of my Company Commander being eaten or obliterated by various xenos.

Playboyize
Playboyize

@kizzmybutt
Yeah. The CSM codex has Fabius Bile getting a hold of Primaris marines so he might be making his own version of them, but I can't imagine we'll see actual models anytime soon.

Sharpcharm
Sharpcharm

@Boy_vs_Girl
It's just a bit of fun.

@Inmate
I hope you like a half a dozen shots of my Company Commander being eaten or obliterated by various xenos.
He sounds weak. He deserves his death.

RavySnake
RavySnake

@Deadlyinx
works in special ed
belittles others

yer a real fuckin hero

RumChicken
RumChicken

@Playboyize
The CSM codex has Fabius Bile getting a hold of Primaris marines

He wants to get a hold of them.

VisualMaster
VisualMaster

@Playboyize
Next Edition.
Two editions from now, current marines and current CSM's won't exist. We true scale now.

StrangeWizard
StrangeWizard

@DeathDog
tfw you're a sensitive little soul who can't stand people disliking what you like

Stark_Naked
Stark_Naked

@Deadlyinx
"Hurr durr someone told a probably made up humorous story, gee I better argue with them like my life depends on it" shut up nobody cares what you think about this thing that probably never happened anyway

lostmypassword
lostmypassword

So traitor primarchs did something other than mope around but the loyalists one are literally no clue
Ravenguard and Russ headed to the warp, nothing of it.
Khan 10k years in the Webway, literally nothing of it?
Vulkan is now ???
4 of them literally jackshit in 10k years
Dorn: Cliffhanger now

PackManBrainlure
PackManBrainlure

@VisualMaster
True scale? Or just HERO SIZE EX DEE

Flameblow
Flameblow

@w8t4u
I don't think I've ever seen people use the original Possessed models. My FLGS had packs of them sitting on the shelves for years because they just didn't sell.

TurtleCat
TurtleCat

@PackManBrainlure
True Scale by current Primaris and DG proportions.

Fuzzy_Logic
Fuzzy_Logic

@lostmypassword
Russ headed to the warp, nothing of it.

Actually we got a glimpse of him during Wrath of Magnus.

Ignoramus
Ignoramus

@StrangeWizard
That's a fuckin nice shade of red

King_Martha
King_Martha

@w8t4u
Reivers have 2 attacks

With 2 combat knives they get 2 more

With Grimaldus they get +1 S and a chance at more attacks (on hit rolls of 6)

girlDog
girlDog

@GoogleCat
It's gotten better. The week when Indexes started to leak was the worst week in a long long time.

likme
likme

@Fuzzy_Logic
Really? I missed that

hairygrape
hairygrape

@Harmless_Venom
Elite Berzerkers are in the Codex and the Index. Troops Berzerkers are Index only. So the first datasheet was ported, while the second is left behind and still valid because GW said so.

Your tears are delicious.

Playboyize
Playboyize

@StrangeWizard
That is how all draws should be decided from now on though. Awesome job user

Methnerd
Methnerd

@VisualMaster
I can't see a decent justification for them Primarisizing each and every CSM, especially since Death Guard are one of the 8th edition flagship factions. At most, I could see Chaos Primaris being the source of a few new unit entries, and GW bringing the rest of CSMs into line with the Thousand Sons (or even new Death Guard) scale-wise.

TreeEater
TreeEater

can sum one smart pls convert epub chaos codex to pdf and post???

Skullbone
Skullbone

@RumChicken
Ah oops, I misread that part. You're correct.

Burnblaze
Burnblaze

TFW I realise that eventually all marines will become primaris
Fallen are specifically heresy era marines.
Dark Angels hunting the Fallen turns into a game of 'Find the halflings!'

SniperWish
SniperWish

@kizzmybutt
Yep

CouchChiller
CouchChiller

@King_Martha
I don't think they can have two combat knives.

DeathDog
DeathDog

@Fuzzy_Logic
Actually we got a glimpse of him during Wrath of Magnus.
What was it?

FastChef
FastChef

@TurtleCat
We have such sights to show you.

PurpleCharger
PurpleCharger

@Ignoramus
Here you go, this should help you track it down

@Playboyize
We got the idea from Warzone. There was this thing you would do when you couldn't decide on a ruling called the Peacemaker. It was just a dice-roll, but we decided that it's easier to make peace if your enemy isn't alive to dispute your rule. Thus, we duked it out. And thanks, user!

Need_TLC
Need_TLC

@girlDog
The constant spam about x being broken and this being the x spam edition really wore one me

MPmaster
MPmaster

Berzerkers are still troops.

lostmypassword
lostmypassword

@DeathDog
BT tactics have synergy with any melee unit with Deep Strike. It's not the worst.

