I think this guy did a thing once?

Evil_kitten
Evil_kitten

I think this guy did a thing once?

Deadlyinx
Deadlyinx

He was on Terra, which is much more than most other loyalist primarchs can say.

ZeroReborn
ZeroReborn

@Evil_kitten
did a thing once?
How rude, you shouldn't call your mom "a thing"

BunnyJinx
BunnyJinx

@Deadlyinx
They were busy taking the fight to the traitors, at least in Corax and Russ' case

Garbage Can Lid
Garbage Can Lid

@BunnyJinx
Not really relevant to the war at large in the end

Harmless_Venom
Harmless_Venom

@Evil_kitten
Being based is his one thing.

Carnalpleasure
Carnalpleasure

@Evil_kitten

Didn't Horus pretty much beg him to turn?

LuckyDusty
LuckyDusty

I think he's the one that rode motorcycles, but otherwise mostly just scowled

CodeBuns
CodeBuns

@Garbage Can Lid
tied up huge amounts of Horus' forces, keeping them spread out and occupied
not relevant
Real General Lee here lads

haveahappyday
haveahappyday

Morty shitter detected

Then you will not be persuaded. A shame. I invested much energy to save you, brother. I shall take no pleasure in your destruction
And there is the difference between you and me. By the time I make my kills, I am always laughing.

Skullbone
Skullbone

@CodeBuns
You mean the general that consistently killed more than he lost?
huge amounts

Most traitor legions still made it to terra and horus could even afford to not commit a whole legion to the assault and was still winning, and that's despite the emperor's children doing fuck all once they got on the surface

Flameblow
Flameblow

@haveahappyday
Khan was on the ropes in that fight though, was not one sided at all

TurtleCat
TurtleCat

@Carnalpleasure
Morty

CodeBuns
CodeBuns

@Skullbone
not understanding sarcasm
Nigga you have autism

Nojokur
Nojokur

@Flameblow
Because he had been several days on Prospero, while Morty was fresh.

And it was still a draw

5mileys
5mileys

@CodeBuns
I could say the same to you, user. How do you not understand a basic retort? Have our bants gone wasted?

CodeBuns
CodeBuns

@5mileys
not knowing what bantz is
Hey man dont worry, its cool tards can go on to live normal lives sometimes

Playboyize
Playboyize

@CodeBuns
immediately resorts to name calling

Low

Emberburn
Emberburn

@Skullbone
And those traitor legions that made it to terra were bloodied and split still because of Russ, Corax and the broken legions. Meanwhile rowboat and the loin were busy finger poppin each others assholes on Maccrage

ZeroReborn
ZeroReborn

@Emberburn
The point is that it still didn't make that much of a difference because little more than half of the traitor forces present were enough to win the siege

Supergrass
Supergrass

@ZeroReborn
Every man killed by Jaghatai or Corax was one minute more bought for Dorn and his boys

SomethingNew
SomethingNew

@Supergrass
That's for sure, but to be honest horus refraining to deploy his own legion and the EC wanking in a corner the whole time were much more helpful to the loyalists

Snarelure
Snarelure

@SomethingNew
Thats what Horus gets for relying on Fulgrims rabble

Deadlyinx
Deadlyinx

Meanwhile Perty carried the entire Heresy on his own while everyone else dicked around doing jack and shit.

Raving_Cute
Raving_Cute

@Deadlyinx
Too bad he's responsible for most of the losses in his own legion too

Sharpcharm
Sharpcharm

No, you're thinking of one of his brothers.

Bidwell
Bidwell

@Evil_kitten
Who?
topknot
Is that supposed to be abbadon???

StonedTime
StonedTime

@SomethingNew
What were the EC doing?

Illusionz
Illusionz

@StonedTime
Raping, pillaging and grounding down civilians into drugs.

Last part is canon btw

happy_sad
happy_sad

@Raving_Cute

DECIMATED

Lord_Tryzalot
Lord_Tryzalot

@Evil_kitten
Khan was the only primarch I would listen too.

He learned wisdom which is something that the other primarchs.