SniperGod
SniperGod

I'm confused. How are berserkers troops?

TalkBomber
TalkBomber

I always thought Chosen should have been the "primaris" chaos space marines.

Gifted with increased size, strength, etc by chaos energies but not completely taken over like possessed marines and they would wield the best of the best daemon weapons.

AwesomeTucker
AwesomeTucker

Chaos Lord can't take a bike, steed of slaanesh or juggernaut

What the fuck is this shit. I bet those Nurgle and Tzeentch faggots will keep their Palanquins and Flying Discs when their dexes come out.

StrangeWizard
StrangeWizard

@AwesomeTucker
Sure they can. They use the old datacard from the index.

whereismyname
whereismyname

@MPmaster
@SniperGod
They aren't. Troops get objective secured now, which is why all the elite cult troops like noise marines and berserkers are no longer usable in the troop slot.

Spazyfool
Spazyfool

@AwesomeTucker
Tzeentch certainly will, because they've got new models.

King_Martha
King_Martha

@TalkBomber
That's cult troops.

farquit
farquit

@AwesomeTucker
When the World Eater dex comes out and I don't see Juggernlords back as well as a new unit of Berzerkers that ride Juggnernauts I'll be pretty damn pissed.

likme
likme

@AwesomeTucker
They aren't going to make a Death Guard on Palaquin model.

lostmypassword
lostmypassword

@girlDog
The ones who suffer most are the previous top dogs who get upstaged. Calgar is literally pointless except when Guilliman is busy, both in fluff and crunch.

Not that I don't enjoy ultrasues being taken down a notch, but when it's by bigger sues you got an issue.

WebTool
WebTool

@hairygrape
Seems reasonable to me. Except they said on facebook that it's invalid. I expect day 1 FAQ.

ZeroReborn
ZeroReborn

@lostmypassword
Meanwhile, guard characters are being killed off left and right.

whereismyname
whereismyname

@TechHater
I want to see xenotech instead of chaos shit

Raving_Cute
Raving_Cute

@ZeroReborn
Expect a bunch of brand new Steel Legion dudes if the plastic SL rumors are true.

Poker_Star
Poker_Star

@Raving_Cute
Which everyone will run and it won't feel new or unique anymore

Playboyize
Playboyize

@TechHater
Heldrakes, Forgefiends, and Maulerfiends are of Dark Mechanicum design. Also the Warpsmith gives you a good sense of their current aesthetic.

Gigastrength
Gigastrength

@askme
I always get them mixed up.

Methshot
Methshot

@Raving_Cute
Are there even rumors about plastic Steel Legion? Because i am going to buy a huge amount of them

Snarelure
Snarelure

@Poker_Star
Well, at least there will be more guard players, playing the second best legion.

Emberfire
Emberfire

@Emberburn
I'm so happy orange transparent chainsaw is still a meme.

Raving_Cute
Raving_Cute

Having to use the indexes in addition to the codexes because they're removing model-less characters is such a shitty fucking practice, especially given GW promised they were going to cut down on the "having to take a fuckton of books everywhere" bloat of the last few editions.

Kor'sarro Khan losing Moondrakken because GW inexplicably never bothered to give the biker chapter's poster child a fucking biker model is probably the most egregious 8th ed loss, but juggerlords no longer being a thing is pretty fucking weak.

Snarelure
Snarelure

@TalkBomber
Gangster as fuck. Also are they eluding that night haunter may be alive from the extra bit about crazy eyes and no lips?

LuckyDusty
LuckyDusty

@Snarelure
are they eluding that night haunter may be alive

No.

ZeroReborn
ZeroReborn

@Playboyize
An entire codex of these aesthetics will make me drop 800 bucks easy.

Do it GW.

Nojokur
Nojokur

@LuckyDusty
@Snarelure
Maybe?

Dreamworx
Dreamworx

@Raving_Cute

Infinity at least had some decency in this area.

Models that were being shifted out of the game got sendoffs. One character got turned evil by alien mind-control, a whole race of bug people were found to be double-dealing against the alien big bad and had to book it, and a TAG polit that got phased out was killed in action when her brain got hacked, frying even her backup consciousness.

40k could have some sendoffs for all these characters, having at least a fluff blurb about how gloriously, or ingloriously, they were killed off.

Harmless_Venom
Harmless_Venom

@Dreamworx
Creed and Kell had a whole book but they still have models and rules. Explain that.

haveahappyday
haveahappyday

@Nojokur
No.