Heck alphalarius and omegon as well as khan are the only primarchs that typically do smart things

hairygrape
hairygrape

@Lord_Tryzalot
Heck alphalarius and omegon as well as khan are the only primarchs that typically do smart things
When will this meme end?

The only retard primarchs are Perturabo and Angron

farquit
farquit

@hairygrape
Dorn was too stubborn. Magnus tampered with the warp. Russ was headstrong. Cruze was literally insane. Lion was/wasn't loyal. Sanguinus was perfect(but hid his legions flaws). Lorgar was bad at listening. Etc

Fried_Sushi
Fried_Sushi

@farquit
Dorn was too stubborn
Doesn't make him non-smart, see Praetorian of Dorn and how he out-keikaku'd Alpharius
Magnus tampered with the warp
That makes him naive, not stupid
Russ was headstrong
Again, doesn't make him stupid
Curze was literally insane
Yet a guerilla genius
Lion was/wasn't loyal
He most assuredly was
lorgar is a retard
agreed

Nude_Bikergirl
Nude_Bikergirl

@StonedTime
A campaign of so much rape native terrans still dont trust astartes.

SomethingNew
SomethingNew

Best HH book coming through

likme
likme

@Lord_Tryzalot
There is only 1 primarch worthy of leadership

SomethingNew
SomethingNew

Are the Iron Hands such pricks because their primarch died first?

Garbage Can Lid
Garbage Can Lid

@ZeroReborn
Meh. He's a primarch, I'd let him do my mom.

Bidwell
Bidwell

@SomethingNew
No, the weirdest thing about them is that they were always pricks. Losing Ferrus only justified it a little.

Still gigantic irrelevant assholes though.

kizzmybutt
kizzmybutt

@SomethingNew
He has a lightning bolt head tattoo.

Firespawn
Firespawn

@Bidwell
Hey I collect Iron Hands. Be nice they are pretty cool and like machines.

PurpleCharger
PurpleCharger

@BunnyJinx
Russ literally spent the entire Heresy getting presented with binary choices, and repeatedly making the wrong ones.

Sir_Gallonhead
Sir_Gallonhead

@likme
Kek at Angron

haveahappyday
haveahappyday

@PurpleCharger
Hey Russ, can you stay on Terra and help man the defenses?
NO I MUST GO KILL HORUZ, AWHOOOOOOOO!!!!
gets bamboozled by alpha legion
fails to make it to terra on time
literally runs away into the depths of the imperial palace and cries like a bitch
let's That faggot lion stab him

Russ a shit

Emberfire
Emberfire

No

Fried_Sushi
Fried_Sushi

@haveahappyday
pretends to be retarded so hard his legion becomes more retarded to show him how cool they are
russ a shit

Need_TLC
Need_TLC

@Nude_Bikergirl
Wait, for real?
Even the Fisters?

PurpleCharger
PurpleCharger

@likme
sanguinius and angron once again confirmed two best primarchs

idontknow
idontknow

@likme
This chart is fucking retarded.

Spamalot
Spamalot

Friendly reminder that ADB retconned it so that Magnus destroying the webway project was more important than the entire Horus Heresy making the actions of every other primarch irrelevant
How can the manlets even compete?

hairygrape
hairygrape

@Flameblow
Khan was on the ropes in that fight though, was not one sided at all
Mortarion has to teleport away like a bitch, and Khan was about to land a killing blow. It wasn't one-sided, but the Khan won, because he was the one who didn't run away with his tail between his legs.

In Daemonology Morty is still mad that he got his ass handed to him by the Khan. So much so that he starts using sorcery. Hating sorcery was Mortarion's ENTIRE character.

SniperGod
SniperGod

@Lord_Tryzalot
Heck alphalarius and omegon as well as khan are the only primarchs that typically do smart things
"Hey man, we're the xenos you've been wrecking. You should trust us when we tell you that you have to destroy humanity to save the universe."
"HOKAY!"

Alpharius and Omegon were retarded. They weren't even just traitors to the Emperor, they were traitors to all of humanity.