Inmate
Inmate

@Snarelure
night haunter may be alive

Pretty sure M'Shen was literally carrying Curze's severed head with her in a bag as proof of the kill when Talos wrecks her in Soul Hunter or whichever book he has the flashback.

kizzmybutt
kizzmybutt

@AwesomeTucker

user, I think you're failing to see this from GW's perspective.

You see, they know from the chapter house debacle that they really shouldn't be making rules for models that they don't make. So they cut those models from the codex. Its also why they stripped out certain weapon options from units, most notably the removal of rifleman dreads.

But they realized that people have been building these things for years, either scratch or through FW parts, and they can't just not support units that have been in past codexes. So they created the index books, which while they also allowed them to port the rules over to 8th in a timely manner so that eveyone can play while they wait for the codex, also lets them provide rules for models that they don't make.

Which is genius, because it means that if you had one of those models and were just waiting for the codex, you just got punked by GW and now have to buy the Index to get rules for one or two models in your collection. I don't know how chapter approved factors into this, but you're probably going to have to buy that too.

Which means that they're simultaneously pissing off their fans and welcoming another chapterhouse incident because they don't make the models they're providing rules for. People spout this "Nu GW" meme from time to time, but this is the GW I know and love.

Skullbone
Skullbone

@Harmless_Venom

GW wants their copyright even to what they're putting back on the shelf, and is highly unwilling to pull a model from the line save anything but a hard setting reboot. They're too burned by what happened with the AoS relaunch.

Would be nice if they had the guts to empty their legacy models finally, though it seems their MO is just to keep them in perpetuity until a replacement is made or it becomes untenable.

BunnyJinx
BunnyJinx

@Inmate
Huh cool had never seen that little bit about the pict feed and though it was a soft nudge since primarchs are coming back left and right.
@haveahappyday
@LuckyDusty
I'm not saying I want him alive just curious calm down pal.

Nude_Bikergirl
Nude_Bikergirl

@Harmless_Venom
Didn't Eldrad get killed off after some campaign or other, but is still kicking around because reasons?

Only character I remember getting dropped from the rules due to being killed off was that Dark Angel veteran sergeant who got blown up by an ork dread. Hell, Tycho of the Blood Angels got killed off but gets two unit profiles for his troubles.

Garbage Can Lid
Garbage Can Lid

@BunnyJinx
I'm not saying I want him alive just curious calm down pal.

I am calm. The answer is still no.

Methnerd
Methnerd

So has anyone read the CSM book? Can you summarize the background advancement? Or is the only real movement in the timeline pages?

Skullbone
Skullbone

@BinaryMan
Not an Ork player (Eldar) but I'd be hyped as fuck for that.

Burnblaze
Burnblaze

@BunnyJinx
had never seen that little bit about the pict feed

The pict feed cutting off as she lunges has always been part of the fluff (or at least, it was definitely in the Index Astartes article in White Dwarf about NIght Haunter and the VIIIth legion). Curze has always been presented as being killed, but the fate of M'Shen was left ambiguous until the Night Lord trilogy.

Emberburn
Emberburn

@Burnblaze
Night Lord trilogy probably isnt canon and there was never confirmation he was just assumed dead. They purposely left it open until ADB shat on it.

Emberfire
Emberfire

@kizzmybutt
most notably the removal of rifleman dreads

Oh wow, hadn't even heard that was a thing. They really are going about this in the most clusterfuck way imaginable.

VisualMaster
VisualMaster

If you take a relic, do you pay the cost of the weapon it replaces?

DeathDog
DeathDog

@Burnblaze
Nice I like the fact that he is such a vindictive cunt he let him self die as an insult.

eGremlin
eGremlin

@Nude_Bikergirl

Eldrad was killed in the 13th Black Crusade campaign, which was basically never mentioned again when the setting was set two-minutes-to-midnight at the 13th Black Crusade, and I guess retconned by the events of Gathering Storm.

PurpleCharger
PurpleCharger

@ZeroReborn
like Kell and ??

Stupidasole
Stupidasole

@Emberburn
REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

Supergrass
Supergrass

@Methshot
http://natfka.blogspot.com/2017/08/astra-militarum-steel-legion-release.html

Also the Skull-Aqulia teaser video with "steel" sfx fits the steel legion look perfectly.

Need_TLC
Need_TLC

@VisualMaster

I suppose you have to have that weapon first, so you pay the base cost and then replace it with the Relic's profile as your relic.

Booteefool
Booteefool

So I've seen a lot of people using the quote from BL that books are and aren't canon at the same time as justification to ignore fluff they hate or just goes against their headcanon narrative
So I ask you guys, what does it take for something to become unquestionably integrated into the canon?