BunnyJinx
BunnyJinx

@Emberfire
Struck down by Horus

CodeBuns
CodeBuns

@Spamalot
....Really? First I've heard that it was Yet Another oh-so-amazing ADB retcon.
If so, the fuck was the story before?

likme
likme

@CodeBuns
ADB in Master of Mankind just showed the Emps getting all emo about how his plan could no longer work and nothing else mattered after Magnus broke the webway project. Just a reminder that this was about a year before the Istvaan Massacre. So Chaos won everything forever before any of the characters we're actually invested in even got to do anything in the Heresy.

Gigastrength
Gigastrength

@CodeBuns
It was pretty much canon when Visions of Heresy was written in 2004 or '05.

Before that, we knew the Emperor had a secret project but not how important it was. There were already hints that it had to do with the webway so I assume the authors had it in mind for a long time. (But not in the fluff before 1991-2, when the Heresy story got a lot of its details, like the existence of Sanguinius).

Illusionz
Illusionz

@CodeBuns
Turns out the Emperor actually had a plan for humanity's future beyond shoot-all-the-things-with-all-the-bolters. Like, an ACTUAL plan with infrastructure and an eventual peace. It was dependent on some irreplaceable technology that Magnus destroyed when he was showing off.

For some reason finding this out made the fanboys absolutely fucking FURIOUS.

Methnerd
Methnerd

@Illusionz
Following this:

They're mad because 30k wasn't a call of duty style 'murder more guys and you win' situation. There were actual stakes beyond battle and once the webway was destroyed it could never be done again.

Evil_kitten
Evil_kitten

@Illusionz
For some reason finding this out made the fanboys absolutely fucking FURIOUS.
Because they changed what the Emperors plan was retard. Instead of it being giving humanity enough time to become ascended psykers it was cut off all of humanity from the warp. Which is retarded as humanity has souls making his entire plan useless. The webway isnt unbreakable either so its just fucking dumb overall.
Instead of the Webway Project being the next step in the great crusade BL hacks wrote it as the the most important part and who cares if that makes sense because give me notoriety.

w8t4u
w8t4u

@likme
AD has videos of his son on his youtube channel. Print them, cum on them, send them back along with a letter off how much you liked that Chaos is so awesome now and how you loved master of mankind.

Emberfire
Emberfire

@Illusionz
For some reason finding this out made the fanboys absolutely fucking FURIOUS.
Because it makes the entire Heresy an inconsequential afterthought?

Need_TLC
Need_TLC

@Emberfire
every time you post this, the emperor loses more faith in humanity for being compared to trump

Garbage Can Lid
Garbage Can Lid

@Evil_kitten
Fucked up the besiegers on Terra.

LuckyDusty
LuckyDusty

@Need_TLC
They are marines.

Illusionz
Illusionz

@Deadlyinx
Terra defenders will forever be the best loyalist legions.

Need_TLC
Need_TLC

@Emberfire
As opposed to the cash-grab prequel series to an already unchangeable future setting?

I don't understand what you're getting at. The Horus Heresy was never going to change anything. We know how it ends. We already have 40k.

LuckyDusty
LuckyDusty

@Methnerd
There were actual stakes beyond battle and once the webway was destroyed it could never be done again.
I always call horseshit on that, because there's a webway gate that works perfectly fine on the moon.

TechHater
TechHater

@Need_TLC
people like and want a thing, so it sells well when it is delivered
cash-grab

also
releasing a historical setting where the outcome is already known is the same as retconning the entire conflict to have been entirely pointless.

New_Cliche
New_Cliche

@LuckyDusty
There are functioning gates everywhere. The golden throne was supposed to be the steering wheel. Otherwise you need an Eldar to open and close the damn things.

Lord_Tryzalot
Lord_Tryzalot

@TechHater
Saying that the HH was pointless because Chaos is going to win eventually is like saying that WW2 was pointless because mankind will be extinct eventually. You are technically correct, but all the dead and all the survivors sure as fuck seem important in the mid to short term.

takes2long
takes2long

@New_Cliche
No, just some of the tech that the Eldar have. More like access codes, really, "tech" is the wrong word.

Poker_Star
Poker_Star

@Emberfire
I wonder what form of autism could make someone create a picture like that, and what it takes to repost it.

Burnblaze
Burnblaze

@takes2long
Given mankind's relationship with xenotech, you pretty much need an Eldar there with you.

VisualMaster
VisualMaster

@Lord_Tryzalot
Saying that the HH was pointless because Chaos is going to win eventually is like saying that WW2 was pointless because mankind will be extinct eventually
entropy wasn't a faction in WW2
The retcon was like introducing like that the germans all had super aids and the Hitler, the Wehrmacht and SS would all have died 1945 anyway.

A conflict is interesting when both chances have a realistic chance of success. The germans could have won. Horus could have won.
Invalidating that by saying 'AKSHUALLY MANKIND ALREADY LOST, CHAOS FTW' removes the stakes for the conflict entirely. So what if Horus hadn't rebelled or been killed on Isstvaan? Great plan is game over and Drachnyen will kill emps anyway, why does chaos bother to anything anymore? Sit back, wait for the inevitable emp kill and fuck daemonettes on the warp.

eGremlin
eGremlin

@Burnblaze
you pretty much need an Eldar there with you.
You say that like other people races have never gotten into the webway before? You know apart from Necrons, Orks, Space Marines, Admech, Ahriman and Daemons whenever they please.

King_Martha
King_Martha

@eGremlin
That's fair I suppose. This setting is a mess.

WebTool
WebTool

@eGremlin
Admech don't just get into the webway, they actively go in and to Comorragh to trade for tech to fix the Golden Throne at least once.

FastChef
FastChef

@VisualMaster
would have all died in 1945 anyway.

Right. Ten thousand years later and chaos still hasn't won is exactly like all the Nazis instantly dropping dead.

Look dude, you want to hate the thing, hate the thing. I like it. I think it's fitting that the project the Emperor quit crusading to work on was the most important thing ever. Anything less than that and it wouldn't make sense that he left to do it.

JunkTop
JunkTop

@eGremlin
@King_Martha
@WebTool
Ordo Xenos is fairly familiar with xenotech.

SomethingNew
SomethingNew

@JunkTop
Ordo Xenos is a space marine chapter that is only called together when there is a specific task to do, and a bunch of singular inquisitors each doing their own thing. The inquisitorial Ordos BARELY have a structure. They'd be the worst space-traffic-controllers ever.

Gigastrength
Gigastrength

@SomethingNew
Ordo Xenos is a space marine chapter that is only called together when there is a specific task to do, and a bunch of singular inquisitors each doing their own thing.

SniperWish
SniperWish

@Gigastrength
Yes. That is a solid chunk of what I said.

BlogWobbles
BlogWobbles

@FastChef
Ten thousand years later and chaos still hasn't won is exactly like all the Nazis instantly dropping dead.
When the timescale of your setting is skewed towards that point ten thousand years later, it is.

I think it's fitting that the project the Emperor quit crusading to work on was the most important thing ever
Sure, but outright destroying it AND saying there's no way to replace or repair it AND having the emperor himself stating that this is 'gg everybody go home' is overdoing it. Because now there's literally no point to the conflict anymore. Why should the Imperium continue fighting, they've lost and will never win. Why does Chaos bother? They don't perceive time anyway, Chaos literally has no reason to continue fighting anymore (besides Khorne).
The webway project itself never was the problem, the problem is that it was literally Mankind's Only Hopeā„¢ alongside with revealing that there's a super special OC demon that hardcounters the emperor no matter what and can't die because demons are so awesome.

Honestly I just feel burned out by this shit. I used to play lots of demons, and where they used to be just horrible creatures fueled by mankinds darkest sides with clear goals now they're more like children playing an MMO to kill time. They can't be perma-killed, they don't need to achieve anything anymore, there's no one as powerful as them, it's fucking ridiculous. Killed any interesting parts of the faction.

VisualMaster
VisualMaster

@SniperWish
You don't see anything wrong with what you said?