Harmless_Venom
Harmless_Venom

@Supergrass

Pretty sure that one was Forge World, as it seemed to be tied into that.

King_Martha
King_Martha

@Need_TLC
That's what I thought. Cheers.

Soft_member
Soft_member

@AwesomeTucker
The thing that bothers me the most about this is, they said you can still take steeds with the Index, but on friday when someone asked Robin why dont they get Legion rules he responded "They can, just use the index." Even after someone specifically stated they are cavalry and cant.

askme
askme

@Booteefool
If it's published, it's canon until officially retconned or redacted by a piece of publication that's post-release date of the original publications.

hairygrape
hairygrape

@Supergrass
tfw it took you 3 watches to realize that was a skull Aquila
but you came when you finally did

Playboyize
Playboyize

@Nude_Bikergirl
Eldrad died during the 13th black crusade but it was retconned in gathering storm ( because gathering storm 1 doesn't feature eldar fleets, let alone having the blackstone fortress possessed by Slaanesh him/herself.

Additionally in Gathering Storm 1 we see an Ulthwe strikeforce lead by Eldrad himself rescue the fleeing cawl and his allies.

Deadlyinx
Deadlyinx

@Supergrass
watch it just be about Forge World's titanicus game

Techpill
Techpill

@Booteefool

There's just some bad BL books out there, user. Some bad, bad BL books...

TreeEater
TreeEater

True or False

From CSM Codex pg156:
Chaos Space Marine Detachment is therefore one which ONLY INCLUDES UNITS WITH ONE OF THESE KEYWORDS.
If your army is Battle-forged, all Troops units in Chaos Space Marine Detachments gain this ability. Such a unit that is within range of an objective marker controls it...

Translation to fucking English:
I can have Patrol Detachment:
HQ [World Eater] Prince
Troop [Word Bearer] Cultist

My Cultists are "CSM Detachment" and get Obsec.

Because it does not say: "Chaos Space Marine Detachment is therefore one WHICH INCLUDES UNITS WITH ONLY ONE OF THESE KEYWORDS."

Carnalpleasure
Carnalpleasure

@askme
This. Why is that so hard for people to grasp?

Snarelure
Snarelure

@Deadlyinx
I wouldn't even be mad.

TurtleCat
TurtleCat

@Carnalpleasure
They have agendas.

JunkTop
JunkTop

@askme
Fucking. This.

New_Cliche
New_Cliche

Is the Burning Blade relic good for anything besides being cheap?

Raving_Cute
Raving_Cute

@New_Cliche
You can make a Guilliman mini-me.

Sir_Gallonhead
Sir_Gallonhead

@New_Cliche
Fucking SHREDS armour. Give it to a high A salamanders character with +1S.

cum2soon
cum2soon

@CouchChiller
yep, I misread them as having one equipped already. sad now.

PackManBrainlure
PackManBrainlure

@New_Cliche
its the best weapon available for some of the characters that can only take a power sword. I wouldnt replace a mc sword with one, but for a company champ or primaris captain its a significant increase in cc damage.

RumChicken
RumChicken

@cum2soon

Gee, Battle-Brother Billy, by what providence has the Forge Master seen fit to gift you TWO of our finely honed Combat Blades?

DeathDog
DeathDog

@New_Cliche
Just take your free 3++ halve all damage taken upgrade. It's way the fuck better.

Nojokur
Nojokur

@BunnyJinx
Huh cool had never seen that little bit about the pict feed and though it was a soft nudge since primarchs are coming back left and right.

The bit in the codex is a straight copy-paste from the Index Astartes article from decades ago, not a new retcon implying Curze is coming back.

Illusionz
Illusionz

@askme
Yeah but we often get multiple editions going by with tons of publications providing information on events that leave out elements introduced in BL stories, what in those cases? The reason i call the M'Shen brought the head back story bullshit is because its a story that has been relayed multiple times since then (including in the most recent CSM codex) with no mention of that supposedly important detail.

Harmless_Venom
Harmless_Venom

@Emberburn
Night Lord trilogy probably isnt canon

What the fuck am I reading.

Spamalot
Spamalot

@DeathDog
free

Gotta pay for/have access to a storm shield

girlDog
girlDog

@askme
that makes too much sense
autistic screeching

w8t4u
w8t4u

Curze may not come back but they could always have a Demon Prince called the Night Haunter, maybe its Curze's darker personality manifested, maybe just a random space marine that simply took the moniker to unite his legion.

Bidwell
Bidwell

@VisualMaster
Yes. It explicitly says this in the artefacts section of the relevant codex in case anyone tries to argue the point with you.

Skullbone
Skullbone

Two more points away from the Imperium today.

BinaryMan
BinaryMan

@askme
I think the big complaint is someone subjectivity sees a writer, such as Matt ward or cruddence, as a sub par lore author, or worse, someone who plays favoritism in the fluff, so it's hard for people to agree that everything that's written when that means they have to agree Kaldor Draigo fought off two daemon primarchs with one hand while masturbating
And that's not even getting started on the muh old nostalgia lore!!! Fags

Ignoramus
Ignoramus

A question.

"This unit contains 1 Intercessor Sergeant and 4 Intercessors...Each model is
armed with a bolt rifle, bolt pistol, frag grenades and krak grenades...The Intercessor Sergeant may take a power sword."

Does he keep the Bolt Rifle?

Illusionz
Illusionz

@RumChicken
kek, have a Sister for your bantz

Dreamworx
Dreamworx

@TreeEater
False. Athough it may need a FAQ to clear up the slightly ambiguous "one of these". GW has been regularly squishing all these keyword wordplay tricks in 8th.

Nude_Bikergirl
Nude_Bikergirl

@Ignoramus
Yes.

Sir_Gallonhead
Sir_Gallonhead

@Nude_Bikergirl
And can he also take the Auxiliary Grenade Launcher?

King_Martha
King_Martha

@Soft_member
I think if whoever you're playing doesn't kick up a stink about you taking a unit from the Index that isn't in the Codex, he probably isn't going to complain about you applying Legion rules to a Lord on a steed (because having "Legion rules apply to Infantry, Bikers, Helbrutes... and cavalry" in the codex wouldn't make sense since there are no cavalry units in the codex). The whole thing is just a massive hodgepodge of rules at this point, because GW have done things in such an asinine way for nebulous legal reasons.

Evil_kitten
Evil_kitten

@Sir_Gallonhead
yep

viagrandad
viagrandad

@Sir_Gallonhead
Yes.

5mileys
5mileys

@Illusionz
Post more lood sisters pls

massdebater
massdebater

@Booteefool
what does it take for something to become unquestionably integrated into the canon

When it becomes a meme.
I AM ALPHARIUS

kizzmybutt
kizzmybutt

I'm having some pretty hard times with the CSM epub, the text is all jumbled up. Are we waiting on a better copy or something?

hairygrape
hairygrape

@Evil_kitten
@viagrandad
Jesus christ.
Neat.

Poker_Star
Poker_Star

I missed the catalogue but do recasters have the night lord heresy heads on catalogue?

TreeEater
TreeEater

@Spamalot
If the relic is strictly better than something you're already taking it's free. There isn't even a strong opportunity cost since it's so good. If you don't like storm shields the relic artificer armor is also good.

If you aren't giving your captains 3++ or a 2+ save I mean okay you do you. But you were asking if the burning blade was good and the answer is: "No, because other things are better." Remember that AP-5 looks good on paper until you realize that apart from land raiders, almost everything with 2+ in melee has a ++ save which negates 1 or more of that AP.

ZeroReborn
ZeroReborn

@kizzmybutt
Try opening it in Readium. The heading formatting is still off, but the rest of it's fine.

StrangeWizard
StrangeWizard

@5mileys
Can we get more sisters yuri/futa?
or both?

New_Cliche
New_Cliche

@TreeEater
In that scenario your cultists would have ObSec, because you have a battleforged list, but no-one in the detachment would benefit from legion traits due to not all being from the same legion (although you could still apply their respective legion stratagems or artefacts).

Unless I've misunderstood what you're asking?

Dreamworx
Dreamworx

@StrangeWizard
DO WANT

Fried_Sushi
Fried_Sushi

@TreeEater
I think that's a long rant response to "yeah but what about guys who can't take storm shields"

lostmypassword
lostmypassword

@5mileys
Sisters are for wifeing not lewding

hairygrape
hairygrape

@Soft_member
The 66th Chapter
OH FOR FUCK SAKE

TreeEater
TreeEater

@StrangeWizard
I don't think I've ever seen any Sisters futa. Kinda surprising.

Emberburn
Emberburn

Am I missing something or are there no major point changes in the new GK codex?

Also codex blatantly says GKs are made with the emperors geneseed, it's not even implied anymore

Emberfire
Emberfire

@lostmypassword
I won't say no to wife material sisters either...

LuckyDusty
LuckyDusty

@Soft_member
age of Warding

DeathDog
DeathDog

@hairygrape
This isnt new knowledge. Have you been living under a rock?