PurpleCharger
PurpleCharger

@VisualMaster
No. I don't. Please point out the bit where I was wrong.

Spazyfool
Spazyfool

@PurpleCharger
Ordo Xenos is a space marine chapter

farquit
farquit

@Spazyfool
The Deathwatch, you fucking moron. there are commas in that paragraph. Learn to read.

likme
likme

@farquit
There were no comments in that section of the paragraph
Deathwatch don't even work for the =][= in the newest lore.

Poker_Star
Poker_Star

@BlogWobbles
Why should the Imperium continue fighting, they've lost and will never win.
Why shouldn't you just off yourself. You're going to die eventually and you'll never 'win' in a capitalist society.

Because survival is a thing? And generally people want to squeeze as many years as possible out of life, even if their life blows.

Snarelure
Snarelure

@likme
newest lore

Ah. That is my bad, then. I apologize. I was going from the old deathwatch lore and my foul language was uncalled for.

SniperGod
SniperGod

@Evil_kitten
It's funny how everything has to be a popularity contest. And how having more fans is equivalent to beeing more competent.
That is the reason why Ultramarines are the best, right?

The problem with the primarchs is that most of them are either competend in a very specific thing and just as flawed (almost all the traitor primarchs, Lion beeing basically autistic, etc) or more reasonable but less noticeable at the same time.
Jaghatai is very similar to Vulcan, Corax or even Roboute in this regard. They don't have characteristics that are so interesting on their own that many people want to write about them.
And having less material overall writen about them makes them even less interesting.

Based on the fluff itself the Kahn is one of the more competent and reliable primarchs. He just get's the job done where others make a big fuss about it. Killing most of the inhabitance or making a big deal out of their strategie for example.
What makes him a less interesting primarch then the space vikings or the crazy wizzards. Russ and Angron already having the savage aspect with them and beeing more extreme makes it even harder to care for Kahn.

CouchChiller
CouchChiller

@Snarelure
No problem breh.
The new lore is pretty stupid anyway seeing as even the new models are still covered in inquisition symbols.

BunnyJinx
BunnyJinx

@Poker_Star
Because in your false equivalency one side is an actual being driven by actual hedonism while the other side is a fictional organization written to provide a motivation for a wargame?
Are you literally this retarded?

Booteefool
Booteefool

@BunnyJinx
So now your argument is that fictional factions should be omniscient and KNOW that they can't win, and just give up? And that would make the narrative...

...better?

farquit
farquit

@Booteefool
no, my argument is that playing a faction that can literally not succeed, or one that can literally not fail to succeed is not compelling, and in the context of a wargame constitutes shitty writing.

Inmate
Inmate

@BlogWobbles
Why should the Imperium continue fighting, they've lost and will never win.
Why should any of the 40k factions that aren't Chaos keep fighting?

Because they don't know Chaos is going to win, because they haven't read the novels from a god's-eye-view and as far as they know, they still COULD win?

Are you really this bitter about this?

Snarelure
Snarelure

@farquit
But Chaos can't win either, because that would be the end of 40k, and GW will never kill their cash cow. So we're back to the age-old stalemate.

Firespawn
Firespawn

@likme
Deathwatch don't even work for the =][= in the newest lore.

Retcons like this is part of the reason why i started my DEldar army.

eGremlin
eGremlin

@Inmate
@Snarelure
New user here.

The problem with anti-Chaosfags which I stated many times is ego. They self insert as their factions so the thought of them ultimately losing offends them personally. They do not see the poetic side of Chaos destroying the hypocritical and flawed Imperium. They don't respect the story of 40K and just care about how it personally makes them feel.

JunkTop
JunkTop

@Inmate
Because they don't know Chaos is going to win
Eldar and Imperium know, btw

Also, we know, and we actually play the damn game.

@Snarelure
But Chaos can't win either, because that would be the end of 40k, and GW will never kill their cash cow. So we're back to the age-old stalemate.
It's not a stalemate, though. Chaos has won, read MoM. Literally every victory for the Imperium is just prolonging the inevitable, there's no win condition for anyone but the Warp anymore. If you think that's compelling context for a wargame, be my guest, you retard.