TechHater
TechHater

@hairygrape

They've been the 666th chapter since their inception in 2nd edition

Stupidasole
Stupidasole

@TreeEater
tfw no bull futa SoB to bully you with her cock and fuck your GF

haveahappyday
haveahappyday

@TreeEater
Because they wouldn't be Sisters anymore

idontknow
idontknow

@Boy_vs_Girl
Something is wrong here.

likme
likme

@Illusionz
The reason i call the M'Shen brought the head back story bullshit is because its a story that has been relayed multiple times since then (including in the most recent CSM codex) with no mention of that supposedly important detail.

And the Alpha Legion section doesn't make any mention of the Cabal, John Grammaticus or any of the events of Legion (although it confirms they had twin primarchs) and says they defected because Horus was more worthy of respect than the Emperor. The codex dedicate about four pages per legion - it isn't going to include every detail of every BL book relating to the legions.

Poker_Star
Poker_Star

@Soft_member
age of warding

Is that why the ultramarines are being shilled again as the BEST OF THE BEST?

Methshot
Methshot

@5mileys
Isn't this heresy, though, battle brother?

LuckyDusty
LuckyDusty

@Stupidasole
infiltrates behind you
Pshh, nothin personal kid

PurpleCharger
PurpleCharger

@LuckyDusty
infil-traitors behind you

ftfy

GoogleCat
GoogleCat

@Methshot
Only if the Sister Superior catches you.

Raving_Cute
Raving_Cute

@Emberburn
Also codex blatantly says GKs are made with the emperors geneseed, it's not even implied anymore

I think one of the BL books (Pandorax maybe) confirmed it a while back.

Garbage Can Lid
Garbage Can Lid

@Nojokur
Translation?

Burnblaze
Burnblaze

@5mileys
Yesterday was macha, today is sisters, good times
Side note are there any trap sisters?

LuckyDusty
LuckyDusty

@Burnblaze
>Trap Sisters
VERY WANT

Harmless_Venom
Harmless_Venom

@happy_sad
Take a 20-man strong squad of Berserkers
Infiltrate them 9" away from the enemy
Move them 6"
3" charge with rerolls due to Icon of Wrath
Let's give them all chainswords because why not.
2 attacks each, Champion gets 3. Add +1 to all of them.
61 attacks in total
Assuming anything is left alive, another 61 Attacks
At the end of the fight phase, whatever you charged is still alive somehow.
Spend 3 command points.
Fury of Khorne, an extra 61 attacks.

4CP for 183 Str5, WS3+ attacks
And then 6+ to-hits generate additional attacks if fighting the Imperium

While I'm sure it's not an optimal use of 4CP, my sides are in orbit.

askme
askme

For god sake share bloody Black legion novel by ADB.

massdebater
massdebater

@Harmless_Venom
Total results, 3 unsaved wounds vs anything that wouldn't have died in the first string of attacks. You'd be a lot better off taking chainaxe+chainsword

Poker_Star
Poker_Star

@Harmless_Venom
Infiltrate happens at the end of the movement phase. Infiltrated units can't move, just shoot and charge.

Snarelure
Snarelure

@Burnblaze
virgin slanneshi whore
Chad sister gf

VisualMaster
VisualMaster

How do I base my minis? I wanna do snow but I dont want it to look ass

AwesomeTucker
AwesomeTucker

@VisualMaster

Do snow, but like, don't make it look like ass.

Raving_Cute
Raving_Cute

@5mileys
Everyone knows shota sisters are the best and most emperor approved

Boy_vs_Girl
Boy_vs_Girl

Epubs failing to work for anyone else? Got them transferred to my ipad like any other ePub and all I get is "could not open required resource is missing"

King_Martha
King_Martha

@Poker_Star
It does not. The rule states it happens before the first turn at the beginning of the battle phase.

Spamalot
Spamalot

@Poker_Star
No, with the strat it's pre-game. As is it sucks dick cause RAW you can infiltrate dreads apparently, which a dude has been using to put leviathans up front turn 1. Feels bad

While I'm moaning, is that correct? Does SM one allow dreads, or is it just infantry? cause I'll shove it in his shiteating face if he's been cheating

farquit
farquit

@VisualMaster
White to light blue base coat, then slap on some Valhallan Blizzard.

idontknow
idontknow

@Raving_Cute
Lord have mercy~

Deadlyinx
Deadlyinx

@Spamalot
If you're talking about the Raven Guard strategem, it only works on <Raven Guard> <Infantry>.

A dreadnought is not infantry.

Snarelure
Snarelure

@Stark_Naked

I thought CSM had drop-pods that were more advanced than the current SM drop-pods, but were possessed?