Illusionz
Illusionz

@eGremlin
Hello new user. Your point is solid.

Crazy_Nice
Crazy_Nice

@eGremlin
They do not see the poetic side of Chaos destroying the hypocritical and flawed Imperium. They don't respect the story of 40K and just care about how it personally makes them feel.
Nigga I play daemons. With the retcons playing 40k from a lore standpoint is about as interesting as playing a game about the Khmer Rouge, where one player gets an army of armed fascists and the other gets a few unarmed intellectuals. The outcome is obvious, any variation in results literally don't matter because they will e rectified in the next battle, it utterly invalidates the results of every battle.

Harmless_Venom
Harmless_Venom

@JunkTop
If you think that's compelling context for a wargame
A thousand bastions of humanity trying to hold out for as long as possible against the dying of the light even though they know they can't win IS actually a solid setting idea. There doesn't have to be the potential for a happy ending to make a setting good.

Also you seem really mad.

Sir_Gallonhead
Sir_Gallonhead

@JunkTop
Eldar and Imperium know, btw

They do not. The Eldar cling to Ynnead as their hope of resurgence.

The vast majority of the Imperium do not know and simply fight to survive.

Also, we know, and we actually play the damn game.

see here @eGremlin

It's not a stalemate, though. Chaos has won, read MoM. Literally every victory for the Imperium is just prolonging the inevitable, there's no win condition for anyone but the Warp anymore. If you think that's compelling context for a wargame, be my guest, you retard.

The Emperor said that Chaos will win in the long run. It might take 100 years, 1000, or a million years butt hey will win. But that doesn't mean that people should give up and lay down and take it. That's what bitches do. The war against Chaos has no definite time-lapse , only a definite end. So you can set a wargame in it.

iluvmen
iluvmen

@eGremlin
See I got into the game and just went:
Wow, there are a dozen factions, so odds are mine won't win in the long run, but I'ma fuck some shit up before then.
And then I had fun. Because the goal isn't to win the setting, it's to play the goddamn game.

TreeEater
TreeEater

@eGremlin
New user
Poster number doesn't go up
top kek

@Harmless_Venom
A thousand bastions of humanity trying to hold out for as long as possible against the dying of the light even though they know they can't win IS actually a solid setting idea
It's tower defense.

There doesn't have to be the potential for a happy ending to make a setting good.
Imperium winning
happy ending
you don't get the point of 40k, do you?

Also you seem really mad.
Maybe because my army literally lost any motivation to go out and do stuff because they've already won and don't know time.

The war against Chaos has no definite time-lapse , only a definite end. So you can set a wargame in it.
The warp knows no time.

Firespawn
Firespawn

@TreeEater
you don't get the point of 40k, do you?
To have fun. The same point of any game. You're the one who is angry that he can't change a goddamn setting someone else wrote.

Flameblow
Flameblow

@Sir_Gallonhead
also, because of this line of thinking
But that doesn't mean that people should give up and lay down and take it
I'll start sending ADB cum tributes of his son
take my fucking setting back

TalkBomber
TalkBomber

@eGremlin
Unlike the Chaosfags amirite ?

LuckyDusty
LuckyDusty

@Firespawn
implying the setting isn't a main draw in 40k

StonedTime
StonedTime

@Crazy_Nice
The concept of 40K is the "Raging against the dying of the light". Seeing how long can people hold on against the tide of evil created by their own sins. Winning battles against the darkness and buying more time for your people is a valid and noble cause. The ultimate outcome is so far away into the future that you might as well cry about the heat death of the universe while at it.

And if you don't like that aspect of the setting, then you shouldn't play the darkness that's killing the light.

ZeroReborn
ZeroReborn

@StonedTime
enjoy your tower defense, pleb.

Nojokur
Nojokur

@LuckyDusty
That'd be the models, fucktard.

The setting is a distant second to the physical hobby. And I say that as someone who really enjoys the setting.

Booteefool
Booteefool

@TreeEater
top kek

Bitch, you better check again because this is my first post in the thread.