Yes, they also have access to super sonic strike craft, tons of daemon engines, special tanks which have CCW and eat people to heal wounds, non line of sight artillery on a tank and on a dreadnought, and access to unique and powerful weapons like the butcher cannon, storm laser and the various soul burner weapons.

Too bad all that sweet flavor and fluffy unique weapons are only available through FW, which a lot of players don't have and which different gaming groups will look down upon you for using because "FW is WAAC P2WIN shit".

So your either stuck with the codex which is pretty bare as far as unique options go, or pay the eye and a testicle to get cool shit from FW and be resented

Firespawn
Firespawn

@VisualMaster
Mourn mountain is good to just apply alone, if you wanna get creative mixing it by putting down a dirt baser across most of the base and adding in Valhallan blizzard looks awesome.

SniperGod
SniperGod

@Raving_Cute
when flamers and heavy bolters got buffed this edition

TalkBomber
TalkBomber

@Deadlyinx
How about the alpha legion one

SniperWish
SniperWish

Anyone have a PDF of the booklet that came with Know No Fear? I have the Bloat Drone but I'm missing the instructions for building him...

FastChef
FastChef

Ey ya gits, I wanna try out 10 Nobs, 1 with PK, 9 with Power Stabbas, A normal Warboss, and a WAAAGH! Banner nob in a ard case battlewagon with deffrolla. My only concern is that is combo is a hefty 599 points, and I want to you know if anyone has tried something similar, and if this is worth the investment?
If no, whats the ideal way to run nobs? They seem great this edition compared to in 7th

JunkTop
JunkTop

Making a new thread, someone post a good sister lewd for me to use as the OP imagine

GoogleCat
GoogleCat

@Deadlyinx
Well now I'm pissed. That thing killed a fuckload of my stuff. Thanks user, I shoulda called him on it

Dreamworx
Dreamworx

@massdebater
By my math that's 9 Unsaved Wounds on MEQ per Fight, up to 3 fights, assuming no losses on overwatch.

18 on GEQ and 4 1/2 on TEQ (So 2 dead termies).

happy_sad
happy_sad

@TalkBomber
Infantry only as well.

haveahappyday
haveahappyday

@TalkBomber
Also only <Alpha Legion> <Infantry>. That said, Khorne Berserkers have the <Legion> Tag, so they can be <Alpha Legion>.

Inmate
Inmate

@SniperGod

Flamers buffed
Literally not worth taking on a model that can also take a stormbolter

lostmypassword
lostmypassword

@Emberburn
The closest I can find is that we somehow pay almost twice the cost for the twin plasma on the stormraven

Deadlyinx
Deadlyinx

@Dreamworx
against anything that would have survived the first round
You bring the chainaxes for stuff that would survive otherwise, the chainswords (and your normal attacks) will clean up anything that you don't need the axes on.

TreeEater
TreeEater

/tg/thread/54847166#p54847166
/tg/thread/54847166#p54847166

Keep it pure
/tg/thread/54847166#p54847166
Friendly reminder sisters are not required to be chaste in canon

RumChicken
RumChicken

@lostmypassword
Now that's funny

Even though there's barely anything new, I think the warlord traits, relics and the psybolt+invul stratagems are pretty solid buffs to an already pretty good army

ZeroReborn
ZeroReborn

New thread ?

Also is repressor dominion spam unbeatable ?+ celestine and a few manticores, earthshakers and a single conscript blob.

I'm 18-0 with another 5 "draws" in casual tac games

Got second place in tournament undefeated
At least 70% of my army is sisters.

Are they op now ?

StrangeWizard
StrangeWizard

@TreeEater
No thanks, fuck off retard
Good new thread here
/tg/thread/54847210#p54847210
/tg/thread/54847210#p54847210
/tg/thread/54847210#p54847210

Ignoramus
Ignoramus

@Boy_vs_Girl
EMPEROR BE PRAISED <3

Stark_Naked
Stark_Naked

Considering doing alpha legion, but I kind if don't see the point if their stratagem when regular deep striking is so good now.

viagrandad
viagrandad

@askme
https://sendit.cloud/hnxk9u79l70p
Here

takes2long
takes2long

@Deadlyinx
Yeah I just checked the math and Chainaxes are ever-so-slightly better, and for only 1 point each you're not gimping yourself taking them.

Though it's no dice-avalanche shock factor.

idontknow
idontknow

@StrangeWizard
Too slow kid

lostmypassword
lostmypassword

@StrangeWizard
Too late, get purged

Skullbone
Skullbone

@TreeEater
@StrangeWizard
Why are Sisterfags so terrible?

Flameblow
Flameblow

@FastChef
Not entirely similar...

two 5man mob squads with scorchas in a killtank. Mek + bannernob

RIP N TEAR

RavySnake
RavySnake

@Burnblaze
Why most sister fags always make me want fetish squat? Loli sisters, traps sister, neko sister, good to know they don't make plastic sisters.

LuckyDusty
LuckyDusty

@Stark_Naked
Alpha Legion's Strategem turns risky 9" charges into almost guaranteed charges. Additionally, they impose -1 to hit from enemies more than 12" away.

Plus you are forcing the enemy to kill all your characters to get Slay the Warlord.

RumChicken
RumChicken

@New_Cliche
I don't think you misunderstood the question. I read it the same way as you, although I expect some people may say it means all in one detachment have to share [legion] to get obsec.

The usage / placement of the word "only" in that sentence pisses me off.

Fuzzy_Logic
Fuzzy_Logic

@Lord_Tryzalot
Can I ask what caused this?

happy_sad
happy_sad

@Dreamworx
I would say "true." I can see how you read it that way. It's the placement of the word "only" in that definition. Hope this doesn't become an issue =(

kizzmybutt
kizzmybutt

@LuckyDusty
Right. Fir some reason I'm retarded and thought they couldn't move just like regular deep strikers. Thanks

Supergrass
Supergrass

Remember that time the Tyranids were about to finally accomplished something significant, defeating the blood angles, and GW had spent weeks building up the significance of the great rift and how no one could cross it, ONLY FOR THE ULTRAMARINES TO CROSS IT, LITERALLY ARRIVE OUT OF NOWHERE, AND SAVE THE BLOOD ANGELS WITH THE HELP OF A FUCKING CHAOS DAEMON?

I do, and I'm still pissed.

girlDog
girlDog

@Supergrass
You're actually retarded if you think the Blood Angels would ever lose.

Need_TLC
Need_TLC

@Nojokur
Neato I kinda figured after the whole head in a bag thing. Any other crowning achievements of the night lords?

happy_sad
happy_sad

@girlDog
Didn't think they'd be wiped out of existence, but for the ultramarines to literally to break all of the rules gw made in the past couple months, and nearly wipe out the greatest hive fleet ever with the help of a chaos daemon is fucking ridiculous. Teleport them elsewhere or some shit, even "Warpstorms, fuck you," would've made more sense.

askme
askme

@girlDog
At least diminished greatly and not saved by the blue sues though man. The indominus crusade was a mistake.

iluvmen
iluvmen

@askme
The BA's casualties don't even matter, though, because of Primaris marines. Leviathan just lost its largest tendril for no reason.

CouchChiller
CouchChiller

Hows my fluffy Black Templar list Veeky Forums?

Battalion Detachment

HQ's:
1. Chaplain Grimaldus - 127
2. Emperor's Champion - 75
3. Lieutenant w/ Power Sword and Plasma Pistol - 71

Troops:
1. Crusader Squad w/ Bolt Pistol and Chain Swords+ Power Axe and Sword - 139
2. Crusader Squad w/ Bolt Pistol and Chain Swords+ Power Axe and Sword - 139
3. Crusader Squad w/ Bolt Pistol and Chain Swords+ Power Axe and Sword - 139
4. Crusader Squad w/ Bolt Pistol and Chain Swords+ Power Axe and Sword - 139

Heavy Support:
1. Land Raider Crusader w/ Twin Assault Cannon, 2 Hurricane Bolters, and Multi-Melta - 314

Elites:
1. Cenobyte Servitors - 6
2. Vanguard Veteran Squad w/ Jump Packs, Melta Bomb,Power Swords, and Storm Shield +Relic Blade- 157
3. Vanguard Veteran Squad w/ Power Swords, Melta Bomb, and Storm Shields +Relic Blade- 147
4. Assault Terminator Squad w/ Storm Shields and Thunder Hammers+ Teleport Homer -260

Transports:
1. Drop Pod - 95 w/ Storm Bolter
2. Drop Pod - 95 w/ Storm Bolter
3. Drop Pod - 95 w/ Storm Bolter

Total: 1998

idontknow
idontknow

@CouchChiller
Seems like it's going to be pretty vicious!

Stupidasole
Stupidasole

Can stormtroopers ride in chimeras or do they have to take that tauris prime thingie?

Poker_Star
Poker_Star

@Stupidasole
They have the ASTRA MILITARUM keyword, so yeah.
Though Taroux Prime is way better

Soft_member
Soft_member

@massdebater
T6
T8

girlDog
girlDog

@WebTool
They didn't, the question in fact didn't mention the Index. But yeah, until a FAQ probits it you can still take them as Troops.

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