The warp knows no time.

Real S-pace does and we as players have all the time of the world to play our games. So there is no issue.

you don't get the point of 40k, do you?

Yes, the sins of man reflected upon himself turns out to be his undoing.

Maybe because my army literally lost any motivation to go out and do stuff because they've already won and don't know time.

Might as well suicide in real life because you cannot stop yourself from dying.

I mean FUCK. The Polish and French out of stubbornness fought losing wars against the invaders despite knowing they were never going to win. It's the principle of it.

@LuckyDusty
People who self insert as Chaos are equally in error as others that do. I never get why people think that other peoples achievement are a source of their personal pride.

MPmaster
MPmaster

@StonedTime
The concept of 40K is the "Raging against the dying of the light"
For the longest time it wasn't.
Raging against the dying of the light is a trope for bullied children and retards with daddy issues. It's pointless rebellion incarnate on the same level of lacking emotional maturity as these slaughterhouse mangas or the saw movies.

Spamalot
Spamalot

@Nojokur
Lies.

40K vidya games are really popular despite of most of /v/ not playing the TT. For example, Total Warhammer is the most successful Total War game in history.

haveahappyday
haveahappyday

@Booteefool
being an edgy turd
go do your chores, child.
Or, on the off chance that you're ADB, my letters should be there soon.

SomethingNew
SomethingNew

@MPmaster
Wow you're edgy. No wonder you play Daemons. All the other armies believe in something. I'm sure that offended you.

Playboyize
Playboyize

@haveahappyday
It's not edgy. It's knowing what the setting is about.

@MPmaster
For the longest time it wasn't.

False, newfag.

JunkTop
JunkTop

@Playboyize
So you mean the sins of a Wolf Lord on thunderwolf wielding a wolf claw reflect back in form of a lord of skulls with a gorestorm and daemongore cannon or as a malignant plaguecaster?

For the longest time it wasn't.
You started playing 40k after 5th edition, your opinion is invalid.

Snarelure
Snarelure

@hairygrape
Khan was desperate as fuck that fight

StrangeWizard
StrangeWizard

@PurpleCharger
Shouldn't you still be stuck in the warp, Magnus?

Nude_Bikergirl
Nude_Bikergirl

@Evil_kitten
Literally the least noteworthy legion

Ignoramus
Ignoramus

@Evil_kitten
Fulgr
He once burnerd Fulgrim so hard Vulkan was like DAYUUM, Cracker!
And without a flamer no less.

Evilember
Evilember

@StonedTime
@StonedTime
That's not the fucking concept. The point of the whole thing is that the Imperium is pretty much the worst sort of system humanity could live under and yet you STILL root for them. Root for them in their battle against scary aliens but also enemies created by their own reflections. It's a darkly comedic struggle. But ADB has made that struggle pointless. So why give a fuck if space nazi germany x100 holds out for a few more years now?

TreeEater
TreeEater

@Booteefool
@Playboyize

To be a man in such times is to be one amongst untold billions. It is to live in the cruelest and most bloody regime imaginable. These are the tales of those times. Forget the power of technology and science, for so much has been forgotten, never to be re-learned. Forget the promise of progress and understanding, for in the grim dark future there is only war. There is no peace amongst the stars, only *AN ETERNITY* of carnage and slaughter, and the laughter of thirsting gods.

Methnerd
Methnerd

@w8t4u
sent ;)

Harmless_Venom
Harmless_Venom

@SniperGod
Looking at it now, it seems that they "listened" to the Cabal, were they were trying to take the information that was given and figure out the third path. Going by what happened, Omegon picked humanity.

JunkTop
JunkTop

@TreeEater
*AN ETERNITY*

The battle against Chaos lasts an eternity, you j ackass. As it was revealed to Girlyman the war against stretches since the birth to the universe and onwards. Countless races were lost to Chaos already. Humanity's struggle with Chaos is but a small chapter in a saga that will continue until the end of the universe.

@Evilember
ADB did nothing but right what was on the tin of the setting. This war was never meant to be won. It's meant to be endured and suffered to the grimdark end.

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